Chuck Dixon.. the ultimate Fanboy/girl writer?

[K-DoG7p7]

seriously..
Ive read some spoilers (hate doing that actually.. but people where screaming them)

and wow.. and all in one week.. hell.. he even brought back Camorouge..

talk about granting fanrequests :P

[Alan Lynch]

The honour goes to whomever brings back Maggott.

[KenK]

Yeah, I'm loving Chuck Dixon right now. Robin's a fun read again! Girl troubles in both aspects of his life, Ives is back, and may have a problem that requires a support group, and

SPOILER'S ALIVE!!! YESSSS!!!!

[Alan Lynch]

Yeah, I'm loving Chuck Dixon right now. Robin's a fun read again! Girl troubles in both aspects of his life, Ives is back, and may have a problem that requires a support group, and

SPOILER'S ALIVE!!! YESSSS!!!!
Really? I missed this completely. Cool.

[scout1279]

The honour goes to whomever brings back Maggott.
There are people who want to bring back Maggott?

I actually read an interview recently with one of the X-writers where he talked about wanting to use Maggott, but I can't remember who. How did that character not lose his powers on M-Day.


With regard to Chuck Dixon bringing back a certain character, I remember reading that he was pretty unhappy with what was done there, so I'm not surprised he's trying to fix it now that he's back.

[Alan Lynch]

There are people who want to bring back Maggott?

I actually read an interview recently with one of the X-writers where he talked about wanting to use Maggott, but I can't remember who. How did that character not lose his powers on M-Day.
Shit yeah, I thought he was a great concept. His accent always ended up written funny, but his powers were genuinely original and I liked him pretty much everytime I read him. I'd happily see him brought back.

Of course, the reason he didn't lose his powers on M-Day is because Frank Tieri had him killed in Neverland during Weapon X.

[TCJohnson]

With some of his anti-gay comments, he is not all that popular down here.

The good news is he is keeping it out of the comic books. I have been enjoying outsiders.

[K-DoG7p7]

With some of his anti-gay comments, he is not all that popular down here.

The good news is he is keeping it out of the comic books. I have been enjoying outsiders.
What anti gay comments? he once said he didn't like it that a character sexuality was brought up in comics.. and didn't was sex in comics at all..

Apparently he still thinks he is writing Kids Comics :P

[JohnPopa]

Honestly, I think the return's a swerve. It comes off TOO MUCH like he's 'giving the fans what they want.' And that's not always a good story, the good story is letting people THINK they're getting what they want and then pulling the rug out from under them. I think he'd be being less obvious about it, if it were actually the character in question.

[Nick Soapdish]

Honestly, I think the return's a swerve. It comes off TOO MUCH like he's 'giving the fans what they want.' And that's not always a good story, the good story is letting people THINK they're getting what they want and then pulling the rug out from under them. I think he'd be being less obvious about it, if it were actually the character in question.

I have the same feeling, but I want it to be real.

Maybe the being obvious about it part is how it's a swerve because it seems so obvious that it couldn't be that and so it is. That doesn't usually work so well.

[Michael P]

Yeah, I'm loving Chuck Dixon right now. Robin's a fun read again! Girl troubles in both aspects of his life, Ives is back, and may have a problem that requires a support group, and

SPOILER'S ALIVE!!! YESSSS!!!!

Is it really her, though? Anyone can wear a costume.

[Kevinroc]

Is it really her, though? Anyone can wear a costume.

http://community.livejournal.com/scans_daily/5195988.html#cutid1

That is about all we know right now...

[Michael P]

http://community.livejournal.com/scans_daily/5195988.html#cutid1

That is about all we know right now...

Ha. If it's a misdirection, I think I know exactly who it's going to be.

[Jeff Brady]

Ha. If it's a misdirection, I think I know exactly who it's going to be.

Arrowette or Secret?

[Astonishing X-Fan]

I got the impression in Gotham Underground that it's going to be someone different under the mask.

[TCJohnson]

There is also the theory that more than one person is being Spoiler.

[Sarah Beach]

Chuck is one writer who can pull off a surprise twist on me. Often - just because I'm a storyteller too - I can see some twists coming. But Chuck - he can surprise me.

So, much as I want Steph's return (and have even come up with a good way to make it happen), I'm not going to commit to the proposition that that's what he's doing.

On that topic: I was tempted a the DC panels at Wizard World LA to call out a question about Stephanie Brown -- just to razz Dan DiDio. But I didn't. But it really was tempting.

[K-DoG7p7]

Chuck is one writer who can pull off a surprise twist on me. Often - just because I'm a storyteller too - I can see some twists coming. But Chuck - he can surprise me.

