Ultimate Spiderman artist

[almattitude_v1]

What do you guys think of Stuart Immonen's work? honestly, IMO, i prefer Mark Bagley's art...

[Nick MB]

Very odd seeing someone else drawing the characters regularly after Bagley pretty much defined that corner of the universe, but I think Immonen has been great. On the assumption that Bagley was always going to leave and someone else was always going to need to take over, I can't think of anyone I'd rather have doing it.

[ThePhenom]

Despite the blasphemy I was never fond of Bagley, well not hugely fond.

On the other hand I love Immonen's art, he just does right.

So, in simple words, I prefer it.

[Splatt]

I don't like how Immonen draws Peter face. He looks bored 99% of the time.

[Ramirez IV]

I never liked Immonen's other stuff that much before Spidey, but after reading 'Death of a Goblin' I was won over. His action scenes are incredible, and after a while I think he'll get the nuances of conversation scenes and the everyday stuff that makes USM great. Maybe not scale the heady heights of Bagley's run, but hey, Bagley IS Spider Man for this 90's child.

Oh yeah, and everyone, EVERYONE needs Nextwave in their life.

[Angelus II]

Fair. It not the best, and it not the worst.

[Joe Franklin]

Bagley isn't 1/4 the artist Immonen is. Nuff said.:cool:

[IAMFuzzy]

I don't like how Immonen draws Peter face. He looks bored 99% of the time.
I don't like how he draws most human faces, other than that he's great.

[desanth]

I prefer Bagley. Immonem isn't that bad, but his faces are quirky to me.
As a fan of USM and it being the comic that got me back into comics(and the only comic I buy, others I just read online), I will always prefer Bagley to anyone who ever draws on USM. Doesn't matter how it looks, it'll never be as good as Bagley to me, because he defined USM to me. :D

[togeteiku42]

I prefer Bagley. Immonem isn't that bad, but his faces are quirky to me.
As a fan of USM and it being the comic that got me back into comics(and the only comic I buy, others I just read online), I will always prefer Bagley to anyone who ever draws on USM. Doesn't matter how it looks, it'll never be as good as Bagley to me, because he defined USM to me. :D

I kind of agree I really like Immonen's art, but Bagley IS Ultimate Spider-man. Infact, it is almost weird to see Bagley's art on other books.

But I do like having Immonen on the book. I just with there would be occasional Bagley issues.

[pryde15]

Like Immomen's art alot more than Bagley's, but then again I am a fan of Immomen period.

[hunter_peterson]

I don't see why people take issue with his faces, they always seemed very expressive to me. I like him better than Bagley, hes more distinctive. Can't wait for him to draw Venom and Carnage (and hopefully Beetle).

[BlackToe]

Immonen makes Peter look like Rocky Dennis from Mask alot of the times. The rest is good, but damn...I thought after Death of a Goblin I thought he warmed up and lost the weird faces. But right after, the faces went back to Rocky mode.

I hope he does Venom and Carnage some justice.

[desanth]

Immonen makes Peter look like Rocky Dennis from Mask alot of the times. The rest is good, but damn...I thought after Death of a Goblin I thought he warmed up and lost the weird faces. But right after, the faces went back to Rocky mode.

I hope he does Venom and Carnage some justice.

Actually I noticed the change in faces too, then it flipped back to his normal way and I was kinda disappointed. It'll be interesting to see his take on Venom and Carnage, hopefully Venom isn't made to look like the one we saw in Ultimates3(I was disappointed).

[ULTIMATE VENOM]

Now that Imonnen took over the art the story isnt what it use to be. And then you have the look of the characters Peter has to much hair on one side of his head aunt may looks 10 years older and when Spider-Man is web swinging theirs no cool swing position. But death of a goblin was good and if he does war of the symbiots the right way i'll have a change of heart about his art.

[stealthwise]

Immonen is a great artist. I liked Bagley's work, but Bagley was nowhere near as dynamic in terms of style or panel layout as Immonen. Immonen's battle scenes are fantastic, and his ability to use body language is impeccable as well.

