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CmX
06-17-2009, 07:28 PM
His art got SO much better during Carey's run though. It's a shame Betsy missed out on that.

peopleofpaper
06-17-2009, 07:29 PM
i hated that dragon outfit, but i liked how he made her hand outfit have a big belt. it's like an asymmetrical mini skirt :) i also liked when he gave her little sailor moon meatballs on a couple covers randomly. i love her swoop bangs.
http://i39.tinypic.com/ixw4lt.png

Uncanny should have different hairstyles to differentiate with all the girls. it's hard to tell the blondes apart and all the women have long wavy styled hair which is pretty but too matchy.

CmX
06-17-2009, 07:34 PM
I LOVED the odangos on her head! Bachalo is so creative, but he instantly put her back in the hand outfit haha I wish he would have redesigned her something. I bet he would've given her something really cute.

Bachalo didn't design the HoM dragon outfit, Davis did BTW.

psycwave
06-17-2009, 07:39 PM
I didnt mind the Dragon outfit. thought it was a bit cliche' but hey it was good for what it was worth. OMG Bachalo's odango's Betsy was super fab. I would have loved to see a costume redesign by him. I can't wait to see Dodson's.

While talking about artists, who are your Top 5 artists for drawing Betsy.
Mine would have to be(In no particular order):
1. Silvestri
2. Jim Lee
3. Alan Davis
4. Joe Mad/Chris Bachalo
5. Arthur Adams


EDIT: David Beaty-the guy who did the Sword of Braddocks one shot-deserves an honorable mention. I demand he get more work. And Yardin, the rendition of Psylocke he did for comission was fantastic.

CmX
06-17-2009, 07:46 PM
Mine are....

Alan Davis
Bachalo
Lee
Larroca
Joe Mad

lockerogue
06-17-2009, 07:49 PM
I didnt mind the Dragon outfit. thought it was a bit cliche' but hey it was good for what it was worth. OMG Bachalo's odango's Betsy was super fab. I would have loved to see a costume redesign by him. I can't wait to see Dodson's.

While talking about artists, who are your Top 5 artists for drawing Betsy.
Mine would have to be(In no particular order):
1. Silvestri
2. Jim Lee
3. Alan Davis
4. Joe Mad/Chris Bachalo
5. Arthur Adams


EDIT: David Beaty-the guy who did the Sword of Braddocks one shot-deserves an honorable mention. I demand he get more work. And Yardin, the rendition of Psylocke he did for comission was fantastic.

Wow that is my exact list.

Daniel Mengsk
06-17-2009, 07:57 PM
I wonder why would anyone revisit that story. LOL Great find, Giles!

Because we haven't seen enough epic mental battles between Betsy and one of her evil selves? lol.

Yes, ditto, Giles!


:redface: Thanks! :redface: I live to serve.

It could also be some Danger Room(Cave?) scenario of some sort. Maybe?

lol. Betsy's so Weird Science it hurts. <3 <3

This made me laugh so hard, 'cause the first thing that came to my mind was; the Phoebe Cates scene from Fast Times at Ridgemont High!! I could hear the music starting to play in my head! :biggrin:

While talking about artists, who are your Top 5 artists for drawing Betsy.
Mine would have to be(In no particular order):
1. Silvestri
2. Jim Lee


To me:

Silvestri = British Betsy

Jim Lee = Asian Betsy

I also like Salvador Larrocas Asian Betsy, specially during the Dawn-mini; although at times, he can draw Betsy with to much muscles.

For both bodies = Alan Davis.

CmX
06-17-2009, 08:15 PM
I didn't like how he drew her during the Dawn mini, I think her body was too big she was almost the same physic as Warren. She was drawn perfectly by him during Xtreme IMO. I really like how Liquid! colored her hair it was lavender like British Betsy's.

Aguja
06-17-2009, 10:43 PM
That first image by Bachalo is beautiful.

I had no idea Larroca drew the Crimson Dawn Mini. His work looked so different back then.

I love Joe Mad's Betsy, although he could make her scary muscular sometimes too.

Justin K.
06-17-2009, 11:26 PM
While talking about artists, who are your Top 5 artists for drawing Betsy.

1. Silvestri
2. Bachalo
3. Maduieira
4. Lee
5. Davis

metalgorgomon
06-18-2009, 12:00 AM
I didnt mind the Dragon outfit. thought it was a bit cliche' but hey it was good for what it was worth. OMG Bachalo's odango's Betsy was super fab. I would have loved to see a costume redesign by him. I can't wait to see Dodson's.

While talking about artists, who are your Top 5 artists for drawing Betsy.
Mine would have to be(In no particular order):
1. Silvestri
2. Jim Lee
3. Alan Davis
4. Joe Mad/Chris Bachalo
5. Arthur Adams


EDIT: David Beaty-the guy who did the Sword of Braddocks one shot-deserves an honorable mention. I demand he get more work. And Yardin, the rendition of Psylocke he did for comission was fantastic.

I like the Dragon Outfit. It's one of my favorites.. Davis designed the costume but it was Bachalo who made it awesome..

My Top 5:
1. Jim Lee - Nobody draw Psylocke like Jim Lee.
2. Silvestri - Loved his Aussie Betsy. Can't wait to see his work in Utopia.
3. Chris Bachalo - There's something bout Bachalo's Betsy that is pure of win.
4. David Beaty - very very gorgeous Betsy. Already a favorite of mine.
5. Larocca - X-treme Betsy was awesome..

Askanipsion
06-18-2009, 05:15 AM
No no no!

So much for making Betsy simpler! She can now WHAT!!!!??

http://www.newsarama.com/php/multimedia/album_view.php?gid=1124&page=3

Selene
06-18-2009, 05:22 AM
No no no!

So much for making Betsy simpler! She can now WHAT!!!!??

http://www.newsarama.com/php/multimedia/album_view.php?gid=1124&page=3
I am sorry,but if she has both telepathic and telekinetic powers now,then Fraction complicated her.Somebody needs to fire Fraction(Alonso/Quesada)and save Betsy(Carey)!
Warren Worthington III--Angel wings:Wealth.Turn-ons:Betsy Braddock.Turn-offs:Science.
FINALLY,some good news! <3

Askanipsion
06-18-2009, 05:48 AM
I am sorry,but if she has both telepathic and telekinetic powers now,then Fraction complicated her.Somebody needs to fire Fraction(Alonso/Quesada)and save Betsy(Carey)!

FINALLY,some good news! <3

The thing is just give her telepathy not this offshoot of telepathy they are mentioning!!!

She kinda looks trashy in this issue too.

Daniel Mengsk
06-18-2009, 05:51 AM
Ahhh, Betsy: ..."since my...travels abroad"....only our girl Betsy can make travelling through the omniverse sound so utterly ordinary. :biggrin:

And dear God; Hank can't keep his greasy claws to himself, he practically drools every time that Betsy's in the room......okay, to be honest, I can't hold that against him, but no more touching Hank! Bad Hank, bad, bad ca...eh..Hank! :wink:

timbox
06-18-2009, 05:55 AM
Hopefully we get to see more of this in the upcoming issues of Uncanny:

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/5438/123gy6.jpg

fortyseven
06-18-2009, 06:00 AM
No no no!

So much for making Betsy simpler! She can now WHAT!!!!??

http://www.newsarama.com/php/multimedia/album_view.php?gid=1124&page=3

I'm actually pretty happy Betsy gets to have some degree of telepathy... even if it is illusion casting. Maybe we'll even get a butterfly-sig in the following pages. :biggrin: Either way, still looking forward to the issue!

Twisted Bliss
06-18-2009, 06:08 AM
I want Betsy to "suggest" Fraction take a long walk off a short pier.

Daniel Mengsk
06-18-2009, 06:10 AM
Hopefully we get to see more of this in the upcoming issues of Uncanny:

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/5438/123gy6.jpg

Betsy: Bad Hank, stay! I said stay!

:biggrin:

Bolebeau
06-18-2009, 06:18 AM
I'm actually pretty happy Betsy gets to have some degree of telepathy... even if it is illusion casting. Maybe we'll even get a butterfly-sig in the following pages. :biggrin: Either way, still looking forward to the issue!

Same here.

Betsy had telepathy for what, 25 years before Claremont suddenly gave her Jean's telekinesis? I'm more than happy with Betsy having some kind of telepathic ability. Was that swap during Revolution ever explained, by the way? I don't recall ever getting a reason WHY Betsy gained Jean's telekinesis and Jean gained Betsy's telepathy after Betsy was forced to shut down her telepathy a few years before that.

Daniel Mengsk
06-18-2009, 06:25 AM
Was that swap during Revolution ever explained, by the way? I don't recall ever getting a reason WHY Betsy gained Jean's telekinesis and Jean gained Betsy's telepathy after Betsy was forced to shut down her telepathy a few years before that.

Nope, no explanation, it was supposed to involve the Shadow King and stuff. Could have been a great story, maybe the power-swap would have been more accepted had we seen why it happened.

psycwave
06-18-2009, 06:52 AM
I wonder if Fraction got this ability to "suggest" things idea from "Silverfox" in the Wolverine: Origins movie.

Daniel Mengsk
06-18-2009, 06:58 AM
I wonder how strong her new ability is;

Psylocke: Professor, I suggest that you kill Emma.

Prof. X: Now, now Betsy, I'm the world most powerful telepath and...

Psylocke: I said; I suggest that you kill Emma!

Prof. X: Yes Mistress.

psycwave
06-18-2009, 07:03 AM
The low degree of tp has the potential to NOT be complicated. Back in UXM when CC brought her mind and he had her running around in her mind he showed the parts of her that were a telepath in shards, maybe those shards needed to be put back together and it is slowly returning. I mean a similar thing happened to Jean in Morrison's X-men didn't it. Her teke started to slowly return to compliment her tp.

Or of course we could tie all her powersets into her Otherworld heritage. Saying that because she is both Otherworlder and mutant her mutant genome is in a flux, changing, evolving, becoming something new and different. She could go to Otherworld to find the cause of the flux or get Merlyn to stop it or something.

Daniel Mengsk
06-18-2009, 07:06 AM
Come to think of it, doesn't Betsy now resemble Jean during her time in X-Factor? Uber-powerful teke with a low degree of telepathy?

Twisted Bliss
06-18-2009, 07:07 AM
I wonder how strong her new ability is;

Psylocke: Professor, I suggest that you kill Emma.

Prof. X: Now, now Betsy, I'm the world most powerful telepath and...

Psylocke: I said; I suggest that you kill Emma!

Prof. X: Yes Mistress.

I imagine that like most women her 'suggestions' become a lot stronger and a hell of a lot more forceful once a month.

The Sword Is Drawn
06-18-2009, 07:23 AM
No no no!

So much for making Betsy simpler! She can now WHAT!!!!??

http://www.newsarama.com/php/multimedia/album_view.php?gid=1124&page=3

So were now talking 'Psychic Suggestion'? Oh for God's sake. Marvel really do seem determined to totally write over Betsy Braddock in entirity. Just give her her telepathy back and get on with it.

jarrod
06-18-2009, 07:27 AM
Jesus fuck Fraction!

