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Greg Anderson
11-04-2008, 02:02 AM
I had not read Spawn for quite some time and decided to try the new creative team. I had bought issues 181-184 to warm me up and found myself really enjoying the David Hine and Brian Haeberlin era. I will put the rest of David Hine's run on my back issue list. But the new direction is very exciting. I can't wait to see what is next.

You're going to have a blast! :smile: I felt the last few issues of Hine's run weren't as great as most of his run, but it's more enjoyable when you've read the previous stuff that lead to it. And man... Imma miss Haberlin. :frown:

BrikHed21
11-04-2008, 04:53 AM
I just wish Hine would have been allowed to kill Al. I just feel he could have tied the act into the story more smoothly.

bookguy
11-04-2008, 06:23 AM
After reading number 185, I'm reminded of the chicken running around after having its head cut off.

Really, more obscure than LOST and more convoluted than HEROES.

I should hope that all will make sense eventually.

:eek:

Global Honored
11-04-2008, 09:46 AM
I have missed oh..100 + issues and a decade or so of Spawn books. Would I "get it" if I were to pick this up?

BrikHed21
11-04-2008, 09:54 AM
I have missed oh..100 + issues and a decade or so of Spawn books. Would I "get it" if I were to pick this up?

In the simplest answer YES and NO. Issue #185 is really a good jumping on point so if you are interested now is the time. Some things might not make a ton of sense in the issue as they are starting something new so we are ALL trying to figure out the next steps. That is the simple answer without spoiler information. :wink:

stingerman
11-04-2008, 09:31 PM
Just read it...had the feel of the old days (early Spawn), imo.

Not bad. Nice, they did mention Hines run in the beginning.

Art was...I liked it at the end. I guess it grew on me.

Anyone else catch, AL'SPAWN SHOP?

Nice to see that patient 47 had some kind of background and *poof* didn't just become the new hellspawn (maybe). What's his past and connections to the "boss"?

There were 5 variants? That is sickening. LOL.

BrikHed21
11-05-2008, 06:57 AM
Just read it...had the feel of the old days (early Spawn), imo.

Not bad. Nice, they did mention Hines run in the beginning.

Art was...I liked it at the end. I guess it grew on me.

Anyone else catch, AL'SPAWN SHOP?

Nice to see that patient 47 had some kind of background and *poof* didn't just become the new hellspawn (maybe). What's his past and connections to the "boss"?

There were 5 variants? That is sickening. LOL.

The rumor is there are FIVE VARIANTS - we have only seen proof of FOUR although Todd did hold up the fifth in a video interview. It has to be like less than 100 printed rare though.

I am holding judgement until there is more to base my opinion. One issue does not make or ruin a series. I did like the art a lot personally though :tongue:

Greg Anderson
11-06-2008, 06:29 PM
Just reminding that the monthly Hine read this month is once again Spawn, it has been extended for another month due to a bit of lack of activity and busy-ness from reality, etc. So yes, c'mon, join me in Spawn discussion of Hine's run over at his forum! :smile:

http://www.imagecomics.com/messageboard/viewtopic.php?t=43442

BrikHed21
11-06-2008, 06:35 PM
Just reminding that the monthly Hine read this month is once again Spawn, it has been extended for another month due to a bit of lack of activity and busy-ness from reality, etc. So yes, c'mon, join me in Spawn discussion of Hine's run over at his forum! :smile:

http://www.imagecomics.com/messageboard/viewtopic.php?t=43442

I so want to do this but have been unreal busy. We all know that Hine's run turned the world of Spawn around 8 different ways and made it all make sense.

pressdarlings
11-06-2008, 06:40 PM
I want to start from the top but avoid all the mediocre stuff and pick up again for the Armageddon arc (which issue numbers are those?).

Greg Anderson
11-06-2008, 08:09 PM
I want to start from the top but avoid all the mediocre stuff and pick up again for the Armageddon arc (which issue numbers are those?).

#150-#164 are the Armageddon issues.

pressdarlings
11-06-2008, 09:40 PM
#150-#164 are the Armageddon issues.

When do the stories lose their kick? Is it after MacFarlane's run or?

Greg Anderson
11-06-2008, 10:16 PM
When do the stories lose their kick? Is it after MacFarlane's run or?

What, you mean before the Hine run? I honestly can't really say because everyone has their own opinions. Some people feel after 100, some people feel it was WAY before that. I myself have been reading regularly since the 80s (on and off)
and regularly after 100. Tried to catch up with some of the back issues. I tried to re-read 100-149 recently and I just couldn't get into it. I didn't see why I loved it so much back when they were coming out. The Hine run has been too darn great of a read.

BrikHed21
11-12-2008, 02:44 PM
Still angery about the variant covers :evilangry:

...OK, now I am over it - no I am not!!

