Captain America #36 *Spoilers*

[seeso]

Wow, what a great issue.

We start out in the Senate building, in the middle of a fight between Bucky Cap and the new Serpent Squad. Bucky Cap does some mighty fine shield throwing and takes everyone out but Crossbones.

The Crossbones fight was awesome. Bucky gets beat down, but keeps coming. Crossbones throws him out a window and he lands on Widow's flying car. Bucky shoots Crossbones a few times from the hood of the car and takes him out.

He goes back down to the street to try to talk some sense into the rioters, but has no luck. It's going to take a lot more than a costume and a commanding voice to get the people to respect him as Captain America.

King Cobra and Sin escape in a copter and give a sit-rep to Skull and Faustus, telling them that a new Captain America has arrived. The Red Skull laughs. He knows who it is.

Meanwhile, the Senator escapes and footage is doctored to make it look like the Serpent Squad were there to kill him, but was saved. Tony Stark gets a call from the Vice President, asking him what he knows about this new Captain America. Tony denies everything.

We cut to Bucky's place, and Widow fills him in on the aftermath. S.H.I.E.L.D. has lost credibility, but Tony has cut through the red tape and is able to get back to business. But with all that's happened, a closer eye will be kept on S.H.I.E.L.D. agents. That means no more canoodling between Natasha and Bucky.

Bucky's upset, his memories of his time spent with her were the only good memories that he had of his time in Russia. He tells her this, and Natasha plants one on his lips. It seems she digs him too. We see Bucky smile for the first time. Awesome panel. :D

The last two pages contain the big spoilers, so consider yourself warned...

We cut to Sharon, who's in the bowels of Arnim Zola's lair, arguing with the voice in her head again. She seems to win the argument, and resolves to escape. She's trying to find a secret exit when she comes upon what seems to be the body of Steve Rogers in some kind of red liquid-filled stasis chamber.

Her last words are, "Steve...?"

[CMBMOOL]

Ahh snap, Bucky a Player and here comes the CLONE SAGA, for Cap fans all in one issue. :D

[Toboe]

Great fight with Crossbones, you can really see Bucky's determination there. Too bad it doesn't work that well for him as an icon for the people, but now that he's gone public it's gonna be a blast.

I was really enjoying his relationship to the Black Widow, even she won't be around so often now I hope it keeps going on.

The last page was a real shocker. I thought the one on the cover for issue #39 was gonna be the Cap from the Invaders or a skrull, but now it seems like they're producing a clone or something... or is it Steve's real body? Namor's no longer on the oceans, after all. As long we don't get a repeat of Clor....

[Kid Kamikaze10]

Great fight with Crossbones, you can really see Bucky's determination there. Too bad it doesn't work that well for him as an icon for the people, but now that he's gone public it's gonna be a blast.

I was really enjoying his relationship to the Black Widow, even she won't be around so often now I hope it keeps going on.

The last page was a real shocker. I thought the one on the cover for issue #39 was gonna be the Cap from the Invaders or a skrull, but now it seems like they're producing a clone or something... or is it Steve's real body? Namor's no longer on the oceans, after all. As long we don't get a repeat of Clor....

This is some old-school Red Skull tactics. Remember what Red Skull's current weakness is? Being in the body Lukin.

How can he fix that? Cloned body. Who does he love using as a template for a clone body? Steve Rogers.

This book is awesome, and it'll only get better!

[drwho]

Great action issue. I don't have any complaints just wonder where they are going with this whole cap daughter thing.

[bjtrdff]

Cloned body that Cap's mind will eventually be transferred into?

[worstblogever]

Before anybody gets on their high horse about clones... remember, that might just be a time-displaced Steve Rogers in statis for study.

Red Skull still lifted a time machine for some unknown reason, everybody. Remember that. There's a myriad of combinations of genetic cloning, time displacement, and brainwashing that the Red Skull, Faustus, and Arnim Zola might have planned. No point in speculating until we know more.

Regardless, nice review Seeso, and I really enjoyed the action in the issue, and Bucky still having to grow into every aspect of being Captain America.

Peace.

[jackolover]

This book just keeps on surprising.

Bucky being a diplomat?
Steve Rogers being cloned? (We don't know that yet, but the mind transfer from the Skrull seems most likely)
Crossbones getting shot by Cap? Now that's dirty pool.

How can Arnim Zola let Carter wander around in his factory? It doesn't make sense. Here, Zola just tells Skrull, Carter is pregnant, and Sharon is left alone? I thought Zola made artificial men, not clones. Maybe Zolas Steve Rogers is only a replica.

As for Bucky. What got it into his head that he could BE Captain America, lecturing crowds? He's never done that before, and he wants to start now? In the middle of some US crisis? Well, he tried, and it didn't work. It's just not Buckys style. He is black ops, so leave the propaganda to someone else. He must have had a delusions of grandier moment.

[Inhumanoid]

This was a great issue. Not only is there great action but Bru really illustrates the diffrences between Steve and Bucky with the shooting, stabbing, and inability to get through the crowd.

I bet "Steve" is a clone though. First there was Clor and now there's AMOR.

My only complaint, well not so much a complaint as an inquiry, is why is Bucky kicking so much when he's got a robotic arm to lay the smackdown with?

[CaptainCanada]

How can Arnim Zola let Carter wander around in his factory?
As far as they know, she's totally subservient to them.

As for Bucky. What got it into his head that he could BE Captain America, lecturing crowds? He's never done that before, and he wants to start now? In the middle of some US crisis?
Isn't the middle of a crisis a fairly realistic occasion for trying to calm people down, given all the rioting?

Another good issue; nice to have Mike Perkins back one more time on art. I imagine "Steve" is a clone or whatever, since that's Zola's big specialty.

[PastePotPete]

This was a great issue. Not only is there great action but Bru really illustrates the diffrences between Steve and Bucky with the shooting, stabbing, and inability to get through the crowd.

I bet "Steve" is a clone though. First there was Clor and now there's AMOR.



AMOR? Don't you mean Claptain Clomerica?

Great issue. Brubaker writes great fight scenes. The Crossbones tussle showcased the fighting style of the new Captain America really well. Dirty pool? Hell yeah! I loved it when he just fired at Crossbones from the hood of the hovercar!

Favorite moment though was when Bucky walked away dejectedly as the Blackwater style security agents pummeled protesters.

[XPac]

Hmmm... I guess Namors vow to keep Caps body undisturbed didn't pan out. Though he's been busy lately, so I guess that's understandable.

[ultramandingo]

...........so scary skull mask beats robot arm ?!? or does crossbone have somekinda super hitting powers?

