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Major Comma
03-07-2008, 08:18 PM
I like Barack Obama/Bill Bradley myself.

Corrina
03-07-2008, 08:23 PM
Bradley?

There's a charisma magnet. Not. I've met him. He's very smart. And very condescending. I've met Christie Whitman too. Her, I liked. She even ditched on Bush pretty fast but she's been involved in the whole World Trade Center workers fiasco.

Maybe Bill Richardson, for his experience and he can possibly help pull in the Hispanic vote. He'd be valuable to both of them.

If Obama wins the nomination, I'd like him to pick one of the qualified women senators or governors and just make it a whole bunch of new. Might as well go all the way if you say you want change.

Sabrinaset
03-07-2008, 08:42 PM
Well, the big problem both of them have is that if they win, there are fears that they will be assassinated. So, the idea is to pick someone for veep who people will dislike so much, you WANT them to stay alive.

Rick Olney for Vice-President. His time has come.

Major Comma
03-07-2008, 08:44 PM
Corrina,
I did a little searching and Kathleen Sebelius governor of Kansas is a rumored Obama VP possibilty
hows that for a possible pick?
Its just a rumor at this point.

Major Comma
03-07-2008, 08:55 PM
another rumored possibilty is Janet Napolitano the governor of Arizona.
I wonder if that would put Mcains home state in play?

JeffreyWKramer
03-07-2008, 08:57 PM
If Hillary wins the nomination, Obama as VP gives her the best chance for a win, as there are people who might otherwise not vote for her who probably would if he was on the ticket.

On the other hand, if Obama wins it, it would be a big mistake to have Hillary as his VP candidate, because her presence in the race assures higher GOP voter turnout to vote against the ticket. He probably has a much better chance to win with someone else as the VP candidate.

Monty_Cristo
03-07-2008, 09:02 PM
it's too bad that Edwards is out of the running. i think that would have been an interesting combo.

JeffreyWKramer
03-07-2008, 09:07 PM
it's too bad that Edwards is out of the running. i think that would have been an interesting combo.

Has he ruled out a possible VP slot?

CutterMike
03-07-2008, 09:08 PM
I want a Barack Obama/Bill Clinton ticket.

I just think it would be frickin' hilarious.

Netley
03-07-2008, 09:10 PM
I like Barack Obama/Bill Bradley myself.

That would be a good combo. I could also see Edwards as a possibility for either Obama or Clinton.

stealthwise
03-07-2008, 09:12 PM
Obama/Gore.

You all want it.

stamen
03-07-2008, 09:13 PM
I think they'll pick a lesser known. I'd like to see our TN Governor Bredesen get a look. He was talked about early on as a potential runner. He's won landside victories in as a Dem in largely Republican state, carrying heavily Rep. counties with ease.

TCJohnson
03-07-2008, 09:17 PM
Obama has said that Tim Kaine is on his short list for VPs. I would be very happy about this.

Michael P
03-07-2008, 09:18 PM
Obama would be well-advised to pick a more senior Democrat to fight off allegations of inexperience. Nobody in the Cheney range, but someone like Bradley or Joe Biden.

Edwards, I think, is right out for Obama, but wouldn't be a bad pick for Clinton.

Crowley
03-07-2008, 09:19 PM
I don't see it happening... but I'd like a Obama/ Kucinich ticket.

NickThompson
03-07-2008, 09:37 PM
Obama/McCain. This would confuse McCain, and would end up campaigning against himself.

Infra-Man
03-07-2008, 09:39 PM
The only way Obama and Clinton would run together is if they were paired in a three-legged race for charity or if they were cast in a "we're escaped fugitives in a chain gang" movie--they're a ticket of constant sorrow. Seems like they are not that fond of each other these days.

Bill Richardson is a good choice for both, especially shoring up Obama's perceived lack of experience. Joe Biden might yet play a role in the race and could be a good choice for Obama, though Biden may be a longshot for the VP and may instead play a role in either administration as a high-ranking official (e.g., cabinet member or chief of staff).

Regardless who Hillary Clinton picks as her VP, the real VP will be (let's face it) Bill Clinton. I can see her trying to tap Edwards, though I'd expect her to pick someone who's more cozied up to the DLC, like Evan Bayh or someone similar.

Then again, Obama may want to consider Eric Baker as a VP, and maybe offer Arnold Vinick a high-ranking spot in his cabinet.

Major Comma
03-07-2008, 10:14 PM
Infra Man,
in order for that to happen dont vinick and Baker have to exist outside the West Wing?;)

Netley
03-07-2008, 10:39 PM
Obama/Gore.

You all want it.

Now that's a winning ticket.

TomStillwell
03-07-2008, 10:42 PM
I'd love to see Edwards team with either of them.

I would love love an Obama/Gore ticket.

You might see Obama pick someone like Dick Durbin.

No, here we go...Obama/Paul.

Netley
03-07-2008, 10:54 PM
I'd love to see Edwards team with either of them.

I would love love an Obama/Gore ticket.

You might see Obama pick someone like Dick Durbin.

No, here we go...Obama/Paul.

I think that Obama/Paul would win hands down (if it were possible, which it's not so long as Paul's not a Democrat). However, many of their policy interests don't match, other than their stances on the War in Iraq (which, to be fair, is arguably the biggest issue).

Cam63
03-07-2008, 11:03 PM
Well, the big problem both of them have is that if they win, there are fears that they will be assassinated. So, the idea is to pick someone for veep who people will dislike so much, you WANT them to stay alive.

Rick Olney for Vice-President. His time has come.


Fake hero ex-Marine bullshit rip-off wankers need something to strive for.

