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DungeonmasterJim
03-08-2008, 08:05 PM
I'll be posting/linking the designs of WhiteRose, Dazzler and myself here to keep people updated on what we have produced for designs. Check the actual thread in Artist & Writers to see the text and to vote.

Mine, 1st challenge, create a non-powered super-hero based on yourself:

http://www.comicspace.com/jamesroberts/uploaded/19087/1205031356_DWbhwyJv72.jpg

DM Jim

DungeonmasterJim
03-08-2008, 08:07 PM
WhiteRose's:

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y98/RedThorn/CCI00112col124.jpg

Dazzler hasn't posted yet. He has until sometime on Monday by contest rules.

DM Jim

Challenge 1 thread:

http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=212434&page=3

WhiteRose
03-09-2008, 01:41 AM
Man, I'm really enjoying this. I didn't know if I would or not...

Dazzler
03-09-2008, 04:14 AM
Well, I finally got mine up! I love yours, ya'll! WhiteRose...is Striker kicking the shit out of a teddy bear?! I love it.

I named mine The Human Target...mostly because my job is to be a human target. Sigh.
This was the first time I've ever used photoshop to color. That shit is HARD!

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3044/2322064792_c2ab167003_o.jpg--Dazz

Dazzler
03-11-2008, 12:03 AM
HEY! Solaris joined the fray!

--Dazz

Solaris
03-11-2008, 12:05 AM
Talk about squeeking in under the wire!!! :D Whew!

Yeah, I got bitten by the bug, but was tied up with stuff this weekend... and I just finished the pic a little while ago. I'll go ahead and post it here, but if you want to read her powers, backstory, etc. go see the CBRunway thread. :)

http://album.hanamoira.com/albums/userpics/10003/Ministry.jpg

Dazzler
03-11-2008, 12:08 AM
Talk about squeeking in under the wire!!! :D Whew!

Yeah, I got bitten by the bug, but was tied up with stuff this weekend... and I just finished the pic a little while ago. I'll go ahead and post it here, but if you want to read her powers, backstory, etc. go see the CBRunway thread. :)

http://album.hanamoira.com/albums/userpics/10003/Ministry.jpg

Awesome Solaris! So glad you decided to play.
Although, I hate the idea of competing against you, WhiteRose, and dungeonmasterjim. :(

--Dazz

Solaris
03-11-2008, 12:42 AM
Ha! :D Well, I think you'll go far in the competition, Dazz... I love your entry! (And Whiterose's and DMJim's, too!)

As for mine, I was experimenting with a new technique, which certainly isn't typical of a comics look, though I've seen a few comics with artwork using a similar look/technique... so we'll see. I'm curious to see if the look will fly or not.

But, too, from what I understand in reading some of the stuff from last year's competition, what you write about the character plays into it as well---as well as the ideas you have for the costume itself.

I thought about doing something elaborate for Ministry---but decided the character needed a simpler, more streamlined costume, so that's what I went with. If I make it into further rounds, I hope to do at least a few designs that are more complex, in terms of costume styling and, of course, the artwork. *crosses fingers*

DungeonmasterJim
03-11-2008, 05:41 AM
I hope all of us make it to the second round. With so many people entered this time around there could be multiple particpant eliminations. I'm not sure if Matt Bib will still eliminate people if someone drops out that week. I think he did last year which is where I might be remembering the multiple eliminations.

My entries from last year can be found here:
http://www.comicspace.com/jamesroberts/comics.php?action=gallery&comic_id=7858

I got a lot of comments on the shoes I drew for Dazzler and she seemed my most well like entry. Wolverine got me eliminated. Hairy legs and shorts don't mix. :D

DM Jim

twilight
03-11-2008, 06:00 AM
Man, I'm really enjoying this. I didn't know if I would or not...

Aye.

I think I produce better work when I have a goal to reach so these competitions really keep me on my toes.

-Twi

DungeonmasterJim
03-11-2008, 06:04 AM
Sorry for not including your entry Twilight! :o

I can be really lousy at remembering who posts at YABS regularly.

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/8615/thesneakly3.png

DM Jim

twilight
03-11-2008, 06:06 AM
Sorry for not including your entry Twilight! :o

Don't sweat it,I'd hardly call myself a regular.

More like an eccentric cousin.

And for the record I still think that Dazzler design was great.

-Twi

DungeonmasterJim
03-11-2008, 06:11 AM
Don't sweat it,I'd hardly call myself a regular.

More like an eccentric cousin.

And for the record I still think that Dazzler design was great.

-Twi


Awww, shucks! :o

In all seriousness, thanks for the props!

DM Jim

Solaris
03-11-2008, 12:53 PM
Whew! just came back from the voting thread, and man, it's tough! There's something good about every entry; picking one to vote for was very hard.

One thing I found interesting (being a newbie to the game): in trying to pick one to vote for, I found it helped me understand the challenge a lot better (which I wish I could've done *before* I put in my submission, but oh well).

I hope more people go in and vote, because right now there's a ton of entrants (28, IIRC) and only a few people have voted so far. If we end up with lots of folks with no vote, I'm wondering how Mattbib will handle figuring out who to "auf"....

C'mon, people! The voting's only open for 48 hours, and only a handful of folks have voted so far---GO VOTE! (Besides, there's lots of great stuff to see over there, and great descriptions, too---go have fun!)

:)

WhiteRose
03-11-2008, 04:41 PM
As soon as I put mine up I had new ideas to make mine a bit more visually interesting, and then real work and life and stuff got in the way for the next few days. Oh well, I like where mine went anyway :) Mostly I just wanted to beat the hell out of an...uh, 'evil' mascot.

mgs
03-11-2008, 04:43 PM
all these pics are great! Nice job everyone! :)

Dazzler
03-11-2008, 05:19 PM
Thanks mgs!

What do you guys feel about voting for yourself? I'm not sure I want to do it, because there are a lot of entried I think are badass....but I'm torn because, well, I want to win and I think the best way to not hurt any feelings or play favorites is to vote for myself.

--Dazz

twilight
03-11-2008, 05:53 PM
Thanks mgs!

What do you guys feel about voting for yourself? I'm not sure I want to do it, because there are a lot of entried I think are badass....but I'm torn because, well, I want to win and I think the best way to not hurt any feelings or play favorites is to vote for myself.

--Dazz

I voted for myself on occasion last year if I felt a bit too close to the bottom of the pile but I'm not going to do it this year.

-Twi

Dazzler
03-11-2008, 06:11 PM
I voted for myself on occasion last year if I felt a bit too close to the bottom of the pile but I'm not going to do it this year.

-Twi
I voted for myself, but I think if i make it to the next round, I'll look to others first.

--Dazz

twilight
03-11-2008, 06:15 PM
I voted for myself, but I think if i make it to the next round, I'll look to others first.

--Dazz

Yeah,it's difficult this time around.

There's so many competitors and usually the voter turn out is on the low side.

-Twi

Dazzler
03-11-2008, 06:19 PM
Yeah,it's difficult this time around.

There's so many competitors and usually the voter turn out is on the low side.

-Twi

It IS hard. There were about five or six that I thought were fantastic designs...if I DIDN'T choose myself, I'd have had a hard time choosing.

--Dazz

DungeonmasterJim
03-11-2008, 07:09 PM
I voted for myself on occasion last year if I felt a bit too close to the bottom of the pile but I'm not going to do it this year.

-Twi

I voted for myself once or twice last year but felt kind of guilty about it. Still, if it's me and some entries that I don't feel are that great, I suppose I'll vote for myself again. I might not have to make that decision though this year, I'm already at the bottom this first vote and I voted for someone else.

DM Jim

Dazzler
03-11-2008, 09:56 PM
COME ON YABSTERS!
Get your asses over there and vote!

--Dazz

Dazzler
03-13-2008, 03:34 PM
YAY! We all made it! Congrats to Solaris, WhiteRose, dungeonmasterjim, and twilight on making it to the next round. Now, we've got a fun one coming up. Although, I will it admit, it's got me kind of scared. ;)

AND: Solaris had some fan art posted about her character! that's about as rad as it gets!

--Dazz

WhiteRose
03-13-2008, 04:22 PM
I love the next challenge. My uncle gave me the first few issues of Youngblood back in the day, and I looked up at him and asked 'no really, they let anyone get away with this sort of thing?'

I HAVE IDEAS.

DungeonmasterJim
03-13-2008, 06:09 PM
Quick recap on the voting.

WhiteRose...4 votes

DungeonmasterJim...2 votes

Solaris...2 votes

Dazzler...4 votes

Twilight...6 votes

I usually check to see who voted for me because all the votes are public polls. I usually don't recognize 50% or more of the people voting for me. Also, a number of them seem to have few if any posts. Let's hear it for lurkers! :D They've saved my tail more than once in Project Runway.


Also, this latest week's contest is to design an original character based on Rob Leifeld-like drawing - over-sized muscles, pouches, obscenely over-sized weapons and the like from the 1990's.

I'm really looking forward to WhiteRose's entry as she has hinted at 36DD (or was it DDD?) and a 2 inch waist. :evilsmile

And Solaris has mentioned loving to draw sexy women in the voting thread so I could really enjoy voting this round.

DM Jim

Solaris
03-13-2008, 11:06 PM
And Solaris has mentioned loving to draw sexy women in the voting thread so I could really enjoy voting this round.

DM Jim

You're in for a surprise. :D :D :D :D

And no, I'm not 'fessing yet. I *just* finished the character concept (the writing part), and now I'm starting on the drawing.

WhiteRose
03-14-2008, 03:29 AM
Quick recap on the voting.

WhiteRose...4 votes

DungeonmasterJim...2 votes

Solaris...2 votes

Dazzler...4 votes

Twilight...6 votes

I usually check to see who voted for me because all the votes are public polls. I usually don't recognize 50% or more of the people voting for me. Also, a number of them seem to have few if any posts. Let's hear it for lurkers! :D They've saved my tail more than once in Project Runway.


Also, this latest week's contest is to design an original character based on Rob Leifeld-like drawing - over-sized muscles, pouches, obscenely over-sized weapons and the like from the 1990's.

I'm really looking forward to WhiteRose's entry as she has hinted at 36DD (or was it DDD?) and a 2 inch waist. :evilsmile

And Solaris has mentioned loving to draw sexy women in the voting thread so I could really enjoy voting this round.

DM Jim

MUAHAHAHA.

I just finished the pencils. So a scan and some colour tonight, methinks. Maybe submit later in the evening...

Silly non-Australian time, keeps making me think I only have 3 days instead of 5.

BnL
03-14-2008, 04:37 AM
And Solaris has mentioned loving to draw sexy women in the voting thread so I could really enjoy voting this round.

Wouldn't that actually work AGAINST her in this challenge? :p

Solaris
03-14-2008, 04:41 AM
Argh, I'm going nuts (and crosseyes) trying to draw this. I mean, I'm not the best artist in the world by any stretch... and looking at his pics, and seeing stuff that's wrong with them and trying to *imitate* it?

Liefield had this weird peculiar brand of "right" and "wrong" all mixed together, and it's driving me mad. (I'd only seen a couple of Liefield pics... till now. Sigh.)

The good news is, I got my written part done first thing (except for describing the costume), so that part's finished.

