Psylocke Appreciation Thread

[metalgorgomon]

I think you're right. The 2000 Revolution brought many firsts...

So true.. And some of them are not good ones, including Psylocke power switch with Phoenix.
Wonder why the X-books were rebooted again soon after Revolution: Morrison New-X Men, Claremont X-Treme X-Men, Casey Uncanny X-Men.

[Phil Hunn]

So true.. And some of them are not good ones, including Psylocke power switch with Phoenix.
Wonder why the X-books were rebooted again soon after Revolution: Morrison New-X Men, Claremont X-Treme X-Men, Casey Uncanny X-Men.

I can probably hazard a guess: Claremont's jumbled status quo wasn't really one that his successors wanted to work with, so it got ditched faster than Britney Spears' therapist.

[metalgorgomon]

I can probably hazard a guess: Claremont's jumbled status quo wasn't really one that his successors wanted to work with, so it got ditched faster than Britney Spears' therapist.

Could it be that the 2001 reboots were actually had been planned beforehand to happen right after the Revolution?
I mean, Betsy broke up with Warren in X-Men #109 and several months later both were written in separated books (Betsy in X-treme and Warren In Uncanny).
Well.. we know that Betsy and Neal was not a serious thingy. Is it any possibility that the Neal-Betsy deal was just a plot device to separate Betsy and Warren (since CC wanted Betsy and Lobdel/Casey wanted to use Warren)?

[CmX]

Well.. we know that Betsy and Neal was not a serious thingy. Is it any possibility that the Neal-Betsy deal was just a plot device to separate Betsy and Warren (since CC wanted Betsy and Lobdel/Casey wanted to use Warren)?

CC has admitted to this, so yes.

[Phil Hunn]

Well.. we know that Betsy and Neal was not a serious thingy. Is it any possibility that the Neal-Betsy deal was just a plot device to separate Betsy and Warren (since CC wanted Betsy and Lobdel/Casey wanted to use Warren)?

Well, it was never intended to be a long-term thing in the first place (even when CC had control of all three characters involved), and only got elevated to that status, as CmX said, because Joe Casey wanted Warren but not Betsy, and CC wanted Betsy but not Warren.

[metalgorgomon]

Another picture of Psylocke flying/meditating in the air , after the resurrection (UXM #466, 2005/2006, art by Bachalo)

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/PsylockeUXM466FlyingMeditating.jpg


I like it better when she's is drawn without the Tk trail surrounding her when she's flying. Just her in the air..

[Phil Hunn]

Another picture of Psylocke flying/meditating in the air , after the resurrection (UXM #466, 2005/2006, art by Bachalo)

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/PsylockeUXM466FlyingMeditating.jpg


I like it better when she's is drawn without the Tk trail surrounding her when she's flying. Just her in the air..

I really didn't like that - Betsy gets treated enough like a sex-object in the real world, let alone being used as eye-candy for the Sentinel pilots...

[metalgorgomon]

I really didn't like that - Betsy gets treated enough like a sex-object in the real world, let alone being used as eye-candy for the Sentinel pilots...

The Xavier Estate was basically home to the X-Men, including Betsy. She was just doin her thing in the yard, training and practising. And she didn't let the Sentinels get to her or make her feel uncomfortable.
Those Sentinel pilots were perverts! They even pried when Rachel took showers.

[Phil Hunn]

The Xavier Estate was basically home to the X-Men, including Betsy. She was just doin her thing in the yard, training and practising. And she didn't let the Sentinels get to her or make her feel uncomfortable.

She was basically wiggling her arse for them right in front of their faces. How is that not making her into a sex object? She might as well have taken a pole outside with her so she could hang off it...

Those Sentinel pilots were perverts! They even pried when Rachel took showers.

Well, there is that, but still... Betsy did make it extremely easy for them. It's not like Rachel took showers in the gardens, is it?

[david r]

I actually really liked that panel. It's just so odd, Betsy levitating in the air. Imagine if you saw someone in real life hovering in the sky like that?

[Polaris]

Another picture of Psylocke flying/meditating in the air , after the resurrection (UXM #466, 2005/2006, art by Bachalo)

I like it better when she's is drawn without the Tk trail surrounding her when she's flying. Just her in the air..

TK Psylocke has grown on me. It's been quite a few years now too, who would've thought it would stick this long? I love the pics posted of her flying too. I just wish she'd get to do bigger power stunts now that she has mountain-smashing tk.

[metalgorgomon]

She was basically wiggling her arse for them right in front of their faces. How is that not making her into a sex object? She might as well have taken a pole outside with her so she could hang off it...

Well, there is that, but still... Betsy did make it extremely easy for them. It's not like Rachel took showers in the gardens, is it?

Ah.. I see, I think you're talking about the other panel in the same issue where she's doin an aerobic routine. Not the one that I've posted. Still.. I don't think she deliberately wiggled her arse for the pilot to see. It's a routine. If you're doing some aerobic or yoga some of the movement would require you to bend your body or something like that. Moreover, she was practically quite far from where the pilots were sitting. I tell you, the pilots were perverts. They're probably prying on every single female in the mansion. Well most men are perverts :P

I actually really liked that panel. It's just so odd, Betsy levitating in the air. Imagine if you saw someone in real life hovering in the sky like that?
Agreed. That's why I love that panel. Much better than the previous picture that I posted. And I like seeing her meditating..

TK Psylocke has grown on me. It's been quite a few years now too, who would've thought it would stick this long? I love the pics posted of her flying too. I just wish she'd get to do bigger power stunts now that she has mountain-smashing tk.
You and me both.
Actually I'm not too keen on super power TK Psylocke. But since she's given that level of power, I would like her to be written as one. Not the other way around.
Well.. She's done some interesting stuff with her power. I'll post them later..

[Affinity]

O wise Psylocke fans, what is in her future in the coming months?

[heretic]

I initially liked Asian Betsy, but my hunger for back issues soon convinced me that British Betsy was leagues better, and had cooler uses for her powers than just stabbing people in the head with them. She beat Sabretooth!

That, and British Betsy pwned her team of X-Men all by herself in a training situation. Asian Betsy would probably just have got beaten up.
I think that was more due to the post CC writers than the whole Asian thing. The plot of her appearance being warped at least in part to match her soul was in interesting idea, but Lobdell went off inot left field with the Dragon Lady thing and she was caught up in the general nerfing of the female characters.

HTG

[ibrakeforchinwe]

I never understood why she was so keen to wear that suit, considering its previous owner had tried to rape her...

Didn't Linda, Captain UK, convince her to wear it and have it altered to fit her? I don't know where my CB TPB is right now to check...

To me it makes sense, its like people who are afraid of heights have to bungee jump or something to get over their fear. With Betsy, she wore the suit of the man who tried to rape her rather than hiding and being scared of him/it.

[Tazirai]

O wise Psylocke fans, what is in her future in the coming months?

I sense more frustration.. on the fans part. We love the character, both sides of her. But the woman needs better writers, end of story.

She needs to let someone retcon, Back to the hand story. Let her solve her own history, involve the Braddock restart key, which is Jamie. Let her grow as a character. either keep the TK or give back the TP. Let her keep "some" of her warrior skills. But my god i'm getting sick of every woman in comics, waving swords, and being utter badasses in general.

Guess I miss the "feminine" side she once had, but morphed into trampishness.
In Exiles she's less trampy, I like that. And she looks less and less asian each issue. But my god fix her history.

/rant

[CmX]

Psylocke has a lot of untapped history whether casual fans believe so or not. There's so much to explore like I'd love to see a mini focusing and revealing mroe of her old life before the X-Men.

Like when she was a super model or when she was a member of STRIKE, dealing with her brother being a famous super hero and living in his shadow of sorts since she always dreamnt of being the big hero.

Her family history her parents, weren't they scientists who were killed?

We kinda saw a bit of Jamie's backstory in the Foursaken arc, but it fell flat really badly.

CC already said he's not doing anything with Betsy but looking for NEW storys, wtf why? When we already have a lot that can be dealt with. Why build and pile up more on her?

CC sucks IMO he doesn't know what he's doing and needs to let her go so he can do whatever he cares for with Cat *yawn* and Rogue *whatever* and he can creat his ultimate Psylocke exiles version.

Who knows I'm hoping New Exiles gets canned soon so she can be freed, I'm hoping this is the last ongoing title CC gets. They should just let him do one-shots and minis that don't fit into contuinity. Or cancel New Exiles and let Genext become and ongoing so he and the CC fans win.

[DDM]

She needs to let someone retcon, Back to the hand story. Let her solve her own history, involve the Braddock restart key, which is Jamie. Let her grow as a character. either keep the TK or give back the TP. Let her keep "some" of her warrior skills. But my god i'm getting sick of every woman in comics, waving swords, and being utter badasses in general.

Psylocke has grown as a character! When she was first introduced, Betsy Braddock is simply Brian's twin sister & blonde! Then Alan Moore & Alan Davis reintroduced Betsy in the 1983 revamp with Betsy now a famous international fashion model, possessing telepathy & precognative flashes, & her famous purple hair is introduced (in the backdrop of the then New Wave style) working for STRIKE, a psi-division of SHIELD. Betsy got more development in Captain Britain's second book as a supporting character when Betsy became Captain Britain to only lose her eyes to Slaymaster & almost her life! Enter Mojo & Spiral as Betsy Braddock became Psylocke & is given bionic camera eyes & eventually becomes a member of the X-Men. Chris Claremont developed Betsy to be the ultimate woman warrior as she is given her heart's desire, but betrays herself in the devil's bargain...

More recently, Psylocke's powers switched with Phoenix's. Now she's a telekinetic. And still someone's pawn.

My point is Psylocke has had plenty of development. Claremont has rid Psylocke of the Crimson Dawn & basically banished the Kwannon/Revanche crap.

Psylocke has been the most developed X-Man. The problem is too many creators have their hand in the same pot with Psylocke such as Scott Lobdell's Crimson Dawn & Fabien Nicieza's Kwannon/Revanche origin & that's where her development stagnated.

Another full on revamp would make Psylocke unrecognizable at this point (unless she somehow is reverted back into her original body & becomes a telepath again). Chris Claremont has done well ironing out the kinks from past creators' mistakes & loosening all the knots.

Guess I miss the "feminine" side she once had, but morphed into trampishness.
In Exiles she's less trampy, I like that. And she looks less and less asian each issue. But my god fix her history.

/rant

All of Chris Claremont's women are still feminine, but they also are not helpless "damsels in distress."

[The Sword Is Drawn]

I never understood why she was so keen to wear that suit, considering its previous owner had tried to rape her...

Yeah, it was certainly a bit strange. But the RCX kind of guilt-tripped her into it, on the whole Queen and Country card.

Basically, it was the only other Captain Britain suit available. However, I like the creepy undertones considering she was blinded by Slaymaster as her one & only time as Captain Britain. Betsy did not like the idea of wearing the costume either, but she was convinced by the RCX operatives since Brian disavowed being Captain Britain.

Exactly. Although, there's this part of me that was always a little disappointed that Slaymaster actually died. Hideous racial stereotype though he kind of was, he made a really good villain.

[Tazirai]

Psylocke has grown as a character! When she was first introduced, Betsy Braddock is simply Brian's twin sister & blonde! Then Alan Moore & Alan Davis reintroduced Betsy in the 1983 revamp with Betsy now a famous international fashion model, possessing telepathy & precognative flashes, & her famous purple hair is introduced (in the backdrop of the then New Wave style) working for STRIKE, a psi-division of SHIELD. Betsy got more development in Captain Britain's second book as a supporting character when Betsy became Captain Britain to only lose her eyes to Slaymaster & almost her life! Enter Mojo & Spiral as Betsy Braddock became Psylocke & is given bionic camera eyes & eventually becomes a member of the X-Men. Chris Claremont developed Betsy to be the ultimate woman warrior as she is given her heart's desire, but betrays herself in the devil's bargain...

More recently, Psylocke's powers switched with Phoenix's. Now she's a telekinetic. And still someone's pawn.

My point is Psylocke has had plenty of development. Claremont has rid Psylocke of the Crimson Dawn & basically banished the Kwannon/Revanche crap.

Psylocke has been the most developed X-Man. The problem is too many creators have their hand in the same pot with Psylocke such as Scott Lobdell's Crimson Dawn & Fabien Nicieza's Kwannon/Revanche origin & that's where her development stagnated.

Another full on revamp would make Psylocke unrecognizable at this point (unless she somehow is reverted back into her original body & becomes a telepath again). Chris Claremont has done well ironing out the kinks from past creators' mistakes & loosening all the knots.



All of Chris Claremont's women are still feminine, but they also are not helpless "damsels in distress."


This is true DDM. I think I got led astray of myself. She's had development. What I meant was that her development outside of her various powers, is lacking.

What is her purpose?
Why doesnt she try to reunite with Brian, I mean she was dead for a time, Join his team?
What are her current goals, out side of the day to day stuff?
Where does she want to go?
What about unfinished business with Mojo and Spiral?
What about the Hand? Any unfinished business there?

I dont want her helpless at all. I just want her to be not some earth shattering powerhouse. That EVERY female in the MU seems to be.
The exiles are a weird team. Everybody on the team seems to be so powerful.

Outside of the teen and kid heroines, they are all so obscenely strong. Not just the females. Hell Wolverine just survived a Nuke. WTF is that?
I think Marvel has lost all sense of sensiblity in their heroes as a whole.

Remember when the X-men, even during revolution seemed, pretty balanced and such. now every single one of them can Shatter a mountain.

[metalgorgomon]

Psylocke has a lot of untapped history whether casual fans believe so or not. There's so much to explore like I'd love to see a mini focusing and revealing mroe of her old life before the X-Men.

Like when she was a super model or when she was a member of STRIKE, dealing with her brother being a famous super hero and living in his shadow of sorts since she always dreamnt of being the big hero.

Her family history her parents, weren't they scientists who were killed?

We kinda saw a bit of Jamie's backstory in the Foursaken arc, but it fell flat really badly.


Agreed. Perhaps a Psylocke mini or solo (ala First Class) Series written by Mike Carey? Oh.. I would love that to happen.

This is true DDM. I think I got led astray of myself. She's had development. What I meant was that her development outside of her various powers, is lacking.

What is her purpose?
Why doesnt she try to reunite with Brian, I mean she was dead for a time, Join his team?
What are her current goals, out side of the day to day stuff?
Where does she want to go?
What about unfinished business with Mojo and Spiral?
What about the Hand? Any unfinished business there?

I dont want her helpless at all. I just want her to be not some earth shattering powerhouse. That EVERY female in the MU seems to be.
The exiles are a weird team. Everybody on the team seems to be so powerful.
.

Betsy’s character development (outside her power set) that I can think of since she’s been resurrected in UXM #455 (2005):

- Cause and Reasoning behind the Resurrection (UXM #472-474, First Foursaken Arc, 2006)
- Reminiscing her most traumatic experience by facing Slaymaster face to face; and try to deal with it (Exiles #90-94, Enemy of the Stars Arc, 2007)
- Decided to join with the Exiles although given the chance to go home (Die By The Sword, 2007)
- Given the second tallus and acting as the Co-Leader for the Exiles (New Exiles #1-4, 2008)

I know that’s not much of a development, but I think she’s been given quite fair amount of moments for the past three years.
The thing is we don’t know for sure how much her development in the Exiles will matter in her continuity once she got back to 616.
Her decision to stay with the Exiles was probably influenced by her thirst in adventures. Moreover, she might ‘envy’ Brian’s previous role as guardian of the omniverse. Now, along with the Exiles, she has the chance to protect the omniverse without following what Brian did with the Merlin/Roma/Saturyne’s Cap Brit Corps.