[Ed Brubaker]

Here's a link to a short Q and A I did today about the ending:

http://www.wizarduniverse.com/031908brucapreveal.html

And really, Bucky did okay in that fight considering he'd just taken two bullets to the back and ribs. You try that sometime and see how you lift your arms, cybernetic or not. :rolleyes:

[drwho]

The only thing about the interview is I doubt there are many completely up to date with all things Captain America readers because in the past this book wasn't necessarily worth reading at times so thats why you are seeing Skrulls and clone tie in predictions. Interesting stuff. i personally don't have a clue what the outcome will be which is great.

[Kid Kamikaze10]

Here's a link to a short Q and A I did today about the ending:

http://www.wizarduniverse.com/031908brucapreveal.html

And really, Bucky did okay in that fight considering he'd just taken two bullets to the back and ribs. You try that sometime and see how you lift your arms, cybernetic or not. :rolleyes:

Holy f**k...

So, it's not a clone, and it's not a skrull... And the Steve Rogers we saw in issue 26 might not even be Steve...

Um... I'm gonna have to re-analyze these issues... Maybe this have to do with the whole time-traveling thing?

[CMBMOOL]

Holy f**k...

So, it's not a clone, and it's not a skrull... And the Steve Rogers we saw in issue 26 might not even be Steve...

Um... I'm gonna have to re-analyze these issues... Maybe this have to do with the whole time-traveling thing?

So if the Steve in #26 isn't Steve, then THe SKull is a genius because he was able to fool Iron "The Futurist" Man. :p

Man, is Brubaker good or what ?

[Ed Brubaker]

Who said the Steve in 26 isn't Steve?

That's not what I said.

[drwho]

Perhaps they used the time travel technology to steal steve's body right before he got shot and replaced him. But that just doesnt seem like something I would think Red Skull would do. Unless he wants to make Steve his slave with big time brainwashing, or maybe stick his mind in Steve's body. Just seems weird. Of course it would be interesting seeing Captain A being forced to run around with Skull in his head with him for a few stories. Anyway definitely looking forward to next issue. Revelations seem to be coming a lot sooner than I was expecting.

[Kid Kamikaze10]

Who said the Steve in 26 isn't Steve?

That's not what I said.

I did say "might".

:D

[SnakeEater]

i bought the actually dead issue and two after that and was completely lost so decided to dro the title until i heard about bucky being the new cap so i bought 35 and was beyond lost. i bought 34...still lost so i decided ot search the net for the omnibus and i found it, should be coming in soon.
I hunted down all the issues between 25-34 and now its all sitting there, waiting for one big sitting...

from what i saw today and what i read when i attempted to get into cap, skull is screwing with time tech. We also know Faustus is screwing with shield agents. Now we see a nother cap and its been confirmed that this isnt a tie in to another series so...

IM ASSUMING that either skull went back in time and stole the body with his shields shmoes. if not that then he had already used his shield shmoes to sqitch the body somewhere between ish 25 and 26. as for the time crap, who knows but its definitely very important at this point

[ultramandingo]

And really, Bucky did okay in that fight considering he'd just taken two bullets to the back and ribs. You try that sometime and see how you lift your arms, cybernetic or not. :rolleyes:

.....never stoped major steve austin. but i guess he never messed with a lucha libre knock off

[Toboe]

Here's a link to a short Q and A I did today about the ending:

http://www.wizarduniverse.com/031908brucapreveal.html

And really, Bucky did okay in that fight considering he'd just taken two bullets to the back and ribs. You try that sometime and see how you lift your arms, cybernetic or not. :rolleyes:

Now that interview has got me intrigued. I had totally forgotten about the Skull's time machine and all. And since Namor is no longer in position to take care of Steve's body, it might even be him. I can't wait for the next issue.

But it seems that with Secret Invasion and the Invaders appearance, we'll get like four Captain America going around. :p

I wouldn’t stop in the middle of this epic story to do some kind of stunt tie-in for someone else’s project at this point. We’re doing great sales wise; I don’t need to do that sort of thing for one, and I’ve been pretty much told I can do whatever the hell I want on this book now.

I <3 Brubaker

[philly]

I have to say that Captain America right now is probably one of the best reads out there and i personally hope that Steve Rogers remains dead. I think Bucky will be a great permanent replacement if that's the intention of the writer and i would like to follow him as he not only rediscovers his place in the world but redefine who is Captain America for today's culture. Not only would he have the same core values as Steve but let him bring a sense of skeptic as well and give him a sense of looking into the dirty business of politics and today's society while having him find the good in it as well as the learning about the lives of people who participate in it.

Anyway i love the book and i hope they keep up the good work.:)

[seeso]

Awesome to see Brubaker chime in.

I have been reading the book since issue 1 and I can't figure out it that's Steve or not.

Okay, it's not a Skrull, it's not a clone, and it's not tied to Ross' project.

That doesn't leave a whole hell of a lot of possibilities. Maybe the body is really Steve Rogers. Maybe Zola grabbed it while Namor was busy dealing with his own crap and bioengineered it back to physical health.

This still means he's brain dead, though.

[CaptainCanada]

It probably relates to that time machine Zola's been working on.

[bjtrdff]

Definitely a robot.

Which may or may not be working for the CIA.

[Jeff-X]

Yeah, there's the time travel thing... but don't forget, they never said what happened to Red Skull's old cloned body of Steve.

[Brian M.]

I'll tell the scene I liked the most in this book, it was when Bucky tried to calm the crowd. It was great to see that just b/c he's wearing the suit, b/c he has the shield he doesn't garner the same respect Cap does. He hasn't yet really EARNED the right to call himself Captain America. He maybe the best choice, but he still has so much to accomplish before they look at him like they did Steve.

[Omega Alpha]

This book is awesome. I bet you didn't know that, so I'm telling you now.

Best thing about this issue was Bucky trying to calm the crowd, but failing. He's still trying be Cap. America, but not being totally successful at the moment. His struggle to fit the mantle should be interesting.

[jackolover]

I'll tell you the scene I liked the most in this book, it was when Bucky tried to calm the crowd. It was great to see that just b/c he's wearing the suit, b/c he has the shield he doesn't garner the same respect Cap does. He hasn't yet really EARNED the right to call himself Captain America. He maybe the best choice, but he still has so much to accomplish before they look at him like they did Steve.

It was good to see him try, in any case. It opened my eyes to the fact that Bucky doesn't take the suit lightly, and wants to make it happen like Cap would. It makes me wonder what it was like for Steve in those early days as Cap, whether Steve got the cold shoulder in the beginning, as well. Bucky may just be skating along, and picking up the game as it goes along. I think you have to practice at being Cap, but the most thorough way to do it, is to get people out of jams, right in front of them. If Cap had smacked down the security guys and saved the crowd from getting rubber bullets shot at them, then maybe they would have sat up and listened.