BnL
03-14-2008, 04:51 AM
Argh, I'm going nuts (and crosseyes) trying to draw this. I mean, I'm not the best artist in the world by any stretch... and looking at his pics, and seeing stuff that's wrong with them and trying to *imitate* it?

Liefield had this weird peculiar brand of "right" and "wrong" all mixed together, and it's driving me mad. (I'd only seen a couple of Liefield pics... till now. Sigh.)

The good news is, I got my written part done first thing (except for describing the costume), so that part's finished.

Don't try to mimic his art exactly, keep some of your own style. Just keep in mind a couple of basics: big hair, impossibly contorted spine, and legs that make up about 80 percent of the total height. Oh, and pouches. Lots and lots of pouches. Here's (http://www.avengersassemble.us/heroesreborn/v27.jpg) a fine example of most of these things in one place.

Solaris
03-14-2008, 09:52 PM
Don't try to mimic his art exactly, keep some of your own style. Just keep in mind a couple of basics: big hair, impossibly contorted spine, and legs that make up about 80 percent of the total height. Oh, and pouches. Lots and lots of pouches. Here's (http://www.avengersassemble.us/heroesreborn/v27.jpg) a fine example of most of these things in one place.


Thanks! :)

I'm pretty happy with how it's turning out; I've been working on the pencils all day and am nearly done. Might not have taken so long, but I'm in that 3rd day of the flu thing where you thought you were getting better the day before, then the second part hits. My sinuses feel like overstuff cushions on a 56 Chevy, my ears are like "pop what?", and I've had periodic sneezes and coughs that make the headache spike in such a *lovely* way. Makes it really hard to think, and after the last solid hour or so of staring at the piece as I worked, when I took a break and looked up, it took my eyes ten minutes to be able to focus on the words on the screen here.

Don't mind me, I'm just cold-bitching, I hate with a passion being sick. If I could remove my head and put it on a shelf in the sun for two days, and still survive, I'd probably try it. :D

On the other hand, I *might* be able to make a plausible argument that trying to imitate Liefield literally made me sick. :D ;) Hee. It's a little-known curse that Liefield incorporated into his work, for anyone who tries to do his style. Heh.

WhiteRose
03-15-2008, 12:02 AM
My entry is posted! Man this one was fun :)

I can't wait to see what you guys come up with. This was a hell of a challenge :)

Dazzler
03-15-2008, 12:04 AM
My entry is posted! Man this one was fun :)

I can't wait to see what you guys come up with. This was a hell of a challenge :)

OH MY GOD, WhiteRose! Your entry is fantastic and your description is hilarious. Right now, it's the one to beat!

--Dazz

WhiteRose
03-15-2008, 12:17 AM
OH MY GOD, WhiteRose! Your entry is fantastic and your description is hilarious. Right now, it's the one to beat!

--Dazz

Awww thanks Dazz :) I figured my first entry was kinda weak so I had to punch it up a bit.

Glad you like it :D

Dazzler
03-15-2008, 12:23 AM
Awww thanks Dazz :) I figured my first entry was kinda weak so I had to punch it up a bit.
No problem! I didn't think the first one was weak at all, by the way. The teddy bear/mascot getting creamed was rad! ;)

Glad you like it :D

No, I love it! ;)

This challenge has me scared. I tried drawing some today, but I don't think I can do it. Everything we're supposed to do is just about everything I hated about comics for a long time. It's so....early Image. *shudder*

--Dazz

WhiteRose
03-15-2008, 12:44 AM
No problem! I didn't think the first one was weak at all, by the way. The teddy bear/mascot getting creamed was rad! ;)



No, I love it! ;)

This challenge has me scared. I tried drawing some today, but I don't think I can do it. Everything we're supposed to do is just about everything I hated about comics for a long time. It's so....early Image. *shudder*

--Dazz

I think it was a little easier for me because I didn't really read comics in the 90's, and so I kinda wasn't really emotionally invested in the art or stories or whatever from the time. I had to research hardcore for this one. I'm surrounded by Youngblood and X-Men books my uncle gave me YEEEEARS ago, and I bought a trade of the first volume of Gen13 today to finalise a few things (and giggle. Oh the giggling).

You're a sweetie Dazz. Thank you :)

DungeonmasterJim
03-16-2008, 06:24 PM
WhiteRose's entry for challenge #2 - create a new character based on Liefield 90's style as in big guns, shoulder pads and pouches, pouches, pouches...

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y98/RedThorn/CCI00114flesh2resizefilmgrain.jpg

Dazzler, Twilight, me and Solaris haven't posted yet.

DM Jim

Solaris
03-16-2008, 07:07 PM
Should have mine up sometime tomorrow---all I have to do is finish the inset I'm doing, and I'm done. (YAY!)

One of the reasons this one took so long is because I did a LOT of research on mistakes Liefield made---and he's made a ton of 'em. In fact, I finally remembered to post a link to a great blog (in the challenge thread) where this guy details the 40 worst Liefield pics---and analyzes each one. I meant to post it earlier, and what with flu and having a housefull of guests, I clean forgot. Duh.

The other reason it took so long is that it turned out to be one of the times when a drawing started going really *right*---and I kept having to go back and try to mess up stuff like Liefield. Sigh.

BnL
03-16-2008, 09:41 PM
WhiteRose, I'm disappointed in your entry. The anatomy is far too accurate! :p

Dazzler
03-16-2008, 10:36 PM
FINALLY. Got mine done.
I feel gross now.

*BLARG*

Meet
Cyber-BloodStump!
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2181/2339043753_49a5216e9f_o.jpg

--Dazz

BnL
03-16-2008, 11:11 PM
LOL, that's hilarious. I love the tiny, tiny hands.

WhiteRose
03-17-2008, 12:31 AM
WhiteRose, I'm disappointed in your entry. The anatomy is far too accurate! :p

I cannae help it! I just can't force myself to draw that absolutely ridiculously!

As an aside: Dazz? Pouches around the cyber-stump of a leg? WIN.

Solaris
03-17-2008, 02:10 AM
Lordy, I thought I would NEVER finish this one! But it's done, and up---and here's the pic:

http://album.hanamoira.com/albums/userpics/10003/fade2black.jpg


Since I did both a static and an action shot, it's really like doing two pictures---and all that detail work? *groan*

Aside from all the research, and the tedious hours in drawing, inking, and coloring, the hardest part was to deliberately make the kind of mistakes Liefield makes. And wouldn't you know it, this happened to be one of the times when the pic was go *so* right... and then I'd have to go back and mess something up, to make it in his "style."

Whew. I'm exhausted.

I'm concerned, because I went more for the straight version of Liefield errors, rather than the very funny exaggeration many of the contestants went for. I have no idea if that will help, or hurt, my chances---but this was my take on Liefield, so I'll stand by it.

And now... finally... to bed. :)

DungeonmasterJim
03-17-2008, 07:40 AM
Mine.

http://www.comicspace.com/jamesroberts/uploaded/19087/1205760281_8SVKs_1bk9.jpg

Not sure I should say this but,...

I initially enjoyed this character but the more LieField I made it with pouches and weapons and what no the more I disliked it. While the only version I have is inked I would like my character again if I got rid of the Liefieldesque aspects of it.

DM Jim

Sgt. Fuzzy
03-17-2008, 08:15 AM
I laughed so hard looking at these. This is awesome stuff. You guys all captured what made Liefeld so, um, distinctive in the '90s. Pouches aside, I loved DMJim's ridiculous weaponry, Solaris' overly muscled and contorted character, and the extra frickin' grip on the hilt of WhiteRose's character.

But frankly, though, I'm sorry to disappoint the rest of you guys, but Dazz gets my vote because his character has no feet. Seriously.

Aggie
03-17-2008, 06:29 PM
you guys rocked the shit outta that challenge...ah the folly of youth as i was a *huge* leifield fan back then...and i can you totally nailed it...i need to go check out the thread and see what else you guys have out together...i feel so out of the loop after missing a few days of posts...:(

Dazzler
03-18-2008, 12:40 AM
DUDEZ, we DID it! We are The AWESOME! Let's start a studio in 1993 and get mad rich!

I can't believe WhiteRose and Solaris were never really exposed to the Liefeld taint. Ya'll are quick studies!
And Jim, that headgear alone is enough for me to go into 90's shock! RAD!

(and thanks WhiteRose and Sgt. Fuzzy! ;) )

Aside: Aggie--kickass Four Women sig.

--Dazz

MPagar
03-18-2008, 12:44 AM
Great stuff. I wish I'd seen that threat in the Writers & Artists section so I could have joined in. Love the Leifeld ones.

Solaris
03-18-2008, 12:50 AM
DUDEZ, we DID it! We are The AWESOME! Let's start a studio in 1993 and get mad rich!

I can't believe WhiteRose and Solaris were never really exposed to the Liefeld taint. Ya'll are quick studies!
And Jim, that headgear alone is enough for me to go into 90's shock! RAD!

(and thanks WhiteRose and Sgt. Fuzzy! ;) )

Aside: Aggie--kickass Four Women sig.

--Dazz


Thanks Dazz! I think you guys rocked it too---the voters are in for a tough time this round.

Honestly, the first I ever heard of Liefield was on CBR---and the minute I saw that Cap America pic, I "got" what people meant.

That "Top 40 Worst Rob Liefield Pics" blog really helped me a lot, in seeing the many ways the man can't draw. (I posted a link in the challenge thread.)

Dazzler
03-18-2008, 12:56 AM
Thanks Dazz! I think you guys rocked it too---the voters are in for a tough time this round.
No problemo, Solaris! :)

Honestly, the first I ever heard of Liefield was on CBR---and the minute I saw that Cap America pic, I "got" what people meant.
I'm sorry you had to be exposed to that...if you missed it the first time around, you're one of the luckier ones. But yeh, that Captain America pic TOTALLY shows the true nature of the Liefeld. Scary huh?

That "Top 40 Worst Rob Liefield Pics" blog really helped me a lot, in seeing the many ways the man can't draw. (I posted a link in the challenge thread.)
That website is hilarious! I read it about four times and laughed my butt off.
Thanks for posting. It was the perfect place to do research.
I actually droppered my color palette directly off of drawings from that blog.

--Dazz

twilight
03-18-2008, 05:11 AM
I don't feel all that confident this week.

-Twi

Sgt. Fuzzy
03-18-2008, 07:44 AM
I just had a look at the thread itself, and I must say I'm amazed at the quality-- or rather, in this challenge, lack thereof, haha-- of the work in Project CBRunway. The designs are all wildly over-the-top, and I'm pretty hard-pressed to find a favorite (though I still laugh the hardest when I see Cyber-Bloodstump).

And I hate to say it, but Solaris' concept is actually pretty cool. It should be disqualified due to far too much quality! :p

Solaris
03-18-2008, 12:22 PM
Okay, NOW I'M CRYING. (Well, not really, but I'm pissed at myself really good right now.)

If you want to see why, go look at my post in the "Play at Home" thread.

In short, I had a brainstorm this morning, it was too good NOT to do it---and now I wish I'd had it last Thursday, BEFORE I started on the Fade2Black picture.

*kicks self all over the parking lot*

Bo Bo
03-18-2008, 12:36 PM
Man, those drawings are great! They should all be in a comic. Some sort of 90's style "Team Extreme". Give them an insane mission like having a bloody vendetta against gophers and I'd buy it!