Greg Anderson
11-12-2008, 03:49 PM
Come one, Stingerman, bushboy, and others! Come over to the Hine boards and discuss his run! Read! Whatev! Just come! Or I'll knock out Brikhed's knee caps! :mad:

bushboy
11-12-2008, 03:52 PM
Come one, Stingerman, bushboy, and others! Come over to the Hine boards and discuss his run! Read! Whatev! Just come! Or I'll knock out Brikhed's knee caps! :mad:

I really do need to visit the Image boards more often. Don't know why I don't O.o

Greg Anderson
11-12-2008, 03:54 PM
I really do need to visit the Image boards more often. Don't know why I don't O.o

It's okay. I'm here to make things right. Go on. Open up a new tab... type it... yes: imagecomics.com/messageboards... and then scroll down to David hine's forum and let us discuss his great run. All the while pick up your trade and have at it. :evilsmile:

BrikHed21
11-12-2008, 03:59 PM
Break my knee caps - I'm already dead. Check Proof #13 if you don't believe me.

bushboy
11-12-2008, 04:02 PM
Break my knee caps - I'm already dead. Check Proof #13 if you don't believe me.

:eek: I knew there was something I forgot to pick up last time I was at the LCS.

BrikHed21
11-16-2008, 04:16 AM
We have seen what happened in #185 but what comes next? Everything has changed...

Spawn #186
story TODD McFARLANE & BRIAN HOLGUIN
art & cover WHILCE PORTACIO & TODD McFARLANE

Last issue, everything changed! The world of SPAWN was rocked by the most stunning moment in the series' sixteen year history. And now, the mystery deepens... Sides are chosen and secrets are revealed? Experience SPAWN's bold new direction with the all-star creative team of TODD McFARLANE, WHILCE PORTACIO and BRIAN HOLGUIN.

NOVEMBER 26 * 32 PAGES * FC * $2.95

http://heavyink.com/images/covers/SEP08/MSEP082220.JPG

...and check out this FOUR PAGE PREVIEW (http://www.newsarama.com/php/multimedia/album.php?aid=24177)

DeathSentence
11-16-2008, 01:43 PM
Is there 4 variants for #186 too? That is just disgusting to have 4. I only bought 1 of them but still.

BrikHed21
11-16-2008, 03:11 PM
Is there 4 variants for #186 too? That is just disgusting to have 4. I only bought 1 of them but still.

...it was 5 variants for issue #185. They are typically selling as a complete collection for $300 plus on eBay

bookguy
11-17-2008, 06:23 AM
I liked the Endgame ads that ran from SPAWN # 180-184.

However, I get the feeling that Spawn # 185-200 is more like Cerebus #200 (and the storyline building up to).

I hope that this will bring the series to an definitive conclusion.

Or at the so very least, tie up all or most of the sub-plots since # 1.

BrikHed21
11-17-2008, 07:00 AM
The loose threads will be there for a while. I doubt that a lot of those ends are tied up anytime soon.

flashdisk
11-17-2008, 07:39 AM
What, you mean before the Hine run? I honestly can't really say because everyone has their own opinions. Some people feel after 100, some people feel it was WAY before that. I myself have been reading regularly since the 80s (on and off)
and regularly after 100. Tried to catch up with some of the back issues. I tried to re-read 100-149 recently and I just couldn't get into it. I didn't see why I loved it so much back when they were coming out. The Hine run has been too darn great of a read.

In my opinion, the reason why Spawn so intresting in the beginning was its originality. It had gritty feel, and its hero was not only was not only one of the few interesting african american heroes of that time, but he was he was the strangest and most remarkable heroes; both disfigured and lived in the streets. A polar opposite to the current hero titles such as superman, spider-man and batman. Spawn's storylines could be as dirty and gritty as can be. These made the comic identifiable.

I believe the reason Spawn hasn't been able to gain it second wind is that the strange has already become the norm. Heroes and anti heroes, just like Spawn have already become rampant in stories. The comic books have become more gritty, more dirty and at times quite close to real life.

So what now can separate Spawn from the rest?

BrikHed21
11-20-2008, 07:29 AM
Spawn #186 - Spoilers Included


First, I went to 3 shops and could not find the reprint of #185 so I am very curious to see the full Image. I am hoping that one turns up somewhere in the near future.

#186 - I feel like the story has continued to move forward but the art felt a little less than what it was last issue. There appear to be a ton of players in the mix right now from Sara the nurse to the man in the coffee shop hiring hitmen. Tom has a vision of himself as Spawn and doesn't admit it to the doctors. New detectives appear on the scene to understand why the lawyer killed himself last issue (would like to see a Sam or Twitch sighting when it comes to police work) and we finally get the one thing that I felt was truly missing as of late in Spawn.... an ANGEL sighting.

All of this circling around our boy Jim Downing until the last page and all I want to know is who the heck is that?

Nice continuation of the ENDGAME saga - how many issues will be in the first story arc?

DeathSentence
11-21-2008, 07:53 PM
Its too bad anout the sales of the book. Spawn showed some promise. 26 000 issues estimated is not a lot but i hope they continue the story because i am intrigued. But i gotta admit, i am finding it hard for a new reader such as myself to fit in with this "reboot".

stingerman
11-22-2008, 04:14 PM
Its too bad anout the sales of the book. Spawn showed some promise. 26 000 issues estimated is not a lot but i hope they continue the story because i am intrigued. But i gotta admit, i am finding it hard for a new reader such as myself to fit in with this "reboot".

