Psylocke Appreciation Thread

[peopleofpaper]

It's okay,what I meant is that that part of Fraction's plan to "simplify" Psylocke is restoring her telepathic talents(since the writers haven't really established what she could do with her TK).From what I've seen,I'm sensing that he is a fan of ninja telepath Psylocke(whether she is Asian or not).Um,then again,considering how much respect he's paid to her so far,some would say that he doesn't like Psylocke at all...


i think that's the only good thing Fraction could be doing. i think teke is more fun for a character but she really should be swiped from all that added fluff they put in her over the years. CC made her a mega mutant and for some reason he was still the only one who cared enough to feature her in such a way. now that i think about it, CC is always changing Betsy constantly which is really different from so many other mutants who stay the same. i wonder why he never seems happy with her staying in one form?

so i guess the one thing Fraction is doing right with her is giving back her basic original powerset. i'm pretty sure in an interview he said he liked her character as the ninja telepath the best so it's to be expected that's the outcome. i can't wait either for the next issue even though they all leave me a bit disappointed. although the first issue where she got transplanted by the sisterhood i loved because i wasn't expecting it to happen that way.

[psycwave]

Thats a LOOOOOOOOOOOOONG two weeks.XD

"Let's be patient for 2 more weeks" was added to the original post after I quoted it. Taz is right, though, two more weeks is a long time to wait, especially given how long we've waited already!

I agree. Im not sure how much more agony I can take. I really just want the Sisterhood arc to be over so I can see what happens with Betts, mainly what her powerset is. I wanna say tp but like i said Land is known for drawing her with the psy knife aside from the katana, so it could be either or.

Sidebar: I still want my Betsy/Elektra team up/fight Marvel!!!.

[eurazn]

Sidebar: I still want my Betsy/Elektra team up/fight Marvel!!!.

First things first, Psyc ... Psylocke and Dazzler need to PWN Spiral already. Settling those old scores is long overdue!

[psycwave]

First things first, Psyc ... Psylocke and Dazzler need to PWN Spiral already.

Oh yes how could I forget. I have been waiting for that one for years!!

[.LuckyStar.]

First things first, Psyc ... Psylocke and Dazzler need to PWN Spiral already. Settling those old scores is long overdue!

I was hoping Dazz big scene had to do with her putting Psylocke back to her senses. But this is Fraction, not gonna happen. :/

And guys, Fraction said that he "liked her more as the, uhm, psychic ninja as it gave her a different powerset than just being a telepath..." He never said he liked Asian over British better. And for all we know, British Betsy may still be a ninja. And it looks like she is. I'd say there's a 50/50 chance for each body to remain. Looking at the big picture, I assume this return to original body is Axel Alonso's doing, not Fraction. Axel is the one calling the shots and he's a big Psylocke fan. I'm pretty sure he's the one responsible. As for Fraction, I bet he couldn't care less, it's not like Betsy is Pixie or Emma. lol

[psycwave]

As long as Kwannon stays dead, I dont care what body we get! Just dont bring Kwannon back!!!

[Askanipsion]

As long as Kwannon stays dead, I dont care what body we get! Just dont bring Kwannon back!!!

Aye! Aye! Keep her dead! The retcon was bad enough!

[Aguja]

I love Revanche, but I feel she had a very good death. Also I would rather her memory not be sullied by Fraction. Her body, however, must not be returned to Wolverine's sick Japanese graveyard of women. Do you think he collects the hair from their corpses?

Why is Psylocke not appearing in Models Inc? Racism?

[Askanipsion]

Her body, however, must not be returned to Wolverine's sick Japanese graveyard of women. Do you think he collects the hair from their corpses?



ROFL!!! That is great.....

yeah Wolverine really does some sick things when it comes to women.......his fetish for young girls and then his obsession with dead ones.....ewww.......


How did he get ahold of Revanche's body anyway??

[Aguja]

.....


How did he get ahold of Revanche's body anyway??

Precisely! Was she not buried by Matsu'o? That would mean Logan exhumed her corpse and moved it :eek:

Why do more people not see how sick he truly is.

[Askanipsion]

Precisely! Was she not buried by Matsu'o? That would mean Logan exhumed her corpse and moved it :eek:

Why do more people not see how sick he truly is.

Hmm Matsu'o was obsessed with her too....maybe her body is a time-share? :eek:

[celestialbodies]

Don't know if this has been asked or not but I've just been reading up on British Betsy and I was wondering how she stacked up against Jean back then or against Emma pre-Morrison's run.

[Askanipsion]

Don't know if this has been asked or not but I've just been reading up on British Betsy and I was wondering how she stacked up against Jean back then or against Emma pre-Morrison's run.

Jean was believed dead at the time and Betsy didn't meet her until Inferno. Emma really wasn't around much at that time either when British Betts was around.

[psycwave]

Don't know if this has been asked or not but I've just been reading up on British Betsy and I was wondering how she stacked up against Jean back then or against Emma pre-Morrison's run.

Yeah Askanipsion pretty much nailed it, and when they did meet during Inferno Jean only had telekinesis. But Psylocke was always a fairly strong telepath. The ways and manners she used her tp were edgy and different and quickly gave her the upper hand against foes. It was said she could leaf throught the inhabitants of an entire time with ease and she also had the ability to psycho blast an intense directed beam of psionic energy that affected real world matter, strong enough to bend steel and melt flesh. She was kinda replacing Xavier on the power scale, not quite as high but still powerful. Its kinda said that Emma Frost today is where Psylocke should be. I agree.

[Drey]

i think that's the only good thing Fraction could be doing. i think teke is more fun for a character but she really should be swiped from all that added fluff they put in her over the years.

I started out completely hating the telekinesis. I had stopped reading comics for about 8 months and when I came back during Revolution and saw that Psylocke was a telekine I was like WTF??!!! I eventually started warming up to it and by the time she was resurrected in Uncanny, I liked it. It was nice to see the character shown as a capable fighter again and not the victim. Her psychic knife used to fail so much back in the day it got on my nerves.

I mostly just like the TK when used to enhance her fighting skills or the katana that can slice through solid objects, but I was pretty annoyed with the thought of Psylocke suddenly using her TK to appear invisible.

Right now, I think it's best to have her as a telepath and let her do creative things with that power. She could always increase the electrical impulses in her brain to make her reflexes quicker or amp up her strength (although not to superhuman levels like she could with TK)

CC made her a mega mutant and for some reason he was still the only one who cared enough to feature her in such a way.

I give CC his props for pretty much making her the alpha female after Storm left Uncanny as well as in Exiles/New Exiles. What completely ruins things for me with CC is that he chooses the WORST men to hook Betsy up with. First Neal and then AoA Sabretooth? I wanted to vomit.

Aye! Aye! Keep her dead! The retcon was bad enough!

I liked Revanche very much and I've thought that it'd be kinda cool to see her in her own body, but then again I don't think I like the thought of Kwannon ending up as "Asian Betsy" and I think it'd be pointless to put her in the British body. So I guess it might be better to keep her dead and have Betsy in one body or the other because honestly, both bodies are Betsy to me.

Don't know if this has been asked or not but I've just been reading up on British Betsy and I was wondering how she stacked up against Jean back then or against Emma pre-Morrison's run.

Well, when they first met in Inferno as rivals, Betsy blocked Jean's access to her telekinesis and fought her. Though Jean's telepathy was very limited at the time and could only really link up with baby Christopher or psychically sense others.

[psycwave]

I started out completely hating the telekinesis. I had stopped reading comics for about 8 months and when I came back during Revolution and saw that Psylocke was a telekine I was like WTF??!!! I eventually started warming up to it and by the time she was resurrected in Uncanny, I liked it. It was nice to see the character shown as a capable fighter again and not the victim. Her psychic knife used to fail so much back in the day it got on my nerves.

I mostly just like the TK when used to enhance her fighting skills or the katana that can slice through solid objects, but I was pretty annoyed with the thought of Psylocke suddenly using her TK to appear invisible.


I actually didnt mind the teke. I minded the way she used it of course. I always felt that the tk could have been an asset to her ninja skills just as much as her telepathy. She could have been using it to enhance her speed, stealth, leaping and strength(as she did a few times) I too felt that the tk katana should have been able to have a physical effect aside from a mental. While i didnt mind the when she turned invisible i felt it came out wrong. One minute Betsy can't even pick up a dime with her teke but she can turn invisible. I think if that was gonna happen she should have been shown at least training. It was always said that Betts had the power but no finesse. I think if she would have worked on the finesse she would have been a grade A combat telekinetic. I also would have liked to see some tk butterlfy shaped shurikens. Maybe even some teke armor.

Kwannon is a plage who should have never been created.

[Aguja]

Kwannon is a plage who should have never been created.

You wound me with these words. Kwannon's story was so romantic, which is why I think she should stay dead. But I will always miss her.

[psycwave]

You wound me with these words. Kwannon's story was so romantic, which is why I think she should stay dead. But I will always miss her.

Im sorry Aguja. But the thought of Kwannon always leave me in a bad place. As Tazirai said earlier. A complicated comlpication and thats what she was. Maybe If Fabian wouldhave known of the original plot and somehow worked around that with Kwannon I wouldn't be as adverse to Kwannon. But the unecessary switch, the melding of features so they are really each other, the killing her off to simply rid ourselves of the complication. It was all just messy and ill conceieved. I actually thought she had promise. If they would have returned to their original bodies and if she would have stayed an empathic assassin I could see more depth and character development for her. Like an assassin is always supposed to be emotionless. But Kwannon was someone who was constantly feeling the emotions of others around her. How did she deal with it. How did it truely affect. Would she ever reach a breaking point. Did those feeling ever come back to haunt her. I saw a lot of potential with Kwannon when she was first introduced but the whole "body swap/meld telepathic im confused on who i am oh now i have legacy *dies*" stuff just soured her for me.

[eurazn]

I actually didnt midnd the teke. I minded the way she used it of course. I always felt that the tk could have been an asset to her ninja skills just as much as her telepathy. She could have been using it to enhance her speed, stealth, leaping and strength(as she did a few times) I too felt that the tk katana should have been able to have a physical effect aside from a mental. While i didnt mind the when she turned invisible i felt it came out wrong. One minute Betsy can't even pick up a dime with her teke but she can turn invisible. I think if that was gonna happen she should have been shown at least training. It was always said that Betts had the power but no finesse. I think if she would have worked on the finesse she would have been a grade A combat telekinetic. I also would have liked to see some tk butterlfy shaped shurikens. Maybe even some teke armor.

Kwannon is a plage who should have never been created.

I agree with you! If her TK was applied in ways that fit her skill set, I would have been impressed. What doesn't make sense in many ways is suddenly she has the expert ability to rearrange her molecules to make herself invisible, shoot "TK beams," and deflect energy blasts, yet she's supposed to default to her martial arts abilities. Even in close quarters, her TK would logically trump the use of hand to hand skills.

The excuses used to justify the martial arts ("I'm a self-professed action junkie!" or "I'm mortally wounded so I have to concentrate on holding my organs together") just weren't logical. For one, the action junkie stuff jeopardizes herself and/or her teammates and if she can manage the focus to rearrange matter on a molecular level, maintaining blood flow would be child's play.

I find characters are more interesting if they're limited and have vulnerabilities; emotional, physical or otherwise. Psylocke's power became too amorphous and I don't want her to be a wretched R'Chel 2.0 (who is, herself, Jean 2.0).

[psycwave]

I so need to go out and get the Marvel V. Capcom for the new systems. Cyke & Jean Vs. Wolvie & Psy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLgNJaKmqWo) has made me totally nostalgic.

[Aguja]

I so need to go out and get the Marvel V. Capcom for the new systems. Cyke & Jean Vs. Wolvie & Psy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLgNJaKmqWo) has made me totally nostalgic.

Wait isn't that a mod though? Jean was never added to any of those games was she? A lot of those 'extra' characters were put on using a mod or so I was lead to believe.

The ability to play as Jean & Betsy together would give me a pleasure stroke.

[psycwave]

Wait isn't that a mod though? Jean was never added to any of those games was she? A lot of those 'extra' characters were put on using a mod or so I was lead to believe.

The ability to play as Jean & Betsy together would give me a pleasure stroke.

Yeah it was a mod but seeing Betsy in video game action was just glorious.

[Aguja]

Well at least Betsy is in a lot of the official games, I think maybe all. Jean never made it in :frown:

[cgar]

loving the butterfly effect in that fighting game.and i miss jean too. i think her and betsy need some panels together. i dont know why i just would. i actually wann see betsy interact with a lot of people. With Rogue, Colossus, Gambit, Logan, Cyclops, Jean, Storm, Jubilee, X-23, Havok, Beast, Iceman, Cannonball. Mike Carey needs a mini. What is Quesada's and Alonso addresses. I will write to them immediately

[peopleofpaper]

i miss the 90s. Psylocke was included in so many things.

[Selene]

I agree with you! If her TK was applied in ways that fit her skill set, I would have been impressed. What doesn't make sense in many ways is suddenly she has the expert ability to rearrange her molecules to make herself invisible, shoot "TK beams," and deflect energy blasts, yet she's supposed to default to her martial arts abilities. Even in close quarters, her TK would logically trump the use of hand to hand skills.

The excuses used to justify the martial arts ("I'm a self-professed action junkie!" or "I'm mortally wounded so I have to concentrate on holding my organs together") just weren't logical. For one, the action junkie stuff jeopardizes herself and/or her teammates and if she can manage the focus to rearrange matter on a molecular level, maintaining blood flow would be child's play.

I find characters are more interesting if they're limited and have vulnerabilities; emotional, physical or otherwise. Psylocke's power became too amorphous and I don't want her to be a wretched R'Chel 2.0 (who is, herself, Jean 2.0).
Well,here are the reasons why I hated the telekinesis:

1.It was used as an excuse for character development.

2.She swapped powers with the likes of Jean Grey(I love Jean,but the fact that Betsy is using a power that isn't "hers" is absurd and it's different from Rogue utilizing Ms.Marvel's and Sunfire's template,because it was a side-effect of her own power).

3.All of a sudden,she surpassed Rachel Grey,who could manipulate matter on a sub-atomic level.

4.The code-name "Psylocke" has nothing to do with someone who can manipulate matter.

5.She may be one of the most powerful appliers of TK,but her mind is adapted to telepathy,not telekinesis,so no matter how much she practices,she can't weild her power any better than she already can-ergo,the power swap and all those power-ups have been in vain.

6.Right after Jamie resurrected her,she(along with Sage)officially became a power-set and a "Deus-ex-Machina",with no characterization,what-so-ever.

7.As a telepath,Betsy compensated for the lack of physical prowess of her psychic powers with her deadly martial arts;why should her powers suddenly start affecting physically and not mentally her foes?She's got her ninja training to match her telepathic powers,after all.