It's called Precog Flashes. Otherwise, don't bother...

darknessatnoon
06-18-2009, 07:31 AM
So were now talking 'Psychic Suggestion'? Oh for God's sake. Marvel really do seem determined to totally write over Betsy Braddock in entirity. Just give her her telepathy back and get on with it.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/parenting/images/300/baby_crying_closeup.jpg

Jesus fuck Fraction!

It's called Precog Flashes. Otherwise, don't bother...

http://net4baby.com/baby/images/stories/main/crying_baby.jpg

timbox
06-18-2009, 07:34 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/parenting/images/300/baby_crying_closeup.jpg



http://net4baby.com/baby/images/stories/main/crying_baby.jpg

http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs084.snc1/4896_198778470004_670400004_7238053_2987569_n.jpg

jarrod
06-18-2009, 07:35 AM
On the plus side, at least Betsy's not a house.

psycwave
06-18-2009, 07:40 AM
On the plus side, at least Betsy's not a house.

And appearing regularly:wink:

Bolebeau
06-18-2009, 07:43 AM
While we're on the subject of her ever fluctuating powers, what happened to her Crimson Dawn abilities? I think I'm in the minority, but I liked the colder, darker shadow-teleporting version of Betsy.

I'd rather have those abilities mysteriously returned than her telepathy, though that would probably count as complicating her (yet again) and lead to more...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/parenting/images/300/baby_crying_closeup.jpg



http://net4baby.com/baby/images/stories/main/crying_baby.jpg

...of that.

jarrod
06-18-2009, 07:46 AM
LOL NO!

NO CRIMSON DAWN. EVER.



I am very suddenly more than happy with "suggestion".

Azure
06-18-2009, 07:47 AM
Accept Matt Fraction into your hearts, Psylocke-fans.

psycwave
06-18-2009, 07:48 AM
LMAO STOP IT Bolebeau.

Bolebeau
06-18-2009, 07:51 AM
http://net4baby.com/baby/images/stories/main/crying_baby.jpg

http://www.bbc.co.uk/parenting/images/300/baby_crying_closeup.jpg

I knew it. xD

jarrod
06-18-2009, 08:09 AM
I knew it. xD

Are you Egyptian?

Bolebeau
06-18-2009, 08:11 AM
Are you Egyptian?

...I'm half German, is that close enough?

Novaya Havoc
06-18-2009, 08:12 AM
Accept Matt Fraction into your hearts, Psylocke-fans.

Matt Fraction is revolting. GTFO.

psycwave
06-18-2009, 08:12 AM
...I'm half German, is that close enough?

How od you feel about Burtsy?

Bolebeau
06-18-2009, 08:15 AM
Matt Fraction is revolting. GTFO.

You're like CBR's one-man anti-Fraction crusade. ♥

How od you feel about Burtsy?

Purple and blue do go well together.

psycwave
06-18-2009, 08:25 AM
Purple and blue do go well together.

<3<3<3(of course that excludes Beast)
Obviously Fraction didnt get the Burtsy memo.

Anon_me
06-18-2009, 08:38 AM
While we're on the subject of her ever fluctuating powers, what happened to her Crimson Dawn abilities? I think I'm in the minority, but I liked the colder, darker shadow-teleporting version of Betsy.

I'd rather have those abilities mysteriously returned than her telepathy, though that would probably count as complicating her (yet again) and lead to more...

I think they disappeared when she got her TK, despite that ugly ugly tattoo staying on.

Aguja
06-18-2009, 09:54 AM
I find her new powers confusing.

psycwave
06-18-2009, 09:56 AM
I find her new powers confusing.

Its because Matt Fraction is a troll.

Aguja
06-18-2009, 10:00 AM
Its because Matt Fraction is a troll.

LOL

I guess we'll have to wait for the issue to see. She better at least use it in 512. It seems like some type of psychic suggestion or illusion power???

Anon_me
06-18-2009, 11:14 AM
Sounds like she can prompt people to see or not see things to a slight degree; like she can suggest you see the redhead out of the corner of your eye across the street as a blonde or something like that; doesn't really look like anything too major.

cgar
06-18-2009, 11:20 AM
yah Fraction does some weird shit. But i really don't understand whats so confusing. I mean it stated on panel what she does. AND i dont think its bad. She had that ability before. Kind of. Suggesting things would be like the illusion casting she had during the Mandarin arc. So if she can be clever with her powers again that would be awesome. ITs NOT that bad you guys. and check it out one issue after that dreadful arc she has more lines then STORM. Seriously thats pretty good. and yah Sage is a house and she adores it. STFO
oh and she should totally become friends with Madison Jeffries. He's a stud.

Anon_me
06-18-2009, 11:22 AM
Betsy: Madison, I suggest you see me as the sentient coffee machine. Work your powers on me, baby.

psycwave
06-18-2009, 11:26 AM
OMG telekinetic illusion casting Betsy sounds HAWT!
I actually like the powers. And if it relates to Lady mandarin it automatically gets a +1 in my book.

Betsy would totally adore Madison's flannel shirts.

Anon_me
06-18-2009, 11:31 AM
From their dialogue, her new powers sound more like "Even though, I'm aiming for your right side, you will see me as aiming for your left" and less "You see me on your left even though I'm on your right" but who knows.

Betsy will take Madison's flannel shirts and do a Daisy Duke roleplaying session in the boudoir for him.

cgar
06-18-2009, 11:38 AM
From their dialogue, her new powers sound more like "Even though, I'm aiming for your right side, you will see me as aiming for your left" and less "You see me on your left even though I'm on your right" but who knows.
.

Which is fine with me. I like both of those ways you explained.

And Betsy doesnt need to suggest anything to the X-Club. Angel and Hank are already jocking her lol

Itll be Madison and Rao next

Anon_me
06-18-2009, 11:44 AM
She's already had Warren, she's going international starting with some Canadian bacon.

psycwave
06-18-2009, 11:44 AM
From their dialogue, her new powers sound more like "Even though, I'm aiming for your right side, you will see me as aiming for your left" and less "You see me on your left even though I'm on your right" but who knows.

Betsy will take Madison's flannel shirts and do a Daisy Duke roleplaying session in the boudoir for him.

I can actually live with either of those as well.

She needs to go back to blonde for Daisy if she wants to commit to the role.

KMar
06-18-2009, 12:29 PM
Betsy sure has her work cut out for her with this whole suggesting thing. I mean, she's going to have to "suggest" that a blue cat, a man with wings, an east indian, and two asian people fit in in San Francisco in 1906.

Anon_me
06-18-2009, 12:30 PM
Betsy sure has her work cut out for her with this whole suggesting thing. I mean, she's going to have to "suggest" that a blue cat, a man with wings, an east indian, and two asian people fit in in San Francisco in 1906.

Doesn't sound like it's that powerful; that's what image-inducers are for =p

Psychic Illusion
06-18-2009, 12:32 PM
Well, fraction gave back some degree to her telepathy. She is now a latent reborn telepath, but a high order telekenetic. Well, at least she isn't buttflossin', and her and warren are sharing scenes together. Now she have to interact more with her best friends storm and logan and share scenes with rogue, dazzler, laura, professor,kurt, and emma and I am ok for now.

Daniel Mengsk
06-18-2009, 01:03 PM
Accept Matt Fraction into your hearts, Psylocke-fans.

EDIT: Well, not to heart, but I'm starting to think that I've been to harsh in my comments about Matt Fraction.

I find her new powers confusing.

EDIT: In the end, it seems to be low-level tp.

Betsy sure has her work cut out for her with this whole suggesting thing. I mean, she's going to have to "suggest" that a blue cat, a man with wings, an east indian, and two asian people fit in in San Francisco in 1906.

Let's hope that Hank doesn't want to visit a theater, otherwise Betsy will have to do a lot of screaming. :smile:

CmX
06-18-2009, 01:28 PM
Eh I'll take it! And we'll see how it's used in this issue so we can go from there.

It's better than no telepathy so I'm cool with it so far. Psylocke looks great! And she has some lines lol I like the purple eye shadow.

Anon_me
06-18-2009, 01:31 PM
She needs to go back to blonde for Daisy if she wants to commit to the role.

That's where her new power comes in.

Daniel Mengsk
06-18-2009, 01:36 PM
Warren: "Watch your step. Don't slip all the nerd."

Betsy: "I kindly suggest that you take your hands off me, you creepy cradle robber!"

peopleofpaper
06-18-2009, 01:42 PM
I don't mind her having both but this story is freaking ridiculous. Let's just ignore that idiot Fraction because I can't deal with him right now. The story in general is so freaking boring. It's hard for me to keep my eyes open to read page after page of Beast and his boring dialog. I really hope Betsy isn't caught up in some stupid love triangle especially with that wet blanket Beast. I don't mind her powerset but what kind of an idiot is Beast thinking "hey I need a telepath to shield me... oh I know I'll get one that barely has any telepathy left instead of choosing the millions of telepaths that are written in Uncanny every other week". Marvel asks for questions and comments on their website and I suggested they get a new writer, I'd urge some of you to do the same if you agree.


She kinda looks trashy in this issue too.


I agree. My first thought was "she looks kinda slut faced".

Daniel Mengsk
06-18-2009, 01:46 PM
I don't mind her having both but this story is freaking ridiculous. Let's just ignore that idiot Fraction because I can't deal with him right now. The story in general is so freaking boring. It's hard for me to keep my eyes open to read page after page of Beast and his boring dialog. I really hope Betsy isn't caught up in some stupid love triangle especially with that wet blanket Beast. I don't mind her powerset but what kind of an idiot is Beast thinking "hey I need a telepath to shield me... oh I know I'll get one that barely has any telepathy left instead of choosing the millions of telepaths that are written in Uncanny every other week".


Hank is a sick, sick perverted cat!

I agree. My first thought was "she looks kinda slut faced".

:evilangry:

peopleofpaper
06-18-2009, 01:49 PM
Hank is a sick, sick perverted cat!



:evilangry:


she's totally giving him bedroom eyes
http://i42.tinypic.com/2cs6fyv.png

Daniel Mengsk
06-18-2009, 01:52 PM
she's totally giving him bedroom eyes
http://i42.tinypic.com/2cs6fyv.png

She's giving him the "touch me again and I'm going to have you neuter"-look

Anon_me
06-18-2009, 01:52 PM
she's totally giving him bedroom eyes
http://i42.tinypic.com/2cs6fyv.png

Or drugged out after he slipped her a mickey.

psycwave
06-18-2009, 01:55 PM
Or drugged out after he slipped her a mickey.

Thats more of what I was thinking.

Daniel Mengsk
06-18-2009, 01:56 PM
Or drugged out after he slipped her a mickey.

