Spawn

[ColdContagious]

Yeah the latest issue really gets things moving. Not nearly as decompressed as past issues have been.

[michaeljsmith]

LOL! It's cool. I love this book myself and don't understand the dislike people have for it. Only problem I have is the issues being decompressed, but overall, it's a great and fun read. I need to pick up the recent issue, though. Maybe next week.

If it lasts up to about 15 then I might look into reading the book. Right now I am bitter big two so I try not to invest in too much of their books. I trust about half of the things Greg says about 10% of the time so I might take his word for it on this book :rolleyes:

[ColdContagious]

Simon Dark really doesn't belong in the main DCU. Its supposed to be set there, but so far we haven't seen any known DC character. It would work just as well under Vertigo, Image, or Dark Horse.

[michaeljsmith]

Simon Dark really doesn't belong in the main DCU. Its supposed to be set there, but so far we haven't seen any known DC character. It would work just as well under Vertigo, Image, or Dark Horse.

I would probably be more supportive if it were Vertigo. It is just a matter of time before Simon ends up in the DC universe somehow.

It is just like original Spawn issues in the old Image universe. Those crossovers and appearances are really painful to go back and read.

[ColdContagious]

Do Spawn and the Darkness exist in the same universe?

[michaeljsmith]

Do Spawn and the Darkness exist in the same universe?

No. Darkness is a Top Cow title which is outside of Image Universe. Right now Spawn exists in his own universe and not in the Image Universe either.

[ColdContagious]

Yeah i was just wondering cause i would think something like Armageddon would have affected the other Image titles.

[michaeljsmith]

Do Spawn and the Darkness exist in the same universe?

Really it seems like the only Image Universe titles around these days are Erik Larsen and Kirkman books (except TWD). I think Noble Causes and Dynamo 5 might also be Image U titles. I'm excited about FireBreather, I think that will be part of the Image U.

[ColdContagious]

When is FireBreather coming out? Is Hester writing?

[michaeljsmith]

When is FireBreather coming out? Is Hester writing?

I believe it is June. Yes the original team is back which makes it appealing to me.

[ColdContagious]

I might have to check that out. I'm enjoying what Hester has been doing on the Darkness.

[ColdContagious]

Oh and i checked. Fire Breather hits stands May 14th.

[michaeljsmith]

Oh and i checked. Fire Breather hits stands May 14th.

A month earlier than I thought. I recently picked up the original four issues and absolutely loved them. I dropped out of comics for a few years and it was around the time Invincible and FireBreather came out so I missed out on a few things.

Thanks for the info.

[ColdContagious]

No problem

[Greg Anderson]

No. Darkness is a Top Cow title which is outside of Image Universe. Right now Spawn exists in his own universe and not in the Image Universe either.

The Image Universe is actually quite confusing, but I like it. Larsen has explained it a few times that the Image U is much like DC and Marvel, except it doesn't restrict the writers from doing what they're doing, even if the world explodes. It's just that one character may remember and event a certain way while another in a different way. I do think Top Cow and Image share the same universe. For example, we've had the crossover with Witchblade and if I remember, I did read a book that had WB, Spawn, and a few other heroes together as a team. I know I'm not dreaming, I read it when I was younger!

But yeah, recently Spawn crossover with Ant, which is no longer Image, but it shows us that Image does have a verse with other characters as Ant also met up with Savage Dragon an issue or so before and Spawn and the Dragon have met on occasion.

[michaeljsmith]

Please don't remind me of the Medievel Spawn Witchblade book. Wow not that one again.

[ColdContagious]

Well ive decided to drop Simon Dark. After looking at July solicits, i gotta start cutting books that i can pick up in trade.

[Greg Anderson]

Please don't remind me of the Medievel Spawn Witchblade book. Wow not that one again.

http://www.gatewaycomics.com/catalog/images/VC_medievalspawnwitchblade1plat.jpg

:smile:

[Greg Anderson]

Well ive decided to drop Simon Dark. After looking at July solicits, i gotta start cutting books that i can pick up in trade.

Sad to hear that. I'm still debating if I'll drop it, though. But I'm loving the horror aspects of the book, so I may stay.

Speaking of July solits and horror, David Hine is writing Two-Face for his first DC book in that Joker Asylum thingy-thing!!! WOOHOO!!!! :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:

[ColdContagious]

Well i'm gonna pick up Fire Breather in may

[michaeljsmith]

Well ive decided to drop Simon Dark. After looking at July solicits, i gotta start cutting books that i can pick up in trade.

You are single handed kill this book by dropping it. The book will get cancelled and it will be you fault ;)

What books are on your pull list? You better say Spawn or I will hunt you down.

[ColdContagious]

Lol i havent officially added Spawn yet but i will. I do like Simon Dark, i just want to try out a new series or two. I can always get Simon in trade.

[ColdContagious]

I know this probably isn't cool around here but i'm a big Marvel guy. I'm learning to branch out though.

[ColdContagious]

I'll give Simon until around issue # 10 before i decide for sure. I really want to see the conclusion of the Cult storyline.

[Greg Anderson]

I know this probably isn't cool around here but i'm a big Marvel guy. I'm learning to branch out though.

I don't see how it's not cool. If you're enjoying their books, then enjoy them! :smile:

[michaeljsmith]

I know this probably isn't cool around here but i'm a big Marvel guy. I'm learning to branch out though.

You can see from my signature block I have 3 Marvel books on my pull list. If the stories are working for you then go with them.

Let's be series Spawn is my favorite series ever, not too many places where that is cool at all ;)

[ColdContagious]

By July will my pull list will be :

Ghost Rider - Jason Aaron is really revitalizing this book.
Incredible Hercules - I love the mixture of action, humor and myth.
Skaar: Son of Hulk - Another Greg Pak written epic.
Eternals - Missed the Gaiman mini, but the concept looks interesting
Thor - Moving slow, but i enjoy god type heroes.
Detective Comics - Paul Dini writes great self contained stories
Batman: Gotham After Midnight - Excited to see how Steve Niles handles Batman
The Twelve - JMS has really made me care about these forgotten heroes.
Spawn - I'm taking Brikhed's word and giving this book another go.
Fire Breather - Enjoyed the original.
Punisher MAX - I'll miss Ennis, but i'm staying with the book.
Ultimate Spider-Man - The only good Spider-Man around IMO
The Darkness - I got hooked from playing the game. Hester is doing good so far.
Simon Dark - We will see about this one

[Greg Anderson]

Incredible Hercules is what pains me from ding Marvel. That was great and I was really interested in what could be done with the Greek myths, but it seems like that book will be FILLED with mandates and constant crosses, etc. :frown:

Detective Comics also pains me. I've loved all of Dini's issues so far, so I'm on the fence about this one. But I'm sure this book will be tied into the upcoming events. :mad:

[michaeljsmith]

Incredible Hercules is what pains me from ding Marvel. That was great and I was really interested in what could be done with the Greek myths, but it seems like that book will be FILLED with mandates and constant crosses, etc. :frown:
I could not get into this book but I associate it with the terrible ending to World War Hulk. Maybe that is what we can refer to Armagedon.... World War Spawn :tongue:


Detective Comics also pains me. I've loved all of Dini's issues so far, so I'm on the fence about this one. But I'm sure this book will be tied into the upcoming events. :mad:
I do not think it is a "direct" tie-in to Batman: RIP, but we will see.

