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Ryan W
03-16-2009, 10:31 AM
Can we just pretend that the character in question was Kwannon? :biggrin:

Seriously though, if Betsy ever made it into the films for real I'd say to go with her Brit version for simplicity. She could still be an expert hand-to-hand combatant, be good with firearms, and be great at stealth (she was a freaking spy, after all) and still have the "full totality of her amazing psychic powers!" but to keep her British would jsut be easier for audiences to swallow.

Majinoaw
03-16-2009, 11:19 AM
Heel Persona:
I liked when Psylocke was trying to make time with Cyke. That was Betsy at her best to me. But I do think Psylocke would get lost in the shuffle if she were a regular in Uncanny. maybe she could go to X-Force or Astonishing. But the marks will once again protest this opinion and call me insane.

Tazirai
03-16-2009, 01:36 PM
Could this be Psylocke?
http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=8582955&postcount=685

I love me some asian women but Maggie seriously lacks anything resembling a butt.

Tazirai
03-16-2009, 01:38 PM
Can we just pretend that the character in question was Kwannon? :biggrin:

Seriously though, if Betsy ever made it into the films for real I'd say to go with her Brit version for simplicity. She could still be an expert hand-to-hand combatant, be good with firearms, and be great at stealth (she was a freaking spy, after all) and still have the "full totality of her amazing psychic powers!" but to keep her British would jsut be easier for audiences to swallow.

You all know who I would pick to play a Brit version in the movie.:biggrin:

x_goalkeeper
03-16-2009, 04:44 PM
Can we just pretend that the character in question was Kwannon? :biggrin:

Seriously though, if Betsy ever made it into the films for real I'd say to go with her Brit version for simplicity. She could still be an expert hand-to-hand combatant, be good with firearms, and be great at stealth (she was a freaking spy, after all) and still have the "full totality of her amazing psychic powers!" but to keep her British would jsut be easier for audiences to swallow.

You all know who I would pick to play a Brit version in the movie.:biggrin:

Tazirai, who would it be? I am new and I probably do not know :smile:

lockerogue
03-16-2009, 04:56 PM
Kate Beckinsale as British Psylocke.

http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/famecrawler/2008/06/08-15/kate_beckinsale_gallery_10.jpg

CmX
03-16-2009, 05:45 PM
WTF where are the June solicits? They should've been out by now.

x_goalkeeper
03-16-2009, 08:52 PM
WTF where are the June solicits? They should've been out by now.

hello BFF CmX! :smile:

Is there anything that is special in June, maybe it is Psylocke's appearance in Uncanny?

Tazirai
03-16-2009, 09:36 PM
Kate Beckinsale as British Psylocke.

http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/famecrawler/2008/06/08-15/kate_beckinsale_gallery_10.jpg

you win the Tazirai/Psylocke No-Prize.:biggrin:

CmX
03-16-2009, 10:26 PM
hello BFF CmX! :smile:

Is there anything that is special in June, maybe it is Psylocke's appearance in Uncanny?

lol not sure if anything special is happening in June, just like to see the new solicits! I guess they'll be out tomorrow?

metalgorgomon
03-16-2009, 10:33 PM
lol not sure if anything special is happening in June, just like to see the new solicits! I guess they'll be out tomorrow?

I've been waiting for the new solicits too.
Maybe the Advance X-Men solicit will be available in the next 30 minutes??

x_goalkeeper
03-16-2009, 10:44 PM
lol not sure if anything special is happening in June, just like to see the new solicits! I guess they'll be out tomorrow?

Well OK that is good too! :biggrin:

Which issue of Uncanny is Psylocke supposed to return?

I've been waiting for the new solicits too.
Maybe the Advance X-Men solicit will be available in the next 30 minutes??

30 minutes? Do they have exact schedules? :eek:

metalgorgomon
03-16-2009, 10:58 PM
Well OK that is good too! :biggrin:

Which issue of Uncanny is Psylocke supposed to return?



30 minutes? Do they have exact schedules? :eek:

I think they do.. :biggrin:

TBH, not too sure bout it, But I remember reading solicits/advance solicits at 12.01 AM or 12.01 PM (my time)..
Could be this afternoon or later.. right after midnight.

And Marvel Previews mentioned that Psylocke is returning in Uncanny #510.
(I think we're going to see a bit of her in #509 as well.. but I'm just speculating here :smile: )

x_goalkeeper
03-16-2009, 11:01 PM
I think they do.. :biggrin:

TBH, not too sure bout it, But I remember reading solicits/advance solicits at 12.01 AM or 12.01 PM (my time)..
Could be this afternoon or later.. right after midnight.

And Marvel Previews mentioned that Psylocke is returning in Uncanny #510.
(I think we're going to see a bit of her in #509 as well.. but I'm just speculating here :smile: )

so it could be any moment now, or much later? :eek:

I will try to remember about Uncanny 509 or 510.. my memory is funny somtimes :redface:

.LuckyStar.
03-17-2009, 06:58 AM
Solicits are always up on the second to last Monday of the month. That would be the 23th, I guess. I can't freaking wait too!
Oh, we'll finally see Sword of Braddocks preview art this Friday too! yay!

CmX
03-17-2009, 09:42 AM
Well the solicits vary, they're always set for that second to the last Monday, but a lot of times they'll do advance early solicits of the X-Books or Dark Reign books, Avengers books etc., usually on the weekend or a day before and this month we didn't get that I guess? Also DC Solcits weren't released and they're always out the day before Marvels.

rifleman101
03-17-2009, 10:29 AM
All right, this thread needs more actual Psylocke than tv stars.

http://fc52.deviantart.com/fs7/i/2005/250/3/3/Sexy_Psylocke_by_Crimsonsea.jpg

http://crimsonsea.deviantart.com/art/Sexy-Psylocke-22670869

Cuz you know she is.

I think that should be her new uniform.

darknessatnoon
03-17-2009, 01:06 PM
I liked Psylocke when she had no eyeballs.

jester1436
03-17-2009, 01:08 PM
Is that Psylocke trying out for Rock Of Love Bus in the above fanart?

Majinoaw
03-17-2009, 01:25 PM
I liked Psylocke when she had no eyeballs.

Face Persona:
I like Psylocke when she Lady Mandarin.

Tazirai
03-17-2009, 09:17 PM
I liked Psylocke when she had no eyeballs.

Me also. She had more personality and characterization then. But we know this already la.


I think someday this week I'm gonna compile a few Alternate universe Psylockes. To test my "She's Asian everywhere" Theory.. even though I know it's know true.. It is prevalent.

Justin K.
03-18-2009, 03:20 AM
I love me some asian women but Maggie seriously lacks anything resembling a butt.

http://www.invademybrain.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/4chan20070131004012.gif

CmX
03-18-2009, 03:23 AM
http://www.invademybrain.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/4chan20070131004012.gif

!! Have you posted these in the cast me thread? I'm sure you'll get Psylocke!

x_goalkeeper
03-18-2009, 03:33 AM
!! Have you posted these in the cast me thread? I'm sure you'll get Psylocke!

very funny BFF! :biggrin:

rifleman101
03-19-2009, 02:46 PM
Okay, needs more Psylocke goodness.

http://fc49.deviantart.com/fs41/f/2009/014/e/a/Psylocke_vs_ninjas_by_amilcar_pinna.jpg

http://amilcar-pinna.deviantart.com/art/Psylocke-vs-ninjas-109493706

And one that i really like:

http://fc19.deviantart.com/fs11/i/2006/240/1/0/Psylocke_v_Wolverine_Prelim_by_Mat_Major.jpg

http://mat-major.deviantart.com/art/Psylocke-v-Wolverine-Prelim-38865476

:biggrin:

CmX
03-19-2009, 03:05 PM
Oh shit! Those are so good!

x_goalkeeper
03-19-2009, 03:54 PM
rifleman101, those are very beautiful drawings! :cool:

psycwave
03-19-2009, 06:09 PM
Both those beautiful works totally need to be covers if Psylocke gets her own HAND Asian ninja mini.

psycwave
03-19-2009, 10:57 PM
Here is a fan video of Psylocke....

http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3 Dw5DtFM7S9Yc&h=a77c91e3226bec902c1b20ead2bab04a

.LuckyStar.
03-20-2009, 11:59 AM
http://www.marvel.com/news/comicstories.7291

!!!

jarrod
03-20-2009, 12:02 PM
OMG! Betsy looks HOTTT!!!!!!!1!!

psycwave
03-20-2009, 12:18 PM
http://www.marvel.com/news/comicstories.7291

!!!

Oh me oh my! That is freakin great!! I cannot wait till March 25th!!!!!

CmX
03-20-2009, 02:53 PM
Ugh, let's just get this over with already!

cgar
03-20-2009, 04:34 PM
omg she looks fucken gorgeous. i cant wait till this comes out. i mean even though its CC's blahness

metalgorgomon
03-20-2009, 05:28 PM
Okay, needs more Psylocke goodness.

http://amilcar-pinna.deviantart.com/art/Psylocke-vs-ninjas-109493706

And one that i really like:

http://mat-major.deviantart.com/art/Psylocke-v-Wolverine-Prelim-38865476

:biggrin:

Those are really good art.
Thanks for sharing, riffleman101

http://www.marvel.com/news/comicstories.7291

!!!

I've been waiting the preview for a whole day. Somehow, CBR and Comicscontinuum don't have it.
Thanks! LuckyStar. Betsy looks super hott. I really like the coloring of the costume.
Please let her keeps it..
(I don't mind the super mini bustier :D)

x_goalkeeper
03-20-2009, 05:46 PM
http://www.marvel.com/news/comicstories.7291

!!!

thank you so much for sharing, at my current status I would see this in 6 months :smile:

IseeFrost
03-21-2009, 02:44 PM
Ugh, let's just get this over with already!

Seriously! She's been at the mercy of that butcher for far too long. She's been the same "lost" very confusing character since Xtreme Xmen while EVERYONE else has grown/changed and been written by different writers since then it doesn't make any sense. I'll be glad when she's finally in Uncanny again.

omg she looks fucken gorgeous. i cant wait till this comes out. i mean even though its CC's blahness

The art is wonderful, but it's so digitized it doesn't really fit/feel like a comic.

shadowki
03-21-2009, 04:39 PM
The art is wonderful, but it's so digitized it doesn't really fit/feel like a comic.

what I think exactly!!
except for the wonderful part cuz IT SUCKS!!!!!!!
Why of course, YAY Psylocke etc.

Slung
03-21-2009, 04:42 PM
Am I the only one who prays that she loses the TK and regains her TP. I HATE Betsy with TK, it just doesn't fit her character. Bring Back the BUTTERFLY!

psycwave
03-21-2009, 04:59 PM
Am I the only one who prays that she loses the TK and regains her TP. I HATE Betsy with TK, it just doesn't fit her character. Bring Back the BUTTERFLY!

By this time I just want Betsy back period. While i don't necessarily agree that she shoulda been given the TK it could serve its purpose. Though I dont think she should use it in the normal sense as others. I think its all in the way she uses it. If she used it to more effectively compliment her ninja skills(strength, speed, jumping, etc.) I would approve more. Even the turning invisible thing is kinda cool i just wish we could have seen her practicing instead of it just coming out of nowhere. I want the TK sword to affect physical instead of mental and i wouldn't mind seeing some TK butterfly shaped shurikens.

All in all while I would lurve if she got her TP back if she is destined to keep the TK I want her as an effective TK user.

IseeFrost
03-21-2009, 05:31 PM
She should go back to being just a telepath and bring back the Psychic knife & the butterfly.

The TK is a stupid left over from the "6 month gap" that was never EVER explained with anything that ever made any sense.

CmX
03-21-2009, 06:33 PM
Am I the only one who prays that she loses the TK and regains her TP. I HATE Betsy with TK, it just doesn't fit her character. Bring Back the BUTTERFLY!

You are not alone a lot of the Psylocke fans (If not all of them) prefer telepathic Psylocke way over telekinetic Psylocke. I really miss her butterfly signature the most.

