Spawn

[michaeljsmith]

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I know many of you think that Spawn is not cool and it is a very 1990's but this title is better than ever. David Hine is a superstar writer who gets the character and Brian Haberlin has a distinct style that lends itself to the darker side of this title.

I know that there are a few of you out there that know what I am talking about and I thought it might be time to throw out a "post it all" thread here. Feel free to tell me I am crazy or jump in and tell the world about this title. Below is the information for this month's issue. Looking forward to it after the recent Gunslinger Spawn arc.
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SPAWN
MONTHLY SERIES
ISSUE 176 | MARCH 2008
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TITLE The Monster in the Bubble, Part I
STORY David Hine LETTERS Tom Orzechowski COVER Greg Capullo COLORS Andy Troy INKS Brian Haberlin PENCILS Brian Haberlin
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People are dying and witnesses swear the killer is a ghost. Police profiler Marc Simmons thinks he knows better, but his suspect has the perfect alibi. Can Spawn solve the riddle of 'The Monster in the Bubble?'

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[Greg Anderson]

Awesome-sauce. :cool:

We definitely need a Spawn thread here, the book has been all sorts of cool. David Hine kicks all sorts of much needed ass for this book.

[michaeljsmith]

Awesome-sauce. :cool:

We definitely need a Spawn thread here, the book has been all sorts of cool. David Hine kicks all sorts of much needed ass for this book.

ahhh someone who is drinking the kool-aid and has seen the light.... not that I am referring to "the light" from the Armageddon story arc.

David Hine is taking this book to new heights and has a vision and way of telling stories that makes you want more....

[Gavin Higginbotham, BotF]

I've just read SPAWN from 150-173 in near enough one sitting, and it was entertaining as hell. The Armageddon storyline was great fun and I love the urban horror stuff currently going on. It's nice seeing Mammon developing his plans further and I like that he's been involved in Al's life long before he was even born. It makes him feel like a more legitimate threat.

I'm slightly concerned by the whole "End of Spawn" solicitations, but Todd wants his character to live on after he's gone, so I suppose I shouldn't worry.

[michaeljsmith]

I'm slightly concerned by the whole "End of Spawn" solicitations, but Todd wants his character to live on after he's gone, so I suppose I shouldn't worry.

I was a little concerned for about 30 second and then you see a quote like below...


Brian Haberlin (TMP Editor in Chief)
Would I let Spawn be cancelled!?! People would hunt me down!http://board.spawn.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif

...and you get a little reassurance that Spawn is going to be around a while. I jsut hope this is not some way of saying "Spawn" will be around but Al Simmons might not be Spawn much longer. Ghost Rider tried that in the 1990's and Johhny Blaze was more of a mentor and it was terrible.

[Chino]

Oh how I miss Spawn :o
I read Spawn from 1-91 then left comics all together.

Is Spawn a hero now, or what the hell is doing really? 91 or so issues of pretty much crying over wanda and wandering in the alley got old quick. I pretty much stuck around for Capullos (sp) art, and because Spawn himself was such a badass.

Anyone care to tell me what exactly this book is about now? Is there a clear direction? Suggestions on a good starting point?

[michaeljsmith]

Oh how I miss Spawn :o
I read Spawn from 1-91 then left comics all together.

Is Spawn a hero now, or what the hell is doing really? 91 or so issues of pretty much crying over wanda and wandering in the alley got old quick. I pretty much stuck around for Capullos (sp) art, and because Spawn himself was such a badass.

Anyone care to tell me what exactly this book is about now? Is there a clear direction? Suggestions on a good starting point?

Yes there is a clear direction and really for a starting off point time could not be better.

Let's see if I can get you caught up:

Issue # 100 Spawn and Angela went to Hell to face off against Malebolgia Spawn's master. Malebolgia kills Angela and in a fit of rage Spawn kills Malebolgia and hence becomes the ruler of Hell. He is not interested in the job so he goes back to Earth.

Over the course of the next few years Spawn:
*Fights vampires that are decendents of Jesus
*Has Cogliostro turn on him only to find out he is really Cain (i.e. Cain and Able)
*Gives up his symbiote in an effort to get Wanda back
*Loses him memory
*Has his powers stolen by a hot witch that he hooks up with and then gets it back from her.
*His new true nemesis during this whole process is Mammon who wanted to be the ruler of Hell and is one of the Forgotten angels and is more powerful than anything Spawn has ever encountered

During all of this (and much more) Wanda and Terry have twins, a boy Jake and a girl Katie. Turns out that Jake is really God and Katie is really Satan. The kids decide to start Armageddon and unleash all of the furry of Hell and Heaven in battle. This lasts for 12 issues (150 to 162 I think) In the end Spawn goes through a series of test by a being called The Mother who is essentially one step higher than God and Satan. Spawn passes and decided he wants to put the world back together clsoing off the gates to Heaven and the gates to Hell and he is going to Wanda. He arrives at Wanda's door only to realize that before he died he had beaten her and caused a miscarriage. He really is a monster. In a sense of shame he heads off to sulk.

So now there is a new world, Heaven and Hell are supposed to be closed off but somehow bad things keeps happening. Spawn starts to find out that he was chosen before his birth for his role in Hell and his mom was actually a Satan worshipper.

That sort of brings you pretty current and your question of good starting points:

Issue #166 is the official kick off the the new world so that is only 10 issues back and it is collected in trade. If you want to go back one more step I would encourage picking up the Armageddon collection in trade. It is an intense end of the world look at things.

The next issue metioned at the start of the thread starts a new story arc and you really won't be out of things. Hine is a master of tying it all together for those in the know (Mammon sitting in Al's dads chair as a kid went back 50 issues in a recent issue) but he does not make you know the history.

I cannot recommend this book ENOUGH. I am one of the crazy faithful that have been there since Issue #1 but very few people that pick up the current stuff can put it back down.

[Greg Anderson]

You mean you can't recommend this book enough! ;)

I know I can't. :D

[michaeljsmith]

You mean you can't recommend this book enough! ;)

I know I can't. :D

Noted and changed - you are correct.... ENOUGH

almost didn't recongnize you Two-Face

[Greg Anderson]

Noted and changed - you are correct.... ENOUGH

almost didn't recongnize you Two-Face

I've no idea what you're talking about. :o :p ;)

[flashdisk]

I've no idea what you're talking about. :o :p ;)

Could it be?...... Hmmm. :D

[flashdisk]

Oh how I miss Spawn :o
I read Spawn from 1-91 then left comics all together.

Is Spawn a hero now, or what the hell is doing really? 91 or so issues of pretty much crying over wanda and wandering in the alley got old quick. I pretty much stuck around for Capullos (sp) art, and because Spawn himself was such a badass.

Anyone care to tell me what exactly this book is about now? Is there a clear direction? Suggestions on a good starting point?

Its hit its stride. David Hine is doing a great as Spawns writer, and the plot is already moving forward.

Actually Armageddon just ended and Spawn has a new girlfriend. Thats a big change isn't it. :D But the Spawn comic is far better now than before. :D

[michaeljsmith]

Could it be?...... Hmmm. :D

Darn alias names - I am just not smart enough for that I have to be the same person on every board.... or I would just forget. Call it me "branding" myself.

[michaeljsmith]

The sales numbers are in for January 2008 and I was personally a little shocked to see that Issue #174 (Part 1 of Gunslinger Spawn) actually took a slight dip as compared to the prior month's issue. I am sure many of you are surprised to hear the book is still around so knowing that sales dipped a little would be no surprise to you - but I will continue to scream from the mountain-top that this book is better than 90% of the titles that out sold it the prior month.

January 2008 Sales Estimates
Issue: 174 (Gunslinger Spawn Part 1 of 2)
Rank: 99 (up 7 places from 106 prior month)
Sales: 22,650 (down 2.0% from 23,121 prior month)

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For those of you that missed the issue (and judging from the numbers that is quite a few of you, here is a brief overview of the events. It is never too late and pickup one of the best written issues with the most incredible painted art you will find in a book.

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As Spawn continues to explore the past, he finds that Mammon's influence on the Simmons' family goes back further than he has imagined. Al Simmons' great-great-grandfather was a Buffalo Soldier, but what happened when this hero of the Old West crossed paths with an emissary from Hell? Two words: Gunslinger Spawn!

...keeping the faith and looking forward to Issue #176 which should be out later this month.

[michaeljsmith]

To wet the appetite of all of the faithful here are a few preview pages for the upcoming issue #176....

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k100/metal_hellspawn/spawn176p1.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k100/metal_hellspawn/spawn176p2.jpg

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[flashdisk]

Are there any more Spawn fans here?

They're missing a lot if they don't see these. :)

[michaeljsmith]

I think it is just you and me - then again since we are in between issues you can't blame the masses. Let's see how the discussion proceed after the next issue (#176 "The Monster in the Bubble" Part 1 of 2) is released in a couple of weeks.

I am a little shocked there were a lot of comments about the preview pages but then again I know people are a little reluctant to admit they still are interested in a book that is associated with McFarlane.

[Greg Anderson]

Would we cause trouble if we made a separate thread that shows these previews for the next issue? Maybe once we find out the date for the upcoming issue, we could make a separate thread for it.

[bookguy]

Haven't they cancelled this series yet?:eek:

[K.O.V.G]

Haven't they cancelled this series yet?:eek:

Didn't they band or fail you yet, please if you don't like spawn don';t post here.

[michaeljsmith]

Haven't they cancelled this series yet?:eek:

Oddly enough they have not - and that is why this thread is here. I am fairly certain that everyone, including my grandma, has owned a copy of Spawn #1 at one time in their life. Many people base their opinion of this book on those early McFarlane issues. That would be 100% wrong as this is a well written book and it keeps getting better. David Hine and Brian Haberlin are exploring the depths of a truly unique character each and every month.

I would suggest for those of you that normal don't pick up a copy to get issue #176 that comes out this month and see what you think. I know we have extensive pull lists but really can't you find another $2.99 for a single month and check out a book that has found a way to evolve and change for more than 14 years and keeps getting better?

If you don't like it you are out $2.99 (send a note to Todd I am sure he would refund you :p )
If you think you like it then get the next issue as this is going to be a 2 issue story arc.
If you really like the book, as I trust you will, thank me later.

[michaeljsmith]

Would we cause trouble if we made a separate thread that shows these previews for the next issue? Maybe once we find out the date for the upcoming issue, we could make a separate thread for it.

Once we have the official release date I will absolutely be getting those previews out there again for the world to enjoy....

[flashdisk]

I wonder when we'll ever see the Curse. I think he is an interesting character, able to combine advanced technology and weaponry with supernatural power to bring something completely different. I wonder how much he has changed since his last appearance. I think he'd be more powerful now since during Armageddon's he probably found a lot of raw materials to experiment on and make himself stronger.

[michaeljsmith]

I wonder when we'll ever see the Curse. I think he is an interesting character, able to combine advanced technology and weaponry with supernatural power to bring something completely different. I wonder how much he has changed since his last appearance. I think he'd be more powerful now since during Armageddon's he probably found a lot of raw materials to experiment on and make himself stronger.

He would be a great character to reappear here in the near future. I think as the cracks between Heaven and Hell start to open he could be a good character to appear again...

[PamGrierOverdrive]

I would suggest for those of you that normal don't pick up a copy to get issue #176 that comes out this month and see what you think. I know we have extensive pull lists but really can't you find another $2.99 for a single month and check out a book that has found a way to evolve and change for more than 14 years and keeps getting better?

If you don't like it you are out $2.99 (send a note to Todd I am sure he would refund you :p )
If you think you like it then get the next issue as this is going to be a 2 issue story arc.
If you really like the book, as I trust you will, thank me later.


You're on. I'll give it a shot, but do me a favor and bump up this thread with a reminder post when the issue hits so I don't forget.

[michaeljsmith]

You're on. I'll give it a shot, but do me a favor and bump up this thread with a reminder post when the issue hits so I don't forget.

Consider it done - heck I will even shoot you a PM and remind you the day before it drops. If you don't like it come back and tell everyone I am crazy... I don't mind the haters, as long as they give the book a fair shot.

:D one down - 29,999 more to go before I can double this thing.

[michaeljsmith]

For those of you that did not get to see any of the recent Gunslinger Spawn 2 issue story arc, what were you thinking? Here is a treat for you. Below is a copy of the pencil art that was done on this issue by guest artist Bing Casino. As amazing as the pencils look you should have seen it colored... AMAZING.

http://fc04.deviantart.com/fs28/f/2008/045/3/0/spawn_funslinger_by_wolfpact.jpg

[Greg Anderson]

Consider it done - heck I will even shoot you a PM and remind you the day before it drops. If you don't like it come back and tell everyone I am crazy... I don't mind the haters, as long as they give the book a fair shot.

:D one down - 29,999 more to go before I can double this thing.

Haha! Brik, you're really something, dude. :cool:

We must convert more!!!!:evilsmile :evilsmile

[Netley]

I was really into Spawn till about issue 40 or so (around the intro of the "Freak" I think). It's nice to see that it's still delivering a good read, from what I've read here.

One thing about current Spawn I have to ask: is Chapel still around at all? I know Liefeld created/owns the character, but he KILLED AL SIMMONS!!! Is that still canon? If it was retconned, what's the new story of Al Simmons' death?