[7teen]

I know this probably isn't cool around here but i'm a big Marvel guy. I'm learning to branch out though.

I beleive that you have to broaden your horrizon. It's better that you have "choices" so you can enjoy reading comics no matter who the publisher is

[MadMan22]

Hey BrikHed, i was thinking of picking up Invincible. I know it has a habit for being late. Has Kirkman said anyhting about the shipping schedule picking up after issue 50?

[michaeljsmith]

Hey BrikHed, i was thinking of picking up Invincible. I know it has a habit for being late. Has Kirkman said anyhting about the shipping schedule picking up after issue 50?

The rumor is that it is back to monthly just after #50. They actually stopped the solicitations so they could get caught up.... here is some information on the release of #50

Rasdock: Here's what Kirkman had to say in his mass email:

Quote:
"In comics news--Invincible 50 is FINALLY DONE and should be off to the printers this week. I can only hope it's worth the delay when you get it. Ryan and I think it's quite awesome. The Science Dog back-up is totally sweet, too. I'm always excited to see that guy in print. It will be in stores in MAY, look for it. The much-delayed (sigh) INVINCIBLE volume 9 TPB will be in stores around the same time, I believe."

[ColdContagious]

I'll be picking up Invincible. I'm gonna replace Detective with it. Also you and Greg should be happy to know that ive decided to keep picking up Simon Dark. I'm kinda attatched to the book at this point.

[michaeljsmith]

I'll be picking up Invincible. I'm gonna replace Detective with it. Also you and Greg should be happy to know that ive decided to keep picking up Simon Dark. I'm kinda attatched to the book at this point.

I just can't let go of Detective - the upcoming HUSH run looks good, call me crazy....but as I feel obligated to get back on track for all of those patrons of the SPAWN thread.

Next week (23rd) we get to see Bubble Boy again :evilsmile:

http://www.spawn.com/comics/Spawn/monthly/images/spawn_comic_cover_177_cl.jpg

[michaeljsmith]

What is the BIG NEWS our of New York Comic Con this year?

ImageComics.com

Furthermore, this years' Image Comics Show (Saturday at 2-3 PM, ROOM: 1E16) features three generations of Image creators discussing the rise of creator owned comics and what it means for the future of the industry. Panelists include Image founders, Erik Larsen & Jim Valentino, DYNAMO 5's Jay Faerber and newer names such as AMORY WARS' Claudio Sanchez & HAZED's Mark Sable. It wouldn't be an Image Comics Show without a number of announcements, including the biggest change on SPAWN since Todd McFarlane left the title.

[michaeljsmith]

...there are no big hints in the solicitation for issue #183, then again there is also no mention of Al. So who is the mystery man behind it all? Cane/Cog maybe?

SPAWN #183 http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0804/18/spawn183th.jpg (http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0804/18/spawn183.htm)
Written by David Hine, art and cover by Brian Haberlin.
In this issue: The most stunning revelation ever seen in the pages of Spawn! Behind the scenes of human history, one man has been pulling the strings. Now at last, Mammon's plans come to deadly fruition.

[michaeljsmith]

Quote:
A major, but secretive announcement, came when Keatinge revealed a brand new creative team will be taking over Spawn—both of whom are former Image founders.

"One of them is a guy who hasn't been doing work with us for about 10 years," said Keatinge. "Sorry, I'm not allowed [to say who]. I was told I was going to get shot."


http://www.wizarduniverse.com/041908nyccimagepanel.html

How long has Todd been gone? New creative TEAM? So I would assume that David Hine is out? That would be a shame he has done great work. Looks like it is a done deal... Todd is writing and Rob is drawing Spawn http://board.spawn.com/forums/images/smilies/eek.gif

[michaeljsmith]

Quote:



http://www.wizarduniverse.com/041908nyccimagepanel.html

How long has Todd been gone? New creative TEAM? So I would assume that David Hine is out? That would be a shame he has done great work. Looks like it is a done deal... Todd is writing and Rob is drawing Spawn http://board.spawn.com/forums/images/smilies/eek.gif


Image Comics was originally founded by seven artists:
(1) Erik Larsen - publisher by day - so I doubt this one
(2) Jim Lee - left in 1998 - 10 years hmmmm that was a hint
(3) Rob Liefeld - please no please no
(4) Todd McFarlane - I have to think this is a possibility
(5) Whilce Portacio - mmmmm doubt it but maybe
(6) Marc Silvestri - Top Cow, so I doubt it
(7) Jim Valentino - Shadowline, so I doubt this one

Of those seven founders, only six opted to become full partners: Larsen, Lee, Liefeld, McFarlane, Silvestri, and Valentino.

[GRANT!]

Image Comics was originally founded by seven artists:
(1) Erik Larsen - publisher by day - so I doubt this one
(2) Jim Lee - left in 1998 - 10 years hmmmm that was a hint
(3) Rob Liefeld - please no please no
(4) Todd McFarlane - I have to think this is a possibility
(5) Whilce Portacio - mmmmm doubt it but maybe
(6) Marc Silvestri - Top Cow, so I doubt it
(7) Jim Valentino - Shadowline, so I doubt this one

Of those seven founders, only six opted to become full partners: Larsen, Lee, Liefeld, McFarlane, Silvestri, and Valentino.

Whilce actually seems like the best fit. He isn't doing anything right now and he left Image in 1998 and Jim Lee is DC exclusive (he's like a VP or something).

[Punisher37]

There is a reason that i think it may be McFarlane. Awhile ago, Robert Kirkman challenged him to start doing more comics. McFarlane may figure a good way to start is going back to the book that made him famous.

[michaeljsmith]

There is a reason that i think it may be McFarlane. Awhile ago, Robert Kirkman challenged him to start doing more comics. McFarlane may figure a good way to start is going back to the book that made him famous.