Again, great job everyone! i don't know if I could vote for one over the other :(

Aggie
03-18-2008, 05:57 PM
you know i love you guys like step children, but zach's costume is a thing of liefieldian beauty and by beauty i mean hot ass mess, so i voted for him...but sol, honey the guns made me pee a little bit because i swear it looks like he's about to shoot himself in the thigh and that made me laugh really hard...dazz, dude i love the stumps!! and your taste in music too. ;)

and rosey, your write up was made of win, but your drawing was still too damn good and structurally sound to be in the liefield universe...but that bio killed me...kudos to all of you...:)

Solaris
03-18-2008, 07:48 PM
Okay, even though it's not in the contest thread (it's in the "Play at Home" thread), I got Jim's permission to post my other pic here---and I wanted to share it here because to me, it's just so darned funny. Wish my real entry had been as funny, but oh well, live and learn. Anyway, if you want to see the bio for this pic, check the "Project CBRunway Play Along at Home!" thread:


http://album.hanamoira.com/albums/userpics/10003/carriejuggs.jpg

Dazzler
03-19-2008, 03:47 AM
Oh. MY. GOD!

HAHAHAHA! Solaris FTW. ;)

Hilarious!

--Dazz

(and Aggie, thanks for playing and the feedback!)

Dazzler
03-19-2008, 03:48 AM
But frankly, though, I'm sorry to disappoint the rest of you guys, but Dazz gets my vote because his character has no feet. Seriously.

Who needs feet when you're made of AWESOME?!?!

Thanks!

--Dazz

Solaris
03-24-2008, 06:18 PM
Here's my pic for the third challenge (we picked a number and got a state, and had to design a character that represented that state in some fashion):

The Sage Guardian, protector of Nevada:

http://album.hanamoira.com/albums/userpics/10003/sageguardian.jpg


This was a tough challenge. I got a good state. My main worry is that my character has some minor similarities to at least one other character---but I didn't even see that person's entry until after I posted mine, and started back-reading. Sigh. Been working on her all weekend.

C'mon, guys, post your pics! :)

VOTING STARTS TOMORROW FOLKS, SO GO HIT THE THREAD AND SEE ALL THE GOOD STUFF! :)

Aggie
03-24-2008, 06:28 PM
Okay, even though it's not in the contest thread (it's in the "Play at Home" thread), I got Jim's permission to post my other pic here---and I wanted to share it here because to me, it's just so darned funny. Wish my real entry had been as funny, but oh well, live and learn. Anyway, if you want to see the bio for this pic, check the "Project CBRunway Play Along at Home!" thread:


http://album.hanamoira.com/albums/userpics/10003/carriejuggs.jpg

this just hurt my heart from laughter...is it wrong that the most disturbing thing about it is the cigarette??...excellent!!

Who needs feet when you're made of AWESOME?!?!

Thanks!

--Dazz

i heart you sooo hard dazz!!...

Here's my pic for the third challenge (we picked a number and got a state, and had to design a character that represented that state in some fashion):

The Sage Guardian, protector of Nevada:

http://album.hanamoira.com/albums/userpics/10003/sageguardian.jpg


This was a tough challenge. I got a good state. My main worry is that my character has some minor similarities to at least one other character---but I didn't even see that person's entry until after I posted mine, and started back-reading. Sigh. Been working on her all weekend.

C'mon, guys, post your pics! :)

VOTING STARTS TOMORROW FOLKS, SO GO HIT THE THREAD AND SEE ALL THE GOOD STUFF!

i love the outling of this sol. it's pretty snazzy, but the action and energy of the overall composition is fantastic!

ah, if i pulled this one i would have so taken the cheap route so, kudos for keeping it real :)

DungeonmasterJim
03-24-2008, 08:08 PM
I,... uh,... sorta forgot about this thread the past few days because of some other things that took my attention.

My state, Louisiana. While I really like the character I created the more I look at it the more I think no one wil vote for it since it's not really a costume. Not in the traditional sense anyways.

The Louisiann' Swamp Rat

http://www.comicspace.com/jamesroberts/uploaded/19087/1206366884_8a2XgWPYde.jpg

But how can you not like a woman that wrestles alligators? ;)

DM Jim

DungeonmasterJim
03-24-2008, 08:10 PM
WhiteRose's

Tombstone

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y98/RedThorn/CCI00118final.jpg

State: Arizona

WhiteRose
03-24-2008, 08:37 PM
WhiteRose's

Tombstone

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y98/RedThorn/CCI00118final.jpg

State: Arizona

Oops! I totally forgot about this thread.

Thanks for posting mine up DM :)

Yay for knowing next to nothing about your wacky country!

Solaris
03-24-2008, 09:00 PM
this just hurt my heart from laughter...is it wrong that the most disturbing thing about it is the cigarette??...excellent!!


(Actually, it's a dog whistle---but I confess, it does look like a cigarette unless you examine it very closely. Heh.) Glad you enjoyed her! :D



i love the outling of this sol. it's pretty snazzy, but the action and energy of the overall composition is fantastic!

ah, if i pulled this one i would have so taken the cheap route so, kudos for keeping it real :)

Thanks! :)

I *had* to throw in the nuclear radiation symbol---nuclear tests and radiation have had such a strong impact on the state---so of course she got the ability to generate, direct, or clean up nuclear radiation. And of course, the dice, heh. I like that for symbolizing that she can manipulate the energies of probability, to give "good luck or bad luck" to friends or enemies (that was my nod to all the gambling and casinos). And I was surprised to learn that Nevada has the oldest living thing on Earth: the bristlecone pine, some of which are 4,000 years old.

I'll confess to considering doing some version of Elvis...I mean hey, Viva Las Vegas! :D LOL. But after I did a ton of research on the state, I just couldn't leave the Newe Sogobia alone: so far as I could find, they are the only Native American Tribe/Nation that did *not* cede any land to the U.S. Govt. with the treaty the U.S. pushed on them... and legally, it's still in effect. Which means exactly squat to the government: the govt. has done craploads of damage to their lands, has tried to push many of them onto reservations, and continues to harass them as well.

Some examples:

Nevada Test and Training Site (nuclear tests above and below ground---the last test done below ground was in '93, IIRC).

Also, the govt. drilled a bunch of 200 foot wells in the region and exploded nuclear devices in them, to see if they could create water catchbasins or some such stupid scheme. The result was that a radioactive green plume spewed up from the holes, and part of the land around them subsided (and that's not accounting for radioactive particles going everywhere).

Aside from the test facility (which also houses Area 51, of Alien encounters and X-files fame), they also have an Air Force Test base there, *and*, they're trying to turn Yucca Mountain into a nuclear waste dump site (IIRC, it's a holy mountain to the Newe Sogobia).

Then, of course, there's the open earth (strip) mining for gold the govt. is allowing on their lands, and I take it the govt. also tries or does sell their lands to companies and developers. The government impounds horses and livestock of the natives, charges them with trespass and "grazing rights" fees, tries to prevent them from hunting and gathering on their lands (many still try to live by their traditional hunter/gatherer lifestyle).

So far as I can tell, about the only one of these issues that the other races in the state (mainly whites) coincide with the Native Americans on is the Yucca Mountain dumping issue---the state government is trying to fight Congress's attempt to push the project through.

And all this doesn't even count in the crap with the Bureau of Indian Affairs bullshit that all Native Americans have to deal with.

Bottom line is, even when a federal court says "this treaty is still in effect," the U.S. Govt. is still playing the "go live on your reservation, we own it now" game---and the Natives have been reduced to continuing to protest, and to attempting to get the international community interested/involved in their case/plight.

In other words, it's one more heinous example of how our national government still shits on Native Americans... and in this particular case, a group that is, in reality, a sovereign nation *inside* our borders---because THEY still own the land, not "U.S."

Once I'd read all that... I just couldn't go for the "fun and campy" Elvis thing.

Dazzler
03-24-2008, 10:37 PM
OH. MY. GOD.
Two things: I am totally in love with all three of you guys' designs! I'm serious...those are awesome. I can tell you right now that my vote is going for one of y'all, but I can't decide yet.
AND.
I finally finished mine. Cutting it a little close.

My state was New York:
EMPIRE
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2114/2359544823_f2c202d08e_o.jpg

--Dazz

WhiteRose
03-25-2008, 01:43 AM
I friggin' well hate you, Dazz.

You just might deter me from my resolution to keep voting for myself so as I don't have to CHOOSE.

There's just something about Empire... I love it :)

Solaris
03-25-2008, 05:37 AM
Once again, all the designs are good, and some are outstanding. The voters are going to have a tough choice. :D

DungeonmasterJim
03-25-2008, 07:38 PM
I'm certainly happy I got a vote for the Louisiann' Swamp Rat but she's taking a lot of heat so far. :(

If I get the boot I'll try to keep up on this thread. Just so folks know though that I'll be gone out of state and won't have much if any computer access this coming Friday, Saturday and Sunday.

DM Jim

Dazzler
03-25-2008, 07:54 PM
I'm certainly happy I got a vote for the Louisiann' Swamp Rat but she's taking a lot of heat so far. :(

If I get the boot I'll try to keep up on this thread. Just so folks know though that I'll be gone out of state and won't have much if any computer access this coming Friday, Saturday and Sunday.

DM Jim

Don't worry, Jim, I don't think you're going to get offed. Hell, I'm in just as much danger as you are (one vote: THANK YOU AGGIE!). I suppose I should have gone for Adirondack Lass or something. ;)

--Dazz

DungeonmasterJim
03-25-2008, 08:26 PM
I haven't mentioned this before but Liberty's helmet is an excellent design. It's a near perfect mesh of iconic visuals - the spikes from the Statue of Liberty - with a cool looking helmet to star.

Actually, I've liked all your designs. I think the human target is my favorite though.

DM Jim

Aggie
03-25-2008, 11:14 PM
Don't worry, Jim, I don't think you're going to get offed. Hell, I'm in just as much danger as you are (one vote: THANK YOU AGGIE!). I suppose I should have gone for Adirondack Lass or something. ;)

--Dazz




it was really tough, because you all had really strong designs. and not only that, but the thought you put into them was pretty amazing too. dazz' character just struck a cord w/ me because for me the reason i've always liked superheroes was the idea that there were people out there who risked everything to protect those who needed protecting...

so for me, i think Empire really encompasses that ideal and you have a lot to be proud of...you all do...seriously you guys are just freakin' awesome.

Dazzler
03-26-2008, 02:23 AM
I friggin' well hate you, Dazz.

You just might deter me from my resolution to keep voting for myself so as I don't have to CHOOSE.

There's just something about Empire... I love it :)
Thank you WhiteRose (I'm sorry, I didn't see this before). I like her a lot, but I'm afraid the voters have deemed her too cliche. BUMMER!
All I can say is that I stand by my product AND I think I want to hook my Empire up with your Striker. A match made in heaven! ;)

--Dazz

Dazzler
03-26-2008, 02:25 AM
I haven't mentioned this before but Liberty's helmet is an excellent design. It's a near perfect mesh of iconic visuals - the spikes from the Statue of Liberty - with a cool looking helmet to star.

Actually, I've liked all your designs. I think the human target is my favorite though.

