Spawn

[Greg Anderson]

I had not read Spawn for quite some time and decided to try the new creative team. I had bought issues 181-184 to warm me up and found myself really enjoying the David Hine and Brian Haeberlin era. I will put the rest of David Hine's run on my back issue list. But the new direction is very exciting. I can't wait to see what is next.

You're going to have a blast! :smile: I felt the last few issues of Hine's run weren't as great as most of his run, but it's more enjoyable when you've read the previous stuff that lead to it. And man... Imma miss Haberlin. :frown:

[michaeljsmith]

I just wish Hine would have been allowed to kill Al. I just feel he could have tied the act into the story more smoothly.

[bookguy]

After reading number 185, I'm reminded of the chicken running around after having its head cut off.

Really, more obscure than LOST and more convoluted than HEROES.

I should hope that all will make sense eventually.

:eek:

[Global Honored]

I have missed oh..100 + issues and a decade or so of Spawn books. Would I "get it" if I were to pick this up?

[michaeljsmith]

I have missed oh..100 + issues and a decade or so of Spawn books. Would I "get it" if I were to pick this up?

In the simplest answer YES and NO. Issue #185 is really a good jumping on point so if you are interested now is the time. Some things might not make a ton of sense in the issue as they are starting something new so we are ALL trying to figure out the next steps. That is the simple answer without spoiler information. :wink:

[stingerman]

Just read it...had the feel of the old days (early Spawn), imo.

Not bad. Nice, they did mention Hines run in the beginning.

Art was...I liked it at the end. I guess it grew on me.

Anyone else catch, AL'SPAWN SHOP?

Nice to see that patient 47 had some kind of background and *poof* didn't just become the new hellspawn (maybe). What's his past and connections to the "boss"?

There were 5 variants? That is sickening. LOL.

[michaeljsmith]

Just read it...had the feel of the old days (early Spawn), imo.

Not bad. Nice, they did mention Hines run in the beginning.

Art was...I liked it at the end. I guess it grew on me.

Anyone else catch, AL'SPAWN SHOP?

Nice to see that patient 47 had some kind of background and *poof* didn't just become the new hellspawn (maybe). What's his past and connections to the "boss"?

There were 5 variants? That is sickening. LOL.

The rumor is there are FIVE VARIANTS - we have only seen proof of FOUR although Todd did hold up the fifth in a video interview. It has to be like less than 100 printed rare though.

I am holding judgement until there is more to base my opinion. One issue does not make or ruin a series. I did like the art a lot personally though :tongue:

[Greg Anderson]

Just reminding that the monthly Hine read this month is once again Spawn, it has been extended for another month due to a bit of lack of activity and busy-ness from reality, etc. So yes, c'mon, join me in Spawn discussion of Hine's run over at his forum! :smile:

http://www.imagecomics.com/messageboard/viewtopic.php?t=43442

[michaeljsmith]

Just reminding that the monthly Hine read this month is once again Spawn, it has been extended for another month due to a bit of lack of activity and busy-ness from reality, etc. So yes, c'mon, join me in Spawn discussion of Hine's run over at his forum! :smile:

http://www.imagecomics.com/messageboard/viewtopic.php?t=43442

I so want to do this but have been unreal busy. We all know that Hine's run turned the world of Spawn around 8 different ways and made it all make sense.

[pressdarlings]

I want to start from the top but avoid all the mediocre stuff and pick up again for the Armageddon arc (which issue numbers are those?).

[Greg Anderson]

I want to start from the top but avoid all the mediocre stuff and pick up again for the Armageddon arc (which issue numbers are those?).

#150-#164 are the Armageddon issues.

[pressdarlings]

#150-#164 are the Armageddon issues.

When do the stories lose their kick? Is it after MacFarlane's run or?

[Greg Anderson]

When do the stories lose their kick? Is it after MacFarlane's run or?

What, you mean before the Hine run? I honestly can't really say because everyone has their own opinions. Some people feel after 100, some people feel it was WAY before that. I myself have been reading regularly since the 80s (on and off)
and regularly after 100. Tried to catch up with some of the back issues. I tried to re-read 100-149 recently and I just couldn't get into it. I didn't see why I loved it so much back when they were coming out. The Hine run has been too darn great of a read.

[michaeljsmith]

Still angery about the variant covers :evilangry:

...OK, now I am over it - no I am not!!

[Greg Anderson]

Come one, Stingerman, bushboy, and others! Come over to the Hine boards and discuss his run! Read! Whatev! Just come! Or I'll knock out Brikhed's knee caps! :mad:

[bushboy]

Come one, Stingerman, bushboy, and others! Come over to the Hine boards and discuss his run! Read! Whatev! Just come! Or I'll knock out Brikhed's knee caps! :mad:

I really do need to visit the Image boards more often. Don't know why I don't O.o

[Greg Anderson]

I really do need to visit the Image boards more often. Don't know why I don't O.o

It's okay. I'm here to make things right. Go on. Open up a new tab... type it... yes: imagecomics.com/messageboards... and then scroll down to David hine's forum and let us discuss his great run. All the while pick up your trade and have at it. :evilsmile:

[michaeljsmith]

Break my knee caps - I'm already dead. Check Proof #13 if you don't believe me.

[bushboy]

Break my knee caps - I'm already dead. Check Proof #13 if you don't believe me.

:eek: I knew there was something I forgot to pick up last time I was at the LCS.

[michaeljsmith]

We have seen what happened in #185 but what comes next? Everything has changed...

Spawn #186
story TODD McFARLANE & BRIAN HOLGUIN
art & cover WHILCE PORTACIO & TODD McFARLANE

Last issue, everything changed! The world of SPAWN was rocked by the most stunning moment in the series' sixteen year history. And now, the mystery deepens... Sides are chosen and secrets are revealed? Experience SPAWN's bold new direction with the all-star creative team of TODD McFARLANE, WHILCE PORTACIO and BRIAN HOLGUIN.

NOVEMBER 26 * 32 PAGES * FC * $2.95

http://heavyink.com/images/covers/SEP08/MSEP082220.JPG

...and check out this FOUR PAGE PREVIEW (http://www.newsarama.com/php/multimedia/album.php?aid=24177)

[DeathSentence]

Is there 4 variants for #186 too? That is just disgusting to have 4. I only bought 1 of them but still.

[michaeljsmith]

Is there 4 variants for #186 too? That is just disgusting to have 4. I only bought 1 of them but still.

...it was 5 variants for issue #185. They are typically selling as a complete collection for $300 plus on eBay

[bookguy]

I liked the Endgame ads that ran from SPAWN # 180-184.

However, I get the feeling that Spawn # 185-200 is more like Cerebus #200 (and the storyline building up to).

I hope that this will bring the series to an definitive conclusion.

Or at the so very least, tie up all or most of the sub-plots since # 1.

[michaeljsmith]

The loose threads will be there for a while. I doubt that a lot of those ends are tied up anytime soon.

[flashdisk]

What, you mean before the Hine run? I honestly can't really say because everyone has their own opinions. Some people feel after 100, some people feel it was WAY before that. I myself have been reading regularly since the 80s (on and off)
and regularly after 100. Tried to catch up with some of the back issues. I tried to re-read 100-149 recently and I just couldn't get into it. I didn't see why I loved it so much back when they were coming out. The Hine run has been too darn great of a read.

In my opinion, the reason why Spawn so intresting in the beginning was its originality. It had gritty feel, and its hero was not only was not only one of the few interesting african american heroes of that time, but he was he was the strangest and most remarkable heroes; both disfigured and lived in the streets. A polar opposite to the current hero titles such as superman, spider-man and batman. Spawn's storylines could be as dirty and gritty as can be. These made the comic identifiable.

I believe the reason Spawn hasn't been able to gain it second wind is that the strange has already become the norm. Heroes and anti heroes, just like Spawn have already become rampant in stories. The comic books have become more gritty, more dirty and at times quite close to real life.

So what now can separate Spawn from the rest?

[michaeljsmith]

Spawn #186 - Spoilers Included


First, I went to 3 shops and could not find the reprint of #185 so I am very curious to see the full Image. I am hoping that one turns up somewhere in the near future.

#186 - I feel like the story has continued to move forward but the art felt a little less than what it was last issue. There appear to be a ton of players in the mix right now from Sara the nurse to the man in the coffee shop hiring hitmen. Tom has a vision of himself as Spawn and doesn't admit it to the doctors. New detectives appear on the scene to understand why the lawyer killed himself last issue (would like to see a Sam or Twitch sighting when it comes to police work) and we finally get the one thing that I felt was truly missing as of late in Spawn.... an ANGEL sighting.

All of this circling around our boy Jim Downing until the last page and all I want to know is who the heck is that?

Nice continuation of the ENDGAME saga - how many issues will be in the first story arc?

[DeathSentence]

Its too bad anout the sales of the book. Spawn showed some promise. 26 000 issues estimated is not a lot but i hope they continue the story because i am intrigued. But i gotta admit, i am finding it hard for a new reader such as myself to fit in with this "reboot".

[stingerman]

Its too bad anout the sales of the book. Spawn showed some promise. 26 000 issues estimated is not a lot but i hope they continue the story because i am intrigued. But i gotta admit, i am finding it hard for a new reader such as myself to fit in with this "reboot".

26 thou? That's it? Wow.

Anyway, I thought these issues were really good and I like the direction they are going. The Violator was pretty cool and I was always a big fan. I see they are going away from the clown angle by the looks of it, which is ok, as he is a demon or whatever. They did a nice jog explaining it, too.

I hope some questions are answered next issue.

[DeathSentence]

26 thou? That's it? Wow.

Anyway, I thought these issues were really good and I like the direction they are going. The Violator was pretty cool and I was always a big fan. I see they are going away from the clown angle by the looks of it, which is ok, as he is a demon or whatever. They did a nice jog explaining it, too.

I hope some questions are answered next issue.

Yea here is the estimated sales for the month of october:

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=18907

Didnt do as well as i thought. Scroll down to # 104 in the top comics.