I am sure McFarlane is ONE of them - but the story says the new team and BOTH are former founders.... based on that who is the other?

Unfortunately that comment was almost two years ago I believe and still nothing. The two are working together on The Haunt with Kirkman writing it and McFarlane doing the covers.... no artist named to this point.

[michaeljsmith]

Looks like the new team is both art and writing - below is a notes from the current team. I still cannot recommend this book enough and I think everyone would be crazy not to see how this fabulous run ends....


A NOTE FROM DAVID AND BRIAN

The news is out.

There’s a new creative team coming to Spawn. As announced at New York ComicCon, two of the original Image founders will be taking over the reins of Spawn later this year. That means that our run on Spawn will be coming to an end. We’ve known this was coming for a while. The reaction to the new-look Spawn has been amazing and we’re proud of what we’ve done with the book. The fans on the Spawn message board and across the internet community have been terrific, spreading the word that Spawn is a cool book to be seen with. Thank you all for the support you’ve given us.

But Todd felt it was time for a change…so with issue 185 there will be a whole new direction to Spawn and a superstar team to write and draw the book. Meanwhile though, the good news is that Todd has given us all the time we need to tie up the threads of the plot we’ve been laying down since Armageddon. Over the next six months you’ll be seeing how Mammon’s nefarious plans come to fruition and the earth-shaking effect those plans will have on Al, Wanda, Nyx and the whole damned Spawn Universe. We’re planning to go out on a high note with real MUST READ issues and we hope you’ll stay along for the ride.

Brian and Dave

[Punisher37]

Time for a change? I'm guessing that Todd wants to take the book back to more of its superhero roots and away from the horror genre. This could be good or bad. Either way, i'll stick around to find out.

[michaeljsmith]

I hope that it is not back to superhero - the main guess is Todd writing and Portacio on the art.... I have been there since day one so I will make it through change as well.

Spawn will never die :evilsmile:

[Punisher37]

I've been a fan off and on throughout the years. This change doesn't make sense to me though. Wasn't the book on a sales upswing since David and Brian took over?

[Greg Anderson]

Hey, guys! Went to the con on Saturday and BOY did I have a blast! I met Brian and Erik Larsen and they were both so awesome. I chatted with Brian about Spawn and it's future and he even ripped out a page from his sketch book and gave it to me! :eek: Heh, he also showed me the original pages for the next issue which look BEAUTIFUL in person. Just great stuff. And since Dave is taking long to re-introduce The Redeemer back into the book, I asked Brian to draw Redeemer for me. :)

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/xeero0/RedeemerbyBrianHaberline.jpg

The last person I met was Erik Larsen who was SUPER-nice. I bought Savage Dragon Archives #2 and got him to sign it for me, so woohoo! I finally get to read about the Dragon! I asked him if Spawn will be showing up in the book soon because of the Image Tour SD is currently going on and all I can say is that great stuff is coming ahead for the book, I'm not sure I'm allowed to say. ;) I asked Erik to sketch me a Spawn and it came out awesome!

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/xeero0/SpawnbyEricLarsen.jpg

I also met Jay Faerber and Mahmud Asrar who does Dynamo 5 and Yildiray Cinar who draws Faerber's Noble Causes and they were great also. Later in the day when I stood in the Larsen line, I chatted more with Asrar and Cinar and they were fun to talk to, even though they held up the Larsen line for quite a bit, heh. But it was only a few minutes, really. Great guys.

Also picked up a lot more Indy stuff, such as The Perhapanauts and Screamland which were FANTASTIC reads among other kick ass Indy stuff, like Mark Sable's Grounded who showed me all the original pages for part 1 of his upcoming Two-Face: Year One book coming out this summer. Also picked up Mice Templar which I've yet to read. All the books I bought I made sure to get signed.

You guys could see all the sketches I got here...

http://forum.newsarama.com/showpost.php?p=5445587&postcount=30

[Punisher37]

Nice. So does that mean we will see the Redeemer soon?

[michaeljsmith]

I've been a fan off and on throughout the years. This change doesn't make sense to me though. Wasn't the book on a sales upswing since David and Brian took over?

Nope - heading the wrong direction and that is the main reason for the change (Hine took over at 150)

http://image.wetpaint.com/image/1/BaFIQmUJxsVMxIr1ANEKug47334/GW839H495

[michaeljsmith]

Greg - remind me to tell you that you are a PUNK. You could have thrown a brother a bone and got Brian to sketch a little something for me too. I doubt that he will be making it to Chicago.

I see how we are :evilsmile:

[Punisher37]

Oh damn. I guess most people do prefer the superhero Spawn.

[michaeljsmith]

Oh damn. I guess most people do prefer the superhero Spawn.

Please don't ask me to expand the chart back further than I already did - it gets really depressing. The book is underappreciated, not much more I can say than that. Everyone remembers issue #1 and most have not read it since issue #50 - they all have an opinion though.

[Greg Anderson]

Greg - remind me to tell you that you are a PUNK. You could have thrown a brother a bone and got Brian to sketch a little something for me too. I doubt that he will be making it to Chicago.

I see how we are :evilsmile:

Aww, man, dude! You shoulda asked! :redface:

Why don't you shoot him a PM or something? :smile:

[stingerman]

Oh damn. I guess most people do prefer the superhero Spawn.

I think it sucks. I liked Hine's writing. It better not be Liefield. No way.

[michaeljsmith]

I think it sucks. I liked Hine's writing. It better not be Liefield. No way.

The common guesses are:

(1) McFarlane (writing) | Portacio (art) - the most likely
(2) McFarlane (writing) | Lee (art) - this is just fanboy talk
(3) Valtino (wirting) | Portacio (art) - doubtful due to Shadowline
(4) Valtino (writing) | McFarlane (art) - again doubtful due to Shadowline

[Chintzy Beatnik]

This new creative team stuff annoys me.

I finally got around to picking up issues by David Hine and found them to be pretty interesting. If it's going to be Portacio on art I think I probably won't be getting the series again. Never cared much for his art.

[michaeljsmith]

This new creative team stuff annoys me.

I finally got around to picking up issues by David Hine and found them to be pretty interesting. If it's going to be Portacio on art I think I probably won't be getting the series again. Never cared much for his art.

The sad thing is Hine has done amazing things for this book so we will have to wait and see at this point. The rest is all guessing by us webboard fanboys... none of us have a clue.

[stingerman]

The sad thing is Hine has done amazing things for this book so we will have to wait and see at this point. The rest is all guessing by us webboard fanboys... none of us have a clue.