DM Jim
Thank you so much, Jim. I've been in a self-esteem tizzy over this game. it's nice to know that you liked the designs. You're a total veteran to this thing, so that means a lot.

--Dazz

Dazzler
03-26-2008, 02:29 AM
it was really tough, because you all had really strong designs. and not only that, but the thought you put into them was pretty amazing too. dazz' character just struck a cord w/ me because for me the reason i've always liked superheroes was the idea that there were people out there who risked everything to protect those who needed protecting...

so for me, i think Empire really encompasses that ideal and you have a lot to be proud of...you all do...seriously you guys are just freakin' awesome.

I'm so glad that's what you got out of her, Aggie. I wanted a character who was all about protecting the "little people." I wanted a sorta Wonder Woman-ish character that was like Wonder Woman was back in the Golden Age...and I think I did it. I appreciate your vote, I really do. :)
I actually like the design and character enough to want to draw up some personal comic book pages with her in it (you know, for shits and giggles...).

--Dazz

Solaris
03-26-2008, 09:54 AM
Well, for once I voted for myself. It wasn't to keep myself in the competition, but rather because I'm just so darned passionate about what Sage Guardian represents: it's a really serious situation going on in Nevada, and if ever a state needed a superhero like her, Nevada needs it. Too bad she's not real, sigh.

I have a feeling captainbosh is going to win this year's CBRunway, because he consistently has the strongest presentation of comic book style art (and it's *very* good). However, I get kind of disappointed sometimes with his character info---to me, he never gives enough about his heroes' chosen foes (street crime? supervillains? corporate cartels? the govt.?). To me, a hero isn't just *there*---a hero is someone who is there for a *reason*: there's something they're fighting for, or against. The purpose of his latest character was to emulate her something-great grandfather, Ethan Allen, as a militaryesque hero. That's all well and good---but what does she *do*? Who does she apply her skills *against*? Hopefully he'll begin fleshing this kind of thing out with his later characters. Clever art is great, awesome drawing skills and costume concepts are great; but as I understand the competition, it's supposed to include the *character* concept as well---and to me, one of the main points of that is giving the *purpose* the character acts on, the thing that's central to their life as a superhero (or super villain).

Otherwise, it's like saying "well, Batman fights bad guys" and leaving it at that. When you talk about Batman, you talk about his role as a protector for the populace, and how that means he takes on everything from ordinary criminals to twisted insane villains, and how he never kills, but instead catches them for the police to arrest, and how he uses his detetcive skills and his fighting ability to do it. Leaving all that out and just saying "he fights bad guys" reduces the character immeasurably, and takes away his purpose---the thing that defines him and makes him separate and individual from anyone else who "fights bad guys."

I hesitated about posting this, because I thought some might see it as sour grapes on my part---but then I thought, "Well, this is my honest opinion, and it's bugging me that people seem so wowed with his art that they're overlooking something basic that's mostly missing in his character concept descriptions, so why not say it? If someone thinks it's sour grapes, so be it. So long as *I* know it isn't, that's good enough."

I have a feeling that he's going to win it overall, and that's fine; my hope is that he brings his character descriptions up to the level of his artwork, because then there'd be no question in my mind about whether or not he actually *is* meeting the requirements best of everyone in the challenge. He does exquisite comic style work, with great poses and details, and has come up with some cool concepts for heroes, abilities, etc. It's just that missing bit that I think is so vital (in creating a comic character), that messes with my head on his entries... and it bugs me.

As for my stuff, while I do well (IMO) in coming up with character concepts, history, etc., I don't expect to win, because IMO my art isn't in the best style to win (and is often inconsistent), and because I tend to get too wordy with my character info. I try to cut it back, but it seems like there's always something important, or something that adds fun or flavor to it, that just *has* to be in there. However, I *am* having lots of fun in the competition, and it's forcing me to explore new concepts and to try new things with my art, along with making me produce something every week---so all that makes it well worth it, in my book. :)

I also like reading the feedback, both on mine and other characters. One thing I've found very interesting is that the one thing someone complains about in a character, another person really likes. For instance, one guy complained about DMJim's latest entry as "not having a costume," but then another person loved it, and felt the clothing absolutely fit with the character concept (and I agree with this person---the lack of spandex was not disturbing to me, heh). It's fascinating, seeing how one person's dislike is another person's plus. I wish more of the voters would at least post as to *why* they voted for a character---because I like seeing what it was that appealed to them, for whichever character it was. That whole thing with DMJim's character is a great example of that.

Anyway, enough of my random thoughts about the competition. We're all having fun, and we're seeing awesome and fun art, and some great character concepts---what more could you ask for? ;)

Dazzler
03-26-2008, 02:17 PM
I don't think that sounds like sour grapes at all, Sol. I think that's a very solid and genuine opinion. I think the total package has to be considered, not just the drawing. Not only does the character design have to be interesting, the execution should be interesting, and the back story should be interesting. My favorites in the competition aren't the "crowd pleasers" here, it's the ones who consider everything. ultimately, though, I feel like there's a certain group there that know each other and are playing for each other.

I'm going to vent something of my own that could be construed as sour grapes...I'm kinda annoyed that the certain people seem to be voting for certain players in each round. It kinda skews the contest, to me, to be voting for pals based on that only. Now, I don't really know if they're pals, but it just strikes me that way.


Anyway, you're right: I basically signed up just to have the challenge of creating something within parameters. And to practice my photoshop skills. It's been a HOOT!

--Dazz

Aggie
03-26-2008, 05:19 PM
Well, for once I voted for myself. It wasn't to keep myself in the competition, but rather because I'm just so darned passionate about what Sage Guardian represents: it's a really serious situation going on in Nevada, and if ever a state needed a superhero like her, Nevada needs it. Too bad she's not real, sigh.

I have a feeling captainbosh is going to win this year's CBRunway, because he consistently has the strongest presentation of comic book style art (and it's *very* good). However, I get kind of disappointed sometimes with his character info---to me, he never gives enough about his heroes' chosen foes (street crime? supervillains? corporate cartels? the govt.?). To me, a hero isn't just *there*---a hero is someone who is there for a *reason*: there's something they're fighting for, or against. The purpose of his latest character was to emulate her something-great grandfather, Ethan Allen, as a militaryesque hero. That's all well and good---but what does she *do*? Who does she apply her skills *against*? Hopefully he'll begin fleshing this kind of thing out with his later characters. Clever art is great, awesome drawing skills and costume concepts are great; but as I understand the competition, it's supposed to include the *character* concept as well---and to me, one of the main points of that is giving the *purpose* the character acts on, the thing that's central to their life as a superhero (or super villain).

Otherwise, it's like saying "well, Batman fights bad guys" and leaving it at that. When you talk about Batman, you talk about his role as a protector for the populace, and how that means he takes on everything from ordinary criminals to twisted insane villains, and how he never kills, but instead catches them for the police to arrest, and how he uses his detetcive skills and his fighting ability to do it. Leaving all that out and just saying "he fights bad guys" reduces the character immeasurably, and takes away his purpose---the thing that defines him and makes him separate and individual from anyone else who "fights bad guys."

I hesitated about posting this, because I thought some might see it as sour grapes on my part---but then I thought, "Well, this is my honest opinion, and it's bugging me that people seem so wowed with his art that they're overlooking something basic that's mostly missing in his character concept descriptions, so why not say it? If someone thinks it's sour grapes, so be it. So long as *I* know it isn't, that's good enough."

I have a feeling that he's going to win it overall, and that's fine; my hope is that he brings his character descriptions up to the level of his artwork, because then there'd be no question in my mind about whether or not he actually *is* meeting the requirements best of everyone in the challenge. He does exquisite comic style work, with great poses and details, and has come up with some cool concepts for heroes, abilities, etc. It's just that missing bit that I think is so vital (in creating a comic character), that messes with my head on his entries... and it bugs me.

As for my stuff, while I do well (IMO) in coming up with character concepts, history, etc., I don't expect to win, because IMO my art isn't in the best style to win (and is often inconsistent), and because I tend to get too wordy with my character info. I try to cut it back, but it seems like there's always something important, or something that adds fun or flavor to it, that just *has* to be in there. However, I *am* having lots of fun in the competition, and it's forcing me to explore new concepts and to try new things with my art, along with making me produce something every week---so all that makes it well worth it, in my book. :)

I also like reading the feedback, both on mine and other characters. One thing I've found very interesting is that the one thing someone complains about in a character, another person really likes. For instance, one guy complained about DMJim's latest entry as "not having a costume," but then another person loved it, and felt the clothing absolutely fit with the character concept (and I agree with this person---the lack of spandex was not disturbing to me, heh). It's fascinating, seeing how one person's dislike is another person's plus. I wish more of the voters would at least post as to *why* they voted for a character---because I like seeing what it was that appealed to them, for whichever character it was. That whole thing with DMJim's character is a great example of that.

Anyway, enough of my random thoughts about the competition. We're all having fun, and we're seeing awesome and fun art, and some great character concepts---what more could you ask for? ;)

honestly, it was really hard to choose between you and dazz because you both really thought about the character. i really dig the fact that they are both very strong female characters too. but it was "empire" overall concept that got me and it really sucks that we can only vote for one person, because you all did an amazing job, you've all done a consistently amazing job and deserve to go further into the competition.

Solaris
03-26-2008, 06:33 PM
honestly, it was really hard to choose between you and dazz because you both really thought about the character. i really dig the fact that they are both very strong female characters too. but it was "empire" overall concept that got me and it really sucks that we can only vote for one person, because you all did an amazing job, you've all done a consistently amazing job and deserve to go further into the competition.

:D Trust me, I'm glad you voted the one you thought the best. That's what it's all about. I was sorely tempted to vote for Empire myself, and may well have, if I wasn't so biased this time toward my own character's background. (And yeah, this time I was biased and I know it; but I'm also objective enough to know that there were many others who would've been choices I'd want to vote for, if I wasn't biased.) I also really loved DMJim's Louisann' gal and Whiterose's Arizona undead, and my other favorite was the girl for Hawaii. All those were actually my top picks this round, along with New York.

Different things are going to appeal to different people, and that's part of what makes the contest fun. :) And thank you for the compliments on my entry---it's much appreciated.


Dazz, well, when you have an open vote, you're going to get all kinds of votes. Some people are going to seriously consider each entry, and try to judge them the best they can by how they see the particular challenge's requirements. Some are going to go for the best art, in their opinion. Some are going to vote for someone they feel is an underdog. Some are going to support their friends. When you stop and think about it, each approach has value, because this really isn't a professional contest. If it were, they'd have a panel of three or five judges from the industry, and likely the prizes would be more along the lines of getting a limited run for your comic, or getting a single issue published, or something like that. I'm actually a lot less concerned about the voters and why they vote, than I am about trying to give an honest critique for each entry, because it's the critiques that can help you as an artist and character creator.

As much as we all like to bitch about the strange (at times) opinions of the judges on the real Project Runway show, IMO the show is still far better off having the judging panel than if America could vote for the winners, because on average the rest of us know far less about the fashion industry than they do. (Though we all have *opinions* on what looks great, blah, or terrible! heh) The judges for that show all see the latest lines in all the different forms of fashion, from "everyday wear" to haute couture---most of us see only a bit of it.