[michaeljsmith]

The sad part about the numbers were that there were 5 different covers. I have come to accept that Spawn is always going to be about #100 on the charts and that is OK by me. The Walking Dead and Invincible are both in that neighborhood and nobody makes a huge deal about it. This book has been around 186 issues. Unless you are Marvel or DC mainstream characters it is hard to hold out that long.

[stingerman]

The sad part about the numbers were that there were 5 different covers. I have come to accept that Spawn is always going to be about #100 on the charts and that is OK by me. The Walking Dead and Invincible are both in that neighborhood and nobody makes a huge deal about it. This book has been around 186 issues. Unless you are Marvel or DC mainstream characters it is hard to hold out that long.

I wonder if those numbers are correct. 5 covers and that's all they sold?

All that hype etc, they axe Hine and get not even ten thousand more out of it?

I thought I heard somewhere issue one was sold out? They only made that many?

[DeathSentence]

I heard that too. Thy are just estimations and they cant be that accurate. So who knows...

[michaeljsmith]

So Todd says that Patient 47 has appeared in Spawn before - any guesses who he is? :evilsmile:

[flashdisk]

So Todd says that Patient 47 has appeared in Spawn before - any guesses who he is? :evilsmile:

The guy Al pretended to be when he came for Angela's trial. The one who someone said looked like hydroman. :)

Just a shot in the dark.

[bushboy]

Finally got my copy of #186. Can't wait for the newbie's first fight.

[michaeljsmith]

The guy Al pretended to be when he came for Angela's trial. The one who someone said looked like hydroman. :)

Just a shot in the dark.

I'm hoping it is somebody significant. My first thought when I thought about it and he yelled "son" the first thoughts I had were (1) the dad who beat his kids and Spawn took care of, and (2) Christopher's dad...although I don't remember seeing him and his mom even talked about him not being around.

This is one of those things that makes you start guessing the craziest ideas.

[bushboy]

(2) Christopher's dad...although I don't remember seeing him and his mom even talked about him not being around.


That would be kinda cool.

[vickvega]

Ive never read Spawn before, except when it first came out as a kid. The Todd McFarlane cover really caught my eye and I bought the #185 issue. I really like the darkness of Portacio's art and the story got me curious. I got #186 and im excited for the next issue. I dont understand everything thats going on, but i will stick with it until the end of this story arc to see how good or bad it will be. Image comics is becoming my favorite publisher. All of the most famous characters are worn out to me or stuck in continuity issues. Images newer characters seem more accessible to me because they're not 500+ issues deep.

[michaeljsmith]

Ive never read Spawn before, except when it first came out as a kid. The Todd McFarlane cover really caught my eye and I bought the #185 issue. I really like the darkness of Portacio's art and the story got me curious. I got #186 and im excited for the next issue. I dont understand everything thats going on, but i will stick with it until the end of this story arc to see how good or bad it will be.

If it helps we are all a little confused (in a good way) with what is going on right now and that is coming from a person that has been with the book since day one. Spawn is changing and that is a fun thing and a good time to jump on board with the book.

Image comics is becoming my favorite publisher. All of the most famous characters are worn out to me or stuck in continuity issues. Images newer characters seem more accessible to me because they're not 500+ issues deep.

Image is without question my favorite publisher right now. The biggest difference I see is that the things that happen to the characters have impact and effect. One of the best characters ever in Spawn was Angela - she died in issue #100 and she ain't coming back. In Marvel/DC world a new writer would bring her back (i.e. Jason Todd effect). I have at least 10 Image books on my pull list. Proof, The Walking Dead, Spawn, Invincible, Golly!, Dynamo 5, Firebreather, Noble Causes, Astounding Wolf-Man, and the list continues :biggrin:

[SParsons]

I love Spawn

[stingerman]

So Todd says that Patient 47 has appeared in Spawn before - any guesses who he is? :evilsmile:

Hmmm...I am thinking someone early on in the series, perhaps.

I would have to look through those issues.

[Greg Anderson]

I can't seem to think of anyone. I'm leaning more towards the guy who Al used to transform into in the beginning of the series.

[Greg Anderson]

Since Hine's been getting a bigger fan-base due to his work on Spawn, I thought it'd be kool to get his new followers into his other awesome work! Over at his forum, we're running a monthly reading/discussion thread where each month we focus on a different book of Hine, this month being his first Marvel work, District X! So come on over and let's have a kool aid ol' time!

http://www.imagecomics.com/messageboard/viewtopic.php?t=42815

This month's read is District X, vol. 2! Come on by!

http://www.imagecomics.com/messageboard/viewtopic.php?t=44068

[michaeljsmith]

I love Spawn

I'm sure he loves you too :). Seriously though it is a book that is easy to enjoy.

[bushboy]

This month's read is District X, vol. 2! Come on by!

http://www.imagecomics.com/messageboard/viewtopic.php?t=44068

I think District X was the first Hine I ever read. Need to track down a copy...

[stingerman]

I can't seem to think of anyone. I'm leaning more towards the guy who Al used to transform into in the beginning of the series.

Right that white guy. Anybody got a pic handy?

[michaeljsmith]

Right that white guy. Anybody got a pic handy?

They were posting it on Spawn.com but I am too lazy to go find it :redface:

[stingerman]

They were posting it on Spawn.com but I am too lazy to go find it :redface:

From A Spawn Respect Thread (http://lounge.moviecodec.com/topics/53871p1.html)

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/9447/26jo.th.jpg

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/2300/32bt.th.jpg

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/3687/spawn03112op.th.jpg

[michaeljsmith]

Darn you Stinger, you make me look even lazier than I really am. Kiddingf!

Great job!

[stingerman]

Darn you Stinger, you make me look even lazier than I really am. Kiddingf!

Great job!

Hey, I could have blown up the pics and then put them on, but guess what?

I was being lazy. :biggrin:

[michaeljsmith]

Hey, I could have blown up the pics and then put them on, but guess what?

I was being lazy. :biggrin:

That was pretty cheap of you - I have come to expect so much more. For the record though Greg is smoking crack, this is NOT Patient 47. :evilsmile:

[Greg Anderson]

That was pretty cheap of you - I have come to expect so much more. For the record though Greg is smoking crack, this is NOT Patient 47. :evilsmile:

Crack crack! :biggrin:

[michaeljsmith]

I really have not seen too many "wow" guesses as for the identity for Patient 47 :confused:

[stingerman]

That was pretty cheap of you - I have come to expect so much more. For the record though Greg is smoking crack, this is NOT Patient 47. :evilsmile:

LOL!

You sure? Wasn't the white guy he came back as a burn victim or something? Fits in with the hospital thing.

[bushboy]

LOL!

You sure? Wasn't the white guy he came back as a burn victim or something? Fits in with the hospital thing.

I thought it was just an illusion. The whole burnt thing was Al himself. Maybe it's someone from the Alley

[michaeljsmith]

Good day everyone, I was once a Spawn comics lover and I just want to ask what is the latest issue of Spawn comics. It has been 8 years since I last read one.

186 is the latest issue but if you are looking to jump on as a new reader 185 is the perfect point. It is a new starting point for Spawn.

[stingerman]

I thought it was just an illusion. The whole burnt thing was Al himself. Maybe it's someone from the Alley

Well, for Al it was an illusion but that doesn't mean the guy didn't exist somewhere.

[michaeljsmith]

Reading some of the early issues, I personally think of much of those story lines as an illusion.

[Greg Anderson]

I started a new thread over at Hine's forum to discuss aspects of Spawn in relation to its uses of Christianity and other religions. Come on by!

http://imagecomics.com/messageboard/viewtopic.php?t=44129

[michaeljsmith]

I started a new thread over at Hine's forum to discuss aspects of Spawn in relation to its uses of Christianity and other religions. Come on by!

http://imagecomics.com/messageboard/viewtopic.php?t=44129

Sure as soon as you can get my account re-activated :evilangry:

[Greg Anderson]

Sure as soon as you can get my account re-activated :evilangry:

Yeah, I'm missing you over there, dude. :frown:

Plus, some things I think I'd find interesting from you pov on this topic and all.

[michaeljsmith]

Yeah, I'm missing you over there, dude. :frown:

Plus, some things I think I'd find interesting from you pov on this topic and all.

Heck if I knew who to contact I would try to get my account fixed. I would prefer not to have to sign up all over again and start from scratch but I might have to do that. I would prefer to figure out who the ADMINISTRATOR is and have them reset my password and/or e-mail address for my BrikHed21 account. :mad:

[michaeljsmith]

I'm struggling to think how this new direction is going to work without AL - is it just me?

[Greg Anderson]

I'm struggling to think how this new direction is going to work without AL - is it just me?

I try not to think about it.

[michaeljsmith]

That is one approach - not necessarily the practical one but it is one way to look at it. I know it is early in the ENDGAME to base judgment, so I am keeping an open mind, but I just question how things will end up. :frown:

[Greg Anderson]

Oh, I've been keeping an open mind also, it's just that thus far I haven't been too interested. Nothing is intriguing but the art. And I feel the stories are moving slow already. It's just the way MacFarlane and Holguin writes. If you've noticed, the writing style already matches how it was being written before Hine came on board. I'm just hoping things pick up next issue.

[michaeljsmith]

I'm finding myself a little bummed right now that is for sure. I wonder how long this first story arc is expected to last?

[stingerman]

I am kinda digging it. Though I don't really think its the Spawn part that has me intrigued - I think its the Violator part.

[michaeljsmith]

I am kinda digging it. Though I don't really think its the Spawn part that has me intrigued - I think its the Violator part.

This is starting to smell a little like Quasar all over again :(

[michaeljsmith]

Coming out next week will be Spawn #187 and the second print for Spawn #186:

SPAWN
MONTHLY SERIES
ISSUE 187 | DECEMBER 2008
http://www.spawn.com/comics/images/tab_comics_header_credits.gif
STORY Brian Holguin, Todd McFarlane
LETTERS Tom Orzechowski
COVER Whilce Portacio
COLORS Jin Han
INKS Todd McFarlane
PENCILS Whilce Portacio

http://www.spawn.com/comics/images/tab_comics_header_summary.gif
The Endgame continues. The world of Spawn is still recoilling from the stunning revelations of issue 185. As word of the game changing events echo from the rafters of Heaven to the depths of Hell, players begin to study the board, plot their strategies and make their move.

http://www.spawn.com/comics/Spawn/monthly/images/spawn_comic_cover_187_cl.jpg

[stingerman]

This is starting to smell a little like Quasar all over again :(

LOL! Well it already reaks of One More Day! ... Or Captain America, or Hulk, or Dr. Strange, or Black Panther, ...

