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Sean Walsh
03-16-2008, 07:18 AM
And it's not that ALL-STAR JLA book everyone's been thinking he was gonna be writing. It seems to be a very much DCU book.

From Newsarama:
http://www.newsarama.com/WWLA/08/DC/countdown.html

Robinson then announced that he's working on a new Justice League book called - wait for it - Justice League. "Hal Jordan decides that he wants a pro-active team," said Robinson. "They never go out and bring in people. This team will go after the equivalent of the FBI's most wanted list, sometimes in different countries, sometimes through time. It's a nice eclectic team of established teams and some oddball characters I've thrown in." Along with Hal Jordan, Robinson named Green Arrow as a member. When writing the two characters, Robinson said "I just imagine me and Geoff Johns talking to each other."

Robinson expanded on the lineup, naming Ray Palmer. "He's not The Atom, but he still has the costume, and he still shrinks," Robinson says. "That's not to say at some point he won't be The Atom but again, but for now, he's Ray Palmer."

Also on the team? Supergirl, Batwoman (DiDio: "Whoops, we weren't supposed to say that one. Just kidding!"), Freddy Freeman in "whatever name he's going to have" (which DiDio said was Shazam), and Starman. No, not the Jack Knight Starman that Robinson made famous in the '90s, but the blue, alien Mikaal Tomas Starman.

Robinson said the final member is an "old, 90-year-old man named Bill." "People are going to love this character by the time I'm done with him," Robinson said. The writer was about to name the artist, but no, DiDio cut him off and said they were going to hold off on that announcement.

"The difference is, the Justice League of America is all about the league, it's a family," said Robinson. "While this is about justice. It's all about bringing in the bad guys."

Let's see.....
- Hal leading a JLA team of his own
- Green Arrow's on it with him
- Ray Palmer
- Batwoman
- Mikaal is back
- James Freakin' Robinson writing a JLA series

What part of this do I NOT want to be a part of?!? :D

(PS: I can't believe this wasn't reported here already.....)

Chiroptera
03-16-2008, 07:46 AM
Hal!? Ollie?! BAtwoman in an on going?!
YES PLEASE.

It may not work out but I'm definitely gonna give this one a look!

Forefinger
03-16-2008, 07:52 AM
My only complaint is why have Mikaal as Starman? Jack Knight could return or the new Starman in JSA could be on that team.

Deus ex Chris
03-16-2008, 08:11 AM
This sounds fun, but I'd honestly prefer him on the regular Justice League series. It could really use him.

Bored at 3:00AM
03-16-2008, 08:33 AM
Given we've seem this exact premise used before in Extreme Justice and Outsiders and seen how horribly executed it can be, I really hope Robinson is bringing his A-game here.

However, it is nice to know Hal gets to continue being a member of the Justice League even though he's not a black guy.;)

Bored at 3:00AM
03-16-2008, 08:39 AM
My only complaint is why have Mikaal as Starman? Jack Knight could return or the new Starman in JSA could be on that team.

There's three reasons why they're using Mikaal:

1) Jack Knight got a nice send-off and perfect reason to retire, it doesn't make much sense to drag him back unless there's a compelling reason to. And if his own creator doesn't think there's a good reason to bring him back, I think I'll side with him.

2) The other Starman is doing just fine in JSA so there's no reason to pull him off that book just so he can be in this one. Plus, Geoff Johns loves writing him so much, he'd probably kill Robinson if he tried to steal him away.

3) The Mikaal Starman hasn't been used in anything since Robinson last used him and there's oodles of potential within the character to be explored. Another side benefit is that you bring in another gay hero into a high profile book.

Ilash
03-16-2008, 09:10 AM
Looks like I'm going to be reading a Justice League spinoff and not the main title itself. That's weird but this does look promising.