8.All that potential...and she manifests her powers as a sword?! :rolleyes: The same goes for Dazzler as well...On the other hand,the way the psychic knife worked was really awesome.

Phew...
i miss the 90s. Psylocke was included in so many things.
Me,too.

[Askanipsion]

Well at least Betsy is in a lot of the official games, I think maybe all. Jean never made it in :frown:

British Betsy, Asian Betsy, Dark Phoenix and Jean are all playable characters in X-Men Next Dimension fighting game.

[Twisted Bliss]

I liked it when Jean and Betsy interacted during Inferno.

Jean was painful aware of being 'headblind' around a telepath. When Betsy withdrew her support Jean saw all the lights of the minds of those around her go out.

That to me is what Betsy should be ecstatic about having returned to her.

[lockerogue]

Someone have the panel of Psylocke watching Jean shower.

[Selene]

Someone have the panel of Psylocke watching Jean shower.
http://i466.photobucket.com/albums/rr21/Roguish-eyed/BetsyJean.jpg
Funny that you mentioned that moment,I loved Betsy in the particular page because she created a psychic projection so as to describe how would Brian re-act after seeing what the Hand did to her.

[Nattfjäril]

About the bodyswap and the whole immunity thing...

Maybe the Sisterhood tried to swap Psylocke back to her British body but failed to do so because of the immunity to telepathy/magic/control... That would explain the drool and the thing Wolverine said about Psylocke and it not being her. And it also could explain why asian Betsy is on the cover for Uncanny XMen 512. But that would mean that this is either Kwannon in Betsy's british body or that the bodyswap only partly worked?

A Psylocke, Rogue, Dazzler, Northstar team would be great yeah, and maybe add Beast, Cannonball and Iceman?

[psycwave]

More British Betsy goodness!!

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/psylocke%20only/Untitled-1.jpg
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/psylocke%20only/Untitled-2.jpg

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/psylocke%20only/Psylocke-NewMutantAnnual2-Psylockev.jpg

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/psylocke%20only/3Betsy.jpg

[Aguja]

OMG she needs to do that to Spiral again!

[Seccruz]

OMG she needs to do that to Spiral again!

Maye she will once she comes out of the trance she's in...
I'm really hoping she will have a decent spotlight time. Uncanny not being team based has to stop...too many characters becoming wallpaper is just sad...
:frown:

[eurazn]

Well,here are the reasons why I hated the telekinesis:

1.It was used as an excuse for character development.

2.She swapped powers with the likes of Jean Grey(I love Jean,but the fact that Betsy is using a power that isn't "hers" is absurd and it's different from Rogue utilizing Ms.Marvel's and Sunfire's template,because it was a side-effect of her own power).

3.All of a sudden,she surpassed Rachel Grey,who could manipulate matter on a sub-atomic level.

4.The code-name "Psylocke" has nothing to do with someone who can manipulate matter.

5.She may be one of the most powerful appliers of TK,but her mind is adapted to telepathy,not telekinesis,so no matter how much she practices,she can't weild her power any better than she already can-ergo,the power swap and all those power-ups have been in vain.

6.Right after Jamie resurrected her,she(along with Sage)officially became a power-set and a "Deus-ex-Machina",with no characterization,what-so-ever.

7.As a telepath,Betsy compensated for the lack of physical prowess of her psychic powers with her deadly martial arts;why should her powers suddenly start affecting physically and not mentally her foes?She's got her ninja training to match her telepathic powers,after all.

8.All that potential...and she manifests her powers as a sword?! The same goes for Dazzler as well...On the other hand,the way the psychic knife worked was really awesome.

Phew...

Great points, Selene!


In the spirit of providing more Psylocke scans, here's one I liked:

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d67/wairata/psykelly.jpg

I thought it was a poignant moment in which mutant and non-mutant alike realize there are some things the X-Men, despite all their abilities, cannot do.


I made these during the defunct Psylocke week, so I thought I'd share:

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d67/wairata/dazz-betts2.jpg http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d67/wairata/dazz-psy.jpg http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d67/wairata/dazz-psy2.jpg

[Hi-Fi]

Great points, Selene!


In the spirit of providing more Psylocke scans, here's one I liked:

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d67/wairata/psykelly.jpg

I thought it was a poignant moment in which mutant and non-mutant alike realize there are some things the X-Men, despite all their abilities, cannot do.

That was the first X-Men story I've ever read. Psylocke looked amazing in it, but her costume made me think she was unhappy. LOL. Don't ask. And of course, I immediately fell in love with Rogue, just to see her tossed into the Siege. Yay.

[darknessatnoon]

I'm glad Psylocke finally put some clothes on.

[eurazn]

That was the first X-Men story I've ever read. Psylocke looked amazing in it, but her costume made me think she was unhappy. LOL. Don't ask. And of course, I immediately fell in love with Rogue, just to see her tossed into the Siege. Yay.

Psylocke was probably unhappy because she wasn't altogether "useful" during that fight. Giant robots aren't very vulnerable to telepathy, after all.

Seeing Rogue go through the Siege was sad for me, especially poignant because that moment was indicative of how Rogue and Dazzler's relationship had come full circle. Years prior, Dazzler would have been more than happy to blast Rogue through that gateway, but there she struggled with sending a good friend to an unknown fate in order for the team to save the day.

I'm glad Psylocke finally put some clothes on.

We'll have to see what Fraction has in store for the next issue of UXM. We may just see the thong again!

[Darkchylde]

http://i466.photobucket.com/albums/rr21/Roguish-eyed/BetsyJean.jpg
Funny that you mentioned that moment,I loved Betsy in the particular page because she created a psychic projection so as to describe how would Brian re-act after seeing what the Hand did to her.

Good stuff here. This was back when Asian Psylocke was a dark horse among the X-Men. Loved it. If only subsequent writers had followed up on the plot of Psylocke possibly being a sleeper agent for the Hand. I know Claremont later said she wasn't, but it would have been cool to see how other writers would have explored that rather than the Kwannon/Revanche retcon mess that came later.

And look! Asian Psylocke really IS Asian Psylocke, not Ambiguous Psylocke Who May or May Not Be Asian Depending on the Artist! Jim Lee (or is this Silvestri?) sure knew how to draw a great Asian Psylocke.

[Addiction]

I HOPE BRITSH PSYLOCKE STAY WITH SISTERHOOD AND PRISONER BY SPIRAL EVER UNLESS IF SELENE OFFER HER TO JOIN HER TEAM TO AGAINST X-FORCE:evilsmile:

[Hi-Fi]

I thought Domino said that was Logan's own cemetery. I blame Fraction's writing. lol

LOL!! This is the second time you have to explain to me what exactly happened in a Fraction/Land comic.

You're my Fraction guide!

[Tazirai]

I was hoping Dazz big scene had to do with her putting Psylocke back to her senses. But this is Fraction, not gonna happen. :/

And guys, Fraction said that he "liked her more as the, uhm, psychic ninja as it gave her a different powerset than just being a telepath..." He never said he liked Asian over British better. And for all we know, British Betsy may still be a ninja. And it looks like she is. I'd say there's a 50/50 chance for each body to remain. Looking at the big picture, I assume this return to original body is Axel Alonso's doing, not Fraction. Axel is the one calling the shots and he's a big Psylocke fan. I'm pretty sure he's the one responsible. As for Fraction, I bet he couldn't care less, it's not like Betsy is Pixie or Emma. lol

I concur with this assesment.

[Tazirai]

As long as Kwannon stays dead, I dont care what body we get! Just dont bring Kwannon back!!!

JUST to keep fans happy for both the British and the Asian form. Bring Kwannon back to her birth body and vice versa. BUT I wish she'd stay dead 4 ever.:biggrin:

[Tazirai]

Don't know if this has been asked or not but I've just been reading up on British Betsy and I was wondering how she stacked up against Jean back then or against Emma pre-Morrison's run.

Well Psylocke was able to Telepathically shut down Jeans powers in Inferno. So I'd say it was good. Although neither her nor Jean were particulary great fighters. They went toe to toe there also. No outcome was ever shown.


But i'd assume jean hurt her hand on Betsy's armour^^:biggrin:

[Tazirai]

I agree with you! If her TK was applied in ways that fit her skill set, I would have been impressed. What doesn't make sense in many ways is suddenly she has the expert ability to rearrange her molecules to make herself invisible, shoot "TK beams," and deflect energy blasts, yet she's supposed to default to her martial arts abilities. Even in close quarters, her TK would logically trump the use of hand to hand skills.

The excuses used to justify the martial arts ("I'm a self-professed action junkie!" or "I'm mortally wounded so I have to concentrate on holding my organs together") just weren't logical. For one, the action junkie stuff jeopardizes herself and/or her teammates and if she can manage the focus to rearrange matter on a molecular level, maintaining blood flow would be child's play.

I find characters are more interesting if they're limited and have vulnerabilities; emotional, physical or otherwise. Psylocke's power became too amorphous and I don't want her to be a wretched R'Chel 2.0 (who is, herself, Jean 2.0).

I agree 10000% with what is said here. I hate characters soo strong. They cant beat anybody. I like a weakness or two. Psylockes seem to be yapping to much to her foes, about what she's gonna do.. Instead of just doing it. And posing.. thereby leaving her butt to be kicked. You can write a powerful woman without her being able to "Shatter Mountains, but I can't pick up a dime.":rolleyes:

[Tazirai]

Well,here are the reasons why I hated the telekinesis:

1.It was used as an excuse for character development.

2.She swapped powers with the likes of Jean Grey(I love Jean,but the fact that Betsy is using a power that isn't "hers" is absurd and it's different from Rogue utilizing Ms.Marvel's and Sunfire's template,because it was a side-effect of her own power).

3.All of a sudden,she surpassed Rachel Grey,who could manipulate matter on a sub-atomic level.

4.The code-name "Psylocke" has nothing to do with someone who can manipulate matter.

5.She may be one of the most powerful appliers of TK,but her mind is adapted to telepathy,not telekinesis,so no matter how much she practices,she can't weild her power any better than she already can-ergo,the power swap and all those power-ups have been in vain.

6.Right after Jamie resurrected her,she(along with Sage)officially became a power-set and a "Deus-ex-Machina",with no characterization,what-so-ever.

7.As a telepath,Betsy compensated for the lack of physical prowess of her psychic powers with her deadly martial arts;why should her powers suddenly start affecting physically and not mentally her foes?She's got her ninja training to match her telepathic powers,after all.

8.All that potential...and she manifests her powers as a sword?! :rolleyes: The same goes for Dazzler as well...On the other hand,the way the psychic knife worked was really awesome.

Phew...

Me,too.


What happened to Dazzler is another point of contention with me. Dazzler CONSISTENTLY used her powers, as varied as Telepathic Psylocke did. Now they are "Mainstreamed" to the point of being A City of Heroes style Min/Maxed Powerset. NO adaptability whatsoever.

They use their power( minus the S) one way.

[celestialbodies]

Well Psylocke was able to Telepathically shut down Jeans powers in Inferno. So I'd say it was good. Although neither her nor Jean were particulary great fighters. They went toe to toe there also. No outcome was ever shown.


But i'd assume jean hurt her hand on Betsy's armour^^:biggrin:




Please if you have those scans or if anyone else does please post them. Because I have to admit I didn't think too much of Psylocke before joining this thread but I'm slowly learning how amazing she is I wish though they'd make her a powerful Telepath whose skilled in the more basic uses of the power yet utilizes it in nonconventional ways like she use to.

[Tazirai]

Good stuff here. This was back when Asian Psylocke was a dark horse among the X-Men. Loved it. If only subsequent writers had followed up on the plot of Psylocke possibly being a sleeper agent for the Hand. I know Claremont later said she wasn't, but it would have been cool to see how other writers would have explored that rather than the Kwannon/Revanche retcon mess that came later.

And look! Asian Psylocke really IS Asian Psylocke, not Ambiguous Psylocke Who May or May Not Be Asian Depending on the Artist! Jim Lee (or is this Silvestri?) sure knew how to draw a great Asian Psylocke.

I agree. Even though im biased to the british form. The writting for her back then was GREAT!. then it all fell apart.

[Tazirai]

Taking out the Human Torch. Look how fast she's Analyzed the situation.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/tazirai/087.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/tazirai/088.jpg


Some of that "Evil" in her.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/tazirai/044.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/tazirai/PSYLOCKE_014_by_psylockefans.jpg

[Tazirai]

taking on more than one.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/tazirai/psylocke217-3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/tazirai/psylocke217-4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/tazirai/psylocke217-5.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/tazirai/psylocke217-6.jpg

[Tazirai]

Her vs Jean
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/tazirai/Psylocke-versus-Jean.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/tazirai/lastscan.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/tazirai/lastscan2.jpg

[Tazirai]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/tazirai/webava1-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/tazirai/psy.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/tazirai/psyA.jpg

[psycwave]

Tazirai let me tell you that last night I went all the way back to page one of this thread and read every page until i came to the most recent made me heart smile. It was wondrous. Even when it only seemed to be the same nine fans, myself, you, cgar, cmx, metalgorgomon, Phil Hunn, saturius, eurazn, and .LuckyStar.(with occasional visits from Steven F. and Domo Goddess) the Betsy convo was always superb. But now we have an even bigger array of fans(Aguja, Selene, Darkchylde, etc.) which i am very grateful. I love you all for loving Betsy the way you do.

And celestialbodies, welcome to Psylocke fandom!!

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/psylocke%20only/028.jpg

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/psylocke%20only/099.jpg

[Selene]

Good stuff here. This was back when Asian Psylocke was a dark horse among the X-Men. Loved it. If only subsequent writers had followed up on the plot of Psylocke possibly being a sleeper agent for the Hand. I know Claremont later said she wasn't, but it would have been cool to see how other writers would have explored that rather than the Kwannon/Revanche retcon mess that came later.

And look! Asian Psylocke really IS Asian Psylocke, not Ambiguous Psylocke Who May or May Not Be Asian Depending on the Artist! Jim Lee (or is this Silvestri?) sure knew how to draw a great Asian Psylocke.
Totally agreed.If the writers had explored how much the physical transformation had impacted Psylocke's personality and not just her looks,everything would be fine.

I bet that the main purpose of the Revanche retcon was to clear out that Asian Betsy was here to stay,yet it rather infuriated the fans and it complicated Psylocke even more.
JUST to keep fans happy for both the British and the Asian form.
Well,it sure would not make me happy.
Bring Kwannon back to her birth body and vice versa. BUT I wish she'd stay dead 4 ever.:biggrin:
Me,too.As I've said,having around another character who is in Psylocke's body(the most recognizable one)would complicate her furtherly.