I understand why some people might prefer Bagley, but there's no way that you can say that Bagley is objectively a better artist, especially after you put two issues side-by-side. Immonen's pages all convey different kinds of mood and emotion, and his attention to detail is superior. Bagley tends to focus on breaking up the pages into little panels that close in on people's faces, and he repeated himself a lot, which is common when you're drawing the same characters for so many issues.

[mutantgene]

Immonen is a great artist. I liked Bagley's work, but Bagley was nowhere near as dynamic in terms of style or panel layout as Immonen. Immonen's battle scenes are fantastic, and his ability to use body language is impeccable as well.
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what he said :-)

i love Immonens art, i tried to like Bagleys but i couldnt and in the end it kinda put me off Ult spidey a bit, but since the takeover ive loved this book more than ever! they way spidey is drawn now by immonen is some of my Fave spidey poses and as said before the body language is really good as well... makes for a better comic as a whole.

[togeteiku42]

On Mark Bagley's Wikipedia page it says that he was doing some special Ultimate Spider-man issues with Bendis right after he finished Mighty Avengers and before he left for DC.

Does Anybody know if this is true? And if so, when they will be released?

I know it's Wikipedia, so it may just be a rumor.

[Joe Franklin]

On Mark Bagley's Wikipedia page it says that he was doing some special Ultimate Spider-man issues with Bendis right after he finished Mighty Avengers and before he left for DC.

Does Anybody know if this is true? And if so, when they will be released?

I know it's Wikipedia, so it may just be a rumor.

I hope it's not true. I don't ever want to see Bagley's art on Ultimate Spiderman again. I will have to quit buying the book because of Bagley's art.:frown:

[timomcshade]

I still prefer Bagley's art to Immonen's. Not because Immonen is a bad artist, he is quite amazing actually, I think it's just that Bagley was on it for such a long time the change has been very jarring...for me at least. I always thought Immonen's art in the Ultimate Universe was best suited for the Fantastic Four. He IS doing great work I just have not warmed up to it so that is why I still prefer Bagley.

[Seraku]

I prefer Bagley's art, mainly because I've gotten so attached to it.

Immonen's art has been good, but I wish he would switch to a different style, like say make it similar to his art in "Superman: Secret Identity"

[Nick MB]

I prefer Bagley's art, mainly because I've gotten so attached to it.

Immonen's art has been good, but I wish he would switch to a different style, like say make it similar to his art in "Superman: Secret Identity"

The reason that decliate, realistic style worked was because it was in service to a very delicate, realistic story. Can you really imagine a scene of Spider-Man leaping around fighting Doc Ock would work in that style? If anything, it'd be an even bigger departure from Bagley's work.

[Sillia]

The main problem I had with Bagley was that he tended to draw girl faces the same way. Immonen has a more distinct style, but he isn't as heavy with the lines and his characters tend to sometimes look distinctly ape-like with the low sloping foreheads and hard lines with the eyes when they are angry.

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[timomcshade]

Yeah Bagley did draw some hot women! Like that splash where MJ and Liz go to that party and Gwen and Peter see them before Geldoff starts blowing crap up? Dude that was awesome art.

[Gloom Cookie]

I much prefer Bagley's artwork over Immonen's. Not that I dislike Immonen's work, but I don't care too much for his Spider-Man.

[Pyro]

I love Immonen's work on Ultimate Spidey. Yeah, Bagley had a defining run, but honestly I think Immonen is a more skilled artist. They both have their quirks though.

[datriadx18]

To b perfectly honest, Bagley's art didn't exactly wow me... but he came to represent USM to evry1. The differences b/w him and Immonen to me are
-Bagley does better conversation scenes as opposed to action packed scenarios ( the final battle in the clone saga left me wondering what was what)
-Immonen hasnt quite got a hang of conversation scenes yet ( he tends to draw weird faces on peter) but his action set-pieces are amazing ( death of a goblin anyone?)

Yeah... that my opinion

[hunter_peterson]

I prefer Immomen. His fight scenes are awsome, but his style really gets the emotion out of the characters. I don't think most of his faces are ugly either.

Bagley's characters expressed emotions like actors.

Immomen's characters express like watching normal people, but picking up every tiny detail of their mannerisms, mood and thoughts.

Go Immomen!

