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Swashbuckler
03-18-2008, 12:32 PM
So I was reading some old Carol Danvers appearances and loved her drunk storyline. I think an X-Man needs to become a hardcore lush for a few years and totally hit rock bottom by being careless in battle, missing danger room sessions and possibly going on a coke benge. Who should it be?

Novaya Havoc
03-18-2008, 12:37 PM
Your poll is grammatically incorrect.

Ergo, I cannot vote.

Swashbuckler
03-18-2008, 12:39 PM
Your poll is grammatically incorrect.

Ergo, I cannot vote.

blah blah. It's drunk type, it fits the theme.

Novaya Havoc
03-18-2008, 12:43 PM
Intoxication is no excuse for poor grammar.

Toboe
03-18-2008, 12:51 PM
A drunk hippie Hepzibah must be here to stay!

caney
03-18-2008, 12:56 PM
Hepzibah holds her alcohol too well to be a lush. I bet she could even out drink Wolverine. She's trained on space alcohol which is 1000 times better than Earth alcohol. Everything in space is better than it is here. Space is the new Canada!

PaStella
03-18-2008, 01:07 PM
I always found storylines involving Storm and loss of control alluring :evilsmile

Mikl C
03-18-2008, 01:20 PM
I loved Ms Marvel when she was pissed.
She was all BLAM BLAM HAHAHA KREE DIE!!!
Now she's all boring and stupid.

Hi-Fi
03-18-2008, 01:21 PM
Mikl. I demand your drunk Hepzibah avatar back! The one you made with that picture I posted. LOL

Swashbuckler
03-18-2008, 01:26 PM
I agree, Ms.Marvel was way better as drunk. I'd love to see an X-Man accidentally blast a comrade in batle because he or she had one to many shots of Jack Daniels. A stint in rehab that fails and then being kicked off the team would rock. Then, he or she could keep showing up for battles and messing things up. Unless it'a a new x-man. then it's all off panel, but the X-Men can talk about it still.

Mikl C
03-18-2008, 01:34 PM
hurk hif I can't find the pic! Post again!

Pach!
03-18-2008, 01:57 PM
I have this small avatar I made for someone.

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u60/losequismen/HepCorAv.jpg

Mikl C
03-18-2008, 01:58 PM
No that's not it! She was swigging from a bottle.
ARGH

Hi-Fi
03-18-2008, 02:00 PM
It's from the same scene, though! LOL

Mikl C
03-18-2008, 02:01 PM
I totally just went through your photobucket andres. So much ricky martin!

Hi-Fi
03-18-2008, 02:05 PM
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/5493/hepzibahdrunkyu8.jpg

Mikl C
03-18-2008, 02:09 PM
HOT
totally fap worthy. gimme a min

pryde15
03-18-2008, 02:09 PM
Tranny Fierce!

Monty_Cristo
03-18-2008, 02:26 PM
Shortpack could totally be a lush. i bet he has no tolerance, whatsoever. i bet he sings karaoke too.


P.S. if i ever start a band, they will be called Thuppoxian Thunderscream!

Pach!
03-18-2008, 02:28 PM
I totally just went through your photobucket andres. So much ricky martin!

Hahaha! You used to e-mail me ricky martin pictures so it's your fault!

Phil Hunn
03-18-2008, 02:33 PM
HOT
totally fap worthy. gimme a min

Heh. Look at the way she's deep-throating that bottle - it's no wonder Corsair was so keen... :p

worstblogever
03-18-2008, 02:35 PM
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/5493/hepzibahdrunkyu8.jpg

I read it wrong at first and thought he was offering her "Thuppoxian Thunder Cream."

Which, right after being told you don't need to seduce her, sounds like he had something in mind... way to go Corsair.

Swashbuckler
03-18-2008, 03:00 PM
Another good idead would be to have some X-character who was depowered become a total alcoholic and refuse to believe he or she has truely lost his or her powers. They could run into battle like a total moron and somehow survive. Or just be depressed like Quicksilver....