When it was first revealed that it was Chapel (in issue 12 or so), I thought that was so cool! Liefeld created this "bad-ass" type of guy for his team book, and McFarlane goes and makes him an actual bad-ass by having him be the guy who originally killed Spawn! (And remember, this was within the first 2 years of Image, so (imo) it all just seemed so much bigger then, you know?)

[michaeljsmith]

One thing about current Spawn I have to ask: is Chapel still around at all? I know Liefeld created/owns the character, but he KILLED AL SIMMONS!!! Is that still canon? If it was retconned, what's the new story of Al Simmons' death?

No Chapel is long gone and so is the concept that he killed Al Simmons. This really came to a head with the release of the movie. Since Rob owned Chapel's rights Todd decided to change the killer because either (a) he and Rob could not agree on financial terms or (b) he was too cheap to pay him. I would think the later.

Jessica Preist was a government operative that was on the mission with Al and she pulled the trigger that killed him. Ultimately it was Jason Wynn that made the call. Long confusing story but we are over 100 issues past that so it is no longer a concern.

Issue #176 should be out in the next couple of weeks - I would encourage you to give it a try.

[genesis]

I love Spawn's current run never read it before the Armageddon arc, but I absolutely love it now. My only regret is because i don't get comics weekly anymore I still haven't gotten issue 175 and it disappoints me after how great 174 was.

[Netley]

No Chapel is long gone and so is the concept that he killed Al Simmons. This really came to a head with the release of the movie. Since Rob owned Chapel's rights Todd decided to change the killer because either (a) he and Rob could not agree on financial terms or (b) he was too cheap to pay him. I would think the later.

Jessica Preist was a government operative that was on the mission with Al and she pulled the trigger that killed him. Ultimately it was Jason Wynn that made the call. Long confusing story but we are over 100 issues past that so it is no longer a concern.

Issue #176 should be out in the next couple of weeks - I would encourage you to give it a try.

So "Chapel" was replaced by "Priest." Hilarious! So ultimately Al Simmons can't escape religion, even in a copyright-motivated-retcon haha!

[Greg Anderson]

So "Chapel" was replaced by "Priest." Hilarious! So ultimately Al Simmons can't escape religion, even in a copyright-motivated-retcon haha!

Hahaha! :D

[Greg Anderson]

I love Spawn's current run never read it before the Armageddon arc, but I absolutely love it now. My only regret is because i don't get comics weekly anymore I still haven't gotten issue 175 and it disappoints me after how great 174 was.

Damn, son....I feel your pain, I really do. :( You're missing out on some non-stop gunslinging Spawny action, my dude!!!! :(

[michaeljsmith]

So "Chapel" was replaced by "Priest." Hilarious! So ultimately Al Simmons can't escape religion, even in a copyright-motivated-retcon haha!

Yes, I think they did the best they could to try and and stay as true to the original concept from the beginning when Spawn was drawn to a church and he thought it was "Chapel" and it turned out to be "Priest".

...from what I understand Chapel become some evil lord of Hell through Youngblood as he was about to die from AIDS and then killed himself and made a deal with a devil ---> LEIFELD, original idea.

[Netley]

Yes, I think they did the best they could to try and and stay as true to the original concept from the beginning when Spawn was drawn to a church and he thought it was "Chapel" and it turned out to be "Priest".

Makes sense, it's just also funny. Tony Twist was something/someone too (sports star that sued Todd for name-usage?) Poor Todd didn't have much luck with name copyrights. He was safe with Maelbolgia because no one could figure out how to spell it.

...from what I understand Chapel become some evil lord of Hell through Youngblood as he was about to die from AIDS and then killed himself and made a deal with a devil ---> LEIFELD, original idea.

Ahh, Liefeld. You gotta love the guy. (I still have his run of X-Force and a mint-condition Youngblood #1 somewhere.) I vaguely remember the Chapel plot your talking about. There were actually some pretty cool Chapel Vietnam solo stories of him from those early Image days. Not from Strikefile, but something like that.

[michaeljsmith]

Makes sense, it's just also funny. Tony Twist was something/someone too (sports star that sued Todd for name-usage?) Poor Todd didn't have much luck with name copyrights. He was safe with Maelbolgia because no one could figure out how to spell it.

Honestly Spawn succeeded inspite of Todd not necessarily because of Todd. That being said he might have sold his soul to Maelbolgia because he was able to market the heck out of the title.

Ahh, Liefeld. You gotta love the guy. (I still have his run of X-Force and a mint-condition Youngblood #1 somewhere.)

I prefer to not admit to anything with Liefeld's name associated with it... then again I know millions feel the same about McFarlane.

[Netley]

I prefer to not admit to anything with Liefeld's name associated with it... then again I know millions feel the same about McFarlane.

I don't think I'd ever read something by Liefeld now (other than for nostalgia's sake), but McFarlane was and is an incredible artist. I think lots of the resentment towards him is because he stopped friggin drawing after making a $#!+load of money. And he made the money off of people who like his drawings.

I would love, LOVE a Spawn/Spider-Man crossover drawn by McFarlane and written by Bendis!!!

[bookguy]

I used to read Spawn in every 50 issues or so up to # 150, and then monthly until the end of the Armaggeddon storyline by David Hine # 163(or 164).

After that the series became even more depressionly morbid than it usually was.

Anyway, correct me IF I'm wrong, but we do live in North America (I live in Canada) where it's in our constitutional right to express our opinions (good or bad).

If the writers / editors / artists (and whomsoever) reads these posts, often do so, to use such criticisms to improve their storytelling (if any is needed).

If someone doesn't like a certain post, then they can just scroll on down and ignore it.

Telling people NOT to post just because they don't like it (or otherwise) is stepping on their birth-given rights to express their opinions (right or wrong) in this country.

We can ALL agree to disagree. :D

I see they cancelled SPAWN: GODSLAYER. Too bad, I like that title. :(

[michaeljsmith]

I used to read Spawn in every 50 issues or so up to # 150, and then monthly until the end of the Armaggeddon storyline by David Hine # 163(or 164).

Anyway, correct me IF I'm wrong, but we do live in North America (I live in Canada) where it's in our constitutional right to express our opinions (good or bad).

I welcome the opinions - good or bad about the title. If somebody doesn't like the book and has an educated opinion why other than "it sucks" then I would love to hear from that person. All I have ever asked is that you give it a chance and have had read an issue.

I see they cancelled SPAWN: GODSLAYER. Too bad, I like that title. :(

Please don't even get me started on that cancellation. The book was like nothing else in the market when you look at the art and the content. Most books you can understand why they lose readership... this one has me speachless.

[jesse_custer]

Best Spawn story I've read: the team-up with Houdini in issues 19 and 20.

[flashdisk]

David posted an exclusive at Newserama! http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=145856&page=18

Here it is!

David Hine


You guys are so active on this thread, I thought I'd throw you a small exclusive. The Greek publishers of Spawn are putting out Gunslinger as a special double-issue and the editor asked me to write a few words for a new introduction:

Gunslinger Spawn: Introduction for Greek Edition
David Hine – 13th March 2008


After the success of the one-shot ‘Mandarin Spawn’, my editor, Brian Haberlin, suggested more specials based on Spawn action figures. It’s unusual to write a story based on a toy, but when the toys are as cool as the McFarlane action figures, you can’t help but be inspired. A few days after talking to Brian I was in the Forbidden Planet store in London with my 12-year-old son and he spotted the 12-inch Gunslinger. One look was enough. The lean, mean, gun-toting Hellspawn, in his tattered coat and tall hat, was the scariest thing I’ve seen in a long time. The figure was actually based on a single panel from Spawn 119 by Angel Medina, depicting dozens of Spawns from across history. Apart from that one brief appearance, nothing had ever been written about him, so I had a blank slate.

I started to think about Westerns and I knew I wanted to write about the kind of mayhem and destruction that happens to a small town in the movie ‘High Plains Drifter,’ directed by and starring Clint Eastwood. I also wanted to tie it in to Al Simmons’ ancestry. So what would Al’s ancestors be doing in the frontier period of American history? The logical choice for Al’s great grandfather was to make him a Buffalo Soldier. After the American Civil War, with slavery abolished, cavalry regiments were set up specifically for black soldiers. As I began researching the history of the Buffalo Soldiers I came across an event that looked like the starting point for our story. In 1881, in San Angelo, after a black soldier was murdered by a local man, around 70 Buffalo Soldiers shot up the local saloon and afterwards, several of those soldiers went on the run.

From that incident, the story you’re about to read unfolded. Most of what you’ll see in the following pages is authentic. I read half a dozen books on the American West and several on the Buffalo Soldiers, including letters written by the soldiers to family and friends. The voice of Henry Simmons is taken from those letters. Comments attributed to characters in the story are also culled from contemporary accounts. This was a period when all black people in the USA faced racism on a daily basis. Here’s what a white cavalry officer’s wife had to say about the ‘coloured regiment’ in 1872: “The officers say that the negroes make good soldiers and fight like fiends. They certainly manage to stick on their horses like monkeys.” I adapted that line for the story. The soldiers’ declaration on Page 3 of the story, is taken almost word-for-word from the actual declaration made by the soldiers of the 10th cavalry. Although the town of Bane is fictitious, its location and background reflect the silver-mining communities of Colorado during the period. Everything about the story is authentic… except perhaps the part where a representative from Hell named Mammon brings a dead man back to life as a Hellspawn.

I deliberately scripted this story like a movie and the second half of the story delivers all the vengeful violence of a spaghetti western. The art team on this book did an amazing job. Bing Cansino and Geirrod Van Dyke are relative newcomers, but their teamwork created a Spawn story that stands with the best art the character has ever seen. Veteran Spawn artist, Greg Capullo painted two of his greatest covers for the series and also had a hand in laying out the art.

I hope you enjoy reading this story as much as we did creating it.

In the words of Gunslinger Spawn: “Let the killing commence…”

[Greg Anderson]

Best Spawn story I've read: the team-up with Houdini in issues 19 and 20.

Ugh. I couldn't get into that at all. Thought it was crap.

[michaeljsmith]

Ugh. I couldn't get into that at all. Thought it was crap.

The beauty of comics - one man's crap is another man's work of art. Personally I do struggle through much of the early Spawn issues now. I feel like they were good at the time bu the book and I have really grown up together and let's face it - you can't go back.

[Netley]

Best Spawn story I've read: the team-up with Houdini in issues 19 and 20.

Oh yeah, that was golden! Good call. If my memory serves correctly, those were Capullo's first issues, huh.

[michaeljsmith]

Oh yeah, that was golden! Good call. If my memory serves correctly, those were Capullo's first issues, huh.

Yes this is around the time that Greg came on board (issue #16 was his first). I love the evoluton of his work... when I think of Spawn the visuals I have are typically Greg's work.

[PaidHero]

Oddly enough they have not - and that is why this thread is here. I am fairly certain that everyone, including my grandma, has owned a copy of Spawn #1 at one time in their life. Many people base their opinion of this book on those early McFarlane issues. That would be 100% wrong as this is a well written book and it keeps getting better. David Hine and Brian Haberlin are exploring the depths of a truly unique character each and every month.

I would suggest for those of you that normal don't pick up a copy to get issue #176 that comes out this month and see what you think. I know we have extensive pull lists but really can't you find another $2.99 for a single month and check out a book that has found a way to evolve and change for more than 14 years and keeps getting better?

If you don't like it you are out $2.99 (send a note to Todd I am sure he would refund you :p )
If you think you like it then get the next issue as this is going to be a 2 issue story arc.
If you really like the book, as I trust you will, thank me later.

I have issue #1 and the 2 1990s volume sets. I havent gotten into Spawn for a long time I think i'll pick up this issue.

I thought they were going to make another Spawn movie know anything about it?

[michaeljsmith]

I thought they were going to make another Spawn movie know anything about it?

Unfortunately those of us that follow Spawn, and one of the reasons so many hated McFarlane, know of these projects that we are all "waiting" to see. They include:

Spawn 2
Spawn/Batman II
Spawn: Architects of Fear
Spawn: Book of the Dead
The Haunt (co-created with Kirkman)
Let's just chalk this up to the "be patient" category and sit back and enjoy the regular title. If you are really looking to pick up something interesting I would suggest issue #174 and #175 - it was a two issue Gunslinger Spawn tale (it ties into Al's Great Great Grandfather).

[michaeljsmith]

The confirmed release date for issue #176 is March 26

[michaeljsmith]

Sadly this Wednesday gets us one closer to the end of one of the best books to come out in years. Below is a copy of the original solictation and how they were really looking to use this issue as a springboard... it just did not transpire. Godslayer will be missed!!!

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SPAWN: GODSLAYER
MONTHLY SERIES
ISSUE 7 | MARCH 2008
http://www.spawn.com/comics/images/tab_comics_header_credits.gif
TITLE Dire Things, Part I
STORY Brian Holguin
LETTERS Tom Orzechowski
COVER Philip Tan
COLORS Brian Haberlin
INKS Philip Tan
PENCILS Philip Tan

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A vengeance Goddess sets her sights on the Godslayer, suspecting him of murdering her brother. A perfect jumping on point for new readers, this issue includes a special guide to the world of the Godslayer.