[michaeljsmith]

LOL! Well it already reaks of One More Day! ... Or Captain America, or Hulk, or Dr. Strange, or Black Panther, ...

Calm down Marvel boy - calm down :biggrin:

[Greg Anderson]

Spawn: Book of the Dead!

I bought mine yesterday. I wasn't planning on buying it, was hoping to wait later one but this was the last copy left and since I had a bit of cash, I thought, "Why not?"

Darn good read! I enjoyed it a lot. I loved a lot of the info on each page focusing on a different subject matter and just how vast the story of Spawn and Al Simmons is. Loved the stuff on Mammon and the past Hellspawns. Loved the Angela section. We didn't get anything on the second Redeemer though. Man, I was also itching for some stuff after issue 100! Darn it! Also, I was wondering how come it wasn't mentioned that Mammon helped crafted Al into a Hellspawn especially with the mention of Mammon meeting Al's great grandfather and Ol Job, but I suppose that's best saved for next volume with the story lines connecting to Marona.

I hope they release volume 2 ASAP!!!

[xarathos]

Give McFarlane some credit. It can't be nearly as bad as One More Day.:smile:

[vickvega]

Im enjoying this new story arc quite a bit. I love the Darkness and the mood of the comic, plus I love the quality of the actual floppy. The book just seems to be a higher quality comic with better paper and inking than a Marvel/DC would have for 2.99

[michaeljsmith]

Im enjoying this new story arc quite a bit. I love the Darkness and the mood of the comic, plus I love the quality of the actual floppy. The book just seems to be a higher quality comic with better paper and inking than a Marvel/DC would have for 2.99

TMP has always had quality for the money and he is $0.04 cheaper at $2.95 :wink:

[Greg Anderson]

It pains me to say this but I just may be dropping the book.

[michaeljsmith]

It pains me to say this but I just may be dropping the book.

Don't you think you should get through the first story arc? :eek:

[michaeljsmith]

Spawn #187 - Spoilers Included


Ummm, I am still not sure. That is the best way to talk about this book. The new direction of Spawn is still a work in progress and I am still not over the fact that Al Simmons is gone forever - but I just don't know. There is a real coolness factor to the book and the direction it is going. The mercenary that was hired to kill Patient 47, I will eventually start calling him by his name, was pretty sweet but I am concerned about his "latent like me" comment. The art was decent enough, you know what you are getting with Whilce Portacio, and I thought it was cool to see the three reporters back on TV like the old days but I am still not sure about the direction. All of the sudden Spawn has become the Incredible Hulk and he changes back and forth and doesn't know why or how and what happened. Obviously I have been with the book for 187 issues I am not going anywhere anytime soon but the jury is still out to this point.

I am not sure how long ENDGAME is scheduled to run but I am eager to see what happens next.

[Greg Anderson]

Don't you think you should get through the first story arc? :eek:

We'll see, my good brutha. It's just a plan, though. I'm going back and forth debating if I should keep going with the book or not. I gave it a chance and I'm not enjoying it. Usually if I don't like one issue of a book, I'm done with it. I gave this book 3 issues due to it originally being my favorite series for years, I just dunno anymore. I'll give it a bit more time, I guess.

[michaeljsmith]

Understood - times are tough and money it tight so sometimes you cannot give a book a long hard look. I am still here for a while. I will play out at least the first story arc and maybe the second before making a decision. I liked some of the old time stuff with the news anchors and such and I am intrigued to see who put Sarah asleep and what the deal with this mercenary is really about.

I am intrigued but a little disappointed for sure :frown:

[Greg Anderson]

Understood - times are tough and money it tight so sometimes you cannot give a book a long hard look. I am still here for a while. I will play out at least the first story arc and maybe the second before making a decision. I liked some of the old time stuff with the news anchors and such and I am intrigued to see who put Sarah asleep and what the deal with this mercenary is really about.

I am intrigued but a little disappointed for sure :frown:

See, I wish I was at least intrigued. But I'm not. There's not one thing that fascinates me. I dunno. I'll read the last three issues together and see how I feel.

[michaeljsmith]

See, I wish I was at least intrigued. But I'm not. There's not one thing that fascinates me. I dunno. I'll read the last three issues together and see how I feel.

The mercenary and why they want him dead? The fact that he is the Incredible Hulk now and changes back and forth? I don't know there is something to all of this.... I am not saying it will be great but it could be really good.... ok maybe just good :biggrin:

[Greg Anderson]

The mercenary and why they want him dead? The fact that he is the Incredible Hulk now and changes back and forth? I don't know there is something to all of this.... I am not saying it will be great but it could be really good.... ok maybe just good :biggrin:

There's no excitement to it for me anymore. It's missing that sex the book used to have. I know some of that stuff should be interesting and keep us on edge, but there's sadly nothing, I think I'm still bitter over the creative change and Al's death. I dunno.

[michaeljsmith]

Letter to Todd - Greg needs more "sex" in the book :biggrin:

[Greg Anderson]

Ha! :biggrin:

[michaeljsmith]

I can e-mail that picture of Wanda riding the Terry "Action" Fitzgerald "Express" from issue #183 if you want :tongue:

[Greg Anderson]

I can e-mail that picture of Wanda riding the Terry "Action" Fitzgerald "Express" from issue #183 if you want :tongue:

Haha! Yes, that was a funny moment. Al had to come and cock-block, of course. Calling his wife a whore. Sheesh, Al. Man.. I miss Al. :frown:

[michaeljsmith]

Haha! Yes, that was a funny moment. Al had to come and cock-block, of course. Calling his wife a whore. Sheesh, Al. Man.. I miss Al. :frown:

Sorry to bring up tough memories for you but I agree. I respected Al Simmons, I knew Al Simmons, and Patient 47 you are NO Al Simmons. :tongue:

[Greg Anderson]

Sorry to bring up tough memories for you but I agree. I respected Al Simmons, I knew Al Simmons, and Patient 47 you are NO Al Simmons. :tongue:

Who the hell does he think he is anyway? Plus, he's suppose to be embracing his powers? Bitch, accept your powers after Al finished clearing out his loose ends. What he think this is, a sit-com? :mad:

[NickGuy]

*cue laugh track*

[Greg Anderson]

*cue laugh track*

Sorry, too much Blade quotes on my mind lately. :redface:

[michaeljsmith]

Who the hell does he think he is anyway? Plus, he's suppose to be embracing his powers? Bitch, accept your powers after Al finished clearing out his loose ends. What he think this is, a sit-com? :mad:

So you are on for the rest of this story arc then huh :rolleyes:

[Greg Anderson]

So you are on for the rest of this story arc then huh :rolleyes:

We'll see. I re-read the last three issues and still wasn't too into it.

[michaeljsmith]

Getting dizzy, talking in circles :eek:

[Greg Anderson]

Or deja vu!

[michaeljsmith]

I am hoping the LCS has BOOK OF THE DEAD when I check in today or I fear I might just be out of luck on that one :evilangry:

[Gavin Higginbotham, BotF]

We'll see. I re-read the last three issues and still wasn't too into it.

I've not even read any of the new run yet, so I guess that's not exactly a glowing endorsement. I've flicked through the pages and the art's entertaining enough but I don't know that I care enough to read about a new Spawn. We'll see.

[michaeljsmith]

I've not even read any of the new run yet, so I guess that's not exactly a glowing endorsement. I've flicked through the pages and the art's entertaining enough but I don't know that I care enough to read about a new Spawn. We'll see.

I must now stick my foot upside your head... especially after I just said something nice about you in another thread :biggrin:. I can understand it isn't for everyone. I just gave Savage Dragon a seven issue tryout and it just didn't do it for me (then again I am tired of Obama being on half of the covers).

[Gavin Higginbotham, BotF]

I must now stick my foot upside your head... especially after I just said something nice about you in another thread :biggrin:. I can understand it isn't for everyone. I just gave Savage Dragon a seven issue tryout and it just didn't do it for me (then again I am tired of Obama being on half of the covers).

He's been on two alternate covers out of 8 issues, but yeah, I get your point. No other guest has had that much exposure in so short a time.

And I love Spawn. I'll continue to buy any new collection that comes out and am going to stick with the regular series for at least the first year of the new creative team. I guess I just loved the previous run more than I thought and it's probably me sulking that it's changed. Once I read a good stack of this current run, I'll probably get more enthusiastic.

[michaeljsmith]

Yes we all miss the Hine/Hablerin run - that is my #1 bad moment of 2008 in the Proof thread... stop in and give us your opinions, and Image Fans are welcome you know :biggrin:

http://www.imagecomics.com/messageboard/viewtopic.php?t=44373

[Greg Anderson]

Do check out the current run, Gavin. Don't let my dislike for it discourage you. You may very well enjoy it. Brikhed not being into Savage Dragon on the other hand is crazy.

[Gavin Higginbotham, BotF]

Do check out the current run, Gavin. Don't let my dislike for it discourage you. You may very well enjoy it. Brikhed not being into Savage Dragon on the other hand is crazy.

As I said, I'll get around to it eventually. I like the Spawn mythos too much to dismiss it out of hand. And, of course, I agree with you about Brikhed and SD. Still, at least he's given it a go.

[Greg Anderson]

I am hoping the LCS has BOOK OF THE DEAD when I check in today or I fear I might just be out of luck on that one :evilangry:

Hopefully you pick it up. It was a lot of fun reading through, and nice art. Loved the parts on Angela, Mammon, and Ol' Job. And the smell is addicting. :biggrin:

[Greg Anderson]

As I said, I'll get around to it eventually. I like the Spawn mythos too much to dismiss it out of hand. And, of course, I agree with you about Brikhed and SD. Still, at least he's given it a go.