Maybe the "I'm DONE with cats"-look? :rolleyes:

Anon_me
06-18-2009, 02:02 PM
Maybe the "I'm DONE with cats"-look? :rolleyes:

Poor Rao...and Karma

Daniel Mengsk
06-18-2009, 02:05 PM
Poor Rao...and Karma

Rao?? Karma??

Anon_me
06-18-2009, 02:12 PM
Rao?? Karma??

Bad joke on the "done with cats" line

Dagger
06-18-2009, 02:13 PM
I'm actually liking this new aspect of her powers that Fraction's going to play with. Maybe one day she'll lose the telekinesis, and totally regain her telepathy/persuasion abilities. That seems like a fun ability to have.

psycwave
06-18-2009, 02:14 PM
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/psylocke%20only/00-1.jpg

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/psylocke%20only/000-3.jpg

CmX
06-18-2009, 02:16 PM
I'm actually liking this new aspect of her powers that Fraction's going to play with. Maybe one day she'll lose the telekinesis, and totally regain her telepathy/persuasion abilities. That seems like a fun ability to have.

It seems like Betsy is slowly regaining her telepathy. She has the power to suggest/persuade and/or cast illusions. So that's a form of telepathy IMO. I hope she uses her butterfly signature in conjunction with this! Can't wait to see how the rest of the issue pans out.

CmX
06-18-2009, 02:18 PM
Psylocke was SO badass during Psi-War. Her dialogue was so sharp and witty, it felt like the original Psylocke again. I loved it even if it only lasted two issues and it's ironic that she was written so very well against the very writers who despised her and wanted her dead.

Daniel Mengsk
06-18-2009, 02:19 PM
It seems like Betsy is slowly regaining her telepathy. She has the power to suggest/persuade and/or cast illusions. So that's a form of telepathy IMO. I hope she uses her butterfly signature in conjunction with this! Can't wait to see how the rest of the issue pans out.

I like this "new" power; I wonder though if she can affect telepaths as well.

Anon_me
06-18-2009, 02:19 PM
It seems like Betsy is slowly regaining her telepathy. She has the power to suggest/persuade and/or cast illusions. So that's a form of telepathy IMO. I hope she uses her butterfly signature in conjunction with this! Can't wait to see how the rest of the issue pans out.

talk...talk...talk...period costumes...talk...big flash...oooo, 1908...off-panel speech ballon "oi...'ow you do that?" =p

Dagger
06-18-2009, 02:20 PM
It seems like Betsy is slowly regaining her telepathy. She has the power to suggest/persuade and/or cast illusions. So that's a form of telepathy IMO. I hope she uses her butterfly signature in conjunction with this! Can't wait to see how the rest of the issue pans out.
I'd give my left nut for this to be true.
Psylocke was SO badass during Psi-War. Her dialogue was so sharp and witty, it felt like the original Psylocke again. I loved it even if it only lasted two issues and it's ironic that she was written so very well against the very writers who despised her and wanted her dead.
OMG YES! Did they really despise her? I didn't know that! I thought they were eventually going to use her. Was she supposed to sacrifice herself at the end of Psi-War?

psycwave
06-18-2009, 02:21 PM
I'm actually liking this new aspect of her powers that Fraction's going to play with. Maybe one day she'll lose the telekinesis, and totally regain her telepathy/persuasion abilities. That seems like a fun ability to have.

It seems like Betsy is slowly regaining her telepathy. She has the power to suggest/persuade and/or cast illusions. So that's a form of telepathy IMO. I hope she uses her butterfly signature in conjunction with this! Can't wait to see how the rest of the issue pans out.

IM in agreement with you both. Though I think the X-Club is a total snorefest I will pick this up only in support of Betsy and to see how these new powers play out. I also hope Warren tries to flrit only to get rejected.

And yeah Seagle/Kelly wrote her extremely well seeing as how they wanted to kill her off in the beginning.

CmX
06-18-2009, 02:22 PM
I'd give my left nut for this to be true.

OMG YES! Did they really despise her? I didn't know that! I thought they were eventually going to use her. Was she supposed to sacrifice herself at the end of Psi-War?

Yeah it was Kelly and Seagle right? They originally wrote the story that she dies along with defeating the Shadow King, but one or the other vetoed the idea and made it so that she had to lock out her telepathy, thus retiring her.

Remember after this storyline she pretty much went into limbo and only briefly appeared during the Apocalypse storyline and didn't return in the fold permanently until CC returned with Revolution.

Daniel Mengsk
06-18-2009, 02:28 PM
OMG YES! Did they really despise her? I didn't know that! I thought they were eventually going to use her. Was she supposed to sacrifice herself at the end of Psi-War?

EDIT: I think that they were going to kill her of and have "Jean" (http://psylocke.club.fr/gallerie/divers/pinup05.jpg) avenging Betsy, but they were not allowed to kill of Betsy - so I think, can't remember the details.

Daniel Mengsk
06-18-2009, 02:52 PM
she's totally giving him bedroom eyes
http://i42.tinypic.com/2cs6fyv.png

EDIT: Never mind.

Drey
06-18-2009, 03:13 PM
I agree. My first thought was "she looks kinda slut faced".

Our Lady Glorianna looks like a goddess. How dare you speak blasphemy!

Even though I did laugh out loud at work...:biggrin:

Her look reminds me of the cover that Salva did back during Milligan's run. It had Emma, Rogue, and Havok on it. Emma looks so bored on the cover lol.

Daniel Mengsk
06-18-2009, 03:34 PM
Poor Rao...and Karma

Kavita Rao...wikipedia....mumble, mumble...geneticist...Ord...Hank...aha! :biggrin:

Karma...wikipedia....mumble, mumble...Shadow King...fat...VeryFat...lesbian...a..ha..?:confused :

Drey
06-18-2009, 04:25 PM
The low degree of tp has the potential to NOT be complicated. Back in UXM when CC brought her mind and he had her running around in her mind he showed the parts of her that were a telepath in shards, maybe those shards needed to be put back together and it is slowly returning. I mean a similar thing happened to Jean in Morrison's X-men didn't it. Her teke started to slowly return to compliment her tp.

Yeah, it was quite interesting that for someone with no telepathy, she would sometimes manifest aspects of it, sometimes through her telekinetic sword weirdly. Since her resurrection she has:

-Walked around inside her mind and memories.

-Created a telekinetic katana/sword that can disrupt a person's nervous system just like the old telepathic knife/katana/sword did.

-Used her telekinetic sword to break mind control just like the psychic knife used to do.

-Used her telekinetic sword to exert some form of mind control over her opponent where they could not move. She did this to R'chel, Jamie, and even Cassandra Nova (in X-men: The End)

-Experienced clairvoyance during HoM when she shared Brian's experiences and vice versa.

-Experienced psychic feedback when one of her alternates was about to be killed as well as sharing her last few moments before death.

Or of course we could tie all her powersets into her Otherworld heritage. Saying that because she is both Otherworlder and mutant her mutant genome is in a flux, changing, evolving, becoming something new and different. She could go to Otherworld to find the cause of the flux or get Merlyn to stop it or something.

Yeah, when she was a pure telepath, she had the psycho-blasts which produced physical force strong enough to throw people/objects back 10 ft or so. Then after Revanche died Betsy started manifesting the telepathic katana/sword and blocked physical objects with it a couple times.

Then when she becomes a pure telekine she was still able to produce a sword that acted just like the knife. So they might as well just give her both.

I can't wait to see her use an illusion. She hasn't cast an illusion in almost 20 years!! She became so reliant on the knife it was ridiculous.

peopleofpaper
06-18-2009, 04:46 PM
I didn't know Psylocke had her face blown off pre-Dazzler

http://i44.tinypic.com/r0e9z9.jpghttp://i42.tinypic.com/16m7ixf.jpg

http://i41.tinypic.com/34pxudl.jpg

Daniel Mengsk
06-18-2009, 04:54 PM
-Experienced psychic feedback when one of her alternates was about to be killed as well as sharing her last few moments before death.

Nice observation Drey; maybe this is what has jump-started her new ability. I'm starting to love this new power.

She became so reliant on the knife it was ridiculous.

I know, I know; that's what happens when writers and editors doesn't talk to each other or get lazy.

Daniel Mengsk
06-18-2009, 04:56 PM
I didn't know Psylocke had her face blown off pre-Dazzler

http://i44.tinypic.com/r0e9z9.jpghttp://i42.tinypic.com/16m7ixf.jpg

http://i41.tinypic.com/34pxudl.jpg

Marvel UK?

peopleofpaper
06-18-2009, 04:58 PM
Marvel UK?

yeah, I was just digging through the gallery someone posted here. http://psylocke.club.fr/gallerie/divers.html

Askanipsion
06-18-2009, 04:58 PM
Marvel UK?

Yep - Psylocke appeared in a bunch of the UK books.

jarrod
06-18-2009, 05:01 PM
Y'know, I'm surprised Hitch has never had an X-Men run... they should nab him for alternating Uncanny arcs...

Daniel Mengsk
06-18-2009, 05:02 PM
yeah, I was just digging through the gallery someone posted here. http://psylocke.club.fr/gallerie/divers.html

Le Site!!!

Daniel Mengsk
06-18-2009, 05:14 PM
http://i41.tinypic.com/34pxudl.jpg

DoushbagGuy: "Oh, miss...you're hurt bad..."

Psylocke: "No shit Sherlock!"

eurazn
06-18-2009, 05:33 PM
I didn't know Psylocke had her face blown off pre-Dazzler

http://i44.tinypic.com/r0e9z9.jpghttp://i42.tinypic.com/16m7ixf.jpg

http://i41.tinypic.com/34pxudl.jpg

The SAME side of her face! Wow, Marvel really hates her right profile!

Askanipsion
06-18-2009, 05:35 PM
The SAME side of her face! Wow, Marvel really hates her right profile!

That is her bad side....in her fashion magazine spreads she always used to show off her left side. :tongue:

eurazn
06-18-2009, 05:38 PM
That is her bad side....in her fashion magazine spreads she always used to show off her left side. :tongue:

She should have parted her hair on the other side, then :biggrin:

Askanipsion
06-18-2009, 05:44 PM
She should have parted her hair on the other side, then :biggrin:

If you noticed, Jim Lee always draws Betsy with her hair hanging down on her left side too. :smile:

Daniel Mengsk
06-18-2009, 06:19 PM
She should have parted her hair on the other side, then :biggrin:

Why? Betsy hasn't got anything to be ashamed of. :smile:

Anon_me
06-18-2009, 06:25 PM
That is her bad side....in her fashion magazine spreads she always used to show off her left side. :tongue:

You mean, her British face...alas, the UK face off was not the face that was on said magazine covers =p

Psychic Illusion
06-18-2009, 06:25 PM
Psylocke must be a really hated character in general. I had no idea, and psi-war was her last/best arc! But than again they are the reason why she is no longer psychic. Sigh.......

Askanipsion
06-18-2009, 06:29 PM
Psylocke must be a really hated character in general. I had no idea, and psi-war was her last/best arc! But than again they are the reason why she is no longer psychic. Sigh.......