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...and for those of you that never picked up an issue to read or even to flip though below is a link to a free on-line copy of issue #1.

http://www.spawn.com/comics/spawngodslayer/monthly/spawngodslayer_comic_001_cover.html

[Brooklyn]

It is sad to see an end to this series. The book itself have being attracted me since #1 came out. It was a fresh breath we took in the middle of a pandemonium which original series has caused. I always liked this kinda epic tales took out of Spawn. Godslayer Vol 1 was pretty decent , Mandarin Spawn was nearly perfect without an exaggeration and this.

Gunslinger is ending too , very tragic.

[michaeljsmith]

I would agree the death of Godslayer, as a title, is nothing less than tradgic, but I am holding out hope. According to Haberlin, Editor at TMP, we will see him back again. It will likely be a mini at some other point.

I personally am 100% in favor of TMP bringing back a variation of Curse of the Spawn and this time around spend 3 to 5 issues telling the tales of various Spawns throughout time. Gunslinger Spawn and Mandarin Spawn just proved how powerful some of these other stories could be if told right. Just imagine a story arc on Pirate Spawn, Jack-the-Ripper Spawn, or even an Alien Spawn.

[Greg Anderson]

If I can pitch in an arc, I'd love to see a Curse of the Spawn. :D ;)

[michaeljsmith]

Sure you will write an arc of Curse but you are still too scared to write anything in Spawn? I know you and Hine are tight, how is it going on getting him to let me write my single Easter-flashback page? Let me know about that one when he gets back to you ;)

[Greg Anderson]

Sure you will write an arc of Curse but you are still too scared to write anything in Spawn? I know you and Hine are tight, how is it going on getting him to let me write my single Easter-flashback page? Let me know about that one when he gets back to you ;)

HAHA! I don't think we're that tight, now. :D If we were, I would have attempted to write something of Spawn a long time ago. ;)

[michaeljsmith]

"Not tight"? Come on he is dropping in and giving you exclusives on his upcoming projects and writings. I would say that is pretty tight. Next thing you know you will be watching his son or heading to the local pub for a pint.

Like I said, Easter flashback - I can write it in 5 panels, 6 if he wants the even flow of a single page. Just pass on the word for me. :p

[Greg Anderson]

OMG, dude, LMAO!

In all honesty, I find out all the latest news from him the same time any one does, it's just that since I keep track I usually find out maybe as soon as it starts to spread out more often. Plus, I chill at his forum and read all his books, so that helps. :D

[michaeljsmith]

Just give me some insight on issue #182 - come on I won't tell anyone. For those that have not seen the solication for #182


SPAWN #182
Written by David Hine, art and cover by Brian Haberlin.
The end of Spawn. 'Nuff said. 32 pages, $2.95, in stores on June 25.



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[Greg Anderson]

Hahaha!! I swear I don't know anything. And I'd never ask because I hate being spoiled. :D

[michaeljsmith]

Tomorrow we get to see Godslayer and then one week later we get to see Spawn.... go out and support THE most underappreciated book going today.

[michaeljsmith]

Godslayer #7 is out an in stores.... and has been read. If you don't want to know then please don't keep reading. Below is a copy of the ACTUAL cover that varies from the original solicitations.....

http://www.midtowncomics.com/images/PRODUCT/FUL/957355_ful.jpg

SPOILERS

Praelyx, the Goddess of Hunting and Revenge, is pissed because her brother is dead and she is blaming the Godslayer. None of the other Gods want to pursue the Godslayer but she is hell bent to find him and kill him. So begins her journy to get help from some exiled witches and the Dark God, her uncle......we leave her as she is trying to gain assistance to hunt down the Godslayer.

While all of this is going on our main man Bairn and sidekick/comedian Dromo are floating around aimlessly in a cloud of mist as Bairn misses his poor Neva who ran off the last issue. They are attacked by some creatures that have been hiding in the waters around their boat. All of the sudden the duo is dropped in the middle of the ocean into a giant castle where they find themselves in a place outside of time and reality and they meet Hath-Ur. Hath-Ur has brought the two to this place to tell Bairn more about his past and why he is the Godslayer. The most amazing thing we find out is that Dromo is actually a God, WTF - where did that come from.

This story is so amazing and it is hard to believe this whole series is going to wrap up in just one more issue.... there feels like 20 more issues of content and I have saddened to think we get one.

For those of you that never read the book please check out issue #1 free on-line at the following link.

http://www.spawn.com/comics/spawngod...001_cover.html (http://www.spawn.com/comics/spawngodslayer/monthly/spawngodslayer_comic_001_cover.html)

I am so going to miss this book - Phillip Tan's pencils are incredible and you will not fine another book out there close to this from a content standpoint. I for one hope that we get to see Godslayer again sometime in the NEAR future....Bairn you will be missed

[stingerman]

I just finished Spawn #175. Friggin' wicked. Love the Ol' Job!

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[michaeljsmith]

I just finished Spawn #175. Friggin' wicked. Love the Ol' Job!

http://www.bringbackwendell.com/spawn175.gif

I loved the story and the art - but it is even more amazing that they worked it into continuity for Al Simmons. This is one of the best "art" I have ever seen in a book. For those that missed the Gunslinger Spawn - what were you thinking?

[Mr. Sam]

I'm not really part of the comic community and so was surprised when Spawn wasn't really discussed in the Image section. I always thought he was their biggest draw. I've been in and out of Spawn. I have the first ten issues and then a bunch of randomly placed issues after that. I last read number 150, I take it I've missed a lot since?

[michaeljsmith]

Spawn is typically the best selling comic for Image each month, but nowhere near the glory days of years gone past. Issue #1 sold like 1.5 million issues while #174 sold about 22,000 copies. It is not really a cool thing to admit that you like Spawn these days, and most people judge the book based on reading it 10 years ago. The book is better written now than ever before. The next issue, #176, is on sale this week and it starts a new 2 issue story arc.....I would encourage you to pick it up and give it a try.

[Mr. Sam]

Spawn is typically the best selling comic for Image each month, but nowhere near the glory days of years gone past. Issue #1 sold like 1.5 million issues while #174 sold about 22,000 copies. It is not really a cool thing to admit that you like Spawn these days, and most people judge the book based on reading it 10 years ago. The book is better written now than ever before. The next issue, #176, is on sale this week and it starts a new 2 issue story arc.....I would encourage you to pick it up and give it a try.

Next time I'm in a comic store I'll do just that. The art direction that was established in 150 seems to have disappeared by, what is it now? Just over a year on? It looks pretty gorgeous but I've been wrong before, apparently.

[Greg Anderson]

Next time I'm in a comic store I'll do just that. The art direction that was established in 150 seems to have disappeared by, what is it now? Just over a year on? It looks pretty gorgeous but I've been wrong before, apparently.

Philip Tan's art was amazing. I surely miss his stuff. Now he's gone off of Godslayer. :( The art now I really like though.

[michaeljsmith]

Next time I'm in a comic store I'll do just that. The art direction that was established in 150 seems to have disappeared by, what is it now? Just over a year on? It looks pretty gorgeous but I've been wrong before, apparently.

If the art continues like it looks for the previews of 176 then it is going to be top notch throughout.... it is freaking amazing. I was not big on the Tales from the Crypt look lately - but it is getting back to being some of the best in any book you will see. Grab #174 & #175 - Gunslinger Spawn was the best painted book you will ever find.

[Greg Anderson]

If the art continues like it looks for the previews of 176 then it is going to be top notch throughout.... it is freaking amazing. I was not big on the Tales from the Crypt look lately - but it is getting back to being some of the best in any book you will see. Grab #174 & #175 - Gunslinger Spawn was the best painted book you will ever find.

Oh yeah. :cool:

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[michaeljsmith]

Love the dynamite in the mouth routine - that will never get old

[Greg Anderson]

Love the dynamite in the mouth routine - that will never get old

And the bastard deserved it to!! :mad:

Al should take a page from Ol' Job and plant a dynamite in Wynn's mouth. :p

[stingerman]

I'm not really part of the comic community and so was surprised when Spawn wasn't really discussed in the Image section. I always thought he was their biggest draw. I've been in and out of Spawn. I have the first ten issues and then a bunch of randomly placed issues after that. I last read number 150, I take it I've missed a lot since?

Sounds kinda like me. I was huge into Spawn (had a letter printed in issue 11) and dropped out of comics for a while. I picked up Spawn a little while ago and it seems I didnt miss that much. I am not sure but there was some big war between the Devil, God and Spawn with Spawn winning I think? Maybe the regs can clear it up more.

[Mr. Sam]

Sounds kinda like me. I was huge into Spawn (had a letter printed in issue 11) and dropped out of comics for a while. I picked up Spawn a little while ago and it seems I didnt miss that much. I am not sure but there was some big war between the Devil, God and Spawn with Spawn winning I think? Maybe the regs can clear it up more.

I know in issue 100, Spawn killed Malebolgia. Dunno if that's what you're referring to. If I find time to get out of the house, I'll pick up a few issues today.

[michaeljsmith]

Sounds kinda like me. I was huge into Spawn (had a letter printed in issue 11) and dropped out of comics for a while. I picked up Spawn a little while ago and it seems I didnt miss that much. I am not sure but there was some big war between the Devil, God and Spawn with Spawn winning I think? Maybe the regs can clear it up more.

Yes, Armageddon final came to fruition and it turned out that the God and the Devil really were just two brothers trying to fight for mom's attention... in the end Spawn won and closed Earth off from God and Satan - the only problem is there are cracks for good and evil to still come about. The book has actually moved along in the development of Al as a character more in the past 8 issues then it did in the prior 100 issues. For more on Armageddon below is a quick overview:

Armageddon
With the aid of the Greenworld, Spawn regains his lost memories, and something more. His costume metamorphoses again, seemingly becoming one with his necroplasmic body. Spawn is captured by Mammon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mammon_%28comics%29) and his demonic minions, and tortured horribly so that the secrets his body contains can be revealed. Spawn's discarded heart, torn from his chest in an earlier battle with The Disciple (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Redeemer_%28comics%29), Heaven (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaven)'s Warrior, transforms into a young boy named Chris. Chris, together with Sam and Twitch, rescue Spawn from Mammon's clutches and return him to Earth. Spawn learns that thousands of human souls are contained within his body, each one capable of being summoned in the form of a Hellspawn. As signs of the end of days (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/End_times) wreak havoc across the world, Spawn must find a way to stave off Armageddon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armageddon), and learn the true nature of Heaven (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaven), Hell (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hell), and the Earth (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth).
Spawn learns that Wanda's recently born twin children (by way of Terry) are the ones responsible for Armageddon. The twins, who have been displaying destructive and sadistic tendencies for months now, attempt to murder their entire family, when Spawn arrives to stop them. Spawn is unable to destroy the twins, and the unexpected arrival of Zera (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zera_%28comics%29), the Queen of the Seraphim (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seraphim), reveals the awful truth - Jake Fitzgerald is God (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_%28Spawn_comics%29), and Katie Fitzgerald is Satan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satan_%28Image_comics%29).

It is revealed that both God and Satan were removed from their respective kingdoms and reincarnated (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reincarnated) as human children by the all-powerful being known as Mother. Mother is the creator of the universe and all its worlds, and God and Satan are two of her many children. She regards them as disappointments, being consumed with destructive hatred towards one another. Mother, who has aided Spawn in the past under the guises of Kali, the Keeper of the Greenworld, and the Man of Miracles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_of_Miracles_%28comics%29), warns Spawn that he alone has the potential to rise above God and Satan, and preserve the human race. He also warns that Armageddon cannot be stopped - it is Earth's destiny.

Spawn is entered into one last final test to prove if he is worthy to preserve the human race: the Disciple. Before his final test, the Mother told Spawn to trust Cyan because she is "wise beyond her years". She also reveals that the Disciple is actually the guard of the portal to the Garden of Eden, where Spawn must eat the Forbidden Fruit in order to save humanity. After Spawn blasts the Disciple into Eden and killed him, it is revealed that there are actually 11 more Disciples, who are based off the Twelve Apostles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelve_Apostles). Also, because Hellspawns are never meant to enter into the Garden of Eden (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garden_of_Eden), Spawn's life will fade away the longer he is in the garden. This is shown through a video game like counter, which Cyan sees through a laptop. With the help of Cyan and the souls within him, Spawn fights each of the Disciples, killing them off one by one as the counter continues to drop to zero until the final Disciple left is Judas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judas), whom Spawn is about to kill. However, Cyan yells to Spawn to not kill him. Spawn, remembering what the Mother said about trusting Cyan, does not deal the final blow to Judas. Judas stabs Spawn through the heart and his counter reaches zero.
As Spawn lies slain, Mother appears and plucks a piece of fruit from the Tree of Life. She speaks with Judas, revealing that when she took the form of Jesus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus), Judas was his most beloved disciple, the only one who had the courage to betray him (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Judas). Without his death, the life of Jesus would have had no greater meaning. Mother gives the power of the Forbidden Fruit to the lifeless Spawn, resurrecting him in a new form - his cloak and chains are gone, replaced with shining white wings. Mother explains that Cyan was right; Spawn needed to die in order to be resurrected and gain the power to rival God and Satan. Returning to Earth, Spawn finds New York totally destroyed by the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Horsemen_of_the_Apocalypse). The slain population of the Earth have become possessed by angels and demons, who are gathering for the final battle. As Spawn races to the place where Armageddon will be fought, he confronts Zera, the Queen of the Seraphim.
During this battle, Spawn shows Zera his true power as an equal to both God and Satan. Spawn defeats Zera and returns to the battle between Heaven and Hell with her head as a trophy. Spawn arrives at the battle as the last of Heaven's warriors are slain. He believes that he knows one of them. Searching the battle field, Spawn discovers that he knows one of the soldiers as Granny Blake. She realizes that she has been betrayed and misled by her faith in God. Spawn faces off against the Hellspawn of Satan's army, declaring that the Earth realm belongs to him. Calling him a traitor for breaking his oath, the Hellspawn from all the ages converge on their "brother." Spawn battles the Hellspawn, calling upon the earth to swallow them, returning them to Hell. Hearing of this, Satan sends all of his remaining warriors after Spawn. Fearing that Spawn will unbalance Armageddon, God does the same. These events are watched by Mammon and a cloaked figure, whom Mammon responds to as a subordinate. During their exchange it is implied that all is going according to their plan, and Mammon says that he should have never been doubted. As Heaven and Hell attack Spawn, he calls to himself all the power given to him by the Mother, and in a single display of power destroys the armies of Heaven and Hell, along with the rest of humanity.
Laughing, he dismisses his act as a way to halt the Armageddon itself, leaving God and Satan without soldiers to use in their battle. He then asks the Mother to restore his children to their former glory and powers, but refuses to fight them. They eventually incinerate Spawn, then proceed their endless battle... fighting by themselves, in a barren, scorched Earth.