Definitely. I sadly had to drop Invincible. Great book but I was very lost, so I'll pick it up in trades. But in no way am I missing #60 with the Image crossover! :cool:

[Gavin Higginbotham, BotF]

Definitely. I sadly had to drop Invincible. Great book but I was very lost, so I'll pick it up in trades. But in no way am I missing #60 with the Image crossover! :cool:

Yep, that bad boy looks beyond awesome. Invincible is great but I can see why you could get lost in it. It's like Savage Dragon was like in the old days when a dozen plots would run in each issue but not necessarily the same plots in each consecutive issue. Crazy!... but that's why I love them both.

[Greg Anderson]

Yep, that bad boy looks beyond awesome. Invincible is great but I can see why you could get lost in it. It's like Savage Dragon was like in the old days when a dozen plots would run in each issue but not necessarily the same plots in each consecutive issue. Crazy!... but that's why I love them both.

The stuff with She-Dragon still haven't been brought back, her and the kidnapping and the water causing mutations! :eek:

[michaeljsmith]

Hopefully you pick it up. It was a lot of fun reading through, and nice art. Loved the parts on Angela, Mammon, and Ol' Job. And the smell is addicting. :biggrin:

Amazon is still showing it as a pre-order but I do not know if they are really getting any or not so it will be interesting to see if I find a copy, it looks amazing though



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[Greg Anderson]

Hine read this month is Son of M! C'mon by! :smile:

[michaeljsmith]

Jin Han is out? Interesting shake-up only three issues into the NEW Spawn :confused:

[Greg Anderson]

Whoa, what?! :eek:

[bushboy]

WTF? What happened? Just starting to like the guy, too.

[stingerman]

Jin Han is out? Interesting shake-up only three issues into the NEW Spawn :confused:

They should have learned their lesson from Brand New Dollar. :evilsmile:

[michaeljsmith]

I don't know what happened - Jin Han posted it himself on Spawn.com boards... weird if you ask me. Not a great start to the new run :mad:

[Ullar]

I want to start reading Spawn but I don't want to have to read 100 plus back issues. What would be a good jumping on point?

[michaeljsmith]

I want to start reading Spawn but I don't want to have to read 100 plus back issues. What would be a good jumping on point?

#185 is a launching point for the new direction of Spawn. You might be a little lost in the beginning, but I have been reading since day one and I was a little lost.


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[Greg Anderson]

I want to start reading Spawn but I don't want to have to read 100 plus back issues. What would be a good jumping on point?

I'll sound like a broken record but if the recent issues don't pull you, you can pick up the Armageddon trades and/or The New Flesh Collection with David Hine on writing who was fantastic on the book. Lots of people consider it probably the best run on the title.

[Ullar]

Thanks for the suggestions. I'll check out 185 and the Hine trades.

[michaeljsmith]

I'll sound like a broken record but if the recent issues don't pull you, you can pick up the Armageddon trades and/or The New Flesh Collection with David Hine on writing who was fantastic on the book. Lots of people consider it probably the best run on the title.

I would agree that is the best run on the book but as for a good start place now #185 is the place to be :tongue: (and for the record Spawn is only on #187 right now so it is only a few issues to hunt down, Greg might give you his :eek: )

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[Ullar]

Thanks. Is there anything I need to know about Spawn before I read #185?

[michaeljsmith]

Thanks. Is there anything I need to know about Spawn before I read #185?

Not really - there is always a summary on the inside of the front cover that updates all events to this point. I would just say after you give it a read or two feel free to come on back and ask questions. I don't want to spoil anything for you right now :wink:

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[Ullar]

Will do.
...........................................

[stingerman]

WTF? What happened? Just starting to like the guy, too.

How long before McFarlane bails again?

I'll give him 10 issues.

[michaeljsmith]

How long before McFarlane bails again?

I'll give him 10 issues.

I think he will be around but I have a feeling Whilce won't last :mad:

[michaeljsmith]

Some behind the scenes stuff from Spawn 187 looking at the process from pencils, through inks and then color.

http://board.spawn.com/images/board/187_BehindTheScenes.jpg

[michaeljsmith]

Double post

[MartinRedmond]

I'm embarassed to admit I enjoy this book right now. At first I thought it would just be a brightness contrast job but noticed all the detail done with a Pshop brush. Todd does great looking stuff even with the lousy Photoshop brushes. I guess he can ink no matter what he uses. Arrrgghhh!!!

[MartinRedmond]

Thanks. Is there anything I need to know about Spawn before I read #185?

That's where I jumped in and I've had no problem.

[michaeljsmith]

I'm embarassed to admit I enjoy this book right now. At first I thought it would just be a brightness contrast job but noticed all the detail done with a Pshop brush. Todd does great looking stuff even with the lousy Photoshop brushes. I guess he can ink no matter what he uses. Arrrgghhh!!!

Don't be embarrassed - enjoy away. It is just hard to come off the run of David Hine's writing and the direction and stop and start again in a new direction. I know 99% of all comics do this but this is the first time Spawn has been quiet this dramatic of a shift. Old timers are just grumpy (yes you Greg).

I am glad more people are giving it a chance

[MartinRedmond]

Why? It's not like you've got anything to gain from it. I think it's enjoyable but the pacing is a little too slow.

[bushboy]

I think he will be around but I have a feeling Whilce won't last :mad:

Which is sad since this is when I first started liking his art.

[michaeljsmith]

Which is sad since this is when I first started liking his art.

It just a guess - I am curious to see who they get on colors now that Jin Han is gone (and according to Jin Han he left on his own... should have posted something about that).

[Greg Anderson]

Spawn #188 comes out next week.

http://www.spawn.com/comics/Spawn/monthly/images/spawn_comic_cover_188_cl.jpg

Over the past several issues, Spawn has experienced the most dramatic series of twists in its long history. Events that have rocked the status quo and echoed from the heights of Heaven to the pit of Hell. But what does it all mean? A young reporter following an obscure lead thinks he's stumbled upon the answer. As incredible as his suspicions may be, the truth is something far beyond his imagination.

[michaeljsmith]

Spawn #188 - Spoilers Included



So I just finished issue #188 and it read a lot better than some of the previous issues, and I am sure some of that has to do with story coming into focus. I know it is hard to start from scratch but to think the opening arc for the new Spawn is 6 issues might have been asking too much of the readers for patience and too hard for Team Spawn to pull off. For the most part when I put down a current issue I am thinking "what the heck did I just read". If this would have been a new series I picked up I would not be moving forward with the finish of this arc. Spawn has bought some credibility and staying power that I will give you the benefit of the doubt.

There are a lot of stories building and I am hopeful but I am also hoping that at the conclusion of ENDGAME I will have a freaking clue as to the direction of Spawn. I am not a fan of the Incredible Spawn (aka changing like the Hulk) but I was hopeful with the Power Meter at the end of this issue.

The art continues to be a concern and just isn't knocking it out of the park like I would have hoped. I would be pleased though is Jay Fotos is the new PERMANENT color guy for the book. That would give me a lot of hope.

Undecided but sticking around for a while.

[DeathSentence]

Spawn #188 - Spoilers Included



So I just finished issue #188 and it read a lot better than some of the previous issues, and I am sure some of that has to do with story coming into focus. I know it is hard to start from scratch but to think the opening arc for the new Spawn is 6 issues might have been asking too much of the readers for patience and too hard for Team Spawn to pull off. For the most part when I put down a current issue I am thinking "what the heck did I just read". If this would have been a new series I picked up I would not be moving forward with the finish of this arc. Spawn has bought some credibility and staying power that I will give you the benefit of the doubt.

There are a lot of stories building and I am hopeful but I am also hoping that at the conclusion of ENDGAME I will have a freaking clue as to the direction of Spawn. I am not a fan of the Incredible Spawn (aka changing like the Hulk) but I was hopeful with the Power Meter at the end of this issue.

The art continues to be a concern and just isn't knocking it out of the park like I would have hoped. I would be pleased though is Jay Fotos is the new PERMANENT color guy for the book. That would give me a lot of hope.

Undecided but sticking around for a while.

Yea I am with you on the story. It is enjoyable just a little slow, and i am a new reader soi am wondering where the story is going. Completely bewildered there, especially with the clown killing that guy...

[stingerman]

Saw this on the rack, and passed...:frown: Decided to pick up something else instead.

[Greg Anderson]

Saw this on the rack, and passed...:frown: Decided to pick up something else instead.

LOL!

I'm sorry but that seriously made me laugh out loud. :redface:

[NickGuy]

I really like the art of the new issues, but Oddly enough its the story thats making me mad. this is a whole new kind of decompressed story for todd, he is taking even longer than usual to get to the point. this would work if it were a movie and I have a feeling it will work if its ever collected in a TPB, but at the moment, as single issues, its dragging a bit too much.

[MartinRedmond]

The art is terrific!

[stingerman]

December 2008 Sales - Source (http://www.comichron.com/monthlycomicssales/2008/2008-12.html)

Spawn #187 $2.95 Image 22,140

Bring Back Hine. :smile:

[DeathSentence]

December 2008 Sales - Source (http://www.comichron.com/monthlycomicssales/2008/2008-12.html)

Spawn #187 $2.95 Image 22,140

Bring Back Hine. :smile:

Im one of the new readers, but I think I will drop this book if they bring back an old writer and Al Simmons.

[Greg Anderson]

Im one of the new readers, but I think I will drop this book if they bring back an old writer and Al Simmons.

They already brought back two old writers (Holguin and McFarlane himself). And Al Simmon's story wasn't completed.

[stingerman]

Im one of the new readers, but I think I will drop this book if they bring back an old writer and Al Simmons.

The numbers are going back to the way they were before Spawn:One More Day, anyway, so big deal :smile:

http://www.bringbackwendell.com/spawnomd.jpg

[Greg Anderson]

http://board.spawn.com/images/board/McFar_SpawnAOF_previews_cov.jpg

[NeoStar9X]

Has Spawn been collected in trades? How about issues from the very beginning?