Jack Zodiac
03-16-2008, 10:57 AM
The idea puts me off. We already have a pretty mediocre book about this very same concept, and there've been several horrible books with the same concept in the past. The only thing interesting me here is James Robinson writing Hal Jordan. I'd probably stick with the book for the first arc just for that alone. I'll definitely check it out and hope for the best. Also, some word on an artist wouldn't hurt my enthusiasm, unless they tapped someone overrated or untalented.

a-spidey
03-16-2008, 11:29 AM
sounds not bad so far an the team line up is not bad imo.
I'll give it a chance and pick it up.

David Atkins
03-16-2008, 12:14 PM
Like I said in the thread down in YABS, I'm on board for Bill. :cool:

StarsAndGarters
03-16-2008, 12:23 PM
This sounds awesome, and I'm onboard, but... why do we need another Justice League book? Why not just put him on the main one?

David Atkins
03-16-2008, 12:47 PM
Because a second Justice League book means that there will be one that is not drawn by Benes, and hence accessible to certain people whom don't like his work? I hope? :)

Hawkman
03-16-2008, 01:16 PM
Between Robinson and the characters involved, it sounds like a winner to me. I don't understand the hesitation in naming an artist, though, unless they don't have one completely locked down yet. Either way, count me in on this one.
However, it is nice to know Hal gets to continue being a member of the Justice League even though he's not a black guy.;)
Heh, yeah. Hopefully this will calm some of the more rabid Hal fans/John haters.

MutoMikey
03-16-2008, 02:02 PM
Robinson, Hal & Ollie, and and Mikaal's back? Win.

Though I'd love to see Jack back, I'm extremely happy for this book!

princesa
03-16-2008, 02:50 PM
When they restarted the series I thought Hal Jordan, the Canary and Red Arrow should have started their own unit.

TotalWorldDomination
03-16-2008, 04:30 PM
Hals in it, I'm buying it, that's all.

Always Hungry
03-16-2008, 06:50 PM
Is this the reason they cancelled JLA Classified? To make room for James Robinson's book? If so it's a great choice!

drwho
03-16-2008, 07:03 PM
Roster sounds cool, but with all the ring stuff going on in Hal's own books I find it hard to believe he has time to have another super team. Also I thought Batman and the Outsiders filled this role. Is that getting canceled, or did I miss something?

Babylon23
03-16-2008, 07:07 PM
My only complaint is why have Mikaal as Starman? Jack Knight could return or the new Starman in JSA could be on that team.

The premise doesn't really sound like something Jack would be involved with, so Mikaal sounds like a better choice.

I don't understand the hesitation in naming an artist, though, unless they don't have one completely locked down yet. Either way, count me in on this one.

I think there was a rumour going around that Robinson would be working on a book with Neal Adams that featured Hal and Ollie. Maybe they're just waiting to make the big announcement.

Captain Jim
03-16-2008, 08:29 PM
I thought Batman and the Outsiders filled this role. Is that getting canceled, or did I miss something?

A fan saw similarities of the mission statements between the new Robinson Justice League and Batman and the Outsiders. "The Outsiders basically does whatever Batman wants them to do," clarified DiDio.

..........

Captain Jim
03-16-2008, 08:31 PM
The Mikaal Starman hasn't been used in anything since Robinson last used him

Really? I thought he'd been involved in some of the Rann/ Thanagar War stories.

Babylon23
03-16-2008, 08:45 PM
Here's a quote from Wondercon:

Didio: James, what do you think about Green Lantern?
Robinson: What, in the book we can't talk about?
Mike Carlin: Sounds like we should get Neal Adams to draw it.

Don't know if this was a joke or not.

Sean Whitmore
03-16-2008, 08:45 PM
I'll give it a shot when it comes out, even if nothing about the announcement excites me horribly. Especially not the bullshit "we're gonna be the proactive team" conceit.


SEAN

Sizzle
03-16-2008, 08:54 PM
Writer: jackpot
lineup: *yawn*

Too bad they can't get him on the regular JLA book.