Tazirai
03-21-2009, 06:47 PM
Here is a fan video of Psylocke....

http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3 Dw5DtFM7S9Yc&h=a77c91e3226bec902c1b20ead2bab04a

Great Video.. Psylocke doesnt even remotely look Asian in that front page pic.
This makes me happy.

Tazirai
03-21-2009, 06:56 PM
I just read the preview.. and have come to the conclusion that She WILL die at the end of this... The pic of that "British" Psylocke dying and Slaymaster getting stronger makes sense now.

I think she WILL get her TP back, it's been hinted at and pointed out many times. Shown up even more. But I understand why Slay master wants her to die now, even though it never made sense before. Especially how Captain Britain kept "getting away".

She'll die along with Slay Master . Then she'll return to the 616.

She's got Marvel Girl beat in one way though. She dies and comes back more hehe.

cgar
03-21-2009, 08:22 PM
so if slaymaster is getting stronger why isnt Psylocke getting any stonger..

id would like for her to have both tp/tk. i dont think it her turn deux

KrullWall
03-21-2009, 08:31 PM
What do we think Psylocke will be doing once she returns to the Xmen?

Maybe some woman power time with storm?

IseeFrost
03-21-2009, 09:12 PM
so if slaymaster is getting stronger why isnt Psylocke getting any stonger..

id would like for her to have both tp/tk. i dont think it her turn deux

He keeps killing other versions of her and it's having a physical affect on her, but I wouldn't be surprised if CC has all of the others join with Psylocke to make some sort of Super Psylocke at the end.

Ryan W
03-21-2009, 09:47 PM
Yeah, the whole "collecting the different parts of yourself because without all of your different sides you're not a whole person" theme is one that CC's done before. I can see him pulling that with Betsy.

Tazirai
03-21-2009, 11:38 PM
He keeps killing other versions of her and it's having a physical affect on her, but I wouldn't be surprised if CC has all of the others join with Psylocke to make some sort of Super Psylocke at the end.


Yeah, the whole "collecting the different parts of yourself because without all of your different sides you're not a whole person" theme is one that CC's done before. I can see him pulling that with Betsy.

I like what You both have written. but Im gonna go with...

CC was sipping a
http://www.oddee.com/_media/imgs/articles/a73_latte5.jpg

while Watching
http://estrip.org/elmwood/users/theecarey/images/1206/jet_li_15156.jpg

A sudden Rush of Sugar said
" The Above + http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/thumb/d/d3/Psylocke_(Early_Costume)_003.jpg/180px-Psylocke_(Early_Costume)_003.jpg

= http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/5923/xmenbraddockscovcf8.jpg

Tazirai
03-21-2009, 11:45 PM
...and who said the British Body wasnt hot....:confused:
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/a/af/Psylocke_uncanny239.jpg

CmX
03-22-2009, 12:53 AM
People just think British Betsy was frumpy and unattractive because it was during the 80s. Women in comics weren't as sexualized as they became during the early 90s. But latley when we've seen British Betsy drawn by modern artists she's looked hot! Look at Land's cover, or Salva's impression of British Betsy during Xtreme.

CmX
03-22-2009, 12:54 AM
He keeps killing other versions of her and it's having a physical affect on her, but I wouldn't be surprised if CC has all of the others join with Psylocke to make some sort of Super Psylocke at the end.

I hate how in the preview on the recap page it asks if Psylocke can defeat Slaymaster. She already did in New Exiles #17. We know she can do it. wtf. And also after alt. Psylocke reads Slaymasters mind and she tells her love why he's there, he goes, 'I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU'RE HERE BUT IT ENDS NOW!" wtf Claremont. Ugh he's so tired and I'm glad this is over. Good fucking riddance.

x_goalkeeper
03-22-2009, 12:54 AM
People just think British Betsy was frumpy and unattractive because it was during the 80s. Women in comics weren't as sexualized as they became during the early 90s. But latley when we've seen British Betsy drawn by modern artists she's looked hot! Look at Land's cover, or Salva's impression of British Betsy during Xtreme.

hello BFF! :smile:

do you have any example of British Betsy drawn recently?

IseeFrost
03-22-2009, 11:10 AM
I think CMX means

http://i42.tinypic.com/2sagxeu.png

Selene
03-22-2009, 12:07 PM
I think CMX means

http://i42.tinypic.com/2sagxeu.png

And I think x_goalkeeper meant "drawn" not "traced"...

Ryan W
03-22-2009, 01:59 PM
Technically that flashback where Betsy as an agent of STRIKE tries to infiltrate the Inner Circle of the Hellfire Club was a British Betsy . . . But Salvador Larocca kinda drew her the same as Japanese Betsy. :frown:

x_goalkeeper
03-22-2009, 03:35 PM
I think CMX means

http://i42.tinypic.com/2sagxeu.png

I did not know it was British Betsy? :confused:

And I think x_goalkeeper meant "drawn" not "traced"...

funny Selene! :biggrin:

IseeFrost
03-22-2009, 04:58 PM
And I think x_goalkeeper meant "drawn" not "traced"...

You'd think wrong. Goalkeeper was refering to CMX's post. I'd be careful who you get smart with Black Queen :evilsmile:

MartinRedmond
03-22-2009, 05:01 PM
I think CMX means

http://i42.tinypic.com/2sagxeu.png

The left face is clearly Japanese. The nose bridge, the eyes, totally.

IseeFrost
03-22-2009, 05:03 PM
It's a brilliant piece of artwork.

Tazirai
03-22-2009, 07:16 PM
This should seriously be considered for her new Uniform.
From the Sword of the Braddocks one shot.

I love it. Reminds me of Sages Uniform with the hoodie.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/tazirai/PsylockealternateUniverse.jpg

Damn she looks good here. No "frumpy "British woman here. (Dunno where they got this from anyway.)
Thi sis her Modernized and definitely British.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/tazirai/SexyBritish.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/tazirai/Unifromequalwin.jpg

metalgorgomon
03-22-2009, 07:43 PM
I agree Tazirai..

That uniform looked really good. I like the design, especially the details in the uniform.

The thing is.. I really like the art (pencil and coloring) from the SOB creative team. The Grummet's design even looked way better than the original IMO.

I'm not sure other creative teams would draw that uniform as good as this one.
But yes.. it should be taken into consideration..

CmX
03-22-2009, 09:29 PM
That's a cool uniform but she looks far too similar to Cyblade from Top Cow comics. =/ And as it is they are way too similar as it is.

x_goalkeeper
03-23-2009, 01:56 AM
That's a cool uniform but she looks far too similar to Cyblade from Top Cow comics. =/ And as it is they are way too similar as it is.

I agree with you sort of, it makes her look like X-Force!

Kas
03-23-2009, 02:01 AM
Who is psylockes brother? He is some weird skinny dude with strings and can do funny things with time or something?

The Sword Is Drawn
03-23-2009, 03:12 AM
The left face is clearly Japanese. The nose bridge, the eyes, totally.

I don't see that. Could easily be a British model. Which after all, Betsy was for a while.

Who is psylockes brother? He is some weird skinny dude with strings and can do funny things with time or something?

You're thinking of older brother Jamie. And yes he is fairly skinny. That's what happens when you're kept alive only to be tortured with hallucinogens for a few years, by an African Warlord... :rolleyes: Jamie has reality warping powers, which are shown to him as strings he can tug upon.

But Psylocke's better know brother, and her twin, is Captain Britain. Not that you'd know it to look at her in her current body.

Aelle3
03-23-2009, 03:38 AM
arrg why the hell is Slaymaster being reused?? Does anyone know how he survived brian smashing his head in with a gaint rock? There is just no need for him, i think Claremonts gone loopy.
psylocke come home soon

Kas
03-23-2009, 03:43 AM
Aye, jamie is his name.
Also i was reading astonishing x men series 2 and couldnt understand the danger room coming alive and all that. Was well weird

Selene
03-23-2009, 06:32 AM
I did not know it was British Betsy? :confused:


Not to worry.Land "drew" it,remember?Confusion is natural.

You'd think wrong. Goalkeeper was refering to CMX's post. I'd be careful who you get smart with Black Queen :evilsmile:

And CmX's post was refering to Land's want-to-be-Psylocke drawing(and of course to Larroca's Psylocke drawing,as well),White Queen.:biggrin:

Besides my post was intended as yet another Internet slam to Land's artwork,darling.:smile:

I like Psylocke's N.Exiles outfit,but I really have to say that I'm a bit fed up with seeing that much nudity in *every* X-title these days.The girl should wear something more appropriate,in my opinion.Not too revelatory,but not too "restrained",either.

IseeFrost
03-23-2009, 06:49 AM
Not to worry.Land "drew" it,remember?Confusion is natural.



And CmX's post was refering to Land's want-to-be-Psylocke drawing(and of course to Larroca's Psylocke drawing,as well),White Queen.:biggrin:

Besides my post was intended as yet another Internet slam to Land's artwork,darling.:smile:

I like Psylocke's N.Exiles outfit,but I really have to say that I'm a bit fed up with seeing that much nudity in *every* X-title these days.The girl should wear something more appropriate,in my opinion.Not too revelatory,but not too "restrained",either.

:biggrin: I agree. There should at least be a balance between male/female nudity. The boys used to get their shirts off with regularity and show off their hot abs, but even a tracer...i mean artist like Land would have trouble doing that today all they know are T&A it's sad :rolleyes:

Selene
03-23-2009, 07:06 AM
Oh,please.With members like Emma Frost or Mystique joining the X-Men,I figure the X-Men should be renamed to X-X-X-Men.At least,Betsy had a certain style with her ninja/swimsuit uniform and she didn't stroll about acting like a hussy-if you exclude the time she was trying to seduce Cyclops-.

But as you very well pointed out,you can expect nudity in comics drawn by Greg Land...:rolleyes:

IseeFrost
03-23-2009, 07:08 AM
Psylocke could seduce Cyclops while wrapped in a towel withOUT showing her curves.

Today it's more like the artists are trying to seduce the reader in some sort of Pseudo-homosexual act (male artists drawing women to seduce a male audience).

Selene
03-23-2009, 07:21 AM
I am okay with the fact that most artists's policy is to attract as much comic-book reading audience by showing "dirty scenes",but it gets preety annoying if the whole point of a comic-book issue is to show as much nudity as possible.

The best and most recent example would be Uncanny X-Men,ish. #501 featuring Scott's and Emma's personal moments.

I never thought that they made Psylocke wear the swimsuit/ninja outfit *just* to attract male comic-book readers to her.I liked the whole idea with Betsy wanting to have both the skills and the resemblance of a warrior and,in my opinion,that's the reason the writers/artists wanted to have Betsy show as much skin as possible.

IseeFrost
03-23-2009, 07:29 AM
It worked with betsy because she had been locked up in a full body armor suit with terrycloth towel-cape in the fricking Australian desert...the goal of Kwannon was to be completely different from Psylocke's pervious incarnation and that meant showing a bit of skin, but even then it wasn't much just her upper thighs and a bit of bum it wasn't full tit & minge like today where Pixie goes from New mutant to StacyX

Selene
03-23-2009, 07:40 AM
Despite that,Betsy had claimed that it was her dream to be a warrior and my guess is that Claremont had already planned the body swap with Kwannon long before the Australian Outback days.Remember that in Uncanny X-Men:Annual #11 the magical citadel had granted Psylocke's wish about becoming a warrior.

jarrod
03-23-2009, 08:31 AM
arrg why the hell is Slaymaster being reused?? Does anyone know how he survived brian smashing his head in with a gaint rock? There is just no need for him, i think Claremonts gone loopy.
psylocke come home soon
It's an alternate Slaymaster.

The Sword Is Drawn
03-23-2009, 09:00 AM
arrg why the hell is Slaymaster being reused?? Does anyone know how he survived brian smashing his head in with a gaint rock? There is just no need for him, i think Claremonts gone loopy.
psylocke come home soon

Sadly, I don't see Marvel letting her go home any time soon. She'll probably get a guest appearance at some point, but I think it's safe to assume that they'll be keeping her in the background of the X-Men, doing nothing, instead.