26 thou? That's it? Wow.

Anyway, I thought these issues were really good and I like the direction they are going. The Violator was pretty cool and I was always a big fan. I see they are going away from the clown angle by the looks of it, which is ok, as he is a demon or whatever. They did a nice jog explaining it, too.

I hope some questions are answered next issue.

DeathSentence
11-22-2008, 05:59 PM
26 thou? That's it? Wow.

Anyway, I thought these issues were really good and I like the direction they are going. The Violator was pretty cool and I was always a big fan. I see they are going away from the clown angle by the looks of it, which is ok, as he is a demon or whatever. They did a nice jog explaining it, too.

I hope some questions are answered next issue.

Yea here is the estimated sales for the month of october:

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=18907

Didnt do as well as i thought. Scroll down to # 104 in the top comics.

BrikHed21
11-22-2008, 08:50 PM
The sad part about the numbers were that there were 5 different covers. I have come to accept that Spawn is always going to be about #100 on the charts and that is OK by me. The Walking Dead and Invincible are both in that neighborhood and nobody makes a huge deal about it. This book has been around 186 issues. Unless you are Marvel or DC mainstream characters it is hard to hold out that long.

stingerman
11-23-2008, 01:22 AM
The sad part about the numbers were that there were 5 different covers. I have come to accept that Spawn is always going to be about #100 on the charts and that is OK by me. The Walking Dead and Invincible are both in that neighborhood and nobody makes a huge deal about it. This book has been around 186 issues. Unless you are Marvel or DC mainstream characters it is hard to hold out that long.

I wonder if those numbers are correct. 5 covers and that's all they sold?

All that hype etc, they axe Hine and get not even ten thousand more out of it?

I thought I heard somewhere issue one was sold out? They only made that many?

DeathSentence
11-23-2008, 01:43 AM
I heard that too. Thy are just estimations and they cant be that accurate. So who knows...

BrikHed21
11-30-2008, 04:27 PM
So Todd says that Patient 47 has appeared in Spawn before - any guesses who he is? :evilsmile:

flashdisk
12-01-2008, 08:32 PM
So Todd says that Patient 47 has appeared in Spawn before - any guesses who he is? :evilsmile:

The guy Al pretended to be when he came for Angela's trial. The one who someone said looked like hydroman. :)

Just a shot in the dark.

bushboy
12-01-2008, 08:41 PM
Finally got my copy of #186. Can't wait for the newbie's first fight.

BrikHed21
12-02-2008, 05:38 AM
The guy Al pretended to be when he came for Angela's trial. The one who someone said looked like hydroman. :)

Just a shot in the dark.

I'm hoping it is somebody significant. My first thought when I thought about it and he yelled "son" the first thoughts I had were (1) the dad who beat his kids and Spawn took care of, and (2) Christopher's dad...although I don't remember seeing him and his mom even talked about him not being around.

This is one of those things that makes you start guessing the craziest ideas.

bushboy
12-02-2008, 10:26 AM
(2) Christopher's dad...although I don't remember seeing him and his mom even talked about him not being around.


That would be kinda cool.

vickvega
12-02-2008, 11:42 AM
Ive never read Spawn before, except when it first came out as a kid. The Todd McFarlane cover really caught my eye and I bought the #185 issue. I really like the darkness of Portacio's art and the story got me curious. I got #186 and im excited for the next issue. I dont understand everything thats going on, but i will stick with it until the end of this story arc to see how good or bad it will be. Image comics is becoming my favorite publisher. All of the most famous characters are worn out to me or stuck in continuity issues. Images newer characters seem more accessible to me because they're not 500+ issues deep.

BrikHed21
12-02-2008, 12:39 PM
Ive never read Spawn before, except when it first came out as a kid. The Todd McFarlane cover really caught my eye and I bought the #185 issue. I really like the darkness of Portacio's art and the story got me curious. I got #186 and im excited for the next issue. I dont understand everything thats going on, but i will stick with it until the end of this story arc to see how good or bad it will be.

If it helps we are all a little confused (in a good way) with what is going on right now and that is coming from a person that has been with the book since day one. Spawn is changing and that is a fun thing and a good time to jump on board with the book.

Image comics is becoming my favorite publisher. All of the most famous characters are worn out to me or stuck in continuity issues. Images newer characters seem more accessible to me because they're not 500+ issues deep.

Image is without question my favorite publisher right now. The biggest difference I see is that the things that happen to the characters have impact and effect. One of the best characters ever in Spawn was Angela - she died in issue #100 and she ain't coming back. In Marvel/DC world a new writer would bring her back (i.e. Jason Todd effect). I have at least 10 Image books on my pull list. Proof, The Walking Dead, Spawn, Invincible, Golly!, Dynamo 5, Firebreather, Noble Causes, Astounding Wolf-Man, and the list continues :biggrin:

SParsons
12-02-2008, 10:34 PM
I love Spawn

stingerman
12-02-2008, 11:15 PM
So Todd says that Patient 47 has appeared in Spawn before - any guesses who he is? :evilsmile:

Hmmm...I am thinking someone early on in the series, perhaps.