[Selene]

Tazirai let me tell you that last night I went all the way back to page one of this thread and read every page until i came to the most recent made me heart smile. It was wondrous. Even when it only seemed to be the same nine fans, myself, you, cgar, cmx, metalgorgomon, Phil Hunn, saturius, eurazn, and .LuckyStar.(with occasional visits from Steven F. and Domo Goddess) the Betsy convo was always superb. But now we have an even bigger array of fans(Aguja, Selene, Darkchylde, etc.) which i am very grateful. I love you all for loving Betsy the way you do.
*curtsies* To quote a friend of mine on the Comixfan forums,"I aim to please where Psylocke is concerned". :smile:

[cgar]

all im gonna say is she needs to do that psycho blast on Spiral again. FULL OF WIN...it was

[psycwave]

all im gonna say is she needs to do that psycho blast on Spiral again. FULL OF WIN...it was

I would love to see Psylocke psycho blast the following people: Spiral, Kwannon, Elektra, and Rockslide(beacuse i could see him making some crude comment).

[Selene]

all im gonna say is she needs to do that psycho blast on Spiral again. FULL OF WIN...it was
That was in New Mutants:Annual #2,huh?

[psycwave]

That was in New Mutants:Annual #2,huh?

But of course!

[Aguja]

All those old scans make me sad. They are awesome, but I just makes me miss her having telepathy. There has NEVER been another telepath with such a unique psi signature. My interest in the character just kind of waned after she got TK. I mean I still liked her a lot, but it just wasn't the same. That is why whatever the body I need her to be telepathic again.

[eurazn]

Tazirai let me tell you that last night I went all the way back to page one of this thread and read every page until i came to the most recent made me heart smile. It was wondrous. Even when it only seemed to be the same nine fans, myself, you, cgar, cmx, metalgorgomon, Phil Hunn, saturius, eurazn, and .LuckyStar.(with occasional visits from Steven F. and Domo Goddess) the Betsy convo was always superb. But now we have an even bigger array of fans(Aguja, Selene, Darkchylde, etc.) which i am very grateful. I love you all for loving Betsy the way you do.

And celestialbodies, welcome to Psylocke fandom!!

Awww! Psyc, that was a very nice post! I've loved the discussions we've had in this thread and the memories you've all brought to mind again of one of my favorite X-people EVER.

And yes, welcome to celestialbodies and all the new fans to this thread! There are great posters here.

BTW, Psyc, I <3 "Diva X" like nobody else's business!!!

all im gonna say is she needs to do that psycho blast on Spiral again. FULL OF WIN...it was

I would love to see Psylocke psycho blast the following people: Spiral, Kwannon, Elektra, and Rockslide(beacuse i could see him making some crude comment).

LOL! Agreed. I love how the psycho blast was like the psychic butterfly on AGGRO MENTAL STEROIDS. It was the deadly side of Psylocke that she only used under the most dire of circumstances, when an English lady could turn into a badass in less than two seconds!

All those old scans make me sad. They are awesome, but I just makes me miss her having telepathy. There has NEVER been another telepath with such a unique psi signature. My interest in the character just kind of waned after she got TK. I mean I still liked her a lot, but it just wasn't the same. That is why whatever the body I need her to be telepathic again.

Yes, her psychic butterfly was ICONIC regardless of whatever body she was inhabiting at the time. I miss that look, too, in addition to all the skills and strategy that went along with it.

[cgar]

psyc-that was nice what you said earlier. or wrote i mean ;)

So someone should send Fraction a link to this messageboard. So he can analyze and study how to make her awesome again. cuz right now he's FoF.
Or Carey can just snatch her up already lol adios kids

be back after class

[Drey]

LOL! Agreed. I love how the psycho blast was like the psychic butterfly on AGGRO MENTAL STEROIDS. It was the deadly side of Psylocke that she only used under the most dire of circumstances, when an English lady could turn into a badass in less than two seconds!

I loved the butterfly signature as well. I also liked Alan Davis' rendition of the "super" psycho-blast that came from Spiral posing as Betsy in New Mutants Annual #2 when she confronted Doug Ramsey and Warlock inside Betsy's mind. It was like a huge butterfly effect around her body with a huge energy blast coming from her hands. One thing I've always loved about AD's work are his power effects.

in addition to all the skills and strategy that went along with it.

I agree. It was nice to see her using her mind not only just to use her powers, but her wits too.

Psycwave- Here's to hoping for many more awesome Betsy conversations. *toasts* :biggrin:

[Askanipsion]

One thing I've always loved about AD's work are his power effects.





Yeah always loved how he drew Rachel's Phoenix signature. To me he is still the best drawer of Brian, NIghtcrawler & Meggan.

[CmX]

psyc-that was nice what you said earlier. or wrote i mean ;)

So someone should send Fraction a link to this messageboard. So he can analyze and study how to make her awesome again. cuz right now he's FoF.
Or Carey can just snatch her up already lol adios kids

be back after class

If you get a chance to post a question above all please ask for a new costume or that someone like Dodson designs something for Psylocke to wear that isn't the Jim Lee outfit. Pleeeeeease. :) At this point I'm over which body she lands in, just as long as she gets a decent design.

[psycwave]

Here is a pic of Asian Betsy drawn by David Yardin, and while I may not be the biggest fan os Asian Betts I love the man's art. You can tell he tried to add a bit of her european features in there showing that he took a more eurasian pathway to his Betsy drawing. I mean she was supposed to be more eurasian in the beginning anyway. I like it.

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/Psylocke_Con_Sketch_by_davidyardin.jpg
http://davidyardin.deviantart.com/gallery/#_featured--5

[Daniel Mengsk]

All those old scans make me sad. They are awesome, but I just makes me miss her having telepathy. There has NEVER been another telepath with such a unique psi signature. My interest in the character just kind of waned after she got TK. I mean I still liked her a lot, but it just wasn't the same. That is why whatever the body I need her to be telepathic again.

But just telepathy, right? For a while, I was into this whole TP/TK Betsy thing, but seeing those scans made me want her back as a pure telepath, she was so damn awsome back then.

[kk1]

In a Claremont interview in the Forever thread, he hints British Betsy will be back in that book (or even a new version like a blonde Asian version).

[Darkchylde]

In a Claremont interview in the Forever thread, he hints British Betsy will be back in that book (or even a new version like a blonde Asian version).

I took that quote to mean that Psylocke won't be Kwannon'd in his book, meaning his original vision for her - brainwashed by the Hand and altered to look Asian, NOT transferred in another body - will be intact. Remember, by the end of X-Men # 3, Betsy is still Asian Psylocke.

I am curious, however, if Claremont will eventually address his plans for Betsy. It's common knowledge now that Betsy's transformation to Asian Psylocke was meant to be temporary - will Claremont revisit that plot in his new book?

Admittedly, I'm a fan of Asian Psylocke more than I am of British Betsy (though she was pretty hardcore during her heyday), and am hoping she's the one that sticks around following this craptastic 'Sisterhood' arc in Uncanny X-Men, but it'd be really cool to see what direction Claremont would (or will) have taken Psylocke in, in X-Men Forever.

Off-topic: with all these scans of British Betsy using her awesome telepathy, does anyone have scans of Asian Psylocke using the butterfly effect when engaging her psychic powers? There are a few issues that come to mind (see: X-Men # 1-3), but I know there are others. Thanks!

[Tazirai]

Tazirai let me tell you that last night I went all the way back to page one of this thread and read every page until i came to the most recent made me heart smile. It was wondrous. Even when it only seemed to be the same nine fans, myself, you, cgar, cmx, metalgorgomon, Phil Hunn, saturius, eurazn, and .LuckyStar.(with occasional visits from Steven F. and Domo Goddess) the Betsy convo was always superb. But now we have an even bigger array of fans(Aguja, Selene, Darkchylde, etc.) which i am very grateful. I love you all for loving Betsy the way you do.

And celestialbodies, welcome to Psylocke fandom!!

You are correct Psyc. We have a growing following. it's also good to See people becoming more interested in her pre asian side. Makes me smile. Also a good welcome to all her "new" fans, of either form.

[Tazirai]

In a Claremont interview in the Forever thread, he hints British Betsy will be back in that book (or even a new version like a blonde Asian version).

Oh wow. He gets to write her .................agian.:rolleyes: XD.

heres hoping he will do her justice in that book.

[Tazirai]

I took that quote to mean that Psylocke won't be Kwannon'd in his book, meaning his original vision for her - brainwashed by the Hand and altered to look Asian, NOT transferred in another body - will be intact. Remember, by the end of X-Men # 3, Betsy is still Asian Psylocke.

I am curious, however, if Claremont will eventually address his plans for Betsy. It's common knowledge now that Betsy's transformation to Asian Psylocke was meant to be temporary - will Claremont revisit that plot in his new book?

Admittedly, I'm a fan of Asian Psylocke more than I am of British Betsy (though she was pretty hardcore during her heyday), and am hoping she's the one that sticks around following this craptastic 'Sisterhood' arc in Uncanny X-Men, but it'd be really cool to see what direction Claremont would (or will) have taken Psylocke in, in X-Men Forever.

Off-topic: with all these scans of British Betsy using her awesome telepathy, does anyone have scans of Asian Psylocke using the butterfly effect when engaging her psychic powers? There are a few issues that come to mind (see: X-Men # 1-3), but I know there are others. Thanks!


If she's to stay around long term. lets hope CC, will focus on what his old plans were. That would be kinda cool to see what direction she would have gone in after the transformation and all that.

British or Asian Im Excited as Scotty would Say.

http://www.filmdope.com/Gallery/ActorsP/46551-27474.gif

[Selene]

Darkchylde,I'm preety sure that there are a lot,but I think that these are the only panels I've scanned with the butterfly effect.

http://i466.photobucket.com/albums/rr21/Roguish-eyed/X-CutionersSongBetsy.jpg

http://i466.photobucket.com/albums/rr21/Roguish-eyed/WarrenBetsyPsy-link.jpg

http://i466.photobucket.com/albums/rr21/Roguish-eyed/Jacket.jpg

http://i466.photobucket.com/albums/rr21/Roguish-eyed/CrimsonDawn.jpg

http://i466.photobucket.com/albums/rr21/Roguish-eyed/CrimsonDawnII.jpg

http://i466.photobucket.com/albums/rr21/Roguish-eyed/CrimsonDawnI.jpg

http://i466.photobucket.com/albums/rr21/Roguish-eyed/MuirIslandBetsy.jpg

[Darkchylde]

Darkchylde,I'm preety sure that there are a lot,but I think that these are the only panels I've scanned with the butterfly effect.

http://i466.photobucket.com/albums/rr21/Roguish-eyed/X-CutionersSongBetsy.jpg

http://i466.photobucket.com/albums/rr21/Roguish-eyed/WarrenBetsyPsy-link.jpg

http://i466.photobucket.com/albums/rr21/Roguish-eyed/Jacket.jpg

http://i466.photobucket.com/albums/rr21/Roguish-eyed/CrimsonDawn.jpg

http://i466.photobucket.com/albums/rr21/Roguish-eyed/CrimsonDawnII.jpg

http://i466.photobucket.com/albums/rr21/Roguish-eyed/CrimsonDawnI.jpg

http://i466.photobucket.com/albums/rr21/Roguish-eyed/MuirIslandBetsy.jpg


Excellent! Thank you so much for the scans, Selene!

[Selene]

If she's to stay around long term. lets hope CC, will focus on what his old plans were. That would be kinda cool to see what direction she would have gone in after the transformation and all that.

British or Asian Im Excited as Scotty would Say.

http://www.filmdope.com/Gallery/ActorsP/46551-27474.gif
Agreed,but...Honestly,if I had to choose,I'd pick the British one...Recently Mr.Claremont has given me the impression that he has forgotten how to write a good ninja Psylocke. :frown: I'd rather see old school Betsy(with or without martial arts).

But,more importantly!I want her to be a telepath. :smile:

[Selene]

Excellent! Thank you so much for the scans, Selene!
No problem. :smile:

[Tazirai]

Agreed,but...Honestly,if I had to choose,I'd pick the British one...Recently Mr.Claremont has given me the impression that he has forgotten how to write a good ninja Psylocke. :frown: I'd rather see old school Betsy(with or without martial arts).

But,more importantly!I want her to be a telepath. :smile:

Same here.

[Aguja]

Darkchylde,I'm preety sure that there are a lot,but I think that these are the only panels I've scanned with the butterfly effect.

http://i466.photobucket.com/albums/rr21/Roguish-eyed/X-CutionersSongBetsy.jpg

http://i466.photobucket.com/albums/rr21/Roguish-eyed/WarrenBetsyPsy-link.jpg

http://i466.photobucket.com/albums/rr21/Roguish-eyed/Jacket.jpg

http://i466.photobucket.com/albums/rr21/Roguish-eyed/CrimsonDawn.jpg

http://i466.photobucket.com/albums/rr21/Roguish-eyed/CrimsonDawnII.jpg

http://i466.photobucket.com/albums/rr21/Roguish-eyed/CrimsonDawnI.jpg

http://i466.photobucket.com/albums/rr21/Roguish-eyed/MuirIslandBetsy.jpg

Very pretty. Joe Mad drew my favorite butterfly effect. It's not a part of this but I love that shot of her using it to talk to stupid Boom Boom right before stupid Boom Boom frees Sabertooth.

[eurazn]

Darkchylde,I'm preety sure that there are a lot,but I think that these are the only panels I've scanned with the butterfly effect.

http://i466.photobucket.com/albums/rr21/Roguish-eyed/X-CutionersSongBetsy.jpg

http://i466.photobucket.com/albums/rr21/Roguish-eyed/WarrenBetsyPsy-link.jpg

http://i466.photobucket.com/albums/rr21/Roguish-eyed/Jacket.jpg

http://i466.photobucket.com/albums/rr21/Roguish-eyed/CrimsonDawn.jpg

http://i466.photobucket.com/albums/rr21/Roguish-eyed/CrimsonDawnII.jpg

http://i466.photobucket.com/albums/rr21/Roguish-eyed/CrimsonDawnI.jpg

http://i466.photobucket.com/albums/rr21/Roguish-eyed/MuirIslandBetsy.jpg

She's not front and center in this pic, but I thought the effect looked neat:

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d67/wairata/butterfly.jpg

[Aguja]

She's not front and center in this pic, but I thought it looked neat:

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d67/wairata/butterfly.jpg

Ah that is the scan I loved, thank you eurazn <3

[eurazn]

Ah that is the scan I loved, thank you eurazn <3

LOL, I didn't see your post regarding this particular scene until after I posted my image. We are of one mind here on the Psylocke thread, aren't we? :cool:

It's too bad Betsy didn't just seize control of Boom-Boom's mind in that scene and forced her to leave the cell. Betsy could have avoided a gutting!

[Aguja]

LOL, I didn't see your post regarding this particular scene until after I posted my image. We are of one mind here on the Psylocke thread, aren't we? :cool:

It's too bad Betsy didn't just seize control of Boom-Boom's mind in that scene and forced her to leave the cell. Betsy could have avoided a gutting!

