Ulitmatum Picture

[hunter_peterson]

Jeph Leob did an interview on CBR and this pic was in it. All he had to say about Ultimatum is that "the hand in the picture is destroying the Ultimate Universe." No information on whose hand, but any way.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/preview2.php?image=cons/wwla2008/cupojeph/ULTMTMpreview_colv4.jpg

DISCUSS.

[Blader5489]

Actually, Loeb said the hand is Magneto's.

[CmX]

When does this start up in the fall ?

[BeastieRunner]

They're ending the Ultimate Line? Why!?

[Nick MB]

They're ending the Ultimate Line? Why!?

Where does it say that?

[Angelus II]

Actually, Loeb said the hand is Magneto's.

I don't see how that hand is Magneto's--the arm black and white.

Yeah, I'm calling Loeb a liar.

[Evil-Spidey]

They're ending the Ultimate Line? Why!?

What are you talking about?

[rwsmith]

It is Magneto's hand. That's what his gauntlets look like on his new Ultimate costume. I think it's safe to say that we now know that he's the one who throws down the Ultimatum, which is cool IMO. After all, he seems to the be the #1 villain in the Ultimate Universe and is in fact the whole reason that the Ultimates were put together.

Having said that, I would like to see Doom take more of a high-profile role in this event as well. He has always kind of been the #1 villain in the 616 Marvel Universe, so it would be nice to see him become more of a threat in the Ultimate U as well.

Regardless, with Dave Finch doing the artwork I will definitely be checking this out. I just hope it's better than Ultimates 3.

[Blaqueneto]

So Magneto is going to attempt to destroy the UU? just like he tried to do before? what happened to a new plan, Erik??? Magneto doing the same thing again, and written by Loeb to boot....sigh. I'll just wait for more details. Hopefully there's something more interesting to it than that.

[Evil-Spidey]

"No more humans."

[BeastieRunner]

Where does it say that?

What are you talking about?

I was being facetious since I figured there'd be a ton more people screaming "don't destroy the UU!"

[Netley]

"No more humans."

Ahahaha good one!

I'm still skeptical about the story/recent-Loeb, but damn, that is one sweet piece of Finch artwork!!! Is he drawing the series???

[Blader5489]

Ahahaha good one!

I'm still skeptical about the story/recent-Loeb, but damn, that is one sweet piece of Finch artwork!!! Is he drawing the series???

Yeah. Finch's art is the only thing I'm looking forward to about this story.

[Netley]

Yeah. Finch's art is the only thing I'm looking forward to about this story.

Sweet, I was wondering what he's been up to! Do you think he'll ever return to New Avengers? Perhaps after SI, or even maybe one of the NA Skrull-replace-flashbacks?

[prodigy]

Having said that, I would like to see Doom take more of a high-profile role in this event as well. He has always kind of been the #1 villain in the 616 Marvel Universe, so it would be nice to see him become more of a threat in the Ultimate U as well.
Nope.

That'd suck because the Ultimate U is completely separate from 616 and that's how it SHOULD be.

If I want 616 then I'll read 616.

[ThePhenom]

It is Magneto's hand. That's what his gauntlets look like on his new Ultimate costume. I think it's safe to say that we now know that he's the one who throws down the Ultimatum, which is cool IMO. After all, he seems to the be the #1 villain in the Ultimate Universe and is in fact the whole reason that the Ultimates were put together.

Since when are his gauntlets black and white? USM119 had him with buckle gloves, he had his typical costume in UXM last I remember and his purple gloves in the Ultimates 3.

[ThePhenom]

Edit: Accident.

[ThePhenom]

Edit: Accident.

[Evil-Spidey]

I haven't followed any other titles than USM in the latest time, did Ultimate Doom come back from the Marvel Zombie universe or is he still stuck there?

[Netley]

I haven't followed any other titles than USM in the latest time, did Ultimate Doom come back from the Marvel Zombie universe or is he still stuck there?