Bored at 3:00AM
03-16-2008, 09:52 PM
Really? I thought he'd been involved in some of the Rann/ Thanagar War stories.

I didn't read any of those stories beyond the Dave Gibbon/Ivan Reis' mini, which I found completely forgettable, so it's entirely possible Mikaal was in there...

Hawkman
03-16-2008, 09:54 PM
Thanks for posting that info, Babylon. If it pans out, Adams' involvement would only add to my enthusiasm over the project.

Raker616
03-16-2008, 10:11 PM
Looks like DC finally got the message that JLA is boring and lame and people actually want a JLA where stuff happens from issue to issue. Hal leading the team is of course an instant buy from me but pairing him up again with Ollie and Ray is also a great addition. Now if they can just get a top artist like George Perez on the title, this would be an amazing contrast to the current JLA because even Benes's art is average at best.

Ogre U AHole
03-17-2008, 08:39 AM
I hate almost every character in the line-up (the ones I don't, I'm not familiar with) and I'm kind of happy for this book. Put characters I don't want to read about (Hal, Ollie, Supergirl, and Batwoman) in one book so I may per chance not have to deal with them in ones featuring characters I do care about.

Now, if they'd just kick BatGod out of the JLA...

Sean Walsh
03-17-2008, 01:22 PM
New interview with Robinson over at Newsarama...

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=150409

...and he reveals who the "90 year old man" of the team is that he mentioned this weekend at WWLA:

CONGORILLA.

Dang. :D

Shazam69
03-17-2008, 04:59 PM
New interview with Robinson over at Newsarama...

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=150409

...and he reveals who the "90 year old man" of the team is that he mentioned this weekend at WWLA:

CONGORILLA.

Dang. :D

He also mentions that Freddy Freeman might have the blue suit. He probably will be called Shazam, but at least this leaves the red suit for Billy.

Mike

jv2k
03-17-2008, 05:32 PM
I was more excited by this:
The next question, for Cooke - any plans to return to The Spirit? "It was a lot of fun, but you're under a lot of pressure to reach a standard you simply can't," answered Cooke, speaking of trying to live up to Will Eisner's legacy. He then indicated he had a great deal of fun with the character, and seemed confident he'll return to him at some point.

Bored at 3:00AM
03-17-2008, 08:25 PM
I was a little skeptical till I found out who Bill was.

I'm in. I adore that character.

Alex Smith
03-18-2008, 01:02 AM
Sounds like it could be interesting. I wasn't reading DC whenever this was tried in the past, so I don't know about its apparent colossal failure, so I'll be giving this a shot for sure. Either way, the best part is anything and everything Jonah Hex related.

titanfan
03-18-2008, 10:13 AM
Wow, after the debacle that was Starman #35, the last thing I want James Robinson writing is a B-List Justice League again. I'd pretty much read anything of his but a Justice League tie in title.

WorstThingUS
03-18-2008, 01:16 PM
However, it is nice to know Hal gets to continue being a member of the Justice League even though he's not a black guy.;)

A wink doesn't make this statement any less offensive.

And wasn't this the premise of The Outsiders when it was restarted? And abandoned almost immediately? Not to mention being an odd metatextual commentary on the failure of pretty all the other team books? And it's doomed to failure, because they aren't really going to let them track down and imprison near genocidal villains like Black Adam and Chesire, who have murdered millions and apparently aren't worth the time to track down.

Joe Franklin
03-18-2008, 03:01 PM
the "90 year old man" of the team is that he mentioned this weekend at WWLA:

CONGORILLA.

Dang. :D

I like 1950's obscure characters, so I'm happy with this choice. Who doesn't like gorillas?

Sean Whitmore
03-18-2008, 03:44 PM
A wink doesn't make this statement any less offensive.

The fact that it's not offensive to begin with makes it less offensive.


SEAN

PastePotPete
03-18-2008, 05:10 PM
A wink doesn't make this statement any less offensive.