I was always interested in the character but was never into comics back when Spawn was all the rage (that and no way my parents would have ever let me buy something like that at the age I was at the time). However I did enjoy the movie and the animated show that was on HBO I believe. More then anything I found the whole idea of the character fastinating. Also that Spawn, as a human was African American. Being young at the time that was one of the main things that attracted to me since I didn't know of many comic styled "heroes" with my skin color.

[GRANT!]

Has Spawn been collected in trades? How about issues from the very beginning?

I was always interested in the character but was never into comics back when Spawn was all the rage (that and no way my parents would have ever let me buy something like that at the age I was at the time). However I did enjoy the movie and the animated show that was on HBO I believe. More then anything I found the whole idea of the character fastinating. Also that Spawn, as a human was African American. Being young at the time that was one of the main things that attracted to me since I didn't know of many comic styled "heroes" with my skin color.

There's 6 large size volumes collecting the first 100 or so issues of the series. I know issues 9 and 10 haven't been collected for various reasons.

And a few trades collecting post 150.

[Gavin Higginbotham, BotF]

Just a heads up, but Spawn guest stars in SAVAGE DRAGON#144. Enjoy Al Simmons in action a couple more times here before we see his headless corpse! Good stuff.

[Greg Anderson]

Has Spawn been collected in trades? How about issues from the very beginning?

I was always interested in the character but was never into comics back when Spawn was all the rage (that and no way my parents would have ever let me buy something like that at the age I was at the time). However I did enjoy the movie and the animated show that was on HBO I believe. More then anything I found the whole idea of the character fastinating. Also that Spawn, as a human was African American. Being young at the time that was one of the main things that attracted to me since I didn't know of many comic styled "heroes" with my skin color.

Hey, man. Good to have you around. Here's a list of the trades you can pick up

* Spawn Collection Volume 1 - contains issues 1-8, 11-12
* Spawn Collection Volume 2 - contains issues 13-33
* Spawn Collection Volume 3 - contains issues 34-54
* Spawn Collection Volume 4 - contains issues 55-75
* Spawn Collection Volume 5 - contains issues 76-95
* Spawn Collection Volume 6 - contains issues 96-116

After that we have the Armageddon arc which if you want you can just off from there and so on...

* Spawn: The Armageddon Collection Part 1 - contains issues 150-155
* Spawn: The Armageddon Collection Part 2 - contains issues 156-163 (issue #164 should have been included)
* Spawn: The Complete Armageddon Collection - contains issues 150-163 (does include Issue #164, the finale of the Al Loves Wanda story arc)

* Spawn: New Flesh Collection - contains issues 166-169 (note: Issue #165 wasn't included because it features the story of Mandarin Spawn)
* Spawn: Neo Noir - collects Spawn #170-175

For me I highly recommend The Complete Armageddon Collection, New Flesh, and Neo Noir.

[Greg Anderson]

Just a heads up, but Spawn guest stars in SAVAGE DRAGON#144. Enjoy Al Simmons in action a couple more times here before we see his headless corpse! Good stuff.

Heh, yeah, I noticed. Good stuff, I love those little team ups. :smile:

[michaeljsmith]

Heh, yeah, I noticed. Good stuff, I love those little team ups. :smile:

Me - not so much...I want to beat Erik up because I end up grabbing these issues when he does that and I am a poor person, I can only take so much :biggrin:

[Greg Anderson]

Me - not so much...I want to beat Erik up because I end up grabbing these issues when he does that and I am a poor person, I can only take so much :biggrin:

Haha! I feel you. And it doesn't help that it's a lot of fun and enjoyable too, eh? :redface:

[michaeljsmith]

Spawn #189 - spoilers included



He's back!!!! We got to see Spawn in action and I loved it - this is more of what I have been craving since the start of The Endgame. I am not saying all is fixed and all is forgiven but this is a great step in the right direction.

Jim freaks about, becomes Spawn and decides to either (a) take the symbiont for a test drive, or (b) has no clue what is going on when he is Spawn and unleashes a butt kicking on some criminals. Clown made this issue. He was "the villain" in the start, and then was reduced to a servant boy with the growth of Mammon's character... looks like Clown is back and I am excited.

The colors were great and this was Whilce's best issue to date. I feel like it has take five issues but we are getting ready to hit our stride...I cannot wait to see the next issue.

I am officially excited for the next issue... guys you might be on to something after all!!

4 out of 5

[GRANT!]

Yeah I dug seeing new Spawn in action.

What's the deal with his costume? Is he always going to look like a big black shadow?

[michaeljsmith]

Yeah I dug seeing new Spawn in action.

What's the deal with his costume? Is he always going to look like a big black shadow?

The symbiont is fighting Jim - Al had some issues with this early on too... they are in the courtship phase of the relationship :biggrin:

[GRANT!]

The symbiont is fighting Jim - Al had some issues with this early on too... they are in the courtship phase of the relationship :biggrin:

Yeah but Al's costume still looked like a costume.

[michaeljsmith]

Yeah but Al's costume still looked like a costume.

...and Al did not transform back and forth like Jim either. There are some weird things going on here. Apparently this is all part of Al's master plan from his suicide.

[Greg Anderson]

I'm really sorry to sound like a jerk, but from reading the responses on the Spawn board, all you need is some Jim action and it's the best issue now? :rolleyes: We find out about Clown's plan, cool. But I still feel as if not much happened. I mean, pick up an issue of something like X-Factor, heck Golly! Or Darkness. Shit happens. Not just one thing. This story is moving far too damn slow and I'm sick of this "movie" approach thing.

Overall, I didn't hate the issue. It was just "eh." But whatever. Art was nice at least.

[michaeljsmith]

I'm really sorry to sound like a jerk, but from reading the responses on the Spawn board, all you need is some Jim action and it's the best issue now? :rolleyes: We find out about Clown's plan, cool. But I still feel as if not much happened. I mean, pick up an issue of something like X-Factor, heck Golly! Or Darkness. Shit happens. Not just one thing. This story is moving far too damn slow and I'm sick of this "movie" approach thing.

Overall, I didn't hate the issue. It was just "eh." But whatever. Art was nice at least.

This was the best issue of ENDGAME to date - the Clown laying his plan as Spawn was falling and fighting to me was more than "action" but it was building a direction and vision. It should not have taken five issues to get to this point though :evilangry:

[Greg Anderson]

I just dunno anymore. I'm damn near to dropping the book as sad as that makes me but I fell in love with Al and his cast of characters that I am willing to stay to see what happens with them. Plus, I love me some Nyx and I am curious of Al's plan. But damn. The speed and writing format of this book needs to change.

[michaeljsmith]

I just dunno anymore. I'm damn near to dropping the book as sad as that makes me but I fell in love with Al and his cast of characters that I am willing to stay to see what happens with them. Plus, I love me some Nyx and I am curious of Al's plan. But damn. The speed and writing format of this book needs to change.

Well Brian Holguin is off as writer in another two issues - that is a pretty big change, and I don't know what impact it will have - scary

[Greg Anderson]

Well Brian Holguin is off as writer in another two issues - that is a pretty big change, and I don't know what impact it will have - scary

I really wish Holguin would do his own thing. His Godslayer was amazing and can clearly writing awesomely. The slow pacing and looooooooooonnnnnggggg dragged out story-telling is clearly Todd's. Holguin should do his own Image book. There's gotta be a way to get into his head to make one.

[michaeljsmith]

ENJOY

http://board.spawn.com/images/board/Spawn_190_Inked.jpg

[Greg Anderson]

Jim better get his ass off of Al's throne.

[michaeljsmith]

Jim better get his ass off of Al's throne.

No love for the angel? That is my ONLY complaint on Hine's run... no freaking angelic creatures - after Armageddon

[Greg Anderson]

No love for the angel? That is my ONLY complaint on Hine's run... no freaking angelic creatures - after Armageddon

I don't get wtf the Angel is even doing there when Al closed the portals of Heaven and Hell. Unless now that he's dead it's broken. But whatever. Gotta go, we'll chat up later.

[vickvega]

Ive never followed spawn until this new arc, and these characters like the clown are quite interesting but the story is VERY slow. Portacio's art is Awesome, but the setup is just slow, not bad, but slow. I will follow this until endgame is done and then probably pick up the future trades, if they gets good reviews. Still, for my money this is a great title at $2.95.

[stingerman]

December 2008 Sales - Source (http://www.comichron.com/monthlycomicssales/2008/2008-12.html)

Spawn #187 $2.95 Image 22,140

Bring Back Hine. :smile:

SPAWN #188 - 21,433

Bring Back Hine. :smile:

[Greg Anderson]

Haha! Weren't the numbers essentially the same when Hine was on it?

Although Todd was hoping for it to shoot back at the top, correct? Ah well.

[michaeljsmith]

Haha! Weren't the numbers essentially the same when Hine was on it?

Although Todd was hoping for it to shoot back at the top, correct? Ah well.

This book is never go to shoot back up the charts - those days are gone. Honestly I hear people say that "if Todd would draw it the book would be #1 again". I don't believe that for a second. Todd is iconic but would him coming back just be nostalgic or real buzz. I think he has been out of it long enough to lose some of that attraction. Comic fans are a fickle bunch and he has a lot of detractors and haters because of his youthful arrogance when he was on top.

I do miss Hine but I am looking forward to his new Radical Comics book FVZA when it comes out :biggrin:

[michaeljsmith]

Ive never followed spawn until this new arc, and these characters like the clown are quite interesting but the story is VERY slow. Portacio's art is Awesome, but the setup is just slow, not bad, but slow. I will follow this until endgame is done and then probably pick up the future trades, if they gets good reviews. Still, for my money this is a great title at $2.95.

Spawn is not so good about trades. I think they have released one in the past 2 years. I know they are going back and re-releasing the trades from the start under the banner Spawn Origins so maybe they will get better about it.

[Greg Anderson]

This book is never go to shoot back up the charts - those days are gone. Honestly I hear people say that "if Todd would draw it the book would be #1 again". I don't believe that for a second. Todd is iconic but would him coming back just be nostalgic or real buzz. I think he has been out of it long enough to lose some of that attraction. Comic fans are a fickle bunch and he has a lot of detractors and haters because of his youthful arrogance when he was on top.