That's a good question! I haven't read any of Carey's run and, having dropped UXM a while back, I don't read any other Ultimate book other than USM (unless it's by Ellis or Card haha). Anyway, that's a good question, that's my point. Ultimate Doom. (Ha I just had a flash of that Greg Land picture of him on his throne surrounded by the Marvel Zonmbies. That image was so new-seeming then haha.)

[hunter_peterson]

Yeah, surely Magneto hasn't got stripy gaunlets and mechanical parts. Hmmm... I don't have the picture, but can someone check Onslaught/Strife? All I can think of.

[Angelus II]

It is Magneto's hand. That's what his gauntlets look like on his new Ultimate costume. I think it's safe to say that we now know that he's the one who throws down the Ultimatum, which is cool IMO. After all, he seems to the be the #1 villain in the Ultimate Universe and is in fact the whole reason that the Ultimates were put together.

I didn't see magneto's gauntlets. Anyone got a pix?

[Gloom Cookie]

Interesting, but I'm a little skeptical about how this series will go. I haven't been too impressed with Loeb's writing lately.

[rwsmith]

Since when are his gauntlets black and white? USM119 had him with buckle gloves, he had his typical costume in UXM last I remember and his purple gloves in the Ultimates 3.

They're not. They're red and purple:

http://www.marvel.com/universe3zx/images/thumb/2/2e/MagnetoUltimate442.JPG/440px-MagnetoUltimate442.JPG

The light coming from the exploding planet Earth just makes them appear to be black and white in that image. Loeb even said at the end of the panel that it was indeed Magneto's hand:

http://www.newsarama.com/WWLA/08/Marvel/Jeph/ultmtmpreview_colv4.jpg

Oh, and, Hunter Peterson, there are no mechanical parts. I think you're getting confused buy Ultimate Iron Man's legs.

[Animalia]

The Ultimate Universe is going to be completely destroyed.
It's about time ;)

[IAMFuzzy]

Jeph Leob did an interview on CBR and this pic was in it. All he had to say about Ultimatum is that "the hand in the picture is destroying the Ultimate Universe." No information on whose hand, but any way.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/preview2.php?image=cons/wwla2008/cupojeph/ULTMTMpreview_colv4.jpg

DISCUSS.
I bet it's Jeph Leob's hand. :D

[Shadow ES]

Having said that, I would like to see Doom take more of a high-profile role in this event as well. He has always kind of been the #1 villain in the 616 Marvel Universe, so it would be nice to see him become more of a threat in the Ultimate U as well.


I like that they're different.

Spider-man's on the cover, but he's not involved in the ultimatum, is he?

[Peeps]

why does it look like a celestial to me?

[Netley]

I bet it's Jeph Leob's hand. :D

Man that is truly a good call. If he were the villain of his own series that would be awesome!

[hunter_peterson]

I don't see where he says that, and I dont believe that it's the explosion causing that. That doesn't fit with the quaility of the other art on the cover. New glove.

Although I didn't see Iron Man before, I'm sure that's not Magneto's hand (although I' sure he's involved).

[Angelus II]

They're not. They're red and purple:

http://www.marvel.com/universe3zx/images/thumb/2/2e/MagnetoUltimate442.JPG/440px-MagnetoUltimate442.JPG

The light coming from the exploding planet Earth just makes them appear to be black and white in that image. Loeb even said at the end of the panel that it was indeed Magneto's hand:

http://www.newsarama.com/WWLA/08/Marvel/Jeph/ultmtmpreview_colv4.jpg

Oh, and, Hunter Peterson, there are no mechanical parts. I think you're getting confused buy Ultimate Iron Man's legs.

That's the same thing I saw. There no black and white on Magneto, and another thing--how is Magneto 10 times bigger than Dazzler. The last time I check Magneto didn't have the power to grow 10 times bigger.

[ThePhenom]

That's the same thing I saw. There no black and white on Magneto, and another thing--how is Magneto 10 times bigger than Dazzler. The last time I check Magneto didn't have the power to grow 10 times bigger.

You didn't assume it was metaphorically big?

[Angelus II]

You didn't assume it was metaphorically big?

That will only be the case if it the front cover.

Could be a new threat to both universe.

It looks like Ultimate Spider-Man will appear in the Amazing Spider-Man.

