*Sigh* I don't really like the Trinity...

[Kid Kamikaze10]

I don't think any of them are interesting. Not compared to other DC characters in similar genres, not even compared to some members in their "families". They are constantly forced into being better than everyone, decreasing the amount of challenges they truly have, and decreasing the importance of other heroes.

Not even Darkseid, who's supposed to be one of the biggest threats in the DCU, can really beat them at this point. Batman can outsmart him, Wonder Woman can block his Omega Beam, and Superman can kick his a$$. What makes this worse is that their arch-villains, no matter how unrealistically (Cheetah, Joker), are somehow the most important villains in DC.

Even in the Sinestro Corp War, when they decided to attack Earth, the story was practically ruined for me, because I had a feeling that the Trinity would waltz in there and annihilate the Sinestro Corp. Thankfully, I was proven wrong, but reading IC and then 52, I began to noticed how much I liked the DCU without the Trinity.

To be honest, they were not the reason I got into DC. Ted Kord, Sandman, and the JSA were the reasons why. I'm even worried that they might be the reason why non-comic book readers can't get into DC. Usually the first thing I hear when someone doesn't like DC is, "Superman and Wonder Woman are too powerful and boring. Batman is the only DC hero I like."

Superman and Wonder Woman practically are too powerful, or are considered that through their inconsistent feats. And if other DC heroes were marketed to the public, I'm sure Batman wouldn't be considered the "only interesting DC hero".

I don't like rants. I don't like posting rants, but I just want to know, are there other people around here that have any problem with the Trinity?

[Johnny_Luck]

Yeah I like Tim, Cassie and Kara so much more then the Big three its not even funny.

[WorstThingUS]

I don't think any of them are interesting. Not compared to other DC characters in similar genres, not even compared to some members in their "families". They are constantly forced into being better than everyone, decreasing the amount of challenges they truly have, and decreasing the importance of other heroes.

Not even Darkseid, who's supposed to be one of the biggest threats in the DCU, can really beat them at this point. Batman can outsmart him, Wonder Woman can block his Omega Beam, and Superman can kick his a$$. What makes this worse is that their arch-villains, no matter how unrealistically (Cheetah, Joker), are somehow the most important villains in DC.

Even in the Sinestro Corp War, when they decided to attack Earth, the story was practically ruined for me, because I had a feeling that the Trinity would waltz in there and annihilate the Sinestro Corp. Thankfully, I was proven wrong, but reading IC and then 52, I began to noticed how much I liked the DCU without the Trinity.

To be honest, they were not the reason I got into DC. Ted Kord, Sandman, and the JSA were the reasons why. I'm even worried that they might be the reason why non-comic book readers can't get into DC. Usually the first thing I hear when someone doesn't like DC is, "Superman and Wonder Woman are too powerful and boring. Batman is the only DC hero I like."

Superman and Wonder Woman practically are too powerful, or are considered that through their inconsistent feats. And if other DC heroes were marketed to the public, I'm sure Batman wouldn't be considered the "only interesting DC hero".

I don't like rants. I don't like posting rants, but I just want to know, are there other people around here that have any problem with the Trinity?

I agree this book does not need to exist, but apparently Superman/Batman has proven that no matter how lame any book with the "Big Two" will turn a profit, so why not up that ante with the "Big Three?"

But Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman are the apex of heroism in the DCU. Superman is the apex of powers, being near godhood in his purity and power levels (despite attempts at reducing him) and Batman is the best a committed human can be. Wonder Woman is a combination of the two aside from being perhaps the only female in the DCU at her level. This defacto makes their villains the prime villains, though Luthor and Joker have earned their status. WW has always lacked for a true "A-list" nemesis.

And quite frankly, Superman should have wiped the floor with most of the Sinestro Corps on his own, but that would have made for a dull book.

But you don't have to read them and you don't have to buy this book so I don't get why you're ranting at all. A better topic would be who is more deserving of an additional book than "The Trinity?"

[CBikle]

I wonder how well this book will interact with Wonder Woman's book.

I'm guessing that the book will be like Batman & Superman and it'll be relatively self-contained.

[skally19]

threads like this are getting so cliche. "ooo look i don't like the trinity, i go against the grain"

[Kid Kamikaze10]

threads like this are getting so cliche. "ooo look i don't like the trinity, i go against the grain"

I guess it officially a problem to like other DC characters, and want them to be marketed to the mainstream audience, because there's seemingly a big demand for it.

If you didn't like the topic in the first place, then you could have easy gone to another topic.

[BurningStarIV]

I've never been a fan of Superman. He's always seemed like the average of every superhero cliche you can possibly come up with (though he is the reason most of these things are cliches). And I've only very VERY recently come to enjoy some of the Batman stories. But Wonder Woman is treated like the bastard step-child of the DC Universe. She's part of their Trinity, yet she's the one most likely left out, or taken for granted, or whatever, especially in recent years.