True. Original Betsy would have done that. That issue is the reason I dislike Boom Boom and revel in her death. Her lust for Sabertooth almost got Betsy killed.

[Askanipsion]

That issue is the reason I dislike Boom Boom and revel in her death. .

How did Boom Boom die?

[eurazn]

True. Original Betsy would have done that. That issue is the reason I dislike Boom Boom and revel in her death. Her lust for Sabertooth almost got Betsy killed.

EXACTLY. Original Betsy did what she had to do to protect her friends AND defeat her enemies, even if it meant telepathically influencing people.

How did Boom Boom die?

She was shot in the head. It happened recently in X-Force.

[Azure]

WTF are you saying about Boom Boom, y'all?

[Askanipsion]

She was shot in the head. It happened recently in X-Force.

Oh wow I really need to start buying X-force...hmmm so there was a "Boom" and Boom Boom died....

Only reason I am not is I really don't like the people on the team except Domino. I would like to see Rachel Summers join the team as she has always been "hardcore" like the other members of X-Force. She really doesn't have a place after War of Kings so she would be great there since Betsy will be in Uncanny and Emma....well it seems she won't be on the team anymore.....

They need to send Rahne to New Muties.

[eurazn]

Oh wow I really need to start buying X-force...hmmm so there was a "Boom" and Boom Boom died....

Only reason I am not is I really don't like the people on the team except Domino. I would like to see Rachel Summers join the team as she has always been "hardcore" like the other members of X-Force. She really doesn't have a place after War of Kings so she would be great there since Betsy will be in Uncanny and Emma....well it seems she won't be on the team anymore.....

They need to send Rahne to New Muties.

I agree, there aren't any characters on X-Force I'm particularly fond of, but there are quite a few people who swear by the book. To each his/her own!

I will readily admit I can't stand Rachel. I would have started to tolerate her if she actually destroyed the Shi'ar responsible for murdering her entire family, but we all know how that played out. She would have been a good fit for X-Force had she either reverted to her Hound origins or had the "balls" to avenge her family. As she is now, I don't think she's hard core enough to fit.

The Cuckoos, despite their perma-grins in Uncanny, are a better fit for X-Force since they're emotionless and calculated. Every team ought to have a telepath, IMO, since they're good for coordinating battles and detecing enemies, etc.

[Askanipsion]

I agree, there aren't any characters on X-Force I'm particularly fond of, but there are quite a few people who swear by the book. To each his/her own!

I will readily admit I can't stand Rachel. I would have started to tolerate her if she actually destroyed the Shi'ar responsible for murdering her entire family, but we all know how that played out. She would have been a good fit for X-Force had she either reverted to her Hound origins or had the "balls" to avenge her family. As she is now, I don't think she's hard core enough to fit.

The Cuckoos, despite their perma-grins in Uncanny, are a better fit for X-Force since they're emotionless and calculated. Every team ought to have a telepath, IMO, since they're good for coordinating battles and detecing enemies, etc.

Rachel is my favorite X-Man but I am really disgusted how they have handled her. She has been turned into wallpaper. Taking upon the "Marvel Girl" name & costume was a step back for her.....it pushed her even more into Jean's shadow.

In the Askani future, Rachel was a badass....I want THAT Rachel....she took on Apocalypse by herself!

I blame the "Claremont Curse" on her....when she returned in Uncanny, she suddenly acted like she didn't know her powers. She was constantly being knocked out EVERY single fight. Then they turned her into a dinosaur! :mad:

Then she went into space.....she acquired the "Blue" Phoenix and actually started kicking butt! Then they ripped the "Blue" from her and now once again all she can do is stand around......what a disgrace.

I did like when Betsy and Ray teamed up in Uncanny though in "M" storyline and I liked seeing them grow a bond.....too bad that didn't last.

It all falls down to who writes her....same with Betsy. You get an awful writer and it can destroy the character.

I think if Ray got a chance in X-Force, she might be able to shine again.

Lets hope Betsy gets to shine again.....so far the light is pretty dim but I am holding out hope.

[CmX]

How did Boom Boom die?

The Leper Queen used her as bait for X-Force. Leper Queen wants to die, but can't because of Bastion's will over her so when X-Force showed up to take out Leper Queen they found Boom Boom tied up with Leper Queen's gun to her head. Leper Queen was sure they'd kill her, but before they could make their move Cyclops teleported them out of there and into the future. The Leper Queen was left disappointed because she was still living, as Bastion's pawn and shot Boom Boom in the head.

[Leogam]

I know Merlin & Roma chose Brian to be Captain Britain, but have they ever really shown any interest in Betsy at all as well ? can it be said that Betsy only played supporting roles in the Captain Britain series

[CmX]

Well yeah Betsy was just a supporting role in Brian's original series. I'm not too sure that Merlin or Roma have ever shown interested in Psylocke.

[Leogam]

Well then I think Betsy does not have any magical connection unlike her brother. There fraternal twins so I think Betsy was born a latent mutant only !! and Brian was born human who was magically enhanced (it's possible, there not identical)
I think she always wanted to make a life out for herself, out of her brothers shadow

[Askanipsion]

The Leper Queen was left disappointed because she was still living, as Bastion's pawn and shot Boom Boom in the head.

Hah! That is funny!!

Maybe they should give Pixie to the Leper Queen! With Pixie gone, Betsy can have some attention in Uncanny! :biggrin:

[timbox]

http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs44/f/2009/143/0/2/Psylocke_sketchcard_by_Csyeung.jpg

http://csyeung.deviantart.com/art/Psylocke-sketchcard-123454440


http://fc01.deviantart.com/fs42/f/2009/143/6/0/Psylocke_exiles_sketchcard_by_Csyeung.jpg

http://csyeung.deviantart.com/art/Psylocke-exiles-sketchcard-123454313

[lockerogue]

Why couldn't they have just stuck with her New Exiles costume.

[kk1]

I know Merlin & Roma chose Brian to be Captain Britain, but have they ever really shown any interest in Betsy at all as well ? can it be said that Betsy only played supporting roles in the Captain Britain series

She WAS Captain Britain for awhile and got almost beat to death, that's how she lost her eyes.

[kk1]

Well then I think Betsy does not have any magical connection unlike her brother. There fraternal twins so I think Betsy was born a latent mutant only !! and Brian was born human who was magically enhanced (it's possible, there not identical)
I think she always wanted to make a life out for herself, out of her brothers shadow


She had her own life and Brian was killed by the Fury and was enhanced after he was resurrected so he could defeat Mad Jim Jaspers. And neither of them are mutants their mother is human but their father is from "Otherworld" where Roma lives.

[Aguja]

Why couldn't they have just stuck with her New Exiles costume.

Indeed. It was rendered beautifully in Sword of the Braddock's.

I love the second picture posted by timbox

[Leogam]

She had her own life and Brian was killed by the Fury and was enhanced after he was resurrected so he could defeat Mad Jim Jaspers. And neither of them are mutants their mother is human but their father is from "Otherworld" where Roma lives.

Yea but he's genetically a human being who was born & raised in Otherworld/ Avalon. I still think Betsy was a latent mutant nothing about her powers says otherwise

[Leogam]

She WAS Captain Britain for awhile and got almost beat to death, that's how she lost her eyes.


She only became Captain Britain by default cause she was pressured by the agents of the R.C.X. she wasnt approached in the same manner like brian was

[CmX]

Her New Exiles outfit by Grummett is my absolute favorite costume for Psylocke. I loved the colors, the choker, the HEELS, it was all very feminine which I loved and think that's a good look for Psylocke. She should be shown as very feminine, but when it comes down to it she can get deadly in a heartbeat. While Jim Lee's design is definitely a classic and was great looking when it was first shown it has totally shown it's age and doesn't have that same good look to it. Bottom line it's lost it's look IMO. I realized this when I saw Paul Pelletier draw her in Exiles. Betsy looked silly and didn't look like a threat.

[Aguja]

You know my main problem with Lee's costume was that over the years a lot of artists took really bad liberties with it. It was scant no doubt, but on the whole his rendition covered her bum. When I started seeing panels of Betsy with a thin line of ink between her butt cheeks is when I was fed up. And it was always the artists that made it a true thong that had her pushing it into the reader's face all the time.

[CmX]

You know my main problem with Lee's costume was that over the years a lot of artists took really bad liberties with it. It was scant no doubt, but on the whole his rendition covered her bum. When I started seeing panels of Betsy with a thin line of ink between her butt cheeks is when I was fed up. And it was always the artists that made it a true thong that had her pushing it into the reader's face all the time.

Yeah well I not only dislike it because of that aspect, but because it's so damn old and artists constantly just throw her back into it. It's the same though with Jean, Gambit, Wolverine, Nightcrawler, etc., They always end up back in the same outfit, I don't mind when they do that for video games or larger media projects due to marketing, but really those people don't read the comics so what does it matter?

And I LOVE Ed Benes (and I love Aguja ♥), but damn if he over sexes Psylocke. He loves drawing her, and her ass.

[Drey]

If you get a chance to post a question above all please ask for a new costume or that someone like Dodson designs something for Psylocke to wear that isn't the Jim Lee outfit. Pleeeeeease. :) At this point I'm over which body she lands in, just as long as she gets a decent design.

Yeah, I'm tired of the Hand outfit too.

But just telepathy, right? For a while, I was into this whole TP/TK Betsy thing, but seeing those scans made me want her back as a pure telepath, she was so damn awsome back then.

I still wouldn't mind if she ended up with both. If she did, I'd rather she display the level of power and creativity she displayed during the Aussie years telepathy-wise. As for the telekinesis, I'd be fine if she didn't keep it, but if she did I'd want the power drastically reduced to her only being able to amp up her strength/speed to increase the effectiveness of her martial arts skills and I liked the katana blade that could cut through solid objects.

I know Merlin & Roma chose Brian to be Captain Britain, but have they ever really shown any interest in Betsy at all as well ? can it be said that Betsy only played supporting roles in the Captain Britain series

Roma did manipulate the Crystal Palace's computers so that Heather Hudson would pick Betsy to be a part of the Exiles to safeguard the omniverse.

Well then I think Betsy does not have any magical connection unlike her brother. There fraternal twins so I think Betsy was born a latent mutant only !! and Brian was born human who was magically enhanced (it's possible, there not identical)
I think she always wanted to make a life out for herself, out of her brothers shadow

In the Excalibur mini that came out in 2000, it was said that both Betsy and Brian possessed the divine spark. Everyone knew that they'd be destined for glory. Jamie on the other hand didn't possess the divine spark--but yet he is still a very powerful being, moreso than both Brian and Betsy.

I think Betsy's power stemmed from her Otherworld genes originally, but ever since the introduction of Revanche, there's no doubt that she has an X-gene now because the British body died of the Legacy Virus (thanks to Spiral's manipulation of their genetic coding). So pretty much both bodies are part human, mutant, and Otherworldlian.

As for the New Exiles costume, I really liked it when it was drawn by Grummett. Other artists like Seely, made the top too low, barely covering her nipples.

[CmX]

Sweet so we all agree! If anyone has the urge to write to Marvel or write into one of the X-Positions that is potentially Psylocke-related or know of any places where creative heads are in charge of her, please do request a new design above all else! :)

[psycwave]

Well Betsy was never supposed to be a mutant, it was a retcon by CC. It was kinda thought that Roma only made Betsy appear as a mutant so she could join the X-men and would help lead to the formation of Excalibur. It could be said that hse is not a mutant and her telepathic abilities were a result of her otherworld heritage, but it was also stated that Betsy seemed stronger than the natural Otherworld telepaths. So you could say that Betsy is a human-muatnt or a Otherworld human-mutant. Giving her genes from each pool.

The Lee costumes had potenital but like Aguja said a lot of folks just couldnt oull it off the same way. Im all for a new costume design something that form fits so that it can accenuate her ninja skills and gives her free reign to move around but also doesnt show to much skin so that she becomes sex kitten again. I always thought the outfits given to Kwannon*UGH*were more suited for Betsy.

[Drey]

The Lee costumes had potenital but like Aguja said a lot of folks just couldnt oull it off the same way. Im all for a new costume design something that form fits so that it can accenuate her ninja skills and gives her free reign to move around but also doesnt show to much skin so that she becomes sex kitten again. I always thought the outfits given to Kwannon*UGH*were more suited for Betsy.

Yeah, I think it's high time Betsy got a full body suit.

[kk1]

Yea but he's genetically a human being who was born & raised in Otherworld/ Avalon. I still think Betsy was a latent mutant nothing about her powers says otherwise

NO in the CB TPB the computer specifically tells them they are 1/2 human their power comes from Otherworld. Page 106.

[Mr_Hellfire]

The Lee costumes had potenital but like Aguja said a lot of folks just couldnt oull it off the same way. Im all for a new costume design something that form fits so that it can accenuate her ninja skills and gives her free reign to move around but also doesnt show to much skin so that she becomes sex kitten again. I always thought the outfits given to Kwannon*UGH*were more suited for Betsy.
Indeed, let's do a bit of shopping:
http://th09.deviantart.com/fs7/300W/i/2005/200/4/1/New_Psylocke__by_Serge80.jpg (http://serge80.deviantart.com/art/New-Psylocke-20760811)
Now this is nice, just needs some personality.

http://th07.deviantart.com/fs12/300W/i/2006/310/7/1/Psylocke_by_The_Mirrorball_Man.jpg (http://the-mirrorball-man.deviantart.com/art/Psylocke-42599765)
This one's ok, not totally appealing, but it's got the personality.

http://fc00.deviantart.com/fs4/i/2004/233/d/5/Psylocke_number_1.png (http://pretty-cool-huh.deviantart.com/art/Psylocke-number-1-9942990)
Am I the only one that wishes this were a real series? Especially with Bruce Timm on it?
I think this one could be the winner, a bit more color added in places and it could work with any artist, yes?

Now just for the hell of it:
http://fc01.deviantart.com/images3/i/2004/100/9/6/Betsy___Psylocke___Braddock.jpg (http://alex200277.deviantart.com/art/Betsy-Psylocke-Braddock-6444591)
A bit cheesy, but if she were to be British again, would she not look wonderful with the British flag theme? I know, a bit Spice Girls, but still, I think she could pull it off, although this design is a bit plain.

[CmX]

Oh I miss Alex! Too bad she's far too interested in anime to make time for Psylocke.

[psycwave]

http://fc00.deviantart.com/fs4/i/2004/233/d/5/Psylocke_number_1.png (http://pretty-cool-huh.deviantart.com/art/Psylocke-number-1-9942990)
Am I the only one that wishes this were a real series? Especially with Bruce Timm on it?
I think this one could be the winner, a bit more color added in places and it could work with any artist, yes?
.