I kinda treat her tenure with the Exiles just like her days during the Australian Outback years. They were non-existence to the rest of the world but still be able to do their own thing and did some superheroes stuff.
And I know I read somewhere (probably X-Fan) that in the third arc of New Exiles (issue #7-10), Sabes won’t be included in that particular mission. So, we might actually see her leading the team just like the Australian years.

[The Sword Is Drawn]

Psylocke has a lot of untapped history whether casual fans believe so or not. There's so much to explore like I'd love to see a mini focusing and revealing mroe of her old life before the X-Men.

Like when she was a super model or when she was a member of STRIKE, dealing with her brother being a famous super hero and living in his shadow of sorts since she always dreamnt of being the big hero.

Absolutely. This is one of the main reasons I'm so screwed off that now we finally get a new Captain Britain series Psylocke isn't even in the same dimension. All these early themes and roles are a thousand times more interesting than Pslyocke: The telekinetic in the ninja swimsuit... :frown:

Her family history her parents, weren't they scientists who were killed?

Sir James Braddock wasn't from Earth. He, like Merlyn and Roma, was from Otherworld. He's as good as alien, in terms of genetics. His wife was preselected as the perfect genetic match to be a suitable mother for the very reason Sir James was dispatched by Merlyn, to Earth 616 - to bring him a new heir to replace him as Guardian. Roma was only ever the placeholder guardian, Merlyn wanted a mortal to be promoted to that role. The problem was that when mortals had been in possession of the powers of the Guardian (Been given both the Sword of Might and Amulet of Right) they drove them mad.

Merlyn charged Sir James (Who was himself a member of the Captain Britain Corps) with genetically engineering, and raising him an heir. Jamie proved unstable, but Brian eventually took on that role (Only for Claremont to pretend it never happened).

Sir James and wife were murdered, by the very machine which he had built to assist the family - The Mastermind. This machine would later try to seize control of Otherworld's power source, itself.

We kinda saw a bit of Jamie's backstory in the Foursaken arc, but it fell flat really badly.

CC already said he's not doing anything with Betsy but looking for NEW storys, wtf why? When we already have a lot that can be dealt with. Why build and pile up more on her?

Put simply, Chris Claremont does not handle other people's continuity well. It's not JUST Betsy, it's anybody he deals with. Before House of M, Brian Braddock was watching over Marvel's Multiverse, Roma had passed on, and there was a new Captain Britain, hand-picked by Brian himself. Claremont wrote two years of continuity pretending it never happened. And careless editors allowed it to

CC sucks IMO he doesn't know what he's doing and needs to let her go so he can do whatever he cares for with Cat *yawn* and Rogue *whatever* and he can creat his ultimate Psylocke exiles version.

I don't think that Claremont wholly sucks. A hell of a lot past material contradicts that. I think the problem is that when he was writing X-men for the first time he was only writing one title. There was only one title.

I honestly don't believe he reads any of the other Marvel titles, anymore, let alone the other X-books. And he's not going to wade through past continuity to find out what he may have missed. eXiles should be the perfect place for him to write his own, self-enclosed, stories. It;s just a shame Psylocke is currently stuck as part of that.

Psylocke has grown as a character! When she was first introduced, Betsy Braddock is simply Brian's twin sister & blonde! Then Alan Moore & Alan Davis reintroduced Betsy in the 1983 revamp with Betsy now a famous international fashion model, possessing telepathy & precognative flashes, & her famous purple hair is introduced (in the backdrop of the then New Wave style) working for STRIKE, a psi-division of SHIELD.

I'll have to correct you there, DDM. STRIKE were not affiliated to SHEILD. They were a completely separate entity. A British equivalent to SHEILD, certainly, and based on the same model. But while they stayed on good terms with SHEILD, they were in no way officially connected to their American counterparts.

[cgar]

it just suck that she's missing all the stuff going on in 616. She should be with her friends and family, not alternate reality characters. all the stuff thats going on in exiles really isnt going to matter. the book isnt even that popular, i know some people that thought she was still dead. wtf it annoys me that she's not part of the mainstream. saving all creation and no one knowing about. wow that great.

[metalgorgomon]

It's time for another scan :biggrin:

Since there are lots of talk about the New Mutants this week,
This time the picture was taken from her very first appearance in the USA, specifically in the New Mutants Annual #2 (by Chris Claremont and Alan Davis, 1986)

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/Psylocke-NewMutantAnnual2-WarmthWel.jpg

I love seeing the 'children' welcomed her to their home at the Xavier estate. They gave her a very warm welcome :smile:

[Phil Hunn]

Ah.. I see, I think you're talking about the other panel in the same issue where she's doin an aerobic routine. Not the one that I've posted.

Yes, that's the one I meant.


Her family history her parents, weren't they scientists who were killed?

Yes, they died in a lab explosion - while Brian was losing his virginity.

True story.

Another full on revamp would make Psylocke unrecognizable at this point (unless she somehow is reverted back into her original body & becomes a telepath again). Chris Claremont has done well ironing out the kinks from past creators' mistakes & loosening all the knots.

He might have ironed out some of the kinks from previous creators' work on Psylocke, but he's added a whole raft of new kinks.

Like... oh, let's say... the invulnerability to telepathy, which only serves to ramp up Betsy's powers beyond all reasonable levels. Not to mention that power-switch with Jean, which is STILL unexplained (yes, yes, I know he was going to explain it in an annual, but like a whole bunch of the Revolution changes, it was big enough that it warranted a place in a "Shockwave"-style arc to explain how the book had got the that point - which the B-List titles got, but not the core books).

All of Chris Claremont's women are still feminine, but they also are not helpless "damsels in distress."

Sometimes, it seems none of them have any vulnerabilities at all.

Yeah, it was certainly a bit strange. But the RCX kind of guilt-tripped her into it, on the whole Queen and Country card.

Oh, that old chestnut. Hopefully Betsy has realised that it's a crock, and won't fall for it again...

[wonderland]

Wasn't one of the reasons Psylocke went with the exiles the fact that Xavier had more xmen than he knew what to do with? That's not the case anymore..Bring her back to Legacy and let Mike Carey write the Psylocke, hopefully we all want.

[CmX]

Wasn't one of the reasons Psylocke went with the exiles the fact that Xavier had more xmen than he knew what to do with? That's not the case anymore..Bring her back to Legacy and let Mike Carey write the Psylocke, hopefully we all want.

Uh only according to CC. Now look at the condition the XMen are under...

[metalgorgomon]

Wasn't one of the reasons Psylocke went with the exiles the fact that Xavier had more xmen than he knew what to do with? That's not the case anymore..Bring her back to Legacy and let Mike Carey write the Psylocke, hopefully we all want.

That's actually one of the reasons she's staying with the Exiles.
But yeah.. considering the situation currently happened with the X-Men and The Secret Invasion in England, She actually has every reason to come home. But I think that's not going to happen soon. The most optimistic estimation time for her to come back to 616 is probably around early 2009 (issue #20 ish)

Sadly... she's missing a lot of stuff in the main Marvel universe :frown:
As much as she's going to be featured prominently in New Exiles I don't think all of them are going to matter...


On the other hand. I'm glad that she made it to the Alex Ross' Cover of Uncanny #500. She deserves to be there.
I've made an avatar out of the cover..

[The Sword Is Drawn]

Wasn't one of the reasons Psylocke went with the exiles the fact that Xavier had more xmen than he knew what to do with? That's not the case anymore..Bring her back to Legacy and let Mike Carey write the Psylocke, hopefully we all want.

No. I honestly don't see that this would make a lot of sense. There's never really been that much of a genuine connection between Xavier and Psylocke. Putting her on Adjectiveless a couple of years back would have worked, but now the book is Legacy it's a very different animal. I don't see a place for her there, either.

Like I say, time she went home. Her real home, not Westchester.

[metalgorgomon]

No. I honestly don't see that this would make a lot of sense. There's never really been that much of a genuine connection between Xavier and Psylocke. Putting her on Adjectiveless a couple of years back would have worked, but now the book is Legacy it's a very different animal. I don't see a place for her there, either.

Putting her on Legacy seems wouldn't fit, but i heard that Legacy will be going back to be Adjectiveless after 12 issues. So, we're going to see Carey's Adjectiveless in 2009. It'll be a good time for her to come back.
Let's just hope that she'll be back to 616 next year cause I don't see her coming back soon.


Like I say, time she went home. Her real home, not Westchester.

There's practically no Westchester at the moment :biggrin: . But I also would love to see her coming back to England. I know she's not going to be in the core X-book, but it'll be nice to see her in her home country.
CMIIW, but I think the mansion that the New Excalibur team used as headquarter actually belong to Betsy, isn't it?

[metalgorgomon]

Another Scan from the New Mutants Annual #2, Psylocke vs Spiral in Astral Plane.


http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/Psylocke-NewMutantAnnual2-Psylockev.jpg

[The Sword Is Drawn]

Putting her on Legacy seems wouldn't fit, but i heard that Legacy will be going back to be Adjectiveless after 12 issues. So, we're going to see Carey's Adjectiveless in 2009. It'll be a good time for her to come back.
Let's just hope that she'll be back to 616 next year cause I don't see her coming back soon.

If that were to be the case then I would love Betsy to be written by Carey. But as Legacy? No, It's not a good fit.

There's practically no Westchester at the moment :biggrin: . But I also would love to see her coming back to England. I know she's not going to be in the core X-book, but it'll be nice to see her in her home country.
CMIIW, but I think the mansion that the New Excalibur team used as headquarter actually belong to Betsy, isn't it?

Braddock Manor, currenty in ruins, was owned by all three surviving Braddocks. But, yes, New Excalibur's Dockland headquarters was on loan from Psylocke.

MI:13 are not based out of this, though.

[Phil Hunn]

If that were to be the case then I would love Betsy to be written by Carey. But as Legacy? No, It's not a good fit.

I'd love to see what Mike Carey could do with Psylocke too... as long as it didn't involve a power-change or endless high-kicks.

[wonderland]

Maybe if we're lucky, she could be the un-announced character to appear in MI:13 and CB (ignore me if its already turned out not to be her)..

I just dont like exiles..nothing that happens in that book matters..

I see the point about how Betsy wouldnt exactly fit in Legacy but surely in the flashbacks..Psylocke was prominant in some of the xmens biggest moments.

If Legacy does go back to adjectiveless and becomes a team book again..who would you like to see on a team with Psylocke?

[Tazirai]

Another Scan from the New Mutants Annual #2, Psylocke vs Spiral in Astral Plane.


http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/Psylocke-NewMutantAnnual2-Psylockev.jpg

They need a rematch me thinks. :biggrin:

[jarrod]

If Legacy does go back to adjectiveless and becomes a team book again..who would you like to see on a team with Psylocke?
I don't care, so long as she has a 3-way with Sam and Bobby.

Actually, I do care... Rogue, Nightcrawler, Psylocke, Iceman, Cannonball, Northstar, Gambit & Husk plz!

[CmX]

I'd love to see what Mike Carey could do with Psylocke too... as long as it didn't involve a power-change or endless high-kicks.

It's not CC here, with unexplained bullshit like power swaps and half assed resurrections.

And the only power change I'd ever approve of would be reverting her to a telepath like she should be.

[wonderland]

I don't care, so long as she has a 3-way with Sam and Bobby.

Actually, I do care... Rogue, Nightcrawler, Psylocke, Iceman, Cannonball, Northstar, Gambit & Husk plz!

Nice team...although i'd replace Northstar with Sunfire as him and Gambit seem to be Bff's nowadays.. :smile:

[cgar]

I don't care, so long as she has a 3-way with Sam and Bobby.

Actually, I do care... Rogue, Nightcrawler, Psylocke, Iceman, Cannonball, Northstar, Gambit & Husk plz!


Rogue, Psylocke, Cannonball, Gambit and Iceman so need to be on a team together

[Flameworthy]

Nice team...although i'd replace Northstar with Sunfire as him and Gambit seem to be Bff's nowadays.. :smile:

Ooh and replace Husk with Revanche and that team would be the bee's knees. I would be weary about Carey writing Sunfire again though. He didn't do such a good job the first time around.

[The Sword Is Drawn]

Maybe if we're lucky, she could be the un-announced character to appear in MI:13 and CB (ignore me if its already turned out not to be her)..

It's not launched yet. #1 comes out after Secret Invasion #2. We won't know until after the first arc.

Although, from a recent podcast interview I heard, with Cornell, I get a vibe that it might be a certain British vampire hunter? Don't quote me mind. It'll probably turn out to be Ka-Zar, now.

[metalgorgomon]

Maybe if we're lucky, she could be the un-announced character to appear in MI:13 and CB (ignore me if its already turned out not to be her)..


It's not launched yet. #1 comes out after Secret Invasion #2. We won't know until after the first arc.

Although, from a recent podcast interview I heard, with Cornell, I get a vibe that it might be a certain British vampire hunter? Don't quote me mind. It'll probably turn out to be Ka-Zar, now.

I'd be lovely if Betsy is the un-annouced character in CB & MI:13. But as TSID have said, it's quite unlikely to happen. At least for now..


If Legacy does go back to adjectiveless and becomes a team book again..who would you like to see on a team with Psylocke?

I don't care, so long as she has a 3-way with Sam and Bobby.

Actually, I do care... Rogue, Nightcrawler, Psylocke, Iceman, Cannonball, Northstar, Gambit & Husk plz!

Rogue-Cannonball-Iceman would be a must. Not too fond of Gambit and Rogue in the same team though. Same as Betsy and Husk. I would also put in Beast, Northstar and Aurora. I want to see Northstar and Aurora in a team together (ala X-Men Annual #1, 2007, by Carey). I think Carey will do them justice.

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/X-MenAnnualcover.jpg

So the team would be:
- Psylocke
- Rogue
- Cannonball
- Iceman
- Beast
- Northstar & Aurora

[wonderland]

In my excitement i didnt post my team..

Psylocke (welcomed back to the 616)
Rogue-Iceman-Cannonball (original members of the previous team)
Gambit-Sunfire (returning outsiders)
Mercury-Prodigy (new blood)
Xavier-Omega Sentinel (Legacy characters)
Husk (un-limbo'd)

Bring on the astonishing and uncanny teams! lol

[cgar]

so whats going on with Psylocke in New Exiles, and what was up with that kiss. anything new with her. she's my fave character but i cannot deal with CC taking her away from 616

[metalgorgomon]

so whats going on with Psylocke in New Exiles, and what was up with that kiss. anything new with her. she's my fave character but i cannot deal with CC taking her away from 616

That kiss with Sabes was probably nothing (at least for now). Creed was the one who kissed her while he's still under Bloodwitch spell.

She has a new costume that was designed by Tom Grummet.
No thong. Pants with a Top (sort of like bustier). Now she's wearing an armband tallus since she appears to be undetectable by the Crystal Palace Computer.
Personally I like the costume. At least she's wearing pants now.

Here's a panel of her and the Black Panther from New Exiles #4

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/PsylockevsBlackPanther-NEX4.jpg

[metalgorgomon]

Actually I’m not very good in giving summaries or synopsis, but I’ll try to give (for those who don't read New Exiles) heads up on Psylocke in New Exiles. I’m not going to summarize the issue, but just giving information about Psylocke on each issue. Here it goes:

Psylocke in New Exiles #1
http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/New%20Exiles%20Pictures/Psylocke-FlyingDance-NEX1.jpg


Psylocke explored the crystal palace (apparently still in the Hand Ninja thong costume), getting familiar with the place.
While doing it, she questioned a lot about alternate realities and of course the alternate characters. Among them are Sabertooth (from AOA-Earth 295) and Mystiq (Earth 797).


http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/New%20Exiles%20Pictures/NEX1p17.jpg

There’re probably some future romance plots involving Betsy and that comes from Sabertooth and Mystiq. Creed seems to show some interest in Betsy since Exiles #100, and this continues in this issue.
Mystiq asked Psylocke to join him on a chess game, and later ask whether she would like to dance. Betsy thought that Mystiq might be flirting with her, but replied the request by challenging Mystiq to find the venue and orchestra for another time.