Quicksilver should become a total drunk.

_Jayme_
03-18-2008, 07:49 PM
I know Dazzler fans will hate me, but I say Dazzler..She's in the public eye as a singer..Seeing her hit rock bottom and show her pikachu when she's getting out of her limo with some Mad Dog 20/20 would be nice to see...Or snorting some coke, like Kate Moss..

Or maybe Hepzibah. It's always fun to see first timers drink. :p

Dazzler
03-18-2008, 08:01 PM
I picked Dazzler because I think it would make a great E! True Hollywood Story.
Also, she's been tempted by drink demons in the past. (Thanks a lot, Roman.)

So, if it came down to her being some hyper-diva bitch or a lush, I'd go lush.

--Dazz

creaky
03-18-2008, 08:12 PM
Man, I want to see Kurt drunk again, like when he drove Amanda away by being a paranoid, self-pitying jerk, perched on her balcony in the rain like a gargoyle, howling at the moon (huh?). He was still perfectly lucid at that point, though, which makes me wonder what a REALLY drunk Kurt would be like. Bar fights! Puking in gutters! Biting! Wolverine having to clean up after HIM for once, apologizing for his friend's behavior. And what happens when you teleport while drunk?
It's been so long since we saw the elf's inner bad boy. Let's have him grieve his mommy in a not-so-dignified way. I vote for Drunken Elf in 2008.

Swashbuckler
03-18-2008, 08:37 PM
I agree. Mystique being such a pain in the ass should be good motivation for him to become a super drunk. He needs to let loose.

That JonoGuy
03-18-2008, 09:44 PM
I hate myself for this vote, but I went with Siryn. She is one of my favorite characters, but you have got to admit Siryn relapsing would be a good read. Especially now with a a baby on the way.

Brett P
03-18-2008, 10:00 PM
I LOL'd at "beer-serker rages?" :D

Man, I want to see Kurt drunk again, like when he drove Amanda away by being a paranoid, self-pitying jerk, perched on her balcony in the rain like a gargoyle, howling at the moon (huh?).

He did what now? :eek:

creaky
03-18-2008, 10:15 PM
He did what now? :eek:

Uncanny X-men #204 (http://uncannyxmen.net/db/issues/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=722).

Brett P
03-18-2008, 10:21 PM
Goodness!

Kurt is desperately in need of some spotlight. I mean, he had his own series for a short while and then what happened?!

creaky
03-18-2008, 10:28 PM
Goodness!

Kurt is desperately in need of some spotlight. I mean, he had his own series for a short while and then what happened?!

It got cancelled and he became furniture. Although I am really enjoying him in Uncanny right now.

The_Bubblie
03-18-2008, 10:33 PM
Siryn definately sounds like a good choice but ultimately I went with Storm. If at some point Marvel decides to ruin her marriage to Black Panther than I could see it being a perfect setup for Storm to get wasted every night.

creaky
03-18-2008, 11:12 PM
I should add that that issue was, if memory serves (DDM or someone, if I'm off, correct me, please!) part of a slow-burn character arc Claremont had going for him at the time, although I didn't think of it that way until recently.

I think it started when he was appointed leader in Storm's absence. His confidence started to topple because he didn't feel he could live up to the task. He had been comfortable in his jokester role for so long. He also started having a crisis of faith due to encountering either the Beyonder or some other god-like being (this particular part is kind of hazy to me). The question being, if this man has the power of God, does God really exist? Since his faith is probably his biggest source of strength, he starts to crumble at this.

Then The Beyonder sweeps all the X-men away and leaves only Kurt behind. That's when Uncanny X-men #204 occurs. He tries to escape his problems by drinking, he lashes out at Amanda and this causes him to lose another support in his life, as Amanda decides she's had enough of his crap and leaves.

He dives into swashbuckling as a distraction, saves the day and the princess and walks off with a big grin on his face. I've had some problems with accepting this before, because it seemed to me like that was supposed to be the end of his problems, although it was actually pointed out by Judith Rassendyll at the end of the story that his approach didn't seem very healthy.