But the Slaymaster here is an alternate Slaymaster, who was allied with his dimension's HYDRA. Unless we get some big continuity resetting event in the future the original, in all his stereotypical Arab glory, remains very dead. Death-by-big-effing-rock-to-the-head is not an easy thing to get better from. When it actually doesn't leave you with much of a head left afterwards, anyway.

No less than he deserved. He did blind Betsy.

Aye, jamie is his name.
Also i was reading astonishing x men series 2 and couldnt understand the danger room coming alive and all that. Was well weird

Don't worry, you're not the only one to feel that way. :biggrin:

Psylocke could seduce Cyclops while wrapped in a towel withOUT showing her curves.

Indeed. Good times.

Today it's more like the artists are trying to seduce the reader in some sort of Pseudo-homosexual act (male artists drawing women to seduce a male audience).

When you phrase it that way, it does sound a little bit weird.... :biggrin:

I am okay with the fact that most artists's policy is to attract as much comic-book reading audience by showing "dirty scenes",but it gets preety annoying if the whole point of a comic-book issue is to show as much nudity as possible.

Totally. I mean to use that previous scene mentioned as an example, sure Scott walked in on Betsy getting out of the shower. But she was mostly wrapped up in the towel. It wasn't sleazy. It didn't come across as too contrived, either. He stepped out to wash his face after having another waking nightmare having discovered that Cable was his son, semi dazed, and the OOPS! There's Psylocke in there. A silly situation which I'm sure we've all encountered at some point, when living with a group of people. It wasn't gratuitous.

Now, though? Most of what's turning up in Uncanny does seem to be done for some daft sense of sensationalism. There's no need for it, and it isn't even written well enough to be in anyway sexy. It's just cheap fan service.

I never thought that they made Psylocke wear the swimsuit/ninja outfit *just* to attract male comic-book readers to her.I liked the whole idea with Betsy wanting to have both the skills and the resemblance of a warrior and,in my opinion,that's the reason the writers/artists wanted to have Betsy show as much skin as possible.

And the sexy female ninja look just happened to be IN at the time. Sadly, it's a total cliche now, but Marvel just don't seem to want to move on.

CmX
03-23-2009, 10:26 AM
It looks like from the cover of Uncanny XMen #512 that Psylocke is joining the X-Club! This could be good seeing as Emma isn't involved with that subplot and perhaps the X-Club needs their own telepath, hence Betsy? I'm hoping!

psycwave
03-23-2009, 10:30 AM
It looks like from the cover of Uncanny XMen #512 that Psylocke is joining the X-Club! This could be good seeing as Emma isn't involved with that subplot and perhaps the X-Club needs their own telepath, hence Betsy? I'm hoping!

Yes I just saw the cover as well. Betsy back on X-men covers(new avatar, i think so)!!!! But the X-club...UGH. Im not really feeling the X-club hopefully Betsy brings some life to that troupe!! And to see her interact with Warren again will be cool.

CmX, if the telepath thing is right i will die a happy man.

.LuckyStar.
03-23-2009, 10:33 AM
Looks like she's still in her Asian body!

Warren and Betsy together again <3 <3 <3

CmX
03-23-2009, 10:34 AM
Yes I just saw the cover as well. Betsy back on X-men covers(new avatar, i think so)!!!! But the X-club...UGH. Im not really feeling the X-club hopefully Betsy brings some life to that troupe!! And to see her interact with Warren again will be cool.

CmX, if the telepath thing is right i will die a happy man.

Well think of it this way. The X-club has been getting a lot of page time they're even getting a whole double sized issue to themselves coming up and Betsy is going to be apart of it apparently. And this is immediately after she's rejoined. Look at Dazzler and Karma when they initially rejoined the teams, they haven't been used at all unfortunately. So we should just be happy that Betsy is going to have involvement with the team and she won't be just background filler for Emma and Cyclops.

metalgorgomon
03-23-2009, 10:36 AM
OMG.. Betsy and Warren in UXM #512 cover <3 <3 <3

Hmm.. wonder whether she's going to get back her telepathy..
I'm soooo excited!!!

CmX
03-23-2009, 10:37 AM
Looks like she's still in her Asian body!

Warren and Betsy together again <3 <3 <3

Aw I love you bff! Let's update ze blog! ;)

psycwave
03-23-2009, 10:40 AM
Looks like she's still in her Asian body!


Is she? I couldn't tell. I was too blinded by all the marvelous purple on the cover!!!

Well think of it this way. The X-club has been getting a lot of page time they're even getting a whole double sized issue to themselves coming up and Betsy is going to be apart of it apparently. And this is immediately after she's rejoined. Look at Dazzler and Karma when they initially rejoined the teams, they haven't been used at all unfortunately. So we should just be happy that Betsy is going to have involvement with the team and she won't be just background filler for Emma and Cyclops.

Hmmm I guess thats true.

OMG.. Betsy and Warren in UXM #512 cover <3 <3 <3

Hmm.. wonder whether she's going to get back her telepathy..
I'm soooo excited!!!

I KNOW! PSYLOCKE IS BACK! PSYLOCKE IS BAAAAAAAAACCCKKK!!!!!

metalgorgomon
03-23-2009, 10:48 AM
Well think of it this way. The X-club has been getting a lot of page time they're even getting a whole double sized issue to themselves coming up and Betsy is going to be apart of it apparently. And this is immediately after she's rejoined. Look at Dazzler and Karma when they initially rejoined the teams, they haven't been used at all unfortunately. So we should just be happy that Betsy is going to have involvement with the team and she won't be just background filler for Emma and Cyclops.

Agreed.

It's nice to see Psylocke in a story outside of Scott & Emma's.
And.. she's going to be with her (former) lover and best friend (Beast)..
Better yet.. Land's not the artist.

The X-Club has been boring .. but if a female member (Psylocke) is joining the team.. it'll make the team much more interesting IMO.

.LuckyStar.
03-23-2009, 10:57 AM
Aw I love you bff! Let's update ze blog! ;)
Done! <3 And people didn't believe it when you told us about Betts in UXM. It's here! <3

OMG.. Betsy and Warren in UXM #512 cover <3 <3 <3

Hmm.. wonder whether she's going to get back her telepathy..
I'm soooo excited!!!
I know! Me too. Betsy/Warren interaction!

Is she? I couldn't tell. I was too blinded by all the marvelous purple on the cover!!!
LOL I thought she looked Asian, but then again Larroca's British Betsy looked almost exactly like the Asian one. Lol

And I love that they call her one of the greatest X-Ladies! I remember they saying Dr. Rao was gonna be the last member of the X-Club. Maybe this issue is set in the past with the X-Club and in the present with the X-Men dealing with Betsy's return as the solicit say. Oh, and there's the Dark Avengers crossover. 3 issue with Betsy in one month? Wow!

psycwave
03-23-2009, 10:59 AM
I just realized in the solit they say they are "reeling" from her return. I wonder if they are reeling in a good way or a bad way. Time will only tell. First it was April...NOW I CANT WAIT TILL JUNE!!!

CmX
03-23-2009, 11:01 AM
And I love that they call her one of the greatest X-Ladies! I remember they saying Dr. Rao was gonna be the last member of the X-Club. Maybe this issue is set in the past with the X-Club and in the present with the X-Men dealing with Betsy's return as the solicit say. Oh, and there's the Dark Avengers crossover. 3 issue with Betsy in one month? Wow!

I'm guess she joins the X-Club as to not sit in Emma's shadow and to also add a female to their ranks since they're all men. I'm really curious to see how the interactions with Warren goes! Especially to find out he's Arcangel once more.

And Yanick's depiction of Betsy on that cover looks a lot like his Ultimate Psylocke which was Asian. So I'm guessing she stays Asian, just hope she's a telepath by the time that rolls around.

Hi-Fi
03-23-2009, 11:04 AM
She's definitely in her asian body. Anyway, I'm excited to have her back! You think they're hooking her up with Angel again?

metalgorgomon
03-23-2009, 11:08 AM
She's definitely in her asian body. Anyway, I'm excited to have her back! You think they're hooking her up with Angel again?

Hi Fi's here!!! :biggrin:

Yes.. I think she's asian in that cover.
The Dual Betsy art suggests that she might be getting the tp though..

I'm not sure whether they're gonna hook her up with Angel that soon. Probably just having some interaction with him. Just like Cmx said, probably dealing with Angel/Archangel stuff..

psycwave
03-23-2009, 11:10 AM
Wait! I Wonder What Her Costume Will Look Like!?!?!?!

I hope she doesn't go back to buttfloss.

CmX
03-23-2009, 11:12 AM
Wait! I Wonder What Her Costume Will Look Like!?!?!?!

I hope she doesn't go back to buttfloss.

Some retard fan asked Fraction to bring back her ninja outfit at the last convention they had.

Alex A Sanchez
03-23-2009, 11:20 AM
Random post here. I'm not much of a Psylocke fan, but I just re-watched X-Men: Last Stand and I have to express my sympathy for you all.

They just destroyed that character. Poor Betsy! I'm sure she still lies awake crying some nights. I would. :frown:

psycwave
03-23-2009, 11:25 AM
Some retard fan asked Fraction to bring back her ninja outfit at the last convention they had.

Ugh please god no. I hope they give her something totally new but similar. Something sexy yet classy. A bianchi redesign but only good! lol

I think im asking for a lot here but I dont care. My girl Betsy has earned it! She has been through so much crap it only makes sense to lavish her with wonders.

Hi-Fi
03-23-2009, 11:34 AM
Hi Fi's here!!! :biggrin:

Hey, buddy!

Some retard fan asked Fraction to bring back her ninja outfit at the last convention they had.
Gosh, Randy. I thought you guys loved that costume. I'm sorry, I was nervous. It was my first convention. :frown:

metalgorgomon
03-23-2009, 11:44 AM
Hey, buddy!


Hi, Hi-Fi!
I assumed you have first knowledge about Legacy.
Shouldn't there's a solicit for the book?

Gosh, Randy. I thought you guys loved that costume. I'm sorry, I was nervous. It was my first convention. :frown:

You... ...DID......NOT!!!! :biggrin:

LOL... I remember reading that one of the fan asked that question to Fraction about her Ninja outfit.
I'd love Betsy to have a new costume. But.. my money's still on the Ninja costume though..
If.. she joins the X-Force, there's a high possibility she might get a new one IMO.

CmX
03-23-2009, 01:00 PM
Gosh, Randy. I thought you guys loved that costume. I'm sorry, I was nervous. It was my first convention. :frown:

Uh no we don't Victor. And we're broken up.

CmX
03-23-2009, 01:01 PM
Ugh please god no. I hope they give her something totally new but similar. Something sexy yet classy. A bianchi redesign but only good! lol


If you want a new design that's good and by Bianchi then chances are you won't want it by him.

CmX
03-23-2009, 01:02 PM
Random post here. I'm not much of a Psylocke fan, but I just re-watched X-Men: Last Stand and I have to express my sympathy for you all.

They just destroyed that character. Poor Betsy! I'm sure she still lies awake crying some nights. I would. :frown:

I fuckin love you.

Hi-Fi
03-23-2009, 01:04 PM
Hi, Hi-Fi!
I assumed you have first knowledge about Legacy.
Shouldn't there's a solicit for the book?



You... ...DID......NOT!!!! :biggrin:

LOL... I remember reading that one of the fan asked that question to Fraction about her Ninja outfit.
I'd love Betsy to have a new costume. But.. my money's still on the Ninja costume though..
If.. she joins the X-Force, there's a high possibility she might get a new one IMO.

Uh no we don't Victor. And we're broken up.
LOL. It wasn't really me. Like if I went to a convention I'd open my mouth to talk about anything but Roguey. I'm so dependant of her!

psycwave
03-23-2009, 01:10 PM
Just cause Im excited. Two good Asian Betsy moments. Ill do more later.

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/psylocke%20only/033.jpg

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/psylocke%20only/062.jpg
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/psylocke%20only/063.jpg

darknessatnoon
03-23-2009, 01:13 PM
Does anyone have scans of Betsy talking shit about the White Hot Room?

.LuckyStar.
03-23-2009, 01:16 PM
Does anyone have scans of Betsy talking shit about the White Hot Room?