OMG This is most defientely my favorite!!!1 It has some secret agent, Hand ninja, X-vibe going on. I really love it. I could see this as a Lady Mandarin costume as well if she needed to revisit those roots.(MAKE IT HAPPEN MARVEL)

My only thing about it, is that it seems a bit...Sage like. But I love the straps and everything.

[Mr_Hellfire]

OMG This is most defientely my favorite!!!1 It has some secret agent, Hand ninja, X-vibe going on. I really love it. I could see this as a Lady Mandarin costume as well if she needed to revisit those roots.(MAKE IT HAPPEN MARVEL)

My only thing about it, is that it seems a bit...Sage like. But I love the straps and everything.
Mmm, it definitely should.
And I suppose, I don't know. Personally, I feel like Sage in a lot of ways became Psylocke when Claremont could not get her back. Like when he could, he traded in Sage and then *poof* resurrected Psylocke. Besides, now Sage is in the Exiles Omniverse, far removed from her old spy duties.

One other avenue I thought we might look at (I promise no more pics parade after this) is the way she was portrayed in Ultimate X-Men:
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/77/94040-60812-psylocke_super.jpg
Since the first time I laid eyes on that outfit, I've felt like there was an awesome costume that never was lurking in there.
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/6754/176930-18399-psylocke_super.jpg
That or we could do Sailor Psylocke(it's too bad she got that costume, I happen to LOVE Ultimate Psylocke).
While I don't love the costume, I think the color scheme has something to it that could be applied elsewhere. To me it's reminiscent of her first costume/

[Aguja]

Don't kill me but I kind of like that second outfit. I mean ultimate Psylocke never became a ninja right? I just know she transferred her mind into a dying Asian girl's body. So it suits her in that sense.

Is Ult Psylocke even alive? Or is she being killed in that mass cleansing of the ultverse?

[psycwave]

Mmm, it definitely should.
And I suppose, I don't know. Personally, I feel like Sage in a lot of ways became Psylocke when Claremont could not get her back. Like when he could, he traded in Sage and then *poof* resurrected Psylocke. Besides, now Sage is in the Exiles Omniverse, far removed from her old spy duties.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/6754/176930-18399-psylocke_super.jpg
That or we could do Sailor Psylocke(it's too bad she got that costume, I happen to LOVE Ultimate Psylocke).
While I don't love the costume, I think the color scheme has something to it that could be applied elsewhere. To me it's reminiscent of her first costume/

I did always like the Ultimate outfit but im not to sure how it fly in the 616. Besides I think its kinda young for Betsy. I mean at the time she was in the teenage body of Kwannon so it worked. It just says Young X-men too me.

While on the subject I would love for Betsy to make a return to her Hand origin. Maybe one of her missions as Lady Mandarin come back to haunt her so she has to return or they come looking for her. I would like to see how she goes about it in her original body(if she stays) and the Hand's reaction to their manipulation being undone. Would they still respect and listen to her like they once did and whatnot? I dont have a clear consice idea and im rambling. Back to the outfits!

[Mr_Hellfire]

Don't kill me but I kind of like that second outfit. I mean ultimate Psylocke never became a ninja right? I just know she transferred her mind into a dying Asian girl's body. So it suits her in that sense.

Is Ult Psylocke even alive? Or is she being killed in that mass cleansing of the ultverse?
I believe she slipped into the shadows after the telepathic call in Ult. X-Men #99 I think it was. I'm thinking she's too obscure for them to want to kill? Anywho, no mention made of her dying at this blog which even posted her minor moment in Ult. X-men: Psylocke Blog (http://psylocke-butterfly.blogspot.com/)
I assume she's alive.

And egh, I never hated the Sailor Betsy outfit, but I thought it could've been better.


While on the subject I would love for Betsy to make a return to her Hand origin. Maybe one of her missions as Lady Mandarin come back to haunt her so she has to return or they come looking for her. I would like to see how she goes about it in her original body(if she stays) and the Hand's reaction to their manipulation being undone. Would they still respect and listen to her like they once did and whatnot? I dont have a clear consice idea and im rambling. Back to the outfits!
I never got into The Hand stories with her, but that's probably because I've always leaned more towards British mind-zapping Betsy then Ninja ass-kicking Betsy.
I can see that turned into an interesting story, but I couldn't see her doing it solo. X-23 sidekick time?

[psycwave]

I never got into The Hand stories with her, but that's probably because I've always leaned more towards British mind-zapping Betsy then Ninja ass-kicking Betsy.
I can see that turned into an interesting story, but I couldn't see her doing it solo. X-23 sidekick time?

ZOMG YES!!! <3<3

[eurazn]

Mmm, it definitely should.
And I suppose, I don't know. Personally, I feel like Sage in a lot of ways became Psylocke when Claremont could not get her back. Like when he could, he traded in Sage and then *poof* resurrected Psylocke. Besides, now Sage is in the Exiles Omniverse, far removed from her old spy duties.

One other avenue I thought we might look at (I promise no more pics parade after this) is the way she was portrayed in Ultimate X-Men:
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/77/94040-60812-psylocke_super.jpg
Since the first time I laid eyes on that outfit, I've felt like there was an awesome costume that never was lurking in there.
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/6754/176930-18399-psylocke_super.jpg
That or we could do Sailor Psylocke(it's too bad she got that costume, I happen to LOVE Ultimate Psylocke).
While I don't love the costume, I think the color scheme has something to it that could be applied elsewhere. To me it's reminiscent of her first costume/

I liked the concept of her "psychic grenades." It was a new take on her psycho blast, but they were a little more fearsome because they just appeared out of NO where and *BOOM*.

It's too bad she was brought back into the team after the title had declined so much, though.

[Daniel Mengsk]

Just stick it out a bit longer! Atleast for Dodson next month, Fraction's Uncanny is a lot more tolerable with Dodson's issues. I don't think Fraction will last much long as writer IMO. Not saying I know anything, but I think things will change soon. We just got to be a bit patient.

I can't believe that no one has commented on this, don't you guys now that CmX is like Layla Miller - he "knows stuff" - didn't he predict that Betsy would be free from CC's meaningless Exile team like months in advanced? Lets hope that uncanny gets a writer that remembers that the X-team isn't just Emma/Scott/Logan+Pixie! Thank you for giving us hope CmX! :biggrin:

[CmX]

I can't believe that no one has commented on this, don't you guys now that CmX is like Layla Miller - he "knows stuff" - didn't he predict that Betsy would be free from CC's meaningless Exile team like months in advanced? Lets hope that uncanny gets a writer that remembers that the X-team isn't just Emma/Scott/Logan+Pixie! Thank you for giving us hope CmX! :biggrin:

Yeah it seems like no matter how much I've predicted posters still have their doubts. Ah well can't say I blame them.

[eurazn]

Yeah it seems like no matter how much I've predicted posters still have their doubts. Ah well can't say I blame them.

Oh, I saw the light long ago ... I believe you!

[Tazirai]

You know my main problem with Lee's costume was that over the years a lot of artists took really bad liberties with it. It was scant no doubt, but on the whole his rendition covered her bum. When I started seeing panels of Betsy with a thin line of ink between her butt cheeks is when I was fed up. And it was always the artists that made it a true thong that had her pushing it into the reader's face all the time.

THAT was what I disliked most about her costume from Lee. The way they only seemed to show Crotch and rear shots was annoying. I love women and love their forms. BUT when it's constantly shoved in your face, and no character development for said woman, it's annoying.

[Tazirai]

I never got into The Hand stories with her, but that's probably because I've always leaned more towards British mind-zapping Betsy then Ninja ass-kicking Betsy.
I can see that turned into an interesting story, but I couldn't see her doing it solo. X-23 sidekick time?

THAT would make for GREAT plot and character development. Give X-23 a feminine mentor, to culture her in the ways of a lady.:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:

[eurazn]

THAT would make for GREAT plot and character development. Give X-23 a feminine mentor, to culture her in the ways of a lady.:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:

And in femme fatale ass-kickery, of course :cool:

[Justin K.]

Is Ultimate Psylocke still alive?
I don't read Ultimate, so...

[CmX]

Yeah she is. She survived along with Firestar and Toad.

[x_goalkeeper]

Yeah it seems like no matter how much I've predicted posters still have their doubts. Ah well can't say I blame them.

CmX knows stuff! :cool:

metalgorgomon also knew stuff, like which psylocke pictures I would like as avatars.

[Mr_Hellfire]

THAT would make for GREAT plot and character development. Give X-23 a feminine mentor, to culture her in the ways of a lady.:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
It would be even better if it turned out that Kwannon was the main villain!

...What? Since 2004, Marvel has been extremely resurrect happy.
Not that I like it, I do vote going back to no resurrections for awhile. Except Jean. We need the X-Men's TRUE Headmaster to return.

Yeah she is. She survived along with Firestar and Toad.
But Ultimatum is not done, so there's still a chance that in one small panel Magneto is like, "Hey, guess what? I killed the few people left at Xavier's. LOLOWNED!"

[eurazn]

Yeah she is. She survived along with Firestar and Toad.

Dazzler (:mad: ) and Nightcrawler (:eek: couldn't he teleport away from the tidal wave?!) are among the dead, though.

CmX knows stuff! :cool:

metalgorgomon also knew stuff, like which psylocke pictures I would like as avatars.

I miss metalgorgomon/fellow Indonesian!

But Ultimatum is not done, so there's still a chance that in one small panel Magneto is like, "Hey, guess what? I killed the few people left at Xavier's. LOLOWNED!"

We need to not encourage these tiny panel cameos, lol. I think they figured it worked in the X-Men movies (*squeal, fanboy moment!*) and would translate well in comics.

[psycwave]

While stumbling around the net trying to find potential costumes for the lovely Ms. Braddock i found this.......

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/psylocke%20only/698226-psylocke_super.jpg

:eek: It scares me a little bit.

[Mr_Hellfire]

We need to not encourage these tiny panel cameos, lol. I think they figured it worked in the X-Men movies (*squeal, fanboy moment!*) and would translate well in comics.
Truth, I was just saying with all the death of Ultimatum with lack of sentiment, I just figure this the next step.

I miss Ult. Dazzler *tear*

As for the costume, I say 'tis nice, but I think the X on the chest is more of an Emma thing. I think if the hood and chest were more coordinated to Sage's Uncanny costume then it'd look better (I love that costume:P).

[CmX]

But Ultimatum is not done, so there's still a chance that in one small panel Magneto is like, "Hey, guess what? I killed the few people left at Xavier's. LOLOWNED!"

LOL I can totally see this happening.

[Tazirai]

While stumbling around the net trying to find potential costumes for the lovely Ms. Braddock i found this.......

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/psylocke%20only/698226-psylocke_super.jpg

:eek: It scares me a little bit.

Any woman balsy enough to walk up to me in that. deserves to kick my ass.:biggrin:

[Daniel Mengsk]

While stumbling around the net trying to find potential costumes for the lovely Ms. Braddock i found this.......

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/psylocke%20only/698226-psylocke_super.jpg

:eek: It scares me a little bit.

Looks a bit like AEon Flux. Not bad. :cool:

So, any chance that we will see a cameo appereance of Betsy in the Wolvie 2 movie? And I'm speaking of the Real Deal; British and telepathic, not the Revanche character from X3 (I will deny this character as being Betsy as long as I live!).

[Tazirai]

I think im gonna try and create a new costume for her this weekend. I'll do 3 drawings. try to mix in The Frilly one, The Armour, and MAYBE the revolution or hand outfits.

[4sake]

While stumbling around the net trying to find potential costumes for the lovely Ms. Braddock i found this.......

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/psylocke%20only/698226-psylocke_super.jpg

:eek: It scares me a little bit.

I wish this was her new costume :frown:

[eurazn]

While stumbling around the net trying to find potential costumes for the lovely Ms. Braddock i found this.......

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/psylocke%20only/698226-psylocke_super.jpg

:eek: It scares me a little bit.

There are some elements to the costume I like, such as the sleeves for instance. I think the pants/tights would look better if they were less saggy around the crotch area and if they didn't have the cut-outs. The hood is a nice homage to her Outback costume.

Truth, I was just saying with all the death of Ultimatum with lack of sentiment, I just figure this the next step.

I miss Ult. Dazzler *tear*

You are VERY right about that. There was a total disregard for sentiment in the end days of that title. Characters you had known for YEARS were killed off OFF-PANEL and in FLASHBACKS. Horrible. I followed that series from issue #1 all the way to its conclusion. Even Flinkman, who is a perpetual optimist, gave it a scathing review over in the Ultimate forums.

Any woman balsy enough to walk up to me in that. deserves to kick my ass.:biggrin:

LOL!

[Aguja]

While stumbling around the net trying to find potential costumes for the lovely Ms. Braddock i found this.......

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/psylocke%20only/698226-psylocke_super.jpg

:eek: It scares me a little bit.

I really like the hood. It seems like a throwback to her Aussi armor which I loved. But the rest of it seems better suited for her ninja abilities. It has the right amount of mystery about it and it's sexy without being over the top.

I honestly don't think they'll ever give her a re-design though. Most of her costumes rarely stick around. They always go back to Lee's version.

[kk1]

While stumbling around the net trying to find potential costumes for the lovely Ms. Braddock i found this.......



:eek: It scares me a little bit.

A few too many cut outs, I mean whats the point of those small strips?

[Aguja]

They will look pretty waving around as she beats people up on panel.

[CmX]

I really don't like anything about that costume. At all. I want something more similar to Davis' HoM design or Grummett's Exiles design. That thing looks so World of Warcraft/D&D-esque. Yuck.

[cgar]

Yeah it seems like no matter how much I've predicted posters still have their doubts. Ah well can't say I blame them.


Oh NO no No!

In CmX I TRUST!!

But watch them pull a Chuch Austen. How long did he stay?

And i loved the Psychic grenade from Ultimate. And i always wanted her to have TK butterflies. eh to cutesy but DEADLY

PSYCHIC BUTTERFLIES that psycho blasted your mind haha
a good artist could pull it off. and i know it Maaaan!!

[CmX]

Although I know her butterfly signature was associated with her using her telepathic abilities, I don't see how it still couldn't be shown when she used her TK as well. Emma, Hellion etc., have energy signatures to display their TK, I don't see why the butterfly wouldn't appear when she used her TK as well even if it's TK and not TP.

[cgar]

so where do we stand if she had both tp and tk. I dont know. some would say deus ex. But i wouldnt mind it

[CmX]

I don't want the TK. i never liked it, it doesn't suit Psylocke at all. She's supposed to be a warrior and agile, ninja. Now she's flying around, creating psychic katanas, rendering herself invisible and smashing mountains? Let's keep it simple, TP, psychic knife.

[psycwave]

Eh i dont mind the tk just want her to use it more effectively. If she has the tp and tk she should use them in a combat sense. You know augmenting her strength, stealh, using the tp as in the aussie days. She should be a combat tp and tk not "MOUTAINS SMASH" and "TELEPATHIC SLEEP".