However, I realized later that Kurt's problems HADN'T ended with that issue. It was just a way of pointing out that he had a bad way of dealing with them - by distracting himself from brooding with physical stunts and gaining confidence that way.

We later see him being over-eager and over-confident when the X-men fight Nimrod and he gets himself blasted in the process. He shows up some issues later on the street, broken down and beaten up and without the ability to teleport.
He regains his teleportation ability later, but not up to full strength.
When the Mutant Massacre happens, he's still recovering from that. I would guess that he still suffers from a desperate need to prove himself (right before they get taken to the Morlock tunnels, he 'ports to greet Wolverine and ends up falling into his arms in a heap, exhausted from the stunt. Wolverine asks him "What were you trying to prove?"), because when faced with the Marauders, he abandons all reason and ignores Logan's advice and attacks Vertigo in a way that leaves him exhausted and vulnerable to attack. Then Riptide tears into him, he's too exhausted to 'port away and BAM. Kurt's out of the game.

When he wakes up and finds the X-men are dead, one of the first things he does is be his old stupid self - by over-extending during a training session and almost getting himself killed. Kitty saves his sorry tail and chews him out (this is in "The sword is drawn" - the lead-in to Excalibur.)

Here's where the rebuilding begins, because Kurt now finds himself in a situation where he can't act like that anymore - he has to grow up, or his friends will suffer from it. Excalibur needs a leader and Braddock isn't up to the task. It's notable that Kurt is crippled for a good part of the run - his teleportation is very limited and then Braddock breaks his leg. Thus, he can no longer escape from his issues by swashbuckling.

The rest is history.

_Jayme_
03-18-2008, 11:41 PM
Kurt turning against God for something bad happening would be nice...then he can randomly start talking shit about the Jews like Mel Gibson.

Alex A Sanchez
03-19-2008, 12:08 AM
Dunno if X-Factor members count, but Siryn is the current team lush.

La Fea
03-19-2008, 12:21 AM
SIRYN IS A RESPONSIBLE PARENT!

If she wasn't, then Layla would be born with a third arm connected to her forehead.

Hey, that'd be kinda cool! :o

Bingo!
03-19-2008, 01:29 AM
Goodness!

Kurt is desperately in need of some spotlight. I mean, he had his own series for a short while and then what happened?!

Then Kurt realized that swashbuckling was Johnny Depp's work. Kurt is Catholic and like all good Catholics he should be enjoying a stiff drink now and then.

German + Catholic + Swashbuckling = heavy to "Karen" drinking. :D

X-Writers take note.

FortKnox
03-19-2008, 01:37 AM
Kurt turning against God for something bad happening would be nice...then he can randomly start talking shit about the Jews like Mel Gibson.

Yeah he could say that the REAL reason that mutants are feared and hated is because of the Jews. The Jews are holding them down. And then when the X-women try to get him to shut up, Kurt would call them sugartits.

Kid Kyoto
03-19-2008, 01:59 AM
Sorry are we saying Dazzler isn't already a coke-head?

I mean she's a 70s disco diva, I'd be disappointed if this wasn't canon.

worstblogever
03-19-2008, 03:42 AM
Yeah he could say that the REAL reason that mutants are feared and hated is because of the Jews. The Jews are holding them down. And then when the X-women try to get him to shut up, Kurt would call them sugartits.

He's Kurt Wagner, not Tony Montana.

metalgorgomon
03-19-2008, 03:48 AM
Sorry are we saying Dazzler isn't already a coke-head?

I mean she's a 70s disco diva, I'd be disappointed if this wasn't canon.

That's exactly what i thought. She's a diva, a mutant and a hero. It's already T.M.T.H. Maybe she's more like Naomi Campbel. A coke head but never looked bad and still look fabulous.

Dazzler
03-19-2008, 03:54 AM
Sorry are we saying Dazzler isn't already a coke-head?

I mean she's a 70s disco diva, I'd be disappointed if this wasn't canon.