Later on, after giving some a briefing about their next mission, Sabertooth gave Betsy a new costume, but importantly gave her a personal tallus so the palace’s computer can detect her. I already gave the description of her new costume in my previous post.
Betsy along with Sabertooth, Rogue, and Mystiq went to the destined world (Earth 6706) only to be welcomed by an explosive attack.

[sneggz]

Just to gage this thread, how ticked would you be if Psylocke comes back to earth 616, with AoA Sabretooth in tow? I know Logan would be pissed. I think it'd be kinda funny actually.

[wonderland]

Just to gage this thread, how ticked would you be if Psylocke comes back to earth 616, with AoA Sabretooth in tow? I know Logan would be pissed. I think it'd be kinda funny actually.

It would be great to get Betsy back into the 616 universe again but id be extremely ticked if anything from Exiles came with her..Look at 'Die by the Sword' It was terrible and i like Cpt Britain, Psylocke, Jaspers, Wisdom etc but Exiles just makes me :frown:

Having said all that, id bite my tongue and except it if it meant getting Psylocke back, then hope that AoA Sabertooth was quickly disposed of..:biggrin:

[Tazirai]

It would be great to get Betsy back into the 616 universe again but id be extremely ticked if anything from Exiles came with her..Look at 'Die by the Sword' It was terrible and i like Cpt Britain, Psylocke, Jaspers, Wisdom etc but Exiles just makes me :frown:

Having said all that, id bite my tongue and except it if it meant getting Psylocke back, then hope that AoA Sabertooth was quickly disposed of..:biggrin:

Im with you on that one. Exiles was good when it started. but shoulda been a series of Mini-series format books. Like Agents of hate.

[Phil Hunn]

It's not CC here, with unexplained bullshit like power swaps and half assed resurrections.

Hey now, be fair - it's not like CC is the only comics writer to ever do bad resurrections. Look at Whedon's inane resurrection of Colossus (to do nothing except give Kitty the big O), or the idiotic, poorly-explained and tremendously clumsy resurrection of Norman Osborn, for instance.

And the only power change I'd ever approve of would be reverting her to a telepath like she should be.

Eh, at this point I think it's just easier to keep her a telekinetic. She seems to like it, after all...

[cgar]

she's had telepathy since her brother brought her back.............................................. .......................she just doesn't know it yet lol

[sneggz]

It would be great to get Betsy back into the 616 universe again but id be extremely ticked if anything from Exiles came with her..Look at 'Die by the Sword' It was terrible and i like Cpt Britain, Psylocke, Jaspers, Wisdom etc but Exiles just makes me :frown:

Having said all that, id bite my tongue and except it if it meant getting Psylocke back, then hope that AoA Sabertooth was quickly disposed of..:biggrin:

to be fair, i lump the die by the sword debacle with excalibur. god, what was up with that book?

[The Sword Is Drawn]

to be fair, i lump the die by the sword debacle with excalibur. god, what was up with that book?

Put plain and simple Claremont was told he was off New Excalibur and he took any of the alternate universe stuff he liked over to New eXiles - hacking away at the Captain Britain Mythos crudely, and somewhat oddly naively as he did.

It all stems from the bloody great continuity error Claremont created during House of M, and the number of off-shoots from that, which he spent two years trying to pretend either weren't errors or ignoring them and boldly (blindly?) striding on regardless...

[wonderland]

Put plain and simple Claremont was told he was off New Excalibur and he took any of the alternate universe stuff he liked over to New eXiles - hacking away at the Captain Britain Mythos crudely, and somewhat oddly naively as he did.

It all stems from the bloody great continuity error Claremont created during House of M, and the number of off-shoots from that, which he spent two years trying to pretend either weren't errors or ignoring them and boldly (blindly?) striding on regardless...

Claremont doesn't play nice with wider continuity, probably why Marvel gave him Exiles, his free to do whatever he wants..BUT WHY have they let him keep a character like Psylocke(who was beating icons like Lara Croft in polls) who is slowly drifting into oblivion...Ok i might be exagerating abit but with new readers coming into the MU thanks to events like messiah complex and Secret Invasion...she's off on a big field trip.:rolleyes:

[metalgorgomon]

Claremont doesn't play nice with wider continuity, probably why Marvel gave him Exiles, his free to do whatever he wants..BUT WHY have they let him keep a character like Psylocke(who was beating icons like Lara Croft in polls) who is slowly drifting into oblivion...Ok i might be exagerating abit but with new readers coming into the MU thanks to events like messiah complex and Secret Invasion...she's off on a big field trip.:rolleyes:

Regarding the poll.. I actually followed the IGN Battle of Comic Book Babe 2006, and Psylocke was the IGN Comics' Ultimate Babe '06.


Hundreds of thousands of votes were tallied throughout our month-long competition as the ladies battled for the coveted title of IGN Comics' Ultimate Babe 2006. Emma Frost, last year's winner, seemed set for another victory. Surprisingly, she fell. The final battle pitted Lara Croft vs. Psylocke. It wasn't close.

She won by 64-36
Here's the link about the article:
http://comics.ign.com/articles/714/714757p13.html

Guess there're still quite a number of her fans out there. And I tend to agree with you that it's just too bad that she's wasted in the Exiles. Moreover, the X-Books have been quite in the spotlight for this past year. And she's not even there...

[Domo Goddess]

A couple more Betsy vs. my favorite Russian pics.

http://www.freewebs.com/gillesderais1/1BetsyvsArkadyA.jpg

http://www.freewebs.com/gillesderais1/1BetsyvsArkadyB.jpg

http://www.freewebs.com/gillesderais1/19Betsy1.jpg

I'm hoping to order X-Men Mutant Genesis soon.

[CmX]

I really enjoyed Kubert's rendition of Psylocke a lot. I liked how he drew her psychic knife as well.

Sadly he's an artist I think was better way back then, then he is now.

[wonderland]

I really enjoyed Kubert's rendition of Psylocke a lot. I liked how he drew her psychic knife as well.

Sadly he's an artist I think was better way back then, then he is now.

I like the art too...i sometimes wonder how comic art from then would look if it was inked and coloured like it is now...Better? Worse?

[Phil Hunn]

I really enjoyed Kubert's rendition of Psylocke a lot. I liked how he drew her psychic knife as well.

Sadly he's an artist I think was better way back then, then he is now.

I think it's hilarious how, in those pics, Psylocke apparently expected to be protected from the Siberian cold by just a tiny jacket.

When she's wandering around with no underpants on. Oops.

[metalgorgomon]

I like the idea of Psylocke joining the Excalibur

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/UXM463p21.jpg

Although that is not the Excalibur, but Brian, Meggan, Rachel and Betsy together sounds like a great team.

And I really like the dragon costume Betsy wore during the HOM. Was it Davis that designed the costume? I also like how Bachalo drew it.

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/PsylockeHOMBachaloUXM464-1.jpg

Hail to our princess Elisabeth Gloriana Braddock!

[wonderland]

The Dragon costume was great, its a shame it didnt become her normal outfit...I have to admit, i quite enjoyed HOM uncanny xmen.

[CmX]

Yeah Davis is the one who designed it. I LOVED that costume it's just awesome! It's such a shame that it wasn't kept, I even like it more than her new Exiles' outfit.

I'd love to see it return. Larroca drew her in it when she made cameos in Milligan's X-Men run, but other than that we've never seen her wear it again.

[The Sword Is Drawn]

I like the idea of Psylocke joining the Excalibur

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/UXM463p21.jpg

Although that is not the Excalibur, but Brian, Meggan, Rachel and Betsy together sounds like a great team.

She was an interim member during Excalibur vol 2, along with the Black Knight. I always wished they'd bring her on full-time. It'd make such a lot more sense.

[metalgorgomon]

She was an interim member during Excalibur vol 2, along with the Black Knight. I always wished they'd bring her on full-time. It'd make such a lot more sense.

I take it that you're talking bout Excalibur: The Sword Of Power mini series, right?

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/ExcaliburSwordofPower1.jpg

I don't think she became Excalibur interim member, she's just visiting/helping Brian with the Otherworld stuff. And she appreared in only four issues. Too bad that she never become an active member of Excalibur. Hell.. even Dazzler, Sage, Nocturne and Juggernaut were members of (New) Excalibur. Betsy would be a more appropriate member than any of them.

[Tazirai]

I think it's hilarious how, in those pics, Psylocke apparently expected to be protected from the Siberian cold by just a tiny jacket.

When she's wandering around with no underpants on. Oops.


That's one of the things that erked me about the nimbo. EVERYTHING was done with sex appeal in mind. The two pics above show it.

When she returned I would've loved to see her in this.

With lavender/purple and pink.

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/b/bc/Sage_005.jpeg

[Anon_me]

I think it's hilarious how, in those pics, Psylocke apparently expected to be protected from the Siberian cold by just a tiny jacket.

When she's wandering around with no underpants on. Oops.

It's because ninja Psylocke is so hot that that temperatures as mundane as those one find in a Siberian winter are of no detterent to her; she only wore that jacket to enhance her bossoms by showing how much of them we can see even with the jacket on (and to make Jubilee feel small and insignificant in comparison due to her boyish figure). =p

[jarrod]

The Davis dragon lady design was interesting, but I never really liked it. Just seemed kind of impractical and overly complicated... though I guess Besty's crevices were happy to get some relief.

His Marvel Girl/Phoenix dress was perfect though... really sad that Ray went immediately back to the skank crop top/miniskirt outfit Jean left her. :/

[metalgorgomon]

Yeah Davis is the one who designed it. I LOVED that costume it's just awesome! It's such a shame that it wasn't kept, I even like it more than her new Exiles' outfit.

I'd love to see it return. Larroca drew her in it when she made cameos in Milligan's X-Men run, but other than that we've never seen her wear it again.

I also loved the her HOM costume.The Dragon costume was my Top 2 favorite Psylocke's costume along with the Australian-Armor one. Do you know which X-men issues Larocca drew her in that costume?

That's one of the things that erked me about the nimbo. EVERYTHING was done with sex appeal in mind. The two pics above show it.

When she returned I would've loved to see her in this.

With lavender/purple and pink.

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/b/bc/Sage_005.jpeg

I don't want Betsy's costume based on anything that has been worn by Sage :biggrin: Maybe if they could redesigned it a bit and put in different colors.. it might actually work for Psylocke.

IMO a little sex appeal is alrite. I actually like the Ninja/Hand costume. But she's been sporting that outfit for too long. And I have to agree that writers/artist tend to make her into sex object during her days in that costume.

[Tazirai]

I also loved the her HOM costume.The Dragon costume was my Top 2 favorite Psylocke's costume along with the Australian-Armor one. Do you know which X-men issues Larocca drew her in that costume?



I don't want Betsy's costume based on anything that has been worn by Sage :biggrin: Maybe if they could redesigned it a bit and put in different colors.. it might actually work for Psylocke.

IMO a little sex appeal is alrite. I actually like the Ninja/Hand costume. But she's been sporting that outfit for too long. And I have to agree that writers/artist tend to make her into sex object during her days in that costume.

The Armour is my fav by far. It made her look sexy, in an evil sort of way.:biggrin:
But that Outfit sage wore.. I'll try to scan one in and edit it to look like something Betsy would wear.

[Anon_me]

The armour is my favourite when she was physcially "weak" but I like this costume when she's all ninja (which is sort of reminiscent of that Sage outfit).

http://www.sionglewis.com/postings/psylocke-bigcostume7.jpg

[wonderland]

The time is here people:smile: ...If they can bring ArchAngel back, who has more history with Warren Worthington. I know their time has come and gone but what a perfect opportunity to bring Psy' back. I think Betsy would be a pretty good fit in xforce now i think about it.

[Tazirai]

The armour is my favourite when she was physcially "weak" but I like this costume when she's all ninja (which is sort of reminiscent of that Sage outfit).

http://www.sionglewis.com/postings/psylocke-bigcostume7.jpg

Revolution outfit wasnt that bad...

If they woulda added some lavender/purple to it, and kept her hair purple. It woulda been hella nice.

[Tazirai]

A GREAT Alan Davis pic I found

http://www.comicartfans.com/Images/Category_5884/subcat_26579/Alan%20Davis%20-%20Psylocke.jpg

[DDM]

A GREAT Alan Davis pic I found

http://www.comicartfans.com/Images/Category_5884/subcat_26579/Alan%20Davis%20-%20Psylocke.jpg

Pretty! :smile:

[cgar]

"Psylocke finds herself in the far east, where echoes of her past on her own Earth leave her reeling"

hopefully this means she will go back to 616 soon

[DDM]

"Psylocke finds herself in the far east, where echoes of her past on her own Earth leave her reeling"

hopefully this means she will go back to 616 soon

Not exactly. Psylocke is going to encounter & fight Lady Mandarin.

[cgar]

yah i know i was being you know hopeful, optimistic...right? understand. buzzkill

but anyways if she misses 616 she should go back

[metalgorgomon]

The armour is my favourite when she was physcially "weak" but I like this costume when she's all ninja (which is sort of reminiscent of that Sage outfit).

http://www.sionglewis.com/postings/psylocke-bigcostume7.jpg

I think the revo outfit looked different from Sage's. They have similiar color scheme, but the design's quite different. The Grumment costume looked more like the revo one. Minus the scarf and the head band.

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/PsylockeJuly2008.jpg


The time is here people:smile: ...If they can bring ArchAngel back, who has more history with Warren Worthington. I know their time has come and gone but what a perfect opportunity to bring Psy' back. I think Betsy would be a pretty good fit in xforce now i think about it.

X-Force seems like a good fit for Psylocke. And I'm all for Archangel & Psylocke together..

The New Exiles #8 solicit does have interesting information on Betsy..

[Tazirai]

Shelley on comic art fan, did this work up of Psylocke as the Phoenix.

http://www.comicartfans.com/Images/Category_14402/subcat_40136/Psylocke%20as%20The%20Phoenix.jpg

[metalgorgomon]

^ Nice art.. At first I thought it was just Jean with purple hair. But when I look closely.. yeah.. It's Phoenix Betsy alright.. :biggrin:

[Tazirai]

Makin a killin tonight

IMHO this is how the "Warrior/Tiger within" shoulda been portrayed.
Maybe a little less armor, no Katana, Great or short sword all the way.
Fits the British Knight motif all the way.


http://www.comicartfans.com/Images/Category_9906/subcat_37953/PsylockeMoy.jpg

[Phil Hunn]

That's one of the things that erked me about the nimbo. EVERYTHING was done with sex appeal in mind. The two pics above show it.

It's not funny because it's true. The character was hopelessly warped by this endless hunt for sex-appeal, and she still hasn't recovered :frown:

[wonderland]

It's not funny because it's true. The character was hopelessly warped by this endless hunt for sex-appeal, and she still hasn't recovered :frown:

I didnt really start reading xmen until the warping was already underway, so the sex-appeal angle of Psylocke doesn't really bother me that much. She isnt the only character marvel have done this too..
I think she's just stuck in limbo with a writer who despite writing brilliant stories in the past just isnt doing it anymore.. Psylocke's recovery to prominence as an important character needs her to be in the hands of a different writer..Carey, Yost etc.