[QUOTE=ZT4;6516032]http://www.marvel.com/i/content/st/2854new_storyimage5515563_full.jpg

[ThePhenom]

That will only be the case if it the front cover.

I figured it was, seems very much like a cover.

[Plym]

That will only be the case if it the front cover. Which it clearly is.

[Vapour Trail]

OMG I just read this about Ultimatum on the net. It's an interview with Loeb. Here's a quote:

"OK, so Ultimatum boils down to the repercussions that take place when Magneto finds out he has a new power that he never knew existed. I really wanted to call it "Ultimatium: Big" like my color books, but everyone thought Ultimatum was ultimately (no pun intended) more marketable. See he can now grow really big, so big in fact that the earth is the size of his fist. Of course he immediately crushes the earth, and the heroes now have to deal with the aftermath of floating into space and bumping into each other. I spoke with Mark (Millar) and we laughed because this was the direction he was taking the Ultimates in. The story starts in the middle, with everyone just floating there and then little details will be revealed. It's a mystery. You're not putting this on the web are you?"

[ThePhenom]

OMG I just read this about Ultimatum on the net. It's an interview with Loeb. Here's a quote:

"OK, so Ultimatum boils down to the repercussions that take place when Magneto finds out he has a new power that he never knew existed. I really wanted to call it "Ultimatium: Big" like my color books, but everyone thought Ultimatum was ultimately (no pun intended) more marketable. See he can now grow really big, so big in fact that the earth is the size of his fist. Of course he immediately crushes the earth, and the heroes now have to deal with the aftermath of floating into space and bumping into each other. I spoke with Mark (Millar) and we laughed because this was the direction he was taking the Ultimates in. The story starts in the middle, with everyone just floating there and then little details will be revealed. It's a mystery. You're not putting this on the web are you?"

Yeah, I read the interview too, I recall later on he said that the Earth being larger than bodily masses didn't make sense to him and that's why he retconned it.

[Oblivion87]

So were finally gonna see ult. Magneto's new scheme, I wonder how this is gonna change things in the UU?

[IAMFuzzy]

Is that hand really destroying the Earth or is it keeping it together?

sings "He's got the whole world in His hands".

[spiderman_rj]

if there is a hand destroying the ultimate universe,its obviously LOEB's

[desanth]

I bet it's Jeph Leob's hand. :D

I swear to god, first thing that popped into my mind.

Man that is truly a good call. If he were the villain of his own series that would be awesome!

I agree, if he were to make an Ultimate Jeph Loeb and get pulverized/eaten by Ultimate Hulk, I'd forgive him for Ultimates3.

[MattXG]

lol

Art's awesome!

I bet Magneto might start Ultimatum but I bet there's something BIGGER behind the Ultimatum.

Also, Loeb said "this will be like Age of Apocalypse but things won't switch back."

Also, can we PLEASE get Wolverine back into his old Ultimate outfit? I liked it soo much more than this new one. :(

[Ramirez IV]

OMG I just read this about Ultimatum on the net. It's an interview with Loeb. Here's a quote:

"OK, so Ultimatum boils down to the repercussions that take place when Magneto finds out he has a new power that he never knew existed. I really wanted to call it "Ultimatium: Big" like my color books, but everyone thought Ultimatum was ultimately (no pun intended) more marketable. See he can now grow really big, so big in fact that the earth is the size of his fist. Of course he immediately crushes the earth, and the heroes now have to deal with the aftermath of floating into space and bumping into each other. I spoke with Mark (Millar) and we laughed because this was the direction he was taking the Ultimates in. The story starts in the middle, with everyone just floating there and then little details will be revealed. It's a mystery. You're not putting this on the web are you?"

Ha. Ahaahah.

Kirkman did a rubbish Apocalypse (well...so far), Ellis...misjudged? Galactus. I can't really think of a threat big enough to kickstart Ultimatum. That said, the line did start out being more realistic and grounded, so I have no problem with Magneto returning and chucking stuff about. Just don't give him the power cosmic or anything. Captain Universe, no.