[Pyro]

I feel like a lot of the story so far has been a bit predictable, like Bucky becoming the new Cap, him trying to inspire the public this issue and failing... I mean to say, there have been a lot of beats that I would expect from a story like this. Not that they aren't well done, they are, I'm just saying it's not very surprising. Even the cliffhanger was somewhat predictable, given the hints around what Zola and Red Skull could possibly be doing. Still, it's great to watch unfold.

I can see how Black Widow's relationship with Bucky works, but I think I prefer her and Daredevil together. She just seems more feisty with him. I wonder who she'll gravitate towards in the future (I guess it kind of depends on how long Matt stays married).

Did anyone else find the fight scene between Crossbones and Bucky kind of hard to follow? I mean, I didn't understand that Crossbones was stabbed until he yelled out, "I've been stabbed!" And I had to go back to realize that panel was a close up of his mask, which was weird. Also, in one panel, Black Widow is flying high above DC in her car saying she's right on top of him--there is no nearby building higher than her, then out of nowhere, Bucky falls out of a window down to her. I would have appreciated some establishment of where Bucky was falling from. Even when Bucky was fighting the Serpent Squad I don't think the action flowed, which is strange because I've never had that complaint about Butch Guice's art before. Maybe he was rushing. I don't know.

[DeadXMan]

I don't think That Steve is a clone
I think it's The Commie Smasher Cap from the fifties

And I'm loving the Gun/Shield combo.

everyone looking at the shield ricochet around they fail to see the bullet coming stright at them

:D

[LungerTony]

Great issue. Crazy cliffhaner!
New Cap is awesome. I like.

The fight between Cap and the Serpent Squad and Crossbones was really good.
It's cool that Cap shoots people and stabs them and stuff. It's real. Shield plus gun combo is amazingly effective...but sooner or later someone he busts a cap in needs to die.
I kind hoped Crossbones would die...simply because that would be an awesome death...he just beat the crap out of Cap. Best death a turd like him can hope for.

The Cap/Widow relationship is awesome. Early in the pages I thoguht that there was potential between the two by the way the talked to each other...and then I got to the second part and BAM.
I can only call the great writing.

Anyway! I love Captain America. It's so awesome...*sigh*

[Lunal]

The only thing I can think of is that Red Skull's plan is to pit his version of Captain America against the new Captain America. Thats why he said the line "its almost toooo perfect." You know it has to do with what Sharon is about to discover next issue. New, gritty, gun-toting, knife-wielding Captain America versus old school Cap being mind-controlled by the Red Skull (or being the Red Skull, yikes!).

My favorite book this week by a long nose. I even liked the little bit of sexual tension at the end with Natasha and am sad to see that she is going to have to distance herself.

[Captain Librarian]

I don't think That Steve is a clone
I think it's The Commie Smasher Cap from the fifties

And I'm loving the Gun/Shield combo.

everyone looking at the shield ricochet around they fail to see the bullet coming stright at them

:D
I'm with this guy.

Though if the Skull is looking for a new body, a cloned Cap makes sense.

[CyberHubbs]

It might be Steve's son from the future. The super-soldier serum deteriorated after Steve died, so Skull used his time machine to go into the future, get his offspring, and extract it from a live specimen.

[worstblogever]

It might be Steve's son from the future. The super-soldier serum deteriorated after Steve died, so Skull used his time machine to go into the future, get his offspring, and extract it from a live specimen.

Didn't the Skull and Zola say that Sharon is pregnant with a girl, though?

Sex changes aside...

[Dr. Chaos]

Hmmm... I guess Namors vow to keep Caps body undisturbed didn't pan out.
Actually, the phrase you're looking for here is "Marvel's anti-clone policy didn't work out". ;)

Should be interesting to see how The Skull's version of Steve Rogers stands against Bucky, it should be a big test for him.

[CyberHubbs]

Didn't the Skull and Zola say that Sharon is pregnant with a girl, though?

Sex changes aside...

When did they say that? Totally missed it.

[worstblogever]

When did they say that? Totally missed it.

I thought it was during the scene when the Red Skull finds out about the new Cap, Zola start telling him about it as he's finding out.

Don't have the issue with me at work, but I thought that's what he said.

[Dr. Chaos]

Hold on, I Just read the wiz interview.

Wait, so the guy on the cover isn't A/I, clone or Skrull Cap?

Goddammit, Brubaker, you and your masterful machinations breaking my thought process in half..

Well played.

[A-Man]

Great issue again. I'm really glad that Ed Brubaker decided (and was allowed) to keep this story self-contained. By stating that the guy on the cover of #39 is not a skrull, not a clone and not th Cap form the Invaders story, he just made things even more interesting - now we know there won't be any "forced" solutions.
Can't wait till the next issue! :D

[Billy T.]

Yeah, it's been a while since we've read anything in the book about the Doom-tech time-travel device. I seem to recall Doom saying it would only work once... Is that one-way or round-trip? As for BuCkap being able to quell the uprising, even in the aftermath of Steve's death, I'm not sure the public would be so quick to stand at attention when a Cap is barking at them - given the end of Civil War and all.

What we know:
-The "Steve Rogers" that Sharon saw in stasis is not a clone nor a Skrull.

What we don't know:
-Is the "Steve Rogers" that Sharon saw in stasis the same as the one she shot and killed?

If "Stasis Rogers" is not a clone, then the DNA of Sharon's unborn baby is irrelevant to him.

I'm almost in the camp of those saying that somehow, the Skull was able to replace Steve's corpse with a clone. So, while Zola was reanimating the real Steve, Stark was burying a clone at sea. Talk about skeletons in the closet, LOL!

[Kid Kamikaze10]

Okay, I'm re-reading issue 25, and for some reason, Steve's dialogue sounds extremely weird right now. I know last words have a way of going off on a tangent, but these last words sound very strange.

[Brian M.]

What if the one that was shot wasn't Steve?

What if Steve was switched out, the real Rogers has been captured by the corrupted SHIELD officers and switched out for the one that was shot? The body could have degraded b/c that's what the replicated verison does when it dies? It could have been a clone or something else...

Killing that Rogers would give the Skull free reigh to do w/ the real Rogers as he wants since everyone believes him to be dead. The inner monologue in #25 could have been the real Steve, just not Steve at the courthouse.

It's a longshot theory but hey, it's what the internet is for.

[worstblogever]

What if the one that was shot wasn't Steve?

What if Steve was switched out, the real Rogers has been captured by the corrupted SHIELD officers and switched out for the one that was shot? The body could have degraded b/c of it that's what the replicated verison does when it dyes? It could have been a clone or something else...