Well, whoever takes it over I hope they keep with the horror element theme.

[michaeljsmith]

If nothing else it is raising the discussion....



TOMORROW - SPAWN #176 & GODSLAYER #8 (final issue)

Get out there and support the books - then come back here and talk them up....

[michaeljsmith]

Here is an interview with CBR, I am sure we will all have something to say about this...

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?p...ticle&id=16143 (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=16143)

[stingerman]

I noticed this. Not too sure if I will still be getting it. I'll try it though: :frown:

"but also to come up with a fairly radical new direction for the book that says to our readers this won’t be more of the same with pretty pictures, but we’re literally going to turn this thing sideways, or at least on its head, and give you something you haven’t seen for 180 issues."

and

"The first immediate goal is to send a message that we’re not kidding around. We’re truly going to head off in a different direction. "

[stingerman]

Sometimes word cannot describe how you are feeling:

http://www.bringbackwendell.com/spawnomd.jpg

[SpideyZERO]

I noticed this. Not too sure if I will still be getting it. I'll try it though: :frown:

"but also to come up with a fairly radical new direction for the book that says to our readers this won’t be more of the same with pretty pictures, but we’re literally going to turn this thing sideways, or at least on its head, and give you something you haven’t seen for 180 issues."

and

"The first immediate goal is to send a message that we’re not kidding around. We’re truly going to head off in a different direction. "
New different direction? Spawn has gone from superhero to horror, now to what? A comedy?

[michaeljsmith]

Sometimes word cannot describe how you are feeling:



That is amazing - saw your post on Spawn.com as well - good stuff. I am a little unhappy about this new direction, but then again I don't know what the new direction is at this point. The announcement is there will be an announcement.

If somehow this is Jim Lee art or even Todd McFarlane art then it will jump sales and the visual appeal of the book. I just cannot imagine that the writing will get better. I personally think that the reason this change will not happen for 8 months is because the new team is already working on the new stuff. All of the prior Image founders were always late so they are giving themselves 8 months to get caught up before they even start.

[GRANT!]

That is amazing - saw your post on Spawn.com as well - good stuff. I am a little unhappy about this new direction, but then again I don't know what the new direction is at this point. The announcement is there will be an announcement.

If somehow this is Jim Lee art or even Todd McFarlane art then it will jump sales and the visual appeal of the book. I just cannot imagine that the writing will get better. I personally think that the reason this change will not happen for 8 months is because the new team is already working on the new stuff. All of the prior Image founders were always late so they are giving themselves 8 months to get caught up before they even start.

Larsen and Valentino were pretty good about deadlines. Spawn for a while was the only Image book that shipped on time.

[michaeljsmith]

Larsen and Valentino were pretty good about deadlines. Spawn for a while was the only Image book that shipped on time.

Spawn is about 40 issues ahead of Savage Dragon. I know Spawn got a head start but not by 4 years... so the book has been fairly timely since the inception. There are a couple of years of 10 issues instead of 12 but all-in-all it is reliable.

[stingerman]

That is amazing - saw your post on Spawn.com as well - good stuff. I am a little unhappy about this new direction, but then again I don't know what the new direction is at this point. The announcement is there will be an announcement.

If somehow this is Jim Lee art or even Todd McFarlane art then it will jump sales and the visual appeal of the book. I just cannot imagine that the writing will get better. I personally think that the reason this change will not happen for 8 months is because the new team is already working on the new stuff. All of the prior Image founders were always late so they are giving themselves 8 months to get caught up before they even start.

In the article they said its either Lee or Portacio. Isn't Lee under contract with DC though?

[michaeljsmith]

In the article they said its either Lee or Portacio. Isn't Lee under contract with DC though?

I believe that is a misconception with Lee - I know he is doing a cover for some other book in the near future (it is escaping me). We does work for DC and holds a title that affords his name to be printed in the cover of just about every single issue they print but I don't believe it is "under exclusive contract" with them. I really think he is guilt by assocition since he sold WildStorm to them (big mistake on a side note).

[michaeljsmith]

To say this issue was a little bit of a let down would be an understatement. I wanted to see Kenny die. Die a horrible and painful death. I wanted to see Al rip him off his head and crap down his neck. I wanted to see Al full of rage and anger. Instead Kenny gets to decide how he dies and walks outside? I like the Mammon build up and I am now blinded by David/Brian's way of killing a man - breast will never seem the same to me again but this book lacked a little something.

Al crying Wanda in the alley is more of a man than him in the end. Poor me I want to die now. Nyxx needs to open her purse and give him back his balls or something because he seems to have become less of a man since they have been together.

That said the art was great and the color was much cleaner than the last issue - but I don't know if that is a good thing to be honest.

I do believe we are about to witness an incredible ride leading up to the end of this run and I am psyched for it. This story arc did very little for me at this point. I hope it is a building block for greater things but right now I would rate this book AVERAGE in the expectations I have for Hine/Hablerin.

http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/8301/spawngoodbyezx2.jpg

[GRANT!]

Spawn is about 40 issues ahead of Savage Dragon. I know Spawn got a head start but not by 4 years... so the book has been fairly timely since the inception. There are a couple of years of 10 issues instead of 12 but all-in-all it is reliable.

Spawn did go biweekly for a while (Tony Daniel was drawing alternate issues).

Dragon fell off track once Larsen became publisher. But he used to hit 10 issues a year on regular basis. Which is impressive considering he still writes and draws the book. Spawn has hit some delays as well. There was the time issues 19-25 came out of order.

Also I think a bunch of issues were resolicited before issue 150 because the book was four months.

But yeah compared to other Image books Spawn and Dragon had the mor reliable schedule.

[michaeljsmith]

Spawn did go biweekly for a while (Tony Daniel was drawing alternate issues).

Dragon fell off track once Larsen became publisher. But he used to hit 10 issues a year on regular basis. Which is impressive considering he still writes and draws the book. Spawn has hit some delays as well. There was the time issues 19-25 came out of order.

Also I think a bunch of issues were resolicited before issue 150 because the book was four months.

But yeah compared to other Image books Spawn and Dragon had the mor reliable schedule.

I am in no way bashing Dragon - the book is amazing and in my Too 5 Image books ever.

Tony Daniel? I don't remember this - do you know what issues? I have collected every issue and for the life of me I don't remember this or him on any issues.

[JayC]

I've always thought Spawn looked REALLY cool - when I was just a young kid in the 90's I remember Spawn being a really big deal, too. However, I never, ever read it... I wasn't into comics at all then.