And in a way, I think having America vote is something that at times hurts the "Make Me a Supermodel" show---and I'm sincerely hoping that for the final choice, it's done by judge panel decision rather than America voting. (Though I must say that, so far in HGTV's Design Star competition, when America gets to vote for the winner, American IMO has chosen the best contestant each time. I guess there's just a lot of us who know what we do and don't like in a home, hee.) I don't know how the voting system suceeds or fails for American Idol, because I quit watching that show a long time ago.

Aggie
03-26-2008, 07:20 PM
:D Trust me, I'm glad you voted the one you thought the best. That's what it's all about. I was sorely tempted to vote for Empire myself, and may well have, if I wasn't so biased this time toward my own character's background. (And yeah, this time I was biased and I know it; but I'm also objective enough to know that there were many others who would've been choices I'd want to vote for, if I wasn't biased.) I also really loved DMJim's Louisann' gal and Whiterose's Arizona undead, and my other favorite was the girl for Hawaii. All those were actually my top picks this round, along with New York.

Different things are going to appeal to different people, and that's part of what makes the contest fun. :) And thank you for the compliments on my entry---it's much appreciated.


Dazz, well, when you have an open vote, you're going to get all kinds of votes. Some people are going to seriously consider each entry, and try to judge them the best they can by how they see the particular challenge's requirements. Some are going to go for the best art, in their opinion. Some are going to vote for someone they feel is an underdog. Some are going to support their friends. When you stop and think about it, each approach has value, because this really isn't a professional contest. If it were, they'd have a panel of three or five judges from the industry, and likely the prizes would be more along the lines of getting a limited run for your comic, or getting a single issue published, or something like that. I'm actually a lot less concerned about the voters and why they vote, than I am about trying to give an honest critique for each entry, because it's the critiques that can help you as an artist and character creator.

As much as we all like to bitch about the strange (at times) opinions of the judges on the real Project Runway show, IMO the show is still far better off having the judging panel than if America could vote for the winners, because on average the rest of us know far less about the fashion industry than they do. (Though we all have *opinions* on what looks great, blah, or terrible! heh) The judges for that show all see the latest lines in all the different forms of fashion, from "everyday wear" to haute couture---most of us see only a bit of it.

And in a way, I think having America vote is something that at times hurts the "Make Me a Supermodel" show---and I'm sincerely hoping that for the final choice, it's done by judge panel decision rather than America voting. (Though I must say that, so far in HGTV's Design Star competition, when America gets to vote for the winner, American IMO has chosen the best contestant each time. I guess there's just a lot of us who know what we do and don't like in a home, hee.) I don't know how the voting system suceeds or fails for American Idol, because I quit watching that show a long time ago.

looking at your stuff, i think you guys could create a pretty darn great team comic based on these these characters. it would be a great alternative to the team books we see in mainstream comics now.

DungeonmasterJim
03-26-2008, 07:42 PM
It's not a big deal to me this year if people vote for themselves because a number of people have done so out of stratedgy. I'm trying to survive without voting for myself but I might have to if i want to continue on - that is if I make the cut this round.

I also noticed CaptinBosh's popularity. I think he's an awesome artist and I think that mainly keeps him securing so many votes. The competition's also part popularity contest too. Last year some people - not sure if they were just voters or participants - actually made new accounts to vote for their favorite entry. Matt caught on and eliminated those people.

I enojy the whole contest. It keeps me drawing when other times I totally slack off from drawing anything. I'm also guilty of voting for entries based only off the costume. :o If something keeps catching my eye I'll usually vote for it. So far, when I've done this it's by artists that don't seem as skilled as others so I feel not so guilty about it.

Meh, I'm just blabbing now. I don't get to worked up over this contest but I do make an effort to put in a decent entry each challenge I'm in.

DM Jim

Solaris
03-26-2008, 09:29 PM
I think it's okay to vote for yourself, even though we tend to be programmed against such things. I have my own criteria for doing it, and for me most of the time I'd rather not do it, but I do okay at fighting that programmed guilt I can't help feeling for doing it. If that makes any sense at all. LOL. :D

DungeonmasterJim
03-27-2008, 07:39 PM
I got the boot this round. While I'm disappointed I don't have the added pressure of trying to come up with something as I spend the next three days out of state at a gaming convention that I've been looking forward to for a few weeks now!

Feel free, participants, to post your entries here while I'm away.

DM Jim

Dazzler
03-27-2008, 09:48 PM
I got the boot this round. While I'm disappointed I don't have the added pressure of trying to come up with something as I spend the next three days out of state at a gaming convention that I've been looking forward to for a few weeks now!

Feel free, participants, to post your entries here while I'm away.

DM Jim

Jim, I think it sucks that you got "offed." I definitely think your design was cool, and didn't deserve to get voted off. I'm sorry! :(

--Dazz

Dazzler
03-27-2008, 09:50 PM
:D Trust me, I'm glad you voted the one you thought the best. That's what it's all about. I was sorely tempted to vote for Empire myself, and may well have, if I wasn't so biased this time toward my own character's background. (And yeah, this time I was biased and I know it; but I'm also objective enough to know that there were many others who would've been choices I'd want to vote for, if I wasn't biased.) I also really loved DMJim's Louisann' gal and Whiterose's Arizona undead, and my other favorite was the girl for Hawaii. All those were actually my top picks this round, along with New York.

Different things are going to appeal to different people, and that's part of what makes the contest fun. :) And thank you for the compliments on my entry---it's much appreciated.


Dazz, well, when you have an open vote, you're going to get all kinds of votes. Some people are going to seriously consider each entry, and try to judge them the best they can by how they see the particular challenge's requirements. Some are going to go for the best art, in their opinion. Some are going to vote for someone they feel is an underdog. Some are going to support their friends. When you stop and think about it, each approach has value, because this really isn't a professional contest. If it were, they'd have a panel of three or five judges from the industry, and likely the prizes would be more along the lines of getting a limited run for your comic, or getting a single issue published, or something like that. I'm actually a lot less concerned about the voters and why they vote, than I am about trying to give an honest critique for each entry, because it's the critiques that can help you as an artist and character creator.

As much as we all like to bitch about the strange (at times) opinions of the judges on the real Project Runway show, IMO the show is still far better off having the judging panel than if America could vote for the winners, because on average the rest of us know far less about the fashion industry than they do. (Though we all have *opinions* on what looks great, blah, or terrible! heh) The judges for that show all see the latest lines in all the different forms of fashion, from "everyday wear" to haute couture---most of us see only a bit of it.

And in a way, I think having America vote is something that at times hurts the "Make Me a Supermodel" show---and I'm sincerely hoping that for the final choice, it's done by judge panel decision rather than America voting. (Though I must say that, so far in HGTV's Design Star competition, when America gets to vote for the winner, American IMO has chosen the best contestant each time. I guess there's just a lot of us who know what we do and don't like in a home, hee.) I don't know how the voting system suceeds or fails for American Idol, because I quit watching that show a long time ago.

:) Thanks, Solairs. Like I said, I was just venting my sour grapes. I totally agree with your assessment, though. I'm not thinking too much on it in the long run, anyway, because it is just a game, and I'm having a blast! I can even feel my photoshop skills benefitting!

--Dazz

Dazzler
03-27-2008, 09:51 PM
Anyway! here's my design for this challenge, I spent all day on it! (Spring Break, bay-bee!)

Lady Day
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2028/2368479196_de94154da5_o.jpg
--Dazz

Solaris
03-28-2008, 12:55 AM
My condolences, DMJim. I really liked the Swamp Rat. :( Are you going to keep playing in the "Play at home" thread?

(And yes, I'm not on here much at the moment, folks, because I'm working hard on my design, trying to get it in early for a change---and this one is a LOT of work.)

WhiteRose
03-28-2008, 01:51 AM
Awww DMJ. Sorry to see you got knocked out fella. I thought the Swamp Rat was pretty damn plucky :)

I have that sinking feeling I'll be next on the list, scraping through by the skin of my teeth and with my crippling sense of self-preservation.

WhiteRose
03-28-2008, 01:56 AM
Anyway! here's my design for this challenge, I spent all day on it! (Spring Break, bay-bee!)

Lady Day
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2028/2368479196_de94154da5_o.jpg
--Dazz

Jeez Dazz, you upped the ante on this one. I love it!

Question: I am new at Photoshop, but what filter did you use to get the comic book dots?

THE GOLDEN AGE HAS ME STUMPED.

Dazzler
03-28-2008, 01:58 AM
I have that sinking feeling I'll be next on the list, scraping through by the skin of my teeth and with my crippling sense of self-preservation.

NO YOU ARE NOT! Don't even think that way. Your designs have been consistently praised, and I'm pretty sure you're gonna do fine. 'Sides, I don't want you to go!

--Dazz

Dazzler
03-28-2008, 02:05 AM
Jeez Dazz, you upped the ante on this one. I love it!
Thanks, WhiteRose. ;) I wanted to do something more this time since Empire was not entirely successful (they're even re-doing New York in the play at home thread....ugh.) I'm REALLY happy with this one.

Question: I am new at Photoshop, but what filter did you use to get the comic book dots?
I'm fairly new myself, so I'm doing it the easy way. (My friend says that there are two ways..but I just don't get the other way...)
Basically, it's a filter. Look for "Color halftone" under the Pixelate filter. Then, once it applies, go to edit and click on the "Fade halftone" command. That way, you can make the dots as big or as small as you want! Good luck! Holler at me if you need more help with it.

THE GOLDEN AGE HAS ME STUMPED.
Try Wikipedia-ing "The Golden Age of Comics." From there, there might be some other things that you can link to to get some ideas.

--Dazz

Dazzler
03-28-2008, 02:15 AM
EDIT: Rassum Frassum double-headed post.

--Dazz

DungeonmasterJim
03-28-2008, 05:50 AM
Thanks for the props guys.

Dazz, your Golden Age character is really awesome. I instantly got the impression that she is from a bygone era from the hair style and clothes and then that's backed up by the printing dots. I already know that your creation will be in my favorites without having seen anything else yet. It's THAT good to me.

For this week;s challenge Solaris I'm going to cheat a little. I have a story that I haven't drawn yet for my super-heroes that uses villains from the 1950's making a comeback. I may not color the picture but I already have one done so it'll be easy to throw on-line Monday. I leave for my gaming con, ConnCon for those interested, in about 45 minutes as of this writing and have a couple of things to do first.

DM Jim

WhiteRose
03-29-2008, 01:26 AM
So here's design 4! Hoooo boy...

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y98/RedThorn/CCI00119colourfullcrop.jpg

The End-Worlder. I blame a Matchbox 20 song and that delightful bottle of red I had last night.

Solaris
03-29-2008, 03:11 AM
Here's mine. I worked on him from noon yesterday until now (with some breaks for eating, sleeping, and family stuff, heh). Whew, I'm tired. I did a ton of research on Golden Age comics, and put a lot of time into studying aspects of G.A. art---I hope it comes through with the pic. And yes, once I finally got the dynamic drawing I wanted, well, he had to be holding someone up, so then the Nazi foe got in there... and next thing I knew, I was designing a full-blown faux-cover. It was a lot of hard work and a lot of fun---but the best thing about it for me was Troy telling me that my art has improved, and that I'm getting faster with it. :D

Anyway, here he is, hope you like him:

http://album.hanamoira.com/albums/userpics/10003/stryped1.jpg

s33r
03-29-2008, 04:00 AM
Anyway! here's my design for this challenge, I spent all day on it! (Spring Break, bay-bee!)