Killing that Rogers would give the Skull free reigh to do w/ the real Rogers as he wants since everyone believes him to be dead. The inner monologue in #25 could have been the real Steve, just not Steve at the courthouse.

It's a longshot theory but hey, it's what the internet is for.

Read the Captain Marvel #4 thread, and my last post in it. Your theory sounds much less far-fetched.

[Brian M.]

Read the Captain Marvel #4 thread, and my last post in it. Your theory sounds much less far-fetched.

Ah I see we were kinda thinking along the same lines. I figure it would be so easy for them to switch Cap since a ton of the SHIELD operatives were already under control of the Red Skull. We saw that it was Tony or any Avenger who escorted Steve it was regular SHIELD operatives. Who knows, it would be a twist to see Bucky being the one trying to break the mind control on Steve...since you know Steve tried the same thing on Bucky early in this series. Cool little role reversal.

[Weapon Ick]

So it's not a skrull and it's not a clone. hmmmm... I got it! It's one of Dan Slott's Earth-B tourists from She-Hulk! j/k

Brubaker said that there are hints through out the series starting at issue #1. I just started re-reading issue 1 and within the first pages Skull and Lukin are examining a device that opens small windows into the negative zone. So maybe it's a possibility that that's what Sharon is looking at?

[TotalWorldDomination]

As others have said it's the Grand Director, the "Commie-Smasher" Cap from the 50's that was later brainwashed into becoming a Nazi. It fits perfectly.

1) he is physicaly identical to steve rodgers due to the FBI plastic surgury.
2) The goverment has a penchant for putting him in Suspended animation.
3) Brubaker brought him up already during his run when Bucky went after Jack Monroe.
4) Dr. Faustus was the one responsible for finding him, bringing him out of suspended animation and brainwashing him into being a Nazi last time. Could he be doing it again?
5) it fits Bru's clue of "ny person who’s been a close reader of Captain America for years and years will know exactly what’s going on by the end of the next issue. There’s definitely Easter eggs for long-term readers." Long term readers are the ONLY people that remember the Grand Director.
6) They can say they are bringing Steve Rodgers back... but it's not the original Steve Rodgers (The GD legaly changed his name, I can't remember if we ever even learned his original name).

[Kid Kamikaze10]

As others have said it's the Grand Director, the "Commie-Smasher" Cap from the 50's that was later brainwashed into becoming a Nazi. It fits perfectly.

1) he is physicaly identical to steve rodgers due to the FBI plastic surgury.
2) The goverment has a penchant for putting him in Suspended animation.
3) Brubaker brought him up already during his run when Bucky went after Jack Monroe.
4) Dr. Faustus was the one responsible for finding him, bringing him out of suspended animation and brainwashing him into being a Nazi last time. Could he be doing it again?
5) it fits Bru's clue of "ny person who’s been a close reader of Captain America for years and years will know exactly what’s going on by the end of the next issue. There’s definitely Easter eggs for long-term readers." Long term readers are the ONLY people that remember the Grand Director.
6) They can say they are bringing Steve Rodgers back... but it's not the original Steve Rodgers (The GD legaly changed his name, I can't remember if we ever even learned his original name).


If this theory isn't right, then I've run out of ideas myself. This was also the last one I could think of, but I'm worried that it has something to do with this volume (V5), instead of Volume 1, which is when the Grand Director was around.

[TotalWorldDomination]

If this theory isn't right, then I've run out of ideas myself. This was also the last one I could think of, but I'm worried that it has something to do with this volume (V5), instead of Volume 1, which is when the Grand Director was around.

As I point out, Bru has introduced the Grand Director in this volume during the issues that centered on Jack Monroe. I'll have to find the issue in question to see exactly how much Jack talks about the GD, but he definatly rehashes the fact that he looks just like Steve and was in suspended animation.

[Toboe]

I thought it was during the scene when the Red Skull finds out about the new Cap, Zola start telling him about it as he's finding out.

Don't have the issue with me at work, but I thought that's what he said.

I just checked it, and the Skull says "the girl, Roger's woman... it seems that she's --", so I think he was referring to Sharon Carter as the girl, not her child.

[Kid Kamikaze10]

As I point out, Bru has introduced the Grand Director in this volume during the issues that centered on Jack Monroe. I'll have to find the issue in question to see exactly how much Jack talks about the GD, but he definatly rehashes the fact that he looks just like Steve and was in suspended animation.

Oh, I remember that issue, but I mean, to most people, that was just a minor detail. (not to me of course, but people that haven't been following the title nearly as long)

But I agree with you definitely. (however, RS is gonna have to find a way to keep that guy on che... Nevermind, I forgot about Dr. Faustus. Dang, Red Skull brought his A-game this volume).

[CyberHubbs]

I just checked it, and the Skull says "the girl, Roger's woman... it seems that she's --", so I think he was referring to Sharon Carter as the girl, not her child.

I came in to mention this.

But I have to admit that the 'Grand Director' theory sounds like the most possible outcome. Good call, TWD.

[worstblogever]

I just checked it, and the Skull says "the girl, Roger's woman... it seems that she's --", so I think he was referring to Sharon Carter as the girl, not her child.

Cool. Thanks for the clarification. :)

[TotalWorldDomination]

Oh, I remember that issue, but I mean, to most people, that was just a minor detail. (not to me of course, but people that haven't been following the title nearly as long)

But I agree with you definitely. (however, RS is gonna have to find a way to keep that guy on che... Nevermind, I forgot about Dr. Faustus. Dang, Red Skull brought his A-game this volume).

The Red Skull did bring his A-Game. Looking back on it I'm shocked he's never pulled something like this before. I have no idea how New Cap and the gang are going to get out of this one...

[Leocomix]

I don't see why there is this assumption that it's not a clone. Brubaker doesn't say that. He just says that he's making his own story and that Secret Invasion and Avengers/Invaders don't play into it. So it's neither a Skrull nor Invaders Cap. The Easter egg for longtime readers can just be that the Skull already cloned once Rogers' body (that was 20 years ago). Now it is possible that with the time machine the Skull brought the 1950s Cap complete with his suspended animation tank from the past.

[Monty_Cristo]

What if the one that was shot wasn't Steve?

What if Steve was switched out, the real Rogers has been captured by the corrupted SHIELD officers and switched out for the one that was shot? The body could have degraded b/c that's what the replicated verison does when it dies? It could have been a clone or something else...

Killing that Rogers would give the Skull free reigh to do w/ the real Rogers as he wants since everyone believes him to be dead. The inner monologue in #25 could have been the real Steve, just not Steve at the courthouse.