I would have to look through those issues.

Greg Anderson
12-03-2008, 02:28 AM
I can't seem to think of anyone. I'm leaning more towards the guy who Al used to transform into in the beginning of the series.

Greg Anderson
12-03-2008, 02:38 AM
Since Hine's been getting a bigger fan-base due to his work on Spawn, I thought it'd be kool to get his new followers into his other awesome work! Over at his forum, we're running a monthly reading/discussion thread where each month we focus on a different book of Hine, this month being his first Marvel work, District X! So come on over and let's have a kool aid ol' time!

http://www.imagecomics.com/messageboard/viewtopic.php?t=42815

This month's read is District X, vol. 2! Come on by!

http://www.imagecomics.com/messageboard/viewtopic.php?t=44068

BrikHed21
12-03-2008, 05:48 AM
I love Spawn

I'm sure he loves you too :). Seriously though it is a book that is easy to enjoy.

bushboy
12-03-2008, 02:01 PM
This month's read is District X, vol. 2! Come on by!

http://www.imagecomics.com/messageboard/viewtopic.php?t=44068

I think District X was the first Hine I ever read. Need to track down a copy...

stingerman
12-03-2008, 06:07 PM
I can't seem to think of anyone. I'm leaning more towards the guy who Al used to transform into in the beginning of the series.

Right that white guy. Anybody got a pic handy?

BrikHed21
12-03-2008, 09:33 PM
Right that white guy. Anybody got a pic handy?

They were posting it on Spawn.com but I am too lazy to go find it :redface:

stingerman
12-04-2008, 12:11 AM
They were posting it on Spawn.com but I am too lazy to go find it :redface:

From A Spawn Respect Thread (http://lounge.moviecodec.com/topics/53871p1.html)

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/9447/26jo.th.jpg

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/2300/32bt.th.jpg

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/3687/spawn03112op.th.jpg

BrikHed21
12-04-2008, 05:21 AM
Darn you Stinger, you make me look even lazier than I really am. Kiddingf!

Great job!

stingerman
12-04-2008, 06:48 PM
Darn you Stinger, you make me look even lazier than I really am. Kiddingf!

Great job!

Hey, I could have blown up the pics and then put them on, but guess what?

I was being lazy. :biggrin:

BrikHed21
12-05-2008, 06:04 AM
Hey, I could have blown up the pics and then put them on, but guess what?

I was being lazy. :biggrin:

That was pretty cheap of you - I have come to expect so much more. For the record though Greg is smoking crack, this is NOT Patient 47. :evilsmile:

Greg Anderson
12-05-2008, 06:06 AM
That was pretty cheap of you - I have come to expect so much more. For the record though Greg is smoking crack, this is NOT Patient 47. :evilsmile:

Crack crack! :biggrin:

BrikHed21
12-05-2008, 07:53 AM
I really have not seen too many "wow" guesses as for the identity for Patient 47 :confused:

stingerman
12-05-2008, 09:38 PM
That was pretty cheap of you - I have come to expect so much more. For the record though Greg is smoking crack, this is NOT Patient 47. :evilsmile:

LOL!

You sure? Wasn't the white guy he came back as a burn victim or something? Fits in with the hospital thing.

bushboy
12-06-2008, 09:23 AM
LOL!

You sure? Wasn't the white guy he came back as a burn victim or something? Fits in with the hospital thing.

I thought it was just an illusion. The whole burnt thing was Al himself. Maybe it's someone from the Alley

jackie0109
12-07-2008, 07:49 AM
Good day everyone, I was once a Spawn comics lover and I just want to ask what is the latest issue of Spawn comics. It has been 8 years since I last read one.

BrikHed21
12-07-2008, 08:02 AM
Good day everyone, I was once a Spawn comics lover and I just want to ask what is the latest issue of Spawn comics. It has been 8 years since I last read one.

186 is the latest issue but if you are looking to jump on as a new reader 185 is the perfect point. It is a new starting point for Spawn.

stingerman
12-07-2008, 10:19 PM
I thought it was just an illusion. The whole burnt thing was Al himself. Maybe it's someone from the Alley

Well, for Al it was an illusion but that doesn't mean the guy didn't exist somewhere.

BrikHed21
12-08-2008, 05:18 AM
Reading some of the early issues, I personally think of much of those story lines as an illusion.

Greg Anderson
12-08-2008, 02:04 PM
I started a new thread over at Hine's forum to discuss aspects of Spawn in relation to its uses of Christianity and other religions. Come on by!

http://imagecomics.com/messageboard/viewtopic.php?t=44129

BrikHed21
12-08-2008, 02:15 PM
I started a new thread over at Hine's forum to discuss aspects of Spawn in relation to its uses of Christianity and other religions. Come on by!

http://imagecomics.com/messageboard/viewtopic.php?t=44129

Sure as soon as you can get my account re-activated :evilangry:

Greg Anderson
12-08-2008, 02:18 PM
Sure as soon as you can get my account re-activated :evilangry:

Yeah, I'm missing you over there, dude. :frown:

Plus, some things I think I'd find interesting from you pov on this topic and all.