Is Spawn in Trade's now? If so, where is the beginning? Do we have a list of all that somewhere?

Where can I get a bit of background info about Spawn, etc. ? Wikipedia I guess?

I saw the movie and it was cool but have no idea if it's anything related to the story written version, etc.

Thanks!

[JimmyDee]

In the article they said its either Lee or Portacio. Isn't Lee under contract with DC though?
No, they didn't say it would be either Lee or Portacio -- it's a good bet it could be one or the other, but they didn't say it would be one of the two.

As for Lee being under contract, look, he's Jim Lee. Unless it would be seriously detrimental to DC Comics in some way, I don't think there's much telling Jim what he should or should not do, not at this stage of his career.

[stingerman]

No, they didn't say it would be either Lee or Portacio -- it's a good bet it could be one or the other, but they didn't say it would be one of the two.

As for Lee being under contract, look, he's Jim Lee. Unless it would be seriously detrimental to DC Comics in some way, I don't think there's much telling Jim what he should or should not do, not at this stage of his career.

I thought in the article it said it had to be someone who hasn't worked for Image in ten years and they are the only two that fit the bill. Wrong?

[GRANT!]

Do Spawn and the Darkness exist in the same universe?

They both teamed up with Witchblade so I say yes.

[GRANT!]

No, they didn't say it would be either Lee or Portacio -- it's a good bet it could be one or the other, but they didn't say it would be one of the two.

As for Lee being under contract, look, he's Jim Lee. Unless it would be seriously detrimental to DC Comics in some way, I don't think there's much telling Jim what he should or should not do, not at this stage of his career.

The guy also has a full plate. Ditto Rob Liefeld who's got two books in the work.

[GRANT!]

I am in no way bashing Dragon - the book is amazing and in my Too 5 Image books ever.

Tony Daniel? I don't remember this - do you know what issues? I have collected every issue and for the life of me I don't remember this or him on any issues.

Issues 38, 40, 42, 44, 46, 48.

[alexr]

Man, I miss McFarlane pencils. Inspired me to get into the industry... though I put that on hold for a while after High School.

I don't think he likes to pencil, so he'd be doing the inking for sure. I think it's easier for him.

[Greg Anderson]

I've always thought Spawn looked REALLY cool - when I was just a young kid in the 90's I remember Spawn being a really big deal, too. However, I never, ever read it... I wasn't into comics at all then.

Is Spawn in Trade's now? If so, where is the beginning? Do we have a list of all that somewhere?

Where can I get a bit of background info about Spawn, etc. ? Wikipedia I guess?

I saw the movie and it was cool but have no idea if it's anything related to the story written version, etc.

Thanks!

Hey, man, welcome. TMP have been releasing the first issues in collections, usually 12 issues or so. They're packaged quite well. I would suggest picking up the Armageddon trade(s) and then the New Flesh collection which are basically the recent story lines and can help you get up to date with all the current stuff happening. And I do believe wikipedia have quite a good bit of info on the character(s) of the story.

[Greg Anderson]

Spawn 177...

Stupid ass Kenny!! Instead of him walking out, I wish Al teleported into that damn box and have him inhale Al's essence, that annoying prick.

But yes, good issue. Wasn't great, but it's obvious Mammon's plans are slowly progressing. Marc recognized him and hopefully in the next issue or so we get some character driven stuff between Marc and Al since there wasn't much "family time" the last two issues. So Al's lost his edge and reason to fight, so who know has that passion? We know Nyx's powers have been growing while Al has gotten weaker. Richard is now in Hell. Al's mom is with Cloak and Mammon.

Damn, why can't this run be longer? :(

Spawn: Godslayer...

Good issue. You can tell it was rushed, but what the hell! It still went out in a blazing heat of glory and a bang! The art was great and the revelation of Dromo's motive was great and a good twist that I would not have seen coming. And of course the lettering that I'm always praising. Oh, letterer, how I shall miss you. :( Damn it, and the afterword made me sad also. Damn it, why didn't anyone buy this freakin' book!! :mad: I really hope we get a continuation with this book soon. :(

[michaeljsmith]

Issues 38, 40, 42, 44, 46, 48.

Thanks - I don't know how I forgot about those but I just pulled out the issues and there is it in front of me.... that is great insight. Appreciate the knowledge.

[stingerman]

Man, I miss McFarlane pencils. Inspired me to get into the industry... though I put that on hold for a while after High School.

I don't think he likes to pencil, so he'd be doing the inking for sure. I think it's easier for him.

I think from the article he said he is going to be the editor.

Anybody play the Spawn:Armageddon video game? Any good?

[Greg Anderson]

I think from the article he said he is going to be the editor.

Anybody play the Spawn:Armageddon video game? Any good?

It wasn't a great game but I enjoyed the hell out of it, mostly due to being a Spawn fan. It was great using all his different powers and finding ways to use them to your advantage with the power ups you got, etc. I nearly beat the game in one day as I gave up when I got beat by the final boss. But I know you can get this game really cheap now, for like 10 dollars. If you could find it for that much, definitely check it out. Don't expect to be blown away at all though. It's just cool to pass on time.

[michaeljsmith]

It is never too early to start looking towards the next issue - and this is going to feature the return of our two favorite detectives... Sam & Twitch.

SPAWN
MONTHLY SERIES
ISSUE 178 | MAY 2008
http://www.spawn.com/comics/images/tab_comics_header_credits.gif
STORYDavid Hine
LETTERSTom Orzechowski
COVERBrian Haberlin, Greg Capullo
COLORSAndy Troy
INKSBrian Haberlin
PENCILSBrian Haberlin

http://www.spawn.com/comics/images/tab_comics_header_summary.gif
Sam and Twitch return to investigate a series of murders by an amnesiac vampire. The entire episode is told through the eyes of the vampire as he struggles to recall his unholy mission. Possibly the most off-beat Spawn story you will ever read.

http://www.spawn.com/comics/Spawn/monthly/images/spawn_comic_cover_178_cl.jpg

[stingerman]

It wasn't a great game but I enjoyed the hell out of it, mostly due to being a Spawn fan. It was great using all his different powers and finding ways to use them to your advantage with the power ups you got, etc. I nearly beat the game in one day as I gave up when I got beat by the final boss. But I know you can get this game really cheap now, for like 10 dollars. If you could find it for that much, definitely check it out. Don't expect to be blown away at all though. It's just cool to pass on time.

Yeah, saw it in the used bin. Maybe, Ill give it a try.