So, much as I want Steph's return (and have even come up with a good way to make it happen), I'm not going to commit to the proposition that that's what he's doing.

On that topic: I was tempted a the DC panels at Wizard World LA to call out a question about Stephanie Brown -- just to razz Dan DiDio. But I didn't. But it really was tempting.

you do know Dan tried to stop the murder of Steph?
it happened his first month "in office" :P but it was to late to stop it or something..

[Shazam69]

With some of his anti-gay comments, he is not all that popular down here.

The good news is he is keeping it out of the comic books. I have been enjoying outsiders.

Could someone tell Judd Winick to do the same?

Mike

[KenK]

It'd be one thing if we had just seen The Spoiler with her mask on the whole time. Are we supposed to assume the chick unmasking is just another blonde who knows Robin is Tim Drake?

[siuntres]

Chuck is the man. He can write great stories in virtualy any genre.

I love talking to him at cons and on my podcast.

He and Van Sciver are two guys who I completly disagree with politically, but love to talk to them, and read their books.

[Chris Hansbrough]

I never thought I would ever say this about a book written by chuck....especially since I normally start boiling with anger when I think about it....but god damn he is wrting the best green arrw f anyone right now...yeah I said it....normally when I think chuck dixon and ollie I get pissed off with his horrid shit take on the character from years back....but I gave it a chance and so far.....he's actually doing pretty damn good with the character and that's gonna keep me buying the boo as it's been a great read...

[Michael P]

Arrowette or Secret?

Greta, I hope. Cissie getting back into any sort of costume would be a major no-no.

It wouldn't fucking hurt to actually see her every now and then, though. That's one of the things that pissed me off about 52. Hmmm, Cassie Sandsmark's boyfriend just died saving the universe. Who can she turn to? Her mother? Her best friend? No, let's have her join a fucking cult.

[K-DoG7p7]

Greta, I hope. Cissie getting back into any sort of costume would be a major no-no..
So even the medic costume she had was a bad move?


(also she recently put on her arrowette costume again..)

[Michael P]

So even the medic costume she had was a bad move?

That wasn't a costume, it was a uniform. She was serving her country in a time of war. And she had awesome hair.


(also she recently put on her arrowette costume again..)

Aw, Christ, don't tell me that...

Where?

[K-DoG7p7]

That wasn't a costume, it was a uniform. She was serving her country in a time of war. And she had awesome hair.



Aw, Christ, don't tell me that...

Where?
Wonder Girl mini series.. just ended..
she did it to save Cassie's mother from the Female Furies

[Michael P]

Wonder Girl mini series.. just ended..
she did it to save Cassie's mother from the Female Furies

...

Was there at least absolutely no other way, and she really agonized over the decision? I mean, the whole reason she quit in the first place is because she almost killed a guy.

[K-DoG7p7]

Nope.. she was kinda.. YAY! lets do that again!

Also.. dont forget that in the teen titans special she wanted to help Wonder Girl.. but Cassie said no..

[Michael P]

Nope.. she was kinda.. YAY! lets do that again!

Also.. dont forget that in the teen titans special she wanted to help Wonder Girl.. but Cassie said no..

If he hadn't lost all the weight, Peter David would be rolling in his grave.

[K-DoG7p7]

weight? what?

[Michael P]

weight? what?

He went on a diet a couple years ago. Looks like a whole new man. And good for him.

[Sarah Beach]

PAD last weekend at Wizard World LA ----

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z156/scribblerworks/Comic%20Conventions/P3150135.jpg

He was very entertaining.

[TCJohnson]

Holy Crap, that guy lost some SERIOUS weight!

http://www.trektoday.com/images/news/shoreleave3big.jpg

[KPhoebe]

What anti gay comments? he once said he didn't like it that a character sexuality was brought up in comics.. and didn't was sex in comics at all..

Apparently he still thinks he is writing Kids Comics :P

Whatever he says, he is obviously okay writing *straight* sexuality into his comics. (Even if it's straight sexuality where a man starts kissing his father's rapist.)

Keeping all representations of sexuality out of comics would be extremely weird - sexuality, whether they're in an active relationship or not, is part of most people's lives. Generally, when people say "I think sex should be kept out of comics!" they don't object to dialogue where someone says "Oh, gosh, I wish I had a boyfriend!" - as long as that character is female.

[Sarah Beach]

Whatever he says, he is obviously okay writing *straight* sexuality into his comics. (Even if it's straight sexuality where a man starts kissing his father's rapist.)

Keeping all representations of sexuality out of comics would be extremely weird - sexuality, whether they're in an active relationship or not, is part of most people's lives. Generally, when people say "I think sex should be kept out of comics!" they don't object to dialogue where someone says "Oh, gosh, I wish I had a boyfriend!" - as long as that character is female.