Well I just hope she gets more exposure since it looks like Emma won't be around......I just want the X-Club story over with. They are so boring.

Wasn't Dobson supposed to be the artist after Land??

CmX
06-18-2009, 06:48 PM
Well I just hope she gets more exposure since it looks like Emma won't be around......I just want the X-Club story over with. They are so boring.

Wasn't Dobson supposed to be the artist after Land??

Yeah Dodson starts with the Dark X-Men crossover.

Daniel Mengsk
06-18-2009, 06:53 PM
I just want the X-Club story over with. They are so boring.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ae/Mad_scientist.svg/275px-Mad_scientist.svg.png

"We will nerdify Psylocke!"

eurazn
06-18-2009, 07:32 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ae/Mad_scientist.svg/275px-Mad_scientist.svg.png

"We will nerdify Psylocke!"

Japaneseguy is quite the sleeper agent! Who knew he'd be the one to subvert our Lady Glorianna!

Daniel Mengsk
06-18-2009, 07:47 PM
Japaneseguy is quite the sleeper agent! Who knew he'd be the one to subvert our Lady Glorianna!

I hope that she sells the hole bunch (yes, even Warren) down the river. Perhaps she should conveniently stop using her teke-shields when that home made Sentinel starts attacking them.

EDIT: No, I really don't hope that she will do that.

CmX
06-18-2009, 07:55 PM
I'm glad Fraction decided to use Psylocke over Emma Frost for this mission. He easily could've had Emma tag along like he has since he started his run.

I think that says a lot for Psylocke and how Fraction views her as a character. I'm hoping she continues to have panel time it looks good so far.

metalgorgomon
06-18-2009, 07:59 PM
I didn't know Psylocke had her face blown off pre-Dazzler

http://i44.tinypic.com/r0e9z9.jpg
http://i42.tinypic.com/16m7ixf.jpg

http://i41.tinypic.com/34pxudl.jpg

Wow.., I haven't seen those images before.. LOL.. poor Betsy
Really cool avatar you have ther, peopleofpaper. Your avatars are just awesome..

As in the Uncanny #512, I'm really looking forward for her role in the X-Club especially her interaction with Beast and Warren.
Her new powerset is confusing.. I really hope it's a form of illussion-telepathy.

Like some already said.. I think Fraction is trying to give her back her telepathy.. and probably toning down her (super) telekinesis..
I just hope he can finish his intension regarding Betsy's power-set -by simplifying it, before a new creative team take over the book.

kk1
06-18-2009, 08:28 PM
The SAME side of her face! Wow, Marvel really hates her right profile!

That can't be a coincidence.

Aguja
06-18-2009, 08:31 PM
So both her bodies have had their faces blown off?? Well I guess that's at least racially fair.

peopleofpaper
06-18-2009, 08:32 PM
Wow.., I haven't seen those images before.. LOL.. poor Betsy
Really cool avatar you have ther, peopleofpaper. Your avatars are just awesome..


thanks :) i have been photo-manipulating x-women for as long as i can remember to resemble Psylocke instead lol

Askanipsion
06-18-2009, 08:48 PM
thanks :) i have been photo-manipulating x-women for as long as i can remember to resemble Psylocke instead lol

Nice new avatar!!

CmX
06-18-2009, 08:53 PM
We all have badass Psylocke avatars! Showing our support for Betsy. :)

psycwave
06-18-2009, 09:00 PM
OMG CmX is right!!

Drey
06-18-2009, 09:01 PM
Her new powerset is confusing.. I really hope it's a form of illussion-telepathy.

I'm sure it is. She was described as a "telekinetic psychic" last issue and many of us assumed that she must have regained her telepathy. Now we know that she has regained it, but only a little of it.

I'm quite stoked because I haven't seen her use any telepathic manipulation since 1991 or so. Just the knife.

Like some already said.. I think Fraction is trying to give her back her telepathy.. and probably toning down her (super) telekinesis..

I know her telekinesis was always said to be oh so powerful, able to smash mountains and the like, but we hardly ever saw any of that. She only really used it to enhance her fighting skills, fly, create force fields every now and then, and the TK sword.

When she did use it to do bigger things it was in combination with Rachel's telekinesis or an alternate Sue Storm's forcefield and she did a lot of passing out in the process. In New Excalibur Betsy got taken out by Shadow X Jean and she wasn't even Phoenix powered.

I just hope he can finish his intension regarding Betsy's power-set -by simplifying it, before a new creative team take over the book.

I'm sure he will. CC's downfall is that he waited way too long to finish his plots. Did Sage really need to deal with the Diana Fox personality for 40+ issues? Did we really need to be teased about Betsy doing telepathic-like stunts with her TK as well as having clairvoyant flashes here and there for years--only to ultimately see an alternate Psylocke possess both TP and TK in SotB only to be killed?

Daniel Mengsk
06-18-2009, 09:09 PM
thanks :) i have been photo-manipulating x-women for as long as i can remember to resemble Psylocke instead lol

Make me one? That sparkles and stuff, like yours?

We all have badass Psylocke avatars! Showing our support for Betsy. :)

:frown:

I was going to use your avatar CmX, but i didn't want to copycat you.


So, Betsy has stolen her new power from Sonatine (from the Darkness series)! Remember, old creepy guy who had a medallion that made people see and believe whatever he said?

From the Fraction podcast: "How did the white Britisy lady become an Asian ninja --- thing." "She's terrific -- and she's also a powerset that the team needs."
"Also foxy psychic ninja --"

psycwave
06-18-2009, 09:15 PM
I know her telekinesis was always said to be oh so powerful, able to smash mountains and the like, but we hardly ever saw any of that. She only really used it to enhance her fighting skills, fly, create force fields every now and then, and the TK sword.


I actually liked the way Betsy used her teke. I think it could have been expounded upon a bit more but it still works. She shouldnt use it in the conventional way as other teke users such as flying, blowing out walls, and such. I see her more as a combat teke using it to augment her strength, speed, leaping, an occasional blast of tk energy but mainly used for knockback purposes during a fight, tk sword affecting physical instead of mental, and some force field every now and again.

.LuckyStar.
06-18-2009, 09:29 PM
This thread is moving too fast! lol

@Favorite Psylocke artists:
01. Bachalo
02. Silvestri
03. Joe Madureira
04. German Garcia
05. Larocca

@Bachalo's costume
I've always imagined that if Carey had got Psylocke to his run, Bachalo would re-use his AoA design for Betsy, which I don't mind at all. I love that version!

@UXN512
AAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEE! Finally, Psylocke interacting with Warren!!! I like her low-level telepathy. Hopefully it will grow stronger as the TK fades away! It must be a long time since JapaneseGuy last saw a woman in bathing suit! Beast is the bore though!

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/5273/lovelovelove.png ♥

@psycwave
Please, more Psi-War!!! lol

Daniel Mengsk
06-18-2009, 09:30 PM
I know her telekinesis was always said to be oh so powerful, able to smash mountains and the like, but we hardly ever saw any of that. She only really used it to enhance her fighting skills, fly, create force fields every now and then, and the TK sword.

Do you want her to crush a mountain with her thoughts Drey? Do you dream about her crushing a mountain with her thoughts Drey? Well do you, do you? :biggrin:

CmX
06-18-2009, 09:37 PM
This thread is moving too fast! lol

@Favorite Psylocke artists:
01. Bachalo
02. Silvestri
03. Joe Madureira
04. German Garcia
05. Larocca

@Bachalo's costume
I've always imagined that if Carey had got Psylocke to his run, Bachalo would re-use his AoA design for Betsy, which I don't mind at all. I love that version!

@UXN512
AAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEE! Finally, Psylocke interacting with Warren!!! I like her low-level telepathy. Hopefully it will grow stronger as the TK fades away! It must be a long time since JapaneseGuy last saw a woman in bathing suit! Beast is the bore though!

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/5273/lovelovelove.png ♥

@psycwave
Please, more Psi-War!!! lol

I love German Garcia too! Even if it was for two issues he drew a great gorgeous Psylocke and the prettiest butterfly signature EVER imo.

LMAO @ Japanese guy, that is the funniest thing ever.

kk1
06-18-2009, 09:38 PM
This thread is moving too fast! lol

@Favorite Psylocke artists:
01. Bachalo
02. Silvestri
03. Joe Madureira
04. German Garcia
05. Larocca

ol

A top 5 of Psylocke artists and no Alan Davis? Blasphemy.

peopleofpaper
06-18-2009, 09:39 PM
Make me one? That sparkles and stuff, like yours?


find me a picture and i'll photoshop glitter and divasparkles in it

psycwave
06-18-2009, 09:42 PM
@psycwave
Please, more Psi-War!!! lol

Ask and ye shall recieve...

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/psylocke%20only/025bf4c0.jpg
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/psylocke%20only/00-2.jpg
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/psylocke%20only/000-4.jpg

psycwave
06-18-2009, 09:43 PM
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/psylocke%20only/409e3206.jpg
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/psylocke%20only/00-3.jpg
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/psylocke%20only/0000-2.jpg
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/psylocke%20only/000-5.jpg

psycwave
06-18-2009, 09:44 PM
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/psylocke%20only/00000-2.jpg

Daniel Mengsk
06-18-2009, 09:56 PM
find me a picture and i'll photoshop glitter and divasparkles in it

You're the Best, I bow to your Greatness! I want that one, the one under your post, the Betsy vs Shadow King pic that psycwave just put up!!! I want the one with the Lady M helmet! :biggrin:

Daniel Mengsk
06-18-2009, 10:01 PM
Ask and ye shall recieve...

Do you have very, very early Outback scans??? Like right after the resurrection by Roma???

peopleofpaper
06-18-2009, 10:10 PM
You're the Best, I bow to your Greatness! I want that one, the one under your post, the Betsy vs Shadow King pic that psycwave just put up!!! I want the one with the Lady M helmet! :biggrin:

lol ok here's a couple
http://i42.tinypic.com/21col.gif http://i44.tinypic.com/k3mxdj.gif

psycwave
06-18-2009, 10:13 PM
Do you have very, very early Outback scans??? Like right after the resurrection by Roma???

You mean like these

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/psylocke%20only/00-4.jpg
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/psylocke%20only/000-6.jpg
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/psylocke%20only/0000-3.jpg
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/psylocke%20only/032-1.jpg

Daniel Mengsk
06-18-2009, 10:24 PM
lol ok here's a couple]

Yup! Thank you! :biggrin:

More, more!! Older/New Exile Lady M???

Yes, i'm a greedy bastard! I think that I'm going to try to use one now, before I log off....

You mean like these



Yes, yes!! Do you have more after that issue??? THANKYOU!!! :biggrin:

God, between the avatars and the scans, I think that I just......um, nevermind. :redface:

Drey
06-18-2009, 10:33 PM
I actually liked the way Betsy used her teke. I think it could have been expounded upon a bit more but it still works. She shouldnt use it in the conventional way as other teke users such as flying, blowing out walls, and such. I see her more as a combat teke using it to augment her strength, speed, leaping, an occasional blast of tk energy but mainly used for knockback purposes during a fight, tk sword affecting physical instead of mental, and some force field every now and again.