[Greg Anderson]

Not much activity here today, so I'll post these up here due to Brik's last post. :)

http://image.comicvine.com:8000/item/4000/3388/86303-twitch-williams_400.jpghttp://image.comicvine.com:8000/item/4000/3387/15160-sam-burke_400.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Chamber/9572/images/spcom3.jpg

:cool:

[michaeljsmith]

I don't know about everyone else but with the news that Brian and David are on their way out I cannot wait for their upcoming issues - I just know without question this is going to be an incredible run. I hope the new team brings new readers to Spawn and gets the book back in the TOP 50 ----- but I so will miss these guys.

http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/8301/spawngoodbyezx2.jpg

[Greg Anderson]

Yeeeaaah, I know I may sound prude or selfish or whatever, but at this point I don't care if it makes the top 50 because I just want to read a darn good book, and I felt that good solid read was being provided well with the HnH team. As long as the book does good enough to continue, I'm okay. I can understand wanting hype to bring the sales back up, though, or wanting a new direction, but I'm still heartbroken. :frown:

I've a feeling, though, even with this new team, the sales will at first blast off only to go down again like always. People will always have a hate on for this book no matter the team it seems now, I'm afraid.

I'll continue to support because this is a character and book I've adored for years. Shame people hate it so, but whatev. Least we're enjoying. :smile:

Ugh...Brian and Dave..... :frown:

[michaeljsmith]

Yeah - my only concern with TOP 50 is I just want the book to continue to live. Then again if the stories suck and the art is terrible then I would just assume the book die. It is just sad to see how bad the book is doing right now with the best team ever to put it out.

[Greg Anderson]

Sadly, that's the reality with tons of great books out there when they're not from the Big 2. For example: Hellblazer. Sure, it's under Vertigo which is under DC, but it's not part of the "DC" universe and hardly anyone cares for the book despite how fantastic it is. And from what I understand, the sales have always been really low for this book.

[michaeljsmith]

Sadly, that's the reality with tons of great books out there when they're not from the Big 2. For example: Hellblazer. Sure, it's under Vertigo which is under DC, but it's not part of the "DC" universe and hardly anyone cares for the book despite how fantastic it is. And from what I understand, the sales have always been really low for this book.

Yes but I don't believe that Hellblazer is ever in consideration to be canned. It has always had a small cult following and will continue along that path. I was shocked to see how low the readership for Hellblazer really is these days.

The comic book market is small much smaller and the competition of dollars is very intense. Once a book reaches issue #50 it is time to reset. The Outsiders is a perfect example. Decent enough book, I liked it as a nice alternative to the rest of the DC team books. As soon as it hits #50 time to rebrand Batman & The Outsiders. It saw incredible sales for the first couple of issues and now it is sliding.

[Punisher37]

So in regards to the most recent issue, i can see how Spawn's feeling of worth may be at a low right now, but with Hell beginning to break through the cracks again, wouldn't the world need him the most right now?

[Greg Anderson]

So in regards to the most recent issue, i can see how Spawn's feeling of worth may be at a low right now, but with Hell beginning to break through the cracks again, wouldn't the world need him the most right now?

That's the problem with our boy, Al. He easily gets persuaded and tricked. Poor guy. :redface:

[michaeljsmith]

So in regards to the most recent issue, i can see how Spawn's feeling of worth may be at a low right now, but with Hell beginning to break through the cracks again, wouldn't the world need him the most right now?

That is one of the things about Al that I can't figure out right now. One minute Al doesn't want to save anyone and doesn't care about the world. The next he is trying to save Manga-chic from being hurt.

I really don't understand his motivation or desires right now.

[Punisher37]

I'm hoping that it has been done intentionally, as part of a bigger character arc by Hine.

[michaeljsmith]

I'm hoping that it has been done intentionally, as part of a bigger character arc by Hine.

We will just have to see. I do think it has been an evolution of becoming a more caring and gentle Spawn.... hence the crying at the end of the last issue (or whatever wimpy thing he was doing). Time for Al to "man-up"

[Greg Anderson]

You mean the end of 176? Nah, that wasn't tears.

[michaeljsmith]

You mean the end of 176? Nah, that wasn't tears.

No I meant #177 - "oh poor me I want to die". What was that crap?

[Greg Anderson]

No I meant #177 - "oh poor me I want to die". What was that crap?

Meh, just Al being Al. The ghost of Al Simmons needs to come back, call him a pussy and smack him back into his senses.

[Punisher37]

Yeah, Al has kinda bitched out lately. I really wanna see him go nuts on a villain again. like in the old days.

[michaeljsmith]

Yeah, Al has kinda bitched out lately. I really wanna see him go nuts on a villain again. like in the old days.

I miss the old days of AL going "ape-shit" on everyone.

[Greg Anderson]

Back when Al wasn't holding back and went "ape-shit" when he was annoyed even the slightest.

http://www.angelfire.com/on2/snakesdomain/images/BillyKincaid.JPG

[michaeljsmith]

...let's see Al finally "cut-lose"

http://www.geocities.com/axel2sa/images2/spawn9.jpg

[michaeljsmith]

Cyan as the new Spawn? All grown up and ready to avenge her friend Al? I think the cover with the female Spawn for #183 is just misleading us all; let's face it 90% the cover of Spawn has nothing to do with what is on the inside.

[Chintzy Beatnik]

let's face it 90% the cover of Spawn has nothing to do with what is on the inside.

I always take a long and hard look at the issue based solely on the cover, so it works if the point is to get you to pick it up.

Of course its taken me months to actually buy an issue.

[michaeljsmith]

I always take a long and hard look at the issue based solely on the cover, so it works if the point is to get you to pick it up.

Of course its taken me months to actually buy an issue.

I must admit that past year or so SPAWN has done a better job of having the cover reflect the story. The old days were some goofy pose of Spawn and nothing about the story,..

[michaeljsmith]

It has been abnormally quiet throughout all of Spawn-land since the recent "new team" announcement. I will be curious to see the support Hine and Haberlin continue to receive as they rock Al's world for the rest of this year.

[michaeljsmith]

OK that is two covers in a row, so who is the mystery chic going to turn out to be?

http://www.comicbookresources.com/images/cons/eccc2008/image/spawn184.jpg

[anomaly]

It looks to me like a female spawn.


BTW
Has there been a female hellspawn?

[michaeljsmith]

We all agree that it is a female Spawn but who is it?

(a) Wanda - Al's ex-wife and supposedly a character that is supposed to die soon
(b) Nyx - Al's current girlfriend/partner and a witch
(c) Al's Mom - a Satanic worshipper that has been in this with Mammon the whole time
(d) some other chic

...and YES there has been a female Spawn. When Nyx first met Al she was working with Mammon and used her witch powers to steal Al's powers so that she could go to Hell and try to free a friend.