It's a longshot theory but hey, it's what the internet is for.

Steve Rogers is dead. your theory is full of suck.

[Brian M.]

Steve Rogers is dead. your theory is full of suck.

Walk into traffic.

[DeadXMan]

I thought it was during the scene when the Red Skull finds out about the new Cap, Zola start telling him about it as he's finding out.

Don't have the issue with me at work, but I thought that's what he said.

no, she was refering to sin not Steve's kid

[DeadXMan]

Steve is as dead as Bucky.
;)

[Chino]

Awesome issue.

As for the whole "Steve" thing, I'm going with Steve Rogers stolen from the past with help from Dr. Doom for the Skull to implant his own mind into.

I do hope the real Steve stays dead. Though having both him and Bucky around would be kinda cool. I wonder if Bucky would use the Winter Soldier identity.

[killerbass]

It probably relates to that time machine Zola's been working on.

And remember in issue 23, when Red Skull was in Latveria working on some kind of deal with Dr. Doom...

(I bought one of the pages from Mike Perkins...)

--Tom

[killerbass]

Awesome issue.

As for the whole "Steve" thing, I'm going with Steve Rogers stolen from the past with help from Dr. Doom for the Skull to implant his own mind into.

I do hope the real Steve stays dead. Though having both him and Bucky around would be kinda cool. I wonder if Bucky would use the Winter Soldier identity.

What he said.

That'll teach me to read the whole thread before replying... :D

--Tom

[XPac]

As I point out, Bru has introduced the Grand Director in this volume during the issues that centered on Jack Monroe. I'll have to find the issue in question to see exactly how much Jack talks about the GD, but he definatly rehashes the fact that he looks just like Steve and was in suspended animation.

How much wiggle room is there to bring the Grand Director back? I never read the issue where he died, but in his wiki it says he committed suicide. Are the events of his death easy enough to retcon, or does this involve something a bit more complicated?

I suppose since Sharon came back, Grand Director isn't too shocking. They sort of died in the same story arc, if I'm not mistaken.

[Will.S]

Great issue.

I was pretty much waiting for Bucky to do the whole "speech in front of the crowd" thing and the results, while predictable, were fun to see play out nonetheless. I also enjoyed the whole Black Widow and Bucky team-up, it's a shame that they'll have to stay further apart due to the Red Skull's plans but Bucky's reaction to her kiss was great.

It was very nice to see the new Cap go up against traditional villains again, he'd been fighting a lot of fodder and goons so Crossbones, Sin, and the Serpent Squad was something I was really looking forward to. Cool to see Ed show Tony's official denial of the new Captain America thing, he didn't really have to write that scene because we all knew but that made things official.

As for the last page reveal, I was quite pleased to see that. I think Brian M's theory is pretty sound so I figure it'll be close to what he posted here. Art wise I almost couldn't tell where Jackson Guice's art began and Mike Perkins began so the transition was flawless.

I really a haven't been reading the books in back issues to pick up on the clues that Ed puts down, usually I read Captain America on a month to month basis and I don't have a big recollection of what happened all the way back to issue #1. I really should though so one of these days I'll have to dedicate a good chunk of time towards doing that, excellent stuff so far.

10/10

[StoneGold]

Ed, if you're still reading, I'm hoping there's something minor you feel OK with clearing up.

It seems like in every discussion, whether Internet or in person, someone figures that death and/or resurrection is going to hinge on whatever the next company-wide crossover is going to be. From the way that you are writing things, and the fact that you killed Cap off in your own book, instead of Millar doing it, I can only assume that however this ends up, whether resurrection or not, you will be writing it, because it's your baby.

I don't want you to spoil anything one way or the other, because I'd rather be surprised, but I'd like to know at least that, assuming you don't get in a hideous car wreck, or get caught in bed with Nancy Quesada or something, that you get to finish this baby out.

[StoneGold]

How much wiggle room is there to bring the Grand Director back? I never read the issue where he died, but in his wiki it says he committed suicide. Are the events of his death easy enough to retcon, or does this involve something a bit more complicated?

I suppose since Sharon came back, Grand Director isn't too shocking. They sort of died in the same story arc, if I'm not mistaken.

Faustus is back too. I'm just saying, because he was dead, and he killed both Sharon and the Grand Director.

[Will.S]

Ed, if you're still reading, I'm hoping there's something minor you feel OK with clearing up.

It seems like in every discussion, whether Internet or in person, someone figures that death and/or resurrection is going to hinge on whatever the next company-wide crossover is going to be. From the way that you are writing things, and the fact that you killed Cap off in your own book, instead of Millar doing it, I can only assume that however this ends up, whether resurrection or not, you will be writing it, because it's your baby.

I don't want you to spoil anything one way or the other, because I'd rather be surprised, but I'd like to know at least that, assuming you don't get in a hideous car wreck, or get caught in bed with Nancy Quesada or something, that you get to finish this baby out.
While I don't presume to talk for Ed, I have a really good feeling that he'll be writing the resurrection since he's kept most of the Cap stuff so insular. I don't even think that House of M or Civil War affected his book all that much regarding the fate of Cap himself.

[StoneGold]

While I don't presume to talk for Ed, I have a really good feeling that he'll be writing the resurrection since he's kept most of the Cap stuff so insular. I don't even think that House of M or Civil War affected his book all that much regarding the fate of Cap himself.

Same here. I'd just like to read it from him, just so the next time someone says Cap's a Skrull, I can say the resurrection is not happening in Secret Invasion, that it's Ed's baby. Which is what I have been saying, but it would be nice to be able to point to a quote.

[Inhumanoid]

If Cap isn't a Skrull or a Clone then there's only one possible explanation...Red Skull has captured the ghost of Captain America.

[worstblogever]

If Cap isn't a Skrull or a Clone then there's only one possible explanation...Red Skull has captured the ghost of Captain America.

So... Dr. Faustus, Red Skull, and Arnim Zola are the Ghostbusters?

[Inhumanoid]

So... Dr. Faustus, Red Skull, and Arnim Zola are the Ghostbusters?

They're more like that fat guy from BeetleJuice.

[jackolover]

The Red Skull did bring his A-Game. Looking back on it, I'm shocked he's never pulled something like this before. I have no idea how New Cap and the gang are going to get out of this one...

The way Red Skull behaves is very loose. Any setbacks just roll off his back, as insignificant. A thorough planner wouldn't take this attitude. I think the Red Skull doesn't really care about the outcome working or not. He is kinda nuts, after all. That's the thing that stands out about the Skulls plans. He may have got a long way on the track to his aims, but I doubt that Skull cares if they are realised or not. Cap attacks his White House invaders, and foils them? Who cares. Sharon has a baby? Who cares? Cap and Bucky foil the giant robot in London? Who cares? It is a very loose plan, and not dependant on whether it works, because the Skull is hidden in a body that can't be detected. He's free, and if his plans fail, he'll just disappear and do another one.