[psycwave]

I think im gonna try and create a new costume for her this weekend. I'll do 3 drawings. try to mix in The Frilly one, The Armour, and MAYBE the revolution or hand outfits.

OHHH can't wait Taz!

[cgar]

the only time the tk stood out to me was in the flashback? in xtreme when she went against Rogue and Neal

[psycwave]

the only time the tk stood out to me was in the flashback? in xtreme when she went against Rogue and Neal

That was wonderful and how it should always be used. With the occasional shield, tk butterfly shurikens, and maybe some teke armor.

[cgar]

http://psylocke.club.fr/news/pic/psylockedesign.jpg

i always liked this one. too bad they didnt get to use it



My bad didnt know it was that big

[psycwave]

Im not to sure how fond I am of all the belts.

[cgar]

yah haha i was looking at that too. but i like the design. there may be too much going on but Betsy can pull it off eh ;)

[CmX]

I want her back on the New Exiles outfit or in Larroca's Xtreme outfit. Anything, but Lee's design. kthxplz

[Mr_Hellfire]

i always liked this one. too bad they didnt get to use it

It's because Tim Burton would've sued for thieving Edward Scissorhands' costume.

I don't really like this one, it doesn't really strike me as interesting.

[cgar]

It's because Tim Burton would've sued for thieving Edward Scissorhands' costume.

I don't really like this one, it doesn't really strike me as interesting.

ha that made me chuckle. good shit. it does remind me of scissorhands.

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/IGNPsylockeandRogue.jpg

I miss Rogue and Betsy together. Ok sorry CmX no more big pics i promise

[CmX]

lol I don't mind the big pics as much, what kills me is when everyone quotes the pic and it appears seven or eight times in one page.

[psycwave]

I miss Rogue and Betsy together. Ok sorry CmX no more big pics i promise

I miss all the Outback ladies together.

@CmX they just want more Betsy goodness.

[cgar]

i was looking thru some of the pages and was looking at one that had a pic of when Betsy took Colossus through the Seige Perilous...it was nice. i think i wanna see that friendship revisited.

[Askanipsion]

http://psylocke.club.fr/news/pic/psylockedesign.jpg

i always liked this one. too bad they didnt get to use it



My bad didnt know it was that big

Always loved that picture!

[psycwave]

i was looking thru some of the pages and was looking at one that had a pic of when Betsy took Colossus through the Seige Perilous...it was nice. i think i wanna see that friendship revisited.

I know what you mean. The friendships I want to be explored with Betts are:
Betsy-Outback women
Betsy-Colossus
Betsy-Nightcrawler
Betsy-Wolverine
Betsy-Elektra(OMG I WANT THEM TO MEET SOOOOOOOO BAD)

[Drey]

so where do we stand if she had both tp and tk. I dont know. some would say deus ex. But i wouldnt mind it

I wouldn't mind it if the telekinesis was drastically reduced to where she could only affect her body to enhance her strength and speed or create objects out of telekinetic energy.

But for what I'd limit her to, would she really need telekinetic abilities? Maybe not because she could arguably use telepathy to increase her strength and reflexes, though it'd probably only max out at peak human strength and reflexes versus the telekinetic superhuman strength and reflexes.

As for creating objects out of psychic energy, she can already create a knife and katana blade as a pure telepath. What I find interesting is that after Revanche died, Betsy started blocking physical objects with her katana in X-men #34 against the cloned Riptide.

With her powers increased, I wonder if Fabian Nicieza was going somewhere with that. It reminded me when Dani Moonstar was able to make tangible illusions to physically affect matter, but it wasn't telekinesis. Even Betsy's psycho-blasts were telepathic in nature, but still affected physical matter.

Food for thought I think.

[Leogam]

Always loved that picture!

was sal going to change her hair to black instead of purple, and her eyes from white & purple pupils to black & yellow pupils whats up with that ?

[cgar]

because she was going to come back bad. she was suppose to be Bogan's mystery telepath. and thats how was she was going to look. i dont think she was gonna stay that way. Just when she was under Bogans influence

[4sake]

To Psylocke fans

I've learned that she dated both Angel & Beast.
So what I'm wondering is which one did she date 1st?
Also which 1st did she did date when was British & which 1 did she date she was Asian & etc?
Did who did she date longer ?
Was she in love with either of them ?
Did she date either of them more than once?

[.LuckyStar.]

To Psylocke fans

I've learned that she dated both Angel & Beast.
So what I'm wondering is which one did she date 1st?
Also which 1st did she did date when was British & which 1 did she date she was Asian & etc?
Did who did she date longer ?
Was she in love with either of them ?
Did she date either of them more than once?

No. She never dated The Beast. lol Though they may have flirted with each other sometimes. She began dating Angel around X-Men #29-32 (1994), I think. She was already Asian. It lasted until X-Men #109 (2001).

When she was British, she dated Tom Lennox from STRIKE and Agent Gabriel from RCX. Then she had a thing for Cypher. Then flirted with Havok. After the body switch, she tried to seduce Cyclops. Then dated Warren. And then Neal (Thunderbird III). After her death/resurrection, she... uh... had sex with AoA Sabretooth!!! I guess that covers it.

[4sake]

No. She never dated The Beast. lol Though they may have flirted with each other sometimes. She began dating Angel around X-Men #29-32 (1994), I think. She was already Asian. It lasted until X-Men #109 (2001).

When she was British, she dated Tom Lennox from STRIKE and Agent Gabriel from RCX. Then she had a thing for Cypher. Then flirted with Havok. After the body switch, she tried to seduce Cyclops. Then dated Warren. And then Neal (Thunderbird III). After her death/resurrection, she... uh... had sex with AoA Sabretooth!!! I guess that covers it.

Ok thanks. I'd like to see her date Beast then. He seem very happy when she came back alive. (when he was licking her & etc during CC UNX run in like 2005)

[Aguja]

OMG no Beast please, especially horrible cat Beast. I could sort of stand Hank when he was an ape. But now I am firmly in the Beast must die camp. Also he forced himself on Betsy while doing a medical exam, highly unprofessional and disgusting.

[psycwave]

OMG no Beast please, especially horrible cat Beast. I could sort of stand Hank when he was an ape. But now I am firmly in the Beast must die camp. Also he forced himself on Betsy while doing a medical exam, highly unprofessional and disgusting.

This is true. NO BEAST PLZ!! Anyways thats only cause Hank admitted to wanking off to Betsy's pics when she was a model. He lusts for her but she wants noting to do with him than simply be his friend.

[eurazn]

http://psylocke.club.fr/news/pic/psylockedesign.jpg

i always liked this one. too bad they didnt get to use it



My bad didnt know it was that big

Im not to sure how fond I am of all the belts.

Now THIS design seems very D&D/Warcraft. The belts are a little odd and are like the stepchild of the utility belts/multiple pockets.

I miss all the Outback ladies together.

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d67/wairata/xladytrio.jpg

*sigh* Me, too ...! (sorry, Rogue fans, but she wasn't a part of the team anymore in the image above)

Ok thanks. I'd like to see her date Beast then. He seem very happy when she came back alive. (when he was licking her & etc during CC UNX run in like 2005)

OMG no Beast please, especially horrible cat Beast. I could sort of stand Hank when he was an ape. But now I am firmly in the Beast must die camp. Also he forced himself on Betsy while doing a medical exam, highly unprofessional and disgusting.

This is true. NO BEAST PLZ!! Anyways thats only cause Hank admitted to wanking off to Betsy's pics when she was a model. He lusts for her but she wants noting to do with him than simply be his friend.

4sake, Aguja and Psycwave speak TRUTH. And let me add my voice to the mix as I am a Dazzler fan and know first hand what DAMAGE that creature can do to X-Women! :biggrin:

[4sake]

4sake, Aguja and Psycwave speak TRUTH. And let me add my voice to the mix as I am a Dazzler fan and know first hand what DAMAGE that creature can do to X-Women! :biggrin:

Ok lol, I still like Beast, I like Psylocke also, Dazzler is ok to me.. I actually kind of liked Dazzler before I came on this board. A certain Dazzler super fan makes it very hard for me to like Dazzler or to really be a fan of hers.

[eurazn]

Ok lol, I still like Beast, I like Psylocke also, Dazzler is ok to me.. I actually kind of liked Dazzler before I came on this board. A certain Dazzler super fan makes it very hard for me to like Dazzler or to really be a fan of hers.

Maybe it's because he's involved with this Science Club storyline, but Beast has just been so painfully boring to me lately :frown:

As for Dazzler, she is a wondrous diva who brings together many divergent personalities/fans to worship at her altar. That being said, we Glitterati run the gamut of types. You can and should still like her because she speaks to YOU on a specific individual level, irrespective of whoever else likes her for his/her own reasons. To widen the picture, it wouldn't be fair to you as a fan of comics if an outsider came across this forum, found posts s/he didn't like and subsequently decided to dislike comics as a whole based on a few posters, right?

I like the different personality types on this board. There are some who are more passionate and vocal than others, but expression (even trolling, if done comically) can be appreciated for what it is.

I don't mean to hijack the Psylocke board, but since the topic came up ...!

Anyway, to reorient ourselves and focus again, why don't you weigh in on the British Psylocke vs. Asian Psylocke discussion ... it's always been a topic before, but now with the body-switching going on in UXM, I'm curious as to what your opinion is.

[Daniel Mengsk]

No. She never dated The Beast. lol Though they may have flirted with each other sometimes. She began dating Angel around X-Men #29-32 (1994), I think. She was already Asian. It lasted until X-Men #109 (2001).

When she was British, she dated Tom Lennox from STRIKE and Agent Gabriel from RCX. Then she had a thing for Cypher. Then flirted with Havok. After the body switch, she tried to seduce Cyclops. Then dated Warren. And then Neal (Thunderbird III). After her death/resurrection, she... uh... had sex with AoA Sabretooth!!! I guess that covers it.

Wasn't Betsy engaged with Matthew/Gabriel? Whatever happened to that dude?

[4sake]

Maybe it's because he's involved with this Science Club storyline, but Beast has just been so painfully boring to me lately :frown:

As for Dazzler, she is a wondrous diva who brings together many divergent personalities/fans to worship at her altar. That being said, we Glitterati run the gamut of types. You can and should still like her because she speaks to YOU on a specific individual level, irrespective of whoever else likes her for his/her own reasons. To widen the picture, it wouldn't be fair to you as a fan of comics if an outsider came across this forum, found posts s/he didn't like and subsequently decided to dislike comics as a whole based on a few posters, right?

I like the different personality types on this board. There are some who are more passionate and vocal than others, but expression (even trolling, if done comically) can be appreciated for what it is.

I don't mean to hijack the Psylocke board, but since the topic came up ...!

Anyway, to reorient ourselves and focus again, why don't you weigh in on the British Psylocke vs. Asian Psylocke discussion ... it's always been a topic before, but now with the body-switching going on in UXM, I'm curious as to what your opinion is.

The only Psylocke I really know & ever read about is the Asian version & I never read a comic with the British version in it (aspect for the some of the sans that are on this site), But with that said I REALLY HOPE she will be British again when the story line ends & that stay that way for the rest of he comic book life.

The stupidity & ignorance of some of they do at marvel no longer amazes me. making a white character to Asian character is yellow face & that that they keep the character like this for so long is really disrespectfully to both the Asian & British communities in my opinon.

I'm going to be really disappointed if she is Asian again after this story line. If she is I may drop uncanny x-men after the cross over. (Ive be reading it since 450, but i also got 428-434 & 442-443)

& what you said about Dazzler is true. I mostly kind of like her because her powers reminded me of some of my favorite amine characters & also I really like it when she had pink hair because it was different. Which reminds me I want to see Psylocke with pink hair again or at least with a mix of pink & purple.

[booga]

maybe she can be a halfster and you ppl will shut up.

[Selene]

No. She never dated The Beast. lol Though they may have flirted with each other sometimes. She began dating Angel around X-Men #29-32 (1994), I think. She was already Asian. It lasted until X-Men #109 (2001).

When she was British, she dated Tom Lennox from STRIKE and Agent Gabriel from RCX. Then she had a thing for Cypher. Then flirted with Havok. After the body switch, she tried to seduce Cyclops. Then dated Warren. And then Neal (Thunderbird III). After her death/resurrection, she... uh... had sex with AoA Sabretooth!!! I guess that covers it.
Wait,it's not really established if she actually did have sex with Creed in issue #18,is it?Oh,dear Lord,I hate Claremont's Psylocke...First,she dumps the handsome winged God Archangel for the likes of Thunderbird,then she turns to Sabretooth?!

With Warren transforming into Death,it would be fantastic if he and Betsy started flirting again with each other.Being subjected to various physical transformations and evolutions of her powers,she is,in my opinion,the only person who can really understand what Warren is going through at the moment.

I also want:
Rogue and Dazzler as Betsy's best friends.
Beast,Wolverine,Colossus and Nightcrawler as her close friends.
Elektra and Emma as her rivals!

[cgar]

I believe the man she was engaged to died protecting her. I could be wrong though

[psycwave]

When it comes to relatioships I did like Warren/Betsy together. It was fun, flirty, and rich! I did not approve of Neal Shaara. Her boyfriends back in her Captain Britain days were alright. Which reminds me I wouldn't mind seeing Vixen (http://www.marvel.com/universe/Vixen_(crimelord)) come back as one of Psylocke's old enemies. I mean she was also responsible for the destruction of S.T.R.I.K.E. which resulted in the death of Tom Lennox the man Betts was in love with.

[Tazirai]

because she was going to come back bad. she was suppose to be Bogan's mystery telepath. and thats how was she was going to look. i dont think she was gonna stay that way. Just when she was under Bogans influence

You know I'd like Psylocke to go one year without somebody taking over her mind. It would be so great. I mean to be a mental powerhouse and yet constantly always under someones influence HAS to be annoying.

Give her and Sage a break with all the being mind controlled and manipulated crap. Has Emma ever been dominated like that? I know chuck and Jean have. I guess that comes with the Psionic territory?


i always liked this one. too bad they didnt get to use it



My bad didnt know it was that big

Get rid of the belts and it's not that bad.

[Tazirai]

This is true. NO BEAST PLZ!! Anyways thats only cause Hank admitted to wanking off to Betsy's pics when she was a model. He lusts for her but she wants noting to do with him than simply be his friend.
LMAO so true. I remember when she came back he slapped her on the ass. That always made me chuckle.

[Daniel Mengsk]

You know I'd like Psylocke to go one year without somebody taking over her mind.

....or at least for two issues in a row. :rolleyes:

[psycwave]

LMAO so true. I remember when she came back he slapped her on the ass. That always made me chuckle.