I do miss Hine but I am looking forward to his new Radical Comics book FVZA when it comes out :biggrin:


Stop trying to get me excited! :biggrin:

[michaeljsmith]

You get excited every time you hear those two words "DAVID HINE"

[NickGuy]

ENJOY

http://board.spawn.com/images/board/Spawn_190_Inked.jpg

god damn, Whilce is KILLING IT. I actually dig this run, its a shame that many others dont feel the same way.

i ordered 189, waiting for it to come in the mail.

[michaeljsmith]

Greg Capullo to pencil Spawn #193 (http://www.spawn.com/news/news6.aspx?id=13558) click the link for the complete Press Release


http://www.spawn.com/news/images/spawn193cover_inprogress_photo_01_lg.jpg

Love the excitement Nick but come on did we need the GD? :rolleyes:

[Greg Anderson]

You get excited every time you hear those two words "DAVID HINE"

Hear, see, thought of... :biggrin:

[Greg Anderson]

Greg Capullo to pencil Spawn #193 (http://www.spawn.com/news/news6.aspx?id=13558) click the link for the complete Press Release


http://www.spawn.com/news/images/spawn193cover_inprogress_photo_01_lg.jpg

Love the excitement Nick but come on did we need the GD? :rolleyes:

Yep, when I'm stressing to drop the book they pull this to make sure I don't drop it! :mad:

[Greg Anderson]

Article on Capullo's return.

http://comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=20230

[michaeljsmith]

Yep, when I'm stressing to drop the book they pull this to make sure I don't drop it! :mad:

Maybe McFarlane is listening to all of our complaining after all.... this was the ONE thing that all of the fanboy haters were saying that could save their interest

[Greg Anderson]

May McFarlane is listening to all of our complaining after all.... this was the ONE thing that all of the fanboy haters were saying that could save their interest

Well, not me essentially. :redface:

I still may have reason to complain!

[michaeljsmith]

It is one issue, but it is going to be a FUN issue. Unfortunately MURCH called it though - how many variants for the return of Greg Capullo? :rolleyes:

[NickGuy]

wait, so its just one issue? whilce isnt leaving is he?


EDIT: read the article. neat! I will definately pick this up. I hope theres a response in sales, but idk if it will make that big of a change. spawn fans might come back, but how is TMP getting this news out to the fans that left spawn and comics, to bring all of them back? That's what im wondering.

also, I kind of think things are happening a bit too fast...first you have Jin Han getting the axe after what, 3 issues? then Haberlin is gone and McF is writing again...and now gregs back for an issue. things are getting shaken up creatively alot right now, and instead of coming off as exciting and new, it seems unstable.

[michaeljsmith]

wait, so its just one issue? whilce isnt leaving is he?


EDIT: read the article. neat! I will definately pick this up. I hope theres a response in sales, but idk if it will make that big of a change. spawn fans might come back, but how is TMP getting this news out to the fans that left spawn and comics, to bring all of them back? That's what im wondering.

also, I kind of think things are happening a bit too fast...first you have Jin Han getting the axe after what, 3 issues? then Haberlin is gone and McF is writing again...and now gregs back for an issue. things are getting shaken up creatively alot right now, and instead of coming off as exciting and new, it seems unstable.

Jin Han actually quit - he was moved to colors after he was part of the toy design downsizing and then decided that was not for him and he moved back to LA

[michaeljsmith]

Spawn #190 teaser... look who is back


http://board.spawn.com/images/board/Spawn190_Preview_0312.jpg

[Ben Akers]

Spawn is not so good about trades. I think they have released one in the past 2 years. I know they are going back and re-releasing the trades from the start under the banner Spawn Origins so maybe they will get better about it.

What's really great about that is that I can pick up the first five issues in trade paperback format for the third time. :rolleyes:

I found my old school Spawn Volume One trade, to go alongside my The Spawn Collection Volume One. I don't want to wait however many months or years to see them get back to where the Volume Six of the Collection Series left off.

[michaeljsmith]

What's really great about that is that I can pick up the first five issues in trade paperback format for the third time. :rolleyes:


So we all have that going for us... the thing I am most excited about is the talk of the hardcover editions (like The Walking Dead and Invincible). Then reprinting early editions will be so worth it... even if issue #9 won't be in it :rolleyes:

[Ben Akers]

So we all have that going for us... the thing I am most excited about is the talk of the hardcover editions (like The Walking Dead and Invincible). Then reprinting early editions will be so worth it... even if issue #9 won't be in it :rolleyes:

I actually own #9.

There were about a millions copies of it at a convention I went to back in 2000.

[michaeljsmith]

I actually own #9.

There were about a millions copies of it at a convention I went to back in 2000.

I think we all own at least one copy of it but undoubtedly every time these things are collected somebody will ask why #9 and #10 are not included in the collection. :wink:

[NickGuy]

Spawn #190 teaser... look who is back


http://board.spawn.com/images/board/Spawn190_Preview_0312.jpg

awesome art!

I ordered 189 like 3 weeks ago and it still hasnt come in the mail :(

[michaeljsmith]

Sorry you have not read #189 yet - it is without question the best book in the Endgame saga to date

[Ben Akers]

I finally got my copy of #189 in the mail.

I will try and read it soon, since I need something to keep me going on the series.

[michaeljsmith]

I finally got my copy of #189 in the mail.

I will try and read it soon, since I need something to keep me going on the series.

This issue was a good one - other than a falling scene that doesn't make sense... but well just read it

[Ben Akers]

Re: #189

It was a good issue. I felt like it flowed a little better than the previous entries in the story arc.

[michaeljsmith]

Re: #189

It was a good issue. I felt like it flowed a little better than the previous entries in the story arc.

To me it was the best since the relaunch and has a little bit of excitement buzzing

[J Alan Shelton]

I really enjoyed what I read of the last creative team's run and wasn't sure if this title needed another jump-start so soon...and to be honest, I'm still not.

However, I have picked up the first few chapters of the new story and while I'll say the previous run was better, I'm intrigued by this new status quo and think I'll be sticking around to see how it all plays out on the way to #200.

[michaeljsmith]

I really enjoyed what I read of the last creative team's run and wasn't sure if this title needed another jump-start so soon...and to be honest, I'm still not.

However, I have picked up the first few chapters of the new story and while I'll say the previous run was better, I'm intrigued by this new status quo and think I'll be sticking around to see how it all plays out on the way to #200.

It is impossible to live up to David Hine's run on Spawn that is for sure

[TheFightingPhilosopher]

I'm a little confused here so can someone help me out? Spawn had a limited amount of energy measured with the 9:9:9:9 counter, does he still have a limited amount or can he use as much as he wants? Note that I just finished issue 56.

[Ben Akers]

I'm a little confused here so can someone help me out? Spawn had a limited amount of energy measured with the 9:9:9:9 counter, does he still have a limited amount or can he use as much as he wants? Note that I just finished issue 56.

This is resolved during the Armageddon storyline that starts around #150.

I highly recommend getting the trade paperback.

[Double V]

I am new to comics and Spawn has got me interested after reading a bit about it online. Now, my question is where should I start reading? I was able to get numbers 1 - 25 on ebay for around 40 bucks, so that should be coming in pretty soon but collecting the entire series would be a pain in the ass. Is End Game a good starting point? or should i go back and read specific story arcs? Hopefully nobody asked these questions already, if somebody already did I apologize but i didn't really want to go through the entire post. Any help is appreciated.

[MattyB]

I am new to comics and Spawn has got me interested after reading a bit about it online. Now, my question is where should I start reading? I was able to get numbers 1 - 25 on ebay for around 40 bucks, so that should be coming in pretty soon but collecting the entire series would be a pain in the ass. Is End Game a good starting point? or should i go back and read specific story arcs? Hopefully nobody asked these questions already, if somebody already did I apologize but i didn't really want to go through the entire post. Any help is appreciated.

They have a couple different trades of the first issues of the comic so you can read those, I would suggest getting the Apocalypse trade since it is just an amazing Spawn and start reading with the endgames. So you could read the first couple volumes first to get a good of the Spawn universe.

Also I am a big Spawn fan and Endgame has been the must pick up comic series for me right now. Now I am just waiting for 189 to come in and then read 190 that is just sitting there wanting to be opened.

[michaeljsmith]

I am new to comics and Spawn has got me interested after reading a bit about it online. Now, my question is where should I start reading? I was able to get numbers 1 - 25 on ebay for around 40 bucks, so that should be coming in pretty soon but collecting the entire series would be a pain in the ass. Is End Game a good starting point? or should i go back and read specific story arcs? Hopefully nobody asked these questions already, if somebody already did I apologize but i didn't really want to go through the entire post. Any help is appreciated.

Here are a few suggestions from somebody that has been with the book since day one 16 years ago.

(1) Good starting point to jump in now is Endgame: Part One which starts at issue #185 but you might lose a little appreciation for the back story
(2) Great starting point to jump in is The Armageddon Collection (starts at issue #150 but you can grab a trade called the Complete Armageddon Collection). This was the best Spawn written to date.
(3) Once you finish Armageddon the next trade is New Flesh followed by Neo Noir
(4) Those two trades will get you to issue #175, and at this time there is no bridge to #185 which starts Endgame so you might need to grab singles
(5) If you are interested in reading the whole series you can go to Amazon.com and type in "Spawn Collection". There are six books that collect issues #1 thru #116 for about $20 each.
(6) This leaves you with a whole from #116 to #150 without trades and you would need to chase singles on ebay or comic shops... you should get a good deal out there.

In May TMP is releasing Spawn: Origins which is there attempt to release the trades from the start. They will release one 6 issue trade every other month. In June they are releasing Spawn: Endgame TPB so you will be able to get caught up on that fairly quick too. Below are the solicitations for those two books...

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo327/brikhed21/Spawn/SolicitOrigins1.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo327/brikhed21/Spawn/SolicitEndgameTPB1.jpg

If you are curious of anything else feel free to ask there are some great people around here who know a lot about the book (Grant!, Greg Anderson, Stinger, and many others).

-- Enjoy :smile:

[Double V]

Thank you BrikHed21, I really appreciate it.