[michaeljsmith]

I know in issue 100, Spawn killed Malebolgia. Dunno if that's what you're referring to. If I find time to get out of the house, I'll pick up a few issues today.

I would recommend the recent arc #174-#175 as totally insane writing and art but if you are really looking to jump back in and get an understanding you can either start with The New Flesh Collection in trade or if you want to see the end of the world pickup Armageddon.

http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0707/17/spawnnewflesh.jpg

Here's a list of trades for ones wanting to track them down.

* Spawn Volume 1 - contains issues 1-8, 11-12
* Spawn Volume 2 - contains issues 13-33
* Spawn Volume 3 - contains issues 34-54
* Spawn Volume 4 - contains issues 55-75
* Spawn Volume 5 - contains issues 76-96
* Spawn Volume 6 - contains issues 97-117

* Spawn: The Armageddon Collection Part 1 - contains issues 150-155
* Spawn: The Armageddon Collection Part 2 - contains issues 156-163
* Spawn: The Complete Armageddon Collection - contains issues 150-163
* Spawn: New Flesh Collection - contains issues 166-169

[michaeljsmith]

For those that are looking for trye insight into Spawn this was solicitated last month for May release. This book is going to be insane. Ashley Wood art - how can you possibly go wrong?



SPAWN: THE BOOK OF THE DEAD HC http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0802/20/spawnbookofdeadth.jpg (http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0802/20/spawnbookofdead.htm)
Written by David Hine, art by Ashley Wood and Geirrod Van Dyke, cover by Wood.
At long last, the unholy legend can be told! Secrets revealed! In-depth character backgrounds! Hellishly brilliant character art! From Malebolgia to Sam and Twitch to the Heap, each character in the Spawn comic mythos is beautifully rendered by Wood and Van Dyke. The secret history of the Hellspawn is finally divulged with comprehensive text by Spawn writer David Hine. 72 pages, $24.95, in stores on May 29.

[michaeljsmith]

You're on. I'll give it a shot, but do me a favor and bump up this thread with a reminder post when the issue hits so I don't forget.

Hey Overdrive said message and thread have been bumped for your purchasing pleasure this week. Wednesday Spawn #176 drops --->

http://oldercomics.com/rick/spawn176.jpgstory DAVID HINE art & cover BRIAN HABERLIN
People are dying and witnesses swear the killer is a ghost. Police profiler Marc Simmons thinks he knows better but his suspect has the perfect alibi. Can Spawn solve the riddle of "The Monster in the Bubble?"

[PamGrierOverdrive]

I'm on it! It's a slow week for me this week with just Spawn, The Spirit and Diamond's Previews. I'll post what I think on Thursday or Friday.

[PamGrierOverdrive]

I'm on it! It's a slow week for me this week with just Spawn, The Spirit and Diamond's Previews. I'll post what I think on Thursday or Friday.

[michaeljsmith]

I'm on it! It's a slow week for me this week with just Spawn, The Spirit and Diamond's Previews. I'll post what I think on Thursday or Friday.

COOL - shot you a PM as well, I am just a man out here trying to pimp a book that I think is one heck of a read. Hope you enjoy it...

[stingerman]

Thanks for all the info guys, I am definitely going to pick up the Armageddon stuff.

[michaeljsmith]

NICE - let me know what you think after checking it out. I will always be here pimping the book and working towards my mission of making Spawn a top 50 book each and every month.

[stingerman]

NICE - let me know what you think after checking it out. I will always be here pimping the book and working towards my mission of making Spawn a top 50 book each and every month.

Will do...

[Mr. Sam]

I would recommend the recent arc #174-#175 as totally insane writing and art but if you are really looking to jump back in and get an understanding you can either start with The New Flesh Collection in trade or if you want to see the end of the world pickup Armageddon.

http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0707/17/spawnnewflesh.jpg

Here's a list of trades for ones wanting to track them down.

* Spawn Volume 1 - contains issues 1-8, 11-12
* Spawn Volume 2 - contains issues 13-33
* Spawn Volume 3 - contains issues 34-54
* Spawn Volume 4 - contains issues 55-75
* Spawn Volume 5 - contains issues 76-96
* Spawn Volume 6 - contains issues 97-117

* Spawn: The Armageddon Collection Part 1 - contains issues 150-155
* Spawn: The Armageddon Collection Part 2 - contains issues 156-163
* Spawn: The Complete Armageddon Collection - contains issues 150-163
* Spawn: New Flesh Collection - contains issues 166-169

Thanks a lot man, I'll be hunting those down. I need a new comic to collect regularly. The new Ultimates is crap even if it wasn't a limited series and Hitch & Millar are only going to be doing Fantastic Four for another... fourteen issues. Getting real O/T, just thanks. If I pick 'em up, I'll let you know what I think. I always found Spawn a bit confusing, even when I followed it pretty strictly.

[michaeljsmith]

Thanks a lot man, I'll be hunting those down. I need a new comic to collect regularly. The new Ultimates is crap even if it wasn't a limited series and Hitch & Millar are only going to be doing Fantastic Four for another... fourteen issues. Getting real O/T, just thanks. If I pick 'em up, I'll let you know what I think. I always found Spawn a bit confusing, even when I followed it pretty strictly.

I agree on Ultimates-3.... IT SUCKS!! and Fantastic Four is looking good, but as you said it is a limited run. I understand your thoughts on Spawn but David Hine has really tied things together for both the long-time fans as well as the new readers.

[stingerman]

New issue was good. I hope Spawn pops that freakazoid's bubble!

[ersatz]

WOW! It feels that i've been under a rock for so long and miss so much of spawn. i have a log of catching up to do to know what has been happening with my fave character. i was there when everybody was saying that this will just be a fly by night title from a group of upstart that wants to show marvel what they can do. but boy, that's prehistoric. i want to get back to reading spawn again and MUST check this thread to know more information...:D

[Gavin Higginbotham, BotF]

Here's a list of trades for ones wanting to track them down.

* Spawn Volume 1 - contains issues 1-8, 11-12
* Spawn Volume 2 - contains issues 13-33
* Spawn Volume 3 - contains issues 34-54
* Spawn Volume 4 - contains issues 55-75
* Spawn Volume 5 - contains issues 76-96
* Spawn Volume 6 - contains issues 97-117

* Spawn: The Armageddon Collection Part 1 - contains issues 150-155
* Spawn: The Armageddon Collection Part 2 - contains issues 156-163
* Spawn: The Complete Armageddon Collection - contains issues 150-163
* Spawn: New Flesh Collection - contains issues 166-169

Have volumes 4 and 5 come out yet? I love big fat trade collections and these new SPAWN collections are huge value for money. I only started reading the book just before the Armageddon sage started and have only managed to get back issues of 1-23, 25, and then scattered others through to 145 or so. Which means that these trades are awesome for me.

[michaeljsmith]

WOW! It feels that i've been under a rock for so long and miss so much of spawn. i have a log of catching up to do to know what has been happening with my fave character. i was there when everybody was saying that this will just be a fly by night title from a group of upstart that wants to show marvel what they can do. but boy, that's prehistoric. i want to get back to reading spawn again and MUST check this thread to know more information...:D

Welcome - I have posted the trades and good jumping on points. The new issue came out yesterday and it starts a new 2 issue story arc. Unfortunately I'm traveling right now and won't get my copy until Friday - but expect a full review once it has been read.

[PamGrierOverdrive]

So I picked up Spawn 174 yesterday, along with a couple back issues including the first part of the recent Gunslinger Spawn story and the Mandarin Spawn issue from about a year ago which was in the $1 bin. Loved the "Spawn legacy" issues, so I'll focus on #174.

The recap page was appreciated, although it could have used another paragraph because I was lost on a few points, such as the identity of the young witch character, the timeframe in which these murders have been occurring (was this the first issue dealing with the manga serial killer?), and were those in fact Al Simmons' parents at the beginning of the issue. Also a bit distracted by the artwork, which is spectacular when Spawn or a horrific scene are being depicted, but a bit muddied when normal "everyday" scenes are being shown.

However, having said all of that, there is a great deal of potential with these creators, and the storyline drew me in enough that I want to get the next issue to see the resolution. All in all, a very creepy atmosphere and interesting concept in terms of the serial killer kid in the bubble. But the other 2 issues were real highlights, particularly the done-in-one Mandarin Spawn yarn.

[michaeljsmith]

However, having said all of that, there is a great deal of potential with these creators, and the storyline drew me in enough that I want to get the next issue to see the resolution. All in all, a very creepy atmosphere and interesting concept in terms of the serial killer kid in the bubble.


Nice - I have not picked up my issue yet but I sincerely appreciate you giving my favorite title a chance. I know if more people picked it up Spawn would be a top title again.

[Greg Anderson]

So I picked up Spawn 174 yesterday, along with a couple back issues including the first part of the recent Gunslinger Spawn story and the Mandarin Spawn issue from about a year ago which was in the $1 bin. Loved the "Spawn legacy" issues, so I'll focus on #174.

The recap page was appreciated, although it could have used another paragraph because I was lost on a few points, such as the identity of the young witch character, the timeframe in which these murders have been occurring (was this the first issue dealing with the manga serial killer?), and were those in fact Al Simmons' parents at the beginning of the issue. Also a bit distracted by the artwork, which is spectacular when Spawn or a horrific scene are being depicted, but a bit muddied when normal "everyday" scenes are being shown.

However, having said all of that, there is a great deal of potential with these creators, and the storyline drew me in enough that I want to get the next issue to see the resolution. All in all, a very creepy atmosphere and interesting concept in terms of the serial killer kid in the bubble. But the other 2 issues were real highlights, particularly the done-in-one Mandarin Spawn yarn.


Yes. Yeeeeessss. One of us. OONNEE OF USSSSS.... :evilsmile :evilsmile

Heh, glad to hear you're enjoying the book. I haven't been able to pick up the new issue yet myself, but I'm loving what I'm hearing about it. And if you think the first issue of the Gunslinger issue was good, just wait till you pick up part 2!

And yes, 176 is the first issue dealing with the manga killer.

[Mr. Sam]

So I got the Armageddon collection. Pretty good, pretty good. The ending was what really took my breath away, there were some times where I felt the pacing was a bit questionable but overall it was a pretty great book. As someone who read the very first comics, I was stunned by the revelation that Al beat Wanda and made her miscarry. Incredible.

[michaeljsmith]

It is amazing to think for 160 issues Al had one thought in his head and it all is skewed by one little detail that Magliob made him forget - he was an abusive ass of a husband.

Glad you liked it and would encourage you to check out The New Flesh collection as well as the current run. I get excited when it comes to all things Spawn.

[Greg Anderson]

So I got the Armageddon collection. Pretty good, pretty good. The ending was what really took my breath away, there were some times where I felt the pacing was a bit questionable but overall it was a pretty great book. As someone who read the very first comics, I was stunned by the revelation that Al beat Wanda and made her miscarry. Incredible.

Yeah, it surely was a great read and I could understand some of the pacing stuff. When the issues were coming out, it was mentioned by Dave how they wanted to go through the Armageddon arc as quick as they can that way they could tell the other stories they planned on telling afterwards rather than dragging the End of Days arc for years. Also, I think Hine was experimenting on certain things to get the feel of the books since he was new and was trying out new stuff while posting in the Spawn message boards for thoughts and criticism.

[Mr. Sam]

It is amazing to think for 160 issues Al had one thought in his head and it all is skewed by one little detail that Magliob made him forget - he was an abusive ass of a husband.

Glad you liked it and would encourage you to check out The New Flesh collection as well as the current run. I get excited when it comes to all things Spawn.

You should. It takes me back to first discovering Spawn as a kid. Was awesome.

[Greg Anderson]

It is amazing to think for 160 issues Al had one thought in his head and it all is skewed by one little detail that Magliob made him forget - he was an abusive ass of a husband.