Is it disrespectful?
http://psylocke2.club.fr/gallerie/2005/172.jpg

darknessatnoon
03-23-2009, 01:18 PM
Is it disrespectful?
http://psylocke2.club.fr/gallerie/2005/172.jpg

LOL, thank you. I can almost forgive her inherent racism there.

psycwave
03-23-2009, 01:21 PM
EDIT: Nevermind. Lucky beat me to it.

Selene
03-23-2009, 01:35 PM
Totally. I mean to use that previous scene mentioned as an example, sure Scott walked in on Betsy getting out of the shower. But she was mostly wrapped up in the towel. It wasn't sleazy. It didn't come across as too contrived, either. He stepped out to wash his face after having another waking nightmare having discovered that Cable was his son, semi dazed, and the OOPS! There's Psylocke in there. A silly situation which I'm sure we've all encountered at some point, when living with a group of people. It wasn't gratuitous.

Now, though? Most of what's turning up in Uncanny does seem to be done for some daft sense of sensationalism. There's no need for it, and it isn't even written well enough to be in anyway sexy. It's just cheap fan service.
My thoughts,precisely,remember that in contrast to the current direction of Uncanny X-Men the writers back during the nineties were merely trying to narrate another typical love triangle brewing between Jean,Scott and Betsy,but in a "kinkier" sort of way this time,yet the writer's sole intention was to describe the repercussions of the body swap with Kwannon,how much it had affected Psylocke's personality.And after that,it was the Rogue/Gambit/Iceman triangle,then Rogue/Gambit/Joseph,succeeded by Shadowcat/Wisdom/Collosus and probably even more.Ever since Grant Morrison came and ruined the X-Men,all I saw was a love triangle between Scott,Emma and Jean starting out as a brainwashing and leading to Jean "giving her bless" to both Scott and Emma eventually,a relationship which has to be one of the creepiest relationships I've ever read in a comic-book.Not to mention Husk and Warren and Mystique and Bobby(no offense,Mr.Carey,I love your work,but what you did to Iceman was humiliating)!

And the sexy female ninja look just happened to be IN at the time. Sadly, it's a total cliche now, but Marvel just don't seem to want to move on.
Very true and it should be noted that during the Jim Lee/Andy Kubert era Psylocke and Rogue were at their sexiest years,but Marvel editors weren't aiming at turning the X-Men into X-X-X-Men.

http://i466.photobucket.com/albums/rr21/Roguish-eyed/X-MEN269_09b.jpg

http://i466.photobucket.com/albums/rr21/Roguish-eyed/X-Men001-Rubicon-00-FC-Wraparound.jpg

Well,at long last,the solicits are announced!Betsy's back in Uncanny X-Men-finally some more women made into the poor title.I'm glad that she will be keeping her Asian body because this is the body she prefers.Now I'm hoping she'll finally get her telepathy back and give away that stupid telekinesis.And,oh my God,does her standing next to Warren imply anything deeper?!:eek:

For my sake,I hope it does!:biggrin:

KMar
03-23-2009, 04:17 PM
Um, not to sound rude or anything, but am I the only one wondering why Betsy is with the X-club? I love her, but she's not really a brilliant scientific mind. And about everyone thinking she's in her asian body, I really think that they will literally have to say in the story what body she has. That cover really doesn't say much, I think that that artist draws everyone kind of asian looking.... But ending on a brighter note, BETSY IS BACK AND WILL ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING!!!!!

cgar
03-23-2009, 07:13 PM
So like othes have said itll be good to have Psylocke in the X-Club. Now hold on let me explain. I find the X-Club boring but with Psylocke maybe it will change the interactions. Uncanny is suppose to be revolving but its nothing but the Emma, Beast, and Cyclops with cameos by others. the X-Clubs is kind of a side line story that Emma and Cyclops are not in. So I think Psylocke we'll get more time. And I would like to see some interaction between Betsy and Warren. And of course Beast. And i would like her to have both tk and tp but we'll see what happens. And another thing. Meggan is going to be back I would love for Betsy to reunite with Brian and Meggan for at least an issue. Other characters do it all the time I dont see why Betsy cant. That is all

Tazirai
03-23-2009, 09:18 PM
Wait! I Wonder What Her Costume Will Look Like!?!?!?!

I hope she doesn't go back to buttfloss.

I dont mind her being asian or British.. I just hate that she becane a piece of tail, rather than a character.

She does look asian there, but as has been said Larocca does Eurasian well.

x_goalkeeper
03-24-2009, 02:17 AM
Um, not to sound rude or anything, but am I the only one wondering why Betsy is with the X-club? I

Maybe she is japanese and they would need a guide :smile:

psycwave
03-24-2009, 09:10 AM
Betsy is returning that is a given, but what type of role do you think she will portray. Its a possibility that she will be in the X-Club*shudders* but in what type of faction. Will she return the ready fighter adhering to the new status quo? A reluctant warrior trying to understand how things became the way they are? What motivation do you thik/hope Fraction will give her in her glorious return?


And you know how so many X-men have friendships outside of the X-universe, Jean-Misty Knight, Wolvie and millions of others, Beast and the Avengers/ Who would you like to see Psylocke buddy up with? My number one candidate is Colleen Wing. I love her and would love to see her and Betsy swordfight against each other.

IseeFrost
03-24-2009, 11:56 AM
Elektra.

I know it seems cliche, but they've both been through similar circumstances.

-Body modifications, mind wipes, Elektra was abducted by Aliens, Psylocke was abducted by Claremont...I mean eXiles.

Think of the team up books! It'd be like marvel's version of Lara Croft & Sara Pezzini

psycwave
03-24-2009, 12:54 PM
Elektra.

I know it seems cliche, but they've both been through similar circumstances.

-Body modifications, mind wipes, Elektra was abducted by Aliens, Psylocke was abducted by Claremont...I mean eXiles.

Think of the team up books! It'd be like marvel's version of Lara Croft & Sara Pezzini

I freakin love you!

One of the main things ive wanted to see for Betsy since her transformation is a team/fight with Elektra. If any time is the time to do it, it NOW! With Psylocke returning to 616 and Elektra having her Dark Reign story its like the perfect setup to have them meet.

Tazirai
03-24-2009, 01:12 PM
Elektra.

I know it seems cliche, but they've both been through similar circumstances.

-Body modifications, mind wipes, Elektra was abducted by Aliens, Psylocke was abducted by Claremont...I mean eXiles.

Think of the team up books! It'd be like marvel's version of Lara Croft & Sara Pezzini

I wouldnt mind seeing that fight. I think it would kinda be one sided actually, either as a Telepath or a Telekinetic.

psycwave
03-24-2009, 01:18 PM
I wouldnt mind seeing that fight. I think it would kinda be one sided actually, either as a Telepath or a Telekinetic.

I actually think if they showed Betts training more withher martial arts it would be a pretty good fight. Sure she doesn't have as much training as Elektra but no matter what the body swap did she STILL was in Madripoor for months training and perfecting we saw that, I DONT CARE what Fabian Niceza tried to say. If Psylocke practiced more on both her skills and fine tuning her powers i think she could be a serious threat. Now im not saying she would win but she could at least give Elektra a little go. I also dont think the powerset would be put into play since Elektra is supposed to have some TK and some type of TP herself. But if anything I really just want them to acknowledge exactly what martial arts Betsy is supposed to know.

IseeFrost
03-24-2009, 08:57 PM
I was thinking more of a teamup than fighting each other

Tazirai
03-24-2009, 09:31 PM
I was thinking more of a teamup than fighting each other

It'd be a nice team up also. I would however like to see.. well IF! They ever do team up, and Psylocke has her TP back, I want her to be a smart fighter, rather than an overwhelming fighter. Elektra has YEARS of training and battles strictly on a physical level than Psylocke does, so it should show.

Let Psylocke fight as a tiger, but show some of the Lady she used to be. Let Elektra be the X-23 and emulate Psylocke. That would play well off each other.

Dagger
03-24-2009, 10:47 PM
She'd have her arse handed to her in a fight with Elektra. She's just the better ninja.

Polaris
03-24-2009, 11:32 PM
She'd have her arse handed to her in a fight with Elektra. She's just the better ninja.

Really? Even with powers? I don't know much about Elektra.

x_goalkeeper
03-25-2009, 04:49 AM
With the discussion about martial arts.. I am wondering if British Betsy was trained in martial arts? Or only when she became asian?

Tazirai
03-25-2009, 02:45 PM
With the discussion about martial arts.. I am wondering if British Betsy was trained in martial arts? Or only when she became asian?

No British version wasnt much of a fighter at all actually. I think she threw only one punch during her British x-men days. And that was during inferno and directed at Jean Grey. She was more of a Tactician than hand to hand specialist.
She used her powers better than most Telepaths did though.

jarrod
03-25-2009, 03:17 PM
Really? Even with powers? I don't know much about Elektra.
Elektra handed Wolverine his ass. She's tough.

NewMutant
03-25-2009, 03:19 PM
Anyone read Psylockes one shot this week? Spoilers?

i love the drastic art change for the last 1/4 of the issue lol.

.LuckyStar.
03-25-2009, 03:22 PM
Anyone read Psylockes one shot this week? Spoilers?

i love the drastic art change for the last 1/4 of the issue lol.

What, you read it? Spoil us!!! lol

NewMutant
03-25-2009, 03:23 PM
What, you read it? Spoil us!!! lol

haha. no i didn't I flipped through it at the store. Its funny because it had really beautiful detailed art for 3/4 of the issue. and then the last 7 pages are like cartoony art. lol

jarrod
03-25-2009, 03:24 PM
haha. no i didn't I flipped through it at the store. Its funny because it had really beautiful detailed art for 3/4 of the issue. and then the last 7 pages are like cartoony art. lol
How'd it end? Was CB in it?

psycwave
03-25-2009, 03:26 PM
haha. no i didn't I flipped through it at the store. Its funny because it had really beautiful detailed art for 3/4 of the issue. and then the last 7 pages are like cartoony art. lol

OMG did she die? Did she live? What do you know?????!?!?!

NewMutant
03-25-2009, 03:30 PM
HAHAHA. that would be funny if they killed her off in her one shot.

no she didnt die, shes joining uncanny...

Captain Britian is in it.. although i couldn't tell if it was like memories or what not...

x_goalkeeper
03-25-2009, 03:45 PM
No British version wasnt much of a fighter at all actually. I think she threw only one punch during her British x-men days. And that was during inferno and directed at Jean Grey. She was more of a Tactician than hand to hand specialist.
She used her powers better than most Telepaths did though.

Thank you for the answer Tazirai :smile:

I wondered if that was true.. British Betsy did not seem to look like a fighter-type physically.

psycwave
03-25-2009, 03:49 PM
HAHAHA. that would be funny if they killed her off in her one shot.

no she didnt die, shes joining uncanny...


CB is a hack! How does she go back to uncanny????? Do they welcome her back?! Do they even care?! New Mutant I need more!!

NewMutant
03-25-2009, 03:56 PM
CB is a hack! How does she go back to uncanny????? Do they welcome her back?! Do they even care?! New Mutant I need more!!

Well I didn't read the issue so I don't know. I'm not a CB fan either. And she doesn't go back to Uncanny in this book, or at least it didnt look like it. But shes on the cover of the June solicit with angel and beast. And fraction said shes coming back.

The Sword Is Drawn
03-25-2009, 03:59 PM
Captain Britian is in it.. although i couldn't tell if it was like memories or what not...

That bad, huh? Can't tell flashback from real time? Meh.

Did CC acknowledge modern Brian, or was his back to being Claremont's bumbling Englishman in a mask? :mad:

The Sword Is Drawn
03-25-2009, 04:00 PM
CB is a hack!

How the hell is Captain Britain a hack?

Leirus
03-25-2009, 07:00 PM
So... I need to go to bed... what was Sword of the Braddocks about?

little spoilers?

Bingo!
03-25-2009, 07:09 PM
So... I need to go to bed... what was Sword of the Braddocks about?

little spoilers?

The spoils:
Betsy jogs with Sage, confronts the Slaymaster, then they fight. No hint as to how to returns to 616.

