Ultimates' Directors' Cut

[ThePhenom]

http://comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=13389

Wow.

Loeb defends the crapfest he's created with his usual excuses.

And Mad sounds very arrogant, apathetic or lazy. I'm not sure which.

[saintsaucey]

Meh I like the book and what he's doing with it. Sure I loved Millar's take on it but not every one can pull it off. I hated the way they butchard it in the animated movie. What was the point of basing it off a best selling title if they were gonna treat it like that. They might as well have based it off one of the other avenger stories and left it at that.

[IronStarks]

yeah Loeb didnt look his best in this interview

[hunter_peterson]

Leob loves himself too much. He should get over it, the little peckerhead.

[Superbeast]

http://comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=13389

Wow.

Loeb defends the crapfest he's created with his usual excuses.

And Mad sounds very arrogant, apathetic or lazy. I'm not sure which.

Joe Madureira IS lazy. Why do you think that BLAST! animated series he pitched to Nickelodeon years ago never got off the ground and why his attempt to become a computer game programmer ended of his own volition? Hell, Battle Chasers took 3 years between the first and last issues, I think 14 in total. The dude came back to comics because he failed at everything else because he couldn't put the work out in a timely fashion.

[Blader5489]

Hell, Battle Chasers took 3 years between the first and last issues, I think 14 in total.

Actually, Battle Chasers was supposed to be 10 issues long. Only 1-9 were released (with the ninth ending on a cliffhanger); issue #10 was never released.

So yeah, he's really and unprofessionally lazy.

[desanth]

I can't help but hate on Loeb. And Mad does sound really lazy :( makes me wonder if he bothered at all checking out the past looks of these guys(it seems implied he didn't look at Ultimate Spidey but really wanted to draw him, so I assume he never looked at Ultimate Thor so we got the chunkie non-tech Thor).
The one good thing that Mad said was something about Norse gods being robots, so I'm hoping that this hokey Thor is a Thor-bot either Tony or Ultron put together(and that Thor is not actually around or something).

And Loeb.. so far nothing that he's ever said has impressed me or made me think he isn't a douche. I don't exactly like the dinosaurs thing(it doesn't seem to fit with SW powers, which I took as probability control in her favor), but then again I can't argue given past interpretations of Ultimate SW. And his speel about the incest thing, didn't much care for his approach on that in the whole. Just everything that Loeb says make me sigh in disgust. Bah, its so depressing, Ultimates 3 is just 5 issues right? So that means pretty much one more(4 gets released this week I believe). Yay!

[flapjaxx]

(4 gets released this week I believe). Yay!

Can anyone confirm this? When it didn't come out last week I assumed it was pushed back to this week too, but now I don't see it on any of the lists (like Diamonds). Marvel.com never updated anything and just left it at last week's date.

[Blader5489]

Can anyone confirm this? When it didn't come out last week I assumed it was pushed back to this week too, but now I don't see it on any of the lists (like Diamonds). Marvel.com never updated anything and just left it at last week's date.

It's been delayed to April 30th.

LMAO @ the pathetic duo of Loeb and MAD.

[Brian M.]

Leob loves himself too much. He should get over it, the little peckerhead.

Really? Insulting a man b/c of how he writes a comic book? You people need to get over yourselves. Attack the writing, not the man. Show some damn maturity.

[Shadow ES]

He was attacking how the man comes across in interviews, which seems like fair game to me.

The way Mad didn't even seem ashamed of not referencing previous Spider-man or Thor images before drawing them, or the way Loeb seems proud of not planning his stories is pretty unprofessional.

[Brian M.]

He was attacking how the man comes across in interviews, which seems like fair game to me.

The way Mad didn't even seem ashamed of not referencing previous Spider-man or Thor images before drawing them, or the way Loeb seems proud of not planning his stories is pretty unprofessional.

No, personal attacks on writers and artists are pathetic. It is so damn hard to decipher tone in an interview, most of the damn time they joke around and exaggerate stuff and bullshit with the audience. People have said some pretty cappy things about these two since this series came out and I'm so damn tired of reading it. You have a right to be critical to the story and the plot and whatever screw ups, but making it personal to the writer/artist is sad.

[Shadow ES]

So, how many times can a writer publish a poorly constructed / reseached story before I can say the man is unprofessional?

[spiderman_rj]

No, personal attacks on writers and artists are pathetic. It is so damn hard to decipher tone in an interview, most of the damn time they joke around and exaggerate stuff and bullshit with the audience. People have said some pretty cappy things about these two since this series came out and I'm so damn tired of reading it. You have a right to be critical to the story and the plot and whatever screw ups, but making it personal to the writer/artist is sad.

loebist scum !

[Radioactive Zombie]

Woah, there, RJ, no need for flaming.

And I'm agreeing with Brian.

[IronStarks]

"I got lazy and didn't put it in," Madureira admitted.

ugh starting to really not like him, even though i really like the way he draws hawkeye.

[MattXG]

"I thought that the idea that Magneto had created the dinosaurs didn't make a lot of sense to me," Loeb said. "I don't know how you set out to create mutants and make dinosaurs. They didn't have three heads, they were good lookin' dinosaurs. Pietro wasn't protective of Wanda because he thought someone would hurt her, he was protective of Wanda because she could hurt the world. She brought dinosaurs from the past, and showing how powerful she is."
Makes perfect sense to me.

[carabas]

"I thought that the idea that Magneto had created the dinosaurs didn't make a lot of sense to me," Loeb said. "I don't know how you set out to create mutants and make dinosaurs. They didn't have three heads, they were good lookin' dinosaurs.He didn't set out to create mutants. He set out to create dinosaurs. More specifically, he set out to recreate a paradise from before homo sapiens existed.
If anything, you'd expect dinos that were summoned up by an untrained sorcerer to be somewhat defective, have three heads, or breath fire and stuff.

[Blaqueneto]

He didn't set out to create mutants. He set out to create dinosaurs. More specifically, he set out to recreate a paradise from before homo sapiens existed.Exactly! I don't know where Loeb got the impression he set out to create mutants, and ended up with dinosaurs by mistake.

[carabas]

Also, for a writer, that's a really horribly misconstrued sentence.
"I thought that the idea ... didn't make a lot of sense to me."
Either use "I thought that the idea didn't make a lot of sense." or "The idea didn't make a lot of sense to me".
What he used isn't even proper English.

[desanth]

Jeez, delays in Ultimates3 #4.. if there are going to be delays I at least expect some quality shtuff. I doubt we[ll get that. Any reason given for the delays? I'd hope(seems unrealistic hope) that Marvel is making Loeb and Mad get their sh*t together before putting it out.. Otherwise I don't really see a reason for delays, I thought they had everything done a year ago(or at least a lot of it) or something and that the train of thought was that Ultimates3 wouldn't be as great as 1&2 but at least it'll get released on time. If it becomes a Wolv vs Hulk case, I wouldn't mind it disappearing and thought of not much.

[Beerman]

hope it gets cancelled... ultimates 3

[Superbeast]

It's been delayed to April 30th.

LMAO @ the pathetic duo of Loeb and MAD.

Wasn't it delayed in the first place to compensate for Mad's low work rate? What's sad is he even admits to cutting corners in his art in the interview in light of the fact they delayed Ultimates 3 for his sake. Even with extra time he has to use silhouetting as a way to save time the inker and colourist can then spend instead. Ethan Van Sciver puts him to shame.

[prodigy]

Loeb will always be the Don Imus of comics in my eyes.

He should just apologize profusely, promise to never ever do it again (write fiction), and move on.

Seriously. This guy is sitting there acting like he doesn't know what he did wrong. Like he's oblivious to the fact that the only people in the world who like what he's doing are just Beast and Brian M.

[alexr]

Man, if I had Madureira gig I wouldn't screw it up. Just pace myself and put out a bi-monthly book. Get a great paycheck, what's better thant that? The sad thing is I'll probably buy that pencil thing next month. It will look great.

[Superbeast]

Man, if I had Madureira gig I wouldn't screw it up. Just pace myself and put out a bi-monthly book. Get a great paycheck, what's better thant that? The sad thing is I'll probably buy that pencil thing next month. It will look great.

Mad himself said he cut corners on his own work and left it to the colourist to digitally ink it to tidy it up, would you buy a car if the salesman admitted it was a gas guzzler that was poorly made with cheap parts simply because the chassis was well styled?

[johnnystl34]

I was a huge Mad fan back in the day but you have to admit, he's lazy as Hell and we the consumer pay for it. His art is amazing and companies pay high dollar for it and everyone that duplicates it is labeled a copycat, therefore, he can afford to be lazy. Battle Chasers was one of the top selling comics every time it came out, yet it still wasn't enough for him. Of course the book is going to start being delayed, he can come out with a book every other year and people will still pay for it because it has the "MAD!" in the corner. It's sad.