You know, if you recall in one of the issues in the 120s, there was a story that showed that Al was in fact abusive and that he may have caused a miscarriage, except it didn't seem like much of an important plot to whatelse was going on in the main story. I also think it maybe a previous issue way before that, maybe they referenced to something like that, I'm not too sure. But Hine was in fact the first one to go into it and show exactly what had happened and why it was one of the many reasons it related to him being a Hellspawn.

[michaeljsmith]

You should. It takes me back to first discovering Spawn as a kid. Was awesome.

I have been with the book since issue #1 back in 1992 and love how I have been able to grow with the book. When I go back and read the first issues they don't talk to me the way they did but it brings back some great memories. I love to try and bring others to the good side and realize this book is REALLY GOOD.

[michaeljsmith]

So I picked up Spawn 174 yesterday, along with a couple back issues including the first part of the recent Gunslinger Spawn story and the Mandarin Spawn issue from about a year ago which was in the $1 bin. Loved the "Spawn legacy" issues, so I'll focus on #174.

The recap page was appreciated, although it could have used another paragraph because I was lost on a few points, such as the identity of the young witch character, the timeframe in which these murders have been occurring (was this the first issue dealing with the manga serial killer?), and were those in fact Al Simmons' parents at the beginning of the issue. Also a bit distracted by the artwork, which is spectacular when Spawn or a horrific scene are being depicted, but a bit muddied when normal "everyday" scenes are being shown.

However, having said all of that, there is a great deal of potential with these creators, and the storyline drew me in enough that I want to get the next issue to see the resolution. All in all, a very creepy atmosphere and interesting concept in terms of the serial killer kid in the bubble. But the other 2 issues were real highlights, particularly the done-in-one Mandarin Spawn yarn.

Just picked up my issue and I agree with you art assessment during the "normal scenes" in some cases - especially Marc at the crime scene.

I loved the brief tie-in back to his family talk so that we don't wonder what happened after he read the journal. This was a nice tie-in to the issue just before Gunslinger Spawn. Nyx (she is Spawn's hot girlfirnd witch) seems to have a little more power these days - or better control. There are the goofy comments about people reading comics and manga in general but those little momements played well into the story. I have only read the issue once but I expect it will get even better next read.

David brought up an interesting point in this issue about Bubble-Boy having powers after the white-light. I wonder if others have also become talented since the great whie light. This is a direction to go with some new characters. I also liked the fact that Al didn't save the girl - still shows him as being flawed... but seriously are you telling me he couldnt have grabbed her with his chains? Maybe the suit didn't want him to save her.

[michaeljsmith]

Have volumes 4 and 5 come out yet? I love big fat trade collections and these new SPAWN collections are huge value for money. I only started reading the book just before the Armageddon sage started and have only managed to get back issues of 1-23, 25, and then scattered others through to 145 or so. Which means that these trades are awesome for me.

Yes, trade collection #4 is out now and #5 should be the next 30 days and according to Spawn.com personnel #6 is good for the June solicit. These are incredible to allow others to catch up on a fabulous book.

[PamGrierOverdrive]

The downer ending is one of the things I liked best; it shows the writer is willing to go down roads you might not expect (typically the "hero" saves the day). One question I had was that Spawn's mother appeared to be caucasian: is this indeed the case?

[michaeljsmith]

No, she is just very light complected. She is African-American.

[stingerman]

So I got the Armageddon collection. Pretty good, pretty good. The ending was what really took my breath away, there were some times where I felt the pacing was a bit questionable but overall it was a pretty great book. As someone who read the very first comics, I was stunned by the revelation that Al beat Wanda and made her miscarry. Incredible.

Dang, I just ordered it off ebay. You spoiled it for me. :D

[michaeljsmith]

For the record it wasn't me who spoiled it for you....

[Greg Anderson]

Dang, I just ordered it off ebay. You spoiled it for me. :D

Heh, damn, that sucks. But no worries, the lay-outs of that issue was beautiful and when everything gets revealed, it's just really intense, especially the way it's drawn and when you see what Al did just strikes a cord.

[stingerman]

Heh, damn, that sucks. But no worries, the lay-outs of that issue was beautiful and when everything gets revealed, it's just really intense, especially the way it's drawn and when you see what Al did just strikes a cord.

Actually I think I kinda heard that from somwhere before, no prob. ;)

[Greg Anderson]

Actually I think I kinda heard that from somwhere before, no prob. ;)

Yeah, I do remember reading that people got so disgusted by what Al did that they wanted to just drop the book entirely and that it's was very cruel and that they couldn't support a character like that anymore. I just call that damn good writing. :)

[michaeljsmith]

Yes we all understood when he killed hundreds of people as a government agent but the minute he hit his wife we all hate the guy. Make a deal with the devil, go rule hell for a while, kill a few angels that is cool - you are a hero to cheer for. Domestic abuse and the only way we forgive you is if you play in th NFL.

[stingerman]

Domestic abuse and the only way we forgive you is if you play in th NFL.

Unless you torture some dogs then you head directly to jail, go figure...

[michaeljsmith]

Unless you torture some dogs then you head directly to jail, go figure...

Now you are killing me --- not that I like to admit this out loud these days but I am a HUGE Falcons fan, so I have issues... lots and lots of issues.

[stingerman]

Now you are killing me --- not that I like to admit this out loud these days but I am a HUGE Falcons fan, so I have issues... lots and lots of issues.

hehe, personally I don't think Vick should go to jail, maybe a huge fine...but with all these animal lovers...and liberals, doh! now you got me started!

[michaeljsmith]

Better be careful or PETA will come after you and your Wendall campaign....animal lovers are crazy like that.

[PamGrierOverdrive]

Most animals are worth more than most people I've met. Sad but true.

[Mr. Sam]

Got Spawn 176 in order to test the waters today, as well as the first issues of Ultimate Iron Man/Ultimate Human. My only regret is that I didn't buy more comics, all were excellent, although Spawn stood out the most. It's still classic Spawn, judging from this issue at least, but it's got even more of a sadistic twist to it than usual. Beautifully written, drawn and everything else. A great book.

[stingerman]

Better be careful or PETA will come after you and your Wendall campaign....animal lovers are crazy like that.

I hear that. Animal rights over human rights. :eek:

[Greg Anderson]

Most animals are worth more than most people I've met. Sad but true.

Sadly I must say I agree.

[Greg Anderson]

Speaking of animals, I say Spawn should have a pet bunny. A bunny Spawn, maybe. I'm sure Hine could make it work.

[michaeljsmith]

Got Spawn 176 in order to test the waters today, as well as the first issues of Ultimate Iron Man/Ultimate Human. My only regret is that I didn't buy more comics, all were excellent, although Spawn stood out the most. It's still classic Spawn, judging from this issue at least, but it's got even more of a sadistic twist to it than usual. Beautifully written, drawn and everything else. A great book.

Glad you liked it - seriously I would encourage you to pick up the Armageddon collection and the New Flesh collection... those two trades are really good and they will get you close to the correct run. Grab that past 5 or 6 issues of Spawn and I think you will be just amazed as you were with #176.

[michaeljsmith]

Speaking of animals, I say Spawn should have a pet bunny. A bunny Spawn, maybe. I'm sure Hine could make it work.

...and here I thought you were going to try and pitch a Hell Hound for him. Have you gotten #176 yet or am I pouring salt into the wound?

[Mr. Sam]

Glad you liked it - seriously I would encourage you to pick up the Armageddon collection and the New Flesh collection... those two trades are really good and they will get you close to the correct run. Grab that past 5 or 6 issues of Spawn and I think you will be just amazed as you were with #176.

I got the Armageddon collection. Jeez BrikHed, keep up!

[michaeljsmith]

I got the Armageddon collection. Jeez BrikHed, keep up!

See what happens when I try to type these on my phone - now that "got" Armageddon go and "get" the New Flesh collection

Thanks for putting me on me place - I deserved that ;)

[Greg Anderson]

...and here I thought you were going to try and pitch a Hell Hound for him. Have you gotten #176 yet or am I pouring salt into the wound?

No. :(:(:(:(

[michaeljsmith]

WOW - by now I would think you could find it on-line to read somewhere if you have no problems with moral issues. Maybe you will get your copy before #177 comes out - at this rate I might as well just go buy you one and mail it to you.

You are missing out.

[michaeljsmith]

I know that #176 just came out this week, but it is never too early to look ahead to the next issue. How many of us want to see Bubble Boy get the snot kicked out of his ugly head? Will Marc realize that Al and his hot witch girlfriend have him under a spell? And will Mammon and the hooded guy really have a three-some with Al's mom? Check out the preview for issue #177....

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SPAWN
MONTHLY SERIES
ISSUE 177 | APRIL 2008

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TITLE STORY David Hine LETTERS Tom Orzechowski COVER Brian Haberlin, Geirrod van Dyke COLORS Andy Troy INKS Brian Haberlin PENCILS Brian Haberlin

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Imagine you are a monster, abandoned by your family, confined to a locked room, friendless and alone. Imagine you are so repulsive that the only people who can stand to look at you are the ones who are paid to attend to you. Imagine you have been given unbelievable power. Imagine what you would do... The stunning conclusion to 'The Monster in the Bubble.'

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[flashdisk]

:D
I know that #176 just came out this week, but it is never too early to look ahead to the next issue. How many of us want to see Bubble Boy get the snot kicked out of his ugly head? Will Marc realize that Al and his hot witch girlfriend have him under a spell? And will Mammon and the hooded guy really have a three-some with Al's mom? Check out the preview for issue #177....

Nice summary.

[michaeljsmith]

As the phrase goes "inquiring minds want to know"

As messed up Al's mom is, bubble boy might be another long lost brother to Al.

[michaeljsmith]

I am not sure if anyone saw this or not but TMP had an incredible April Fools joke on their website....


TMP TO PUBLISH 'SPAWN,' OTHER TITLES, AS CHILDREN'S BOOKS
'Learn and Grow with Spawn' to Expand Traditional 'Spawn' Audience
April 01, 2008
Copyright 2008 TMP International, Inc.
Todd McFarlane Productions is proud to present our latest publishing venture: Learn and Grow with Spawn.

Learn and Grow with Spawn is an all-ages adaptation of the Spawn comic book, intended for children from 3 to 7 years old. The simplified art and dialogue are designed to stimulate rapidly developing minds, and instill a love of reading and art at an early age. The first issue, available April 1, covers the origin of Spawn.

TMP founder, Todd McFarlane, says, "As an artist, I want my creation to be seen by the largest possible audience. As a businessman, I know we need to attract new, younger readers to the comic book industry. Learn and Grow with Spawn is an obvious step in this new direction."

Learn and Grow with Spawn will be available in local comic book stores, at major booksellers across the country, and through online retailers. Look for future Learn and Grow titles featuring Sam and Twitch, Cy-Gor, the Violator, and Billy Kincaid.

Enjoy this special 6-page preview of Learn and Grow with Spawn, exclusively on Spawn.com!


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[Greg Anderson]

Teasers for upcoming Spawn stuff

http://board.spawn.com/images/board/Simmons_tease.jpg

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[michaeljsmith]

The art on this book is really starting to catch up with the writing - for those that remember this book from the early "super hero" look how can you not look at some of those teasers and get excited?

Buy this book or else :mad:

[Greg Anderson]

FINALLY!!!!

I finally got the book, after forever. This calls for celebration. But yeah, anyway, I must say I'm a little indifferent to this issue. I didn't hate it but I didn't love it. But at the same time I can't find anything wrong with it. I dunno, maybe the issue went a little fast. There wasn't much breathing space to take much of anything in, things were just skipping through and Al was just popping up out of nowhere. But I should say the best parts were definitely the scenes of Al's parents. And dammit, who is Cloak?!? :mad: I know it's not Richard because Rich came into the scene way after we met Cloak and he went to Hell and all that...ugh, dammit, who is Cloak already?!

Also, about the art, I can totally see why everyone loves it so much, but it seemed a lil' weird to me this issue. I really missing Andy Troy. I think if we were to use Van Dyke again, he should work with his co-artist from the Gunslinger arc and have a rotating team with them together for an arc and Brian and Andy together for another arc.

[michaeljsmith]

And dammit, who is Cloak?!? :mad: I know it's not Richard because Rich came into the scene way after we met Cloak and he went to Hell and all that...ugh, dammit, who is Cloak already?!

That is one of the more intriguing questions, is it..... Haunt?

Also, about the art, I can totally see why everyone loves it so much, but it seemed a lil' weird to me this issue. I really missing Andy Troy. I think if we were to use Van Dyke again, he should work with his co-artist from the Gunslinger arc and have a rotating team with them together for an arc and Brian and Andy together for another arc.

Styles are too different to alternate those teams. I would love to see Spawn every 3 weeks but I am not sure that audience is there for that...

[K.O.V.G]

Sweet can't wait for more spawn

[michaeljsmith]

Sweet can't wait for more spawn

Contrary to popular belief you cannot have enough Spawn in your life...;)

[colosalhomer]

Hey everyone this is kinda random but I was wondering if I would be able to get some help in identifying this specific copy of Godslayer #1, kinda figured this would be the place to do it :)

Anyways I picked this up off of ebay a couple months back just thinking it was a signed issue of Godslayer, there was no picture but it was only a couple bucks so i said what the heck. When I got it it turned out to be a variant cover of Godslayer #1. The problem is I can't find this comic in any price guide or website anywhere. The only mention of it I found was on the Spawn website and that wasn't much help at all.