And wasn't this the premise of The Outsiders when it was restarted? And abandoned almost immediately? Not to mention being an odd metatextual commentary on the failure of pretty all the other team books? And it's doomed to failure, because they aren't really going to let them track down and imprison near genocidal villains like Black Adam and Chesire, who have murdered millions and apparently aren't worth the time to track down.

Yeah, it's not offensive at all.

I thought the Outsiders were pretty pro-active. I didn't like the book cuz Winick wrote it and I hate his stuff.

And not to pick you apart point for point, but just because they introduce a new team book it doesn't necessarily count as a metatextual comment on the the failure of other team books. Justice Society is great. Although I do agree that the current Justice League of America is weak weak weak.

Robinson is not a guaranteed A+ with me. I do like his work on Starman but that's one run and it was a while back. Chris Claremont had arguably the best run in all of superhero comics with Uncanny X-men and his stuff stinks now. I'll try this book, I'm just saying it's not a guaranteed hit.

One thing I like - they're doing the pro-active heroes, but without extremifying and badassifying the group like they did with past pro-active teams. This should be interesting...

Madrox84
03-18-2008, 05:14 PM
Cool news, sounds a lot better than Justice League of America...

I'll probably give it a chance.

nj06
03-18-2008, 10:02 PM
"Will be seeing Superboy or Bart Allen?" The panel played dumb and neglected to answer.

I know this is slightly off-topic, but do you guys think that this means that at least one of them will be coming back or that neither of them will return? I hope that Superboy returns.

comicstar100
03-18-2008, 10:27 PM
Does anyone remember the JLE? Hal lead that team as well. Not bad book by any means but nothing amazing.

The Shadow
03-19-2008, 02:47 AM
Here's a quote from Wondercon:

Didio: James, what do you think about Green Lantern?
Robinson: What, in the book we can't talk about?
Mike Carlin: Sounds like we should get Neal Adams to draw it.

Don't know if this was a joke or not.

... DAMN... this better not be a tease... even if it's only for one arc I would be in heaven!

I'd prefer Adams back on a Batman book though :)

Bored at 3:00AM
03-19-2008, 04:25 AM
A wink doesn't make this statement any less offensive.

Oh, please.

Get over yourself.

COMIC GEEK
03-19-2008, 04:30 AM
I'll check it out, but it reminds me of 3 titles as some have stated as well here

1- The Outsiders

2- extreme justice

3- justice elite

Notahiro
03-19-2008, 05:40 AM
I'll check it out, but it reminds me of 3 titles as some have stated as well here

1- The Outsiders

2- extreme justice

3- justice elite

Additionally, aren't Green Arrow and Batgirl already on the *&#* Outsiders?!? We just saw their 'dispute resolution' in the last issue. Might as well call this title Hal Jordan and the Outsiders ....

Just put Hal back on the real JLA where he belongs.

COMIC GEEK
03-19-2008, 07:15 AM
They are saying hal forms this team in a result of a past or present leaguer dying in final crisis.

speculation --maybe dinah, but then wouldnt ollie form the team instead of hal.

martian manhunter is another possibility

Libaax
03-19-2008, 07:27 AM
Man i have never read Jack Knight and i wanted to see who he was in this series just cause he is related Manhunter(Kate Spencer)

Maybe Marc will make him appear in Manhunter series.

I havent read Robinson, so i dont know if he has a good record or not with these kind of comics but there is a 50% chance i will pick this cause of Freeman.

I like anything Shazam, shame there isnt a series about Captain Marvel or Freddy.

WorstThingUS
03-19-2008, 09:58 AM
The fact that it's not offensive to begin with makes it less offensive.


SEAN

Thank you for determining for me what I find offensive. Next, tell me what foods taste good.

COMIC GEEK
03-19-2008, 10:09 AM
Thank you for determining for me what I find offensive. Next, tell me what foods taste good.

those nyc hot dogs taste good, until you get home and then your on the toilet for like an hr or so

Bored at 3:00AM
03-19-2008, 10:24 AM
Thank you for determining for me what I find offensive. Next, tell me what foods taste good.