[DDM]

I didnt really start reading xmen until the warping was already underway, so the sex-appeal angle of Psylocke doesn't really bother me that much. She isnt the only character marvel have done this too..
I think she's just stuck in limbo with a writer who despite writing brilliant stories in the past just isnt doing it anymore.. Psylocke's recovery to prominence as an important character needs her to be in the hands of a different writer..Carey, Yost etc.

Chris Claremont "gets" Psylocke. All you have to do is read her appearances in Uncanny X-Men #213-251 (pre-ninja), Uncanny X-Men #256-278 (post-ninja), The New Mutants Annual #2 (Betsy's first American appearance), & Uncanny X-Men Annuals #10-12, & Annual #14. Chris has done quite a lot in repairing her character assignation by other creators (Fabien Nincieza & Scott Lobdell specificially).

[metalgorgomon]

Makin a killin tonight

IMHO this is how the "Warrior/Tiger within" shoulda been portrayed.
Maybe a little less armor, no Katana, Great or short sword all the way.
Fits the British Knight motif all the way.


http://www.comicartfans.com/Images/Category_9906/subcat_37953/PsylockeMoy.jpg

That'a a very lovely art. But too many similarites with the australian armor Psylocke.
The thing is, Betsy has been portrayed as Asian for so long. Even her iconic is the Asian/Ninja thing. IMO, her costume, should have both British and Asian motives.

Asian Woman Warrior example. (model: Maggie Q)
http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/MaggieQThreeKingdoms2.jpg

I also would love Psylocke to use double short swords. I'm not a fan of the TK Katana. I think Tk katana/knife should work differently than TP Katana/Knife.

I also love this one:

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/MaggieQ6.jpg

Replace the pingpong bat :biggrin: with two short swords, change the colors and flower for a more british look, and we may have a great costume for her.

[heretic]

Chris Claremont "gets" Psylocke. All you have to do is read her appearances in Uncanny X-Men #213-251 (pre-ninja), Uncanny X-Men #256-278 (post-ninja), The New Mutants Annual #2 (Betsy's first American appearance), & Uncanny X-Men Annuals #10-12, & Annual #14. Chris has done quite a lot in repairing her character assignation by other creators (Fabien Nincieza & Scott Lobdell specificially).Ayup. I see a lot of Executive Meddling in the things that are oft blamed on him (he was planning on making Betsy white again in X-treme after a rather shorter death, but it was vetoed).

The 'Nimbo' bit started out interesting, but Scott and Fabe went with the surface Jim Lee developed and ran with it in another direction.

HTG

[wonderland]

Ive just seen a psylocke picture that Clayton Crain did on his website..I think its an old one but it convinced me even more she should at least appear in xforce even as just a guest star.

[metalgorgomon]

Ive just seen a psylocke picture that Clayton Crain did on his website..I think its an old one but it convinced me even more she should at least appear in xforce even as just a guest star.

I just saw it too.. might as well have it here:

http://fc02.deviantart.com/fs10/i/2006/119/d/c/Psylocke_by_HeyCat.jpg

It's just too good to be true, if she's indeed coming back to 616... Not to mention joining Archangel in X-Force..

[wonderland]

I just saw it too.. might as well have it here:

http://fc02.deviantart.com/fs10/i/2006/119/d/c/Psylocke_by_HeyCat.jpg

It's just too good to be true, if she's indeed coming back to 616... Not to mention joining Archangel in X-Force..

Thats the one...As NPH would say Legen...wait for it...dary!

It gives hope at the very least:biggrin:

[Phil Hunn]

I also love this one:

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/MaggieQ6.jpg

Replace the pingpong bat :biggrin: with two short swords, change the colors and flower for a more british look, and we may have a great costume for her.

Hey, I think a TK ping-pong bat could be neat :biggrin:

That's a great costume, though. Could be cool seeing Betsy in something like that, although her current costume is actually really refreshing...

[Sindel]

i don't think maggie q could pulll off the purple hair colour.

[DDM]

Ayup. I see a lot of Executive Meddling in the things that are oft blamed on him (he was planning on making Betsy white again in X-treme after a rather shorter death, but it was vetoed).

The 'Nimbo' bit started out interesting, but Scott and Fabe went with the surface Jim Lee developed and ran with it in another direction.

HTG

...And return Betsy back to being a powerful telepath since she was meant to be Elias Bogan's slave instead of Rachel Summers...

[Tazirai]

...And return Betsy back to being a powerful telepath since she was meant to be Elias Bogan's slave instead of Rachel Summers...

I would love for her to either be a more Powerful Telepath. She doesn't need to lose much of her fighting skills. But she needs to go back to being tactical if she goes this route. Pick and choose her victims, instead of "Action junkie" rushing them.

If she stays Telekinetic. Give her more finesse over her skills. She should use her tk not how Jean did. But let there be some similarity. Particularly for Menial things. Once a fight start. Be tactical. pick and choose and eliminate.

As the "physically weak" Telepath she was more of a ninja than she is now. She used stealth, illusion, domination, cunning, and raw power to get the job done. She should be a damn expert at being a ninja.

[Anon_me]

Hey, I think a TK ping-pong bat could be neat :biggrin:

That's a great costume, though. Could be cool seeing Betsy in something like that, although her current costume is actually really refreshing...

I just wish the top wasn't a bustier and that she wore flats instead of heels or at least shorter heels; those two things just really bug me about her current outfit.

[metalgorgomon]

i don't think maggie q could pulll off the purple hair colour.

I dont think that many actresses can pull of purple hair. But Betsy's purple isn't bright purple. It's sort of dark purple and IMO if an artist is to act as Psylocke she doesn’t have to sport a full purple hair. Having purple streaks would be alrite, i think. Kate Beckinsale (hope i spell her name right) is my first choice of playing British Betsy and Maggie Q is my first choice for Ninja Betsy (she's Polish-American-Chinese btw)

Princess Elisabeth Gloriana (Uncanny X-Men, HOM)
http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/Psylocke-XM463.jpg


Maggie Q, in Mission Impossible:3
http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/MaggieQ2.jpg

I just wish the top wasn't a bustier and that she wore flats instead of heels or at least shorter heels; those two things just really bug me about her current outfit.

I like Grummet’s costume design for Betsy.I don’t mind bout the bustier, but I agree with the heels. I preferred flat shoes instead of heels. And I also preferred the gloves she had in HOM costume (or the Hand one) rather than the one she has now.
I wonder if she’s to join X-Force what kind of costume will she be wearing? I’m thinking something like a full body suit ninja. I think Clayton Crain will design something very cool for her.

[DDM]

I would love for her to either be a more Powerful Telepath. She doesn't need to lose much of her fighting skills. But she needs to go back to being tactical if she goes this route. Pick and choose her victims, instead of "Action junkie" rushing them.

If she stays Telekinetic. Give her more finesse over her skills. She should use her tk not how Jean did. But let there be some similarity. Particularly for Menial things. Once a fight start. Be tactical. pick and choose and eliminate.

As the "physically weak" Telepath she was more of a ninja than she is now. She used stealth, illusion, domination, cunning, and raw power to get the job done. She should be a damn expert at being a ninja.

I meant Betsy's return to her previous power set. Chris Claremont--along with Alan Moore & Jamie Delano--has always depicted Psylocke as a powerful telepath.

I would still like to see Betsy's time as ninja learned & she is more of a action junkie too; she thrills being in combat which can make her a danger to her foes & teammates alike. Betsy is still human & makes mistakes. Betsy believes since she is the ultimate woman warrior she cannot make anymore mistakes. She's wrong. She just makes different mistakes.

I still think Chris Claremont has a long term plan for Betsy. So I would not write her telekinesis off just yet...

[Tazirai]

I dont think that many actresses can pull of purple hair. But Betsy's purple isn't bright purple. It's sort of dark purple and IMO if an artist is to act as Psylocke she doesn’t have to sport a full purple hair. Having purple streaks would be alrite, i think. Kate Beckinsale (hope i spell her name right) is my first choice of playing British Betsy and Maggie Q is my first choice for Ninja Betsy (she's Polish-American-Chinese btw)

Princess Elisabeth Gloriana (Uncanny X-Men, HOM)
http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/Psylocke-XM463.jpg


Maggie Q, in Mission Impossible:3
http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/MaggieQ2.jpg



I like Grummet’s costume design for Betsy.I don’t mind bout the bustier, but I agree with the heels. I preferred flat shoes instead of heels. And I also preferred the gloves she had in HOM costume (or the Hand one) rather than the one she has now.
I wonder if she’s to join X-Force what kind of costume will she be wearing? I’m thinking something like a full body suit ninja. I think Clayton Crain will design something very cool for her.


Kate Beckinsale as British Psylocke.



So i gots to thinkin. I found a bada$$ picture of Kate Beckinsale online yesterday to post in The Transfromers movie thread.
Then I got inspired, so I took this pic.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/tazirai/Kate_Beckinsale_wallpa.jpg

And turned it into this.
My crappy photoshop skills at work ^^
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/tazirai/Katelocke.jpg

[Shade101]

Makin a killin tonight

IMHO this is how the "Warrior/Tiger within" shoulda been portrayed.
Maybe a little less armor, no Katana, Great or short sword all the way.
Fits the British Knight motif all the way.


http://www.comicartfans.com/Images/Category_9906/subcat_37953/PsylockeMoy.jpg

I always did kind of like Psylocke in that armor. It made me think of a medieval type of design back in the medieval times of Europe. At first when I saw her in it, I wasn't so sure about it. But it actually looks pretty nice on her. I also like the sword she's carrying in that picture. Gives it an even more European feel. I like Japanese Psylocke too. But the more and more I read about British Psylocke, the more and more I like the British version better. And did you draw this pic Tazirai? If so you're very talented!

And don't worry Metalgorogomon. I'm still going to draw Psylocke in evening wear.:biggrin:

[metalgorgomon]

I always did kind of like Psylocke in that armor. It made me think of a medieval type of design back in the medieval times of Europe. At first when I saw her in it, I wasn't so sure about it. But it actually looks pretty nice on her. I also like the sword she's carrying in that picture. Gives it an even more European feel. I like Japanese Psylocke too. But the more and more I read about British Psylocke, the more and more I like the British version better. And did you draw this pic Tazirai? If so you're very talented!

And don't worry Metalgorogomon. I'm still going to draw Psylocke in evening wear.:biggrin:

Happy that you still remember :biggrin: I loved those Storm sketches that you've posted in her thread.

I also would like to see the colored version of Tazirai's sketch. I hope you can post it, Taz.. I think i'd be great..

[Shade101]

Happy that you still remember :biggrin: I loved those Storm sketches that you've posted in her thread.

I also would like to see the colored version of Tazirai's sketch. I hope you can post it, Taz.. I think i'd be great..

I might even draw a sketch for a new Psylocke costume design!

[metalgorgomon]

I might even draw a sketch for a new Psylocke costume design!

Can't wait for it! Wonder which version you will draw..

[Tazirai]

I always did kind of like Psylocke in that armor. It made me think of a medieval type of design back in the medieval times of Europe. At first when I saw her in it, I wasn't so sure about it. But it actually looks pretty nice on her. I also like the sword she's carrying in that picture. Gives it an even more European feel. I like Japanese Psylocke too. But the more and more I read about British Psylocke, the more and more I like the British version better. And did you draw this pic Tazirai? If so you're very talented!

And don't worry Metalgorogomon. I'm still going to draw Psylocke in evening wear.:biggrin:

I didnt draw it. But I will color it tonight and post it for ya. :biggrin:

[CmX]

Can we use links? These pics are huge and it doesn't help that people quote them on top of that so it appears like 10 times on a page.

[Phil Hunn]

...And return Betsy back to being a powerful telepath since she was meant to be Elias Bogan's slave instead of Rachel Summers...

I'm actually glad she didn't turn up in that guise. Rachel Summers is, after all, the one who's supposed to get enslaved at every turn, not Betsy :tongue:

As the "physically weak" Telepath she was more of a ninja than she is now. She used stealth, illusion, domination, cunning, and raw power to get the job done. She should be a damn expert at being a ninja.

You'd think. But apparently being a action junkie means that she has to throw herself stomach-first at bad guys so they can disembowel her :frown:

I just wish the top wasn't a bustier and that she wore flats instead of heels or at least shorter heels; those two things just really bug me about her current outfit.

Superheroines wearing high heels to fight in? Well I never :wink:

Seriously, that bugs me sometimes, too. Which is why I like the Black Widow's costume more (or at least the version of it she wore in the 90s, which I'm sure didn't have heels).

[CmX]

I kinda like the heels.. it makes her look a bit more feminine and besides who cares about it not being practicular during a fight, it's a freak'n comic book.

[Anon_me]

For me, as a character, Betsy wouldn't wear heels if she wants to get into the thick of the action and to be honest, heels just doesn't jive with me in her female warrior persona; heels fit when she was less physcially aggressive but not now. Some female characters would almost always be in heels; a la Emma but I don't see heels and Betsy's personality going together.

[DDM]

I'm actually glad she didn't turn up in that guise. Rachel Summers is, after all, the one who's supposed to get enslaved at every turn, not Betsy :tongue:

Betsy gets enslaved just about as much as Rachel:


Mojo turns Betsy into his personal slave giving her bionic camera eyes that merges her soul with Mojo's; therefore, her eyes are link to Mojo in every way. It's actually quite a deplorable violation since he knows Betsy's thoughts, feelings, & sees everything she does all for profit! Mojo turned Betsy into a star, yet she has no idea the secret behind her bionic eyes from The New Mutants Annual #2 & Uncanny X-Men Annual #10 (reveals the secret to the reader behind Betsy's bionic eyes). Betsy keeps her secret from the X-Men, although Doug Ramsey & Warlock know the truth.
Betsy turns against the X-Men when the mutant Brood girl uses her pheramones against Rogue & she in Uncanny X-Men #232-234.
Psylocke & all of the other X-Men--save Colossus--are transformed by the Goblin Queen's Inferno in Uncanny X-Men #240-243 & X-Factor #38-39; they degerate into twisted versions of the themselves slowly so it's not obvious until Uncanny X-Men #241-242.
Betsy is easily manipulated by the mutant Nanny--who she believes to be a robot since her telepathy fails to spot Nanny--but learns too late as she falls under Nanny's spell thanks to her pixie dust in Uncanny X-Men #248; Psylocke uses her telepathy to brainwash Colossus & Storm. Colossus falls, but Storm does not leading to her "death."
Psylocke becomes a pawn of the Hand as they transform her into the ultimate woman warrior unkowingly Mojo & Spiral are pulling the strings thanks to Mojo's bionic camera eyes her gave her long ago in Uncanny X-Men #256. Psylocke wears the Mandarin's rings as Lady Mandarin in the following issue. Scary. She breaks free, but the changes seem permanent.
Psylocke--along with Professor Xavier, Wolverine, Jubilee, Oracle, & the Starjammers--are each replaced by Warskrulls in Uncanny X-Men #275-277.
Psylocke--along with Cyclops, Rogue, Beast, & Gambit--are brainwashed to follow Magneto's way of thinking thanks to his Acolytes in X-Men #1-3 (second series) temporarily until they use their powers...






You'd think. But apparently being a action junkie means that she has to throw herself stomach-first at bad guys so they can disembowel her :frown:

Reread X-Men #1-3 (1991). Chris Claremont mentions the action junkie thing with Psylocke here. If he stayed with the book, he would have gone somewhere with her characterization.

[Anon_me]

I 'm really curious as to how good Betsy is suppose to be at hand-to-hand combat; how does she stack up against people like Elektra, Black Widow, etc.