I didnt know what to think. When he licked her neck then slapped her ass I was like WTF! Really CC that was just rude. LOL

[cgar]

you think Mark Millar would write a good betsy? He was suppose to take over the x-books. I wonder how that would of went. I know he favors certain xmen but i would of liked to see what he could of done with her

[celestialbodies]

You know what and excuse me if I'm too bold but I think Psylocke should stay British and become a top tier Telepath like she once was I mean just have her use her powers differently. Meaning maybe the Psi-blade on one opponent but maybe mind control on a group of them. To me she should be a psi up there with Emma and Jean because to be quite frank, she deserves it.

[psycwave]

You know what and excuse me if I'm too bold but I think Psylocke should stay British and become a top tier Telepath like she once was I mean just have her use her powers differently. Meaning maybe the Psi-blade on one opponent but maybe mind control on a group of them. To me she should be a psi up there with Emma and Jean because to be quite frank, she deserves it.

.........................................

I love you.

As for the Miller stuff I think he would have been pretty decent a writer. Im not sure how he feels about Psylocke but at the same time I feel he would give each character at least one moment to shine and pull their weight around the X-books. I at least think he would have been able to pull off the "rotating cast" aspect a lot better.

[Aguja]

It's been so long since Betsy has been written by different writers that I'm not sure what to expect. Fraction has not gotten off to a good start, but there is time. But really Carey is one of the few writers in recent memory that has come forward as a Psylocke fan, which I think is so important. But they didn't give her to him :confused:

[eurazn]

LMAO so true. I remember when she came back he slapped her on the ass. That always made me chuckle.

These panels are concrete EVIDENCE the two would not be cute together:

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d67/wairata/beastlickingpsylocke.jpg

Beast is a skeezer. Dazzler was already compromised due to emotional instability those many years ago; I refuse to let the same thing happen to Betsy.

[psycwave]

These panels are concrete EVIDENCE the two would not be cute together:

[MG]http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d67/wairata/beastlickingpsylocke.jpg[/IMG]

Beast is a skeezer. Dazzler was already compromised due to emotional instability those many years ago; I refuse to let the same thing happen to Betsy.

O em gee that is absolutely horrible.

[Obsidian Thought]

These panels are concrete EVIDENCE the two would not be cute together:

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d67/wairata/beastlickingpsylocke.jpg

Beast is a skeezer. Dazzler was already compromised due to emotional instability those many years ago; I refuse to let the same thing happen to Betsy.

I guess I'm the only one that finds that scene.....very....hot!!

[eurazn]

O em gee that is absolutely horrible.

The only redeeming aspect of that scene was that she was at least drawn to look Asian for a change. I tried VERY hard to find that silver lining.

I guess I'm the only one that finds that scene.....very....hot!!

Are you a furry, Obsidian? :wink:

[psycwave]

The only redeeming aspect of that scene was that she was at least drawn to look Asian for a change. I tried VERY hard to find that silver lining.


Mine was Beast admitting how worthless he was that he wasnt able to help and just watched as Betsy was murdered.

[Daniel Mengsk]

The only redeeming aspect of that scene was that she was at least drawn to look Asian for a change. I tried VERY hard to find that silver lining.

What's more disturbing is that he didn't even try to deny to Betsy that he gaved the same treatment to Colossus! :eek:

[eurazn]

Mine was Beast admitting how worthless he was that he wasnt able to help and just watched as Betsy was murdered.

Beast admitting his obvious uselessness was a rare gem. Maybe someday he'll realize that again at the conclusion of the epic Science Team story in UXM. Good call!

What's more disturbing is that he didn't even try to deny to Betsy that he gaved the same treatment to Colossus! :eek:

616 Colossus is so dull, the only fun to be derived would be from intense physical examination :tongue:

[Aguja]

I blame Kitty for ruining Colossus. I hate them together and am so thankful she is dead. But Fraction ruined him forever with that awful tattoo.

I hope he and Betsy reconnect. I miss the friendships in the X-titles. Betsy would have been the perfect person to get through to him about moving on over Kitty. But why do I even think this will happen? Piotr and Ali were friends too and they haven't even shared a scene, ugh.

[psycwave]

Thats because Fraction doesn't care about continuity.

OMG it really upsets me when people try to tell em something about Psylocke and they are so obviously wrong. Someone just tried to argue with me saying that Psylocke got her telekinetic powers from REVANCHE!!! WTF

[Aguja]

Thats because Fraction doesn't care about continuity.

OMG it really upsets me when people try to tell em something about Psylocke and they are so obviously wrong. Someone just tried to argue with me saying that Psylocke got her telekinetic powers from REVANCHE!!! WTF

LOL that is pretty bad. They clearly don't know much about Betsy or Kwannon then. Just tell them Kwannon's death date. She was long dead when the switch happened.

[Fatguy]

I blame Kitty for ruining Colossus. I hate them together and am so thankful she is dead.

OMG you just cast a spell on me. I....think I love you.

[psycwave]

LOL that is pretty bad. They clearly don't know much about Betsy or Kwannon then. Just tell them Kwannon's death date. She was long dead when the switch happened.

I know all I can do is educate. I have given issue references, abandoned plotlines, death dates, etc but they just dont want to listen! UGH. Im like guy you dont know more about psylocke than me. I achieved superfan status years ago! And everything you say is WRONG. So go DIAF.

Anyways back to the Psylocke goodness. If Betsy were to get her own mini type of thing would you rather it deal with:
a. her time as a british secret agent/model
b. her dealings as a Hand ninja all those months before Logan found her
c. a revisit with the Hand where they come back for her and she must go against them. Elektra fight/team-up included
d. multiple mini's with all of the above!!

[celestialbodies]

Okay I don't know too much about Fraction so excuse me if I'm wrong but I think for the Sisterhood arc certain characters not associated with Psylocke personally should have been excluded.

You know what, with Wolverine, Colossus, Storm, and Dazzler there maybe he could have given a homage to the Outback days by having them all work together to get Betsy back or something of that nature. I mean cause personally if everyone's correct in their saying maybe Scott, Emma, and Pixie could have sat this one out.

I mean it's not like they aren't the stars of the series to begin with. And one other note for a Psylocke well kinda ressurection arc maybe the story could revolve around her a little more. Bring in characters that means something to her and her to them to excite the emotional side of the story arc.

[infernohara]

I love all these images of Psylocke ya'll have put up! Its awesome stuff! I have a few questions for you fans:

Do you like Psylocke with her martial arts prowess or would you much rather have the british version with her trickery? Basically do you want both telepath and Ninja or do you miss just the telepath without the ninja aspects (which turns her back into relying on the knife more)

With British Betts back, should she have a new outfit or go back to one of her old digs and what color scheme would you choose to go with the new light purple hair?

Thanks!

[Askanipsion]

These panels are concrete EVIDENCE the two would not be cute together:

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d67/wairata/beastlickingpsylocke.jpg
.

Ugg that is NOT good.....I forgot all about this scene and it kinda grossed me out before.

[peopleofpaper]

These panels are concrete EVIDENCE the two would not be cute together:

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d67/wairata/beastlickingpsylocke.jpg

Beast is a skeezer. Dazzler was already compromised due to emotional instability those many years ago; I refuse to let the same thing happen to Betsy.

i hated that art, that arch, and that general creepyness factor for so many years. psylocke's last uncanny return was so fail to me but at least she had characterization. it was funny to see all the men go crazy over her like when Cannonball catches her, Beast licked her, i think Nightcrawler was really happy to see her too. i don't think any of the x-men even said her name in any of these newer issues. hopefully newer Psylocke won't be the team slut and Northstar takes that title.

[CmX]

I love all these images of Psylocke ya'll have put up! Its awesome stuff! I have a few questions for you fans:

Do you like Psylocke with her martial arts prowess or would you much rather have the british version with her trickery? Basically do you want both telepath and Ninja or do you miss just the telepath without the ninja aspects (which turns her back into relying on the knife more)

With British Betts back, should she have a new outfit or go back to one of her old digs and what color scheme would you choose to go with the new light purple hair?

Thanks!

Well regardless of which body Psylocke is in, she will always have her fighting skills. It's been instilled for so long that I don't see it ever going away. With that, my perfect Psylocke is back in British body, telepathy, precognition, her psychic knife but not too dependent on it mainly for visual purposes. And in any costume, but Jim Lee's blue hand outfit. I would be ecstatic. :)

[Bronze Badger]

Ugg that is NOT good.....I forgot all about this scene and it kinda grossed me out before.

I wonder if Beast goes into heat and tries to hump the legs of the other X-Men. I could just see Colossus hitting him with a rolled-up newspaper or Emma squirting him with a water bottle.

[Askanipsion]

I wonder if Beast goes into heat and tries to hump the legs of the other X-Men. I could just see Colossus hitting him with a rolled-up newspaper or Emma squirting him with a water bottle.

and all that blue fur everywhere....probably sticks to all their clothing.....they all have to carry lint brushes with them.....I wonder if he gets hairballs too?

Auntie Emma would NOT like stepping into nasty slimy hairballs with her boots.

[CmX]

and all that blue fur everywhere....probably sticks to all their clothing.....they all have to carry lint brushes with them.....I wonder if he gets hairballs too?

Auntie Emma would NOT like stepping into nasty slimy hairballs with her boots.

I wonder who has the task of cutting the shit out of Beast's fur? Japanese guy? Maybe that's a high honor in Japan.

[Mr_Hellfire]

hopefully newer Psylocke won't be the team slut and Northstar takes that title.
I'd like her to be flirtatious, but more in a mysterious way like how she was with Havok in the last part of the Australia years.

As for Northstar, I'd hate for him to be the team slut because than that's another stereotype hole we have to climb our way out of. BUT it would be nice if someone besides himself would say he's attractive.

[Drey]

I know all I can do is educate. I have given issue references, abandoned plotlines, death dates, etc but they just dont want to listen! UGH. Im like guy you dont know more about psylocke than me. I achieved superfan status years ago! And everything you say is WRONG. So go DIAF.

I think they might be trolling you on purpose if you've given specific examples.

Anyways back to the Psylocke goodness. If Betsy were to get her own mini type of thing would you rather it deal with:
a. her time as a british secret agent/model
b. her dealings as a Hand ninja all those months before Logan found her
c. a revisit with the Hand where they come back for her and she must go against them. Elektra fight/team-up included
d. multiple mini's with all of the above!!

D, all of the above!!!!

Do you like Psylocke with her martial arts prowess or would you much rather have the british version with her trickery? Basically do you want both telepath and Ninja or do you miss just the telepath without the ninja aspects (which turns her back into relying on the knife more)

I want a telepathic ninja that uses illusions to trick her opponents, using mind control when necessary as well as the psychic knife. I want her to be able to create a katana out of psychic energy too. It has more reach. Furthermore, I want the occasional precognitive flash and the psycho-blasts.

As for the body, I've mostly always leaned towards the Asian body because it's how I first knew the character. Before the recent switch I'd say keep her Asian, but since they switched her back to her original body I want her to stay that way. Don't need her any more complicated. I'd be pretty disappointed if they put her back Asian at the end of the arc because then I'd feel that it was even more pointless to switch her back in the beginning of the arc in the first place.

With British Betts back, should she have a new outfit or go back to one of her old digs and what color scheme would you choose to go with the new light purple hair?
Thanks!

She should have a full body suit like Revanche's cat suit. I'd change her color scheme to black and purple but it'd differ in design and there'd be a lot less straps. There was a nice example in New Exiles where she had a training uniform like that around issue #11 or #12.

[eurazn]

hopefully newer Psylocke won't be the team slut and Northstar takes that title.

Considering Northstar has only had one real love interest ("Nameless Black Boyfriend") in all the years he's come out, I doubt he'll be team slut anytime soon.

I wonder if Beast goes into heat and tries to hump the legs of the other X-Men. I could just see Colossus hitting him with a rolled-up newspaper or Emma squirting him with a water bottle.

Dogs > Beast. Period.

Here's some random Psylocke imagery for the day:

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d67/wairata/psylocke-hood.jpg

I loved when she was a creepy telepath; one never wanted to be on her bad side!

[Selene]

You know I'd like Psylocke to go one year without somebody taking over her mind. It would be so great. I mean to be a mental powerhouse and yet constantly always under someones influence HAS to be annoying.

Give her and Sage a break with all the being mind controlled and manipulated crap. Has Emma ever been dominated like that? I know chuck and Jean have. I guess that comes with the Psionic territory?
http://i466.photobucket.com/albums/rr21/Roguish-eyed/RogueRachel.jpg
You tell them,Rogue,ha-ha-ha...

As for me,I want her to be a psychic ninja girl with limited precognitive powers and the Crimson Dawn powers.Honestly,I don't mind which body she's in really,but since she was introduced to me with the Japanese one and since it's the body she prefers,I'd pick the Asian.But I want her to use her powers in more creative ways,e.g.,casting illusions,reading her foes' mind in order to predict their next move,becoming invisible or teleporting using the Dawn's energies and occasionally using her telepathy offensively by striking with her mind-blasts.NO katanas,NO telekinesis. :smile:

[peopleofpaper]

Considering Northstar has only had one real love interest ("Nameless Black Boyfriend") in all the years he's come out, I doubt he'll be team slut anytime soon.


this reminds me- i need to email Fraction my pitch of a Northstar / Colossus / Cyclops love triangle in X-men Divas: X-men Divos mini series

[Askanipsion]

Here's some random Psylocke imagery for the day:

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d67/wairata/psylocke-hood.jpg

I loved when she was a creepy telepath; one never wanted to be on her bad side!

I didn't like her as the "creepy" telepath as she started to seem too much like Raven from Titans.....it felt like it was being forced on her cause "Teen Titans" was selling so well at that time.

I want her in a catsuit that is black/dark purple - no mask, no headgear with dark purple hair

[Askanipsion]

I wonder who has the task of cutting the shit out of Beast's fur? Japanese guy? Maybe that's a high honor in Japan.

I think it should fall to Pixie.....she needs to clean his litterbox too cause there is NO way he would fit on a normal toilet!!

[CmX]

I thought she was a lot scarier looking with the Mandarin armor. She was always drentched in shadows, and had that headgear and the sharp armor it was badass.

[Askanipsion]

I thought she was a lot scarier looking with the Mandarin armor. She was always drentched in shadows, and had that headgear and the sharp armor it was badass.

Yeah she was badass as Lady Mandarin - that whole issue with her in that armor was awesome! That was my favorite Asian Betsy issue....and that cover.....just totally badass.

[Mr_Hellfire]

I thought she was a lot scarier looking with the Mandarin armor. She was always drentched in shadows, and had that headgear and the sharp armor it was badass.
I never liked that armor, it always seemed too clunky and in the way.
Even just the headgear, it's just too much.