Then go right ahead and be offended then, but keep in mind that I think John Stewart is a better choice for the JLA's resident GL than Hal is and I have said so repeatedly in the past. However, I'm also well aware that John is in the League because it needed some much needed racial diversity. The fact that John also happens to be a great character is a side benefit.

Lex
03-19-2008, 10:59 AM
There are things about this project that I like and hate. I like that he's using great characters like Congorilla and that Starman. I hate that it sounds like he's using Freddy Freeman and not ignoring that painfully horrible Trial of Shazam! series. I don't care if it's in continuity, I just want it ignored like it never happened.

Notahiro
03-19-2008, 01:18 PM
They are saying hal forms this team in a result of a past or present leaguer dying in final crisis.


I guess it was too much to hope that we could go through a crisis without a major character dying .... 'now nothing will ever be the same!!!' *sigh*

I hate that it sounds like he's using Freddy Freeman and not ignoring that painfully horrible Trial of Shazam! series. I don't care if it's in continuity, I just want it ignored like it never happened.

Am I the only one that liked that series?

Sean Whitmore
03-19-2008, 01:38 PM
Thank you for determining for me what I find offensive. Next, tell me what foods taste good.

Hamburgers.

And you can FIND anything offensive. You can be offended by a tree. Doesn't make the tree offensive.


SEAN

COMIC GEEK
03-19-2008, 01:41 PM
Then go right ahead and be offended then, but keep in mind that I think John Stewart is a better choice for the JLA's resident GL than Hal is and I have said so repeatedly in the past. However, I'm also well aware that John is in the League because it needed some much needed racial diversity. The fact that John also happens to be a great character is a side benefit.


I rather have seen guy gardner as the jla's gl

Joe Franklin
03-19-2008, 01:44 PM
And you can FIND anything offensive.

SEAN

I have never found large round soft pillowy boobs in my face to be offensive.:D

Joe Franklin
03-19-2008, 01:44 PM
I rather have seen guy gardner as the jla's gl

Same here brother.:cool:

titanfan
03-19-2008, 01:51 PM
I rather have seen guy gardner as the jla's gl

If you're a writer, I would have to think that this is would likely be your #1 choice too, if only because of what he does to team dynamics.

(It's just the 'how do you get on him on the team when Hal and John are there?) sort of question.

Libaax
03-20-2008, 12:24 AM
There are things about this project that I like and hate. I like that he's using great characters like Congorilla and that Starman. I hate that it sounds like he's using Freddy Freeman and not ignoring that painfully horrible Trial of Shazam! series. I don't care if it's in continuity, I just want it ignored like it never happened.


I hope and wish they start to ignore that horrible series !!

The Shadow
03-20-2008, 01:09 AM
I have never found large round soft pillowy boobs in my face to be offensive.:D

Same here! :D

OzBat!
03-20-2008, 01:43 AM
1- The Outsiders

2- extreme justice

3- justice elite

Annnnnnd Justice League Task Force, wayyy back before it got taken over by all of Priests' cancelled series characters.

steve2275
03-22-2008, 10:56 AM
if they keep the team members seperate from jla ill get this

SUPERECWFAN1
03-22-2008, 05:54 PM
Oliver Queen returns finally to the DCU !


THANK GOD. I have huge faith in James Robinson. He'll actually make me happy to read Oliver Queen for the 1st time in years.

MutoMikey
03-22-2008, 05:56 PM
Really? I thought he'd been involved in some of the Rann/ Thanagar War stories.

I'm almost sure that was Prince Gavyn, Jim.
Thought I'd help. :D

kello
03-22-2008, 06:06 PM
Doesn't anybody think the inclusion of Supergirl is odd? She seems out of place to me, but I haven't read much about her.

MutoMikey
03-22-2008, 06:12 PM
Doesn't anybody think the inclusion of Supergirl is odd? She seems out of place to me, but I haven't read much about her.