BrikHed21
12-08-2008, 02:28 PM
Yeah, I'm missing you over there, dude. :frown:

Plus, some things I think I'd find interesting from you pov on this topic and all.

Heck if I knew who to contact I would try to get my account fixed. I would prefer not to have to sign up all over again and start from scratch but I might have to do that. I would prefer to figure out who the ADMINISTRATOR is and have them reset my password and/or e-mail address for my BrikHed21 account. :mad:

BrikHed21
12-15-2008, 06:50 AM
I'm struggling to think how this new direction is going to work without AL - is it just me?

Greg Anderson
12-15-2008, 07:41 AM
I'm struggling to think how this new direction is going to work without AL - is it just me?

I try not to think about it.

BrikHed21
12-15-2008, 08:00 AM
That is one approach - not necessarily the practical one but it is one way to look at it. I know it is early in the ENDGAME to base judgment, so I am keeping an open mind, but I just question how things will end up. :frown:

Greg Anderson
12-15-2008, 01:31 PM
Oh, I've been keeping an open mind also, it's just that thus far I haven't been too interested. Nothing is intriguing but the art. And I feel the stories are moving slow already. It's just the way MacFarlane and Holguin writes. If you've noticed, the writing style already matches how it was being written before Hine came on board. I'm just hoping things pick up next issue.

BrikHed21
12-15-2008, 04:37 PM
I'm finding myself a little bummed right now that is for sure. I wonder how long this first story arc is expected to last?

stingerman
12-15-2008, 08:56 PM
I am kinda digging it. Though I don't really think its the Spawn part that has me intrigued - I think its the Violator part.

BrikHed21
12-16-2008, 05:07 AM
I am kinda digging it. Though I don't really think its the Spawn part that has me intrigued - I think its the Violator part.

This is starting to smell a little like Quasar all over again :(

BrikHed21
12-17-2008, 06:11 AM
Coming out next week will be Spawn #187 and the second print for Spawn #186:

SPAWN
MONTHLY SERIES
ISSUE 187 | DECEMBER 2008
http://www.spawn.com/comics/images/tab_comics_header_credits.gif
STORY Brian Holguin, Todd McFarlane
LETTERS Tom Orzechowski
COVER Whilce Portacio
COLORS Jin Han
INKS Todd McFarlane
PENCILS Whilce Portacio

http://www.spawn.com/comics/images/tab_comics_header_summary.gif
The Endgame continues. The world of Spawn is still recoilling from the stunning revelations of issue 185. As word of the game changing events echo from the rafters of Heaven to the depths of Hell, players begin to study the board, plot their strategies and make their move.

http://www.spawn.com/comics/Spawn/monthly/images/spawn_comic_cover_187_cl.jpg

stingerman
12-17-2008, 10:47 AM
This is starting to smell a little like Quasar all over again :(

LOL! Well it already reaks of One More Day! ... Or Captain America, or Hulk, or Dr. Strange, or Black Panther, ...

BrikHed21
12-18-2008, 09:38 PM
LOL! Well it already reaks of One More Day! ... Or Captain America, or Hulk, or Dr. Strange, or Black Panther, ...

Calm down Marvel boy - calm down :biggrin:

Greg Anderson
12-25-2008, 01:34 PM
Spawn: Book of the Dead!

I bought mine yesterday. I wasn't planning on buying it, was hoping to wait later one but this was the last copy left and since I had a bit of cash, I thought, "Why not?"

Darn good read! I enjoyed it a lot. I loved a lot of the info on each page focusing on a different subject matter and just how vast the story of Spawn and Al Simmons is. Loved the stuff on Mammon and the past Hellspawns. Loved the Angela section. We didn't get anything on the second Redeemer though. Man, I was also itching for some stuff after issue 100! Darn it! Also, I was wondering how come it wasn't mentioned that Mammon helped crafted Al into a Hellspawn especially with the mention of Mammon meeting Al's great grandfather and Ol Job, but I suppose that's best saved for next volume with the story lines connecting to Marona.

I hope they release volume 2 ASAP!!!

xarathos
12-26-2008, 06:02 PM
Give McFarlane some credit. It can't be nearly as bad as One More Day.:smile:

vickvega
12-28-2008, 07:38 PM
Im enjoying this new story arc quite a bit. I love the Darkness and the mood of the comic, plus I love the quality of the actual floppy. The book just seems to be a higher quality comic with better paper and inking than a Marvel/DC would have for 2.99

BrikHed21
12-29-2008, 10:00 AM
Im enjoying this new story arc quite a bit. I love the Darkness and the mood of the comic, plus I love the quality of the actual floppy. The book just seems to be a higher quality comic with better paper and inking than a Marvel/DC would have for 2.99

TMP has always had quality for the money and he is $0.04 cheaper at $2.95 :wink:

Greg Anderson
12-29-2008, 01:00 PM
It pains me to say this but I just may be dropping the book.

BrikHed21
12-29-2008, 01:05 PM
It pains me to say this but I just may be dropping the book.