I liked the way she used it too. The invisibility trick was a no no though. It came out of left field and I don't want her manipulating molecules. I loved the stroke she gave Shadow Xavier though. I was just commenting on how her TK was supposedly so strong when it wasn't really anything out of the ordinary. Nate Grey, Phoenix, and others were capable of much more.

Do you want her to crush a mountain with her thoughts Drey? Do you dream about her crushing a mountain with her thoughts Drey? Well do you, do you? :biggrin:

Not really, no. I dream about me crushing mountains with my thoughts. :tongue:

Edit: Lovely scans. :biggrin:

The Sword Is Drawn
06-19-2009, 01:48 AM
A top 5 of Psylocke artists and no Alan Davis? Blasphemy.

Agreed. That's just plain wrong.

RachelRules
06-19-2009, 06:47 AM
Somebody else may have already posted this (if so, sorry), but did anyone find it kind of strange that Psylocke would be smiling and arm in arm with Dazzler after she defeated the evil persona that Maddy forced on her? Dazzler had just blown the face off of her original body after all! You'd think she'd be traumatized at staring down at what used to be her body.

Daniel Mengsk
06-19-2009, 07:18 AM
Somebody else may have already posted this (if so, sorry), but did anyone find it kind of strange that Psylocke would be smiling and arm in arm with Dazzler after she defeated the evil persona that Maddy forced on her? Dazzler had just blown the face off of her original body after all! You'd think she'd be traumatized at staring down at what used to be her body.

Yeah, but Betsy can't stay/be mad at Alison, not when they're BFF!!! :biggrin:

About Betsy not being traumatized - remember what Maddie said; "Betsy traveled to places and spaces beyond the comprehension of most". Betsy is so used to things like this, so no, I'm not surprised that she wasn't shocked.

timbox
06-19-2009, 07:24 AM
Somebody else may have already posted this (if so, sorry), but did anyone find it kind of strange that Psylocke would be smiling and arm in arm with Dazzler after she defeated the evil persona that Maddy forced on her? Dazzler had just blown the face off of her original body after all! You'd think she'd be traumatized at staring down at what used to be her body.

Betsy didn’t like that face/body anyways. She was very happy that Dazzler blew it apart. That’s why she is smiling so much.

Daniel Mengsk
06-19-2009, 07:41 AM
Betsy didn’t like that face/body anyways. She was very happy that Dazzler blew it apart. That’s why she is smiling so much.

I thought that she was smiling (like crazy) because she was:

a) with her BFF

and

b) she got Landified!

Seccruz
06-19-2009, 09:18 AM
I thought that she was smiling (like crazy) because she was:

a) with her BFF

and

b) she got Landified!

and why can't she be both...being written by Fraction has got to be insanity inducing...I know I feel crazy!!!

Daniel Mengsk
06-19-2009, 10:39 AM
Not really, no. I dream about me crushing mountains with my thoughts. :tongue:

:rolleyes:

and why can't she be both...being written by Fraction has got to be insanity inducing...I know I feel crazy!!!

So what's worst in your opinion, being Landified or Fractionized? Come to think about it, poor Betsy was both...:frown:

Bronze Badger
06-19-2009, 10:40 AM
:rolleyes:



So what's worst in your opinion, being Landified or Fractionized? Come to think about it, poor Betsy was both...:frown:

Liefieldated.

Daniel Mengsk
06-19-2009, 10:46 AM
Liefieldated.

Worse than being Landified/Fractionized? Has Betsy been Liefieldated?

Daniel Mengsk
06-19-2009, 12:48 PM
There's another page...

"sneak peek" (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_YrxEulLV3dk/SaMhKxVSA6I/AAAAAAAAAhQ/_AgCilotPnI/s1600-h/pg5.jpg)


...Rachel's there too. I'm guessing it's a "What If?" or something...

This could be one of the twelve What If (http://www.newsarama.com/comics/090620-heroes-marvel-cb.htm) stories that are coming out this year.

Psychic Illusion
06-19-2009, 02:24 PM
If that is what if, is this gonna be Psylocke's first appearance in the what if books?

Anon_me
06-19-2009, 02:26 PM
Nah, she was in a what-if story years ago where Cable killed Xavier, Jean, and Scott.

Tazirai
06-19-2009, 04:18 PM
Mine are....

Alan Davis
Bachalo
Lee
Larroca
Joe Mad

Add silvestri and im good. also Art adams.

psycwave
06-19-2009, 04:19 PM
I liked the way she used it too. The invisibility trick was a no no though. It came out of left field and I don't want her manipulating molecules. I loved the stroke she gave Shadow Xavier though. I was just commenting on how her TK was supposedly so strong when it wasn't really anything out of the ordinary. Nate Grey, Phoenix, and others were capable of much more.


I think I would have bought into the whole invisibilty trick more if I would have actually seen her practicing it. The whole "I can become invisible due to my telekinesis all of a sudden" trick just made it horrible for me. The stroke she gave SK was phenomenal.

Tazirai
06-19-2009, 04:24 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/parenting/images/300/baby_crying_closeup.jpg



http://net4baby.com/baby/images/stories/main/crying_baby.jpg




http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs084.snc1/4896_198778470004_670400004_7238053_2987569_n.jpg


I almost spit my juice out for this.. omfg so damn funny.

Tazirai
06-19-2009, 04:36 PM
Psylocke must be a really hated character in general. I had no idea, and psi-war was her last/best arc! But than again they are the reason why she is no longer psychic. Sigh.......

seems that way to me also. People just have no clue what to do with her it seems.. damn shame too.

Tazirai
06-19-2009, 04:48 PM
We all have badass Psylocke avatars! Showing our support for Betsy. :)

well.. mine is kind of passive. But it's my favorite pic of her. It's basically the icon I use all over the internetz.. specially on the google. ^^

Tazirai
06-19-2009, 04:59 PM
Liefieldated.

I agree. I rather have her landified than Youngbloodified.

Askanipsion
06-19-2009, 05:13 PM
I agree. I rather have her landified than Youngbloodified.

Yeah cause then she would look like Cable with deformed limbs.....YUCK!! :wink:

Aguja
06-19-2009, 08:06 PM
But I think Kelly/Seagle deserve props for writing such a great story with a character they did not even care all that much for. Most writers these days give everything good to their pet characters and let those they don't like rot. At least they let Betsy go out with a bang.

Don't get me wrong I'm thrilled Betsy is still around but if she had died at the end of Psi-War I would have been sad but it would have been a good and meaningful death.

And I just realized Betsy has a nice feather in her cap. Jean & Emma have never faced/defeated the Shadow King correct? Not bad for the 'other' telepath.

Daniel Mengsk
06-19-2009, 08:22 PM
And I just realized Betsy has a nice feather in her cap. Jean & Emma have never faced/defeated the Shadow King correct? Not bad for the 'other' telepath.

She has defeated him on three occasions!!! :biggrin:

And in one of those occasions, she didn't even have her telepathy!

From the Fraction interview:

IGN Comics: As you mentioned, the character who did make her return this month was Psylocke. What made you want to bring her back?

Fraction: The team is pretty masculine, and we were looking for ways to bulk up the females on the team. I think she's a great, interesting character, and what we've done with her kind of synthesizes her two histories into one person. That'll give us some cool places to go with her character in the next year. It's not quite the same Psylocke everyone has seen before. Her power-set is a little bit different. Her personality is a little bit different. She's these two synthesized Psylockes as one with bits of each combined into this one person. And she's cool. She's got a great power-set and a cool costume. She's a super-powerful woman, and we don't get enough of those.

IGN Comics: And she's a ninja. You can't really go wrong with that.

Fraction: And she's a ninja. And Asian. So it's win-win-win. Psychic ninja! Who doesn't want to write about a psychic ninja?

IGN Comics: Is she going to be playing a big role in the series right away?

Fraction: She plays a big role in issue #512. She also shows up in X-Men/Dark Avengers and going forward. I'm looking forward to her being a member of the team.

The whole interview can be found here (http://comics.ign.com/articles/996/996452p1.html).


Fraction doesn't get Psylocke at all.

Fatguy
06-19-2009, 08:29 PM
Fraction doesn't get Psylocke at all.

Is she NOT a psychic ninja?

Daniel Mengsk
06-19-2009, 08:32 PM
Is she NOT a psychic ninja?

Nope, she's a psychic warrior.

Fatguy
06-19-2009, 08:38 PM
Nope, she's a psychic warrior.

Pfft, she's a product of the Hand. That makes her Ninja.

Daniel Mengsk
06-19-2009, 08:42 PM
Pfft, she's a product of the Hand. That makes her Ninja.

And Peter Parkers new existence is a product of evil, that doesn't make him evil.

Fatguy
06-19-2009, 08:44 PM
And Peter Parkers new existence is a product of evil, that doesn't make him evil.

Mephisto didn't train Spider-Man how to be Spider-Man.

peopleofpaper
06-19-2009, 08:46 PM
Yeah I think he's an idiot in general. I'm more pissed about the way he talks about Jean. 'oh yeah it's a riot how i pretended to bring Jean and british Betsy back and nothing changed. April Fools teehee :P'.

Psylocke has been through a lot but at least she was always Betsy on the inside. Always had the same personality. I don't like what Fraction might be saying. It seems he is saying Kwannon's personality is inside of her as well and is more prevalent than before. Her getting a new powerset is unnecessary but I don't want the character to change. It's one thing for a stupid body swap and power swap, but if you change the character on the inside why not just get a NEW CHARACTER instead of constantly changing an established one?

timbox
06-19-2009, 08:49 PM
British Psylocke is dead!!! :( These people need to get over it.

Daniel Mengsk
06-19-2009, 08:53 PM
Mephisto didn't train Spider-Man how to be Spider-Man.

I'll give you an answer on X-Crescence, I have I feeling that I can't win the argument here - it's going around in circles.

Yeah I think he's an idiot in general. I'm more pissed about the way he talks about Jean. 'oh yeah it's a riot how i pretended to bring Jean and british Betsy back and nothing changed. April Fools teehee :P'.

Psylocke has been through a lot but at least she was always Betsy on the inside. Always had the same personality. I don't like what Fraction might be saying. It seems he is saying Kwannon's personality is inside of her as well and is more prevalent than before. Her getting a new powerset is unnecessary but I don't want the character to change. It's one thing for a stupid body swap and power swap, but if you change the character on the inside why not just get a NEW CHARACTER instead of constantly changing an established one?

I don't understand it either, Betsy was herself 100% during New Exiles, specially after having confronted and defeated Lady M inside of her. Why must she always fight herself or another version all the time?!