Maybe it'll be the Beyonder. Or Howard the Duck. Or Stan Lee reorganising the Ultimates line into the 60s 616.

[Ramirez IV]

That will only be the case if it the front cover.

Could be a new threat to both universe.

It looks like Ultimate Spider-Man will appear in the Amazing Spider-Man.

[QUOTE=ZT4;6516032]http://www.marvel.com/i/content/st/2854new_storyimage5515563_full.jpg


Also... what the hell is this? It can't be Ultimate Spider Man, can it? That would be so... so awful. But the other alternative is Clone Saga 2... Rock and a hard place.

[MattXG]

[QUOTE=Angelus II;6525749]That will only be the case if it the front cover.

Could be a new threat to both universe.

It looks like Ultimate Spider-Man will appear in the Amazing Spider-Man.




Also... what the hell is this? It can't be Ultimate Spider Man, can it? That would be so... so awful. But the other alternative is Clone Saga 2... Rock and a hard place.
LOL.

It isn't Ultimate Spider-Man.

[Froggy]

ULTIMATE KANG=MAGNETO?:eek:

[desanth]

[QUOTE=Ramirez IV;6543745]
LOL.

It isn't Ultimate Spider-Man.

It'd be funny if it was and USM commented/ranted on about BND-SM's life:
You live with your Aunt, have no girlfriend, and have a dead-end job? Wow, I'm so glad this is an alternate reality and not the future.

[Slyfer]

Is Leob writing ULTIMATUM ?

[ThePhenom]

Is Leob writing ULTIMATUM ?

Unfortunately, yes.

[Angelus II]

[QUOTE=Ramirez IV;6543745]
LOL.

It isn't Ultimate Spider-Man.

http://www.marvel.com/catalog/?id=8934

Let hope so.

[Slyfer]

Unfortunately, yes.

GOOD LORD HEAVEN FORBID NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

http://www.andrew.cmu.edu/user/ayj/vader-nooooo.jpg

[Omega Alpha]

Having said that, I would like to see Doom take more of a high-profile role in this event as well. He has always kind of been the #1 villain in the 616 Marvel Universe, so it would be nice to see him become more of a threat in the Ultimate U as well.


I disagree. I like that Ultimate Doom will be the world's greatest villain eventually, but is not yet. Just like Reed still isn't the world's greatest scientific mind because he's too young, but he'll be the #1 one day.

[Evil-Spidey]

I disagree. I like that Ultimate Doom will be the world's greatest villain eventually, but is not yet. Just like Reed still isn't the world's greatest scientific mind because he's too young, but he'll be the #1 one day.

I haven't followed any other titles than USM in the latest time, did Ultimate Doom come back from the Marvel Zombie universe or is he still stuck there? I mean we know that the Marvel Zombies won the fight against Ultimate Doom but we don't know that if they really ate him. So Ultimate Doom dead or alive?

[Mister Mets]

If the hand is Magneto's, I suspect Doctor Octopus may be somehow connected given events in the clone saga.

I was rereading the Clone Saga from Ultimate Spider-Man today, and it occurred to me that Doctor Octopus's control over metal (which led to some criticizing the development as making him into a knock off of Magneto) may have intentional links to Magneto's abilities.

In the story, Otto says the only difference between the Fantastic Four and himself is that they got their powers by accident. So I'm wondering if Octavius found a way to duplicate Magneto's powers before his accident in the first arc of Ultimate Spider-Man.

Magneto's playing a big role in both Ultimates 3 and Ultimatum, given the glove on the cover, so anyone who duplicated his powers may be a key player. Ultimate Origin, which ties into Ultimatum is supposed to reveal secrets of the Ultimate Universe, so I suspect Otto Octavius replicating Magneto's powers may play a role in both events.

[hunter_peterson]

This idea would make more sense if when he was with the CIA he tampered with his existing powers.

[Angelus II]

I disagree. I like that Ultimate Doom will be the world's greatest villain eventually, but is not yet. Just like Reed still isn't the world's greatest scientific mind because he's too young, but he'll be the #1 one day.