So any info you can give me on this would be very much appreciated.

Here's a link to the picture
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii55/joshuarezendes/SpawnGodslayer1VariantSigned001.jpg

[michaeljsmith]

Hey everyone this is kinda random but I was wondering if I would be able to get some help in identifying this specific copy of Godslayer #1, kinda figured this would be the place to do it :)

Anyways I picked this up off of ebay a couple months back just thinking it was a signed issue of Godslayer, there was no picture but it was only a couple bucks so i said what the heck. When I got it it turned out to be a variant cover of Godslayer #1. The problem is I can't find this comic in any price guide or website anywhere. The only mention of it I found was on the Spawn website and that wasn't much help at all.

So any info you can give me on this would be very much appreciated.

Here's a link to the picture
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii55/joshuarezendes/SpawnGodslayer1VariantSigned001.jpg

This was a limited edition cover that was given out as a part of San Diego Comic Con last year. The team all signed that book. I am not sure if there was much "financial" value to the book but as somebody who collected this series, and is sad to see it go, I was glad to snag my copy when it came out. I am not sure if that answers your question or not.

[Mr. Sam]

The art on this book is really starting to catch up with the writing - for those that remember this book from the early "super hero" look how can you not look at some of those teasers and get excited?

I really liked the initial art.... It sure were purdy!

[michaeljsmith]

I really liked the initial art.... It sure were purdy!

....and McFarlane was THE artist of the time. He wrote in "Blood and Shadows" that he screwed up and made Spawn too superhero in the beginning. It is amazing to look at the progression of the art in this book over the years.

[stingerman]

NICE - let me know what you think after checking it out. I will always be here pimping the book and working towards my mission of making Spawn a top 50 book each and every month.

Just finished volumes 1 and 2 of the armageddon tpb. Spoilers (for those who have not read it): I think I liked vol 1 better. I think it was the mystery of not knowing that I liked. To be honest I am not a big fan of the mother universal thing but it worked. Also I wasn't a fan of the reveal that Al punched Wanda in the gut to kill his kid. That didn't seem in character. I wonder if Todd had that planned from the beginning? Or maybe Mammon and that other guy (feed) are messing with Al. Maybe the Mother Universe is as well (hopefully) because in one of those issues Al was referrered to as her enemy but she contradicted that. The art fit perfect it was great. Overall, I enjoyed it a lot.

[Greg Anderson]

Just finished volumes 1 and 2 of the armageddon tpb. Spoilers (for those who have not read it): I think I liked vol 1 better. I think it was the mystery of not knowing that I liked. To be honest I am not a big fan of the mother universal thing but it worked. Also I wasn't a fan of the reveal that Al punched Wanda in the gut to kill his kid. That didn't seem in character. I wonder if Todd had that planned from the beginning? Or maybe Mammon and that other guy (feed) are messing with Al. Maybe the Mother Universe is as well (hopefully) because in one of those issues Al was referrered to as her enemy but she contradicted that. The art fit perfect it was great. Overall, I enjoyed it a lot.

I loved the Armageddon stuff. A lot of people didn't like the MoM character, I for one didn't get too bothered by him/her. As for Al being abusive, I didn't find it too surprising. In an earlier issue before Hine came on board, there showed a scene of Al slapping Wanda and another scene when Wanda shouted to Al how she lost the baby because of him.

[stingerman]

I loved the Armageddon stuff. A lot of people didn't like the MoM character, I for one didn't get too bothered by him/her. As for Al being abusive, I didn't find it too surprising. In an earlier issue before Hine came on board, there showed a scene of Al slapping Wanda and another scene when Wanda shouted to Al how she lost the baby because of him.

I actually did not mind the MoM character, but when he became the mother uni thing I wasn't too thrilled.

Oh I didnt know that about those earlier issues, I haven't read Spawn since, probably, the 30s.

[michaeljsmith]

I didn't like the mother at all. Maybe it is my traditional Christian thinking but I like good and evil. I like light and dark. I like God and Satan. The mother makes it seem like there is harmony and the rest is not important. I hope somehow the forces of good, or heaven, show themself soon. Since the White Light we have only seen forces for Hell. You can't tell me the angels didn't survive somehow. If ygr Clown, Ab and Zab all made it through then so did the angels.

Armageddon was good though. Lasted a long time. Now we are looking forward to Al killing Wanda soon.

Fun stuff!

[Greg Anderson]

Heh, Brik.

I actually rememner when the issues were coming out, I was a little annoyed with the portrayal of God because I was a big practicing Christian. (Heh, Christian reading Spawn.) Also, the way Heaven was presented annoyed the crap outta me also, heh. But eventually, I just got over it. :o

[Greg Anderson]

Wanna ask, in the Armegeddon trade, are Twitch's journal's in there? I'm reading through my issues and I love Twitch's stuff he wrote during all that mayhem. It'd be awesome for the trade readers to see those also.

[stingerman]

Wanna ask, in the Armegeddon trade, are Twitch's journal's in there? I'm reading through my issues and I love Twitch's stuff he wrote during all that mayhem. It'd be awesome for the trade readers to see those also.

Twitch's journals? Were they separate issues? No they are not in there, I dont think.

[stingerman]

Heh, Brik.

I actually rememner when the issues were coming out, I was a little annoyed with the portrayal of God because I was a big practicing Christian. (Heh, Christian reading Spawn.) Also, the way Heaven was presented annoyed the crap outta me also, heh. But eventually, I just got over it. :o

I was raised a Catholic so maybe that's the reason I did not like Mother Goddess cr@p as well. It seemed to me like the writer was trying to make a point that, in his opinion -in the real world, God and the Devil are acting like children, hence being represented like that in the comic. However, I realize its a story and its not a big thing for me. I am still liking Spawn!

[TROUBLEZ]

thanks brikhed21. That summary of all the stuff that has been going on sounds so cool I'm going to track down a boat load of back issues.

Was the Samurai Wars ever in Dark Ages Spawn?

And Al's mom was a Satan worshipper?

Usually I hate retconning things but this new backstory sounds pretty good.

[michaeljsmith]

And Al's mom was a Satan worshipper?

Yes, that was the most bizarre twist to come about lately. The whole time you think Al made this deal with the devil and that is why is he Spawn but then you realize that it had been plotted for almost 200 years and it is his bloodline that was targeted. I don't feel like all of Spawn got rebooted or his past got changed but rather it got expanded and makes you step back and say "oh shit" this is so much bigger than we all originally thought.

It is great stuff and I would encourage your to grab Armageddon through now.

[michaeljsmith]

...not that it is a HUGE win or cherished piece but I just scored Mayhew's original concept sketch for the cover of issue # 180. I wish it was the original art from the cover but I don't have that kind of cash just sitting around. You can see the concept sketch to the finished cover below.

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[Greg Anderson]

Yes, that was the most bizarre twist to come about lately. The whole time you think Al made this deal with the devil and that is why is he Spawn but then you realize that it had been plotted for almost 200 years and it is his bloodline that was targeted. I don't feel like all of Spawn got rebooted or his past got changed but rather it got expanded and makes you step back and say "oh shit" this is so much bigger than we all originally thought.

It is great stuff and I would encourage your to grab Armageddon through now.

You see, I loved that twist because it made a lot more sense to me as Al being picked for a Hellspawn. We were always told that he was a blood thirsty killer, but I always thought it wasn't a good enough excuse because of all the other blood thirsty killers out there. I mean, how come Hitler isn't a Hellspawn. Then we got that whole thing with Al killing his baby which was intense, but I still didn't feel as if it were strong enough to become Spawn. But his mom being a "Satanist" now makes sense with her selling the soul of her child to become Hell's soldier. It has a bit of "Rosemary's Baby" touch to it.

[Greg Anderson]

Twitch's journals? Were they separate issues? No they are not in there, I dont think.

Damn, that really sucks. Twitch's journals added quite a good bit of info here and there and emotional moments into the story. Just great stuff, it really sucks it wasn't collected also.

[Greg Anderson]

You know, I was reading my Armageddon issues again and you've no idea how much fun I had. I don't recall enjoying it as much as I did yesterday. Also, I imagined the reading in my head as some crazy ass anime and imagined how fluid the fights would be. Just great stuff, it'd be awesome if TMP made a deal with a top anime company to produce that arc, and not change a thing in the story whatsoever.

[michaeljsmith]

You see, I loved that twist because it made a lot more sense to me as Al being picked for a Hellspawn. We were always told that he was a blood thirsty killer, but I always thought it wasn't a good enough excuse because of all the other blood thirsty killers out there. I mean, how come Hitler isn't a Hellspawn. Then we got that whole thing with Al killing his baby which was intense, but I still didn't feel as if it were strong enough to become Spawn. But his mom being a "Satanist" now makes sense with her selling the soul of her child to become Hell's soldier. It has a bit of "Rosemary's Baby" touch to it.

I agree 100% - it made the whole story seem less random and more complete. Hine has added a lot of back story to the world of Spawn but not disturbed any of the continuity that was built over the prior 150 plus issues. How many other books can say that after 176 issue the things that happened in issue #1 are still acurate as all of the rest of the story.

[michaeljsmith]

...for those of you that have never checked it out there is a web comic called "Adventures of Spawn". The first issue was so successful it was actually printed. They now have two issues online at http://www.spawn.com/features/series30/comic/ (http://www.spawn.com/features/series30/comic/) and most of us that have checked it out have begged the powers that be at TMP to either make this a regular thing online or in print. Thought I would through this out there for all to get a quick look.

ADVENTURES OF SPAWN
Action! Adventure! Al Simmons is Spawn X. Teamed with the Redeemer and the robotic Omega Spawn, Spawn X must fight the villainous forces of Mammon, Overtkill, Cy-Gor and Tiffany in order to stop them from retrieving the infamous 13 Relics of Ruin.

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[ColdContagious]

Is the content of issue # 176 the norm for this book? It read way too fast and the dialogue wasn't great. I was thinking of picking up this book but i'm not impressed so far.

[michaeljsmith]

Is the content of issue # 176 the norm for this book? It read way too fast and the dialogue wasn't great. I was thinking of picking up this book but i'm not impressed so far.

Actually I start screaming from the mountain tops how wonderful the book is and #176 is my least favorite issue in about that past 10 to 12 issues. Below is a quote from David Hine (writer for Spawn) to give a quick overview of his thoughts...


David Hine - SPAWN writer
Mixed reaction to this issue. The plot outline for Spawn tends to be planned longer ahead than a lot of books on the market. (We're usually soliciting seven months ahead.) After issue 175 Brian and I planned to create a lot of short arcs and one-shots that furthered the long term story but also worked as self-contained stories. The theory was that this would entice new readers.

The Monster in the Bubble story is one of those short (2-part) stories - intended as a tongue-in-cheek comment on popular culture. Reading this thread, I suspect most of you are eager to push forward with the story, especially as we have been teasing you with "Death of Wanda?" "End of Spawn?" and in retrospect we probably inserted too many of these detours. I still think the story is pretty cool but I'm willing to admit we're probably holding off on the meat of the story too long. Behind the scenes though, Spawn is heading for a big climax in issue 184 and the pace will be picking up fast.

Just lay back and enjoy the foreplay guys!

And although the upcoming Warspawn is a one-shot, we're confident you're all gonna love it. In fact if you don't like it, Brian will give you your money back!*

(*Offer not endorsed by Image, Todd McFarlane Publications or Brian Haberlin)

[ColdContagious]

Oh cool. I've also heard some intense things about issue # 166. What is the deal with the chick biting her skin off? I dont mind gore but stuff like that gets to me.

[michaeljsmith]

Oh cool. I've also heard some intense things about issue # 166. What is the deal with the chick biting her skin off? I dont mind gore but stuff like that gets to me.

:biggrin: Spawn #166 was part of the "The Voice-Hearers" story arc. It takes place right after The White Light, which is what everyone calls Armageddon since they survived. When Spawn put the world back together some people had some mental issues to say the least. The woman did not BITE her skin off -- but as you can see from the below pages she did have some issues.

...lots of isses


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[ColdContagious]

What did she end up doing in the end?

[michaeljsmith]

What did she end up doing in the end?

She basically peeled her skin off with a knife - the hot girls are usually the crazy ones. You can somewhat get an idea of it from the below....

http://doctorspawn.iespana.es/imagenes%20originales/spawn166_21.jpg

[ColdContagious]

Wow. So twisted. Was that the last page?

[ColdContagious]

You know that kind of reminds me of a Tales from the Crypt episode.

[michaeljsmith]

Wow. So twisted. Was that the last page?

Actually the last page really shows her face come in from the light and it is disturbing.... unfortunately I do not have a copy of that page on me. Right towards the new start after Armageddon the stories did have a "Tales from the Crypt" feel to them. There was a lot of question on if this was the new direction for more horror type of comic.

I would encourage you to pickup "The New Flesh Collection" it collects issue #166 through #169.

http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0707/17/spawnnewflesh.jpg

[ColdContagious]

Oh cool. Is the book usually that disturbing or is this a stand out?

[Greg Anderson]

Dude, Hine writing? There's bound to be disturbing. :D

I think I have the last page somewhere but I can't find it right now, but that issue was such a blast reading. I've read that arc quite a few times and love the Hell House arc.