RIGHT?!

Depending on how you played it, it could either be hilarious or harrowing. But anybody based off of Studio 54 (essentially), has got a little sparkle dust running through their veins. So to speak. ;)

--Dazz

d newton
03-19-2008, 04:26 AM
I can picture it now - a drunk Dazzler meets Angel at a bar and he takes her home. Next morning, she reads a paper with the headline "Mystique on the run" then finds Angel's unconscious body in a cupboard. :D

Swashbuckler
03-19-2008, 07:04 AM
Dazzler isn't an on panel coke head. Not that I know of. But seriously, she'd only be a fun drunk if the media ran with it and she lost her entire singing career. Which no Dazzler fan would really want. That's why I can't support voting for Dazz. That and she wins every stinking poll in the world.

jarrod
03-19-2008, 08:22 AM
Betsy and Tessa. I'd be wasted 24/7 too if I was in their position.

jarrod
03-19-2008, 08:23 AM
Dazzler isn't an on panel coke head.
Her suppossed overdose was however mentioned on panel.

Millar! <3 <3

_Jayme_
03-19-2008, 01:08 PM
I can picture it now - a drunk Dazzler meets Angel at a bar and he takes her home. Next morning, she reads a paper with the headline "Mystique on the run" then finds Angel's unconscious body in a cupboard. :D

Or better yet, get Dazzler pregnant..I don't see why Marvel never kept that idea with Destiny and Mystique.

I hate PG-13 shit.

darknessatnoon
03-19-2008, 01:16 PM
Or better yet, get Dazzler pregnant..I don't see why Marvel never kept that idea with Destiny and Mystique.

I hate PG-13 shit.

That idea made no sense! That broad Destiny would have had to have been in her fifties when she gave birth.

I submit that Xavier probably drove his exes to drink. Moira McTaggart was at the pub far too often to cure the Legacy Virus. Also, Gabrielle Haller's son, Legion, was clearly a victim of fetal alcohol syndrome.

SensorBoy
03-19-2008, 01:22 PM
Tranny Fierce!

HULK STRAIGHT!

Dazzler
03-19-2008, 04:32 PM
Her suppossed overdose was however mentioned on panel.

Millar! <3 <3

That would have been interesting. If it weren't Millar just playing it cheap.
I don't think that's generally recognized as having happened, is it?

--Dazz

Monty_Cristo
03-19-2008, 04:57 PM
That's exactly what i thought. She's a diva, a mutant and a hero. It's already T.M.T.H. Maybe she's more like Naomi Campbel. A coke head but never looked bad and still look fabulous.

Dazzler needs to beat someone with a phone.

Dazzler
03-19-2008, 05:39 PM
Dazzler needs to beat someone with a phone.
That would be worth the 2.99 cover price!

--Dazz

Novaya Havoc
03-19-2008, 06:38 PM
ExCUSE me. Dazzler doesn't DO drugs.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b41/havoc1/Dazzler/dopedazz.jpg

Monty_Cristo
03-19-2008, 06:56 PM
ExCUSE me. Dazzler doesn't DO drugs.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b41/havoc1/Dazzler/dopedazz.jpg

all i see is evidence that she considers dope beneath her. it's a lot like Whitney saying "Crack is Whack."

Dazzler
03-19-2008, 06:57 PM
all i see is evidence that she considers dope beneath her. it's a lot like Whitney saying "Crack is Whack."
Dope is beneath her...but she'd take a Scarface swan dive into some blow if you put it in front of her. ;)
GOD. And check out that coke rage...clearly, her source is tapped.

--Dazz

Monty_Cristo
03-19-2008, 07:17 PM
Dope is beneath her...but she'd take a Scarface swan dive into some blow if you put it in front of her. ;)
GOD. And check out that coke rage...clearly, her source is tapped.

--Dazz

Coke Rage? sounds like a Claremont villain.

Dazzler
03-19-2008, 07:19 PM
Coke Rage? sounds like a Claremont villain.