Lady Day
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2028/2368479196_de94154da5_o.jpg
--Dazz

Okay, um, sorry. I have to weigh in here. She is GORGEOUS.

Hubba hubba.

*Goes back to lurking*

Aggie
03-29-2008, 09:24 AM
WOWZA!!

*hearts dazz's "Lady Day" cuz i loves me some Billie*...

*hearts* sol's "strype banner" cuz it's so old school and the nazi uniform is bang on and i'm a whole for details...

*heart's* rosie's "end-worlder" cuz it's subversively funny...

i love this thread!!

Solaris
03-29-2008, 12:00 PM
WOWZA!!

*hearts dazz's "Lady Day" cuz i loves me some Billie*...

*hearts* sol's "strype banner" cuz it's so old school and the nazi uniform is bang on and i'm a whole for details...

*heart's* rosie's "end-worlder" cuz it's subversively funny...

i love this thread!!


Thank you for noticing! :D *squee*

*chuckles* You have no idea how many Nazi pics I have on my computer now---I spent some time researching uniforms, because I wanted to get it as right as I could. The hardest part was getting the Iron Eagle patch on his jacket to lay on the material properly---I had to contort it quite a bit to get it to follow the fabric's ups and downs, from where it's being creased by the pull on it. The ribbon and cross were a bear, too---especially getting the cross to both look right, and look like it's lying nearly flat/at an angle.

This pic was an exercise for me in dynamic pose, proportion, and doing line treatments etc. appropriate to the period's comics. I spent an entire day just getting the pencils right---and because I do my stuff weird, had to use the mouse to draw in the shadow lines/texture lines/movement lines etc. after I got it scanned, cleaned up, and colored. Very tedious work, but worth it.

I love Lady Day and End Worlder too. She's a cool character (I almost went Noir for this challenge), and he's got that wonderful campy fun theme in his backstory. Looking at the stuff posted in the challenge thread so far, once again it's going to be a stiff competition.

And a big thank you to Dazz for sharing how to get the halftone "dots" effect! That really helped. :)

Dazzler
03-29-2008, 01:59 PM
Thanks for the props guys.
You deserve them. I'm looking forward to your designs for the challenges left!

Dazz, your Golden Age character is really awesome. I instantly got the impression that she is from a bygone era from the hair style and clothes and then that's backed up by the printing dots. I already know that your creation will be in my favorites without having seen anything else yet. It's THAT good to me.
Thank you, Jim...I really appreciate that! I can honestly say, this has been my favorite challenge yet, because I'm such a sucker for the 40's and the Golden Age...especially Noir-ish type characters. I'm glad she struck you as a good fit for the time period!

--Dazz

Dazzler
03-29-2008, 02:02 PM
So here's design 4! Hoooo boy...

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y98/RedThorn/CCI00119colourfullcrop.jpg

The End-Worlder. I blame a Matchbox 20 song and that delightful bottle of red I had last night.
I LOVE him! LOL! He's is so fun! I especially love the uber-cute pissed off cat, that doesn't really seem like he wanted to be saved! Excellent job, Rose!
Here's mine. I worked on him from noon yesterday until now (with some breaks for eating, sleeping, and family stuff, heh). Whew, I'm tired. I did a ton of research on Golden Age comics, and put a lot of time into studying aspects of G.A. art---I hope it comes through with the pic. And yes, once I finally got the dynamic drawing I wanted, well, he had to be holding someone up, so then the Nazi foe got in there... and next thing I knew, I was designing a full-blown faux-cover. It was a lot of hard work and a lot of fun---but the best thing about it for me was Troy telling me that my art has improved, and that I'm getting faster with it. :D

Anyway, here he is, hope you like him:

http://album.hanamoira.com/albums/userpics/10003/strype.jpg
:eek: BADASS, Solaris! That's fantastic! No lie, I would read a book about him, just based on the swell old-school feel of that cover and how rad that costume is.

--Dazz

Dazzler
03-29-2008, 02:06 PM
Okay, um, sorry. I have to weigh in here. She is GORGEOUS.

Hubba hubba.

*Goes back to lurking*

LOL! Thanks! Just be sure to mind your P's and Q's or she might have to teach you a lesson about how to speak to a lady! heehee


*hearts dazz's "Lady Day" cuz i loves me some Billie*...

And you know what, Aggie? I heart you for hearting Lady Day and Billie.

--Dazz

Dazzler
03-29-2008, 02:08 PM
*chuckles* You have no idea how many Nazi pics I have on my computer now-
Okay, Sol, if you get a call from the feds, you be sure to know where you are so we can bail you out! heehee! You did a great job of researching that uniform.

And a big thank you to Dazz for sharing how to get the halftone "dots" effect! That really helped. :)
Absolutely no problem. I'm happy to share!

--Dazz

Solaris
03-29-2008, 04:04 PM
:eek: BADASS, Solaris! That's fantastic! No lie, I would read a book about him, just based on the swell old-school feel of that cover and how rad that costume is.

--Dazz


Thanks, Dazz! I had a lot of fun with him. His powers are very similar to others from the time---but again, that was pretty common with the "patriotic superhero" motif. I found at least three male characters who had the full-blown red white and blue costume theme (complete with white stars), and a lot more who had the colors plus gold in their costumes, or who had a patriotic background/name. Besides Captain America, there was The Human Shield, some guy (I think his name was The Red Flame, but couldn't verify it for sure), in particular with the same theme on their costumes---and, even the Fighting Yank, who ran around in more of a period costume, complete with tri-corner hat.

Part of the fun for me was in giving at least a bare mention to his team, and coming up with names for them as well. (Of them all, I only found one that's been used: The Patrioteer, and that was in a modern comic being done for that period.) There was a Liberty Belle character, but I made mine Liberty Belle Oakley, giving her the tie-in to Annie Oakley (and there used to be a comic about *her*, IIRC). The Monument is obviously a full-brick character, and a nod to the Washington Monument; Audey Weld (the inventor/mechanic) fills a type, his last name is obvious, but I threw in "Audey" as a tip to Audey Murphy. Agent True-Blue (codename), the spy in the group, is a nod both to the detective comics and the spy stories of the day---every group needs Intel, right? And I made The Patrioteer a pilot, because there were TONS of "Ace Pilot" comics back then.

If I had a time machine, I'd take all this back to the period and do a comic series about them. I don't think it would work for today... but back then, I think it would do quite well. :)

Dazzler
04-01-2008, 03:30 PM
DungeonmasterJim's
Yankee Doodle Darling

Yankee Doodle Darling

http://www.comicspace.com/jamesroberts/uploaded/6145/1206990191_YJdg2mLzKC.jpg


Asd FYI, I lurve it. Especially cuz she's a baddie. ;)

--Dazz

Solaris
04-01-2008, 04:21 PM
DungeonmasterJim's
Yankee Doodle Darling


Asd FYI, I lurve it. Especially cuz she's a baddie. ;)

--Dazz

Yes that IS cool---great work, DMJim! :)

Dazzler
04-01-2008, 04:32 PM
Yes that IS cool---great work, DMJim! :)

As soon as I saw her I had this scene in my head where there are villains doing their thing and Yankee Doodle Darling shows up and the crowd's like "YAY! Help is here!"
Then YDD blows them all up. ;)

--Dazz

Dazzler
04-01-2008, 04:33 PM
Thanks, Dazz! I had a lot of fun with him. His powers are very similar to others from the time---but again, that was pretty common with the "patriotic superhero" motif. I found at least three male characters who had the full-blown red white and blue costume theme (complete with white stars), and a lot more who had the colors plus gold in their costumes, or who had a patriotic background/name. Besides Captain America, there was The Human Shield, some guy (I think his name was The Red Flame, but couldn't verify it for sure), in particular with the same theme on their costumes---and, even the Fighting Yank, who ran around in more of a period costume, complete with tri-corner hat.

Part of the fun for me was in giving at least a bare mention to his team, and coming up with names for them as well. (Of them all, I only found one that's been used: The Patrioteer, and that was in a modern comic being done for that period.) There was a Liberty Belle character, but I made mine Liberty Belle Oakley, giving her the tie-in to Annie Oakley (and there used to be a comic about *her*, IIRC). The Monument is obviously a full-brick character, and a nod to the Washington Monument; Audey Weld (the inventor/mechanic) fills a type, his last name is obvious, but I threw in "Audey" as a tip to Audey Murphy. Agent True-Blue (codename), the spy in the group, is a nod both to the detective comics and the spy stories of the day---every group needs Intel, right? And I made The Patrioteer a pilot, because there were TONS of "Ace Pilot" comics back then.

If I had a time machine, I'd take all this back to the period and do a comic series about them. I don't think it would work for today... but back then, I think it would do quite well. :)

Sorry, Solaris, I didn't see this. I think the coolest part of your entry is that you also came up with original ideas for his team-mates. That's pretty rad. And Liberty Belle Oakley sounds awesome! Is there any chance you could draw her up and post her? I'm curious to see how she looks. Hell, I want to see the whole team. I'm really digging this design.

--Dazz

Pink Bat Maxine
04-01-2008, 04:45 PM
Thanks, WhiteRose. ;) I wanted to do something more this time since Empire was not entirely successful (they're even re-doing New York in the play at home thread....ugh.)

I looked at that, and as someone who's lived in or had ties to NYS since Jr. high, I look at New York Minute and Spyre and think.... "WHAT?!?!!!"

There's more to the city than the state folks.

This is where my parents live:
http://adlersantiqueautos.com/images/fodreams2.jpg

This is about where I was living when I went to high school:
http://www.realtyusa.com/regionslideshow/binghamton_slideshow1.jpg

This is where I went to college:
http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/a/a7/500px-April_06_(26)1.jpg

Solaris
04-01-2008, 04:49 PM
Sorry, Solaris, I didn't see this. I think the coolest part of your entry is that you also came up with original ideas for his team-mates. That's pretty rad. And Liberty Belle Oakley sounds awesome! Is there any chance you could draw her up and post her? I'm curious to see how she looks. Hell, I want to see the whole team. I'm really digging this design.

--Dazz

Thanks, Dazz. I had a lot of fun coming up with the concept, and I think subconsiously I wanted to throw in the "team" idea so as to differientiate him a bit more from the "Captain Americas" etc. :)

Dazzler
04-01-2008, 04:53 PM
Thanks, Dazz. I had a lot of fun coming up with the concept, and I think subconsiously I wanted to throw in the "team" idea so as to differientiate him a bit more from the "Captain Americas" etc. :)

No problem Solaris. :)
So, ARE you gonna draw up the other guys so we could mmmmaybe see a team shot? (Audey Murphy actually died not far from my home town. Still one of my dad's all-time heroes.)

--Dazz

DungeonmasterJim
04-01-2008, 07:58 PM
Hey all,

Glad you guys liked Yankee Doodle Darling. The big flirt can put on a big hurt. She's part of a gang I've vreated called The Union of Crime. It has 3 other living members and none of them are happy that the world has forgotten them - but hey, they've been out of the limelight for some 40 years!