The recent issue wasn't as good as his other stuff but I'm sure things'll pick up next issue. I wonder if we'll get an action heavy issue next. And hopefully we'll get some character movements with Al and Marc. Especially with all this family crap going on with Al. Sheeshness.

[TROUBLEZ]

Wow, that art is really nice! Damn, I really have been missing out.

[michaeljsmith]

Wow, that art is really nice! Damn, I really have been missing out.

This book has it all - art and writing. Spawn has always been known for the Todd factor and the "Image" concept in general.... pretty pictures and damn the words. That is NOT this book. Solid art, which keeps getting better, and top notch writing. I agree this past issue was NOT the best issue but let's face it you buy 12 issues a year of any book and you are bound to have an off issue every now and then.

Now my tag line ----> "If you aren't reading this book you are missing out....PERIOD"

[TROUBLEZ]

Even that picture of Adventures of Spawn looks good. The coloring looks like an anime film, and the art is really clean.

Is that picture of Adventures from the actual comic?

[stingerman]

This book has it all - art and writing. Spawn has always been known for the Todd factor and the "Image" concept in general.... pretty pictures and damn the words. That is NOT this book. Solid art, which keeps getting better, and top notch writing. I agree this past issue was NOT the best issue but let's face it you buy 12 issues a year of any book and you are bound to have an off issue every now and then.

Now my tag line ----> "If you aren't reading this book you are missing out....PERIOD"

I actually liked the issue. I remember as a kid hearing about David the Boy in the Bubble and how he couldn't go anywhere because he had some immune problem and this brought up that memory. Also the comic or was it manga reference was kinda cool. Plus he looked real freaky.

[Greg Anderson]

I come bearing covers for Spawn 183 and Spawn Neo Noir trade

http://www.digitalarttutorials.com/files/183cover-editlo.jpg

http://www.digitalarttutorials.com/files/neonoir--lo.jpg

[Greg Anderson]

Preview pages for 177. This looks so kick ass

http://www.digitalarttutorials.com/files/SPWN177inkp12wash.jpg

http://www.digitalarttutorials.com/files/SPWN177inkp15wash.jpg

http://www.digitalarttutorials.com/files/SPWN177inkp17wash.jpg

http://www.digitalarttutorials.com/files/SPWN177inkp22wash.jpg

[stingerman]

Bubble Boy!

http://www.bringbackwendell.com/boy.jpg

[Greg Anderson]

I actually liked the issue. I remember as a kid hearing about David the Boy in the Bubble and how he couldn't go anywhere because he had some immune problem and this brought up that memory. Also the comic or was it manga reference was kinda cool. Plus he looked real freaky.

Wait, that's a common story? :confused:

[stingerman]

Wait, that's a common story? :confused:

Yeah, it was a movie too-

http://www.pinsa.org.za/boy_in_the_bubble.htm

[stingerman]

David-

http://www.wired.com/news/images/full/bubbleboy1_f.jpg

[Greg Anderson]

Yeah, it was a movie too-

http://www.pinsa.org.za/boy_in_the_bubble.htm

Damn......

[stingerman]

Damn......

As in I must be gettin' old, LOL. Gives the story a little more behind it I think, eh?

[Greg Anderson]

As in I must be gettin' old, LOL. Gives the story a little more behind it I think, eh?

Yeah, most definite. Makes it a creeper story too due that it seems David was a innocent nice kiddie and Dave just pushed the button and turned jim into a killer! :eek:

[michaeljsmith]

Those preview pages are absolutely sick man - I am not sure how anyone can look at the art alone and not be intrigued by this book. The funny part is once the words hit the page --->>> BAM :) now you know the power of Spawn. Hine's ability to move Al along is incredible and I am just loving how there is so much going on right now that you always have something lurking over his should.

Mammom and the Monster in the Bubble....... NICE

Crap it just hit me - is that Wanda as Spawn on the cover of #183?

EDIT: Just so I can get this out there and everyone knows that I am crazy. I know who the chic is from the cover..... it is Al's mom. More to come later on that theory.

[K.O.V.G]

Mammon is becoming my favorite spawn villian he's always up to something.

[ColdContagious]

Yeah i have decided to read Spawn for a bit to get a feel for it. BrikHed21's enthusiam for this book has played a large part in that decision.

[Greg Anderson]

Yeah i have decided to read Spawn for a bit to get a feel for it. BrikHed21's enthusiam for this book has played a large part in that decision.

Good to have you on board. :smile: :evilsmile:

[ColdContagious]

Nice to be here. I have a soft spot in my heart for Spawn from back in the day. I look forward to talking to you guys about the book.

[michaeljsmith]

Mammon is becoming my favorite spawn villian he's always up to something.

I don't even think they have begun to scratch the surface. After you see him in Gunslinger Spawn and realize that he has been targeting the Simmons family so long, plus the Malflick pimp-daddy thing.... this guy is one bad mother.:evilsmile:

[michaeljsmith]

Yeah i have decided to read Spawn for a bit to get a feel for it. BrikHed21's enthusiam for this book has played a large part in that decision.

Thanks - I will take that as a compliment to my instanity. As for my passion towards this book I just really enjoy everything about it. I love the fact that the person in issue #177 is the same person from issue #1. He has evolved and changed but unlike a title like Batman (which I love as well) over this same period of time cannot be confused as being the same person throughout.

Welcome to the insanity - Greg and I (as well as a cast of others) are always here to help out.

[ColdContagious]

Much appreciated. So from what i saw in the preview for # 177 it seems Mammon may be responsible for Bubble Boy's powers?

[michaeljsmith]

Much appreciated. So from what i saw in the preview for # 177 it seems Mammon may be responsible for Bubble Boy's powers?

Looks to be one of his many toys... but the question I ask is on the last page Al is on his knees looking sad (as sad as he can) with a melted body around him Is that the body of Marc Simmons? Mammon has already taken his brother Richie, killed his dad and banged his mom, what else is there left to do but take "the good Simmons brother". Time for a family reunion.

[ColdContagious]

Could be. It would be ashame if Mammon killed Marc either before or right after Spawn tells him who he truly is. That would Mammon kicking Al while hes already down.

[Greg Anderson]

Much appreciated. So from what i saw in the preview for # 177 it seems Mammon may be responsible for Bubble Boy's powers?

Well, it seems as if it were Al who probably gave the boy powers. I could be wrong. Al was who caused the white light and it seems that after the white light, people have been getting powers and weird crap has been going on. Good job, Al. But of course... this could be one of Mammon's plans.

[ColdContagious]

Could somebody kind of clarify the whole light thing? I get the basics of it but can you elaborate on if the rest of humanity believes the Rapture happened or chock it all up to a mass hallucination, like Marc was saying. Also is it public knowledge that Spawn caused it?

[Greg Anderson]

Could somebody kind of clarify the whole light thing? I get the basics of it but can you elaborate on if the rest of humanity believes the Rapture happened or chock it all up to a mass hallucination, like Marc was saying. Also is it public knowledge that Spawn caused it?

No problem.

SPOILERS!!!!! (Highlight for them)

In the Armageddon arc, Al destroyed all life on Earth until there was only him, God, and Satan left. MoM, the creator of the universe and of God and Satan left them alone on that world as they continued fighting. Al, who was given the powers of a God used it to bring back the Earth, but this time one a different one seperate from where God and Satan are currently in. He also used his powers to close the portals of Heaven and Hell that way there'd be no interactions, etc. The white light that everyone keep referring to was the white light Al caused to bring every one back to life and revive the world. But it seems the white light is causing quite a few troubles of its own.

As for anyone knowing it was Al's fault, the only people who probably know at this point is Sam, Twitch, and Nyx as they're the only people he confides in. Everyone else sees at as mass hysteria or a work of God, etc.

[michaeljsmith]

Could somebody kind of clarify the whole light thing? I get the basics of it but can you elaborate on if the rest of humanity believes the Rapture happened or chock it all up to a mass hallucination, like Marc was saying. Also is it public knowledge that Spawn caused it?

No two people would describe "the white light" or Armageddon in the same manner. Most of them believe it was a hallucination and others believe that an angel (Spawn) stepped in and stopped all of these terrible things from happening. I am not sure if all people know that Spawn was a part of it but as you will see in Armageddon (when you pick it up) those battles were pretty ugly at the end.

[Greg Anderson]

Holy crap! I'm missing greatness on AoS! :eek:

http://image.comicvine.com/uploads/item/4000/3384/154199-mammon_400.jpg

[michaeljsmith]

Holy crap! I'm missing greatness on AoS! :eek:

Has there been anything Spawn that lacked greatness? Come on G-Stud. Nice interview by the way.

[Greg Anderson]

Has there been anything Spawn that lacked greatness? Come on G-Stud. Nice interview by the way.

Oh, thanks, heh. Had to pimp Hine and Spawn for a bit in it, too. :cool:

[Greg Anderson]

Gunslinger Job Spawn visits a comic con!

http://board.spawn.com/forums/showthread.php?t=448477

[ColdContagious]

So is the existence of angels and God believed by the mass populace in the Spawn universe?

[ColdContagious]

Also where are Al's power levels right now? I take it he doesn't have god like abilities anymore.

[michaeljsmith]

So is the existence of angels and God believed by the mass populace in the Spawn universe?

Most of the world is pretty much in the same beliefs as before... some believe in God and some don't. Everyone was more confused and lost at TWL (the white light).

As for Al's powers he no longer has the world changing powers he did that Mother gave him, though I cannot remember why, but he appears to be back on the same level as before. He powers generate from his symbiot outfit. That is going to be interesting because I believe it is the next arc starts a battle between Spawn and the symbiot for control.... nothing like getting in a fight with your clothes.

[ColdContagious]

Oh cool. So the Spawn suit is a living entity apart from Al?

[michaeljsmith]

Oh cool. So the Spawn suit is a living entity apart from Al?

Yes. This was a big point in early issues but to date Al and the symbiot seemed to have coexisted....that is about to change.

Being on the fun baby!!

[ColdContagious]

It could be that the symbiote is still loyal to Hell and doesn't approve of Al being a hero?

[michaeljsmith]

It could be that the symbiote is still loyal to Hell and doesn't approve of Al being a hero?

Personally I think the symbiote is going to be a key in the death of Wanda. Hine could have some real fun with this dynamic.

I believe "Monster in a Bubble" part 2 is due out the 23rd. Looking forward to the next issue.

[ColdContagious]

That would actually make sense. Wanda is Al's biggest tie to his humanity. The symbiote may want to eliminate that.

[michaeljsmith]

That would actually make sense. Wanda is Al's biggest tie to his humanity. The symbiote may want to eliminate that.

She actually has not been in the series since the end of Armageddon. I think she ties in to the WW2 Spawn that is coming up in 181. It will be interesting to see how she is brought back to the story line.

[ColdContagious]

Are Wanda and Terry still together?

[michaeljsmith]

That would actually make sense. Wanda is Al's biggest tie to his humanity. The symbiote may want to eliminate that.

She actually has not been in the series since the end of Armageddon. I think she ties in to the WW2 Spawn that is coming up in 181. It will be interesting to see how she is brought back to the story line.

[michaeljsmith]

Are Wanda and Terry still together?

Yes! You need to pickup the Armageddon Complete Trade. Their kids Jake and Katie play a big part in that series and Cyan is a key figure at the end of it. Chances are you won't like Al in the end ---> if I say much more I would ruin a chunk of the story for you.

[ColdContagious]

Oh i know what you are referring to. Its despicable, but it adds even more depth to Al's character.

[Greg Anderson]

Also where are Al's power levels right now? I take it he doesn't have god like abilities anymore.

Yeah, God-like powers are gone, but he's MUCH weaker than he's been. He's spoken to Nyx before in saying that his powers now are just simple illusions and at one point, his chains break as if they were dead leaves. We still don't understand what's going on with his power level recently, but we know he can't do much of what he used to do even before the God-like powers and Nyx might help him out in sorting his powers out. Around the time Nyx first came into the series, she was helping him use his powers better before Mammon came and interfered, causing them to be at odds.

[ColdContagious]

Oh wow. So Al really depends on Nyx?

[Greg Anderson]

Oh wow. So Al really depends on Nyx?

It seems like it. While Al is a lot weaker, Nyx seems to be much stronger than she's been. While it may help that Nyx may be able to help Al sort out his powers and all the nooks and crannies, Mammon sort of makes it hard with his constant interfering and causing trouble for Al.

[ColdContagious]

So has it been established that Hell still exists in the new world?

[Greg Anderson]

So has it been established that Hell still exists in the new world?

Oh yes. For one, it seems as if Hellholes are popping out. Al had to close one by destroying this apartment building and dragging Violator down there. Also, Ab and Zab, demon guys who can open doors to portals and were once working for Al started creating some doors in a Hell House just for fun. Mammon has also recently talked Al's little brother, Richard - now a priest- into walking into Hell.

[ColdContagious]

Whats the status on Violater? Also any appearances regarding Heaven? Sorry for so many questions i'm just trying to get up to speed.

[Greg Anderson]

Whats the status on Violater? Also any appearances regarding Heaven? Sorry for so many questions i'm just trying to get up to speed.

Currently, Violator's in Hell.