Fatguy
06-19-2009, 09:01 PM
I'll give you an answer on X-Crescence, I have I feeling that I can't win the argument here - it's going around in circles.


lol you cant win it anywhere....you ask pretty much anybody, and they would tell you they CONSIDER a her ninja. Saying "No, she's a warrior" is basically saying "No, I'm a fan and I want creators to go into intense details on how incredible she is!". He was being simple and flippant, he's not gonna go into intense detail on the exact nature of her fighting skills. Probably because he doesnt care, nor should he. Its not like that level of minute detail makes its way onto the page.

She was trained by ninja, fights like a ninja, Mr. Joe Comic Reader would consider her a ninja.

We can just agree to disagree that you saying Fraction "Doesnt get Psylocke AT ALL" was a silly over exaggeration.

peopleofpaper
06-19-2009, 09:01 PM
British Psylocke is dead!!! :( These people need to get over it.

NO! Get out of my house!

Daniel Mengsk
06-19-2009, 09:06 PM
We can just agree to disagree that you saying Fraction "Doesnt get Psylocke AT ALL" was a silly over exaggeration.

Or we can agree and just say that it wasn't an exaggeration at all, I mean, Fraction pretty much admitted to know next to nothing about Betsy's history on the podcast interview he did recently. :smile:

Daniel Mengsk
06-19-2009, 09:08 PM
NO! Get out of my house!

Should we use our blinking Betsy-avatars on him? A double Betsy-attack. :biggrin:

peopleofpaper
06-19-2009, 09:12 PM
Should we use our blinking Betsy-avatars on him? A double Betsy-attack. :biggrin:

lol seizure inducing avatars attack

but seriously i'm more annoyed by Fraction saying he's changing her personality. that doesn't have anything to do with my preference for british betsy. it's just out of the blue to change her again. :rolleyes:

Daniel Mengsk
06-19-2009, 09:15 PM
lol seizure inducing avatars attack

but seriously i'm more annoyed by Fraction saying he's changing her personality. that doesn't have anything to do with my preference for british betsy. it's just out of the blue to change her again. :rolleyes:

If this is his idea of simplifying things, then I don't want to know what his "complicated version" was.

Psychic Illusion
06-19-2009, 09:36 PM
What's worse is fraction is writing betsy till next year. Uhhhhhh

On a funner note, isn't it a coincidence that warren told betsy to watch her step in issue 512 and in the animated series right before she psistabbed him? Thought that was funny.

Drey
06-19-2009, 10:00 PM
IGN Comics: As you mentioned, the character who did make her return this month was Psylocke. What made you want to bring her back?

Fraction: The team is pretty masculine, and we were looking for ways to bulk up the females on the team. I think she's a great, interesting character, and what we've done with her kind of synthesizes her two histories into one person. That'll give us some cool places to go with her character in the next year. It's not quite the same Psylocke everyone has seen before. Her power-set is a little bit different. Her personality is a little bit different. She's these two synthesized Psylockes as one with bits of each combined into this one person. And she's cool. She's got a great power-set and a cool costume. She's a super-powerful woman, and we don't get enough of those.


Two histories? Intriguing. I wonder if he's referring to the "calculating, deceptive Psylocke" and the "action junkie Psylocke".

During her British days, she was quite deceptive and actually did well as a tactician. When she became Lady Mandarin, she gained her "action junkie" qualities, but was still quite a deceptive opponent. I think she was best during this time because she used her ninja skills in tandem with illusions, while also using mind control when she had to. The psychic knife was a quick finisher.

But as time went on and after CC left the books, Psylocke became a pure action junkie, jumping into fights using just her ninja skills and her psychic knife. Gone were the days of psionic assaults, illusions, mind control, etc.

Enter: Crimson Dawn, limbo, Psi-War (which rocked), limbo, TK, death, etc.

Perhaps this "combination of Psylockes" is about returning the deceptive aspect of her by manipulating her opponents again with her powers and thinking things through more instead of jumping head first into battle with her fists and feet.

If that is what it means then I welcome it. I'm hoping anyway...

psycwave
06-19-2009, 10:03 PM
Two histories? Intriguing. I wonder if he's referring to the "calculating, deceptive Psylocke" and the "action junkie Psylocke".

During her British days, she was quite deceptive and actually did well as a tactician. When she became Lady Mandarin, she gained her "action junkie" qualities, but was still quite a deceptive opponent. I think she was best during this time because she used her ninja skills in tandem with illusions, while also using mind control when she had to. The psychic knife was a quick finisher.

But as time went on and after CC left the books, Psylocke became a pure action junkie, jumping into fights using just her ninja skills and her psychic knife. Gone were the days of psionic assaults, illusions, mind control, etc.

Enter: Crimson Dawn, limbo, Psi-War (which rocked), limbo, TK, death, etc.

Perhaps this "combination of Psylockes" is about returning the deceptive aspect of her by manipulating her opponents again with her powers and thinking things through more instead of jumping head first into battle with her fists and feet.

If that is what it means then I welcome it. I'm hoping anyway...

I like this idea Drey. I was actually thinking something similar myself. If he can somehow merge the action junkie with my calculating tactian love then I might actually give praise to Fraction.

Drey
06-19-2009, 10:06 PM
I like this idea Drey. I was actually thinking something similar myself. If he can somehow merge the action junkie with my calculating tactian love then I might actually give praise to Fraction.

Thanks!! I think we should cross our fingers!! :biggrin:

Daniel Mengsk
06-19-2009, 10:09 PM
Thanks!! I think we should cross our fingers!! :biggrin:

My fingers are broken after #508-511. :frown:

BUT....I do like her new power, and the fact the she will play a big (?) role against the Dark A/X! AND that's she at least is in the 616-Universe, in case some other writer wants to put her on his team!

metalgorgomon
06-20-2009, 01:02 AM
Two histories? Intriguing. I wonder if he's referring to the "calculating, deceptive Psylocke" and the "action junkie Psylocke".

During her British days, she was quite deceptive and actually did well as a tactician. When she became Lady Mandarin, she gained her "action junkie" qualities, but was still quite a deceptive opponent. I think she was best during this time because she used her ninja skills in tandem with illusions, while also using mind control when she had to. The psychic knife was a quick finisher.

But as time went on and after CC left the books, Psylocke became a pure action junkie, jumping into fights using just her ninja skills and her psychic knife. Gone were the days of psionic assaults, illusions, mind control, etc.

Enter: Crimson Dawn, limbo, Psi-War (which rocked), limbo, TK, death, etc.

Perhaps this "combination of Psylockes" is about returning the deceptive aspect of her by manipulating her opponents again with her powers and thinking things through more instead of jumping head first into battle with her fists and feet.

If that is what it means then I welcome it. I'm hoping anyway...

That's exactly what I think upon reading the interview, Drey.
My favorite Betsy era was the post Lady Mandarin era, which had both qualities of Outback and Ninja Betsy.

I'm just glad that (hopefully) Betsy will play a prominent role in Uncanny. Guess Emma will be 'semi-delegated' to Dark X-Men for awhile.. I'm looking forward to see more Betsy in the X-Book.

My only gripe is Betsy is gonna get thru somekind of powerset-changing again. It's just seems that every new writer want to have their own take on Betsy.
I really hope this time, it'll be for the better.

And am I the only one who likes the 'Psychic Ninja' term? It's sounds like the combination of Outback and Ninja Betsy.

.LuckyStar.
06-20-2009, 01:27 AM
A top 5 of Psylocke artists and no Alan Davis? Blasphemy.

I kinda hate Alan Davis' art. lol Really really hate.

Ask and ye shall recieve...
YAY! Thank you ♥ Psi-War is the quintessential Psylocke story IMO!

British Psylocke is dead!!! :( These people need to get over it.

You make me so hot!

LOL. Calm down, you guys. I really don't mind Fraction's interview. As a matter fact I kinda liked what he said. He seems pretty optimistic and excited about her. He could have used Emma or some image inducer in UNX512, but instead he chose to use Psylocke. I think that's a good sign. In this issue alone she'll do more than Dazzler, Storm or Karma did in a whole year. We haven't seen how he writes Psylocke yet - she was brainwashed the whole Sisterhood arc - but I'm already happy that she's getting to interact with her old friends (Angel and Beast). As for her powers, I'd hardly call it a new power, it's just an aspect of her telepathy returning. So I'm ok with it. As for her personality, I agree with Drey. The body-transfer was probably a traumatic experience for her, so most likely it will lead to some changes. But really, this is just comic book creator talk. She'll hardly change dramatically. In a nutshell, I'm just really back that Betsy is back in the core book. I mean, currently she's like the second X-Woman, only behind Emma. Even Storm is being sidelined. I think we should be happy that she's going to play a part in all those upcoming stories. And remember: she was stuck in Exiles for two years. Not to mention CC being her only writer for like 9 years in a row. This is a huge improvement from last year. I'm willing to give Fraction a chance. :D

B. Kuwanger
06-20-2009, 01:34 AM
Now that I know for sure that Fraction is using Asian Psylocke, I will be reading his comic.

kk1
06-20-2009, 07:42 AM
I kinda hate Alan Davis' art. lol Really really hate.





:eek: I feel so sad for you.

metalgorgomon
06-20-2009, 08:08 AM
@LuckyStar
Agreed with everything you've said.
And while I don't hate Alan Davis' art, I just don't like it as much as the other 5 artists I've mention earlier..

I'm pretty excited to see the direction Fraction's gonna bring Betsy.. She came back just around the perfect time before being exposed to the bigger MU in the Dark Avengers/Uncanny crossover.
Bet she's gonna be fighting Karla...

timbox
06-20-2009, 08:10 AM
You make me so hot!


@LuckyStar
Agreed with everything you've said.


I also agree.

psycwave
06-20-2009, 08:18 AM
OMG if Karla and Betsy fight im gonna cream myself. I love both of them soooooo freakin much!! And I also agree with .LuckyStar. I didnt find the interview that bad. At the moment I dont see Betts becoming wallpaper as much as some of the other ladies have had to endure. I mean were hitting that stride where Fraction HAS to use as many mutants as he can. 512 will have some good Betsy moments and then Utopia starts where it seems like she will be doing some big things. And even if she doesn't have a really magnificent role at least she is on a lot of covers!

Drey
06-20-2009, 08:23 AM
I'm just glad that (hopefully) Betsy will play a prominent role in Uncanny. Guess Emma will be 'semi-delegated' to Dark X-Men for awhile.. I'm looking forward to see more Betsy in the X-Book.

I love Emma, but I'd definately be ok with her taking more of a back seat while Psylocke gets her chance to shine.

My only gripe is Betsy is gonna get thru somekind of powerset-changing again. It's just seems that every new writer want to have their own take on Betsy.
I really hope this time, it'll be for the better.

Everyone has been calling for her telepathy to come back for years. Now that it's returning, albeit a little at a time--so many are complaining about her powers changing again and calling them new, when it's really not. I think it's about time we saw those powers come back. The only thing that'll be different is that she'll have telekinesis at the same time this time.

It's kinda funny though. While she was a pure telepath she still manifested telekinetic-like abilities. The psycho-blast and the psychic katana (manifested right after Revanche's death) had telekinetic qualities.

While she was a pure telekine, she manifested telepathic-like abilities. The psychic sword that broke psychic inhibitors, disrupted the nervous system, and acted as a form of mind control when it was used to keep R'chel, Jamie, and Cassandra Nova from moving.

Not to mention the clairvoyant flashes in HoM and SotB, psychic battles with Lady Mandarin, and the precog vision of Brian being killed by Slaymaster.

I think Fraction is just expanding on that.

And am I the only one who likes the 'Psychic Ninja' term? It's sounds like the combination of Outback and Ninja Betsy.

I've always loved the 'psychic ninja' term. I guess this next issue will determine how well or bad Betsy is written. The last two issues of the Sisterhood arc was just too much of a mess.


but I'm already happy that she's getting to interact with her old friends (Angel and Beast).

I'm glad to see that too. Though Beast kinda creeps me out because he's always touching her and slobbering over her. I was reading X-men: First Class #15 last night for the first time and he was all over Medusa. Damn Hank learn how to not be so obvious.

Home made ectoplasm
06-20-2009, 08:27 AM
LOL. Calm down, you guys. I really don't mind Fraction's interview. As a matter fact I kinda liked what he said. He seems pretty optimistic and excited about her. He could have used Emma or some image inducer in UNX512, but instead he chose to use Psylocke. I think that's a good sign. In this issue alone she'll do more than Dazzler, Storm or Karma did in a whole year. We haven't seen how he writes Psylocke yet - she was brainwashed the whole Sisterhood arc - but I'm already happy that she's getting to interact with her old friends (Angel and Beast). As for her powers, I'd hardly call it a new power, it's just an aspect of her telepathy returning. So I'm ok with it. As for her personality, I agree with Drey. The body-transfer was probably a traumatic experience for her, so most likely it will lead to some changes. But really, this is just comic book creator talk. She'll hardly change dramatically. In a nutshell, I'm just really back that Betsy is back in the core book. I mean, currently she's like the second X-Woman, only behind Emma. Even Storm is being sidelined. I think we should be happy that she's going to play a part in all those upcoming stories. And remember: she was stuck in Exiles for two years. Not to mention CC being her only writer for like 9 years in a row. This is a huge improvement from last year. I'm willing to give Fraction a chance. :D

Nicely put.

On another note, how do Betty fans feel about Meggan's new code-name being Lady Glorianna?

psycwave
06-20-2009, 08:29 AM
Drey I think you keep hitting the nail right on the head.
I think this whole new power-set is actually okay. It can be explained and made sense of in a number of way. The things Drey stated, Otherworld genes, etc. lets see how Fraction plays it out.

Oh and even though I loathe Fraction I love the "Psychic Ninja" term.

metalgorgomon
06-20-2009, 08:35 AM
OMG if Karla and Betsy fight im gonna cream myself. I love both of them soooooo freakin much!!

Yess..
Two things I'd love to see in the crossover (other than good story) are:
- Betsy vs Karla fight. Karla is one ruthless bitch.. Wonder how Betsy''ll fare against her.
- Betsy psyknifed The Sentry :p

psycwave
06-20-2009, 08:40 AM
Yess..
- Betsy vs Karla fight. Karla is one ruthless bitch.. Wonder how Betsy''ll fare against her.


Yes, Karla is so ruthless. I wonder if Fraction will play on Betsy's ruthless side as well. I mean of course she is an X-man and they aren't supposed to kill and yadda but we all know Betts will do some serious damage as she see's fit. I think the battle between those two would be epic.

Drey
06-20-2009, 09:25 AM
Nicely put.

On another note, how do Betty fans feel about Meggan's new code-name being Lady Glorianna?

Our Lady Glorianna belongs to Betsy only. :cool:

Drey I think you keep hitting the nail right on the head.
I think this whole new power-set is actually okay. It can be explained and made sense of in a number of way. The things Drey stated, Otherworld genes, etc. lets see how Fraction plays it out.

Oh and even though I loathe Fraction I love the "Psychic Ninja" term.

I think we might be psychic twins...well maybe triplets because I claimed CmX as my psychic twin a long time ago. :biggrin:

Daniel Mengsk
06-20-2009, 09:51 AM
I kinda hate Alan Davis' art. lol Really really hate.

Hate Alan Davis art? Really? But what about this:
http://psylocke.club.fr/news/pic/uxm463.jpg

Darkchylde
06-20-2009, 12:44 PM
I'm excited for Psylocke's return. I think Fraction intends to incorporate both histories of Psylocke (her psychic powerhouse days combined with her action-junkie status).

Hell, if anyone has the powerset and personality for it, it's Psylocke.

jarrod
06-20-2009, 12:47 PM
On another note, how do Betty fans feel about Meggan's new code-name being Lady Glorianna?
lol. I think Cornell must lurk on CBR. He brought up Brian's pedo too!




Paul, if you're reading this plz hold Lowe at gunpoint until he gives you Uncanny. <3 <3

psycwave
06-20-2009, 12:51 PM
lol. I think Cornell must lurk on CBR. He brought up Brian's pedo too!

Paul, if you're reading this plz hold Lowe at gunpoint until he gives you Uncanny. <3 <3

YES I can just imagine the graet things he would do with Betsy and Kurt. <3<3

I wonder if Betts will actually be using a sword in the upcoming crossover or if that is just Cover fodder.

jarrod
06-20-2009, 12:56 PM
YES I can just imagine the graet things he would do with Betsy and Kurt. <3<3
Oh, you just know it'd be AMAZING. Plus you could bet on Betsy dropping the Nerd Herd for some EPIC BURSTY action! :biggrin:

eurazn
06-20-2009, 01:09 PM
Oh, you just know it'd be AMAZING. Plus you could bet on Betsy dropping the Nerd Herd for some EPIC BURSTY action! :biggrin:

At this point, as long as she does the above in bold, I'm happy whatever the motivation, lol.

As for Alan Davis, he brought us the glorious R'Chel, so I <3 him.

jarrod
06-20-2009, 01:12 PM
At this point, as long as she does the above in bold, I'm happy whatever the motivation, lol.

As for Alan Davis, he brought us the glorious R'Chel, so I <3 him.
I want BURTSY (Betsy+Kurt) or I want X tu Mama Tabien (Betsy+Sam+Bobby). What I don't want is Nerd Herd (Betsy+Hank+Warren) and it looks like that's what I'm getting. :frown:

psycwave
06-20-2009, 01:55 PM
As do I. I certainly prefer Kurt over Warren. And especially over Beast.

eurazn
06-20-2009, 04:22 PM
As do I. I certainly prefer Kurt over Warren. And especially over Beast.

NO ONE prefers Beast for anything ... except, perhaps, for a sleep aid.

Aguja
06-20-2009, 04:25 PM
Well the Fraption only said Warren's turn on was Betsy. It did not say the same for Betsy. Perhaps she has denied him.

Daniel Mengsk
06-20-2009, 07:16 PM
Well the Fraption only said Warren's turn on was Betsy. It did not say the same for Betsy. Perhaps she has denied him.

Well, surveillance equipment at the Crystal Palace was state of the art; it can't have been much fun for poor Betsy to have seen Angel and Husk having sex, in 3D no less.

EDIT: Wait, did I just post -- post 5000???

CmX
06-20-2009, 10:23 PM
Psylocke was still dead when Warren was screwing Paige.

Are the conventions still running tomorrow as well? I think we're going to get some surprise Psylocke news.

Beast
06-21-2009, 12:34 PM
According to a tease at Millarworld... expect to hear about a Psylocke mini-series today.

No word on the writer, other than he's a big name.

psycwave
06-21-2009, 12:40 PM
According to a tease at Millarworld... expect to hear about a Psylocke mini-series today.

No word on the writer, other than he's a big name.

Dont play with my emotions Beast.
Who is this tease? Is he usually accurate? What are his hints? Time of said tease?

Beast
06-21-2009, 12:42 PM
Dont play with my emotions Beast.
Who is this tease? Is he usually accurate? What are his hints? Time of said tease?
Just passing on what was posted at Millarworld by one of the Mods.

There was no details other than it being a Psylocke Mini by a Forceful Writer.

psycwave
06-21-2009, 12:45 PM
Just passing on what was posted at Millarworld by one of the Mods.

There was no details other than it being a Psylocke Mini by a Forceful Writer.

Link please.

Tazirai
06-21-2009, 12:58 PM
She has defeated him on three occasions!!! :biggrin:

And in one of those occasions, she didn't even have her telepathy!

From the Fraction interview:

IGN Comics: As you mentioned, the character who did make her return this month was Psylocke. What made you want to bring her back?

Fraction: The team is pretty masculine, and we were looking for ways to bulk up the females on the team. I think she's a great, interesting character, and what we've done with her kind of synthesizes her two histories into one person. That'll give us some cool places to go with her character in the next year. It's not quite the same Psylocke everyone has seen before. Her power-set is a little bit different. Her personality is a little bit different. She's these two synthesized Psylockes as one with bits of each combined into this one person. And she's cool. She's got a great power-set and a cool costume. She's a super-powerful woman, and we don't get enough of those.

IGN Comics: And she's a ninja. You can't really go wrong with that.

Fraction: And she's a ninja. And Asian. So it's win-win-win. Psychic ninja! Who doesn't want to write about a psychic ninja?

IGN Comics: Is she going to be playing a big role in the series right away?

Fraction: She plays a big role in issue #512. She also shows up in X-Men/Dark Avengers and going forward. I'm looking forward to her being a member of the team.

The whole interview can be found here (http://comics.ign.com/articles/996/996452p1.html).


Fraction doesn't get Psylocke at all.

I just read that crap. he was STRAIGHT talking out of his arse with that one.
He made her simpler by putting her into one resurrected body and then killing it, only to stick her back in the asian one. All the while being VAGUE about what she can really do.:rolleyes:

Tazirai
06-21-2009, 12:59 PM
British Psylocke is dead!!! :( These people need to get over it.

No. You're wrong. Her body is gone, but British Psylocke still exists. She's just in a different body.

Azure
06-21-2009, 01:39 PM
Psylocke, a four-issue miniseries beginning in November, written by Chris Yost with art by Harvey Tolibao. The storyline of the mini will flow from Psylocke’s recent appearances in Uncanny X-Men and her involvement with The Sisterhood.

Aguja
06-21-2009, 01:40 PM
Is this the truth?!? I wish it were Carey, but I will not look a gift horse in the mouth if this is legit. Yost did a very good job with Storm's mini.

psycwave
06-21-2009, 01:40 PM
Psylocke, a four-issue miniseries beginning in November, written by Chris Yost with art by Harvey Tolibao. The storyline of the mini will flow from Psylocke’s recent appearances in Uncanny X-Men and her involvement with The Sisterhood.

OMG . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. .. . . . . . . . . .. .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .YES

Peter F.
06-21-2009, 01:42 PM
It's Harvey Tolibao.