I'll try and post the picture of the Union of Crime that I have lying around. Yesterday was... explosive... :o ... after some food poisoning from the gaming con I went to this past weekend.

DM Jim

Solaris
04-01-2008, 08:13 PM
No problem Solaris. :)
So, ARE you gonna draw up the other guys so we could mmmmaybe see a team shot? (Audey Murphy actually died not far from my home town. Still one of my dad's all-time heroes.)

--Dazz

I'll try to when I get a chance. Right now I'm still trying to finish up my "V" picture for the "Draw 'V'" thread... I posted the rough sketch, but am in process of shading it, and it's a bitch with an entirely black costume of different materials (this one is a pencil drawing, not colored or anything).

Solaris
04-03-2008, 03:08 PM
Matt has handed us an interesting challenge this go round (5): we have to take a randomly-chosen character from the last round, and revamp it for modern comics. This can include time travel, cryo, or even a legacy of the mantle.

I got Whiterose's The End Worlder. At first I was sweating, trying to think of what on earth I could do with the concept (it's a cool character, btw)---and then I realized how incredibly lucky I was, because I thought of a very fun way to modernize the concept. *squee with delight*

I only hope Whiterose likes what I'm doing with the concept! *fingers crossed*

Anyway, Mattbib's also changed the rules on submissions---so you won't be seeing our pics from now on (here, or on the A&W Showcase forum) until Matt posts the voting thread on Tuesdays.

I actually like this change: there'll be no more question about people copying others, and there's gonna be some intense excitement and anticipation building all week, until he releases our designs. (We now have to PM them to him, to submit---so neither you, nor we, will see any entries until he posts that voting thread.) This also means that everyone, no matter how early or late, will get equal time exposure with the voters---and the voters will see every design for the first time all at once, so all of them will be fresh to their eyes.

So, we can't post our pics here until he puts them up in the voting thread---hope those of you following us in the contest will be as patient (and eager) as we will be, to see what everyone's done next Tuesday! :D

DungeonmasterJim
04-03-2008, 08:13 PM
I'm glad everyone made it through. When last I check about 8 people looked to have 1 vote each and I was wondering if half the people playing would be eliminated.

DM Jim

Solaris
04-03-2008, 10:03 PM
I'm glad everyone made it through. When last I check about 8 people looked to have 1 vote each and I was wondering if half the people playing would be eliminated.

DM Jim


Yeah, I wondered too... but lots of votes tend to come in during the last 12 hrs. of the voting. I figured I'd be eliminated.

This challenge is driving me nuts. I've got the character concept, write-up, and costume design finished---I'm just having major trouble this time with the drawing. It's driving me bananas. I got one pencil done, hated it, and started another. This one's in a better pose, but the proportions are being contrary---I've half worn out my eraser, reworking it to try to get it right. Sigh.

But I'll make it work if it kills me. ;)

DungeonmasterJim
04-06-2008, 12:36 PM
The last two challenges were create a Golden Age character and then the next challenge was to update an entrant's character tro modern times.

I've been working on some designs for some Golden Age villains that come back to modern times so I pretty much had this challenge done for some time. Since I've been eliminated I posted these in the CBR: Play at Home thread.

Yankee Doodle Darling super villain

Golden Age costume:

http://www.comicspace.com/jamesroberts/uploaded/6145/1207506445_4iwc6g_thx.jpg

Modern costume:

http://www.comicspace.com/jamesroberts/uploaded/6145/1207506469_XFCwa5Hy19.jpg

DM Jim

Solaris
04-08-2008, 11:01 AM
Our assignment was to modernize (cryo, time travel, via legacy, etc.) someone's design from the previous challenge. We did a random draw, and I got Whiterose's End Worlder (I think I lucked out with that!).

So here's my modernized version of THE END WORLDER:

http://album.hanamoira.com/albums/userpics/10003/endworlder9.jpg

Hope you all like it, especially Whiterose! :smile:

Solaris
04-08-2008, 01:22 PM
And here are Dazzler's and Whiterose's pics:


Dazzler's COPPER COURTESANS:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2057/2389891687_434a738944_o.jpg


WhiteRose's RÖNTGEN:

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y98/RedThorn/CCI00120colourfinalcrop.jpg

DungeonmasterJim
04-08-2008, 07:04 PM
My excuse for not posting those sooner was that I was in bed sleeping when the voting thread was finally created. And I'm sticking to that.

Excellent entries but I really enjoy Solaris's the best of the three. Sorry Daz and WhiteRose. :redface:

DM Jim

Solaris
04-08-2008, 07:48 PM
My excuse for not posting those sooner was that I was in bed sleeping when the voting thread was finally created. And I'm sticking to that.

Excellent entries but I really enjoy Solaris's the best of the three. Sorry Daz and WhiteRose. :redface:

DM Jim

Thanks, Jim---but WhiteRose gave me a lot to work with (and I'm over the moon that she liked it so much!).

I loved the visual design of Whiterose's Rontgen---I said a lot on that are in the voting thread, but basically the name change, costume design, etc. really FITS, and is brilliant. With Dazz's, my favorite part was the link into the cloning stuff with Nazis who fled to South America (wasn't there some movie about Argentenian or Chilean Nazis having cloned Hitler?). Anyway, taking that German operative character to the cloning level was sheer genius. :)

As for you, I loved your Yankee Doodle Darling in the Play at Home thread... and I enjoyed both yours, and other's, updates on her. I honestly *do* read the Play at Home thread---I just don't comment in it as much as I ought. But I AM checking out the designs there---and there's lots of cool stuff going on there, too. :)

WhiteRose
04-08-2008, 08:20 PM
My excuse for not posting those sooner was that I was in bed sleeping when the voting thread was finally created. And I'm sticking to that.

Excellent entries but I really enjoy Solaris's the best of the three. Sorry Daz and WhiteRose. :redface:

DM Jim

Feh, are you kidding?! I love Solaris's best of all! Though Dazzler's gives me a giggle. I think it's the simply 'I'm not amused' look on their faces which CRACKS ME UP.

I figure, that when it comes down to the closing hours of vote and if I didn't get any (which, honestly? I really don't think it'll be surprising this round), I'm not going to give in to my unrelenting sense of self-preservation and instead vote for Solaris. Because I want Sol to last another few rounds, and to help get her immunity on the next round is the best way to see that happen.

Dazzler
04-08-2008, 09:48 PM
Excellent entries but I really enjoy Solaris's the best of the three. Sorry Daz and WhiteRose. :redface:

DM Jim
No need to apologize, Jim, Solaris's is FANTASTIC!!!
By the way, your modernizations rock. I especially love your Street Eagle...the boots are killer. :)


With Dazz's, my favorite part was the link into the cloning stuff with Nazis who fled to South America (wasn't there some movie about Argentenian or Chilean Nazis having cloned Hitler?). Anyway, taking that German operative character to the cloning level was sheer genius. :)

Solaris, your entry is phenomenal. PinkBatmaxine and I were at work today looking at it, simply amazed. I love the star field and her face is so serene and amazing. And the story works perfectly with her. Congratulations! Looks like you might take the cake this round!

And thank you for the compliments. I thought I was being SO original with that story until PinkBatMaxine told me, "You know, that's a lot like the Boys From Brazil." :frown:
But, I went and looked it up and figured that it I was going to keep it despite, and that it differed enough that I could keep it. OR, Dr. Korpse was a fan of the book and thought it was a good idea. LOL!

Though Dazzler's gives me a giggle. I think it's the simply 'I'm not amused' look on their faces which CRACKS ME UP
Oh, no! Is that a good thing?
I love the redesign of the Human X-Ray, WhiteRose, the drawing on it is *really* fun. I love his pants, too!


--Dazz

Pink Bat Maxine
04-08-2008, 09:54 PM
Oh, no! Is that a good thing?

I have a feeling that if you see a CC looking at you, holding a ginormous gun, with that look on her face it would be a very bad thing indeed.

(Now that THAT'S in, I assume you have time to do the color thingimawhosit on an Alpine Ghost? Or I go into work tomorrow and tell the student that your pockets are stuffed with lemon drops!)

The CCs are awesome. It's between them and the End Worlder for me this round, but there were good showings all around.

Dazzler
04-08-2008, 10:03 PM
I have a feeling that if you see a CC looking at you, holding a ginormous gun, with that look on her face it would be a very bad thing indeed.

Now there's logic I simply cannot argue with. :tongue:

(Now that THAT'S in, I assume you have time to do the color thingimawhosit on an Alpine Ghost? Or I go into work tomorrow and tell the student that your pockets are stuffed with lemon drops!)
Okay, okay! No need to possibly get me killed! Heehee!
(I'm working on her right now, and let me say, I'm pleased. I'll show you tomorrow.)

The CCs are awesome. It's between them and the End Worlder for me this round, but there were good showings all around.

Thank you PBM, I do appreciate it.

(BTW, did you know you left your sketch book here in my scanner?!)

--Dazz

Solaris
04-08-2008, 10:37 PM
No need to apologize, Jim, Solaris's is FANTASTIC!!!
By the way, your modernizations rock. I especially love your Street Eagle...the boots are killer. :)


Solaris, your entry is phenomenal. PinkBatmaxine and I were at work today looking at it, simply amazed. I love the star field and her face is so serene and amazing. And the story works perfectly with her. Congratulations! Looks like you might take the cake this round!

And thank you for the compliments. I thought I was being SO original with that story until PinkBatMaxine told me, "You know, that's a lot like the Boys From Brazil." :frown:
But, I went and looked it up and figured that it I was going to keep it despite, and that it differed enough that I could keep it. OR, Dr. Korpse was a fan of the book and thought it was a good idea. LOL!


Oh, no! Is that a good thing?
I love the redesign of the Human X-Ray, WhiteRose, the drawing on it is *really* fun. I love his pants, too!


--Dazz

Thanks, to both you and Maxine!

I am SOOO stoked right now---whether I take this round or not, the fact that I was in the lead for a while still simply floors me: I've felt like a fish out of water, in one way or another, for all the previous rounds. Once I finally got it into my thick skull that the design matters more than the art style, it really helped---though with the last round I couldn't really do that, since to me "Golden Age" meant trying to ape that style, artistically.

The one thing I was afraid might really count against me, this round, was that I used the "bodysuit" like I did in the first round---but this time, the concept I came up with just called for something that streamlined, allowing the bodysuit's starfield to take center stage on it. It was a gamble, and so far it seems to have been a good choice. Well, heck, I think stylistically it was a good choice anyway---but it's gratifying to think that so many others think so, too. The medallion, belt, and cape were the real identifying factors in WhiteRose's concept, IMO, and I wanted those to stand out; the starfield was the way the suit had its own role, rather than simply being a backdrop for those other elements.

Honestly, I'm really happy with how the cape turned out: I don't usually do all that well with capes, especially figuring out what kind of collar/attachment to do---and I normally have trouble drawing collars. This one turned out better than I thought I could do, so I'm really happy with that part, too.

Sometimes, when your working on a piece, things just seem to go right. I slaved over the original design (and tried doing a second one, but ended up coming back to this one)---but once I finally got the pencils right, the coloring etc. work on the computer just kept coming like a logical progression, and tho' it took a lot of time, I never had that "I'm lost" feeling with it that I get sometimes with a piece.