[Tazirai]

I 'm really curious as to how good Betsy is suppose to be at hand-to-hand combat; how does she stack up against people like Elektra, Black Widow, etc.

In the Marvel Universe.. Everybody is the "best there is at what they do!":rolleyes: :rolleyes: :cool:

[Tazirai]

Double Post

[Sindel]

For me, as a character, Betsy wouldn't wear heels if she wants to get into the thick of the action and to be honest, heels just doesn't jive with me in her female warrior persona; heels fit when she was less physcially aggressive but not now. Some female characters would almost always be in heels; a la Emma but I don't see heels and Betsy's personality going together.

psylocke has telekinesis, so wearing heels shouldn't be a problem for her. i happen to like the highheels, it increases betsy's sexiness and womanhood.

[metalgorgomon]

I 'm really curious as to how good Betsy is suppose to be at hand-to-hand combat; how does she stack up against people like Elektra, Black Widow, etc.

I'm also very curious. In Marvel universe website both Betsy and Black Widow Fighting Skills are 6 (out of 7) and Electra is 7 (the same as Wolverine).

In paper when fighting hand to hand combat and without power, I think Betsy probably is the weakest one since she practically gained her martial arts from Kwannon body (muscle memory?); and both electra and black widow, cmiiw , learned their skills through lifetime experience.

But in a combat that they can use their powers, IMO Betsy probably, in paper, has the strongest chance of winning the battle..

[Phil Hunn]

I kinda like the heels.. it makes her look a bit more feminine and besides who cares about it not being practicular during a fight, it's a freak'n comic book.

Doesn't stop something looking really bloody stupid, though - the Scarlet Witch's belly-dancer outfit being another case in point (especially since George Perez bragged about how much skin he was getting the Witch - a character who'd been virtually encased in spandex with every costume she'd ever worn - to show off, with the flimsiest of justifications).

Betsy's Hand costume had one thing going for it, though: her boots didn't have heels on...

For me, as a character, Betsy wouldn't wear heels if she wants to get into the thick of the action and to be honest, heels just doesn't jive with me in her female warrior persona; heels fit when she was less physcially aggressive but not now. Some female characters would almost always be in heels; a la Emma but I don't see heels and Betsy's personality going together.

Exactly. High kicks and heels? Bad combination.

[metalgorgomon]

I think this one actually looked cool. Psylocke in full body suit. Taken from X-Men Legend 2. This one might actually work for her in X-Force :biggrin:

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/PsylockeX-MenLegend2.jpg

[DDM]

I'm also very curious. In Marvel universe website both Betsy and Black Widow Fighting Skills are 6 (out of 7) and Electra is 7 (the same as Wolverine).

In paper when fighting hand to hand combat and without power, I think Betsy probably is the weakest one since she practically gained her martial arts from Kwannon body (muscle memory?); and both electra and black widow, cmiiw , learned their skills through lifetime experience.

But in a combat that they can use their powers, IMO Betsy probably, in paper, has the strongest chance of winning the battle..

Originally, Betsy gained the ninja knowledge through her telepathy & the Hand's magic; however, she learned to be very good through months of training with the Hand. Several months pass inbetween Uncanny X-Men #255 & Uncanny X-Men #256-257 when Psylocke encounters Wolverine as Lady Mandarin.

Likewise, Kitty absorbed her knowledge of Ogun's ninja skills when he possessed her body in Wolverine & Kitty Pryde #1-8; this experience is what caused Kitty to change her code-name & costume to Shadowcat.

[CmX]

I think this one actually looked cool. Psylocke in full body suit. Taken from X-Men Legend 2. This one might actually work for her in X-Force :biggrin:



I didn't like this costume too well. I like the color scheme, but it looks like some bizarre alien fighter space suit.

It's actually from the first Legends game, since Psylocke was absent for the sequel. To make room for great characters such as Toad, Juggernaut, Bishop, Professor X and IronMan! [/sarcasm]

[Phil Hunn]

I didn't like this costume too well. I like the color scheme, but it looks like some bizarre alien fighter space suit.

Not to mention her psychic knife actually looks like a welding torch built into her suit...

It's actually from the first Legends game, since Psylocke was absent for the sequel. To make room for great characters such as Toad, Juggernaut, Bishop, Professor X and IronMan! [/sarcasm]

Hey, playing as Juggernaut was cool. Smash stuff for fun! :biggrin:

[Anon_me]

Betsy's Hand costume had one thing going for it, though: her boots didn't have heels on...

To be fair, as far as I can recall, only her Captian Britian, original Psylocke and current costume have high heels; the rest were all flats.

As to the whole making her look more feminine thing; does Psylocke (as a character with her own motivations) really want to look feminine...back in the days, she was always wanting people to see past her outside genteel facade and see "the tiger within" (which didn't really explain why she chose the frilly pink ribbon costume but I digress).

[metalgorgomon]

Originally, Betsy gained the ninja knowledge through her telepathy & the Hand's magic; however, she learned to be very good through months of training with the Hand. Several months pass inbetween Uncanny X-Men #255 & Uncanny X-Men #256-257 when Psylocke encounters Wolverine as Lady Mandarin.

Likewise, Kitty absorbed her knowledge of Ogun's ninja skills when he possessed her body in Wolverine & Kitty Pryde #1-8; this experience is what caused Kitty to change her code-name & costume to Shadowcat.

Wonder who's the better fighter, Betsy or Kitty? As for Kitty, when the last time she uses her martial arts? I don't think i've seen her fighting like a ninja in Astonishing or recent issues of Uncanny.. Her style of hand to hand combat was just like any other X-Men's.


I didn't like this costume too well. I like the color scheme, but it looks like some bizarre alien fighter space suit.

It's actually from the first Legends game, since Psylocke was absent for the sequel. To make room for great characters such as Toad, Juggernaut, Bishop, Professor X and IronMan! [/sarcasm]

Thanks for the correction. I remember Betsy was the last playable member in X-Men Legend 1. Too bad she didn't make it to the sequel...

Regarding the costume. Yes.. it looks like an alien space suit a bit. Well.. maybe i just want to see her in a full body suit for once (after the Armor she had back in the days). Actually she had one during the Clayton Henry run as the penciller in Exiles. But i didn't like it. And I didn't like how he drew her as well. She looked like Monet in this picture.
http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/Psylocke-ClaytonHenryCostume.jpg

[Anon_me]

Wonder who's the better fighter, Betsy or Kitty? As for Kitty, when the last time she uses her martial arts? I don't think i've seen her fighting like a ninja in Astonishing or recent issues of Uncanny.. Her style of hand to hand combat was just like any other X-Men's.

She showed her ninja chops in her last mini, didn't she?

I *think* Betsy is suppose to be better, mainly because they're always going on about how so-and-so is good but she's better, and how she's graceful and deadly, etc. etc.; and I don't recall them pushing that about Kitty.

[metalgorgomon]

She showed her ninja chops in her last mini, didn't she?

I *think* Betsy is suppose to be better, mainly because they're always going on about how so-and-so is good but she's better, and how she's graceful and deadly, etc. etc.; and I don't recall them pushing that about Kitty.

Did you mean this mini X-MEN: KITTY PRYDE- SHADOW & FLAME ?
I didn't read them :biggrin: Well.. she didn't show any of those skills recently in the core X-books though. Soon people might forget that she ever has those skills..

When will Psylocke has her own Mini?? The last and only time she's in her mini was the Psylocke & Archangel back in the 90's?? It's too long already.
Why don't Marvel release a mini of her focusing in her early days??

[Phil Hunn]

Did you mean this mini X-MEN: KITTY PRYDE- SHADOW & FLAME ?
I didn't read them :biggrin: Well.. she didn't show any of those skills recently in the core X-books though. Soon people might forget that she ever has those skills..

When will Psylocke has her own Mini?? The last and only time she's in her mini was the Psylocke & Archangel back in the 90's?? It's too long already.
Why don't Marvel release a mini of her focusing in her early days??

Because showing her as an English chick would be "too confusing for new readers", I'd imagine...

[DDM]

Wonder who's the better fighter, Betsy or Kitty? As for Kitty, when the last time she uses her martial arts? I don't think i've seen her fighting like a ninja in Astonishing or recent issues of Uncanny.. Her style of hand to hand combat was just like any other X-Men's.

Shadowcat used her martial arts to escape in Excalibur #17 by slipping out of her boots when she told Rachel about being possessed by Ogun (Rachel made a joke about her costume going all the way to her neck & couldn't do Kitty's trick). I think Kitty also used some martial arts skills against Mastrex Opal Lun Sat-Yr-9's guards in Excalibur #55-56.

Otherwise, it's few & far between.

[DDM]

Wonder who's the better fighter, Betsy or Kitty? As for Kitty, when the last time she uses her martial arts? I don't think i've seen her fighting like a ninja in Astonishing or recent issues of Uncanny.. Her style of hand to hand combat was just like any other X-Men's.

Shadowcat used her martial arts to escape in Excalibur #17 by slipping out of her boots when she told Rachel about being possessed by Ogun (Rachel made a joke about her costume going all the way to her neck & couldn't do Kitty's trick). I think Kitty also used some martial arts skills against Mastrex Opal Lun Sat-Yr-9's guards in Excalibur #55-56.

Otherwise, it's few & far between.

[metalgorgomon]

Because showing her as an English chick would be "too confusing for new readers", I'd imagine...

Emma Frost Solo/Mini series also portrayed a very different young Emma than the Emma Frost that had been known by readers. Not to mention, the covers didn't actually represent what the inside content..

But I get your point though.. Betsy is more extreme example. She was practically looked different back then. But I think a mini that tell the story just like Carey's doin with X-Men Legacy might work for Psylocke. And writer can highlight that she's very much the same person back then with the same personality despite having different bodies. British Betsy, at least for me, was a person that has passion for adventure, brave, care about family and friends and put others safety first before herself.

[wonderland]

Emma Frost Solo/Mini series also portrayed a very different young Emma than the Emma Frost that had been known by readers. Not to mention, the covers didn't actually represent what the inside content..

But I get your point though.. Betsy is more extreme example. She was practically looked different back then. But I think a mini that tell the story just like Carey's doin with X-Men Legacy might work for Psylocke. And writer can highlight that she's very much the same person back then with the same personality despite having different bodies. British Betsy, at least for me, was a person that has passion for adventure, brave, care about family and friends and put others safety first before herself.


A mini series would be welcome..i'd just hope they gave it to a writer who wouldnt just do some kind of 'Tomb Raider' rip-off, which is a possibility with Betsy's earlier years (A British aristocrat with a penchant for adventures!)

[Anon_me]

It could be about how her days as a supermodel by day and secret agent by night.

[Tazirai]

Because showing her as an English chick would be "too confusing for new readers", I'd imagine...

I dont think it's that at all Phil.

Emma Frost Solo/Mini series also portrayed a very different young Emma than the Emma Frost that had been known by readers. Not to mention, the covers didn't actually represent what the inside content..

But I get your point though.. Betsy is more extreme example. She was practically looked different back then. But I think a mini that tell the story just like Carey's doin with X-Men Legacy might work for Psylocke. And writer can highlight that she's very much the same person back then with the same personality despite having different bodies. British Betsy, at least for me, was a person that has passion for adventure, brave, care about family and friends and put others safety first before herself.


The old " It would confuse new readers thing," Thing is a non issue.
The Mini could be six issues and focus on her life thru all stages of her existence. It would not only re familiarize her to old fans.

It would also show newer readers and fans, where she came from. I mean people look at her and Captain Britain together. And she calls him Brother and her Sister. if that doesn't get your mental juices peculating I dont know what will.

It would be great to establish the character firmly in the MU outside of sex kitten.

it would also allow Marvel to Gauge the fans of he anglo-british version.
against/to the Asian-british version. See who likes what more.

[metalgorgomon]

C'mon Claremont/Grummet/Roberto, bring back the Butterfly Aura please!

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/ButterflyAura2.jpg

The Butterfly Aura can actually work with the new Psylocke costume. Credit to Anon_Me for the skecth:

Bring back the psionically ionized atmospheric butterfly effect

http://www.sionglewis.com/postings/Psylocke_05.jpg

[metalgorgomon]

It'd be lovely to have a mini series based on the younger Braddocks (Jamie, Betsy and Brian). Maybe we can call it The Braddocks? Or maybe Clan-Braddocks :tongue: ?

Little Betsy and Brian are so cute.. Notice that she's very protective when it comes to Brian..
http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/BetsyandBrian1.jpg

And little Betsy was already an action junkie :biggrin:

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/BetsyandJamie1.jpg

[Shade101]

Here's a Psylocke Evening wear sketch!

http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg116/Dukkus/PsylockeEveningWear.jpg

[metalgorgomon]

^OMG.. that's a very lovely design.. I like it a lot! She should wear it in the next New Exiles downtime issue :biggrin: Can't wait for the colored version. Thanks for the sketch, Shade101..

[Phil Hunn]

Sweet sketch, Shade101!

Emma Frost Solo/Mini series also portrayed a very different young Emma than the Emma Frost that had been known by readers. Not to mention, the covers didn't actually represent what the inside content..

Yeah, but that was Emma Frost, Saviour Of Marvel. Everybody loves Emma! :rolleyes:

I dont think it's that at all Phil.

Me neither. I think it's as credible an excuse as "It's magic, we don't have to explain it."

It would be great to establish the character firmly in the MU outside of sex kitten.

it would also allow Marvel to Gauge the fans of he anglo-british version.
against/to the Asian-british version. See who likes what more.

I suspect that Asian-o-Betsy would win that contest hands-down, because there's nothing creepy fanboys like more than a barely-covered arse...

[CmX]

I am so effing pissed off right now. I just read New Exiles #5 (which blows so bad it's not even funny, it was horrible and the art didn't help at all I'm not just saying it was bad for the hell of it, no it was that bad)

But *SPOILER*...

Sage uses her telepathy in this issue!

What pisses me off is I hate Sage and this happening makes me hate her even more and dislike CC for doing this and not letting Psylocke do this when a lot of people are happier with her being a telepath.

I am so upset!! >=(

[DDM]

I am so effing pissed off right now. I just read New Exiles #5 (which blows so bad it's not even funny, it was horrible and the art didn't help at all I'm not just saying it was bad for the hell of it, no it was that bad)

But *SPOILER*...

Sage uses her telepathy in this issue!

What pisses me off is I hate Sage and this happening makes me hate her even more and dislike CC for doing this and not letting Psylocke do this when a lot of people are happier with her being a telepath.

I am so upset!! >=(

Psylocke is a telekinetic right now; she can't read minds anymore.

[CmX]

Psylocke is a telekinetic right now; she can't read minds anymore.

Well duh I've know that for the past seven freak'n years.

My POINT is that it's upsetting that he restores SAGES telepathy and not PSYLOCKES.

Don't feed me obvious facts PLEASE dont reply with issue numbers because that's not what I'm asking for. I'm stating that I'm severely unhappy that one character gets her telepathy back and the other doesn't.

[The Sword Is Drawn]

Well duh I've know that for the past seven freak'n years.

My POINT is that it's upsetting that he restores SAGES telepathy and not PSYLOCKES.

Don't feed me obvious facts PLEASE dont reply with issue numbers because that's not what I'm asking for. I'm stating that I'm severely unhappy that one character gets her telepathy back and the other doesn't.

But Sage does not have telepathy. She has psychic defences, built up via help from Xavier.

Psychic DEFences she just happens to use OFFensively when CC realises he doesn't have a psychic on the team... meh. :rolleyes:

[Phil Hunn]

I am so effing pissed off right now. I just read New Exiles #5 (which blows so bad it's not even funny, it was horrible and the art didn't help at all I'm not just saying it was bad for the hell of it, no it was that bad)

But *SPOILER*...