Does, doesn't it? Like Rolling Thunder's missing twin or something.
Dazzler would only heft a picture frame across the room if she had suddenly discovered her disco ball necklace was suddenly dry.

--Dazz

Swashbuckler
03-19-2008, 08:38 PM
Does, doesn't it? Like Rolling Thunder's missing twin or something.
Dazzler would only heft a picture frame across the room if she had suddenly discovered her disco ball necklace was suddenly dry.

--Dazz

That's totally where she keeps her coke. Like in that Sarah Michelle Gellar movie. Total addict. She and whitney should do a reality rehab show together!

Kid Kyoto
03-19-2008, 11:38 PM
"No thank you Lucky Louie I'm doing fine all be myself"

Sounds like she just doesn't trust strange suppliers.

Alex A Sanchez
03-21-2008, 03:36 PM
SIRYN IS A RESPONSIBLE PARENT!

If she wasn't, then Layla would be born with a third arm connected to her forehead.

Hey, that'd be kinda cool! :o


Crap. Yeah, I just remembered that she was preggers. In the newest X-Factor she's drinking bottled water at the bar, right?

Phil Hunn
03-21-2008, 05:28 PM
Crap. Yeah, I just remembered that she was preggers. In the newest X-Factor she's drinking bottled water at the bar, right?

Don't have it on me to check, but I'd hope Terry isn't so stupid as to endanger her kid with the demon drink.

_Jayme_
03-21-2008, 05:38 PM
I think it's odd how Siryn is still flying and jumping around while she's pregnant....I hope that's thought about later down the road and she isn't kicking her legs up into the air at 8 months.

creaky
03-21-2008, 05:52 PM
I think it's odd how Siryn is still flying and jumping around while she's pregnant....I hope that's thought about later down the road and she isn't kicking her legs up into the air at 8 months.

It's Peter David. Let's have some faith.

Phil Hunn
03-21-2008, 06:54 PM
I think it's odd how Siryn is still flying and jumping around while she's pregnant....I hope that's thought about later down the road and she isn't kicking her legs up into the air at 8 months.

I think that's going to be taken care of. At least I'd hope so, because otherwise Siryn is going to be waddling off to take a pee in the middle of a fight - and nobody wants to see that, do they?

Novaya Havoc
03-21-2008, 08:03 PM
DAZZLER DOES NOT DO COCAINE!

Gosh.

She's as pure as the WINTER SNOW!

Slung
03-21-2008, 09:12 PM
DAZZLER DOES NOT DO COCAINE!

Gosh.

She's as pure as the WINTER SNOW!

Dazzler ONLY takes drugs prescribed a physician!

Not prescribed for her, perhaps but shut up you haters!

Phil Hunn
03-21-2008, 09:26 PM
Dazzler ONLY takes drugs prescribed a physician!

Not prescribed for her, perhaps but shut up you haters!

LOL.

I'm glad somebody else went there...

_Jayme_
03-21-2008, 09:44 PM
I think that's going to be taken care of. At least I'd hope so, because otherwise Siryn is going to be waddling off to take a pee in the middle of a fight - and nobody wants to see that, do they?

Well...there are some perves who wouldn't mind. :P

Swashbuckler
03-21-2008, 10:40 PM
like Optic Rage.

I wonder whatever happened to my Stoner X-Men thread?

Phil Hunn
03-22-2008, 07:59 AM
Well...there are some perves who wouldn't mind. :P

I'm sure there are. I just hope they're as far away from me as possible ;)

Swashbuckler
03-23-2008, 09:08 PM
I wonder if Storm was drunk when she married BP??

Swashbuckler
04-09-2008, 01:35 PM
I'm seriously wanting to leave work and go have a beer. I'd surely buy any X-Men at the bar a round.

darknessatnoon
04-09-2008, 01:40 PM
I'm seriously wanting to leave work and go have a beer. I'd surely buy any X-Men at the bar a round.

I bet Aurora mixes in some wine with her medication.