But, as a group, I think they function well as the center of the DC Universe. And there is a reason they hold the power that they hold over the other characters.

Like most things in comics, it's all a matter of opinion. I thought 52 was an amazing series, but not because of the lack of the Big Three. And I read a lot of series that focus on characters that don't interact frequently with those three, but their presence is always felt, and with good reason. I think removing these three from the Hierarchy of the DC Mythos would be a terrible idea.

But Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman are the apex of heroism in the DCU. Superman is the apex of powers, being near godhood in his purity and power levels (despite attempts at reducing him) and Batman is the best a committed human can be. Wonder Woman is a combination of the two aside from being perhaps the only female in the DCU at her level.....WW has always lacked for a true "A-list" nemesis.
I don't see Wonder Woman as a combination of Superman and Batman. Superman is an alien who, by all means, would have been average on his planet had it remained. Batman is a child of circumstance, though he is also a very brilliant guy. Wonder Woman is not quite human, though she has always been on Earth. She was raised as a warrior who teaches peace. She is treated by many as the most beautiful woman in the DC Universe. She has the powers of Gods and has never seemed to use them as most Gods are shown to. I see her as so vastly different from Batman and Superman. She is the Sun to Superman's Sky and Batman's Moon.

As for the villain thing, it's entirely true. Though she's had some major villains (Cheetah and Circe are two of the more memorable foes), she doesn't have a Lex Luthor or a Joker, and that has always been seen as a weakness of her series.

[filthysize]

*shrug*

I never really cared about how powerful they are or their supposed leadership and superiority. Maybe it's a weird stance to take, but superpower is about the last thing I care about in a superhero. I like the Big Three because of their personalities.

[Liberty Belle Fan]

I think that DC has the right idea in putting the Trinity in their own weekly series. Countdown featured scores of heroes, throwbacks, and old faces that did not have a lot to do with the Trinity, but in the end it wasn't (for me) that amazing.

[PamGrierOverdrive]

threads like this are getting so cliche. "ooo look i don't like the trinity, i go against the grain"


Yeah, whereas responses like yours are a breath of fresh air.

[titanfan]

They're interesting to me--just a tad big OVEREXPOSED (at least Superman and Batman are) that it's hard to get excited about another title featuring them.

I'd much rather have a weekly in the vein of 52 about B-List heroes. (Countdown was kind of D-Listing it in some places)

[WorstThingUS]

I don't see Wonder Woman as a combination of Superman and Batman. Superman is an alien who, by all means, would have been average on his planet had it remained. Batman is a child of circumstance, though he is also a very brilliant guy. Wonder Woman is not quite human, though she has always been on Earth. She was raised as a warrior who teaches peace. She is treated by many as the most beautiful woman in the DC Universe. She has the powers of Gods and has never seemed to use them as most Gods are shown to. I see her as so vastly different from Batman and Superman. She is the Sun to Superman's Sky and Batman's Moon.



I should say she's more the middle ground between the two. On one hand she embraces Superman's boundless optimism along with his godlike stature. On the other hand, as you say, she is of the earth, was essentially human and can be cold and pragmatic when the time comes to it, but only in alternate universe stories is her full potential seemingly explored.

[BurningStarIV]

I should say she's more the middle ground between the two. On one hand she embraces Superman's boundless optimism along with his godlike stature. On the other hand, as you say, she is of the earth, was essentially human and can be cold and pragmatic when the time comes to it, but only in alternate universe stories is her full potential seemingly explored.
That is putting it perfectly. I just misinterpreted what you said.

[Forefinger]

threads like this are getting so cliche. "ooo look i don't like the trinity, i go against the grain"

posts like this are so cliche "ooo look, I don't like this thread because I go against the grain."

[Libaax]

Act like me then im a big Batman fan that acts his comics like Superman/Batman,Trinity,JLA etc dont exist.

Its just lame to make the best human street level hero without superpowers some "Batgod" that cant be beaten even though he doesnt have a chance against cosmic level villains.

I want him to be street level or world wide level, not fight against Darksied and co.

I was reading Daredevil 103 today and i was almost shocked to read that Daredevil thought he wouldnt have a chance against several superhero powered villains like Wrecker,Ox who was too strong for him to attack them alone. That he needed to to use them against eacother.

Why cant Batman be like that, like a real street level hero.....

[Mr Omnis]

I'm a fan of Detective Batman, personally, not Morrison's Batgod or anything like that. I haven't really been keeping up with modern DC, because of Countdown and everything like that, though, so I don't know if "Batgod" still applies or anything like that.