[bigbluntz]

I haven't read spawn since around issue 100 and I'm kinda sad to see Al Simmons go out like that :frown: Is the new spawn any good and what happened to Al? I mean after he blows his head off.

[michaeljsmith]

I haven't read spawn since around issue 100 and I'm kinda sad to see Al Simmons go out like that :frown: Is the new spawn any good and what happened to Al? I mean after he blows his head off.

It is decent but it is following up the best run of Spawn which ran for #150 thru #184 and was written by David Hine so it is a tough comparison. There is a trade due out in June for the current Spawn or you can grab #185 as a good jumping on point.

We are still trying to figure out the details behind Al's death during this story arc. :rolleyes:

[MattyB]

I am in the stage of disbelief that he is gone, it's too bad.

[michaeljsmith]

I am in the stage of disbelief that he is gone, it's too bad.

Is he gone? One theory is that AL and JIM are connected. That back in issue #2 when AL was trying to change the way he looked he actually was taking over a person and not just looking like a person and it was him that put JIM in a coma. Somehow they are still connected :eek:

[rozman]

Review of Spawn 188-190.

With nearly two decades having passed since last purchasing a comic, I thought I’d finally check out Todd McFarlane’s Spawn project. These are my observations.
Spawn # 188 End Game Part 4

This was the first Spawn comic I read. Walking into a comic shop (Atomic Comics) as a grown man felt awkward, so I grabbed issue 188, 189 and a few other titles as quickly as possible. Now, had Image Comics allowed me to subscribe to this or any title, I would have taken that option, but back to the review.
The black and red cover with the screaming face gives me a little headache, but I am new to the title and accepted the intro. The interior had the classic McFarland inking, yet was very dark and dreary.
A conspiracy of some sort was being discussed between the characters and a beautiful woman brings an unemployed man that claims he cannot recall his own identity (that line never worked for me) to live with her after a brief meeting. The clown monster I remembered from the movie kills someone midway, then the girl’s new roommate turns into the title character. So goes my $2.95.


Spawn #189 End Game Part 5

The cover was better than the previous issue. The Spawn character is pictured peering down from the rooftops like every super hero seems to do from time to time. Sort of cool, I suppose.
The interior art still carries the McFarlane trademark inking, but was still too dark for my taste. The Jim Downing character “Spawns out” and destroys the bathroom of the poor woman who took him in and flees. She enters the destroyed bathroom tearful and says “What have you done?” to the demolished commode. Either she realizes the error of taking in strange people who claim they have amnesia, or Spawn left a floater.
The clown character from the movie reappears and continues stirring some sort of conspiracy as he scares a man who apparently breeds dogs for a living. In the next sequence Spawn falls through a roof right into the midst of bad guys (later revealed as drug dealers) with guns. Spawn ends their lives in dramatic, yet slightly confusing fashion. I really am not sure what his powers are, but he seems to have claws and throws rats at people.
The Jim Downing character returns to the apartment he destroyed earlier wearing a blood stained shirt. To my surprise the female character is ecstatic to see him and greats him with open arms. What? I just wasn’t buying the dynamic between the characters. If you leave the seat up, you’re likely to invoke a woman’s wrath, so being greeted like you’re a superstar after destroying the bathroom and returning to the crime scene wearing bloodstained clothing will likely get you arrested and not embraced. But what the hell, it’s a comic I suppose.
The last panel features a fat and a skinny detective. Apparently, they know about this Spawn guy. As far as I can tell, Spawn’s powers seem to be related to attracting women and making them support him despite his destructive and untidy ways. Now, that is a cool power to have.

Spawn #190 End Game Part 6

Ok, so I bought the latest issue. I’ll give Spawn three issues at the least. The cover was still much better than the screaming headache on issue #189. This one has an “in your face” Spawn approaching the reader. Actually pretty good, sort of scary as I look at the art.
This issue was not quite as dark, but still a bit too gloomy for my taste. The inking was still impressive, but I was confused with the additional characters and felt like the story moved slowly, that is when the footnotes started.
The pages are not numbered and I realized that I was able to suspend my disbelief until Todd started putting footnotes on the pages. I’m trying to get into the story and “See Issue 3! Todd” is printed on the bottom of the page. I guess he realized I may have needed help.
At the end of the issue, he Spawns out again and seems to be sporting a skull shaped cod-piece. I don’t get it.

Summary of Spawn Review

I don’t get it. Sorry, I tried. I really, really tried. Some of the strong points are the letters and replies from Todd at the end of each issue. The correspondence could make someone feel more connected to the series. People who prefer edgier comics and horror movies would probably like this series. The story felt a bit slow to me and I believe the implausible male/female relationship in the three issues illustrated why girls generally do not like comics. But, what do I know?
Conclusion

I might try one more issue. The return of my comic phase may be over. What I am thinking of doing, is donating these three issues to the Send a Soldier a Comic program. Maybe I can introduce the series to another person? Thanks for reading my review and I would advise giving this series at least three issues before forming an opinion.

[michaeljsmith]

I am a fan of Spawn and have been since issue #1 but if you are jumping back into comics this is not the book I recommend you try. Do yourself a favor and pick of the trades for The Walking Dead or Proof. You will be much happier about your return to comics and it will last a lot longer :cool:

[Greg Anderson]

Aww man, dude, there are other books well worth checking out for your first comic. I'd recommend Proof or the Walking Dead also.

[michaeljsmith]

Aww man, dude, there are other books well worth checking out for your first comic. I'd recommend Proof or the Walking Dead also.

HMMM - Greg agrees with me on something :eek: been a while since that happened :biggrin:

Kidding :cool:

[Greg Anderson]

That don't make us friends, Brik! :mad: :evilangry:











:tongue:

[Samanthab]

I have spawn 1 and really bought that way back 1996 but lost track of him after 1998 I miss the old spawn...

[Samanthab]

I have spawn 1 and really bought that way back 1996 but lost track of him after 1998 I miss the old spawn...

[michaeljsmith]

I have spawn 1 and really bought that way back 1996 but lost track of him after 1998 I miss the old spawn...

Honestly, I don't exactly miss the old Spawn. I have been with the book since day ONE and the best story telling of this book was really from 165 to 184. David Hine finally told us WHY Al Simmons was chosen and the how. It was amazing. I don't hate the new direction of Spawn but it is following on the heals of the best Spawn writing to date so it is going to be a let down.

[Greg Anderson]

I started re-reading those issues again (166-184). I just finished the Gunslinger issues. Man, how much I loved the run. There were so much crap I would have loved to see followed up on. Great horror book. Later today or maybe tomorrow I should finish the rest with the Bubble Boy arc and the Morana stuff. I remember when the Bubble Boy arc came, it wasn't too loved but I liked it. We'll see if it still stands.

[bushboy]

Damn, Gunslinger was awesome.

[Greg Anderson]

Pretty sure we were going to see him again if Hine was still writing to 200. There was to be a big Hellspawn battle. We coulda gotten Al vs Ol' Job. Or maybe Ol' Job vs Ninja Spawn. :cool:

[michaeljsmith]

I started re-reading those issues again (166-184). I just finished the Gunslinger issues. Man, how much I loved the run. There were so much crap I would have loved to see followed up on. Great horror book. Later today or maybe tomorrow I should finish the rest with the Bubble Boy arc and the Morana stuff. I remember when the Bubble Boy arc came, it wasn't too loved but I liked it. We'll see if it still stands.

Bubble Boy wasn't bad but the problem now is it feels like a wasted arc and it was headed off into some unknown region and never came back. I think it would have played a bigger theme into Hine's future stories if he would have stayed around We would have met others like Bubble Boy.

[Greg Anderson]

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/xeero0/spawn_comic_cover_166_cl-2.jpg

Okay, well I just finished re-reading #166-184. Holy moley was this a fun read. Surprisingly, this was the first time I read the second part of Hine's run in one long sitting (well, really two. Last night and just now). But yes, this was a great ride. I loved the run while it was going on but reading it in one read put it on another level. Even things I was a bit iffy about (the final battle) seem to read a lot better this second time combined with the rest of the run from #166. David Hine successfully brought the horror element that was missing in the Spawn books and tackled the horrors of men perfectly. Especially the horrors of Al Simmons himself. I loved the focus on forgiveness with Al and Nyx and later on with Wanda. The focus of love and an attempt to get back one's humanity. I just wish there were more issues to focus on the humanity element. Loved the little touches of it when Nyx tries to have Al touch her breast and loved Wanda and Al's last lines to each other.

While the whole run did read a lot better in one read, of course a lot of things I hated, loose ends really due to the creative team changing. For example, Marc just walking away, Richie being in Hell, Ester still at the house (I believe), the other people who gained abilities from the White Light... speaking of! Something that I wanted to see touched on SO BADLY after I finished reading were the virgins who decided to keep themselves pure for their God. On the bus, the Lord and Savior they were keeping themselves pure to was Al! Freakin' Al! And before that during the Bubble Boy arc, there was a man who saw Al who recognized him and was excited to see the man who saved the world. Man, if Dave's run was longer, would we have seen everyone's reaction to this? It seem as if Al would in fact be considered a hero to the common man, and who knows... maybe this would have helped redeemed him and brought forth some humanity. Remember, back when he had the bums as friends, I felt he showed a bit of his humanity when he hung out regularly with them and shared jokes and laughs. But in this case, pretty much the whole world knew him and would have probably accepted him. Of course, him taking the role as Savior would indeed be something to see, if he'd accept the role or not. How'd he react? There could have been cults of him, people actually looking and celebrating, creating churches for him. That little altar created by Mambo Suzanne was pretty much just the tip of the ice berg. And Mambo Suzanne. A character I would have loved to see again. And of course, are Ab and Zab still locked up inside of that church? :o:D

Let's not forget that amazing revelation of Morana. Man oh freakin' man! I remember being pumped as all hell reading that issue. Everything came down to this one moment, the child of Wanda and Al Simmons. The WWI issue and the Gunslinger, besides being a fun filled action ride, brought some great pieces of history of the Spawn-lore and what eventually led to this final confrontation of Morana and the rest of the cast. I only wish we saw more of Mammon and Morana's plans. While Mammon would have tried to gain control of Heaven, I'm sure Morana would have made Earth her playing field. Hmm, now that I think about it, maybe Al's role as the worlds "Savior" could have come into place once again with the people of Earth asking to be saved, only thing is... Al's powerless. But of course, he has the Legion. But man, I really wish Al would have at least killed Mammon. The bastard.