Don't you think you should get through the first story arc? :eek:

BrikHed21
12-29-2008, 01:06 PM
Spawn #187 - Spoilers Included


Ummm, I am still not sure. That is the best way to talk about this book. The new direction of Spawn is still a work in progress and I am still not over the fact that Al Simmons is gone forever - but I just don't know. There is a real coolness factor to the book and the direction it is going. The mercenary that was hired to kill Patient 47, I will eventually start calling him by his name, was pretty sweet but I am concerned about his "latent like me" comment. The art was decent enough, you know what you are getting with Whilce Portacio, and I thought it was cool to see the three reporters back on TV like the old days but I am still not sure about the direction. All of the sudden Spawn has become the Incredible Hulk and he changes back and forth and doesn't know why or how and what happened. Obviously I have been with the book for 187 issues I am not going anywhere anytime soon but the jury is still out to this point.

I am not sure how long ENDGAME is scheduled to run but I am eager to see what happens next.

Greg Anderson
12-29-2008, 01:33 PM
Don't you think you should get through the first story arc? :eek:

We'll see, my good brutha. It's just a plan, though. I'm going back and forth debating if I should keep going with the book or not. I gave it a chance and I'm not enjoying it. Usually if I don't like one issue of a book, I'm done with it. I gave this book 3 issues due to it originally being my favorite series for years, I just dunno anymore. I'll give it a bit more time, I guess.

BrikHed21
12-29-2008, 01:36 PM
Understood - times are tough and money it tight so sometimes you cannot give a book a long hard look. I am still here for a while. I will play out at least the first story arc and maybe the second before making a decision. I liked some of the old time stuff with the news anchors and such and I am intrigued to see who put Sarah asleep and what the deal with this mercenary is really about.

I am intrigued but a little disappointed for sure :frown:

Greg Anderson
12-29-2008, 01:40 PM
Understood - times are tough and money it tight so sometimes you cannot give a book a long hard look. I am still here for a while. I will play out at least the first story arc and maybe the second before making a decision. I liked some of the old time stuff with the news anchors and such and I am intrigued to see who put Sarah asleep and what the deal with this mercenary is really about.

I am intrigued but a little disappointed for sure :frown:

See, I wish I was at least intrigued. But I'm not. There's not one thing that fascinates me. I dunno. I'll read the last three issues together and see how I feel.

BrikHed21
12-29-2008, 01:44 PM
See, I wish I was at least intrigued. But I'm not. There's not one thing that fascinates me. I dunno. I'll read the last three issues together and see how I feel.

The mercenary and why they want him dead? The fact that he is the Incredible Hulk now and changes back and forth? I don't know there is something to all of this.... I am not saying it will be great but it could be really good.... ok maybe just good :biggrin:

Greg Anderson
12-29-2008, 01:56 PM
The mercenary and why they want him dead? The fact that he is the Incredible Hulk now and changes back and forth? I don't know there is something to all of this.... I am not saying it will be great but it could be really good.... ok maybe just good :biggrin:

There's no excitement to it for me anymore. It's missing that sex the book used to have. I know some of that stuff should be interesting and keep us on edge, but there's sadly nothing, I think I'm still bitter over the creative change and Al's death. I dunno.

BrikHed21
12-29-2008, 02:30 PM
Letter to Todd - Greg needs more "sex" in the book :biggrin:

Greg Anderson
12-29-2008, 02:37 PM
Ha! :biggrin:

BrikHed21
12-29-2008, 02:40 PM
I can e-mail that picture of Wanda riding the Terry "Action" Fitzgerald "Express" from issue #183 if you want :tongue:

Greg Anderson
12-29-2008, 02:47 PM
I can e-mail that picture of Wanda riding the Terry "Action" Fitzgerald "Express" from issue #183 if you want :tongue:

Haha! Yes, that was a funny moment. Al had to come and cock-block, of course. Calling his wife a whore. Sheesh, Al. Man.. I miss Al. :frown:

BrikHed21
12-29-2008, 02:50 PM
Haha! Yes, that was a funny moment. Al had to come and cock-block, of course. Calling his wife a whore. Sheesh, Al. Man.. I miss Al. :frown:

Sorry to bring up tough memories for you but I agree. I respected Al Simmons, I knew Al Simmons, and Patient 47 you are NO Al Simmons. :tongue:

Greg Anderson
12-29-2008, 03:05 PM
Sorry to bring up tough memories for you but I agree. I respected Al Simmons, I knew Al Simmons, and Patient 47 you are NO Al Simmons. :tongue:

Who the hell does he think he is anyway? Plus, he's suppose to be embracing his powers? Bitch, accept your powers after Al finished clearing out his loose ends. What he think this is, a sit-com? :mad:

NickGuy
12-29-2008, 03:22 PM
*cue laugh track*

Greg Anderson
12-29-2008, 03:38 PM
*cue laugh track*

Sorry, too much Blade quotes on my mind lately. :redface:

BrikHed21
12-30-2008, 09:38 AM
Who the hell does he think he is anyway? Plus, he's suppose to be embracing his powers? Bitch, accept your powers after Al finished clearing out his loose ends. What he think this is, a sit-com? :mad:

So you are on for the rest of this story arc then huh :rolleyes:

Greg Anderson
12-30-2008, 11:18 AM
So you are on for the rest of this story arc then huh :rolleyes:

We'll see. I re-read the last three issues and still wasn't too into it.