I need a drink, too. I don't know if I'd cosplay for it, though.

Question: When a person cosplays for gain is that considered coswork?

worstblogever
04-09-2008, 01:42 PM
I wonder if Storm was drunk when she married BP??

She wasn't drunk, per se. She was being lapped up by Yukio, is what I heard.

rZi
04-09-2008, 01:59 PM
DAZZLER DOES NOT DO COCAINE!

Gosh.

She's as pure as the WINTER SNOW!

ROFL, big pun :biggrin:

mikeb
04-09-2008, 04:43 PM
Yeah he could say that the REAL reason that mutants are feared and hated is because of the Jews. The Jews are holding them down. And then when the X-women try to get him to shut up, Kurt would call them sugartits.

Dude! You ripped that plot off from an eposode of "Law and Order" that I believe came out about a year and half ago...

Dazzler
04-09-2008, 04:53 PM
She wasn't drunk, per se. She was being lapped up by Yukio, is what I heard.

*Snicker*
Ain't *that* the truth?

--Dazz

psycwave
12-27-2008, 08:29 AM
I vote Claudine & Hepzibah!!!!!!!

Waterlily
12-27-2008, 09:57 AM
Apparently I voted for Nightcrawler, though I have no recollection of doing so...

Swashbuckler
12-27-2008, 10:04 AM
Psycwave, are you resurrecting my threads on purpose?

x_goalkeeper
12-27-2008, 02:54 PM
Nightcrawler would make sense now :biggrin:

fitditz
12-27-2008, 03:13 PM
I vote Claudine & Hepzibah!!!!!!!

Definitely Claudine...

psycwave
12-27-2008, 03:14 PM
Psycwave, are you resurrecting my threads on purpose?

I was actually looking for just the Opal one, but couldn't pass this one up.

SailorCallie
12-27-2008, 04:37 PM
I can't imagine a drunk Wolverine b/c his healing factor negates the alcohol from the bloodstream the same way it does with the nicotine and his lungs from his cigars.

justinkos91
12-27-2008, 06:28 PM
No thanks to Siryn
it was a long process, she's over it
don't wanna ruin her baby :tongue:
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o296/justinkos91/YoungSiryn.jpg
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o296/justinkos91/DrunkSiryn.jpg
I'd say New X-men though
If she can start drinking at a young age (13)
Imagine them kids today :tongue:
Peer pressure can be a bitch...

justinkos91
12-27-2008, 06:33 PM
Crap. Yeah, I just remembered that she was preggers. In the newest X-Factor she's drinking bottled water at the bar, right?

Yup, while Monet was suggesting abortion
Siryn's caring enough to reject abortion and drink water :smile:

SailorCallie
12-27-2008, 06:35 PM
No thanks to Siryn
it was a long process, she's over it
don't wanna ruin her baby :tongue:
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o296/justinkos91/YoungSiryn.jpg
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o296/justinkos91/DrunkSiryn.jpg
I'd say New X-men though
If she can start drinking at a young age (13)
Imagine them kids today :tongue:
Peer pressure can be a bitch...

I don't think Siryn has not had some alcohol ever since she learned that she's having Jamie's baby. Fetal Alcohol Syndrome is not a pleasant diagnosis to welcome their new child with.

Mr_Hellfire
12-27-2008, 09:37 PM
I refuse to vote there is no Emma on here and she's the biggest alcoholic in the making. Seriously, I have a collection of pages in mind right now of her drinking (usually when she's upset) or talking about a hangover. Yes, I think lushy Emma would be fun. Plus telepath? Not only telling her truths, but everyone else's too.

justinkos91
12-27-2008, 11:04 PM
What about Claudine?

Waterlily
12-27-2008, 11:48 PM
What about Claudine?

http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=245538&highlight=miss+sinister

justinkos91
12-27-2008, 11:56 PM
http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=245538&highlight=miss+sinister

LOL, loved that thread :biggrin:
Seeing it though, somehow reminds me of Eye in the Sky
I miss his bad attitude :redface: