Batman Gotham Knight - new animated movie

[trickster]

This looks cool. A new Batman Animated Movie:
http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Batman-Animated-Series-Gotham-Knight/9177

[Jack Zodiac]

Wow, yeah, that looks crazy. A collage of stories, like Batman's own "Animatrix?" I'm down.

[Jae Namkyoung]

Oh yeah, I saw this and while I'm not the biggest Anime fan around, this has got me. I am a big Batman fan and the Gotham Knight will be something I watch. I was excited to see Bruce Timm on the project, and the work looks awesome.

[Sean Walsh]

A press release has been put out, listing the cast - highlighted by Kevin Conroy.

I think you know who he plays. :) :) :)

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/36065

The cast also features Gary Dourdan (CSI - he plays Crispus Allen), Parminder Negra, George Newburn (JLU's Superman), Rob Paulsen, Corey Burton, Kevin Michael Richardson (The Batman's Joker, IIRC) and Will Friedle (Batman Beyond reunion!).

[the goddamn batman]

A press release has been put out, listing the cast - highlighted by Kevin Conroy.

I think you know who he plays. :) :) :)

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/36065


Lame.

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[jokersgiddygrin]

Man I wouldn't have been too happy if they had cast anyone BUT Kevin Conroy as the voice of Batman.

This looks quite cool. I'm not normally a huge fan of a Japanamation take on any western comics(and vice versa for that matter). But given Kia Asamiya's wonderful take on the Dark Knight I'm thinking this could work very well indeed.

Can't wait to see it.

[Batsmorrison]

This does look unbelievably sick! I am such a Kevin Conroy mark, it took till Season 4 of The Batman to warm up to the show. This is great news. Plus if you see the preview of this on the New Frontier DVD, the writers are really putting together some compelling stuff. The take on Deadshot as a Batman gone wrong as both parallels w/ Bruce/Floyd and Bats/Deadshot has got me pumped for this!! Not too sure about the take on Killer Croc though. I wonder who Will Friedle is going to voice though?

[Mr. Sam]

Wait, one of the directors has made Batman into, y'know, a literal bat/man hybrid? That has to be one of the stupidest ideas ever. There's different interpretations and there's changing your main character's species. Or it could be that villain I always forget the name of. Manbat or something. I'm going to look so stupid after posting this... or am I?

[vazel]

I was expecting Christian Bale as Batman. Hugh Jackman and Vin Diesel did the voices for the animated offshoots based on their theatrical movies. Although it'll be really nice to hear Kevin Conroy as Batman again that doesn't involve him being an old bitter geezer or as part of the Justice League.

[filthysize]

Wait, one of the directors has made Batman into, y'know, a literal bat/man hybrid? That has to be one of the stupidest ideas ever. There's different interpretations and there's changing your main character's species. Or it could be that villain I always forget the name of. Manbat or something. I'm going to look so stupid after posting this... or am I?

It is Manbat.

[Mr. Sam]

It is Manbat.

Boy is my face red. Well, thanks for that. They should make Batman an actual giant bat though. Just sayin'. The animation looks great, but was there a fat Batman in there? I've been wrong before.

[filthysize]

It is Fatman.

[spiderman_rj]

have a look, http://heroi.ig.com.br/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=6647&Itemid=0&catid=63

sorry the page is in portuguese,basically it says it will be released in dvd,and blu ray before dark knight hit the theathers.

and a trailer http://heroi.ig.com.br/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=6528&Itemid=17&catid=65

wow i just watched the trailer,did you noticed they used the same score with slight modification from the TAS series ? it rocks !

[metalhead_dave743]

Dude, we've all known about this for months. It's called Batman: Gotham Knight and there are plenty of sites that give off information about it in English.

[The Xenos]

Slowpoke a little? Yeah. This is really old news covered by various sites. They even have a preview on the recent New Frontier DVD movie/

Also, I'm gonna be Mr Snooty Fanboy and comment that there is no such thing as an anime format. The only anime related thing is that they have Japanese animations studios working on it.

[spiderman_rj]

sorry,not much of a batman follower,i stick to spiderman,and yes there is a anime,the animation stile is what defines it,and there is one short that is clearly draw in conventional anime design.

[The Xenos]

sorry,not much of a batman follower,i stick to spiderman,and yes there is a anime,the animation stile is what defines it,and there is one short that is clearly draw in conventional anime design.

No. You're wrong. There's never been a Spider-Man anime. Let me guess, you're one of the masses who ignorantly say that the Avatar and Teen Titans toons are anime. No, they're not. Anime is not a style. (It's not a 'stile' either.)

Anime = primarily animated by Japanese anime studios. There are hundreds of character designers working for those studios. Most of them have unique styles. You shouldn't just lump them together. To say that all anime designers look alike is a stereotype. I'd argue it is as bad as the one saying that all Japanese people look alike. I wonder if there is a connection myself.

There has been a live action Japanese Spider-man TV show and a Spider-Man manga. I have a volume, in Japanese, of the manga. It's by a favorite mangaka of mine. Marvel liscenced

Also, there's that Witchblade anime. Though I never cared for the comic and the anime looked pretty cliche with over the top female designs.

[metalhead_dave743]

No. You're wrong. There's never been a Spider-Man anime. Let me guess, you're one of the masses who ignorantly say that the Avatar and Teen Titans toons are anime. No, they're not. Anime is not a style. (It's not a 'stile' either.)

Anime = primarily animated by Japanese anime studios. There are hundreds of character designers working for those studios. Most of them have unique styles. You shouldn't just lump them together. To say that all anime designers look alike is a stereotype. I'd argue it is as bad as the one saying that all Japanese people look alike. I wonder if there is a connection myself.



Okay, I'm confused then... because if Teen Titans and Avitar aren't anime, what are they? I always thought since they were at least influenced by the Japanese animatons, calling it an "Anime Style" was suitable.

As far as the distinct styles the character styles of Japanese desi I notice pretty much the same thing in a lot of those cartoons, big eyes(well... most of them), overly exaggerated expressions, and rigid movement(which is all kind of a turn off for me). I'm not saying all those toons are alike, but they sure are similar.

Just help me out here because I'm a little intrigued.

[Earl of the RCs]

No. You're wrong. There's never been a Spider-Man anime. Let me guess, you're one of the masses who ignorantly say that the Avatar and Teen Titans toons are anime. No, they're not. Anime is not a style. (It's not a 'stile' either.)

Anime = primarily animated by Japanese anime studios. There are hundreds of character designers working for those studios. Most of them have unique styles. You shouldn't just lump them together. To say that all anime designers look alike is a stereotype. I'd argue it is as bad as the one saying that all Japanese people look alike. I wonder if there is a connection myself.

There has been a live action Japanese Spider-man TV show and a Spider-Man manga. I have a volume, in Japanese, of the manga. It's by a favorite mangaka of mine. Marvel liscenced

Also, there's that Witchblade anime. Though I never cared for the comic and the anime looked pretty cliche with over the top female designs.


I'd disagree and agree with both of you. In many ways the term Anime is just shorthand for Japanese Animation, which contains no less diverse an approach to story telling and illustration as does American Animation, but the presence of that diversity in no way precludes the idea of their being unified characteristics within the field that we ould call a `style'- but Id say the factors that distinguish Anime from American (or indeed much European) Animation has more to do with the relationships between: the figures and the background; the variation of drawing style between main characters within a single film (eg from `cartoony'- and therefor more iconic and relatable- protagonists to more deatailed- and therefore more foreign `otherly' looking- antagonists); different choices of frame to frame and scene to scene transitions- Western Films- both animated and live action, and comics for that matter- tend to use more `wide establishing shots' where as Japanese Anime and Live Film tend to use more tight viewed Aspect to Aspect establishing scenes; and, yes, `stilted action'- though Id define it as a different viewpoint upon movement where we see things, including movement lines, from the `eye of the beholder' rather than as an outside viewer in Anime (the motorcycle chase in Akira compared to say, the Horseride/chase from Disney's The Headless Horsemen is a perfect exaple of this distinction): and, well there are heaps more examples of what distinguishes Anime that has little to do with `big eyes' (which came into Anime via Manga via Tezuka via Walt Disney anyway) but the point is the word can be used, in context, to identify a `style' and while they're not Japanese Anime Id certainly say that many recent western animations- Including the Spiderman series in question- have been at least as strongly influenced by the Japanese as the American tradition to earn the honor of being called `Anime Style', to an extent (as long as what aspects of the style the person with the opinion is refering too is clarified).

Rant over.

[spiderman_rj]

No. You're wrong. There's never been a Spider-Man anime. Let me guess, you're one of the masses who ignorantly say that the Avatar and Teen Titans toons are anime. No, they're not. Anime is not a style. (It's not a 'stile' either.)

Anime = primarily animated by Japanese anime studios. There are hundreds of character designers working for those studios. Most of them have unique styles. You shouldn't just lump them together. To say that all anime designers look alike is a stereotype. I'd argue it is as bad as the one saying that all Japanese people look alike. I wonder if there is a connection myself.

There has been a live action Japanese Spider-man TV show and a Spider-Man manga. I have a volume, in Japanese, of the manga. It's by a favorite mangaka of mine. Marvel liscenced

Also, there's that Witchblade anime. Though I never cared for the comic and the anime looked pretty cliche with over the top female designs.


wow,way to go distorting completely what i said.i said THIS batman movie is a anime,i didnt say nothing about spiderman anime.

what makes a anime is both the type of the animation,japanese animation tends to be more mechanical or stylized,while american try to be more fluid,and the characters design,big eyes,the thin nose,etc,and facial expression tend to be more acentuated,of course this is not a rule of the thumb,but the majority is.

i have no idea what avatar is,and teen titan is a american animation,wich we call here animeh (anime+meh) becouse it tries to be a blend of anime and american animation,this type of animation is actually inspired by the french.

[Bat-Reader]

Batman GK looks great, i can't wait to watch.

[soylantgreen]

If it wasn't Batman, I probably wouldn't care - I'm not a big fan of all the "anime-inspired" stuff coming out lately - but since it IS Batman... gotta have it!

[The Xenos]

True, there are some characteristics to anime. In particular anime has made an art of taking short cuts. Yet the bigger budget anime, particularly movies, don't take as many and are more fluid.

Despite the appearance of character designs, I'd say that Avatar and Teen Titans are much more animated like American cartoons than anime.

For example, I recently saw some DVDs of the anime Air Gear. The animation was horrendous. I notice so many stills and animation short cuts. I'll stick to the manga on that one.

Meanwhile I have to criticize even a favorite series's budget cuts. Neon Genesis Evangelion has that infamous 2 minute still scene of two girls standing still in an elevator.

[Demosthenes]

I was watching a new anime movie I bought called "Appleseed Ex Machina" and I noticed a trailer in the beginning and it was a new batman cartoon. It is six different skits done by six different anime directors. They are all mini movies and the graphics look really nice. I was wondering if anyone knew when this would come out?

thank you all.

[metalhead_dave743]

Here you go buddy, all you need to know. And the thread is convientley located on the same page you posted on. ;)

http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=213718

[Choppa]

Isn't this the movie that bridges Nolan's moveis?

[Rattlehead]

Isn't this the movie that bridges Nolan's moveis?

Supposedly. I wouldn't expect it to be a strict contintuation of the movies though, especially considering it's being done by multiple creators. It's a cool project but I doubt it's going to have any monumental plot points.

[Choppa]

Supposedly. I wouldn't expect it to be a strict contintuation of the movies though, especially considering it's being done by multiple creators. It's a cool project but I doubt it's going to have any monumental plot points.

I meant, isn't this the same thing we've known about for months? I thought it might have been something else.

[Rattlehead]

I meant, isn't this the same thing we've known about for months? I thought it might have been something else.

Yes, it's the same one.

[spiderman_rj]

Meanwhile I have to criticize even a favorite series's budget cuts. Neon Genesis Evangelion has that infamous 2 minute still scene of two girls standing still in an elevator.

yah i watched air gear once.ugh,never again,the manga art is better anyway,and evangelion,well,then ran out of money in the end,thats why there was so many money save shortcuts as you say.
i didnt say fluid,watch akira,cowboy bebop or steamboy movie,they are fluid,but in a very mechanical way,i dont know if i am expressing myself right.

[Earl of the RCs]

This thread, within two short pages, is almost a rival for the `127 styles of martial arts' thread in terms of people posting without reading previous posts first! I love the internet!

[Captain Jim]

This thread, within two short pages, is almost a rival for the `127 styles of martial arts' thread in terms of people posting without reading previous posts first! I love the internet!

Well, actually, that's probably because I combined some threads that were all about the same topic (the new threads being unaware of the previous one). That's also why I finally renamed the original thread to include the words "new animated movie" so people would have a better idea of what it was about when they saw it in the thread index.

[TMM Writes Lego]

I hope it is going to be like Child of Dreams, that book was great, but by the look of it, it will probaly be stupid, I will still watch it for fun

[Earl of the RCs]

Well in that case, i'm quite the ignorant fellow then ain't I? But I still love teh internet. If it wasn't against all laws of god and man (and my wife), I'd marry it.

Ooh, on topic... I really like how they're using the animated medium in between films to tell some batman stories that may not work as well in live action (like Killer Croc.)

Makes more sense than the `random tales' we got for the Animatrix (that I still enjoyed more than the 2nd and 3rd movie's of course)

[metalhead_dave743]

New Trailer (http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1809997857/video/7356000)... awesome hearing Conroy's voice again.

[BatWing]

Wow. excellent trailer. Makes me want to see Dark Knight even more.

[Dorsai]

I saw the film on the New Frontier disc about this movie and was very interested. There are many things about Batman that seem to lend itself to making a great manga and anime character. From what I saw, I expect some very stylized and over the top action with incredible set designs and character designs. As someone else put it, this is very much a Batman Animatrix.

As far as parsing words and styles... Because the Japanese animate so many different subjects in so many different ways, it can be rather broad to simply label all animated Japanese films as anime and then claim they all have something in common (besides being animated). From what I can see, the Japanese do not limit a certain type of film to animated or live action. You can find some very good animated dramas, horror films, suspense films, and -- some of my favorites -- the "giant ninja robot bounty hunter space marine with the power to destroy a planet".

Just as with art or music, the style of Japanese entertainment is going to differ significantly from western entertainment. Sheesh...for a long time many Americans couldn't understand the fascination with Dr. Who so even among western cultures there is a wide disparity.

When I hear or read "Anime-style", I interpret that to mean animation with an influence of the Japanese animation studios. But that is still about the same as calling Brotherhood of the Wolf a film done in the "American Style" simply because it has a werewolf (never mind the French subtitles).

[Darkside]

Can't wait for this. Looks great!

[The Xenos]

Dorsai, thank you. Sometimes I feel like a lone loony trying to tell people to stop using the term 'anime style'. Yeah, it's just a broad generalization. This project itself shows that. There are a number of Batman shorts in this project and each of them has a different style. I like to point out that saying all anime looks alike is as bad a generalization as saying that all Japanese people look the same.

[Superboy-Prime]

I dunno, I think the notion of all anime being alike(in style) is true, theres like a 5% variation between them.


Anyways this movie is visually impressive, my biggest gripe is that female looking bruce wayne they have there.

[vazel]

What's wrong with saying something is anime or anime-like? The Japanese pioneered an economical style of doing animation which earned it its own name. You can certainly recognize anime when you see it. I think we all recognize anime is just a style of animation not a genre. No one is shoehorning anime into its own genre, there have been many great tv series and movies from diverse genres done in anime.

[Rabid Trekkie]

I saw the film on the New Frontier disc about this movie and was very interested. There are many things about Batman that seem to lend itself to making a great manga and anime character. From what I saw, I expect some very stylized and over the top action with incredible set designs and character designs. As someone else put it, this is very much a Batman Animatrix.

As far as parsing words and styles... Because the Japanese animate so many different subjects in so many different ways, it can be rather broad to simply label all animated Japanese films as anime and then claim they all have something in common (besides being animated). From what I can see, the Japanese do not limit a certain type of film to animated or live action. You can find some very good animated dramas, horror films, suspense films, and -- some of my favorites -- the "giant ninja robot bounty hunter space marine with the power to destroy a planet".

Just as with art or music, the style of Japanese entertainment is going to differ significantly from western entertainment. Sheesh...for a long time many Americans couldn't understand the fascination with Dr. Who so even among western cultures there is a wide disparity.

When I hear or read "Anime-style", I interpret that to mean animation with an influence of the Japanese animation studios. But that is still about the same as calling Brotherhood of the Wolf a film done in the "American Style" simply because it has a werewolf (never mind the French subtitles).

I wonder how much of the idea that all anime is similar comes from the kinds of anime that actually make it to America? I know studios like to stick with something they know will sell so maybe they bring over similar types of anime and thus us Americans get a false impression that everything is the same.

Oh and so this can remain on topic, I'm looking forward to seeing this movie almost as much as I am to see The Dark Knight.

[The Xenos]

As for the style thing, I have this older example of different manga styles.

http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/4995/mangastyletnpu1.jpg (http://img402.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mangastylelg5.jpg)

Though anime is a bit more streamlined for animation sake and homogeneous due to that very nature, I still think there are a variety of character designers with different styles.

Hell, this Batman anime alone has about four different studios on it. Even in this I think the character designs look vastly different from short to short. Hell, one of them even seems to be aping Bruce Timm's style a bit. So.. is Bruce Timm anime style? Is it now that some anime designer has imitated him? The whole concept is just a generalization. If people actually studied the artwork and thought about it even a bit more, I think they would realize it's mostly nonsense and shallow marketing.

[the goddamn batman]

Makes more sense than the `random tales' we got for the Animatrix (that I still enjoyed more than the 2nd and 3rd movie's of course)

Those were just exploring the idea of The Matrix itself, not the characters in the films. And thank god for that. I find the Animatrix to be far more interesting than the films. Perosnally.

Dorsai, thank you. Sometimes I feel like a lone loony trying to tell people to stop using the term 'anime style'. Yeah, it's just a broad generalization. This project itself shows that. There are a number of Batman shorts in this project and each of them has a different style. I like to point out that saying all anime looks alike is as bad a generalization as saying that all Japanese people look the same.

1. If people can say 'anime-style' and everyone knows exactly (or at least gets a general idea of what they can expect) what they mean... then it's a fine statement. Your'e taking offence where, realyl, in all reality, there isn't reason to do so.

2. It's not at all the same and it's nowhere near as bad.

As for the style thing, I have this older example of different manga styles.

http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/4995/mangastyletnpu1.jpg (http://img402.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mangastylelg5.jpg)


And yet, all of those are instantly recognisable as 'anime/manga-style'. Jack Kirby and Steve Ditko were very different artists, but both are american comic book-style artists.

There's really nothing wrong with people saying 'anime-style'. It's simply a distinction betweeen an American art style and a Japanese art style.

[Sean Whitmore]

2. It's not at all the same and it's nowhere near as bad.

Sure it's the same.

On crazy "cartoons are important!" world.

Or the Byrne Forum.


SEAN

[The Xenos]

Well considering artists make a living drawing these cartoons, yeah, I'd say they're pretty damn important. Even one of my roommates is an animation major. Plus I tend to keep track of the animation industry myself. In America, it's pretty terrible.

For example, America finally gets a decent series like Avatar and it's suddenly labeled anime by ignorant fans. That's awful if you ask me. Goes to show how bad American artists and animators have it.

Hell, just look at what Disney did to its 2D animators a while back. They shitcanned them all, out on the street. Thankfully Lassider was hired through the later Pixar merger and might have tried to get some of those people back, not sure, but the studio was decimated.

Anyway, it's pretty damn hypocritical to say it's crazy to think that cartoons are important on a comic book message board in a thread about a Batman cartoon.

[Sean Whitmore]

Anyway, it's pretty damn hypocritical to say it's crazy to think that cartoons are important on a comic book message board in a thread about a Batman cartoon.

Not to people who understand the difference between importance and fun.


SEAN

[The Batman]

How do you go from a quibble over a generalization of animation style to obvious racism and people losing their jobs? What kind of lack of persepctive does that take?

Also, just because somebody posts on a comic message board to talk about Batman doesn't mean that they think Batman is important. A lot of people are here just because it's fun.

[the goddamn batman]

Yeah, I don't think Batman is important at all. He's a fictional character whos stories I enjoy reading/watching from time to time.

And I'll never be able to put drawing styles on the same page as racism.

[The Batman]

Yeah, between that and sean and I posting very similar comments almost simultaneously, I'm baffled.

[vazel]

As for the style thing, I have this older example of different manga styles.

http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/4995/mangastyletnpu1.jpg (http://img402.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mangastylelg5.jpg)

Though anime is a bit more streamlined for animation sake and homogeneous due to that very nature, I still think there are a variety of character designers with different styles.

Hell, this Batman anime alone has about four different studios on it. Even in this I think the character designs look vastly different from short to short. Hell, one of them even seems to be aping Bruce Timm's style a bit. So.. is Bruce Timm anime style? Is it now that some anime designer has imitated him? The whole concept is just a generalization. If people actually studied the artwork and thought about it even a bit more, I think they would realize it's mostly nonsense and shallow marketing.
All of those images are easily identifiable in the anime/manga style. Of course no one expects every character to look the same(you're being too literal) but there is a style to anime. The fact that people can easily recognize anime when they see it denotes its own style. Just like you can recognize Tim Sale's style or Jack Kirby(and the people he influenced like Mark Buckingham or that Silver Surfer animated series).

As for Bruce Timm, it's his own style with the way that people associate the way his DCAU cartoons look with him. It deviates enough from anime to be called its own Bruce Timm style. I remember when Big O came out people were saying it looked more like Bruce Timm's animation than it did anime. In fact Big O was more popular with western audiences than it was with Japanese. And the animation studio that worked on Big O was one of the sudios that did animation for Batman:TAS which is what is thought to have influenced the style of Big O.

[The Xenos]

Well that kinda proves my point. If Big O is done in the style of Bruce Timm, does that not make it anime? I think it plays right into the race card. Believe me, Japan can be quite bigoted against foreigners. I don't think for a second their attitude that their animation is superior doesn't have at least a slight tinge or racism. Then again, now I'm generalizing and sounding nationalistic. Yet I can't help but wonder if some in the industry and audience there are a bit nationalistic themselves.

If Big O has an 'American' style, does that make it not anime? Is it not Japanese enough? Does that make it inferior? Is that why it didn't sell as well in Japan? Does that say something about Japan animation fans?

Calling something anime style is a generalization. It is based on nationality, Japanese. That certainly is tied into racism. Japan is one of the most homogenous countries in the world. Race and nationality is a very very interesting issue there.