He's found some way to sort of infect humans and turn them into "Clowns." First he returned to Earth and fused with Jason Wynn and would meet hookers who looked like Wanda and kill them. Al went after him while Violator turned almost all of a neighborhood or borough into Clowns and they all fought Al until he went comatose. Violator then came back, seperate from Wynn, after the White Light event and persuaded the tenants into acting out their desires and caused many to do tons of crazy stuff, like that girl Celia peeling off her skin. We found out he was possessing a man who was trapped in a suite. Eventually, a Hell Hole opened, which Violator was going to use to bring his brothers to Earth, but Al sent Violator down there and closed it before his brothers could come about and cause terror.

[michaeljsmith]

My man Greg dropping the knowledge. As for the Heaven thing we have not seen anything yet - except for Zera's head in a jar. I told Hine I was a little pisard about the lack of Angela to this point. He claims they are in the future, I will believe it when I see it.

[Greg Anderson]

Lack of Angels or Angela? lol

I'm really anticipating the return of Redeemer. And it doesn't even have to be him with the wings and suit and powers, just as Eddie would be fine. (I believe Eddie was his name.) I mean, Hine's building up Al's supporting cast and I think it's a bout time Al and Eddie made up. They've been constantly at odds because of damn Mammon messing up their relationship and then we have that whole thing with Cog sending Al back to Earth making it seem as if Al abandoned him. Poor guy.

[michaeljsmith]

Yes angels - unfortunately Angela is not going to be coming back fr the dead. I do miss her, and Tiffany as well. Zera is a barrel of laughs but Tiffany would be a nice character to make a comeback.

I would love to see Redeemer messing with Spawn again. There needs to be a heaven version of Mammon that could join the fun.

[Greg Anderson]

Yes angels - unfortunately Angela is not going to be coming back fr the dead. I do miss her, and Tiffany as well. Zera is a barrel of laughs but Tiffany would be a nice character to make a comeback.

I would love to see Redeemer messing with Spawn again. There needs to be a heaven version of Mammon that could join the fun.

I think it's about darn time Tiffany came back. She kicked so much ass it was amazing. But the way Al got rid of her was pretty grusome and funny. The character hasn't been back for maybe 100 issues. WTF. But I see in AoS, she's an Amazon instead of an angel. I guess since it's suppose to be a kiddie/family book, they decided to tone down Heaven being "evil" and all.

[michaeljsmith]

I think it's about darn time Tiffany came back. She kicked so much ass it was amazing. But the way Al got rid of her was pretty grusome and funny. The character hasn't been back for maybe 100 issues. WTF. But I see in AoS, she's an Amazon instead of an angel. I guess since it's suppose to be a kiddie/family book, they decided to tone down Heaven being "evil" and all.

Well that and she is partnered with Cy-Gor, Overt-Kill and Mammon....so that is a little different. What was her last appearance?

[Greg Anderson]

Well that and she is partnered with Cy-Gor, Overt-Kill and Mammon....so that is a little different. What was her last appearance?

Well, she first appeared as a bit of a replacement for Angela and went after Al. She ended up cutting Al's head only for her to fidn out that Al tricked her into cutting a bunch of bugs. He then summons the animals from the woods they were fighting and they all eat her till she's nothing but bones. Later, Cog tells Al that she's not really dead. Thus far, we've yet to see her again except in the Armageddon arc, but she was basically an "illusion," one of Thamuz's torturers.

[michaeljsmith]

Well, she first appeared as a bit of a replacement for Angela and went after Al. She ended up cutting Al's head only for her to fidn out that Al tricked her into cutting a bunch of bugs. He then summons the animals from the woods they were fighting and they all eat her till she's nothing but bones. Later, Cog tells Al that she's not really dead. Thus far, we've yet to see her again except in the Armageddon arc, but she was basically an "illusion," one of Thamuz's torturers.

I remember Cog's statement but I couldn't remember her ever appearing again.
There are quite a few characters that are in limbo. She is one I would like to see again.

[Greg Anderson]

I remember Cog's statement but I couldn't remember her ever appearing again.
There are quite a few characters that are in limbo. She is one I would like to see again.

I don't have any of the appearance of Curse or Cy-Gor. What happened to them?

Also, wouldn't it be funny if Mark came back at some point?

[michaeljsmith]

I don't have any of the appearance of Curse or Cy-Gor. What happened to them?

Also, wouldn't it be funny if Mark came back at some point?

Cy-Gor actually had a 6 issue mini of his own there early on. I saw the issues on eBay the other day for $5 for the set, I should have grabbed it but money is tight.

Which Mark?

[Greg Anderson]

Cy-Gor actually had a 6 issue mini of his own there early on. I saw the issues on eBay the other day for $5 for the set, I should have grabbed it but money is tight.

Which Mark?

Yeah, I know about the Cy-Gor mini. I believe he fought Kali and killed her. He also appeared in Hellspawn and I remember he ripped Al in half.

Mark was the guy who was obsessed with becoming a Hellspawn and tried to make a bargain with Al for him to take Al's place as a Hellspawn. Al put him through trials to see if he was willing to keep going on with his goal and Mark passed it. Just when Mark thought Spawn would keep his end of the bargain and become a Hellspawn, Al kills him.

The last time you see Mark is in the battle in Hell when Al first summoned his Spawn army to face against the demons in hell who were trying to get Al's throne.

This is Mark...

http://image.comicvine.com/uploads/item/50000/49488/117388-mark_400.jpg

http://image.comicvine.com/uploads/item/50000/49488/174166-mark_400.jpg

http://image.comicvine.com/uploads/item/50000/49488/110190-mark_400.jpg

[michaeljsmith]

I completely forgot about that guy, I need to pull out those issues and read through them again. He kind of reminds me of The Freak a little in those pictures.

I can't imagine Mark we be back in the future though.

[ColdContagious]

Do you guys feel that villains like Cy Gor, Overtkill, Tremor etc would be a good fit in the book these days? Some may consider these guys too "90's". Hine was able to make Clown a credible threat again. How do you think he would do with these characters?

[michaeljsmith]

Do you guys feel that villains like Cy Gor, Overtkill, Tremor etc would be a good fit in the book these days? Some may consider these guys too "90's". Hine was able to make Clown a credible threat again. How do you think he would do with these characters?

I think Clown will always be credible in the book. I know he was meant to be McFarlane's answer to Joker but that just did not pan out. Mammon is the man when it comes to villains but just like jell-o there is always room for a good villain. I think that Overtkill is probably the least viable. Cyborb killing machine? Been there and done that a couple of times. Maybe if Jason Wynn were running around again then I could see it. The others have a chance and I would not mind seeing a few of them sprinkled in from time-to-time. Ab and Zab made a nice come back and I actually wouldn't mind a little Billy Kincaid action again.

[ColdContagious]

Yeah Kincaid always disturbed me mainly because he was a villain that could exist in the real world.

[michaeljsmith]

Early on he was very real but once we went to hell and became a Spawn and a demon and then a ghost he was right in line with the supernatural crazies that plague Spawn.

So you grabbing any back issues or trades?

[ColdContagious]

Kind of short on cash at the moment, but yeah i plan on it.

[michaeljsmith]

Kind of short on cash at the moment, but yeah i plan on it.

Man do I understand that one. I just got caught up on The Walking Dead and would love to do the same with Savage Dragon but cash is kind and not plentiful.

If you start with The New Flesh collection and move forward you will be good. I believe there is a new trade due out soon.

[ColdContagious]

Cool. I'm gonna keep picking the book up monthly for awhile. I try to keep my pull list to around 10 to13. I just dropped Daredevil. That book was becoming dead weight IMO.

[michaeljsmith]

I really feel like most of the BIG TWO's books are lacking these days.

I will allways collect Batman but other than that DC and their 52/Countdown thing has chased me away. I collect a few Wildstorm minis and hear that StormWatch might be back so that is good. Other than that I cannot get into 52 universes and the crap writing.

Marvel just seems to not be doing be doing much for me other than Captain America. Thunderbolts has slowed so much I am about to drop it and Fantastic Four is not living up to the hype.

I am digging a lot of Image books with Invincible, The Walking Dead, Spawn, and Jonathan Hickman's minis of Pax Romana and TransHuman. I am also excited about FireBreather that is out due out in another month or so. And as I said I am curious about filling in some gaps on my Savage Dragon.

Lots of options out there and not a lot of money.

[ColdContagious]

Yea Batman is really the only DC character i give a shit about. Simon Dark has been pretty cool so far though.

[ColdContagious]

By the way, Spawn # 177 comes out the 23rd or the 30th?

[michaeljsmith]

By the way, Spawn # 177 comes out the 23rd or the 30th?

23rd - can't wait.

[ColdContagious]

Nice. Does it usually come out around the same time each month?

[Greg Anderson]

Nice. Does it usually come out around the same time each month?

Nah, I believe it varies at what week it comes out, but it usually is each month.

[stingerman]

I really feel like most of the BIG TWO's books are lacking these days.

I will allways collect Batman but other than that DC and their 52/Countdown thing has chased me away. I collect a few Wildstorm minis and hear that StormWatch might be back so that is good. Other than that I cannot get into 52 universes and the crap writing.

Marvel just seems to not be doing be doing much for me other than Captain America. Thunderbolts has slowed so much I am about to drop it and Fantastic Four is not living up to the hype.

I am digging a lot of Image books with Invincible, The Walking Dead, Spawn, and Jonathan Hickman's minis of Pax Romana and TransHuman. I am also excited about FireBreather that is out due out in another month or so. And as I said I am curious about filling in some gaps on my Savage Dragon.

Lots of options out there and not a lot of money.

I feel the same. I have shyed away from most Marvel and DC. Really Nova and Ghost Rider (which has been really good with Jason Aaron writing it) for Marvel and Green Lantern stuff from DC. I've been trying a bunch of Image and Indies and I am happy with the results.

[michaeljsmith]

I live in this happy little world, which I know is make believe, but I really want to read about characters that the writers and artist care about. You pick up a book on a regular basis and you get invested in the character and the story. For all of the faults people want to point out about Spawn, only 3 people have written the book in the past #175 issues (with a guest writer here and there) and the character has grown. I love what Kirkman is doing with his books and find myself chasing these titles so much more than the big ones. I just hate when you find a good book and because it is a little off the beaten path it gets cancelled (see The Cirlce for a great example).

[Chintzy Beatnik]

While I don't always shy away from the big 2, I generally enjoy the Image books because the characters generally grow and change, while somebody like Batman won't change all that much over the years. At least nothing too groundbreaking.

[Greg Anderson]

I, myself, am on the side of just dropping to full time Image and/or other Indies. I dropped a lot of Marvel and DC. But I'm staying with X-Factor, Simon Dark, Hellblazer and Nightwing. Although I still haven't picked up the new NW, HB, or SD and not really too hype about it, but we'll see through time.

[michaeljsmith]

I, myself, am on the side of just dropping to full time Image and/or other Indies. I dropped a lot of Marvel and DC. But I'm staying with X-Factor, Simon Dark, Hellblazer and Nightwing. Although I still haven't picked up the new NW, HB, or SD and not really too hype about it, but we'll see through time.

I was trying Nightwing too lately but it just wasn't getting it for me. If they would have put Simon Dark in a different city than Gotham I might be more inclined to pick it up. I just fear that the book will continue to struggle and they will introduce Batman at some point as a safety net.

[ColdContagious]

Yeah i agree that setting Simon Dark in Gotham probably wasn't a smart move. Its almost gimmicky. The book is good enough to go without an appearance of Batman IMO.

[ColdContagious]

Was it explained how Marc Simmons deduced that it was Erskine committing the murders? I think i missed that plot point. Maybe Brikhed or Greg can answer this one.

[michaeljsmith]

Was it explained how Marc Simmons deduced that it was Erskine committing the murders? I think i missed that plot point. Maybe Brikhed or Greg can answer this one.

No that is a hole in the story. We just have to assume that Marc is that good. There was a story in Curse of the Spawn years ago that showed him as a profiler and how good he was at this stuff.

[stingerman]

Yeah i agree that setting Simon Dark in Gotham probably wasn't a smart move. Its almost gimmicky. The book is good enough to go without an appearance of Batman IMO.

I liked Simon as well. I need to pick up the last two issues though. I don't know how much longer this book will be around as its not even selling twenty thousand. I think last I checked it was at 15 or 16.

[ColdContagious]

Good news stingerman. Simon Dark has a solicit up for issue # 10. It also promises the showdown between Simon and the Cult. The origin of the Cult will also be revealed. So at least we will get to see this storyline concluded before the book is cancelled.

The first Simon Dark TPB is also gonna be released. It collects the first 6 issues. I know this is the Spawn board, but i cant find anybody on the DC board that likes this book.

[Greg Anderson]

Good news stingerman. Simon Dark has a solicit up for issue # 10. It also promises the showdown between Simon and the Cult. The origin of the Cult will also be revealed. So at least we will get to see this storyline concluded before the book is cancelled.

The first Simon Dark TPB is also gonna be released. It collects the first 6 issues. I know this is the Spawn board, but i cant find anybody on the DC board that likes this book.

LOL! It's cool. I love this book myself and don't understand the dislike people have for it. Only problem I have is the issues being decompressed, but overall, it's a great and fun read. I need to pick up the recent issue, though. Maybe next week.