Veins for everyone!

psycwave
06-21-2009, 01:43 PM
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Daniel Mengsk
06-21-2009, 01:43 PM
Psylocke, a four-issue miniseries beginning in November, written by Chris Yost with art by Harvey Tolibao. The storyline of the mini will flow from Psylocke’s recent appearances in Uncanny X-Men and her involvement with The Sisterhood.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_hljKDuw-cxQ/SIueU3ogHaI/AAAAAAAAHdE/fzbovCFVb_E/s00/shockedCat_1.jpg

For real? Maybe in this mini she's going to kick the Sisterhoods ass for what they did to her!

psycwave
06-21-2009, 01:43 PM
It's Harvey Tolibao.

Veins for everyone!

Who is this man?!?!? What else has he done?? What can you reference!?/

Tazirai
06-21-2009, 01:44 PM
Psylocke, a four-issue miniseries beginning in November, written by Chris Yost with art by Harvey Tolibao. The storyline of the mini will flow from Psylocke’s recent appearances in Uncanny X-Men and her involvement with The Sisterhood.

Good another chance to get to see the armour again.. hopefulyl drawn properly. I like Yost, so this will be better than Fractions by leagues.

.LuckyStar.
06-21-2009, 01:44 PM
Who is this man?!?!? What else has he done?? What can you reference!?/

NEEDZ TO KNOW THIS TOO !!! Someone google him !!!

Daniel Mengsk
06-21-2009, 01:46 PM
NEEDZ TO KNOW THIS TOO !!! Someone google him !!!

Harvey Tolibao

http://marvel.com/comics/onsale/covers/1107/imann.jpg

4sake
06-21-2009, 01:48 PM
Psylocke, a four-issue miniseries beginning in November, written by Chris Yost with art by Harvey Tolibao. The storyline of the mini will flow from Psylocke’s recent appearances in Uncanny X-Men and her involvement with The Sisterhood.

Honestly I'm excited & piss off at the same time about this. Because this should have been an arc in one of the main X-books (AX or UNX). It seem like marvel put some/most of the best stories in minis where they can charge us an 1 more. But I still going to buy because I like Psylocke & want to mind out what happen to her.

.LuckyStar.
06-21-2009, 01:49 PM
This looks like Jim Cheung? LOL

psycwave
06-21-2009, 01:49 PM
Yeah I was just about to say that.
LOLOLOL

Fatguy
06-21-2009, 01:50 PM
This looks like Jim Cheung? LOL

lol that cover IS Jim Cheung.

Daniel Mengsk
06-21-2009, 01:50 PM
Honestly I'm excited & piss out at the same time about this. Because this should have been an arc in one of the main X-books (AX or UNX). It seem like marvel put some/most of the best stories in minis where they can charge us an 1 more. But I still going to buy because I like Psylocke & want to mind out what happen to her.

4sake, you're a Betsy fan too?? :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:

4sake
06-21-2009, 01:50 PM
Who is this man?!?!? What else has he done?? What can you reference!?/

http://www.comicvine.com/harvey-tolibao/26-44854/issues-cover/

Tazirai
06-21-2009, 01:50 PM
Harvey Tolibao. This man has SKILLLZ!!!!!

He recently did the Darkhawk stuff.

Here's some of his ART!! Unlike Greg Lands Tracing.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/tazirai/Bumblebee_by_harveytolibao.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/tazirai/PIRATE_LADY_by_harveytolibao.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/tazirai/id_to_by_harveytolibao.jpg

psycwave
06-21-2009, 01:52 PM
Okay so
Chris Yost + Harvey Tolibao + Psylocke = ALL OF MY MONEY!!!!

Daniel Mengsk
06-21-2009, 01:52 PM
This looks like Jim Cheung? LOL

I will NEVER trust google again! :biggrin:

Anyways, here is his art-link (I HOPE its RIGHT NOW!):

http://harveytolibao.deviantart.com/art/Avengers-Initiative-19-inks-111881832

Tazirai
06-21-2009, 01:53 PM
Okay so
Chris Yost + Harvey Tolibao + Psylocke = ALL OF MY MONEY!!!!

Tolibao>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>....












Land.

Tazirai
06-21-2009, 01:54 PM
I think I would have much rather enjoyed the sisterhood arc had he been drawing it.

Daniel Mengsk
06-21-2009, 01:55 PM
Tolibao>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>....












Land.

EDIT: Never mind.

.LuckyStar.
06-21-2009, 01:55 PM
What a great ARTIST !!! WIN WIN WIN

Hi-Fi
06-21-2009, 01:56 PM
Psylocke mini by Yost! WOOOHOOOO!

Tazirai
06-21-2009, 01:57 PM
What a great ARTIST !!! WIN WIN WIN

Bah one more for the road.

http://www.glasshousegraphics.com/creators/pencilers/harveytolibao/020407/sequencial/01_htolibao_starwars_page01.jpg


http://fc07.deviantart.com/fs8/i/2005/332/c/f/Invicible_Girl_in_Action_by_harveytolibao.jpg

psycwave
06-21-2009, 01:59 PM
OMG I Am In Love With Tolibao! I Must Go Put On My Thongkini And Armored Hood And Dance Around My House!!

4sake
06-21-2009, 02:00 PM
4sake, you're a Betsy fan too?? :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:

Yes. I like her. I even tried buying New Exiles because she was in it. But after the 1st issue I knew that wouldn't work out for me. I'm very happy the CC is no longer writing her.

peopleofpaper
06-21-2009, 02:00 PM
a Psylocke mini with opportunity to see British Betts! I die.

i hope the writer characterizes evil Betsy and gives her Psylocke's personality at least a little.

Askanipsion
06-21-2009, 02:05 PM
Psylocke mini by Yost! WOOOHOOOO!


yep!


Psylocke, a four-issue miniseries beginning in November, written by Chris Yost with art by Harvey Tolibao. The storyline of the mini will flow from Psylocke’s recent appearances in Uncanny X-Men and her involvement with The Sisterhood.

.LuckyStar.
06-21-2009, 02:07 PM
Psylocke mini by Yost! WOOOHOOOO!

I <3 YOU! You know why. lol

I hope Spiral makes an appearance!

Peter F.
06-21-2009, 02:08 PM
Harvey Tolibao on Ultimate X-men

http://img2.pict.com/65/05/10/c8a0a57e5399414d97097d39b5/pGuIE/800/ultimatexmen23093014.jpg


http://img2.pict.com/15/8c/0f/8980d82808563ef0b1e479e6f0/INy2s/1280/ultimatexmen23093020021.jpg

Daniel Mengsk
06-21-2009, 02:09 PM
Yes. I like her. I even tried buying New Exiles because she was in it. But after the 1st issue I knew that wouldn't work out for me. I'm very happy the CC is no longer writing her.

Yeah me too, but now she's in the hands of Fraction. At least the guy has promised that she will be a prominent character and not wallpaper as poor Alison.

Hi-Fi
06-21-2009, 02:09 PM
I <3 YOU! You know why. lol

I hope Spiral makes an appearance!
Have you seen the Rogue news??

Our girls are back to the front and center of things at the same time!

psycwave
06-21-2009, 02:12 PM
I wonder how many people Yost is gonna have Psylocke kill.

Peter F.
06-21-2009, 02:14 PM
http://marvel.com/i/content/st/2449new_storyimage2157121_full.jpg

.LuckyStar.
06-21-2009, 02:14 PM
Have you seen the Rogue news??

Our girls are back to the front and center of things at the same time!

Yeah!!! I loved her new costume. Can you imagine when they finally meet? <3

I wonder how many people Yost is gonna have Psylocke kill.

Beast!!!

Daniel Mengsk
06-21-2009, 02:15 PM
I wonder how many people Yost is gonna have Psylocke kill.

I have only one more. The last one. The one I'm driving to right now. The only one left. And when I arrive at my destination..... I'm gonna Kill Spiral!

theXfactor
06-21-2009, 02:16 PM
Harvey Tolibao on Ultimate X-men

http://img2.pict.com/65/05/10/c8a0a57e5399414d97097d39b5/pGuIE/800/ultimatexmen23093014.jpg


http://img2.pict.com/15/8c/0f/8980d82808563ef0b1e479e6f0/INy2s/1280/ultimatexmen23093020021.jpg

Oh my! That art is horrible! Look at all those exagerated muscles! Look at Scott's furry arm! :eek:

psycwave
06-21-2009, 02:24 PM
Yeah!!! I loved her new costume. Can you imagine when they finally meet? <3
Beast!!!

That overgrown cat is gone forever!

I have only one more. The last one. The one I'm driving to right now. The only one left. And when I arrive at my destination..... I'm gonna Kill Spiral!

Plausible. Yost had Storm kill Shadow King(who also had ties with Betts) and Cyclops. Im thinking he will have Psylocke kill Spiral and Emma!!!

lockerogue
06-21-2009, 02:29 PM
This Psylocke mini is excellent news. I am off to think and conjure her up a new costume.

Aguja
06-21-2009, 02:34 PM
I like the art. I eagerly await this.

Daniel Mengsk
06-21-2009, 02:39 PM
I like the art. I eagerly await this.

But it also means that we'll have to wait forever (no pun intended) for the preview pics! *ugh*, why november Marvel?! Why? Oh well, at least this will give me something to look forward to at the end of the year.

4sake
06-21-2009, 02:41 PM
Yeah me too, but now she's in the hands of Fraction. At least the guy has promised that she will be a prominent character and not wallpaper as poor Alison.

Yeah hopefully he will keep his promise/plan & execute it well.

psycwave
06-21-2009, 02:43 PM
There is going to be a Psylocke mini written by Yost. No matter how many times I say it I just can't stop smiling. This is going to be absolutely wonderful. His Worlds Apart for Storm was phenomenal. Tolibao really looks like he has some good traits going on. Even though that Ultimate Vein stuff is kinda fug, but im crazy excited. My mind is throbbing with all the possibilites this will entail. I cant wait.

psycwave
06-21-2009, 02:52 PM
Be sure to read Yost talk about Betsy (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=274730). Its absolutely epic!

peopleofpaper
06-21-2009, 03:37 PM
Be sure to read Yost talk about Betsy (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=274730). Its absolutely epic!

i'm glad betsy's getting recognition and being talked about like she's an asset to the marvel universe. it's great! especially when he talks about her being no nonsense. but i'm not as excited about the mini after reading this. i thought it'd be more of a sisterhood story than a ninja assassin set in Japan. and definitive psylocke for modern readers is a conflict of interest to me. reminds me of the crimson dawn mini. i'm still excited for the art most of all.

CmX
06-21-2009, 03:45 PM
Sweet! This was announced sooner than I had expected. And it's four issues! Yay!

This is Psylocke's FIRST solo mini series. Finally! AND by Yost! I am pumped.

psycwave
06-21-2009, 03:57 PM
I printed out the interview and taped it to my wall.

Where are Drey, Cgar, and metalgorgomon!?!? They need to be here to celebrate!