The greatest villain in the Ultimate universe used to be Norman Osborn. But unfortunatly he's now dead. The new greatest villain now,I will say is Magneto or Apocalypse.

[Evil-Spidey]

Lol no way Osborn was a greater villain to the Ultimate Earth than Magneto, i mean it's pretty clear that they all fear him the most, he was even one of the main reasons why the Ultimates excist, to prevent another Magneto incident.

[Angelus II]

Lol no way Osborn was a greater villain to the Ultimate Earth than Magneto, i mean it's pretty clear that they all fear him the most, he was even one of the main reasons why the Ultimates excist, to prevent another Magneto incident.

Yes he was. He was Spider-Man greatest villain when it started.

The Ultimates was link to him (Ultimate Six, proof right there).

The X-Men practice fighting he in the danger room

Like every ultimate book used to be link to Norman in some way.

[Evil-Spidey]

Heroes and the world goverment are in fear of Magneto, he is a world wide terrorist, he nearly took over the USA, he has an army following him that would do nearly anthing. On several occasions he has attempted to implement unflinchingly genocidal plans for humanity.

[carabas]

Norman Osborn: has made a bit of a nuisance of himself, and has created a not quite right working superserum version.

Magneto: kidnapped the first daughter. Double or tripple digit body count. Had a Dubya himself cowering naked on the White House front lawn about to be executed in front of a live television audience.

The Goblin escaping means a bunch of SHIELD soldiers will probably die. Magneto escaping means civilisation as we know it, and our continued existance as a species are is in danger.

[Mr. Sam]

Heroes and the world goverment are in fear of Magneto, he is a world wide terrorist, he nearly took over the USA, he has an army following him that would do nearly anthing. On several occasions he has attempted to implement unflinchingly genocidal plans for humanity.

I agree. Magneto is clearly a much wider threat as he is, as had been said, a genocidal terrorist. 'Nough said.

Oh, and his daughter makes dinosaurs.

[Blaqueneto]

The Goblin escaping means a bunch of SHIELD soldiers will probably die. Magneto escaping means civilisation as we know it, and our continued existance as a species are is in danger.There's no better way to sum it up.

[hunter_peterson]

Magneto: kidnapped the first daughter. Double or tripple digit body count. Had a Dubya himself cowering naked on the White House front lawn about to be executed in front of a live television audience.

Is it retarded that I read this and thought: "Who's Doobyah?"
I do think it is retarded. But not as retarded as that breakfast machine I bought.

And I agree with you. Magneto is the greater threat, despite the awsomeness of Osborn. He was really awsome. I hope he never comes back, though. His death too well done for that.

And to the guy whose boardname I have completely forgotten, the link there was Nick Fury and the Supersoldier serum, not the Green Goblin.

[Angelus II]

Heroes and the world goverment are in fear of Magneto, he is a world wide terrorist, he nearly took over the USA, he has an army following him that would do nearly anthing. On several occasions he has attempted to implement unflinchingly genocidal plans for humanity.

I was talking about the past. The heroes and the goverment were in fear of Norman aswell.

Ultimate Spider-Man #24, Nick Fury warn Peter how dangerous Norman was (didn't mention Magneto being a threat).

Norman form a attack on the white house.

Turn his own son into a monster.

Magneto wasn't the greatest villain when the UU started. He only got one break, then Xavier block his mind. And once the block was remove he went into a S.H.I.E.L.D. containment center after another lucky break. After escaping from that, he did nothing--untill now.

[Evil-Spidey]

Well i'm a huge USM and i refuse to further explain why Magneto is without any doubt a much much greater threat to Ultimate Earth than Norman Osborn (especially since i'm a Osborn fan and regulary hate UXM and Magneto) and i think carabas already explained it perfectly:

The Goblin escaping means a bunch of SHIELD soldiers will probably die. Magneto escaping means civilisation as we know it, and our continued existance as a species are is in danger.


And if you go for who the greatest USM villain is, it's without any doubt Doc Ock for me, i think the Clone Saga made it pretty clear, i mean he has completely destroyed every aspect of Peter’s life.