[togeteiku42]

I like them both and am happy with either of them

[timomcshade]

I like both artists as well but I am still going with Bagley. I pulled out my UXM and UFF issues he drew and compared them to everything he has done on USM and his USM stuff looks "off" to me compared to the other 2 books. Maybe it's because the other books have had many artists over their 53 and 93 issues where as USM had Bagley for 111 but it just doesn't look the same to me. I cannot put my finger on it. Give me a day or 2 and I'll scan some pages and post them and you can see what I am referring to. It could be the colorist or inker that is making it different. After all, who thought Yu's art would be good for SI. They picked the right inker and colorist and his SI stuff looks better than anything else I had seen by him. Maybe that is a problem with USM. I DO like Immonen's style there is just something not right to me with the USM work.

[RazorBats79]

I will admit that it took me a while to warm up to Bagley in ASM days. I much preferred Mcfarlane/Larsen (although some people see Larsen and Bagley as being very close, not me). But he did a great job with USM. I'm sure when people think of USM, they see Bagley's Spidey.
I think that Immonen is doing a great job too though! It must have been a bit of a stressful change to take the place of an artist, that was the only artist for a USM.
I am basically happy with Immonen except for one, very important detail.
He draws Spidey with no real muscle or definition. Issue 100 (I think) has Bagley's starting sketches of all Spidey's characters. Bagley's drawing's/notes of spidey are "Very lean, hasn't built up muscle from years-o-web swinging"
No matter, he still drew Spider-Man with definition and a little muscle. Immonen draws him a little too much like a 7 year old for my taste. Skinny arms/legs and a giant head.
That is my only complaint with Immonen. Otherwise he rules. His backgrounds are always very well done and he defiantly draws the Goblins the best.
I'm looking forward to what he does with Venom.
Let me just say that the colors have been great too. (I've hated some of USM's colors)

[stealthwise]

I like both artists as well but I am still going with Bagley. I pulled out my UXM and UFF issues he drew and compared them to everything he has done on USM and his USM stuff looks "off" to me compared to the other 2 books. Maybe it's because the other books have had many artists over their 53 and 93 issues where as USM had Bagley for 111 but it just doesn't look the same to me. I cannot put my finger on it. Give me a day or 2 and I'll scan some pages and post them and you can see what I am referring to. It could be the colorist or inker that is making it different. After all, who thought Yu's art would be good for SI. They picked the right inker and colorist and his SI stuff looks better than anything else I had seen by him. Maybe that is a problem with USM. I DO like Immonen's style there is just something not right to me with the USM work.

Immonen is always changing his style, constantly. His work on Ultimate X-men is different from Nextwave, and different from Superman: Secret Identity, and different from his early Adventures of Superman stuff, and plenty of works in between. Bagley's essentially been the same since the early 90s, which is fine, serviceable art, and many people seem to be comfortable with that, but man, his layouts are boring as hell. He uses the same poses, and cuts together the same indistinct panels of close-up shots of half-faces to meet his deadlines on USM when he was doing it bi-weekly. Personally, I think that it made Bendis a little bit lazy, and I notice that from day one Immonen has been experimenting far more than we've ever seen on Ultimate Spider-Man.

[Ramirez IV]

I think I prefer Immonen's action scenes, but Bagley was the king of smaller moments for me. My favourite parts of USM have always been the emotional, Peter and Mary Jane driven scenes, and Bagley got them down to a tee. Special mention to that sublime moment with Peter and Jean Grey in the Geldoff arc... few words, genius artwork.

I miss Bagley. But I'm happy with Immonen. Cheery eh?

[Joe Franklin]

Bagley's essentially been the same since the early 90s, which is fine, serviceable art, and many people seem to be comfortable with that, but man, his layouts are boring as hell. He uses the same poses, and cuts together the same indistinct panels of close-up shots of half-faces to meet his deadlines on USM when he was doing it bi-weekly.

:cool: Finally, somebody has told the truth. DC can keep Bagley forever.

[RazorBats79]

:cool: Finally, somebody has told the truth. DC can keep Bagley forever.

DC? Wow. I didn't know that.

[Mundungus]

He gets better with every issue. The last one with Omega Red was amazing!