Sage uses her telepathy in this issue!

... what? I thought she'd purposefully locked that down herself for one reason or another (something to do with the Hellfire Club, wasn't it?).

I guess since she's out of her home reality she felt safe enough to use it, but... this still makes Baby Jesus cry.

Look at Him, He's crying real tears!

[CmX]

But Sage does not have telepathy. She has psychic defences, built up via help from Xavier.

Psychic DEFences she just happens to use OFFensively when CC realises he doesn't have a psychic on the team... meh. :rolleyes:

Yeah but she was a telepath originally and in the latest issue she's speaking to Cat via telepathy and says she's hearing everyone's thoughts w/out control.

Whatever I'm officially so over Claremont, Sage, Psylocke (his version anyway) and Exiles over all.

It's sad that I totally dislike my favorite character right now. Thanks for absolutely nothing CC. What the devil is your problem Claremont !? It's MY turn! I'm called..... CmX!

[The Sword Is Drawn]

Yeah but she was a telepath originally and in the latest issue she's speaking to Cat via telepathy and says she's hearing everyone's thoughts w/out control.

Whatever I'm officially so over Claremont, Sage, Psylocke (his version anyway) and Exiles over all.

It's sad that I totally dislike my favorite character right now. Thanks for absolutely nothing CC. What the devil is your problem Claremont !? It's MY turn! I'm called..... CmX!

Lol. I actually agree with a lot of the sentiment, there. And I was being sarcastic about Sage. :biggrin:

[CmX]

... what? I thought she'd purposefully locked that down herself for one reason or another (something to do with the Hellfire Club, wasn't it?).

I guess since she's out of her home reality she felt safe enough to use it, but... this still makes Baby Jesus cry.

Look at Him, He's crying real tears!

she started using her telepathy unaware she was evne cursing Xavier outloud blaming him for some reason, WTF.

Doesn't CC realize that even though it appeared on pages inked and drawn that nobody has ever .. EVER and won't ever acknowledge Sage as an original X-Man? That makes me tickle that he thinks it's canon.

[darknessatnoon]

she started using her telepathy unaware she was evne cursing Xavier outloud blaming him for some reason, WTF.

Doesn't CC realize that even though it appeared on pages inked and drawn that nobody has ever .. EVER and won't ever acknowledge Sage as an original X-Man? That makes me tickle that he thinks it's canon.

It is canon. Live in denial Psylocke fan.

[CmX]

It is canon. Live in denial Psylocke fan.

Yeah but who has referenced it since then? Nobody. Even the writer of XMen First Class said he'd NEVER feature it in any of his stories.

lol Face it Sage sucks.

[The Sword Is Drawn]

It is canon. Live in denial Psylocke fan.

Oh it's canon. Nobody can deny it. And I'm sure it must come in great comfort to those 12 or so Sage fans out there, who actually give a toss about her. :rolleyes:

[CmX]

Oh it's canon. Nobody can deny it. And I'm sure it must come in great comfort to those 12 or so Sage fans out there, who actually give a toss about her. :rolleyes:

Sadly there's quite a few Sage fans, and they're all CC worshippers. Just go to XFan1 Everyone there loves them some Sage!

[darknessatnoon]

Yeah but who has referenced it since then? Nobody. Even the writer of XMen First Class said he'd NEVER feature it in any of his stories.

lol Face it Sage sucks.

Carey referenced it in the first issue of Legacy. Now go back to worshiping the Braddock Twins.

[DDM]

... what? I thought she'd purposefully locked that down herself for one reason or another (something to do with the Hellfire Club, wasn't it?).

I guess since she's out of her home reality she felt safe enough to use it, but... this still makes Baby Jesus cry.

Look at Him, He's crying real tears!

Sage's telepathy has been on lockdown since Elias Bogan in X-Treme X-Men; however, I would say that this plot point--Sage's telepathy returns--is more about Sage's mind still dealing with the massive dose of information given to her by Roma.

[DDM]

she started using her telepathy unaware she was evne cursing Xavier outloud blaming him for some reason, WTF.

Doesn't CC realize that even though it appeared on pages inked and drawn that nobody has ever .. EVER and won't ever acknowledge Sage as an original X-Man? That makes me tickle that he thinks it's canon.

Sage was never a member of the team, although he recruited Sage around the same time he recruited the original 5 X-Men. Xavier trained Sage separately for a specific task to be his spy. It's one of the reasons Sage resents Xavier to this day.

[wonderland]

Sage is clearly CC's pet character, she is becoming more and more the central focus in Exiles, her current power levels etc ...maybe the x-office is bringing Betsy back to the 616, i dont have any proof but everything going on in the xverse just makes me think she'l be back sooner rather than later.I hope the whole Lady Mandarin arc coming up will be Psylocke's big farewell to the Exiles...

[DDM]

Sage is clearly CC's pet character, she is becoming more and more the central focus in Exiles, her current power levels etc ...maybe the x-office is bringing Betsy back to the 616, i dont have any proof but everything going on in the xverse just makes me think she'l be back sooner rather than later.I hope the whole Lady Mandarin arc coming up will be Psylocke's big farewell to the Exiles...

I think if you read carefully, all of Claremont-created characters are his "pet characters." He does not have favorites. Psylocke is going to stay on New Exiles until Claremont is off the book. The same is for Sage.

[darknessatnoon]

I think if you read carefully, all of Claremont-created characters are his "pet characters." He does not have favorites. Psylocke is going to stay on New Exiles until Claremont is off the book. The same is for Sage.

DDM, stop posting Sage information to these Psylocke heathens. Post in the I Appreciate Sage thread!!!!

[Come To Deathstrike]

Well duh I've know that for the past seven freak'n years.

My POINT is that it's upsetting that he restores SAGES telepathy and not PSYLOCKES.


Probably because Sage is better.

Yeah but who has referenced it since then? Nobody. Even the writer of XMen First Class said he'd NEVER feature it in any of his stories.

lol Face it the writer of X men First class sucks.

Oh it's canon. Nobody can deny it. And I'm sure it must come in great comfort to those 12 or so Sage fans out there, who actually give a toss about her. :rolleyes:

I'm here. Make that thirteen!

Sadly there's quite a few Sage fans, and they're all CC worshippers. Just go to XFan1 Everyone there loves them some Sage!

I love me some sage.
I hate me some CC.

I broke your theory.

Sage 1.
YOU. 0.

And no, that aint binary!

[CmX]

Probably because Sage is better.





I'm here. Make that thirteen!



I love me some sage.
I hate me some CC.

I broke your theory.

Sage 1.
YOU. 0.

And no, that aint binary!

How the hell do you love Sage but hate CC? He's the only writer that freak'n writes the loser character.

[Shade101]

Sage is so not a loser. I can't understand why everyone on this forum hates her so much. Seeing as though she's barely made a huge mark on the X-Men franchise. She has so much potential, she can only get better.

[darknessatnoon]

Sage is so not a loser. I can't understand why everyone on this forum hates her so much. Seeing as though she's barely made a huge mark on the X-Men franchise. She has so much potential, she can only get better.

Shade,

they are offended because Sage once snapped her fingers and brought Betsy to ground. Then she sent for Betsy's coat and showed her the back-door to the Hellfire Club. Sage > Psylocke, in terms of power.

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh227/darknessatnoon/hairaureole.jpg

[Sindel]

that was a funny scene..especially the expression on psylockes face and her running away. british betsy was such a coward.

[Shade101]

Shade,

they are offended because Sage once snapped her fingers and brought Betsy to ground. Then she sent for Betsy's coat and showed her the back-door to the Hellfire Club. Sage > Psylocke, in terms of power.

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh227/darknessatnoon/hairaureole.jpg

I see. Forgot all about that little altercation between the two of them.

[Tazirai]

Yeah but she was a telepath originally and in the latest issue she's speaking to Cat via telepathy and says she's hearing everyone's thoughts w/out control.

Whatever I'm officially so over Claremont, Sage, Psylocke (his version anyway) and Exiles over all.

It's sad that I totally dislike my favorite character right now. Thanks for absolutely nothing CC. What the devil is your problem Claremont !? It's MY turn! I'm called..... CmX!

I still read and collect everything I can In regards to Pre asian Psylocke. Alot of my books have SEVERE wear and tear. I still read her pre gold/blue team(whatever) asian issues. I stop at revanche and stuff.

I've pretty much given up on her for awhile. I'll keep abreast of her, and post here. But I'm not buying new issues, until a concrete change.

SO that means I wont be supporting her stories for awhile.

[Sindel]

Don't feed me obvious facts PLEASE dont reply with issue numbers because that's not what I'm asking for. I'm stating that I'm severely unhappy that one character gets her telepathy back and the other doesn't.


he he he he:biggrin:

[metalgorgomon]

Sage is so not a loser. I can't understand why everyone on this forum hates her so much. Seeing as though she's barely made a huge mark on the X-Men franchise. She has so much potential, she can only get better.


Shade,

they are offended because Sage once snapped her fingers and brought Betsy to ground. Then she sent for Betsy's coat and showed her the back-door to the Hellfire Club. Sage > Psylocke, in terms of power.


C’mon.. Shade101 clearly asked why people in CBR (this forum) hate Sage.
I don’t think most Psylocke fans (in Psylocke appreciate thread) hate her. Of course, some of us don’t like her. But it doesn’t mean that all of us do. I’m quite indifferent bout Sage. Don’t hate her and don’t love her either. She can be cool at times, especially being a spy/cop thing.

And you brought something that doesn’t even close to explain why even the Sage discussion happened here in the first place.

Actually some of us here complained about the thing that happened in New Exiles #5.

Spoilers…
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Most of Psylocke fans wanted Betsy to gain her telepathy back. But CC apparently has something else in mind and makes Sage gaining her telepathy (back). Sage was a telepath before. But she never uses her telepathy in a common way (talk to others telepathically and other stuff). CMIIW, back in the days, Sage was specifically trained by Xavier (the strongest telepath in the world) to use her telepathy in a more passive way (able to reflect others telepathic intrusion with more damaging impact). And IMO, that was unique.
Betsy in the other hand was a telepath that uses her ability pretty much like other telepaths do. And she’s very good at it and probably alot better after after joining the X-Men.
And now.. Sage becomes pretty much like Betsy was when she was a telepath.

So Psylocke fans here didn’t initially attack Sage as a character, but complained about CC’s current work in New Exiles. Sage fans don’t need to be defensive and all..

[metalgorgomon]

This is actually very ironic:

Psylocke wished she had her telepathy back:

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/Psylocke-DBTS5-1.jpg

And then:
http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/PsylockeandSageDBTS5.jpg

And then...there's New Exiles #5..

[Sindel]

C’mon.. Shade101 clearly asked why people in CBR (this forum) hate Sage.
I don’t think most Psylocke fans (in Psylocke appreciate thread) hate her. Of course, some of us don’t like her. But it doesn’t mean that all of us do. I’m quite indifferent bout Sage. Don’t hate her and don’t love her either. She can be cool at times, especially being a spy/cop thing.

And you brought something that doesn’t even close to explain why even the Sage discussion happened here in the first place.

Actually some of us here complained about the thing that happened in New Exiles #5.

Spoilers…
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Most of Psylocke fans wanted Betsy to gain her telepathy back. But CC apparently has something else in mind and makes Sage gaining her telepathy (back). Sage was a telepath before. But she never uses her telepathy in a common way (talk to others telepathically and other stuff). CMIIW, back in the days, Sage was specifically trained by Xavier (the strongest telepath in the world) to use her telepathy in a more passive way (able to reflect others telepathic intrusion with more damaging impact). And IMO, that was unique.
Betsy in the other hand was a telepath that uses her ability pretty much like other telepaths do. And she’s very good at it and probably alot better after after joining the X-Men.
And now.. Sage becomes pretty much like Betsy was when she was a telepath.

So Psylocke fans here didn’t initially attack Sage as a character, but complained about CC’s current work in New Exiles. Sage fans don’t need to be defensive and all..



not true, sage simply focued all her telepathic powers on making her mind completely impenetrable to evil telepaths like elias bogan.

[The Sword Is Drawn]

People hate Sage on here because she's only written by Claremont, and as a pepetual plot resolving character, whose powers adapt unconvincingly to every new story she turns up in. Most of thosse abilities are never referred to again, after the event, and her actual character (Since becoming an actal X-Man, anyway) has never been properly fleshed out.

This has nothing to do with Psylocke.

[metalgorgomon]

not true, sage simply focued all her telepathic powers on making her mind completely impenetrable to evil telepaths like elias bogan.


Well.. you're kinda correct. CMIIW, But I haven't read an issue where she used her telepathy other than that, except making others mutant ability 'jumped' to their max potential.

Come to think of it. Betsy's currently has that particular ability. Not by focusing her telepathy, but because she's blinded to telepathy. Now she's impenetrable to any telepath intrusion. On the contrary, Sage now can read minds and interact with others by telepathy (a feature that Betsy once had).

So it's kinda like Betsy and Sage switched power?? Oh well..... :confused:

[DDM]

Well.. you're kinda correct. CMIIW, But I haven't read an issue where she used her telepathy other than that, except making others mutant ability 'jumped' to their max potential.

Come to think of it. Betsy's currently has that particular ability. Not by focusing her telepathy, but because she's blinded to telepathy. Now she's impenetrable to any telepath intrusion. On the contrary, Sage now can read minds and interact with others by telepathy (a feature that Betsy once had).

So it's kinda like Betsy and Sage switched power?? Oh well..... :confused:


Chris Claremont is using a power set Sage never had as a plot device. Terry Kavanaugh introduced Tessa as a low level telepath to explain her computer-like mind in X-Man Annual #1; when Claremont discovered this via a message board, he intergrated the power set to explain the contradiction with Elias Bogan. Claremont is using it again as a plot device with Sage.

[Sindel]

i swear a poster JUST mentioned that on this very thread ddm.

[The Sword Is Drawn]

i swear a poster JUST mentioned that on this very thread ddm.

Maybe it was worth spelling out twice.

[Tazirai]

that was a funny scene..especially the expression on psylockes face and her running away. british betsy was such a coward.

She wasn't a coward. She just knew when to say when.
British Psylocke was the most tactically proficient X-man outside of Storm in those days.

Back during her "Strike" Days, they blew that way out of proportion with her combat training and Spying activities. She was part of their Esper division, but she was never portrayed as Jane Bond, until recently.

[metalgorgomon]

A scan of British Betsy posing for Colossus:

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/PsylockeColossusDrawing.jpg

I was from Uncanny X-Men (forgot the issue), when the team was based in Australian Outback.

[DDM]

A scan of British Betsy posing for Colossus:

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/PsylockeColossusDrawing.jpg

I was from Uncanny X-Men (forgot the issue), when the team was based in Australian Outback.

I think it's from Uncanny X-Men #240.

[metalgorgomon]

I think it's from Uncanny X-Men #240.

I think you're correct. It's part of the Inferno crossover, if I'm not mistaken. I think scans of Psylocke fighting Arclight (and the rest of Marauders) from that issue was posted earlier in this thread.

[Domo Goddess]

http://www.freewebs.com/eternaldomo/1Betsy.jpg

http://www.freewebs.com/eternaldomo/1BetsyvsArkady.jpg

[metalgorgomon]

^ So, I believe you've bought the X-Men: Genesis Tpb? Thanks for the scans Domo.