Kyuubi
03-08-2008, 12:24 AM
Obama/Colbert



Victory.

Sally Sensational
03-08-2008, 10:38 AM
I'm with the "go with Bill Richardson" crowd. Richardson has foreign policy experience that Obama lacks and charisma that Hillary can't seem to get the hang of. I really would have liked to have seen him get further in the primary race, but I got the sneaking suspicion that he was in it to get his face in front of the nation a bit more - perhaps with the VP slot in mind.

Edwards is most likely out - he's already lost once and he's got that shrew of a wife of his to deal with. Having her and Hillary within striking range of each other would be BAD.

PatrickG
03-08-2008, 11:27 AM
I think Clinton or Obama would be ill-advised to pick a legislator.

sk716
03-08-2008, 01:10 PM
Patrick has mentioned him as a running mate for Hillary before and I agree he'd be a great choice for her: Gen. Wesley Clark.

As for Obama, he needs someone that can balance out his overbearing idealism. The only people I can think of wouldn't want the job.

Lester C.
03-08-2008, 01:16 PM
Given what happened in 2000 nationally, an in Ohio in 2004, both of them should consider Ralph Nader as bizzare as that may seem.

Spiffy
03-08-2008, 03:17 PM
Well, the big problem both of them have is that if they win, there are fears that they will be assassinated. So, the idea is to pick someone for veep who people will dislike so much, you WANT them to stay alive.
Is that the secret "Dick Cheney Plan" that's been keeping lil' Bushie alive and well?

Infra-Man
03-08-2008, 03:35 PM
Given what happened in 2000 nationally, an in Ohio in 2004, both of them should consider Ralph Nader as bizzare as that may seem.

Nah, Nader didn't matter in 2004 in any state, especially not in Ohio. Here were the final numbers in Ohio in 2004 from USA Today. Note that Nader's name is not even on the tally for the state of Ohio (one of the states where he was not on the ballot, I assume):

Bush: 2,796,147
Kerry: 2,659,664
Badnarik: 14,331
Peroutka: 11,614


Bedsides, Nader would never run as a Democrat since he believes the two-party system is corrupt, nor would he run with Obama or Clinton given his criticism of both candidates.

EDIT:
Barring the possibility of a severely bitter split in the Democratic party and an inability to have supporters unify around the Democratic nominee, Nader will not matter in 2008 either.

jerrymcl89
03-08-2008, 04:56 PM
If Hillary winds up winning, she'll almost certainly feel obligated to choose Obama, and he'd almost certainly accept. There's a lot of bad blood between the campaigns, but I don't get the feeling that it's personal between the candidates, so I think they could make it work.

On the other hand, I don't think Hillary would be interested in being Vice President, and I don't really think Obama would want to choose her, either. I think Bill Richardson is pretty much ideal as an Obama running mate - an experienced guy with foreign policy credibility, appeals to Hispanics who haven't reallly flocked to Obama, popular governor of a swing state, and even though voters didn't love him as a Presidential contender, everyone acknowledges he could step in and do the job.

Wesley Clark would also be a solid choice for Obama, since he also would address the foreign policy issue, and appeal to more conservative Democrats.

AndrewCrossett
03-10-2008, 08:28 AM
Bill Richardson would be great...I'd rather have seen him run for the vacant New Mexico senate seat. I guess Tom Udall already has the nomination, though.

Kathleen Sebelius and Janet Napolitano are popular Democratic governors of blazingly red states. As such, we really can't afford to lose them from their current positions...not with a census and re-districting right around the corner.

John Edwards would be ideal. He's got high name recognition, experience, high positives, and he's not currently in office so the Democrats wouldn't have to jeopardize a senate seat or a governorship by nominating him.

PatrickG
03-10-2008, 09:19 AM
Given what happened in 2000 nationally, an in Ohio in 2004, both of them should consider Ralph Nader as bizzare as that may seem.

Nader beat the Libertarian by a small margin as I recall, small enough that if one cared to do recounts then he might have placed 4th.

By that logic, McCain should go with Ron Paul.

PatrickG
03-10-2008, 09:24 AM
If Hillary winds up winning, she'll almost certainly feel obligated to choose Obama, and he'd almost certainly accept. There's a lot of bad blood between the campaigns, but I don't get the feeling that it's personal between the candidates, so I think they could make it work.


He really CAN'T accept or he'll validate Hillary's claim that he was inexperienced and that a vote for her was a vote for him.

He also CAN'T NOT accept because of what that would do to the party.

Obama has pretty much only TWO hopes of achieving the presidency:

- He wins the nomination now and wins the general election.

- He loses the nomination, refuses the VP spot, campaigns vigorously for Hillary and she wins without him on the ticket.

IMHO, he will NEVER be president outside of these two scenarios. It's one of the reasons I think it's a shame that he's run such a successful campaign now in his career and one reason I think it's essential that he be supported NOW.

For Obama, it may well be now or never. I'd lay better odds on Hillary having a successful bid in 4 or 8 years than Obama. It's now or never for him unless he can stay detached from Hillary without costing her the presidency if she's selected as the nominee.

AndrewCrossett
03-10-2008, 10:57 AM
I think that the loser of Obama vs. Clinton will certainly endorse and campaign for the winner...but I don't think either one wants to go from their current position (prominent majority-party senators on fast track to Majority Leader position) to assume the pretty much useless position of VP (Dick "Svengali" Cheney notwithstanding). Being VP would pretty much guarantee being the party's anointed presidential candidate in 2016, but I think both Clinton and Obama have other things they'd rather be doing over the next 8 years.

Plus, the Democrats can't really afford to lose two prominent incumbent Senators at the same time, considering their razor-thin majority.