For those who want to read Sword of the Braddocks:
Save your money and read the above spoiler.

The Thunderbird
03-25-2009, 07:15 PM
The spoils:
Betsy jogs with Sage, confronts the Slaymaster, then they fight. No hint as to how to returns to 616.

For those who want to read Sword of the Braddocks:
Save your money and read the above spoiler.

What happens when they fight? Who wins?

Bingo!
03-25-2009, 07:29 PM
What happens when they fight? Who wins?

Sword of the Braddocks spoiler:
Psylocke defeats Slaymaster while Brain watches. Throughout the issue Betsy states she wants to remain a protector of the omniverse and at the end she returns to the Crystal palace. There's a dull backup story of Wolverine and Betsy having a beer. Wolverine narrates and constantly says "eh."

psycwave
03-25-2009, 07:30 PM
Sword of the Braddocks spoiler:
Psylocke defeats Slaymaster while Brain watches. Throughout the issue Betsy states she wants to remain a protector of the omniverse and at the end she returns to the Crystal palace. There's a dull backup story of Wolverine and Betsy having a beer. Wolverine narrates and constantly says "eh."

I NEED SCANS!!!

CmX
03-25-2009, 07:58 PM
It was a reall lame issue with no real closure other than Psylocke killing off Slaymaster once and for all.

This issue officially establishes Psylocke being in a commited relationship with Creed, *shudders* fuck you Claremont.

She goes to 616 because she finds out somehow through some vision of the Crystal Palace that Slaymaster goes to 616 to kill Brian to lure her there or kill her not sure. So Betsy goes alone to stop it from happening and Brian is in his new outift and Betsy is on a motorcycle. (okay) She ends up defeating and killing Slaymaster and she's like, "OKAY BYE! I'M PART OF EXILES LOLZ" and it ends with her saying she loves coming home to somebody as her and Creed embrace WTF.

Ryan W
03-25-2009, 09:19 PM
Sounds eww.

But, on the plus side, that back-up story with she and Logan sounds promising! There's is one of my favorite x-friendships.

I think we need a reunion of the Pacific Trio (Betsy, Logan, and Jubilee) A.S.A.P.

lockerogue
03-25-2009, 09:26 PM
So I'm assuming that the new Exiles team will kick the New Exiles asses out of the Crystal Palace. That's the only way it makes sense (to me at least) for Betsy to come to 616. Eviction is bitch.

Tazirai
03-25-2009, 10:28 PM
If the spoilers above are true then Claremont really IS a hack...

At least I get to see a hot Brit Betsy again for a time.

AcesX1X
03-25-2009, 10:31 PM
SAGE had a wonderful co-starring role in this book.

i almost want to send a letter to marvel and ask that they reprint this issue with SAGE as the second headliner.

CmX
03-25-2009, 10:49 PM
If the spoilers above are true then Claremont really IS a hack...

No those spoilers aren't true. I made that all up by myself. :rolleyes:

wtf

4sake
03-26-2009, 12:03 AM
I kinda like the 1st story up to the end.. I loved the in the art in the 1st story. I didn't really understand what the was going on with the second till the end & I still don't really know who or what she was fighting. Both of the stories were WAY to wordie. Many on the bubble were really unnecessary to me. But in the end I'm glad i bought it because I loved the art & I was happy to see/read about Psylocke again. I I didn't really mind Sage being there because I missed reading about her also Because I hadn't read anything with them in since they left the 616 marvel.(because I can't deal with of CC writing for more than 1 issue even blue moon)

CmX
03-26-2009, 12:04 AM
I kinda like the 1st story up to the end.. I loved the in the art in the 1st story. I didn't really understand what the was going on with the second till the end & I still don't really know who or what she was fighting. Both of the stories were WAY to wordie. Many on the bubble were really unnecessary to me. But in the end I'm glad i bought it because I loved the art & I was happy to see/read about Psylocke again. I I didn't really mind Sage being there because I missed reading about her also Because I hadn't read anything with them in since they left the 616 marvel.(because I can't deal with of CC writing for more than 1 issue even blue moon)

Well never fear! Psylocke is returning to the real 616 titles starting with Uncanny's next arc with #508 next month. :) Written NOT by Claremont -- yay

Justin K.
03-26-2009, 12:16 AM
I love me some asian women but Maggie seriously lacks anything resembling a butt.

Reading through the comics
During the Psi-War, she didn't really have much of a booty
and Psylocke drawn by Bachalo, well same thing
I'm sure she could pull it off. There are some artists who choose to give her the booty
mainly to give her some sexuality to her look. Looking through fan-art, it's hard finding british betsy stuff.

The Sword Is Drawn
03-26-2009, 04:13 AM
For those who want to read Sword of the Braddocks:
Save your money and read the above spoiler.

Too late. I added it to my order some time ago. :frown:

Sword of the Braddocks spoiler:
Psylocke defeats Slaymaster while Brain watches. Throughout the issue Betsy states she wants to remain a protector of the omniverse and at the end she returns to the Crystal palace. There's a dull backup story of Wolverine and Betsy having a beer. Wolverine narrates and constantly says "eh."

Do we actually see siblings interact, for a change?

It was a reall lame issue with no real closure other than Psylocke killing off Slaymaster once and for all.

Well. Killing A Slaymaster. The original? Well, Brian smashed his brains out and she won't get a chance now. But I'm honestly not so sure as to how well she'd have taken the real one even now. I think it would almost always be a stalemate. The real Slaymaster was a bit like Bullseye is to Daredevil. He would always come back, and he was deadly beyond common sense. Not quite 'every object is a weapon'. But not far off.

I am kinda glad that this Slaymaster has not been such a racial stereotype though. The original wasn't exactly what you'd call PC.

This issue officially establishes Psylocke being in a commited relationship with Creed, *shudders* fuck you Claremont.

WRONG. WRONG. WRONG. WRONG... So much wrongness!

She goes to 616 because she finds out somehow through some vision of the Crystal Palace that Slaymaster goes to 616 to kill Brian to lure her there or kill her not sure.

What a stupid plan that is. Brian is like the... Captain Britain Prime, now. There's no contest anymore. Brian probably wouldn't kill him, but he'd certainly beat the guy into unconsciousness pretty quick.

So Betsy goes alone to stop it from happening and Brian is in his new outift and Betsy is on a motorcycle. (okay) She ends up defeating and killing Slaymaster and she's like, "OKAY BYE! I'M PART OF EXILES LOLZ"

CC can keep telling himself that all he likes. The only eXiles out there are NOT going to be his team...

and it ends with her saying she loves coming home to somebody as her and Creed embrace WTF.

Did I mention the WRONG? :evilangry:

SAGE had a wonderful co-starring role in this book.

i almost want to send a letter to marvel and ask that they reprint this issue with SAGE as the second headliner.

Are you Claremont in disguise?

Well never fear! Psylocke is returning to the real 616 titles starting with Uncanny's next arc with #508 next month. :) Written NOT by Claremont -- yay

Worryingly, given the implied story, I'm still not sure that's a good thing...

AcesX1X
03-26-2009, 06:10 AM
Are you Claremont in disguise?
...

if i were, i'd be incredibly busy making sage the star of the marvel universe.

Home made ectoplasm
03-26-2009, 06:13 AM
Can anybody provide detailed Sage spoilers / scans?

The Sword Is Drawn
03-26-2009, 08:05 AM
if i were, i'd be incredibly busy making sage the star of the marvel universe.

That's a YES, then. :rolleyes:

Can anybody provide detailed Sage spoilers / scans?

Not in a Psylocke thread.

Home made ectoplasm
03-26-2009, 08:14 AM
Not in a Psylocke thread.

can't or won't?

timbox
03-26-2009, 08:16 AM
Not in a Psylocke thread.

What an elitist! We would allow these scans to be posted in the Sage thread even though they also contain Psylocke.

Post them in the Sage thread if you are worried about retaliation from Psylocke crazies.

AcesX1X
03-26-2009, 08:19 AM
That's a YES, then. :rolleyes:


your reasoning continues to amaze.

are YOU claremont?

psycwave
03-26-2009, 08:19 AM
I have been asking for these scans for days(or since yesterday when the issue came out) Where is LuckyStar, is it on the blog yet? I want to see both Psylocke and Sage!!

The Sword Is Drawn
03-26-2009, 09:07 AM
I'm still waiting for my copy. Should be in the mail to me today, with any luck. Although, yes, I do not hold up particularly high hopes on recent form.

Anon_me
03-26-2009, 10:47 AM
Sounds eww.

But, on the plus side, that back-up story with she and Logan sounds promising! There's is one of my favorite x-friendships.

I think we need a reunion of the Pacific Trio (Betsy, Logan, and Jubilee) A.S.A.P.

Wasn't that just a reprint of the story where Logan was reminiscing about Betsy after she died in Xtreme X-Men.

CmX
03-26-2009, 02:01 PM
Wasn't that just a reprint of the story where Logan was reminiscing about Betsy after she died in Xtreme X-Men.

Yeah. It's from the old XMen Unlimited series. The story was written around 2002-03.

Tilt
03-26-2009, 02:20 PM
The Sword was painful to read goddess save Betsy. And the blue-black hair was annoying to me.

I hated that back story then, and I still hate it years later. They should have called it Bloody Crap.

Sorry to those that liked either, I still bought it because of Betsy though.

wonderland
03-26-2009, 02:21 PM
'SWORD OF THE BRADDOCKS'........what a waste of time, i thought 'DBTS' was bad but this was verging on awful. I was hoping for so much more: closure with the exiles for Psylocke; a 'better' reunion with her brother (and a least some MI13 guest stars); maybe even a hint of what's coming up in 'uncanny' and the new direction for exiles but no.. Instead CC acts as if everything is just going to go on as normal wtf..and Creed and Betsy, that's just wrong :frown: ....sorry mini rant over :smile: i will say that the art was good and i do love the cover..

can't wait for uncanny 508 :biggrin:

CmX
03-26-2009, 02:22 PM
The worst part is that CC originally asked the editors for a Psylocke mini series to finish the Slaymaster story. I'm so glad they only gave him one issue. Good riddance.

Tazirai
03-26-2009, 03:34 PM
No those spoilers aren't true. I made that all up by myself. :rolleyes:

wtf

Hehe. I just got the book today...

The worst part is that CC originally asked the editors for a Psylocke mini series to finish the Slaymaster story. I'm so glad they only gave him one issue. Good riddance.

Seriously im glad he didnt. I dont think I could Claremont killing primarily Brit versions of her over and over for issues. The art was outstanding but Im glad Psylocke FINALLY got her own book, even though Jubilee still got her. Jubs had a miniseries..

CmX
03-26-2009, 04:16 PM
Actually Jubilee's series was an ongoing, but it was cancelled with #4.

Novaya Havoc
03-26-2009, 04:30 PM
Did Rouge-Mort re-appear to do battle with Psylocke?

Plz tell me yes.

CmX
03-26-2009, 04:36 PM
Did Rouge-Mort re-appear to do battle with Psylocke?

Plz tell me yes.

Not to fight, but to film Betsy fist Creed on the last page.

rawhidekid
03-26-2009, 06:08 PM
Hi first time poster long time lurker here.

I just want to through out a couple questions that I'm sure has been asked.

Should Psylocke get a monthly?

If yes, so what should the premise be?

If no, why not?

I'll go first.

My answer is yes.

The premise is Elizabeth becomes a key player/member in the Hell Fire Club. I imagine the members are influential and will do anything to maintain the status quo. I picture alot of intrigue and dialogue. Hardly any physical combat only when assassination attempts are made in order to gain more influence. Now that I think of it this would be really hard to pull off. I think it would be cool to try something different than the fight the overt bad guy.

psycwave
03-26-2009, 06:56 PM
Hi first time poster long time lurker here.

I just want to through out a couple questions that I'm sure has been asked.

Should Psylocke get a monthly?

If yes, so what should the premise be?

If no, why not?

I'll go first.

My answer is yes.