BrikHed21
12-30-2008, 11:45 AM
Getting dizzy, talking in circles :eek:

Greg Anderson
12-30-2008, 11:46 AM
Or deja vu!

BrikHed21
12-30-2008, 11:52 AM
I am hoping the LCS has BOOK OF THE DEAD when I check in today or I fear I might just be out of luck on that one :evilangry:

Gavin Higginbotham, BotF
12-30-2008, 11:55 AM
We'll see. I re-read the last three issues and still wasn't too into it.

I've not even read any of the new run yet, so I guess that's not exactly a glowing endorsement. I've flicked through the pages and the art's entertaining enough but I don't know that I care enough to read about a new Spawn. We'll see.

BrikHed21
12-30-2008, 11:58 AM
I've not even read any of the new run yet, so I guess that's not exactly a glowing endorsement. I've flicked through the pages and the art's entertaining enough but I don't know that I care enough to read about a new Spawn. We'll see.

I must now stick my foot upside your head... especially after I just said something nice about you in another thread :biggrin:. I can understand it isn't for everyone. I just gave Savage Dragon a seven issue tryout and it just didn't do it for me (then again I am tired of Obama being on half of the covers).

Gavin Higginbotham, BotF
12-30-2008, 12:02 PM
I must now stick my foot upside your head... especially after I just said something nice about you in another thread :biggrin:. I can understand it isn't for everyone. I just gave Savage Dragon a seven issue tryout and it just didn't do it for me (then again I am tired of Obama being on half of the covers).

He's been on two alternate covers out of 8 issues, but yeah, I get your point. No other guest has had that much exposure in so short a time.

And I love Spawn. I'll continue to buy any new collection that comes out and am going to stick with the regular series for at least the first year of the new creative team. I guess I just loved the previous run more than I thought and it's probably me sulking that it's changed. Once I read a good stack of this current run, I'll probably get more enthusiastic.

BrikHed21
12-30-2008, 12:04 PM
Yes we all miss the Hine/Hablerin run - that is my #1 bad moment of 2008 in the Proof thread... stop in and give us your opinions, and Image Fans are welcome you know :biggrin:

http://www.imagecomics.com/messageboard/viewtopic.php?t=44373

Greg Anderson
12-30-2008, 12:06 PM
Do check out the current run, Gavin. Don't let my dislike for it discourage you. You may very well enjoy it. Brikhed not being into Savage Dragon on the other hand is crazy.

Gavin Higginbotham, BotF
12-30-2008, 12:08 PM
Do check out the current run, Gavin. Don't let my dislike for it discourage you. You may very well enjoy it. Brikhed not being into Savage Dragon on the other hand is crazy.

As I said, I'll get around to it eventually. I like the Spawn mythos too much to dismiss it out of hand. And, of course, I agree with you about Brikhed and SD. Still, at least he's given it a go.

Greg Anderson
12-30-2008, 12:09 PM
I am hoping the LCS has BOOK OF THE DEAD when I check in today or I fear I might just be out of luck on that one :evilangry:

Hopefully you pick it up. It was a lot of fun reading through, and nice art. Loved the parts on Angela, Mammon, and Ol' Job. And the smell is addicting. :biggrin:

Greg Anderson
12-30-2008, 12:10 PM
As I said, I'll get around to it eventually. I like the Spawn mythos too much to dismiss it out of hand. And, of course, I agree with you about Brikhed and SD. Still, at least he's given it a go.

Definitely. I sadly had to drop Invincible. Great book but I was very lost, so I'll pick it up in trades. But in no way am I missing #60 with the Image crossover! :cool:

Gavin Higginbotham, BotF
12-30-2008, 12:15 PM
Definitely. I sadly had to drop Invincible. Great book but I was very lost, so I'll pick it up in trades. But in no way am I missing #60 with the Image crossover! :cool:

Yep, that bad boy looks beyond awesome. Invincible is great but I can see why you could get lost in it. It's like Savage Dragon was like in the old days when a dozen plots would run in each issue but not necessarily the same plots in each consecutive issue. Crazy!... but that's why I love them both.

Greg Anderson
12-30-2008, 12:24 PM
Yep, that bad boy looks beyond awesome. Invincible is great but I can see why you could get lost in it. It's like Savage Dragon was like in the old days when a dozen plots would run in each issue but not necessarily the same plots in each consecutive issue. Crazy!... but that's why I love them both.