[carabas]

I was talking about the past. The heroes and the goverment were in fear of Norman aswell.Let's put it like this: Norman Osborn was feared for his connections and his blackmail material. Magneto is feared because he wants (and has made some decent goes at it) to end homo sapiens. They're not just not in the same league, they aren't even playing the same game.

[Slyfer]

True that Magnus single handely belittled the ULTIMATES , went into shield undetected and still kicked all their asses without lifting so much as a finger, come on.

Magnus threat level is Planetary, Osborn is neighbourhood , hence a Neighbourhood superhero to stand in our defence .

[DeREk FrEEsT]

Man forget Victor Van Damme matter of fact forget calling him Dr.Doom realisticly he's no Dr.Doom. I do have hopes he can turn into a Mr.Fear type of character. When I say Mr.Fear I don't mean have him show everyone their worst fear I mean the fear that was recently shown in DareDevil. Having no fear in himself and becoming more innovative in his mystic moves. I really feel that Victor could become a great sorceror supreme and take on big monsters or demons.

[IAMFuzzy]

And I agree with you. Magneto is the greater threat, despite the awsomeness of Osborn. He was really awsome. I hope he never comes back, though. His death too well done for that.
Who said he died? Once Bendis is off the book (hopefully never) the excuse of never seeing his dead body buried will be brought up as well as the fact that the arc was called Death of a Goblin (not Goblins).

[hunter_peterson]

They're not just not in the same league, they aren't even playing the same game.

I like Pulp Fiction too.

And why would Nick Fury warn Peter to stay away from Magneto, who he's never met and is in JAIL? That would be stupid.:p

[desanth]

I feel like Fury warned Pete of Osborn because Osborn was dangerous of becoming something of a Magneto level threat. He could create his own super soldiers from the OZ formula and an army of Spidermen or Goblins can be dangerous. Nick Fury was in the process of stomping on threats like that(its his job afterall), hence he had spiderslayers in case Parker went el loco. The CIA even felt that making spidey clones might be able to combat SHIELD/Ultimates in case they went rogue.

So in any case, Osborn isn't a threat like Magneto is, but potentially could be.

[carabas]

I feel like Fury warned Pete of Osborn because Osborn was dangerous of becoming something of a Magneto level threat.Or maybe just because he's dangerous in the 'can rip your head clean of your shoulders' kinda way and had a deep, personal grudge against Spider-Man?

[ThePhenom]

Has anyone else noticed at this point in time the prospective of the UU after Ultimatum is not good...

The Ultimates 3, Ultimate Human and Ultimate Iron Man II will have finished, no other minis have been announced, the Ultimates 4 is up in the air, the origins of the Ultimate universe are being explained and there's no word of life after Ultimatum...

It's pointing out something everyone has already realised but now it's looking particularly grim.

[Angelus II]

Has anyone else noticed at this point in time the prospective of the UU after Ultimatum is not good...

The Ultimates 3, Ultimate Human and Ultimate Iron Man II will have finished, no other minis have been announced, the Ultimates 4 is up in the air, the origins of the Ultimate universe are being explained and there's no word of life after Ultimatum...

It's pointing out something everyone has already realised but now it's looking particularly grim.

They aren't going to announce anything new untill Ultimatum is out.

[hunter_peterson]

Origins comes out in June.

[prodigy]

OMG I just read this about Ultimatum on the net. It's an interview with Loeb. Here's a quote:

"OK, so Ultimatum boils down to the repercussions that take place when Magneto finds out he has a new power that he never knew existed. I really wanted to call it "Ultimatium: Big" like my color books, but everyone thought Ultimatum was ultimately (no pun intended) more marketable. See he can now grow really big, so big in fact that the earth is the size of his fist. Of course he immediately crushes the earth, and the heroes now have to deal with the aftermath of floating into space and bumping into each other. I spoke with Mark (Millar) and we laughed because this was the direction he was taking the Ultimates in. The story starts in the middle, with everyone just floating there and then little details will be revealed. It's a mystery. You're not putting this on the web are you?"
My God... lmfao...

I think this post is the hardest I've ever laughed at anything on this forum. Nice man, nice.