The premise is Elizabeth becomes a key player/member in the Hell Fire Club. I imagine the members are influential and will do anything to maintain the status quo. I picture alot of intrigue and dialogue. Hardly any physical combat only when assassination attempts are made in order to gain more influence. Now that I think of it this would be really hard to pull off. I think it would be cool to try something different than the fight the overt bad guy.

First welcome rawhidekid. Your name intrigues me but for the reasons why i shall not say...in light of your question Yes.

I have two premises though. the first is dealing with Betsy in her younger years as a model and agent of S.T.R.I.K.E. It would focus on the things she went through to get into STRIKE. How she came about modeling and supermodel status conflicting with her secret agent agenda. Of course there would be other plots involving the organization and villians and whatnot.

The second deals more with present time Betsy. Her lost affiliation with the HAND and everything to do with her being a ninja. Her time as Lady Mandarin should be accounted for and anyone she came into conflict with at that time. It could also open the door for new storylines involving The Hand(of course), Daredevil maybe, Elektra(YAY), The rivals of the HAND i can't remember their names, and even Mojo and Sprial.

If these couldn't stand their own titles I would even love them as a series of mini's.

Tazirai
03-27-2009, 12:32 AM
First welcome rawhidekid. Your name intrigues me but for the reasons why i shall not say...in light of your question Yes.

I have two premises though. the first is dealing with Betsy in her younger years as a model and agent of S.T.R.I.K.E. It would focus on the things she went through to get into STRIKE. How she came about modeling and supermodel status conflicting with her secret agent agenda. Of course there would be other plots involving the organization and villians and whatnot.

The second deals more with present time Betsy. Her lost affiliation with the HAND and everything to do with her being a ninja. Her time as Lady Mandarin should be accounted for and anyone she came into conflict with at that time. It could also open the door for new storylines involving The Hand(of course), Daredevil maybe, Elektra(YAY), The rivals of the HAND i can't remember their names, and even Mojo and Sprial.

If these couldn't stand their own titles I would even love them as a series of mini's.


Your first Premise has already been written. I seriously dont want/need them to go back and retcon that. They'll probably make her asian AFTER Jim Jaspers reality warp. The second one i'd be less interested in only because it would become a "Betsy poses with her arse out" book.

Aelle3
03-27-2009, 02:11 AM
Oh no, I’m not looking forward to reading sword of the braddocks, though im glad brian is in his new uniform. I gave up on uncanny a few issues ago, and I really wish she wasn’t joining up. Id like to see her maybe do the rounds in the martial arts books elektra, iron fist and whatever.

The Sword Is Drawn
03-27-2009, 03:17 AM
'SWORD OF THE BRADDOCKS'........what a waste of time, i thought 'DBTS' was bad but this was verging on awful. I was hoping for so much more: closure with the exiles for Psylocke; a 'better' reunion with her brother (and a least some MI13 guest stars); maybe even a hint of what's coming up in 'uncanny' and the new direction for exiles but no.. Instead CC acts as if everything is just going to go on as normal wtf.

At this point, though, does really surprise you? Honestly? I mean this is the guy who brought Roma back from the dead and pretended Brian had never been Omniversal Guardian in House of M. It's sad to see, but Claremont these days really does seem to create his own little version of continuity, which I'm sure works fine in his head, but usually contradicts the rest of the Marvel Universe and simply doesn't work.

There's a reason that his best work of the last decade has been X-Men: The End. Because it was an alternate timeline, and didn't have to fit with everybody else. I'm sure X-Men Forever will probably work out, for the same reason.

Did Rouge-Mort re-appear to do battle with Psylocke?

Plz tell me yes.

How could she? Everybody knows Meggan's in Captain Britain and MI13, now... :rolleyes: :biggrin:

Not to fight, but to film Betsy fist Creed on the last page.

Take that image BACK! :eek:

Twisted Bliss
03-27-2009, 03:29 AM
Ok.

I was mindlessly excercising on the cross-trainer last night when thoughts of Psylocke popped in my brain.

'Why did they make her asian?'
'why did they ramp down her Telepathy with that stupid psychic knife...well an up close combat ninja with longe range psy powers would be over-powered....'

Then they screwed with her to make her telekinetic....I hate that.....oh don't forget the crimson dawn fiasco.....dagger over the eye...rachel had the phoenix emblem over her eye....rachel's phoenix powers went away 'mom....not now...'

OMG !! What if Psylockes TK is a fragment of the Phoenix. Telepaths seem to share some universal connection to the Phoenix, the cuckoo's are supposed to have fragments. Rachel clearly had a fragment which Jean pulled back (or so it would seem).... What if Psylockes return to 616 ha be orchestrated by the Phoenix in order it could reform all its fragments into a whole.

What if upon her return Psylocke is engulfed in the fires of the phoenix. The TK was supposed to be as a result of a power swap with Jean. So what if it was actually a fragment of the phoenix. Upon Betsy's return the fires engulf her burning away her asian body to restore her to her true form. Undoing her brothers reality alterations to her. Strips her of the phoenix TK fragment she has and restores her telepathy.

Phoenix buggers off to Jean. We get Psylocke in a Brit body. A telepathic Betsy without the 'Claremazonian' tinkering.

I'm sure its been posed before but I'd pretty much given up on Betsy the moment she became bikini thong woman so haven't read that much about her.

x_goalkeeper
03-27-2009, 04:57 AM
Ok.

I was mindlessly excercising on the cross-trainer last night when thoughts of Psylocke popped in my brain.

'Why did they make her asian?'
'why did they ramp down her Telepathy with that stupid psychic knife...well an up close combat ninja with longe range psy powers would be over-powered....'

Then they screwed with her to make her telekinetic....I hate that.....oh don't forget the crimson dawn fiasco.....dagger over the eye...rachel had the phoenix emblem over her eye....rachel's phoenix powers went away 'mom....not now...'

OMG !! What if Psylockes TK is a fragment of the Phoenix. Telepaths seem to share some universal connection to the Phoenix, the cuckoo's are supposed to have fragments. Rachel clearly had a fragment which Jean pulled back (or so it would seem).... What if Psylockes return to 616 ha be orchestrated by the Phoenix in order it could reform all its fragments into a whole.

What if upon her return Psylocke is engulfed in the fires of the phoenix. The TK was supposed to be as a result of a power swap with Jean. So what if it was actually a fragment of the phoenix. Upon Betsy's return the fires engulf her burning away her asian body to restore her to her true form. Undoing her brothers reality alterations to her. Strips her of the phoenix TK fragment she has and restores her telepathy.

Brit body. Telepathic Betsy without the 'Claremazonian' tinkering.

I'm sure its been posed before but I'd pretty much given up on Betsy the moment she became bikini thong woman so haven't read that much about her.

I like the theory.. it makes a lot of sense if the return to British form is the final action.

But do the Cuckoos have TK? I did not know that was true.

Twisted Bliss
03-27-2009, 05:05 AM
I like the theory.. it makes a lot of sense if the return to British form is the final action.

But do the Cuckoos have TK? I did not know that was true.

No they have phoenix fragments. The phoenix fragments aren't just limited to TK ability.

worstblogever
03-27-2009, 05:30 AM
The Phoenix burns away what doesn't work.

Betsy's been spoiled for years, and hasn't held down a job, instead dallying around with rich men for fun and sport.

The Phoenix seems more likely to incinerate her, than leave a portion of its power with her.

.LuckyStar.
03-27-2009, 09:17 AM
The worst part is that CC originally asked the editors for a Psylocke mini series to finish the Slaymaster story. I'm so glad they only gave him one issue. Good riddance.

LOL for real? I'd love a Psylocke mini, but not by CC!!! Finally after 9 years, she's free!!!

As for Sword of the Braddocks, I REAAALLY loved the art, can't stop looking at it! The story was sooo predictable. How come she goes back to the Exiles? Lame!
And I like Twisted Bliss ideia! Let the Phoenix collect Betsy's TK, this way her TP can return!

psycwave
03-27-2009, 09:28 AM
Can I just say the Betsy's hair in this mini was freakin frakin fabulous!!! The art was wonderful.


And the silhoutettes of the two betsy's on the immediate left have fantastic costumes that should be taken into consideration for the next Psylocke outfit.

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/X-MenSwordOfTheBraddocks-08.png

metalgorgomon
03-27-2009, 10:28 AM
@psycwave, that is my favorite panel from the one shot!!


LOL for real? I'd love a Psylocke mini, but not by CC!!! Finally after 9 years, she's free!!!

As for Sword of the Braddocks, I REAAALLY loved the art, can't stop looking at it! The story was sooo predictable. How come she goes back to the Exiles? Lame!
And I like Twisted Bliss ideia! Let the Phoenix collect Betsy's TK, this way her TP can return!

I agree with everything you said, .LuckyStar.
While the story was just too predictable and the ending was very disapointing....I freaking loooove the art. It was just soo good.
My second favorite panel was the one with Betsy crying tears of blood. It's just awesome..

I do like the idea of her visiting her favorite designers (although we didn't see it on panel..)

I'd be great if Mike Carey or Chris Yost writes Psylocke (mini) series with the art team from the X-Men:Sword Of Braddock..

Jack Flash
03-27-2009, 11:21 AM
Ok.

I was mindlessly excercising on the cross-trainer last night when thoughts of Psylocke popped in my brain.

'Why did they make her asian?'
'why did they ramp down her Telepathy with that stupid psychic knife...well an up close combat ninja with longe range psy powers would be over-powered....'

Then they screwed with her to make her telekinetic....I hate that.....oh don't forget the crimson dawn fiasco.....dagger over the eye...rachel had the phoenix emblem over her eye....rachel's phoenix powers went away 'mom....not now...'

OMG !! What if Psylockes TK is a fragment of the Phoenix. Telepaths seem to share some universal connection to the Phoenix, the cuckoo's are supposed to have fragments. Rachel clearly had a fragment which Jean pulled back (or so it would seem).... What if Psylockes return to 616 ha be orchestrated by the Phoenix in order it could reform all its fragments into a whole.

What if upon her return Psylocke is engulfed in the fires of the phoenix. The TK was supposed to be as a result of a power swap with Jean. So what if it was actually a fragment of the phoenix. Upon Betsy's return the fires engulf her burning away her asian body to restore her to her true form. Undoing her brothers reality alterations to her. Strips her of the phoenix TK fragment she has and restores her telepathy.

Phoenix buggers off to Jean. We get Psylocke in a Brit body. A telepathic Betsy without the 'Claremazonian' tinkering.

I'm sure its been posed before but I'd pretty much given up on Betsy the moment she became bikini thong woman so haven't read that much about her.

I think this idea is plausible. Especially considering the whole 6 month Gap power swap is so murky. At this point I think they need to separate Psylocke into 3 distinct characters, that way they don't lose the kewl Asian Ninja with telekinesis that they are so desperate to use.

There is British Betsy the Telepath who longs to be a fighter.
There is Kwannon the Asian Ninja with Teke powers.
There is a third Madripoorian with Shadow Shifting Crimson Dawn powers.

Then you have three distinct characters to move forward with and writers can take their pick.

jarrod
03-27-2009, 11:51 AM
Well, in addition to the 6 month gap power swap with Jean, it was sort of implied that Jamie used Rachel's energy to resurrect Betsy in Reload. That's two ties to the Phoenix potentially.

Still, I'd like any future power swap to involve getting back her original body. If they're keeping Betts asian, I'd just as soon keep the teke.

Pixie_Solanas
03-27-2009, 12:01 PM
Can I just say the Betsy's hair in this mini was freakin frakin fabulous!!! The art was wonderful.


And the silhoutettes of the two betsy's on the immediate left have fantastic costumes that should be taken into consideration for the next Psylocke outfit.

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/X-MenSwordOfTheBraddocks-08.png

Was this panel in the current "Sword of Braddocks"?

This panel is so much win right here.

Tazirai
03-27-2009, 12:16 PM
Ok.

I was mindlessly excercising on the cross-trainer last night when thoughts of Psylocke popped in my brain.

'Why did they make her asian?'
'why did they ramp down her Telepathy with that stupid psychic knife...well an up close combat ninja with longe range psy powers would be over-powered....'