[Thamuz]

I've never gotten to read any Spawn comic's before, but when I was browsing Spawn.com's action figure section I came across somebody called "Grave Digger".

Who is this monster?

Is he good, or evil?

Was he hard for Spawn to deal with?

He just really stand's out to me. He look's awesome.

[michaeljsmith]

I've never gotten to read any Spawn comic's before, but when I was browsing Spawn.com's action figure section I came across somebody called "Grave Digger".

Who is this monster?

Is he good, or evil?

Was he hard for Spawn to deal with?

He just really stand's out to me. He look's awesome.

Actually most of the characters listed in the action figure section are not real characters from the book. They come up with some amazing concepts and designs there but the vast majority never make there way to the pages of the books. Gunslinger Spawn is really the first person to cross-over from action figure to book.

To my knowledge Grave Digger is one of those many characters to only be an action figure....

http://www.spawn.com/toys/spawn/series28/gravedigger2/images/series28_gravedigger2_photo_04_dp.jpg

[Thamuz]

Actually most of the characters listed in the action figure section are not real characters from the book. They come up with some amazing concepts and designs there but the vast majority never make there way to the pages of the books. Gunslinger Spawn is really the first person to cross-over from action figure to book.

To my knowledge Grave Digger is one of those many characters to only be an action figure....

http://www.spawn.com/toys/spawn/series28/gravedigger2/images/series28_gravedigger2_photo_04_dp.jpg

Well, thank's anyway for clearing that up for me. :)

I'm going to try to find Spawn: Book of the Dead.

[michaeljsmith]

Well, thank's anyway for clearing that up for me. :)

I'm going to try to find Spawn: Book of the Dead.

Unfortunately it is not out yet :eek: well overdue. If you are looking to get into reading the series I would suggest picking up The New Flesh Collection in trade and then there is another trade due out in a month or so and you would be caught up.

[Greg Anderson]

Damn, that Grave Digger looks awesome! :eek:

And definitely pick up Book of the Dead when it comes out, I believe it's suppose to be out this month... right? :confused: I think later this month. David Hine's writing, so it's a must buy. :biggrin:

[Punisher37]

Id love for the new creative team to occasionally choose a figure and take the time to flesh out the character, and insert them into the main Spawn book. Spawn has a gargantuan list of villians and supporting characters in action figure form that have yet to be fully realized.

[Colossus77]

Hope no one minds me asking if its been asked already but there are way too many pages to read. Which issue did David Hine began to write this book? I want to pick it up from the beginning.

[Greg Anderson]

Hope no one minds me asking if its been asked already but there are way too many pages to read. Which issue did David Hine began to write this book? I want to pick it up from the beginning.

He started writing in issue 150. Philip Tan also started pencilling in that issue. Their issues together was the Armageddon arc. It's been collected in two trades, and also there's a really large collection that collects the whole arc, which I believe was thirteen issues.

[michaeljsmith]

...and my mom never thought I would amount to anything!!!!

Here is a great interview from David Hine, and notice his shout-out (patting myself on the back along with Greg Anderson)

http://www.comicsbulletin.com/featur...3969042668.htm (http://www.comicsbulletin.com/features/121033969042668.htm)

[stingerman]

If anybody's interested in The Armageddon trades parts 1 and 2, pm me and we can work something out.

[stingerman]

...and my mom never thought I would amount to anything!!!!

Here is a great interview from David Hine, and notice his shout-out (patting myself on the back along with Greg Anderson)

http://www.comicsbulletin.com/featur...3969042668.htm (http://www.comicsbulletin.com/features/121033969042668.htm)

That was a great interview. Looking forward to his Spawn:Book of the dead and it sounds like we have not seen the last of Hine on Spawn titles! Cool.

[michaeljsmith]

That was a great interview. Looking forward to his Spawn:Book of the dead and it sounds like we have not seen the last of Hine on Spawn titles! Cool.

It was a really good interview - and not just because he is dropping my name :biggrin: I am excited to see what Hine does with Two-Face. I also hope, and hope that he gets a shot to do some Spawn mini-series of the "other" Spawns over time. That would be amazing.

[Colossus77]

He started writing in issue 150. Philip Tan also started pencilling in that issue. Their issues together was the Armageddon arc. It's been collected in two trades, and also there's a really large collection that collects the whole arc, which I believe was thirteen issues.
Ahhh thanks. I'll be hunting sometime this month.

[Greg Anderson]

Ahhh thanks. I'll be hunting sometime this month.

No prob! I hope you enjoy! :smile:

[michaeljsmith]

New SPAWN this week - enough said

(just in case it is not enough... Sam & Twitch - how about now?)

[Dr. Ghost]

started reading this two days ago, after remembering how everyone was crazy for it when i was in the 7th grade (circa '97).
i'm currently on issue 26. does it get better?

[Chintzy Beatnik]

...and my mom never thought I would amount to anything!!!!

Here is a great interview from David Hine, and notice his shout-out (patting myself on the back along with Greg Anderson)

http://www.comicsbulletin.com/featur...3969042668.htm (http://www.comicsbulletin.com/features/121033969042668.htm)

Cool interview. I haven't picked up a lot of Hine's work, but I may have to change that soon.

[michaeljsmith]

started reading this two days ago, after remembering how everyone was crazy for it when i was in the 7th grade (circa '97).
i'm currently on issue 26. does it get better?

Honestly I struggle through those early issues. If you really want to check it out I would suggest The New Flesh Collection as a trade to pickup. If you like that there is a new trade called Neo Noir that collects the issues right after The New Flesh Collectoin. This would have you current and up to date.

Below is the cover of Neo Noir which should be out in the near future.

http://www.digitalarttutorials.com/files/neonoir--lo.jpg

[Greg Anderson]

Cool interview. I haven't picked up a lot of Hine's work, but I may have to change that soon.

Bro, I'd totally recommend Strange Embrace, Son of M, Silent War, and Daredevil: Redemption!

[michaeljsmith]

I forget Greg how much does Hine give you in kick backs for each book you recommend? I am surprised you didn't talk about his 7th grade history esay on how the "US Should be Annexed back to Great Britiain". Just kidding he is a great writer and I so look forward to the next 8 issues.

[Greg Anderson]

I forget Greg how much does Hine give you in kick backs for each book you recommend? I am surprised you didn't talk about his 7th grade history esay on how the "US Should be Annexed back to Great Britiain". Just kidding he is a great writer and I so look forward to the next 8 issues.