As to how Cap anf the gang get out of this, it will probably be by luck, and they won't know how it happened, but Skull will just fade into the background, and we will have.... I don't know what, at the end of it. One Cap? Two Caps? A Cap and Winter Soldier? Steve back, and Bucky dead?

[jackolover]

Awesome issue.

As for the whole "Steve" thing, I'm going with Steve Rogers stolen from the past with help from Dr. Doom for the Skull to implant his own mind into.

I do hope the real Steve stays dead. Though having both him and Bucky around would be kinda cool. I wonder if Bucky would use the Winter Soldier identity.

Doesn't any removal of people from the past alter 'now'? You can't take Cap from the past and expect Cap to have been found by the Avengers, when he isn't there anymore. Do you see what I mean? This has to be something that isn't a time removal, but something made here, now.

[XPac]

Doesn't any removal of people from the past alter 'now'? You can't take Cap from the past and expect Cap to have been found by the Avengers, when he isn't there anymore. Do you see what I mean? This has to be something that isn't a time removal, but something made here, now.

That's kind of what happened in the Crossing though.

[jackolover]

That's kind of what happened in the Crossing though.

Are you saying Marvel allow time removals with no affects in the future?

[Brian M.]

So... Dr. Faustus, Red Skull, and Arnim Zola are the Ghostbusters?

Which one is Bill Murray? I'd go w/ Dr. Faustus.

[XPac]

Are you saying Marvel allow time removals with no affects in the future?

With alternate time lines and such, it's a doable idea if a writer ever decided that's what he wanted. That's not to say I think it's a good idea. But it's not unheard of.

Again, we had Teen Tony from the Crossing. It was a lousy idea though.

[jackolover]

With alternate time lines and such, it's a doable idea if a writer ever decided that's what he wanted. That's not to say I think it's a good idea. But it's not unheard of.

Again, we had Teen Tony from the Crossing. It was a lousy idea though.

So the Skull could kidnap a Cap from an alternate timeline? I know Death in the Family was one of those alternate timeline derivatives, that makes no sense now, in the current timeline. Is that what you are proposing?

[XPac]

So the Skull could kidnap a Cap from an alternate timeline? I know Death in the Family was one of those alternate timeline derivatives, that makes no sense now, in the current timeline. Is that what you are proposing?

Believe me, I'm not proposing the idea.

But if they were to snag a Cap from the past permanently, they would probably need to say he's from an alternate timeline or something.

It's it not permenent then they could take Cap from our timeline the same way they snagged Captain Mar-Vell.

Heck, we already know that the Invaders are showing up so a past Cap is coming. Doubt he'll stick around though.

[TotalWorldDomination]

So... Dr. Faustus, Red Skull, and Arnim Zola are the Ghostbusters?

Heh, I just got an image of Zuel asking Red Skull if he was a god and him thinking for half a second and saying "yes. yes I am. But the fat guy with the beard is not."

[Capt Hunter]

This is what I dug up a while back on the Grand Director....

http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=200885

[Tobias Drake]

It's it not permenent then they could take Cap from our timeline the same way they snagged Captain Mar-Vell.

By having him be a Skrull?

[IronKing]

Red Skull in Cap's body? Ish 39 is giving me shivers.

[DeadXMan]

By having him be a Skrull?

I'm thinking the Old switch aroo happen with Mar

[Hi-Fi]

What an amazing issue this was. This book is probably the best Marvel book out there right now. I love how the plot keeps unfolding issue after issue.

Bucky is becoming one of my favorite characters ever. Loved his fight with Crossbones and his attempt to calm the crowd. He still have ways to go. The action was pretty fun.

Bru, don't keep Natasha away for too long! She has great chemistry with Bucky, and the kiss and his smile after that were two of the best moments from this issue.

And finally, poor Sharon. She has been suffering a lot. I hope she escapes this mental and physical hell soon.

[jackolover]

And finally, poor Sharon. She has been suffering a lot. I hope she escapes this mental and physical hell soon.

This mental and physical hell are an analogy of child birth. Giving up the independant life, killing off the lover, being manipulated by outside powers. Pregnancy means a lot of these things. You have to go through the hell to bring forth the something new.

[Lombardo!]

Hmmm... I guess Namors vow to keep Caps body undisturbed didn't pan out. Though he's been busy lately, so I guess that's understandable.

dont think that's *the* Steve Rogers - his body kinda shrivelled up weirdly after he died, an effect of the Super Soldier Serum, or something.

so maybe it's a clone, maybe he's 'time displaced'. whatever the case, i'll be reading

[Rolltideguy77]

Oh Lawd ya'll. I said it before and I will say it again Steve's return when it happens will IMO be tied back to the mini series 1602. Here's the Wiki excerpt for those not familiar. That's just my opinion, I could be totally off the mark.