The stuff with She-Dragon still haven't been brought back, her and the kidnapping and the water causing mutations! :eek:

BrikHed21
12-30-2008, 12:27 PM
Hopefully you pick it up. It was a lot of fun reading through, and nice art. Loved the parts on Angela, Mammon, and Ol' Job. And the smell is addicting. :biggrin:

Amazon is still showing it as a pre-order but I do not know if they are really getting any or not so it will be interesting to see if I find a copy, it looks amazing though



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Greg Anderson
01-03-2009, 08:43 PM
Hine read this month is Son of M! C'mon by! :smile:

BrikHed21
01-03-2009, 09:45 PM
Jin Han is out? Interesting shake-up only three issues into the NEW Spawn :confused:

Greg Anderson
01-03-2009, 11:11 PM
Whoa, what?! :eek:

bushboy
01-04-2009, 07:47 AM
WTF? What happened? Just starting to like the guy, too.

stingerman
01-04-2009, 12:24 PM
Jin Han is out? Interesting shake-up only three issues into the NEW Spawn :confused:

They should have learned their lesson from Brand New Dollar. :evilsmile:

BrikHed21
01-04-2009, 08:51 PM
I don't know what happened - Jin Han posted it himself on Spawn.com boards... weird if you ask me. Not a great start to the new run :mad:

Ullar
01-06-2009, 09:52 AM
I want to start reading Spawn but I don't want to have to read 100 plus back issues. What would be a good jumping on point?

BrikHed21
01-06-2009, 09:56 AM
I want to start reading Spawn but I don't want to have to read 100 plus back issues. What would be a good jumping on point?

#185 is a launching point for the new direction of Spawn. You might be a little lost in the beginning, but I have been reading since day one and I was a little lost.


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Greg Anderson
01-06-2009, 10:03 AM
I want to start reading Spawn but I don't want to have to read 100 plus back issues. What would be a good jumping on point?

I'll sound like a broken record but if the recent issues don't pull you, you can pick up the Armageddon trades and/or The New Flesh Collection with David Hine on writing who was fantastic on the book. Lots of people consider it probably the best run on the title.

Ullar
01-06-2009, 10:09 AM
Thanks for the suggestions. I'll check out 185 and the Hine trades.

BrikHed21
01-06-2009, 11:06 AM
I'll sound like a broken record but if the recent issues don't pull you, you can pick up the Armageddon trades and/or The New Flesh Collection with David Hine on writing who was fantastic on the book. Lots of people consider it probably the best run on the title.

I would agree that is the best run on the book but as for a good start place now #185 is the place to be :tongue: (and for the record Spawn is only on #187 right now so it is only a few issues to hunt down, Greg might give you his :eek: )

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Ullar
01-06-2009, 02:01 PM
Thanks. Is there anything I need to know about Spawn before I read #185?

BrikHed21
01-06-2009, 02:39 PM
Thanks. Is there anything I need to know about Spawn before I read #185?

Not really - there is always a summary on the inside of the front cover that updates all events to this point. I would just say after you give it a read or two feel free to come on back and ask questions. I don't want to spoil anything for you right now :wink:

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Ullar
01-06-2009, 03:37 PM
Will do.
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stingerman
01-07-2009, 01:54 AM
WTF? What happened? Just starting to like the guy, too.

How long before McFarlane bails again?

I'll give him 10 issues.

BrikHed21
01-07-2009, 06:09 AM
How long before McFarlane bails again?

I'll give him 10 issues.

I think he will be around but I have a feeling Whilce won't last :mad:

BrikHed21
01-07-2009, 06:40 AM
Some behind the scenes stuff from Spawn 187 looking at the process from pencils, through inks and then color.

http://board.spawn.com/images/board/187_BehindTheScenes.jpg

BrikHed21
01-07-2009, 06:43 AM
Double post

MartinRedmond
01-07-2009, 09:37 AM
I'm embarassed to admit I enjoy this book right now. At first I thought it would just be a brightness contrast job but noticed all the detail done with a Pshop brush. Todd does great looking stuff even with the lousy Photoshop brushes. I guess he can ink no matter what he uses. Arrrgghhh!!!

MartinRedmond
01-07-2009, 09:40 AM
Thanks. Is there anything I need to know about Spawn before I read #185?

That's where I jumped in and I've had no problem.

BrikHed21
01-07-2009, 10:14 AM
I'm embarassed to admit I enjoy this book right now. At first I thought it would just be a brightness contrast job but noticed all the detail done with a Pshop brush. Todd does great looking stuff even with the lousy Photoshop brushes. I guess he can ink no matter what he uses. Arrrgghhh!!!

Don't be embarrassed - enjoy away. It is just hard to come off the run of David Hine's writing and the direction and stop and start again in a new direction. I know 99% of all comics do this but this is the first time Spawn has been quiet this dramatic of a shift. Old timers are just grumpy (yes you Greg).

I am glad more people are giving it a chance

MartinRedmond
01-07-2009, 12:06 PM
Why? It's not like you've got anything to gain from it. I think it's enjoyable but the pacing is a little too slow.

bushboy
01-07-2009, 02:30 PM
I think he will be around but I have a feeling Whilce won't last :mad:

Which is sad since this is when I first started liking his art.

BrikHed21
01-07-2009, 02:36 PM
Which is sad since this is when I first started liking his art.

It just a guess - I am curious to see who they get on colors now that Jin Han is gone (and according to Jin Han he left on his own... should have posted something about that).