Found this in the 'other' Psylocke's Thread. Quite similar scene as your scan :biggrin: :

Here's my Psylocke figure:

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a360/Goonie1/Exiles%20Customs/Psylocke/PsylockeCustom4-5.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a360/Goonie1/Exiles%20Customs/Psylocke/PsylockeCustom4-3.jpg

I won her on ebay.

I want those action figures!!

[Tazirai]

^ So, I believe you've bought the X-Men: Genesis Tpb? Thanks for the scans Domo.

Found this in the 'other' Psylocke's Thread. Quite similar scene as your scan :biggrin: :



I want those action figures!!



You'll probably like this .

I Just purchased my second zatanna figure from DC direct. Her pose, body structure and shape. Are HIGHLY suggestive of Outback Psylocke.

Here's what she looks like.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/tazirai/dcdidentitycrisis_zatanna.jpg

It'll take some time, because I want it done right the first time. But once it's done.
I'll have the Psylocke figure i've always wanted.

The one in THAT costume.
http://psylocke.club.fr/gallerie/australie/080.jpg

Marvel needs to produce some outback era figures. DC did it with their legion from the 60's figures.

[Domo Goddess]

Mutant Genesis arrived today so I'm happy.

I love those action figures.

http://www.freewebs.com/eternaldomo/1BetsyvsMagneto.jpg

http://www.freewebs.com/eternaldomo/Betsydrawing.jpg

http://www.freewebs.com/eternaldomo/BetsyvsAndrea.jpg

[Phil Hunn]

You'll probably like this .

I Just purchased my second zatanna figure from DC direct. Her pose, body structure and shape. Are HIGHLY suggestive of Outback Psylocke.

I have that figure, I think. Pity she won't stand up straight...

[metalgorgomon]

You'll probably like this .

I Just purchased my second zatanna figure from DC direct. Her pose, body structure and shape. Are HIGHLY suggestive of Outback Psylocke.

It'll take some time, because I want it done right the first time. But once it's done.
I'll have the Psylocke figure i've always wanted.

The one in THAT costume.
http://psylocke.club.fr/gallerie/australie/080.jpg

Marvel needs to produce some outback era figures. DC did it with their legion from the 60's figures.

Couldn't agree more. While Zantana's body structure is quite similar to Betsy's but she ain't no Psylocke :smile: I also think Raven's costume quite similar to Australian Betsy's.

Too bad Marvel only produced action figures of Psylocke in her Hand and AOA costumes only. She has many great costumes, IMO. Even the LAdy Mandarin one looked very cool. A collection of outback X-Men figures would be very cool..

[wonderland]

Does anyone know if the issues dealing with the bodyswap have ever been collected in tpb?

[Saturius]

Does anyone know if the issues dealing with the bodyswap have ever been collected in tpb?

Yeah, they have been twice. One is in the Jim Lee Visionaries TPB of the X-men and another was a tradepaperback released earlier that contained the stories when Beast became the furry beast we all love today, Angel's transformation into Archangel during X-factor, and of course, our lovely lady Psylocke's transformation from Anglo to Asian in UXM 256-258. I'd recommend the Jim Lee TPB though. You get a ton of other great stories and you get to see Jim lee's version of British Psylocke in UXM 248. She was sexy, although she was always sexy even before her ninjafication. I don't even think the other TPB is in print anymore.

[wonderland]

Yeah, they have been twice. One is in the Jim Lee Visionaries TPB of the X-men and another was a tradepaperback released earlier that contained the stories when Beast became the furry beast we all love today, Angel's transformation into Archangel during X-factor, and of course, our lovely lady Psylocke's transformation from Anglo to Asian in UXM 256-258. I'd recommend the Jim Lee TPB though. You get a ton of other great stories and you get to see Jim lee's version of British Psylocke in UXM 248. She was sexy, although she was always sexy even before her ninjafication. I don't even think the other TPB is in print anymore.

Thanks :smile: I'll definately try and track down at least one of these.

[booga]

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a360/Goonie1/Exiles%20Customs/Psylocke/PsylockeCustom4-3.jpg

technically she should have a cameltoe

[eurazn]

technically she should have a cameltoe

Spiral's magic is just that good ... camel-toe begone!

[Tazirai]

Spiral's magic is just that good ... camel-toe begone!

whoa.!! :biggrin:

[metalgorgomon]

Thanks :smile: I'll definately try and track down at least one of these.

This is one of those TPBs (one shot) you're looking for. It's X-Men: Mutations (Beast, Angel, Psylocke).

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/X-MenMutationBeastAngelPsylocke.jpg

I think Amazon has some copies (used ones)..
Psylocke's Mandarin costume not bad at all (the head piece can go though).

[CmX]

The Mandarin outfit was so badass cause it was really intimidating looking.

Jim Lee should've left her in that outfit to kinda not be such a shocking departure from her Aussie armor, oh well whatever!

[metalgorgomon]

I also think that her Mandarin costume kinda resembled her Aussie armor.
More Lady Mandarin:

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/Psylocke-LadyMandarin.jpg


Bonus :biggrin: : I love this one, from UXM #261. It's not very often we see Psylocke in evening wear.

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/Psylocke-UXM261.jpg

[wonderland]

I also think that her Mandarin costume kinda resembled her Aussie armor.
More Lady Mandarin:

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/Psylocke-LadyMandarin.jpg


Bonus :biggrin: : I love this one, from UXM #261. It's not very often we see Psylocke in evening wear.

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/Psylocke-UXM261.jpg

Excellent pic's..I have to agree, lose the helmut and the lady mandarin costumes not bad at all...not as good as the 2nd pic but still good :biggrin:

So what do people think...xmen: Mutations or Jim Lee Visionaries...which one should i get?

[DDM]

Excellent pic's..I have to agree, lose the helmut and the lady mandarin costumes not bad at all...not as good as the 2nd pic but still good :biggrin:

It's a shame about uxm, i like it about as much as i like Exiles.

So what do people think...xmen: Mutations or Jim Lee Visionaries...which one should i get?

Buy the X-Men Visionaries: Jim Lee. You will get almost all of his Uncanny X-Men stories save Uncanny X-Men #270-272. The stories cover Uncanny X-Men #248, #256-258, Uncanny X-Men #267-269, Uncanny X-Men #273-277, & Classic X-Men #39 plus various covers he did when he did not pencil the interiors of Uncanny X-Men.

[Saturius]

Next to Storm, Psylocke is my favorite X-Woman. I really love her psychic butterfly psi signature. I've read all her Captain Britain and X-Men appearances and I think the butterfly first appeared in UXM 213 or NM Annual 2. Does anyone know if Alan Davis or perhaps Claremont commented on how or why they gave her a psychic butterfly aura? Was it just supposed to be a cool visual? Did it somehow play into her personality? I've always been curious about how exactly that just came about when she started appearing in the X-books. Psylocke MUST be a telepath again so she can rock the butterfly signature. There's something so cool about an ass kicking chick with a genteel power representation manifesting itself as a butterfly. It was a great dichotemy. And it was kinda elegant when she was an Anglo Brit.

[DDM]

Next to Storm, Psylocke is my favorite X-Woman. I really love her psychic butterfly psi signature. I've read all her Captain Britain and X-Men appearances and I think the butterfly first appeared in UXM 213 or NM Annual 2. Does anyone know if Alan Davis or perhaps Claremont commented on how or why they gave her a psychic butterfly aura? Was it just supposed to be a cool visual? Did it somehow play into her personality? I've always been curious about how exactly that just came about when she started appearing in the X-books. Psylocke MUST be a telepath again so she can rock the butterfly signature. There's something so cool about an ass kicking chick with a genteel power representation manifesting itself as a butterfly. It was a great dichotemy. And it was kinda elegant when she was an Anglo Brit.

Psylocke's butterfly signature first appears in Uncanny X-Men #213; I believe it's a collaborative effort between Chris Claremont & Alan Davis. Prior to this issue, Psylocke's psychic signature is rather nebulous. For instance, in Uncanny X-Men #212, Psylocke's telepathic image is shown talking to Wolverine.

I think Chris Claremont liked the challenge of writing Psylocke since she was only a telepath--albeit a very powerful telepath who lacked physical skills. I miss Betsy with telepathy...:frown:

[Phil Hunn]

The Mandarin outfit was so badass cause it was really intimidating looking.

Jim Lee should've left her in that outfit to kinda not be such a shocking departure from her Aussie armor, oh well whatever!

But then we'd have had a costume that didn't stick around like a bad smell for over a decade...

... wait, that would have been a good thing.

[metalgorgomon]

OMG.. Syesha Mercado (from American Idol) had British Betsy hairdo!! :biggrin:

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/PsylockeSyesha.jpg

[Tazirai]

OMG.. Syesha Mercado (from American Idol) had British Betsy hairdo!! :biggrin:

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/PsylockeSyesha.jpg

LMAO too funny.

[Michael Sean]

Reading over this thread always reminds me how much I like Psylocke. I just wish she was in a different book. Imagine Psylocke being written by Carey. He has expressed interest in her in the past.

Too bad he'll probably never get his chance to write her :rolleyes:

[metalgorgomon]

^ Let's just hope that one day Carey'd be given the task to write some Psylocke stories..

He's been writing very good X stories so far and Marvel seems to keen on giving him tasks of writing various X stories, from the X-Men, Wolverine One Shot, X-Men-Legacy and the Free Comic Book Day: X-Men. Hopefully one day he'll have enough influence in Marvel in getting the characters he wants to write (especially Psylocke).

[wonderland]

^ Let's just hope that one day Carey'd be given the task to write some Psylocke stories..

He's been writing very good X stories so far and Marvel seems to keen on giving him tasks of writing various X stories, from the X-Men, Wolverine One Shot, X-Men-Legacy and the Free Comic Book Day: X-Men. Hopefully one day he'll have enough influence in Marvel in getting the characters he wants to write (especially Psylocke).

Couldnt agree more...The current writers are making the x-books a lot more interesting lately..Hopefully Betsy will find her way into Carey's or Kyle and Yost's books.

[metalgorgomon]

What I really like about Carey's writing is the way he used the continuity and history of the X-Men (including Claremont's run) and make it work in the current continuity. It shows that he is really a big X-fan and respect the past history of the X-Men characters.
I wonder what he has in store for our lovely Miss Braddock...

[Phil Hunn]

Couldnt agree more...The current writers are making the x-books a lot more interesting lately..Hopefully Betsy will find her way into Carey's or Kyle and Yost's books.

Nah, Carey's the only choice for Betsy. Kyle & Yost would just warp her into a killer, 'cause killing is kewl.

[metalgorgomon]

Perhaps not so many people know that Betsy can really sing.. She even studied at the Royal Academy (presumably in London).

From Uncanny X-Men #319:
http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/PsylockeSinging-UXM319.jpg

Wonder what song did she sing in that panel. Maybe "If You Don't Know Me By Know Me" by Simply Red?

[Leirus]

Psylocke's butterfly signature first appears in Uncanny X-Men #213; I believe it's a collaborative effort between Chris Claremont & Alan Davis. Prior to this issue, Psylocke's psychic signature is rather nebulous. For instance, in Uncanny X-Men #212, Psylocke's telepathic image is shown talking to Wolverine.

I think Chris Claremont liked the challenge of writing Psylocke since she was only a telepath--albeit a very powerful telepath who lacked physical skills. I miss Betsy with telepathy...:frown:


Factoid! As psylocke was imposible to translate to spanish, She is called "Mariposa Mental" (Mental Butterfly) in spanish... friends & fans call her Mariposa... Iove also her psi signature, and I am waiting it to make the comeback (because in the meantime, her codename does not make sense)

The good and bad of being a comic-follower is that, eventually, all the changes are made, unmade and remade. I even think that asian Psylocke will not be here for ever...

[DDM]

Factoid! As psylocke was imposible to translate to spanish, She is called "Mariposa Mental" (Mental Butterfly) in spanish... friends & fans call her Mariposa... Iove also her psi signature, and I am waiting it to make the comeback (because in the meantime, her codename does not make sense)

The good and bad of being a comic-follower is that, eventually, all the changes are made, unmade and remade. I even think that asian Psylocke will not be here for ever...

Since her name was impossible to translate into Spanish, they should have kept her name "Psylocke" in Spanish so there would be less confusion.

[Leirus]

Since her name was impossible to translate into Spanish, they should have kept her name "Psylocke" in Spanish so there would be less confusion.

The politic about that has been changing through the years, so depending on when the character was introduced it has the english name or the spanish one...

For example Rogue is Picara, but Longshot is just Longshot

And I sorta like Mariposa for Psylocke...

[DDM]

The politic about that has been changing through the years, so depending on when the character was introduced it has the english name or the spanish one...

For example Rogue is Picara, but Longshot is just Longshot

And I sorta like Mariposa for Psylocke...

Longshot is another name for American slang so I can why it could not translate into Spanish. However, although Psylocke is not an idiom, it is a unique name for a specific character.

[metalgorgomon]

The politic about that has been changing through the years, so depending on when the character was introduced it has the english name or the spanish one...

For example Rogue is Picara, but Longshot is just Longshot

And I sorta like Mariposa for Psylocke...

Longshot is another name for American slang so I can why it could not translate into Spanish. However, although Psylocke is not an idiom, it is a unique name for a specific character.

Whether it's Mariposa or Psylocke for Spanish reader. .. we all agree that the Butterfly Aura should return right :smile: ?? C'mon Marvel, make it happen!!

Bring back the psionically ionized atmospheric butterfly effect

http://www.sionglewis.com/postings/Psylocke_05.jpg

[wonderland]

They should bring back the b-aura..it was a very unique illustration of her powers, however i kind of like the tk-powers but only up to a point...a better combination of the two and id be very happy..not asking much am i? :smile: I miss the psychic knife too!

[Phil Hunn]

Whether it's Mariposa or Psylocke for Spanish reader. .. we all agree that the Butterfly Aura should return right :smile: ?? C'mon Marvel, make it happen!!

Yep, this should definitely occur. The butterfly might not be as iconic as that accursed cosmic parrot, but it's Betsy's unique imagery (which she needs, considering the whole "image over the eye" thing was nicked by Jean and then by Rachel).

[Almighty Pejo]

I'd like to see Betsy get the butterfly back, but it works so much better as a telepathic effect.

[Sindel]

the butterfly aura should return as a telekintic weapon? like her telekinetic butterfiles striking her enemies with razor sharp intensity like in the video game.

[metalgorgomon]

^ I love that scene from the Video Game too!! If I'm not istaken, it's called Kouche Gakure.. I can see it working for TK Betsy.

I can also really see Betsy making telekinetic butterfly and throws them like shurikens. It will be awesome!!

Hell.. I don't really care in what form it'll be, I'll be very happy if the butterfly aura comes back.

[Anon_me]

Remember that girl from X-factor (I think she came from Bishop's future or something) who had psi-powers that mainfested as little pixies and she could do pesudo-telepathy and stuff. Betsy's butterflies could be like that; just have a whole column of butterflies rushing the target instead of the regular psi-bolt that most TKs have.

[Sindel]

i remember her, her telepathy was clearly based off psylocke. much like that cyblade character

[metalgorgomon]

Since this week is the opening week for the Iron Man Movie (which IMO is a great movie).. anybody read this particular comic?

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/Psylcke-ContestofChampion.jpg

What's this comic all about? And What did Psylocke do in that comic?

[lockerogue]

^ I love that scene from the Video Game too!! If I'm not istaken, it's called Kouche Gakure.. I can see it working for TK Betsy.

I can also really see Betsy making telekinetic butterfly and throws them like shurikens. It will be awesome!!

Hell.. I don't really care in what form it'll be, I'll be very happy if the butterfly aura comes back.

Oh you mean Marvel vs. Capcom 2. I love that attack.