The story takes place in the year 1602 in the Marvel Universe (Universe 616 according to Uatu). Many of the early superheroes have been born and bred in the era, which is about 400 years before their real time. When the characters come to realize that something is wrong with the universe, the heroes must solve the mystery behind their own existence, while dealing with intrigue at the courts of Elizabeth and James.
All over Europe, strange weather is provoking panic. Many believe the unnatural occurrences are the beginning of the Apocalypse. Dr. Stephen Strange, the court magician of Queen Elizabeth I, senses that there are unnatural forces at work. He also comes to learn that the secret treasure of the Knights Templar is being moved from Jerusalem to England; Elizabeth tells her head of intelligence, Sir Nicholas Fury, to bring the weapon to England safely. Fury in turn contracts Matthew Murdoch to rendezvous with the Templar guard and secure the weapon. On the road, Fury and his assistant, Peter Parquagh, are attacked by an assassin, who Fury disables and locks in the Tower of London.
Meanwhile, the ship "Virginia Maid" arrives in England from the New World, carrying the young Virginia Dare, the first child born in Roanoke colony, as well as her hulking Native American bodyguard Rojhaz. When a flying assassin tries to snatch Dare, Rojhaz quickly disables the killer, but Virginia has transformed into a white gryphon. Rojhaz subdues Virginia, and Strange bespells her to human form before Fury sees her transformed. She has strange shapeshifting powers, and Strange suspects she is the cause of the disastrous weather. Fury interrogates one of the assassins to learn who sent him. He learns that Otto von Doom, ruler of Latveria, is behind the attempted killings, but is too late to stop one of Doom's machines from killing Elizabeth.
James VI of Scotland lusts after the Queen's throne, and with Elizabeth's death will rule both England and Scotland. James is distrustful of "witchbreed" and collaborates with Spanish High Inquisitor Enrique to blame the witchbreed of England, headed by Carlos Javier, for Elizabeth's death. Fury, though unwilling to capture Carlos and his students, is forced to take the witchbreed to the Tower. Strange, Javier, and Fury meet in the Tower and discuss how to escape and save the world — escape will almost surely lead to them being branded traitors by James.
Strange has learned that the treasure of the Templars and its keeper, Donal, and Murdoch, have been betrayed and are now in the hands of Doom. Strange also learns that Doom has been holding captive four heroes from the ship Fantastick, including Fury's friend Sir Richard Reed. Knowing that James will never give him an army to march on Latveria, he conspires with the witchbreed, taking a ship levitated by Javier and his page John Grey across the continent.
Strange is confronted by the Watcher, who tells him that the strange events are due to an anomaly he calls the "Forerunner". The Forerunner is from the future and his presence in the past has disrupted reality to the point of impending annihilation of not only Strange's world but all other universes as well. The Watcher forces Stephen to enter a pact that will not allow him to repeat what he has learned for as long as he lives.
Fury, Javier and his witchbreed launch a successful attack on Count Doom's fortress. The Fantastick Four are freed, and Doom is horribly scarred by what he believes is the Templar's treasure; in fact, Donal's walking stick is the true treasure, and using it Donal becomes the Norse god Thor. Having nowhere else to go, the ship of fugitives heads for the New World.
In Spain, Enrique is betrayed as a witchbreed himself and is to be burned at the stake with his young acolytes, Petros and Sister Wanda. Enrique breaks their bonds and the witchbreed escape on a ship of their own, which seems bound for America as well.
Sir Stephen Strange is executed by James, and his head put on a pike. With his magic, his spirit can still communicate in a telepathic way. His wife Clea takes his head from the pike and sets off for America with Virginia and Rojhaz. Clea believes that Strange's suspicions were wrong; Virginia is not the Forerunner, it is her blond-haired, blue-eyed "Native American" companion Rojhaz.
In his time Rojhaz was Steve Rogers, a costumed crime fighter known as Captain America. After fighting against a future fascist government, Rogers was captured and put to death; instead of dying, he arrived in the present timeline. His presence has not only brought about a rift that will destroy the universe, but it also caused the heroes of the twentieth century to appear centuries earlier to counter the Forerunner's negative effects.
James sends his advisor David Banner and Fury's former apprentice Peter Parquagh to America with orders to kill Fury. Fury and company, meanwhile, arrive at the Roanoke colony, where they discover the rift that is tearing their universe apart. They also examine themselves and their motives.
Fury confronts the expedition led by Banner and kills all its members aside from him and Peter. In spite of this, Fury has almost lost the will to live: he failed to protect his Queen, he has been made a traitor to his country and all his wealth and property has been seized and taken over by James and his favourites. Donal turns to alcohol, devastated at the fact that he has brought about a god who, according to Donal's religion, should not even exist.
Javier, realizing that his enemy Enrique may be the key to manipulating the rift and thus saving the universe, captures him and his followers, but it is the former Inquisitor who dictates terms since they need him in order to repair the rift.
The final component needed to open the rift is lighting, which Thor provides. Rojhaz, however, refuses to go back through the rift and repair the damage. He hopes to build a better America from the beginning. Fury tricks Rojhaz, by playing on the trust that Rogers had for the original Nick Fury but then knocking Cap unconscious: "I am not he" he mutters, in reference to the Fury that Rogers knew.
Fury carries the body of Rogers back through the rift, thus going into the future himself. The rift and the universe restore themselves, meaning the destruction of the alternate timeline; however, Uatu the Watcher is granted a "pocket universe" by his colleagues in which the 1602 timeline remains intact, and where the powered fugitives decide to settle in the Roanoke colony, declaring it a free place for all. Intrigued by the continuing events, Uatu continues to watch the new universe.

[The Shadow]

I don't think That Steve is a clone
I think it's The Commie Smasher Cap from the fifties

Possible given how death works in the Marvel Universe... but having said that the Grand Director (the Cap from the 50's) is dead.

He committed suicide after being defeated in battle by the original Captain America and Daredevil (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Director).

[Tyr]

Didn't the CBR solict for this book say that whatever it was that Sharon saw has something to do with the impending skrull invasion? Or was that a miss print?

I'm pretty bummed that Black Widow seems to be leaving this book for the time being.

Actually I've been entertaining thoughts about dropping this book for a bit. Though I haven't really decided. Money is starting to get tighter and I think I may have to cut back on the number of books I buy even though its a very short list at the moment.

[seeso]

Didn't the CBR solict for this book say that whatever it was that Sharon saw has something to do with the impending skrull invasion? Or was that a miss print?

The solicit blurb was:

The new Captain America fights the Red Skull's minions with Black Widow at his side and chaos erupting all around them! Meanwhile, Sharon Carter, still under the control of Dr. Faustus, makes a horrifying discovery about the next stage of the Skull's plans!

You may have misread "Skull" as "Skrull."

I'm pretty bummed that Black Widow seems to be leaving this book for the time being.

Actually I've been entertaining thoughts about dropping this book for a bit. Though I haven't really decided. Money is starting to get tighter and I think I may have to cut back on the number of books I buy even though its a very short list at the moment.

Far be it from me to tell you what to spend your money on, but Captain America is one of the best books Marvel publishes. I wouldn't drop it if I were you.

[The Shadow]

Actually I've been entertaining thoughts about dropping this book for a bit. Money is starting to get tighter and I think I may have to cut back on the number of books I buy even though its a very short list at the moment.

:eek:

And THIS is one of the books you are contemplating dropping?????? :confused:

IMO this is Marvel's best book bar none. It's got intrigue, awesome characters, fantastic characterization, the whole thing is one sweeping story not a bunch of meaningless stories tied by the issue numbers...

I know this type of book isn't for everybody... but why would you drop this and not any other books you read?

[Mr. Earl Brooks]

Couldn't it be the Red Skull's body? It was a clone of cap to begin with right? It seems like if after fallen son that Steve's body just appears in the Red Skull's hands that would cheapen Fallen Son just a bit. Who knows though maybe we'll get a flash back of the Red Skull's crew invading Atlantis (yes that was sarcastic). The Skull's a bad ass, but an Atlantean incursion? Doubtful.

It seems like it would be Easier to snatch the Red Skull's body than it would be to steal the real Steve Rogers' corpse.

[Jeff-X]

There are a few things I'm wondering.