Sorry I'm bubbling so much about it, but I feel like I hit a new plateau with this piece, and I'm still a little giddy about that.:biggrin:

This competition has done wonders for my art---if I do happen to win this round (which I never thought I'd do), it's just the icing on the cake, for me. Yes, I'd be over the moon and totally shocked/giddy---but whether I do or not, the fact that all this has pushed me to go beyond some of my prior limits as an artist (and as a designer) is the longterm reward for all the work.

Solaris
04-10-2008, 11:20 AM
THANKS to everyone who voted for End Worlder (and a special thanks to WhiteRose---I know you normally do the self-voting so you don't have to pick one)!!! I'm very happy to have come in second this past round.

And I am *totally* stoked about the new challenge: I'm going to have fun, putting Black Canary into Old West garb!

WhiteRose
04-10-2008, 04:35 PM
THANKS to everyone who voted for End Worlder (and a special thanks to WhiteRose---I know you normally do the self-voting so you don't have to pick one)!!! I'm very happy to have come in second this past round.

And I am *totally* stoked about the new challenge: I'm going to have fun, putting Black Canary into Old West garb!

Are you kidding? How could I not vote for your piece! I say you were robbed of immunity this round, ROBBED! It was THE standout.

You AND Dazz, come to think of it. The Copper Courtesans were so beautifully done, and amuse me to no end for reasons I can't explain.

BTW: Thanks for the PM, Sol. It was, unfortunately, about 2:30 in the morning when the new challenge went up here, so I'm already about 7 hours behind.

Dazzler
04-10-2008, 04:38 PM
THANKS to everyone who voted for End Worlder (and a special thanks to WhiteRose---I know you normally do the self-voting so you don't have to pick one)!!! I'm very happy to have come in second this past round.

And I am *totally* stoked about the new challenge: I'm going to have fun, putting Black Canary into Old West garb!

I am *so* sorry, Solaris. I decided this last round to start voting for myself so as not to have to choose amongst friends, but now I wish I had voted for you. Your design was the one I thought rocked it out, and if I had voted for you, you totally would have been immune this round.

*Shame*

--Dazz

Dazzler
04-10-2008, 04:39 PM
Are you kidding? How could I not vote for your piece! I say you were robbed of immunity this round, ROBBED! It was THE standout.
I completely agree. *Just more shame*

You AND Dazz, come to think of it. The Copper Courtesans were so beautifully done, and amuse me to no end for reasons I can't explain.

Well, thank you Rose. ;) I appreciate it!. I think we all did splendidly this round!


--Dazz

Hi-Fi
04-10-2008, 04:39 PM
Hey! I post on YABS as well! Sometimes... Rarely.

All kidding aside, you YABSters should be proud. Great designers in this thread. And I was really mad seeing you going so soon, DMJ.

And I also agree that immunity should have been yours this time, Solaris. That immunity monopoly needs to end!

Dazzler
04-10-2008, 04:42 PM
Hey! I post on YABS as well! Sometimes... Rarely.

All kidding aside, you YABSters should be proud. Great designers in this thread. And I was really mad seeing you going so soon, DMJ.

And I also agree that immunity should have been yours, Solaris. That immunity monopoly needs to end!

Hi-Fi, then post your designs in here! Even as a rarely poster, you should be up in here with us. ;)



So, speaking of immunity monopolies, what does everyone think of the who ISP snafu this round?

--Dazz

Hi-Fi
04-10-2008, 04:48 PM
Hi-Fi, then post your designs in here! Even as a rarely poster, you should be up in here with us. ;)



So, speaking of immunity monopolies, what does everyone think of the who ISP snafu this round?

--Dazz
Heh. Perhaps this next round, I will. I really need to step up my game this round.

Yeah, that was truly bizarre. I can't believe someone would actually do it. Lame.

Dazzler
04-10-2008, 04:51 PM
Heh. Perhaps this next round, I will. I really need to step up my game this round.
Well, last round was the first time you'd used digital coloring for your piece, right? Are you going to try it again this time? (BTW, I showed some friends of mine the thread last night...and the only time they got super excited for anyone was reading that Swatch "cried at night while taking her sleeping pills." It was a hit.)

Yeah, that was truly bizarre. I can't believe someone would actually do it. Lame.

Over a game. I know some people are really competative and want to win...but MAN.

--Dazz

Hi-Fi
04-10-2008, 04:58 PM
Well, last round was the first time you'd used digital coloring for your piece, right? Are you going to try it again this time? (BTW, I showed some friends of mine the thread last night...and the only time they got super excited for anyone was reading that Swatch "cried at night while taking her sleeping pills." It was a hit.)



Over a game. I know some people are really competative and want to win...but MAN.

--Dazz
Hah! The digital color sooo backfired. It looked awful. I just finished drawing Fire and I have no idea how am I going to color her.

I'm so glad your friends have a fun time reading about Swatch. I try to be dramatic on my entries. ; )

Thanks for letting me know!

DungeonmasterJim
04-10-2008, 05:29 PM
Hi-Fi, then post your designs in here! Even as a rarely poster, you should be up in here with us. ;)



So, speaking of immunity monopolies, what does everyone think of the who ISP snafu this round?

--Dazz

It happened last year also. A participant or two got the boot for the same reason last year. One thing that's a lot better this year is particpants aren't dropping out of the contest because of not posting. I think 2 or 3 people were booted because they didn't bother with weekly challenges for whatever reason.

DM Jim

Solaris
04-10-2008, 06:45 PM
Over a game. I know some people are really competative and want to win...but MAN.

--Dazz

Dazz, don't assume it was contestants (if it was, likely Matt would've booted them, like last year). I figure it's either someone (friend or fan of a contestant) who wanted to see the person win so badly they voted twice, OR that it's some joker wanting to mess up the poll, thinking it's funny.

Whoever it was and for whatever reason, I'm glad Matt is staying on top of it.

As for dropouts, IIRC we've had somewhere between 3-5, all within the first couple of rounds. Everyone since then is sticking it out.

Solaris
04-10-2008, 07:02 PM
Hey! I post on YABS as well! Sometimes... Rarely.

All kidding aside, you YABSters should be proud. Great designers in this thread. And I was really mad seeing you going so soon, DMJ.

And I also agree that immunity should have been yours this time, Solaris. That immunity monopoly needs to end!

Wow---thanks! :biggrin: I don't mind---I think the two winning designs were particularly good (tho' Aljira's was my favorite---maybe because it had a "fetish" feel to it! :wink: ).

However... THIS week I am again "Bringing My 'A' Game," as someone put it (I love that phrase)---so whether I win or not, I hope I can turn up the heat on the former winners, making them really work for the win. :biggrin: (I'm evil that way, MWAHAHAHAHA!)

And I am SOO stoked that I got Black Canary, it's not even funny. I've gotten the design finished (decided on and planned out), and am putting the finishing touches on the pencils (which will still take a while)... then it's off to the scanner, and figuring out what colors I want, and then the haard work of getting everything as "right" as I can.

And yeah, it made me sad to see DMJim go so soon, too. :frown: But, I *am* keeping up with what he and the others are doing in the "Play at Home" thread, even if I don't have time to post in it much.

Oh---and welcome to the YABS thread! :D

Solaris
04-10-2008, 07:07 PM
Are you kidding? How could I not vote for your piece! I say you were robbed of immunity this round, ROBBED! It was THE standout.

You AND Dazz, come to think of it. The Copper Courtesans were so beautifully done, and amuse me to no end for reasons I can't explain.

BTW: Thanks for the PM, Sol. It was, unfortunately, about 2:30 in the morning when the new challenge went up here, so I'm already about 7 hours behind.

Ah well, I tried to catch you. At least with this challenge, there were so many possibilities, you were still able to choose from several characters, instead of getting stuck with whatever ended up last.

And Iloved the CC's also---Dazz *did* manage that "look of disdain" nicely. :wink:

As for me---nah. I just see it as incentive to push even harder THIS round. *chuckles evilly and rubs hands together*

I really loved Rontgen, too---my favorite part was how you changed his costume. (I keep feeling like I've seen something like it in a clip from a German latex/lab themed fetish film, somewhere... hee.) (And no, I don't watch those---but I've been to some parties where they had those running on a big screen overhead. It was wild.)

DungeonmasterJim
04-10-2008, 07:07 PM
Wow---thanks! :biggrin: I don't mind---I think the two winning designs were particularly good (tho' Aljira's was my favorite---maybe because it had a "fetish" feel to it! :wink: ).

However... THIS week I am again "Bringing My 'A' Game," as someone put it (I love that phrase)---so whether I win or not, I hope I can turn up the heat on the former winners, making them really work for the win. :biggrin: (I'm evil that way, MWAHAHAHAHA!)

And I am SOO stoked that I got Black Canary, it's not even funny. I've gotten the design finished (decided on and planned out), and am putting the finishing touches on the pencils (which will still take a while)... then it's off to the scanner, and figuring out what colors I want, and then the haard work of getting everything as "right" as I can.

And yeah, it made me sad to see DMJim go so soon, too. :frown: But, I *am* keeping up with what he and the others are doing in the "Play at Home" thread, even if I don't have time to post in it much.


Did they have fetish gear back then? At least you can still go with fishnets for Canary!

It's just as well I got the boot. Now I'm starting to work again on my comic as opposed to using any excuse not to. It's not that I hate my comic or anything it's just a lot of work doing it all by myself.

DM Jim

Solaris
04-10-2008, 07:12 PM
I am *so* sorry, Solaris. I decided this last round to start voting for myself so as not to have to choose amongst friends, but now I wish I had voted for you. Your design was the one I thought rocked it out, and if I had voted for you, you totally would have been immune this round.

*Shame*

--Dazz

Enh, don't worry about it, Dazz. Trust me---I'm just happy to have pulled a 2nd place! (And maybe I'll pull off an immunity this round... we'll see.) :biggrin: :wink:

I'm putting a lot more time into my work, than in the beginning. The first pic in particular was VERY rushed, and rough (sigh---I was NOT happy with the end product). I also think (and hope) that all this practice and the competitive push has helped me improve, as the competition rolled on. I always try to make my current pic better than the last, because in the end, the only person I'm truly competing with is myself. (But it's still fun to compete with others. :wink: )

Solaris
04-10-2008, 07:14 PM
Did they have fetish gear back then? At least you can still go with fishnets for Canary!

It's just as well I got the boot. Now I'm starting to work again on my comic as opposed to using any excuse not to. It's not that I hate my comic or anything it's just a lot of work doing it all by myself.

DM Jim

Tell me about it---I've got all kinds of stuff pushed aside for the moment, because of the time I'm putting into my pics. It's worth it, though---I'm seeing improvement in my stuff, and that's good. :smile:

I have NO clue what kind of "fetish" wear they may have worn back then, if at all. If I did, I'd be tempted to put her in it---but really, I like the design I've got already, so there you go. :biggrin:

Pink Bat Maxine
04-11-2008, 03:57 PM
I'm so disappointed that nobody chose Oracle for the JLA/Cowboy challenge!
I may have to do one for the Play At Home thread.

Aggie
04-11-2008, 04:31 PM
i totally forgot to vote in the last challenge...:frown:

but if i wasn't so stupid, sol you would have gotten my vote this time around...your reinterpretation of rose's