Well, maybe the thought behind it was that they needed a power house that only a kryptonian could be.

sschroeder
03-22-2008, 06:39 PM
Doesn't anybody think the inclusion of Supergirl is odd? She seems out of place to me, but I haven't read much about her.

I know this isn't directly relevant, but Supergirl and Green Arrow worked together often on the Justice League Unlimted animated series, so people might want to explore that on the comics end of things.

Sean Whitmore
03-22-2008, 09:36 PM
I know this isn't directly relevant, but Supergirl and Green Arrow worked together often on the Justice League Unlimted animated series, so people might want to explore that on the comics end of things.

That could be interesting. Seeing as how Supergirl has a more adversarial relationship with Superman (or at least she did last I knew), it might be fun to see her naturally gravitate towards someone with a less-than-sterling reputation as a mentor.


SEAN

Raker616
03-22-2008, 09:45 PM
Supergirl worked great alonside Hal in Brave And The Bold, i'm looking forward to them working together again in this Justice League.

Kage Kisaragi
03-23-2008, 04:43 AM
and here we go with the start of multiple justice leagues...

You know I've just recently started buying a lot of Outsider trades and this "Proactive Justice League" which I don't know, doesn't sound like any particular motto of the league that I've heard of. Seems like it's ripping from the Outsiders and their whole proactive stitch. Two characters being teamed up with Hal immediately strike me as not surprising, as in the "I Luv Hal" type of not surprising on the writers part. It wasn't do long ago that the Brave and the Bold issue with Hal and Kara was praised as being good, (I haven't read it myself as I refuse to read anyone other than Kelly's or Loeb's Supergirl.) So this seems to fit the Hal wanking. Then Green Arrow is the other, now I'm no fan of Ollie or Hal but I don't hate the characters but I do recall people pointing out about the olden days with these two playing liberal and the conservative which makes me think this is all gonna be a repeat of yesteryear.

Batwoman, You mean they didn't let this character die yet? The hardass lesbian role isn't really in high demand I would think. :rolleyes: Wait it just occurred to me, Hal is gonna use his pimp powers to sex her and make her uh.. not so hardass, and probably not so .... anyway.

Kage Kisaragi
03-23-2008, 04:49 AM
That could be interesting. Seeing as how Supergirl has a more adversarial relationship with Superman (or at least she did last I knew), it might be fun to see her naturally gravitate towards someone with a less-than-sterling reputation as a mentor.


SEAN

No, under her current title she is totally sub servant to him. Before then I wouldn't say she had a adversarial relationship with him she loves him in a positive way but prior to the end phantom zone ghost thingy she couldn't trust herself around him. Her daddy issues shouldn't reflect on her relationship with Kal.

Lupek
12-24-2008, 01:47 PM
DD: Absolutely. There were a lot of circumstances in building that project – coming out of Final Crisis, as well as assembling the other Justice League team, and also the speed in which the issues were being created. As of right now, it’s not on our schedule, and we’re reviewing the best time to put it out."


http://www.newsarama.com/comics/120824-DiDio.html

Does anyone think that sounds fishy? it's been a while since it was first hyped. At this point, why wouldn't they know when they are going to put it out?

Raker616
12-24-2008, 02:28 PM
I can't even begin to describe my disgust with DC at the momment, all my hopes now are squarely put on Flash Rebirth being out in April if it's not that might just be my breaking point with DC for good.

Mat001
12-25-2008, 12:28 PM
http://www.newsarama.com/comics/120824-DiDio.html

Does anyone think that sounds fishy? it's been a while since it was first hyped. At this point, why wouldn't they know when they are going to put it out?

Because of the delays to "Final Crisis" and all the changes that are going on with Supergirl, Batwoman, Hal Jordan and Oliver Queen. These characters have a solo series and ongoing changes that need to be reflected in the scripts. Also, there might have been a change in artist on the book.