Steve's body is supposedly back in the ice water, and Ironman put a fake in the grave in Arlington...
What exactly does that mean? What kind of a fake is it? A random dead guy's body? An LMD? Red Skull's dead former cloned body of Steve from issue 1?

If not, then what happened to Red Skull's dead Steve-cloned body from issue 1?


Is there anyway, since the Skull had infiltrated SHIELD some time ago, that the Skull could have had the cloned body he was in repaired and given a few more gunshot wounds then swapped with Steve's body in the hellicarrier? Steve's body decaying so quickly could have simply been because it was actually the cloned body that has been dead (and decaying slowly b/c of the SSS) since issue 1?

[CaptainCanada]

Oh Lawd ya'll. I said it before and I will say it again Steve's return when it happens will IMO be tied back to the mini series 1602.
Brubaker has said this is its own story, so I seriously doubt it'll be tied to an old miniseries that he had nothing to do with.

[rogerio]

I'm pretty bummed that Black Widow seems to be leaving this book for the time being.

WHAT!? WHY?:confused:

[Agent_Torpor]

WHAT!? WHY?:confused:

I don't know if she's actually leaving the storyline, but her involvement with Bucky is done for now, thanks to him being front page news.

[Dawidos]

Red Skull's dead former cloned body of Steve from issue 1?

No, because body of Steve and "Red Skull's dead former cloned body of Steve" are different. The second one had a feature: red skull! Its face has been altered by Dust of Death, Red Skull's favourite weapon which turned agains him.

Could somebody tell me if I am right. At the end of the issue when Sharon says: "They are worrying about his daughter now", is she reffering to Red Skull's daughter (Sin, Synthia Schmidt), who has been wounded and unconsious? What do you think?

[Tyr]

You may have misread "Skull" as "Skrull."



Far be it from me to tell you what to spend your money on, but Captain America is one of the best books Marvel publishes. I wouldn't drop it if I were you.

:eek:

And THIS is one of the books you are contemplating dropping?????? :confused:



Oh good, its bad enough that they're breaking up the Black Widow and Captain America team up, at least temporarily. But, for a minute there I thought the Skrull invasion was going to get in here an muck up an otherwise great story. Which was the main thing that got me into thinking about dropping the book.

In that case I think I can keep it on my list. :)

[CaptainCanada]

Could somebody tell me if I am right. At the end of the issue when Sharon says: "They are worrying about his daughter now", is she reffering to Red Skull's daughter (Sin, Synthia Schmidt), who has been wounded and unconsious? What do you think?
Yes, she's saying that while everyone is distracted by the Skull's wounded daughter, she's going to save her own kid.

[DeadXMan]

Possible given how death works in the Marvel Universe... but having said that the Grand Director (the Cap from the 50's) is dead.

He committed suicide after being defeated in battle by the original Captain America and Daredevil (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Director).

and Sharon was also killed then aswell.

My guess is Red Skull went back got the burn up body of GD and threw him into a regeneration tank.

Gonna put the old costume on him and tell him the protesters are the Reds attacking.

and I'll put money Bucky gonna put him down like he did to nomad

[Agent_Torpor]

Steve looked sexy in all that formaldehyde. WOOP!

[Beast]

My guess:

It's Sharon Carter's baby, age accelerated with the Red Skull's brain patterns transferred over.

[Kirk G]

Hmmm... I guess Namors vow to keep Caps body undisturbed didn't pan out. Though he's been busy lately, so I guess that's understandable.

Hell...who needs Cap's original body? Arim Zola is a master at cloning, and for best cloning, you need T-cells...which are amply present in a fetus and placenta. Think it through guys.... who's kid is Sharon carrying????:rolleyes:

[Netley]

My guess:

It's Sharon Carter's baby, age accelerated with the Red Skull's brain patterns transferred over.

Sounds like a pretty solid theory to me - fits in with the MO's and overall plan of the villains. (Though why would he look EXACTLY like Steve?)

I like knowing it doesn't have anything to do with Skrulls or the Invaders mini; Bru's really telling his own saga here!

[CaptainCanada]

It can't be the baby, because the villains just found out about that this issue, and are in the process of confirming it.

[sschroeder]

I'm not currently a regular Cap reader at this point (please, no lectures), but I bought this one and enjoyed it. Realizing that Black Widow was coming with a flying car really was a moment of pleasure for me.

[Liberty Belle Fan]

I loved the issue, but I have to honestly say I have no theories or ideas as to the ending of issue #36. I will now wait another agonizing month until #37 hits the stands.

[filthysize]

I've got it.

It's his long lost brother! Who has amnesia!

[crimson red]

Holy cow...
rolltideguy77 you're RIGHT!
It's the cap from 1602!!!!!! OMFG!

[Theophilus]

The 50s Cap seems like it would be the biggest payoff for longtime fans, as it's still one of the most beloved stories in all of Captain America's history.

That might be why the Skull is so excited about Bucky being the new Cap. Bucky hasn't encountered the 50s Cap before and will be unnerved to confront someone who looks exactly like Steve--and for all he knows, could be Steve.

I would really like to see that confrontation.

[Rolltideguy77]

Holy cow...
rolltideguy77 you're RIGHT!
It's the cap from 1602!!!!!! OMFG!

I know, it's a gift.

[DeadXMan]

The 50s Cap seems like it would be the biggest payoff for longtime fans, as it's still one of the most beloved stories in all of Captain America's history.

That might be why the Skull is so excited about Bucky being the new Cap. Bucky hasn't encountered the 50s Cap before and will be unnerved to confront someone who looks exactly like Steve--and for all he knows, could be Steve.

I would really like to see that confrontation.

Not to mention he had the winter solder kill the 50's bucky.

[Quasar's Bands]

I agree that Steve Rogers, the Grand Director, is most likely that bloke floating in the tank. It makes sense that Faustus would keep the man who looked like Steve and legally shared his name around for some nefarious reason. I also think that he's the one on the cover of #39.

[SnakeEater]

my only real exposure to cap is the whole civil war thing and that got me wanting to read everything by brubaker. im waiting for my hardcover to come in the mail but what should i need to know before reading this volume?

[jackolover]

Why did Tony Stark lie to POTUS about not knowing who the new Captain America is?

[CaptainCanada]

Because he's keeping Cap a secret, per their arrangement.

[jackolover]

Because he's keeping Cap a secret, per their arrangement.

I'm not sure what knowing who Cap is will do to the Captain America situation. Does POTUS think that if it's Bucky Barnes, POTUS will arrest him? The President should have asked Tony to go after him and register Cap, but that wasn't talked about either. What is the new Caps status, now that one has appeared? Is he an 'allowed' vigilante?