You know what? Even THAT was not what was at issue regarding the whole kaffuffle that people constantly raise a stink about.

It had to do with sexualizing (and NOT the "orientation" so much) a character that had been kid-friendly when HE was young, which he would have liked to share with his young boys. He didn't think the changes made to the character were such that the book would remain appropriate for his kids at the age they were THEN. That's it. Period.

[K-DoG7p7]

Also.. he hasent been writing Grace and thunder like you would think a Homofobe would write 2 gay characters

[bfrank]

Could someone tell Judd Winick to do the same?

Mike

What anti-gay comments has he made?

And who cares about the spoiler when Ralph and Sue are back?

Wish I was picking that book up:(

[Pink Bat Maxine]

You know what? Even THAT was not what was at issue regarding the whole kaffuffle that people constantly raise a stink about.

It had to do with sexualizing (and NOT the "orientation" so much) a character that had been kid-friendly when HE was young, which he would have liked to share with his young boys. He didn't think the changes made to the character were such that the book would remain appropriate for his kids at the age they were THEN. That's it. Period.

Good fucking lord, are we on this again?

Read:

http://www.gayleague.com/forums/display.php?id=188

Wend you way through this thread (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=198049&highlight=batman+outsiders) that Chuck himself contributed to.

A Chuck Dixon quote:

"I don't want to expect to be able to shield my kids from the subject of homosexuality as the media seems intent on bringing into my home and nothing short of cutting the electricity and boarding the windows will stop it. But I DON'T want my kids reading about it in comics."

Draw your own conclusions, either way. People will always disagree here. Me, I think his words say it all.

I'd say more, but I'm off to board my windows, cut my electricity, and buy anti-homosexual shields to protect the children from that darn intent media.

[Michael P]

You know what? Even THAT was not what was at issue regarding the whole kaffuffle that people constantly raise a stink about.

It had to do with sexualizing (and NOT the "orientation" so much) a character that had been kid-friendly when HE was young, which he would have liked to share with his young boys. He didn't think the changes made to the character were such that the book would remain appropriate for his kids at the age they were THEN. That's it. Period.

Except the character in question (Green Lantern's friend Terry) hadn't been around when he was young. Nor, for that matter, had the guy currently calling himself Green Lantern, who had already been "sexualized" by virtue of having had three steady girlfriends he talked about sex with and kissed passionately on-panel, and one of whom was murdered, chopped up, and stuffed in his refrigerator. (A thing, I might add, very few people complained about being "shoehorned" into their comics at the time.)

[JeffreyWKramer]

The comments he's made re: homosexuality make me suspect I probably wouldn't like Chuck Dixon much as a person, but he's a pretty dependable comics writer. Not top of the list, ala Morrison or Moore or BKV or Gaiman, but solidly B+ with the occasional A and very few efforts that fall below C. (His RICHARD DRAGON relaunch was downright awful, though).

Also, a) I've never seen Dixon's rather backwards perspective regarding homosexuality to intrude on his writing, and b) his attitude strikes me as more a case of culturally-derived ignorant prejudice than outright hatred of/contempt for gays. That's not to say his being ignorant and prejudiced regarding gays is a good thing, mind you, but if someone wants an example of a hatefully homophobic writer, they'd be better off focusing on Orson Scott Card than on Chuck Dixon. Meanwhile, so long as he keeps his bias out of his comics, I'd much rather read the pretty-good writing of Chuck Dixon than the gay-friendly-but-mostly-dreadful writing of someone like Judd Winick.

[Erik Burnham]

Except the character in question (Green Lantern's friend Terry) hadn't been around when he was young.

But the Rawhide Kid was - and he was the character in question. GL sitch was in regard to bashing audience over the head with a point in a superhero book. Which, depending on the writer, can go over fine or be a polarizing annoyance. Guess which this was? (;

[Sarah Beach]

Except the character in question (Green Lantern's friend Terry) hadn't been around when he was young. Nor, for that matter, had the guy currently calling himself Green Lantern, who had already been "sexualized" by virtue of having had three steady girlfriends he talked about sex with and kissed passionately on-panel, and one of whom was murdered, chopped up, and stuffed in his refrigerator. (A thing, I might add, very few people complained about being "shoehorned" into their comics at the time.)

Sorry, but no. The character in question (that is, where the bruhaha began) was NOT Terry.

It was the Rawhid Kid from Marvel.

Period.

Trust me. I know. I was there. I've been his board moderator for YEARS, plus he's a friend. The issue has been pushed WAY out of proportion, and seems it always will be.

Edit to add: Yeah, should read to the end before commenting. :) Erik beat me to it.