Then they screwed with her to make her telekinetic....I hate that.....oh don't forget the crimson dawn fiasco.....dagger over the eye...rachel had the phoenix emblem over her eye....rachel's phoenix powers went away 'mom....not now...'

OMG !! What if Psylockes TK is a fragment of the Phoenix. Telepaths seem to share some universal connection to the Phoenix, the cuckoo's are supposed to have fragments. Rachel clearly had a fragment which Jean pulled back (or so it would seem).... What if Psylockes return to 616 ha be orchestrated by the Phoenix in order it could reform all its fragments into a whole.

What if upon her return Psylocke is engulfed in the fires of the phoenix. The TK was supposed to be as a result of a power swap with Jean. So what if it was actually a fragment of the phoenix. Upon Betsy's return the fires engulf her burning away her asian body to restore her to her true form. Undoing her brothers reality alterations to her. Strips her of the phoenix TK fragment she has and restores her telepathy.

Phoenix buggers off to Jean. We get Psylocke in a Brit body. A telepathic Betsy without the 'Claremazonian' tinkering.

I'm sure its been posed before but I'd pretty much given up on Betsy the moment she became bikini thong woman so haven't read that much about her.

I wouldnt mind seeing that.

Lets remember just because she's British doesnt make her helpless. She could retain the fighting skill. And be just as beautiful to look at. Dun get why people think she'd be ugly or couldn't fight less, if that happened.

Tazirai
03-27-2009, 12:20 PM
I think this idea is plausible. Especially considering the whole 6 month Gap power swap is so murky. At this point I think they need to separate Psylocke into 3 distinct characters, that way they don't lose the kewl Asian Ninja with telekinesis that they are so desperate to use.

There is British Betsy the Telepath who longs to be a fighter.
There is Kwannon the Asian Ninja with Teke powers.
There is a third Madripoorian with Shadow Shifting Crimson Dawn powers.

Then you have three distinct characters to move forward with and writers can take their pick.

The problem is that even if your premise were to happen.
We'd ONLY see Kwanon.. "gotta have the hot asian ninja-kini thing ya know."

British Betsy would go to MI13, she'd retain some fighting skill but not ninja levels.

Madripoorian one would be relegated to specials only to be killed off in one of said specials.

psycwave
03-27-2009, 12:53 PM
Was this panel in the current "Sword of Braddocks"?

This panel is so much win right here.

Yes it is. The art and that panel alone was the only worthwile thing about buying that one-shot.

AcesX1X
03-27-2009, 12:54 PM
maybe the easiest answer is to give her the capability to switch forms at will.

jarrod
03-27-2009, 12:57 PM
Ugh, Kwannon was enough but I don't want 3 Psylockes. That would be the kiss of death for the character. :/

Honestly, I like the asian bod and the teke, I'm fine with both staying. If you want to tweak the formula, add the precog back or something. We've got enough telepaths in San Fran at the moment (Emma, Shan, Cuckoos, soon Xavier), unless she's leaving the X-Books (for Mi-13) I'd prefer Betsy stay a bit more differentiated.

Jack Flash
03-27-2009, 12:58 PM
maybe the easiest answer is to give her the capability to switch forms at will.

LOL, Like Maniken?

MartinRedmond
03-27-2009, 12:59 PM
It looks like she's handing out 2 handjobs at once.

psycwave
03-27-2009, 01:00 PM
Ugh, Kwannon was enough but I don't want 3 Psylockes. That would be the kiss of death for the character. :/

Honestly, I like the asian bod and the teke, I'm fine with both staying. If you want to tweak the formula, add the precog back or something. We've got enough telepaths in San Fran at the moment (Emma, Shan, Cuckoos, soon Xavier), unless she's leaving the X-Books (for Mi-13) I'd prefer Betsy stay a bit more differentiated.

I agree with this completely. I also want her to brush up on her fighting skills and become a competent fighter again. And if she is so adamant about using the teke sword I want it to affect the physical instead of the mental. Teke is a force it should actually be ablt to cut.

jarrod
03-27-2009, 01:03 PM
I agree with this completely. I also want her to brush up on her fighting skills and become a competent fighter again. And if she is so adamant about using the teke sword I want it to affect the physical instead of the mental. Teke is a force it should actually be ablt to cut.
Totally agreed. We get the constant talk about Betsy preferring physical confrontation, and logically teke plays better into that, but it's really rarely shown on panel. The teke sword should be purely physical threat, rather than a longer version of her psychic knife. :/

jarrod
03-27-2009, 01:05 PM
It looks like she's handing out 2 handjobs at once.
That better describes the infamous Land cover.

cgar
03-27-2009, 06:21 PM
Uh so i read it. Full of Fail Yo

Art was nice.

She already defeated Slaymaster. It was dumb that CC made it seem like she didnt. And basically did it all over agian.

Her new found love for being an Exile was annoying.

Being reunited with her brother could of been done better.

CC just needs to stop. He ruins things. I kind of feel sorry for Sage fans now too i mean she was something now she's just some omniversal blahness.

She pops into 616 and then goes back home to Sabretooth. COME ON wtf
There's more but i am frustrated by this issue

The Sword Is Drawn
03-27-2009, 06:23 PM
Uh so i read it. Full of Fail Yo

Art was nice.

She already defeated Slaymaster. It was dumb that CC made it seem like she didnt. And basically did it all over agian.

Her new found love for being an Exile was annoying.

Being reunited with her brother could of been done better.

CC just needs to stop. He ruins things. I kind of feel sorry for Sage fans now too i mean she was something now she's just some omniversal blahness.

She pops into 616 and then goes back home to Sabretooth. COME ON wtf
There's more but i am frustrated by this issue

You're not alone. But I fear if I try to discuss it any further again I will be labelled as being psychotic...

Tazirai
03-27-2009, 08:54 PM
I agree with this completely. I also want her to brush up on her fighting skills and become a competent fighter again. And if she is so adamant about using the teke sword I want it to affect the physical instead of the mental. Teke is a force it should actually be ablt to cut.

I mean Sylar makes good use of TK.. and he only uses a finger ...la!

Ryan W
03-28-2009, 10:13 AM
I thumbed through it in my LCS and promptly put it back, ESPECIALLY after confirming the "Creed connection." Gross.

psycwave
03-28-2009, 02:48 PM
I just glad that whenBetsy returns to 616 we will never have to speak of the "Creed connection" ever again. Lets hope Fraction pulls a Niceza and never reads New Exiles so he can just ignore it completely.

.LuckyStar.
03-28-2009, 08:42 PM
I just glad that whenBetsy returns to 616 we will never have to speak of the "Creed connection" ever again. Lets hope Fraction pulls a Niceza and never reads New Exiles so he can just ignore it completely.

LOL the only thing I want them to remember is her training with Ogun and Sabretooth!

.LuckyStar.
03-28-2009, 08:43 PM
!!!

http://www.fanfare-se.com/Images/Category_2/subcat_245/UncannyXMen509Cover.jpg

CmX
03-28-2009, 08:58 PM
That's a badass psychic knife! Her legs looks too boney though, and I don't like how Land draws her hair puffy like it has loads of hair spray. But either way that's still a pretty badass cover lol

nightw1ng
03-28-2009, 09:10 PM
while it's nice they're acknowledging her previous body, land's asian betsy looks exactly the same as british betsy. was it really too hard to draw half her face as asian?

Tazirai
03-28-2009, 11:09 PM
Only problem I have with that Pic is that the Woman weighs 155lbs and she looks anorexic below the hips.. outside of that it's a damn fine piece of art.

.LuckyStar.
03-28-2009, 11:34 PM
My only grip with this are the ridicously huge breasts, other than that I love it!
Must confess that I kinda prefer Land's art over Dodson's.

jarrod
03-28-2009, 11:50 PM
Only problem I have with that Pic is that the Woman weighs 155lbs and she looks anorexic below the hips.. outside of that it's a damn fine piece of art.
Well, she's also 5'11'' and those tits have gotta be 15-20 lbs each. If she didn't have mountain-smashing teke, I fear she'd have arrestingly chronic back pain. :(

eurazn
03-29-2009, 12:14 AM
!!!

http://www.fanfare-se.com/Images/Category_2/subcat_245/UncannyXMen509Cover.jpg

Shouldn't the Asian side of her hair be less curly? With a few exceptions, it's usually straight ...

I agree with the other posters about her tiny legs. On another note, I wish I could find an exercise regimen to give me shoulders as broad as hers!

The Sword Is Drawn
03-29-2009, 07:42 AM
That's a badass psychic knife! Her legs looks too boney though, and I don't like how Land draws her hair puffy like it has loads of hair spray. But either way that's still a pretty badass cover lol

My question would be as to whether this was intended as a retrospective story, or not. I mean one side is obviously the past, but if the left hand side is intended to be the present? Well, the psychic knife is a great thing. But that was part of her psi-powers, not TK. I really want to see those back, but is this a hint that they might be coming back, or just a nice picture?

!!!

http://www.fanfare-se.com/Images/Category_2/subcat_245/UncannyXMen509Cover.jpg

I actually do like this cover. A bit more effort and thought going into it for a start. I feel I have to give Land credit for this one.

Jack Flash
03-29-2009, 07:51 AM
I just glad that whenBetsy returns to 616 we will never have to speak of the "Creed connection" ever again. Lets hope Fraction pulls a Niceza and never reads New Exiles so he can just ignore it completely.

i hope she brings it up in every panel she appears in.

psycwave
03-29-2009, 09:25 AM
i hope she brings it up in every panel she appears in.

Right after she and Warpath return from their flying lessons. <3

As for the cover like most others my main issue is the severely skinny legs though her funbags are looking EXTRA fun.

CmX
03-29-2009, 02:56 PM
I like the smoke effect her psychic knife has. I hope this is more than a pin-up but Betsy's British version is hardly ever found on panel much less a cover.

metalgorgomon
03-29-2009, 07:49 PM
I do like the UXM #509 cover, but agreed that she looked like an anorexic person in that cover. Can't wait for the final version of the cover..

Guess she's coming back in #509 after all, despite the #510 banner included in the Marvel preview last month.

And I really like that Marvel has been giving Psylocke beautiful covers for the last several months.
Come to think of it, I think she's the only X-Woman that has 3 solo covers in the last 7-8 months.. All looked gorgeous and.. with different costumes :smile:

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/Psylockecovers2008-2009.jpg

eurazn
03-29-2009, 08:34 PM
I do like the UXM #509 cover, but agreed that she looked like an anorexic person in that cover. Can't wait for the final version of the cover..

Guess she's coming back in #509 after all, despite the #510 banner included in the Marvel preview last month.

And I really like that Marvel has been giving Psylocke beautiful covers for the last several months.
Come to think of it, I think she's the only X-Woman that has 3 solo covers in the last 7-8 months.. All looked gorgeous and.. with different costumes :smile:

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm1/metalgorgomon/Psylockecovers2008-2009.jpg

She looks absolutely stunning in that middle image ...

jarrod
03-30-2009, 01:05 AM
Is anyone else getting nervous about Betts and War sharing that cover together? I've just started becoming an Angel fan (after years of H8) but I really, really don't want to see them reliving old times or whatever.

Honestly, I'd rather she slept with Hank. :/

CmX
03-30-2009, 01:12 AM
At this point after CC hinting at her hooking up with Beast and then her fucking Creed, I don't care. Anyone is a step up from here on out.

The Sword Is Drawn
03-30-2009, 02:29 AM
Is anyone else getting nervous about Betts and War sharing that cover together? I've just started becoming an Angel fan (after years of H8) but I really, really don't want to see them reliving old times or whatever.

I can't say I really minded the pairing. But it was ended very awkwardly.

I think that Warren has changed far too much, now, to be honest. Plus it would be almost impossible to be having any kind of relationship with anyone and keep his X-Force activity hidden.

x_goalkeeper
03-30-2009, 03:52 AM
I can't say I really minded the pairing. But it was ended very awkwardly.

I think that Warren has changed far too much, now, to be honest. Plus it would be almost impossible to be having any kind of relationship with anyone and keep his X-Force activity hidden.