Now, the art. Awesome. I know everyone prefers Mr. Greg "So damn awesomeness" Capullo and second would be Philip "I'm such a freakin' bad-ass" Tan. But I absolutely fell head over heels for Brian "underrated editor while busting his ass drawing each month" Haberlin. I felt he and Dave were the perfect duo to bring this run that was essential horror stories. Haberlin's details on **** roaches, the Hellhounds, the battle between Al and the symbiote... just, man! I REALLY want to see Brian doing another horror tale. I felt he was absolutely perfect for this run. His **** was freakin' scary! You can imagine actually seeing the things that were being drawn in front of you. Just imagine seeing Celia, her skin all ripped off, sitting in front of you. Just plain perfect. His use of shadows, man oh man. And I can only wonder how long it took him to draw all those chains with Twitch went to go visit Al. Speakin' of! What the hell!? I wanted to see the Stooges back, busting ass, closing some portals. What was that issue with Sam and Twitch going to be anyway? The one that got wiped out as soon as the creative team announcement came about? Anywho, back to the art. Andy Troy on colors just added to the creepiness, with his low lightings, limited amount of color, etc. He was perfect for setting up the mood for this dark horror book. Goodness, just overall thanks for this great and fun read. Damn wish we could have gotten more, but hey, them's the breaks, aye?

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/xeero0/spawn_comic_cover_184_cl.jpg

[michaeljsmith]

I agree with the loose ends - and I hope that some of those are addressed in some fashion. Marc was used before Hine's run so I am sure he could pop-up again. I think there is a lot of potential for Richie being in Hell is McFarlane wants to tie that into his storyline. I think Al's mom and dad are just loose ends that will always exist.

You mentioned the virgins on the bus... they were killed by Morana, they were the bodies that were hanging upside down when she was feeding on the blood. I am not sure what more they could have done with that one.

I personally have Haberlin as my least favorite artist on Spawn. McFarlane, Capullo, Daniels, Medina and Tan are all ranked higher than him in my opinion. What made Hine's run fun though was for the first time in a long time I was more interested in the story than the art... which is not how Spawn got its start.

[Greg Anderson]

I know the virgins got killed by Morana. I was just saying that before that happened, maybe if Hine got his way to have the Morana arc later than sooner, we could have seen more of these virgins dedicating their life to Al as their God. That would have been very interesting.


(And Brik, post that post over at Hine's forum in case he'd have anything to say and I'll post this one I just typed. :redface: )

[michaeljsmith]

I know the virgins got killed by Morana. I was just saying that before that happened, maybe if Hine got his way to have the Morana arc later than sooner, we could have seen more of these virgins dedicating their life to Al as their God. That would have been very interesting.


(And Brik, post that post over at Hine's forum in case he'd have anything to say and I'll post this one I just typed. :redface: )

Posting away - slow start to the AM and I had to promote THE WALKING DEAD COVER battle in the main Image Forum on the board :wink:.

[Greg Anderson]

Posting away - slow start to the AM and I had to promote THE WALKING DEAD COVER battle in the main Image Forum on the board :wink:.

I noticed. You've been busting ass with these cover battles. What's next?

[michaeljsmith]

I noticed. You've been busting ass with these cover battles. What's next?

I just need to finish out the Spawn Cover Battle. That thing is going to end up lasting half the year at this rate. It has been so much fun seeing all of those old covers and hearing the stories why people like each one of them. RedHollywood was wanting to see one for Invincible but I might just have to wait a while for that one. The problem is you need at least 50 issues in a series before it is fun. I wish I liked Savage Dragon - I think that would be a fun one to do. .

[Greg Anderson]

Heh, I feel you on that one. That would have been really awesome. Also, with Darkness now doing their old numbering, that would have been kool too. Or Witchblade. :redface:

I can't wait for when you get to when Tan was doing the covers. Those will be extremely tough for me. I loved that we finally got covers that related to what the damn story was about.

[michaeljsmith]

Heh, I feel you on that one. That would have been really awesome. Also, with Darkness now doing their old numbering, that would have been kool too. Or Witchblade. :redface:

I can't wait for when you get to when Tan was doing the covers. Those will be extremely tough for me. I loved that we finally got covers that related to what the damn story was about.

Tan's covers should debut in about 3 weeks. :redface:

[Greg Anderson]

Tan's covers should debut in about 3 weeks. :redface:

Daaaamn, three weeks? :eek:

[michaeljsmith]

We are just up to issue #115 right now and I do 24 books per week. I believe Tan's first cover was #150 - if you do the math :rolleyes:

[Greg Anderson]

We are just up to issue #115 right now and I do 24 books per week. I believe Tan's first cover was #150 - if you do the math :rolleyes:

Damn, think about the variants of that book too! :redface: This is gonna be fun.

[michaeljsmith]

I know the virgins got killed by Morana. I was just saying that before that happened, maybe if Hine got his way to have the Morana arc later than sooner, we could have seen more of these virgins dedicating their life to Al as their God. That would have been very interesting.


(And Brik, post that post over at Hine's forum in case he'd have anything to say and I'll post this one I just typed. :redface: )

I really hope you cut and paste....

I did not feel like the Church of the White Light was going to be a big storyline or something to build upon. I felt that it was a one time throw away concept. I do however think the others who received powers through the White Light was going to be a recurring theme.

[Greg Anderson]

Well, who knows where that could have gone. I do think the ones receiving powers would probably be more prominent in the story. Heck, maybe we could have had some who became good guys to help Al out after seeing he good he did for them and saw their powers as a gift from him. Damn, so much interesting things that could have come out of this. But then again, Al's story was over and nothing else could have come out of it? :rolleyes:

[michaeljsmith]

Yes, and that hot girl I went out with once in high school. If I could go back and do that over again it all would have turned out different (and I wouldn't have spilled something on her) but what is the point of looking back because it won't change the present. Plus I like to imagine that she is 250 lbs now

[Greg Anderson]

Ha! You know all hot girls in high school never stay hot. It's the ugly duckings you have to look out for. :wink: :tongue:

[Greg Anderson]

Has the spawn forum been working at all for anyone? :confused:

[Greg Anderson]

Previews for Hine's Batman one-shot! :eek:

http://comics.ign.com/articles/974/974172p1.html

[michaeljsmith]

Has the spawn forum been working at all for anyone? :confused:


I have had tons of problems over there lately - but then again I am not getting all of my e-mail alerts from CBR so I guess nobody is perfect :rolleyes:

[Greg Anderson]

I have had tons of problems over there lately - but then again I am not getting all of my e-mail alerts from CBR so I guess nobody is perfect :rolleyes:

Heh heh. It finally decided to start working today.

[michaeljsmith]

It locked up on me this AM when I tried to post so I have not been back - busy day. Comic reviews to write :biggrin:

[Greg Anderson]

It locked up on me this AM when I tried to post so I have not been back - busy day. Comic reviews to write :biggrin:

Damn you for reading Dynamo 5 already. :mad:

[michaeljsmith]

Damn you for reading Dynamo 5 already. :mad:

:biggrin: what id I do wrong - just my job?

[michaeljsmith]

things to come in issue #191

http://board.spawn.com/images/board/Spawn191_Teaser_Lettered.jpg

[bushboy]

YaY! Finally got The Undead trade. Probably read it tomorrow.

[Greg Anderson]

YaY! Finally got The Undead trade. Probably read it tomorrow.

Nice! Do write a review, I really wanted to check that out.

And my shop is holding Neo Noir for me! :cool:

[michaeljsmith]

YaY! Finally got The Undead trade. Probably read it tomorrow.

It has been a while since I read Spawn: The Undead - I might need to dog those issues out soon :biggrin:

[bushboy]

Nice! Do write a review, I really wanted to check that out.


Pretty damn dark. I'd have to say it's high on my favorite Spawn portrayals. He's not chasing after Al Simmons, he's not all kick-ass gung-ho mercenary or all of that. It reminds me of what Todd said he'd want to do with the next movie. Here, Spawn's that haunting boogeyman figure where the main characters, otherwise ordinary people, know nothing about Al Simmons, but they have small ideas about the Hellspawn. For one, he's the living personification of the electric chair down the hall, another knows a little of what the Spawn is, but doesn't know what he's gotten himself into with Hell's special little boy. I like that he's interfering in Heaven and Hell's interference with Human lives. Gives alot more motivation for the events of Armageddon. It's cool how he goes about his spooky charity, still ending everything in his usual twisted way. I damn sure wish I could write as calmy twisted and moody as mister Jenkins. I like it.

Probably wasn't a good review, I leave that stuff to you and Brik. :redface:

[Greg Anderson]

Very interesting. I really wanted to read this book. I only have one issue. And you know I'm into the moody, creepy tone when it comes to comics and when it's well down in Spawn, well... it's well done. I really need to pick up this trade asap. Plus, I need me some more Al. :frown:

[NickGuy]

I want more frank miller written spawn myself, lol

[Delpire]

I have just read Hellspawn: the Ashley Wood collection and it's an open ending. I could find the following issues (#12 to #16), but I'm still missing issue 11.

Can someone fill me in on what happened with Cy-gor and Damascus?

[ElDuderino456]

Anybody know if the new Spawn origins trades are gonna collect everything up to Hines run?

[GRANT!]

Anybody know if the new Spawn origins trades are gonna collect everything up to Hines run?

Not sure. I guess if they sell well enough. Though it should be noted issues 9 and 10 won't ever be collected.

The former for legal issue between McFarlane and Neil Gaiman and the later because Dave Sim asked Todd not to include it in a trade.

[ElDuderino456]

Yeah i know. I'm totally out of the loop on Spawn so I'm jumping at the chance to start over from the beginning. Maybe by that time the new direction will have found its legs. Or at least brought Al back.