[Blaqueneto]

What's so great about Mad's art, honestly? The storytelling is poor, and the weird, over-exaggerated proportions make for some ugly visuals.

[carabas]

What's so great about Mad's art, honestly?.Boobies. And manga art for people too wrapped up in superheres to buy actual manga.

[Superbeast]

What's so great about Mad's art, honestly? The storytelling is poor, and the weird, over-exaggerated proportions make for some ugly visuals.

Some people think eyes with no pupils and fangs so big it'd be impossible for the person to close their mouth are cool. If he toned down the splash pages he might actually stick to a deadline... then again maybe he just spends too much time playing PS3.

[desanth]

loebist scum !

I prefer to think that they've been Loebotomized, hence they protect Loeb and in extension Mad. It's like a personal z0mbi3 4rmy!:evilsmile
This way I can say to myself that they don't know any better and hope not to get bitten or Loebotomized myself :p

[Kid Kyoto]

It is so damn hard to decipher tone in an interview, most of the damn time they joke around and exaggerate stuff and bullshit with the audience.

Yeah cause what would a professional writer know about communicating tone in writing!

Oh...

Right.

[carabas]

I prefer to think that they've been Loebotomized, hence they protect Loeb and in extension Mad. It's like a personal z0mbi3 4rmy!Most of those that like it, like it for the art, not the writing. therefore, they are Mad.

[Slyfer]

Its True nothing is wrong with Leob, he is just Myopic when it comes to telling stories with great political tie ins and drama and suspense with more intrigue than Dallas and young and the restless :)

[Brian M.]

Yeah cause what would a professional writer know about communicating tone in writing!

Oh...

Right.

Did Loeb write this interview?

I must have missed that part.

[Brian M.]

Loeb will always be the Don Imus of comics in my eyes.

He should just apologize profusely, promise to never ever do it again (write fiction), and move on.

Seriously. This guy is sitting there acting like he doesn't know what he did wrong. Like he's oblivious to the fact that the only people in the world who like what he's doing are just Beast and Brian M.

Wow you really love to make stupid exaggerations in your posts don't you?

How's the petition coming by the way? Santa Claus sign it yet?

[Slyfer]

Laugh my black ass off

[Beast]

Wow you really love to make stupid exaggerations in your posts don't you?

How's the petition coming by the way? Santa Claus sign it yet?
Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, and even Jesus signed it. *Sagenods*

[Brian M.]

Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, and even Jesus signed it. *Sagenods*

If Jesus signed it then Jeph Loeb is screwed.

[desanth]

What does a petition have anything to do with the Loeb/Mad Ultimates interview? :confused: Sounds like you are trying to just avoid the arguement that Loeb and Mad suck. :D From the way they talked/how I read it, it sounded like Loeb and Mad were douchebags, but then again interviews can be misleading and those that aren't talented in giving them can often say things that can be misconstrued. :p

[Brian M.]

What does a petition have anything to do with the Loeb/Mad Ultimates interview? :confused: Sounds like you are trying to just avoid the arguement that Loeb and Mad suck. :D From the way they talked/how I read it, it sounded like Loeb and Mad were douchebags, but then again interviews can be misleading and those that aren't talented in giving them can often say things that can be misconstrued. :p

Yea, lot of people come off as douchebags online.

[Mr. Sam]

I really want to know what this "a lot" was that Millar and Loeb have in common with the direction of the Ultimates. Quite honestly, I don't see how a God like Mark Millar could think of anything like the atrocity that is Ultimates 3, his mind is too pure.

Can't wait to get jumped on for using hyperbole.

[prodigy]

Wow you really love to make stupid exaggerations in your posts don't you?

How's the petition coming by the way? Santa Claus sign it yet?

You still haven't come up with a single idea that Loeb could implement that would turn you off.

[Lombardo!]

if you think it's that horrible, dont read it?

what, do i gotta put it in a cat macro to get my message through?!

[Brian M.]

You still haven't come up with a single idea that Loeb could implement that would turn you off.

Was I suppose to?

Loeb's got plenty of ideas that turn me off. I dropped the Hulk recently. Not sitting through the boring story and delays.

[johnnystl34]

Does anyone think that the art seems blurry in in Ultimates 3? No inks works on Conan but not on this crap. Yes, it seems as though in the three issues that have come out, nothing has happened. An erroneous fight between Venom and the Ultimates, Captain America pretty much disappears. The storyline really isn't coming together like it should.

[Slyfer]

Maybe by some weird act of God Loeb will write something to shock us Further