[metalgorgomon]

Oh you mean Marvel vs. Capcom 2. I love that attack.

Yes.. You're correct. I think it's from that particular (Arcade) Game.
Actually that's how i knew Psylocke for the first time :biggrin: She was badass in that game! She has those three great final attacks: Psy Thrust, Psy Maelstrom and Kouche Gakure (those little butterflies attack).
Although at that time (90s) Psylocke was a telepath, but her special attacks in the video games were kinda telekinetic than Telepathic attack, IMO.

[Phil Hunn]

Since this week is the opening week for the Iron Man Movie (which IMO is a great movie).. anybody read this particular comic?

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/Psylcke-ContestofChampion.jpg

What's this comic all about? And What did Psylocke do in that comic?

This is an issue of the lamentably bad Contest of Champions II miniseries, where various characters had scheduled punch-ups at the behest of some aliens who turned out to be a super-evolved version of the Kree. Or something like that, anyway.

In any case: this issue featured Psylocke fighting Iron Man - and, astonishingly, actually winning. She basically gave off the illusion that she was Lady Mandarin again, and proceeded to somehow beat Iron Man with it.

I mean, I like Psylocke, but that's just silly...

[metalgorgomon]

This is an issue of the lamentably bad Contest of Champions II miniseries, where various characters had scheduled punch-ups at the behest of some aliens who turned out to be a super-evolved version of the Kree. Or something like that, anyway.

In any case: this issue featured Psylocke fighting Iron Man - and, astonishingly, actually winning. She basically gave off the illusion that she was Lady Mandarin again, and proceeded to somehow beat Iron Man with it.

I mean, I like Psylocke, but that's just silly...

Thanks for the info, Phil.
Whoaa.. Psylocke beats Iron Man!!
But yeah.. based on skills an power-set, i don't see Psylocke winning against Iron Man. But it's not impossible actually.. depends on the execution.. the davids can beat the goliaths..

[Anon_me]

She didn't beat Iron Man. She was still telepathic and she messed around with his mind by making him think she still had the Manadarin's rings and then when she got in close to finish him with her psychic knife, Iron Man remembered she's a telepath, saw through the illusion, shocked her with his armour, and down she went. You would think, though, instead of messing about with telepathic illusions, she'd just fry his mind from afar or something...silly action junkie =p

[Saturius]

Technically her telepathy probably shouldn't have worked as Iron Man is supposed to have very strong psi-shields, but she did use her psi-knife on him later on and that did fry his mind. He landed on top of her though while in his armor so both were incapacitated. She sported a hideous alien-bone garb like costume though in some parts of the series. It was painful to see Betts look like that.

[DDM]

This is an issue of the lamentably bad Contest of Champions II miniseries, where various characters had scheduled punch-ups at the behest of some aliens who turned out to be a super-evolved version of the Kree. Or something like that, anyway.

In any case: this issue featured Psylocke fighting Iron Man - and, astonishingly, actually winning. She basically gave off the illusion that she was Lady Mandarin again, and proceeded to somehow beat Iron Man with it.

I mean, I like Psylocke, but that's just silly...

The villains are the Badoon & the Brood who secretly plan to use the champions are hosts for the Brood Queen eggs to invade the Earth (the losers are meant to be meat for the Brood); it's actually a well developed story. Psylocke's battle against Iron Man is well written too as she uses her telepathy is masterful ways to easily defeat Iron Man. The heroes eventually put all the pieces together in time to defeat the Brood & Badoon. We also get to see another battle against a Brood Queen possessed Rogue & Warbird...

I recommend the Contest of Champions II TPB.

[DDM]

Technically her telepathy probably shouldn't have worked as Iron Man is supposed to have very strong psi-shields, but she did use her psi-knife on him later on and that did fry his mind. He landed on top of her though while in his armor so both were incapacitated. She sported a hideous alien-bone garb like costume though in some parts of the series. It was painful to see Betts look like that.

The hideous alien "costume" served as camouflage. The military uses camouflage all the time to ambush foes. Psylocke is no different except her "costume" was once a living organism...! Psylocke's behavior here just reinforces her special military training as part of STRIKE.

[metalgorgomon]

I recommend the Contest of Champions II TPB.

I believe this is the TPB that you've mentioned:

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/ContestofChampions.jpg

Too bad Psylocke was not in the cover. But i read somewhere that this book is heavily focused on Iron Man?
Wonder whether this book (the actual issue that featured Psylocke) was released after or before Psylocke was killed in Extreme X-Men..

[jarrod]

Nah, Carey's the only choice for Betsy. Kyle & Yost would just warp her into a killer, 'cause killing is kewl.
I thought Yost did a great job on the NEX8 fill in. He did a good Wisdom too, shame he couldn't have stuck around instead of Tieri...

[metalgorgomon]

Some of my favorite panels from New Excalibur 8:

Betsy, using telekinesis, causing stroke to the Shadowking host body:
http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/Psylocke-TelekineticBubble-NEX8.jpg

Betsy's being transported to the Exiles:
http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/Psylocke-NEX8GonetoExiles.jpg

[jarrod]

Ugh. I *really* wish Yost had been in charge of the fill ins during Claremont's absence (on both Uncanny and NEX, they were mangled as is)... I also wish Betsy had hung around NEX awhile longer, she seemed to work well there imo.

[DDM]

I believe this is the TPB that you've mentioned:

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/ContestofChampions.jpg

Too bad Psylocke was not in the cover. But i read somewhere that this book is heavily focused on Iron Man?
Wonder whether this book (the actual issue that featured Psylocke) was released after or before Psylocke was killed in Extreme X-Men..

Contest of Champions II was released while other writers were on Uncanny X-Men & X-Men; this is a few years before X-Treme X-Men. Betsy still has her telepathy here, but she can't use it for it would release the Shadow King from his psychic prison.

[Phil Hunn]

She didn't beat Iron Man. She was still telepathic and she messed around with his mind by making him think she still had the Manadarin's rings and then when she got in close to finish him with her psychic knife, Iron Man remembered she's a telepath, saw through the illusion, shocked her with his armour, and down she went. You would think, though, instead of messing about with telepathic illusions, she'd just fry his mind from afar or something...silly action junkie =p

She didn't win? Makes more sense, I suppose.

Just goes to show how little I took in from it, then :wink:

[Michael Sean]

Some of my favorite panels from New Excalibur 8:

Betsy, using telekinesis, causing stroke to the Shadowking host body:


I hadn't seen those. While I still prefer Besty as a tp Claremont def. turned her into a powerful telekinetic.

It's still weird for me to see her fly, but she's been a tk for many years now and will probably be one until a writer decides to give her another big revamp! :redface:

[Phil Hunn]

I hadn't seen those. While I still prefer Besty as a tp Claremont def. turned her into a powerful telekinetic.

It's still weird for me to see her fly, but she's been a tk for many years now and will probably be one until a writer decides to give her another big revamp! :redface:

Don't say that! She'll get turned into a telepathic Dalek or something! :tongue:

[metalgorgomon]

This month is Hellfire Club Month..

I will post some of Psylocke's Hellfire Club appearances.. Wonder whether I should post them here or to the other thread.. But since this is her thread, here's one of them..

Psylocke was the Red Queen in Wolverine: Days of Future Past (this is not the 616 of course)

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/Psylocke-RedQueen2.jpg

Wonder what made her corrupted and act as an evil member of the Hellfire Club (in this timeline)? Was it because of the death of her former lover, Angel??

[Phil Hunn]

Wonder what made her corrupted and act as an evil member of the Hellfire Club (in this timeline)? Was it because of the death of her former lover, Angel??

I imagine that didn't help, but she seemed to have more Crimson Dawn markings on her as well - which implies that she lost the battle against it in the Psylocke/Archangel limited series from a long while back...

[wonderland]

Boo..doesnt look like much Psylocke love in the new xmen series..every other character seems to be in the trailer.:frown:

[metalgorgomon]

I imagine that didn't help, but she seemed to have more Crimson Dawn markings on her as well - which implies that she lost the battle against it in the Psylocke/Archangel limited series from a long while back...

Maybe you're right.. the Crimson Dawn might responsible her being corrupted..


More Psylocke as Red Queen with Shinobi Shaw:
http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/Psylocke-WolverinedofpRedQueen2.jpg


This one also taken from Days of Future Past (Excalibur #94), but she appeared without the Crimson mark.. Was it only Brian's nightmare in that Excalibur issue, or was it the same DOFP timeline?

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/Psylocke-DaysofFuturePastExcalibur9.jpg

[metalgorgomon]

Boo..doesnt look like much Psylocke love in the new xmen series..every other character seems to be in the trailer.:frown:

The new X-Men series looked great. It's too bad Psylocke wasn't even in the trailer! Arrgghh... she missed a lot of great stuff in the X-Men (Messiah Complex, X-Men Revamp, new X-Men animated series). :mad: :mad:

Hopefully she'll make it eventually in the actual series. Even Colossus, who were confirmed to be in it, wasn't shown in the trailer.

[Phil Hunn]

The new X-Men series looked great. It's too bad Psylocke wasn't even in the trailer! Arrgghh... she missed a lot of great stuff in the X-Men (Messiah Complex, X-Men Revamp, new X-Men animated series). :mad: :mad:

Hopefully she'll make it eventually in the actual series. Even Colossus, who were confirmed to be in it, wasn't shown in the trailer.

Indeed. If Sammy the freakin' Fishboy can make it into the new cartoon, Betsy should have no trouble finding a spot.

[The Sword Is Drawn]

This one also taken from Days of Future Past (Excalibur #94), but she appeared without the Crimson mark.. Was it only Brian's nightmare in that Excalibur issue, or was it the same DOFP timeline?

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/Psylocke-DaysofFuturePastExcalibur9.jpg

It was not the same storyline as Days of Future Past, no. Excalibur covered that timeline back in the Alan Davis days. Days of Future Tense was technically Brian's nightmare - but one which was informed by things which he saw during his time trapped in the timestream. In that timeline most of the events of Days of Future past DID occur - the sentinels enslaved America and most of the world - But because Black Air took over Britain the defence network they established spared the country. However, it was paid for at the expense of Black Air now running Britain like as a totalitarian state.

In that timeline, presumably, the Crimson Dawn connection either never occured or at some point parted company with Betsy.

All that we do know is that in this timeline Warren died, and that whether he and Betsy were still together or not she witnessed it, and it haunts her dreams.

[Jordan D. White]

Don't say that! She'll get turned into a telepathic Dalek or something! :tongue:

Dude, relax. It's going to be great.

http://www.wax-work.com/psylek.jpg

[Tazirai]

Indeed. If Sammy the freakin' Fishboy can make it into the new cartoon, Betsy should have no trouble finding a spot.

She's just not as popular as we are lead to believe she is me thinks.

Never know though.

[Tazirai]

The hideous alien "costume" served as camouflage. The military uses camouflage all the time to ambush foes. Psylocke is no different except her "costume" was once a living organism...! Psylocke's behavior here just reinforces her special military training as part of STRIKE.

The Fake retconned training?:rolleyes:

LMAO. In her Original writings, the Only Work she did for Strike was their Psy-Ops division.

Then later she gets some training from a Captain Britain Corps member.

Then she joins the X-men, and is NEVER presented as a strong physical threat.
She threw exactly one punch as the caucasian Psylocke. That was against Jean Grey during the Inferno thingee.

Next thing you know, she's retconned inton this Fighting Machine from Strike, who was also a secret spy...:rolleyes:
Who Tessa stunned into obedience and made her run away.

Her hisory seriously got screwed.:tongue:

[metalgorgomon]

The Fake retconned training?:rolleyes:

LMAO. In her Original writings, the Only Work she did for Strike was their Psy-Ops division.

Then later she gets some training from a Captain Britain Corps member.

Then she joins the X-men, and is NEVER presented as a strong physical threat.
She threw exactly one punch as the caucasian Psylocke. That was against Jean Grey during the Inferno thingee.

Next thing you know, she's retconned inton this Fighting Machine from Strike, who was also a secret spy...:rolleyes:
Who Tessa stunned into obedience and made her run away.

Her hisory seriously got screwed.:tongue:

Well.. Betsy as a fashion model was mentioned way back in Super Spider-Man and Captain Britain #243 and her STRIKE career was mentioned in early issues of Daredevils (issue #3-4). It wouldn't surprise me if she's also doing a spy thingee during that time, considering being a telepath would make a spy job easier.

And was it mentioned that Caucasian Betsy was a fighting machine? I thought in that issue (Contest of Champion) she's already half-asian hence having the ninja/fighting skills..

[metalgorgomon]

Psylocke attending a Hellfire Club party (from X-Men #29)

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/psylockeHellfire1.jpg


Psylocke and Angel (from the same issue)

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/PsylockeAngel-Hellfire1.jpg

I think this was the first time they had a date. They'll make a good Hellfire couple :)

[Anon_me]

Well.. Betsy as a fashion model was mentioned way back in Super Spider-Man and Captain Britain #243 and her STRIKE career was mentioned in early issues of Daredevils (issue #3-4). It wouldn't surprise me if she's also doing a spy thingee during that time, considering being a telepath would make a spy job easier.

And was it mentioned that Caucasian Betsy was a fighting machine? I thought in that issue (Contest of Champion) she's already half-asian hence having the ninja/fighting skills..

I don't know if she was a fighting machine but when she died in Xtreme and they had the flashback montage of her; there was a panel where it looked like she could handle herself.

[eurazn]

Psylocke attending a Hellfire Club party (from X-Men #29)

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/psylockeHellfire1.jpg


What a terrible dress. I wept a little inside. Poor Betsy ... she's had such horrendous outfits over the years ...

[metalgorgomon]

What a terrible dress. I wept a little inside. Poor Betsy ... she's had such horrendous outfits over the years ...

I don't think it's a terrible dress at all.. The color scheme on the other hand.. was bad. Maybe she already started the 'Harajuku' style back then?? She's half Japanese after all.. :biggrin:

[Tazirai]

I don't know if she was a fighting machine but when she died in Xtreme and they had the flashback montage of her; there was a panel where it looked like she could handle herself.

There was a panel during her fake STRIKE training. She was wearing fatigues and beating on some chump.

Makes me giggle when I see it. Considering..:biggrin: :biggrin:

[sneggz]

Dude, relax. It's going to be great.

http://www.wax-work.com/psylek.jpg

dude! dalek betsy!!

the nexiles should crossover wit doctor who, and betsy should totally seduce doc

[xmanson]

I was gonna post that page where Betsy is posing for Colossus and Rogue comes flying through the window, but I can't find it. Very funny stuff.

[Anon_me]

I think that page is somewhere on this threa but I'm too lazy to look =p

One thing about that scene though, why was Peter armoured up to paint Betsy?

[Slung]

I think that page is somewhere on this threa but I'm too lazy to look =p

One thing about that scene though, why was Peter armoured up to paint Betsy?

It kept his manly parts from stirring in his loins.

FACT: Colossus cannot reach an excited state while in his organic steel mode. Now if he were to armor up while engorged, he would be a dangerous, dangerous weapon.

[xmanson]

I think that page is somewhere on this threa but I'm too lazy to look =p

One thing about that scene though, why was Peter armoured up to paint Betsy?

IIRC, he was stuck in his metal form during that period. It got healed after he went though the Siege Perilous, again, I don't really remember.

[metalgorgomon]

As requested, Psylocke and Colossus in UXM 240:

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/PsylockeColossusDrawing.jpg

And Rogue came flying through the window (thanks to Dazzler's beam)
http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/Psylocke-UXM240-1.jpg

So much for a nude-drawing session :biggrin:
http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/Psylocke-UXM240-2.jpg