Best way for a relationship to work is with someone also in X-Force probably =)

jarrod
03-30-2009, 10:47 AM
At this point after CC hinting at her hooking up with Beast and then her fucking Creed, I don't care. Anyone is a step up from here on out.
Kurt was a step up. :frown:


I can't say I really minded the pairing. But it was ended very awkwardly.

I think that Warren has changed far too much, now, to be honest. Plus it would be almost impossible to be having any kind of relationship with anyone and keep his X-Force activity hidden.
I know, but I still don't trust Fraction to follow logic or continuity...


Best way for a relationship to work is with someone also in X-Force probably =)
He should date Rahne. She's more in his target age group.

x_goalkeeper
03-30-2009, 11:05 AM
He should date Rahne. She's more in his target age group.

That is interesting for Angel really. Rahne may still have feelings for Rictor though?

Also, I thought Psylocke would be older than Rahne? :confused:

Ryan W
03-30-2009, 11:32 AM
I think they're around the same age, which is aprt of the reason they were so close . . . But anyway. Back to Betsy. :biggrin:

I want her to have an entire issue where she and Warren have it out. Remember way back when we'd have those "down time" issues where a handful of characters would get the spotlight? Some of those are phenomenal stories. The Jean and Hank discuss turning 30 issue, the Jubilee and Charles hang out issue, the Warren and Betsy infiltrate the Hellfire Club issue, the Scott and Jean move out of the mansion to Alaska issue . . . All of them (and there are more) were some of my favorites!

So I want Betsy and Warren to walk around San Fran and just spend the day together and catch up/have it out about everything between them.

eurazn
03-30-2009, 12:29 PM
I think they're around the same age, which is aprt of the reason they were so close . . . But anyway. Back to Betsy. :biggrin:

I want her to have an entire issue where she and Warren have it out. Remember way back when we'd have those "down time" issues where a handful of characters would get the spotlight? Some of those are phenomenal stories. The Jean and Hank discuss turning 30 issue, the Jubilee and Charles hang out issue, the Warren and Betsy infiltrate the Hellfire Club issue, the Scott and Jean move out of the mansion to Alaska issue . . . All of them (and there are more) were some of my favorites!

So I want Betsy and Warren to walk around San Fran and just spend the day together and catch up/have it out about everything between them.

I noticed you didn't mention Psylocke jogging with Sage in your retrospective ... why is that? :rolleyes: :biggrin:

darknessatnoon
03-30-2009, 12:29 PM
I noticed you didn't mention Psylocke jogging with Sage in your retrospective ... why is that? :rolleyes: :biggrin:

Homophobia.

Sage and Psylocke have clearly gone native (into the Pink).

MartinRedmond
03-30-2009, 12:31 PM
Warren is going to get Pixie pregnant. I already spoiled it a few weeks back.

CmX
03-30-2009, 01:14 PM
I wouldn't mind if Warren and Psylocke both got back together, but I'd prefer her to stay single for awhile. After this Creed tranny mess I'm just kinda hoping Psylocke goes through a born again virgin thing. Maybe they can make an arc or annual about it? Maybe that's why she joins the X-Club while they search for a way to restore the x-gene they on the side find a way to restore the damage done to Betsy's danger zone.

jarrod
03-30-2009, 01:26 PM
That is interesting for Angel really. Rahne may still have feelings for Rictor though?

Also, I thought Psylocke would be older than Rahne? :confused:
Betsy is older than Rahne... by about 16 years actually.

Rahne is the same age as Warren's last girlfriend though.

MartinRedmond
03-30-2009, 01:32 PM
Please, Jarrod, everyone knows it's gonna take the jaws of life to loosen Rhane up. Don't be ridiculous in your fantasies.

.LuckyStar.
03-30-2009, 02:14 PM
I wouldn't mind if Warren and Psylocke both got back together, but I'd prefer her to stay single for awhile. After this Creed tranny mess I'm just kinda hoping Psylocke goes through a born again virgin thing. Maybe they can make an arc or annual about it? Maybe that's why she joins the X-Club while they search for a way to restore the x-gene they on the side find a way to restore the damage done to Betsy's danger zone.

Agreed! I'm a sucker for Warren and Betsy <3 I'd love for them to get back, but not immediately. Both have a lot going on for them now. They should be best friends for now.

eurazn
03-30-2009, 02:37 PM
Agreed! I'm a sucker for Warren and Betsy <3 I'd love for them to get back, but not immediately. Both have a lot going on for them now. They should be best friends for now.

Dazzler and Psylocke should reunite and commiserate about his shortcomings instead :biggrin:

jarrod
03-30-2009, 02:40 PM
Dazzler and Psylocke should reunite and commiserate about his shortcomings instead :biggrin:
Or they could talk about the monster size of Beast's tongue. ;)

eurazn
03-30-2009, 02:42 PM
Or they could talk about the monster size of Beast's tongue. ;)

R'Chel could join in that conversation, too, since she has a penchant for blue-furred Uncle figures.

jarrod
03-30-2009, 02:46 PM
R'Chel could join in that conversation, too, since she has a penchant for blue-furred Uncle figures.
Ugh... now I'm sad for the missed Burtsy opportunity. :frown:

Exciting we're getting basically an 80s X-lady reunion soon in Uncanny and New Mutants, but kinda sad that Jean and the Excalibur girls are still off the radar. :(

eurazn
03-30-2009, 02:47 PM
Ugh... now I'm sad for the missed Burtsy opportunity. :frown:

Exciting we're getting basically an 80s X-lady reunion soon in Uncanny and New Mutants, but kinda sad that Jean and the Excalibur girls are still off the radar. :(

Once Jean comes back, they can all eat cereal in the background of a single panel in Uncanny.

Ryan W
03-30-2009, 07:58 PM
What kind of cereal would Betsy eat?

I bet she'd eat Wheatabix. :tongue: Gross!

Perhaps Frosted Sugar Bombs? Maybe Jubes got her hooked.

lockerogue
03-30-2009, 09:21 PM
Betsy seems like a Captain Crunch kind of girl. She may even enjoy Trix.

eurazn
03-30-2009, 10:24 PM
I think she enjoys the occasional bowl of Mueslix.

Justin K.
03-31-2009, 12:57 AM
http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=8664975&postcount=1361

Enjoy! :smile:

eurazn
03-31-2009, 01:10 AM
http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=8664975&postcount=1361

Enjoy! :smile:

Very nice as always, Justin! That third one is especially nice ... I love the purple power signature.

Justin K.
03-31-2009, 01:22 AM
Very nice as always, Justin! That third one is especially nice ... I love the purple power signature.

Thanks :smile: I get bored...

x_goalkeeper
03-31-2009, 06:57 AM
Betsy is older than Rahne... by about 16 years actually.

Rahne is the same age as Warren's last girlfriend though.

You are probably correct, Warren likes a younger companion now =)

What kind of cereal would Betsy eat?


I think she would eat healthier food than cereal at breakfast probably!

OAK
03-31-2009, 07:14 PM
Hey, everybody!!
Psylocke is my favourite personage... The personality of it well is differentiated.
It better deserved to be explored... Something as Psylocke origins.

Two weeks behind, I made two pages of test:

http://fc15.deviantart.com/fs40/f/2009/016/1/4/psylocke_01_sample_by_OAK_Art_Gallery.jpg

http://fc18.deviantart.com/fs40/f/2009/016/9/f/psylocke_02_sample_by_OAK_Art_Gallery.jpg

Marvel Sketch Cards:

http://fc18.deviantart.com/fs41/f/2009/051/d/a/Marvel_Sketch_Cards_by_OAK_Art_Gallery.jpg

Thanks,

Peace!

CmX
03-31-2009, 07:48 PM
Wow that's very good art!! You have a lot of talent and can draw a very nice Psylocke! :)

metalgorgomon
03-31-2009, 09:39 PM
Welcome to CBR, OAK! Glad you dropped by to Psylocke's thread.

I absolutely love your drawing of Psylocke. The first and last panel are fantastic IMO. Love the butterfly aura!!

CmX
03-31-2009, 10:37 PM
Me too! His style reminds me of Frank Cho's a bit! Keep up the great work and share more of your Psylocke work! :)

OAK
03-31-2009, 10:47 PM
Hey!
Cmx and Metalgorgomon... Thanks!
I am happy that they have liked it my work.

Hug!

cgar
03-31-2009, 11:56 PM
oak that is some nice stuff. very good. your psylocke is beautiful

Pardoner
04-01-2009, 12:48 AM
Wow those panels are fanfuckingtastic- nothing like the the old school (first body switch, anyways) TP ninja that used body doubles...classic.

OAK
04-01-2009, 09:56 AM
Hey!
Thanks, cqar and pardoner.
I love very of the old school, I try mixtures old and the new.
I wait to obtain a good result with this. Soon I will place plus some related thing the Psylocke.

Thanks! :smile:

Tazirai
04-01-2009, 01:31 PM
Hey!
Thanks, cqar and pardoner.
I love very of the old school, I try mixtures old and the new.
I wait to obtain a good result with this. Soon I will place plus some related thing the Psylocke.

Thanks! :smile:

Great great Job on your art.. Can I get a request however?
Your Psylocke is gorgeous, think you can do one without the ninjakini though?
I hate to be the sole voice of dissent. My talent in art is good but better at architecture and glyphery.

psycwave
04-01-2009, 01:39 PM
Is anyone else getting nervous about Betts and War sharing that cover together? I've just started becoming an Angel fan (after years of H8) but I really, really don't want to see them reliving old times or whatever.

Honestly, I'd rather she slept with Hank. :/

I was never a big fan of the Betsy/Warren pairing. I mean i could see its pro's and saw potential but it never struck home with me. I will always support Burtsy.




And Oak, that is freaking fantastic.

eggie
04-01-2009, 02:34 PM
Hey, everybody!!
Psylocke is my favourite personage... The personality of it well is differentiated.
It better deserved to be explored... Something as Psylocke origins.

Two weeks behind, I made two pages of test:

http://fc15.deviantart.com/fs40/f/2009/016/1/4/psylocke_01_sample_by_OAK_Art_Gallery.jpg

http://fc18.deviantart.com/fs40/f/2009/016/9/f/psylocke_02_sample_by_OAK_Art_Gallery.jpg

Marvel Sketch Cards:

http://fc18.deviantart.com/fs41/f/2009/051/d/a/Marvel_Sketch_Cards_by_OAK_Art_Gallery.jpg

Thanks,

Peace!

WOW! Why aren't you working for Marvel?!? Great Stuff!!

cgar
04-01-2009, 02:36 PM
Hey, everybody!!
Psylocke is my favourite personage... The personality of it well is differentiated.
It better deserved to be explored... Something as Psylocke origins.

Two weeks behind, I made two pages of test:

http://fc15.deviantart.com/fs40/f/2009/016/1/4/psylocke_01_sample_by_OAK_Art_Gallery.jpg

http://fc18.deviantart.com/fs40/f/2009/016/9/f/psylocke_02_sample_by_OAK_Art_Gallery.jpg

Marvel Sketch Cards:

http://fc18.deviantart.com/fs41/f/2009/051/d/a/Marvel_Sketch_Cards_by_OAK_Art_Gallery.jpg

Thanks,

Peace!

someone needs to ink that for you.or whatever. whoever fills it in is called

psycwave
04-04-2009, 12:38 PM
Its April the time is almost upon us.

OAK
04-06-2009, 11:29 AM
Tazirai - All criticizes constructive, is validates... Thanks! :smile:
Psycwave - Thanks, I am happy that it liked.
Eggie - That good that liked… On working in the Marvel. I am trying, is one of my dreams.
Cqar - I have a very good friend in ink.

Thank you very much to all… An excellent week for all.

Peace!

cgar
04-08-2009, 06:52 AM
So I asked Mike Carey some questions and he delievered. About Psylocke and the new direction.


Mike Carey Hi Chris. Same question came up in this week's X-Position on CBR, so see my answer there. :) Basically, I'm going to bring her in when I can make it seem natural. The announcement should come any day now. I hope. It has to be before the solicits for #226, anyway, because the cover is kind of a give-away...