[Selene]

I didn't like her as the "creepy" telepath as she started to seem too much like Raven from Titans.....it felt like it was being forced on her cause "Teen Titans" was selling so well at that time.

I want her in a catsuit that is black/dark purple - no mask, no headgear with dark purple hair
She just needs to remove that bloody cloak...The body armor would look as good as Lady Mandarin's armor,if it weren't for the hooded cloak.Oh,and I have no problem with the lavender hair.

[Daniel Mengsk]

I thought she was a lot scarier looking with the Mandarin armor. She was always drentched in shadows, and had that headgear and the sharp armor it was badass.

I loved the Armor, but it must have been hell for Betsy to be wearing it every time that she wanted to use a toilet; how on earth did she managed that? Some special opening mechanism built into the damn thing? :rolleyes:

[peopleofpaper]

She just needs to remove that bloody cloak...The body armor would look as good as Lady Mandarin's armor,if it weren't for the hooded cloak.Oh,and I have no problem with the lavender hair.

i love lavender hair. i don't think asian psylocke looks good with light purple hair though, i think i like asian psylocke with black hair because purple looks funny with the blue jim lee outfit with the red belt. too many clashy colors going on there. but it clashes with pink too so british betsy is just as much of a fashion hazard. i think if they keep her hair purpleish they should give her a black, grey, or purple costume. purple doesn't match many colors imo. my favorite costume of ninja psylocke that i wish they'd use is this one.

http://i41.tinypic.com/2qjhmip.jpg

[Askanipsion]

Hopefully the previews this week will show Betsy and not damn Pixie!!

I just want to know what body she will stay in so I can move forward with my life!!......yeah I am a geek <shrug> :rolleyes:

[CmX]

Hopefully the previews this week will show Betsy and not damn Pixie!!

I just want to know what body she will stay in so I can move forward with my life!!......yeah I am a geek <shrug> :rolleyes:

I know it! These past two months have been hell! Leaving us wondering how it will land. Only a week and a half to go!

[Drey]

Hopefully the previews this week will show Betsy and not damn Pixie!!

I just want to know what body she will stay in so I can move forward with my life!!......yeah I am a geek <shrug> :rolleyes:

When it comes to Betsy she owns us. There is no life beyond her. :tongue:

[Daniel Mengsk]

i love lavender hair. i don't think asian psylocke looks good with light purple hair though, i think i like asian psylocke with black hair because purple looks funny with the blue jim lee outfit with the red belt. too many clashy colors going on there. but it clashes with pink too so british betsy is just as much of a fashion hazard. i think if they keep her hair purpleish they should give her a black, grey, or purple costume. purple doesn't match many colors imo. my favorite costume of ninja psylocke that i wish they'd use is this one.

http://i41.tinypic.com/2qjhmip.jpg

Yeah, I remember that issue, wasn't it the one were Betsy was sneaking around Gambit's head for information while he was unconsious or something - yet he was able to detect and stop her?!? That's the thing I hate about Gambit as a character; sometimes he seemed to be more mentally powerful than "real" telepaths like Psylocke or even Prof. X! The writers loved making him the most powerful non-telepath in existance.

Hopefully the previews this week will show Betsy and not damn Pixie!!

I just want to know what body she will stay in so I can move forward with my life!!......yeah I am a geek <shrug> :rolleyes:

Sorry Askanipsion, but the word is that Pixie will be the one to save Betsy with her stupid Psi-Dagger! :mad:

And as for going forward with you life, I'm afraid that that wont happen, my guess is that Betsy for the years to come will be jumping back and forth between her two bodies. :wink:

[Mr_Hellfire]

I know it! These past two months have been hell! Leaving us wondering how it will land. Only a week and a half to go!
ARE YOU SERIOUS?!
That is F$&^ING HEAVEN!
I'm going to be totally honest, I have so much fun criticizing Fraction and Land in my blog that now it's something I'm excited for.
Like, I do wish for a better team, but for now I'm enjoying nitpicking them.

[peopleofpaper]

Yeah, I remember that issue, wasn't it the one were Betsy was sneaking around Gambit's head for information while he was unconsious or something - yet he was able to detect and stop her?!? That's the thing I hate about Gambit as a character; sometimes he seemed to be more mentally powerful than "real" telepaths like Psylocke or even Prof. X! The writers loved making him the most powerful non-telepath in existance.


yeah it was that issue. i almost wish he and Psylocke had a mental affair, they would be a hot couple. but i am a Rouge/Gambit fan so i don't wish too much.

[Askanipsion]

Sorry Askanipsion, but the word is that Pixie will be the one to save Betsy with her stupid Psi-Dagger! :mad:

And as for going forward with you life, I'm afraid that that wont happen, my guess is that Betsy for the years to come will be jumping back and forth between her two bodies. :wink:

I bet ya it will be Pixie who will stop Maddie with her stupid dagger. When the Phoenix Force comes to Earth to go into the person who called it, it will go into Pixie instead!

Pixie is now PHOENIX!!!!! :eek:

All the letters in Pixie are in Phoenix too!

[Daniel Mengsk]

yeah it was that issue. i almost wish he and Psylocke had a mental affair, they would be a hot couple. but i am a Rouge/Gambit fan so i don't wish too much.

Didn't he try to flirt with her when they were fighting the Imperial Guards on their first trip to the Shi'Ar Imperium? I remember that she was a bit, ehm..."cold" ...towards his advances though. :smile:

I will get him credit for avenging her though, after Fabian Cortez had attacked her with his power.

[Askanipsion]

and now Gambit is actually Remy PICARD!!! Claremont changed his last name for X-Men Forever....Picard??? Ugg just sounds wrong.....

Well I am curious to see how Claremont will handle Betsy in it.....since there was never a Kwannon.

I just hope he updates everyones' costumes....that time period had terrible costumes! <puke>

[KMar]

I bet ya it will be Pixie who will stop Maddie with her stupid dagger. When the Phoenix Force comes to Earth to go into the person who called it, it will go into Pixie instead!

Pixie is now PHOENIX!!!!! :eek:

All the letters in Pixie are in Phoenix too!

God, that will be the next step for Pixie. I am sick of getting how awesome Fraction thinks she is shoved down my throat. Imagine, if Fraction wrote Secret Invasion, it would have been Pixie that killed the skrull queen! I really hope pixie dies soon. The combination of Kitty Pryde innocence and wolverine savageness is such an epic fail.

[Daniel Mengsk]

I bet ya it will be Pixie who will stop Maddie with her stupid dagger. When the Phoenix Force comes to Earth to go into the person who called it, it will go into Pixie instead!

Pixie is now PHOENIX!!!!! :eek:

All the letters in Pixie are in Phoenix too!

EDIT: Never mind


and now Gambit is actually Remy PICARD!!! Claremont changed his last name for X-Men Forever....Picard??? Ugg just sounds wrong.....

Well I am curious to see how Claremont will handle Betsy in it.....since there was never a Kwannon.

I just hope he updates everyones' costumes....that time period had terrible costumes! <puke>

Even though Storm was claustrophobic, it apparently didn't stop her from wrapping herself into something that looked like a restraint jacket.

As for Betsy; how disgusting wasn't the Danger Room scenario where she, Gambit and Logan all had to walk in Sewage water? At least Gambit and Wolvie had pants on, Betsy was walking around in her thongkini for crying out loud!

[Askanipsion]

Even though Storm was claustrophobic, it apparently didn't stop her from wrapping herself into something that looked like a restraint jacket.

As for Betsy; how disgusting wasn't the Danger Room scenario where she, Gambit and Logan all had to walk in Sewage water? At least Gambit and Wolvie had pants on, Betsy was walking around in her thongkini for crying out loud!

In the X-Men Forever preview, Storm doesn't act like Storm.....so the rumor must be true! :wink: Can we do spoiler tags on here?

Well as for Asian Betts, she is a "dirty" girl and liked how the sewage felt I guess....eww....British Betsy would never had gone in sewage!!! :tongue:

[Obsidian Thought]

The only redeeming aspect of that scene was that she was at least drawn to look Asian for a change. I tried VERY hard to find that silver lining.



Are you a furry, Obsidian? :wink:

I don't know... if there's no hidden meaning to your question...yes I'm furry...as in I have body hair...but that's not why I find the pic hot.....

[eurazn]

I don't know... if there's no hidden meaning to your question...yes I'm furry...as in I have body hair...but that's not why I find the pic hot.....

No, I was just being silly ... this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Furry_fandom) is what I meant by "furry." I may have just corrupted you, though, so perhaps it was better when you didn't know what I meant :tongue:

EDIT: Apologies in advance if I offended, it was only meant as a joke.

[Mr_Hellfire]

I don't know... if there's no hidden meaning to your question...yes I'm furry...as in I have body hair...but that's not why I find the pic hot.....
Since apparently none of the twits on UrbanDictionary can be bothered to put a simple version that makes sense for this situation, I'll just put the highest rated one:

Furry
Possibly the strangest sub-culture in all of geekdom. Furries range from being harmless fans fascinated by anthropomorphic characters and animals, to immensely withdrawn or self-abosrbed persons who actually believe, or want to believe, they're eagle-winged fox-like versions of themselves with giant gentalia who wouldn't dare be anything else that could be considered mundane. Furries defy any coventional or unifying definition.

That's pretty much how furry was meant, but as a joke.

[Obsidian Thought]

Oh..ok...you never know these days..everything has a double meaning....thanks for the 411.

[Obsidian Thought]

No, I was just being silly ... this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Furry_fandom) is what I meant by "furry." I may have just corrupted you, though, so perhaps it was better when you didn't know what I meant :tongue:

EDIT: Apologies in advance if I offended, it was only meant as a joke.

oh you way too late...been corrupted...that's why I go to church...lol

[CmX]

I thought furries were weirdo geeks that got into cartoon beastiality? I guess I was mistaken.

Anyways let's move on, I don't want this thread derailed for several pages discussing furries.

[Huree]

That X-men Children of the Atom arcade game she was in really got me excited as a kid

[Justin K.]

Yeah, I remember that issue, wasn't it the one were Betsy was sneaking around Gambit's head for information while he was unconsious or something - yet he was able to detect and stop her?!? That's the thing I hate about Gambit as a character; sometimes he seemed to be more mentally powerful than "real" telepaths like Psylocke or even Prof. X! The writers loved making him the most powerful non-telepath in existance.

I assume Sinister has some kind of role in that.

[Seccruz]

Hopefully the previews this week will show Betsy and not damn Pixie!!

I just want to know what body she will stay in so I can move forward with my life!!......yeah I am a geek <shrug> :rolleyes:

Join the club...This is making me sooo edgy!!!

[Twisted Bliss]

Join the club...This is making me sooo edgy!!!

I do hope they don't give her Angels ability to switch forms depending on which power she wants to utilise.

TELEPATH POWER ACTIVATE - Changes in to hot British armoured form.
THONG POWER ACTIVATE - Changes into Asian ass floss cossie

Although given the way the writers made her a woman of easy virtue, perhaps this means she could theortically cheat on someone by being her other self. Hmmmm MAKE MINE MARVEL !

[psycwave]

When it comes to Betsy she owns us. There is no life beyond her. :tongue:

This is soooo true.

[psycwave]

I'd like her to be flirtatious, but more in a mysterious way like how she was with Havok in the last part of the Australia years.
.

I miss the Psylokce/Havoc flirtation.


She should have a full body suit like Revanche's cat suit. I'd change her color scheme to black and purple but it'd differ in design and there'd be a lot less straps. There was a nice example in New Exiles where she had a training uniform like that around issue #11 or #12.

I do like the idea of the catsuit for Betsy. I thought that always would have been something she looked nice in.


Here's some random Psylocke imagery for the day:

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d67/wairata/psylocke-hood.jpg

I loved when she was a creepy telepath; one never wanted to be on her bad side!

ZOMG LOVES!!! <3<3<3<3<3

[lockerogue]

She was the Raven of the X-Men.

[Daniel Mengsk]

When are those damn preview pages coming up, please don't tell me that it will be in the middle of the week, I can't wait anymore!

*sigh*

You guys are right....Betsy owns us...we are her slaves....:frown:

[psycwave]

When are those damn preview pages coming up, please don't tell me that it will be in the middle of the week, I can't wait anymore!

*sigh*

You guys are right....Betsy owns us...we are her slaves....:frown:

As it should be.

[Mr_Hellfire]

I miss the Psylokce/Havoc flirtation.
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/2/29735/686806-psylocke14_super.jpg
Ah yes, the Aussie days. Where Betsy would randomly swim a lot or just be in her bathing suit (like now, it's essentially the same thing) and Havok would be running around in speedos or his underwear (like now) allll the time.

They would've been a wonderfully dysfunctional couple.

[lockerogue]

I have always liked Psylocke's XML costume.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/6754/186294-191392-psylocke_super.jpg

[Drey]

Havok is probably the underdog when it comes to getting the ladies because I've liked the relationship that he had with both Lorna and Maddie--as well as the potential that he and Betsy had! There's just something about him that makes him pretty compatible with quite a few of the X-women.

[Daniel Mengsk]

As it should be.

Eh, well...I...I mean....well of course...High Goddess Elizabeth, I didn't mean to suggest that.... um, what I ment to say was:

Psylocke is Power

Psylocke is Beauty

Psylocke is Strenght

Psylocke IS!

:cool:

[Selene]

Havok is probably the underdog when it comes to getting the ladies because I've liked the relationship that he had with both Lorna and Maddie--as well as the potential that he and Betsy had! There's just something about him that makes him pretty compatible with quite a few of the X-women.
Seriously,I am a fan of Havok,but dating/getting married to a Summers brother must be the worst thing that has happened to Polaris,Madelyne and Jean.Therefore,I have to oppose to a Psylocke/Havok affair.

[psycwave]

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/2/29735/686806-psylocke14_super.jpg
Ah yes, the Aussie days. Where Betsy would randomly swim a lot or just be in her bathing suit (like now, it's essentially the same thing) and Havok would be running around in speedos or his underwear (like now) allll the time.

They would've been a wonderfully dysfunctional couple.

Wouldnt they though. Good times.

Eh, well...I...I mean....well of course...High Goddess Elizabeth, I didn't mean to suggest that.... um, what I ment to say was:

Psylocke is Power

Psylocke is Beauty

Psylocke is Strenght

Psylocke IS!

:cool:

You are on notice Giles.

Seriously,I am a fan of Havok,but dating/getting married to a Summers brother must be the worst thing that has happened to Polaris,Madelyne and Jean.Therefore,I have to oppose to a Psylocke/Havok affair.

Eh ole Alex has his good moments. Like the Aussie days!! Or when he led Muatnt X. I may dislike the Summers but Alex can sooo be full of WIN sometimes! He brings a good quality to the Summers. Plus he doesnt have millions of time displaced children. And he really only sucks when he is woth Polaris. WHich is 95.999 percent of the time but still.