Plus, having looked at various manga and anime artists, I've noticed the difference. I admit I used to think there was a manga style or, worse, an anime style. Then I started to read more of them and notice the difference. Now I can't say that they all look the same because I know better. I can see which artists influence which. Sometimes they're even influenced by American or European artists. I can spot different artists. To say that all anime and manga looks the same is a disservice to individual artists. If you know the artist, if you actually study styles you can see how one artist influences another.

Really how ridiculous is it to say that everyone from Japan draws the same. Is that not what is implied by anime style. I am dumbfounded that people can realize what they're saying and what the real world implications are involved. And yes, I still maintain that race plays a part in it.

Think about it. How would you feel if someone from Japan or Europe said that all American comics look the same. They said Kirby looks like Adams looks like Sale. Hell, they're not even educated enough to know those names. All Batman books look alike. It's just all American comic book style. How does that not sound ignorant?

Hell, this very Batman: Gotham Knight anime co-production proves the different styles within the same anthology.

[vazel]

http://webpages.charter.net/gvr/smileys/ugh.gif

[the goddamn batman]

Calling something anime style is a generalization. It is based on nationality, Japanese. That certainly is tied into racism.

No, it isn't.

Plus, having looked at various manga and anime artists, I've noticed the difference.

Oh... man congratulations.

Really how ridiculous is it to say that everyone from Japan draws the same.

How ridiculous is it that nobody's actually said that...? and yet, here we are.

Is that not what is implied by anime style.

No, it isn't.

[The Batman]

Plus, having looked at various manga and anime artists, I've noticed the difference. I admit I used to think there was a manga style or, worse, an anime style. Then I started to read more of them and notice the difference. Now I can't say that they all look the same because I know better. I can see which artists influence which. Sometimes they're even influenced by American or European artists. I can spot different artists. To say that all anime and manga looks the same is a disservice to individual artists. If you know the artist, if you actually study styles you can see how one artist influences another.




Except no one has said that all Japanese people draw the same, only that we can talk about an anime style because anime has some similarities within it.

And aren't these links of influence and visual language and technique between what appear to be, on the surface, vastly disparate pieces of work that you've mentioned the sorts of things that make those similarities and let us talk about an "anime style" much like we can call two different pieces of music that share the some similarities rock n' roll or two pieces of art that do the same American comic book art?

I mean, instead of knee jerk self-righteousness and implying that the people who don't agree with you and talk about "anime style" are kinda sorta racists (or was it just nationalists?) why not consider what people are actually saying?

[The Xenos]

Is that not what is implied by anime style.
How ridiculous is it that nobody's actually said that...? and yet, here we are.

I dunno. I keep hearing people talking about anime style. I even see whole marketing departments selling American books being sold as manga style or even, wow, 'global manga'. Instead of calling them comics or by the local name, the idiots at places like TokyoPop label them manga. Korean books? Eh, they're the same as Japanese. bam. Manga.

When you see crap like that going on, a red light should pop on that there is something fishy.

I dunno, I think the notion of all anime being alike(in style) is true, theres like a 5% variation between them

If people can say 'anime-style' and everyone knows exactly (or at least gets a general idea of what they can expect) what they mean... then it's a fine statement. Your'e taking offence where, realyl, in all reality, there isn't reason to do so.

So when people say anime style... What else could they mean? Explain that to me. What does anime style mean other than, anime looks similar. They are generalizing. Can you explain anything else?

I'm offended that people are using this phrase over and over again without even knowing what it means.

[Ein05]

I'm so sold on this. Already got the classics from the early '90s now I've gotta get this one!

[The Xenos]

It is being produced by Timm, so it's an extention of that in a way. Plus it's written by a bunch of current Batman writers.

[Thamuz]

This new animated movie actually look's awesome. The Anime/Manga style suit's it fairly well, in my mind.

Soooo, are we getting any of the classic evil villain's back?, aside from Killer Croc, Dead-Shot and Scarecrow?

[TMM Writes Lego]

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=28F40A682AD17D82
just a good playlist for this movie....