HAHAHA! But in all joking aside, I must pick up that essay! :biggrin:

[michaeljsmith]

HAHAHA! But in all joking aside, I must pick up that essay! :biggrin:

So is all of your writing just horror based or are you doing any superhero stuff too?

[Greg Anderson]

So is all of your writing just horror based or are you doing any superhero stuff too?

Most of my stuff are horror based, but I'd love to write some superhero stuff. I actually have quite a few ideas in my mind and I also have a story based on Greek mythology I'm planning with a best friend of mine.

[michaeljsmith]

Most of my stuff are horror based, but I'd love to write some superhero stuff. I actually have quite a few ideas in my mind and I also have a story based on Greek mythology I'm planning with a best friend of mine.

Cool - just curious. I have some crazy super hero ideas that I eventually need to get on paper but I was just curious with all of the things you were writing these days what all you were putting out there.

[Greg Anderson]

Cool - just curious. I have some crazy super hero ideas that I eventually need to get on paper but I was just curious with all of the things you were writing these days what all you were putting out there.

The thing is, I haven't thought about it until you asked, lol. But most of my stuff now are what is making up my horror based things, and most of my recent stuff is really me just practicing my craft. I also write poetry, which I love doing.

[michaeljsmith]

The thing is, I haven't thought about it until you asked, lol. But most of my stuff now are what is making up my horror based things, and most of my recent stuff is really me just practicing my craft. I also write poetry, which I love doing.

That is what they say the more you write the better you get at it. That is my goal for the next year... start writing a few things so that maybe someday before I am 100 I can find an artist and make a pitch.

[Greg Anderson]

That is what they say the more you write the better you get at it. That is my goal for the next year... start writing a few things so that maybe someday before I am 100 I can find an artist and make a pitch.

Well, I say start writing now, pronto. And it doesn't have to be big stuff, why don't you do very short brief stuff. Maybe 3 pages a day.

[michaeljsmith]

Well, I say start writing now, pronto. And it doesn't have to be big stuff, why don't you do very short brief stuff. Maybe 3 pages a day.

I am collaborating with David Hine on a Curse of the Spawn pitch right now so I will get some practice in :rolleyes:

[michaeljsmith]

We are just missing Jack and we could derail this SPAWN-thread just like the one we do at Newsarama for a good 4 or 5 hours :tongue:

[Greg Anderson]

I am collaborating with David Hine on a Curse of the Spawn pitch right now so I will get some practice in :rolleyes:

Haha! Add in a good word for me! :biggrin:

We are just missing Jack and we could derail this SPAWN-thread just like the one we do at Newsarama for a good 4 or 5 hours

Ha! But that's what makes that thread so awesome. We all became just a fun group of people who talks about whatever and then we just jump right back to Spawn talk seamlessly. :biggrin:

[michaeljsmith]

How can anyone not be excited about this upcoming issue? Mike Mayhew seems to be bringing some nice touches to the book and Andy is always top notch on the colors.

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn319/savagecomic/SP18004s_100.jpg

[michaeljsmith]

OK, I was a little shocked to pickup SPAWN today and find that the cover did not have Sam & Twitch on it and they made no appearance in the book at all. HMMMM so much

Luckily I was able to find the below from Brian Haberlin (Editor in Chied for TMP and artist on SPAWN).

Guys as you'll notice Sam and Twitch cover was not used for this issue. We had to retool some issues when we found we had to wrap it up. They were to be originally in it (not just in it but their issue) but that changed.

This and 177 are kind of our catch up issues (you'll notice I had some help on the issues) trying to get the book in your hands the one that is actually solicited for that month.

After 178 and to the end of our run will be full blown hardcore no compromise issues I know you'll love. So please bare with us...from 179 to 184 will be a hell of a ride! Promise!

Now on to the issue --->

This was a good issue but not great. I appreciate it more knowing that some last minute changes were made to set up the upcoming run to the home stretch. I liked that we got to see some insight into the CLOAK. The vampire (or whatever you call it was interesting but I really wish we could have seen what he looked like). It was interesting to see Al get a little upset when the vampire put his hands on Nyx - jealous guy I take it :smile: . It was cool to see Al sharing with Marc about Mammon and the fact that they are brothers - I hope that gets played out a little in the next several issues.

All-in-all I could give this issue a 4 out of 5. The next 6 issues are going to be amazing though - for those of you not reading this book you are sure missing out.

Below is the actual cover since Sam & Twtich did not make the cut....

http://www.midtowncomics.com/images/PRODUCT/FUL/965935_ful.jpg

[michaeljsmith]

...another page from the upcoming WORLD WAR I SPAWN issue


http://board.spawn.com/images/board/SP179_teaser.jpg

[Dr. Ghost]

looks badass; it reminds me of iron maiden artwork.

[stingerman]

I thought the issue was pretty cool. I liked how it was from the perspective of the vampire. Can someone fill me in when Al was bitten by a vampire before and what happened? Obviously, this one is different. Though I was a little surprised Al didn't act faster to stop the vampire when he first appeared to them. Maybe its just he does move that fast as Marc said.

[michaeljsmith]

I believe Al got bitten during the Simon Pure story arc back around the 110's to 120's. There was a whole group of Vampires who were based on the belief that Jesus was the first Vampire ("take and drink of this cup of for it is my blood given in a new convenant"). They were going to wipe the whole world of sin but Al took on everyone's sins and faught the Vampires. Twitch's son Max was killed during this whole time too.

[michaeljsmith]

Picture of Al from the Book of the Dead hardback that will be released in about a month or so - the recent previews have been amazing!!

http://board.spawn.com/images/board/BOD_Simmons.jpg

[deadontheinside]

So, I just created an account so I could come in here and tell you that I picked up Spawn 176 and 177, specifically because of this thread, and I found them extremely enjoyable.

I haven't read any Spawn in years. Truth be told I was never really that into the story, I primarily bought it for the art. Spawn has always been a great looking title, and the first thing I noticed when I opened 176 was that its still one of the best drawn comics in the business.

But, wow. This ain't the Spawn I remember at all.

The new look is amazing. This looks less like a superhero book and now seems like more of a horror title. Spawn comes off like a badass monster, constantly hiding in the shadows, with a face that looks more Swamp Thing scary than the old cartoony look. I was always a fan of McFarlane's (and later Capullo's) art, but this new "painted" style is really great to look at and really fits in with the new darker storyline. The panels have depth and even though everything is in dark tones it still comes off colorful, but in an evil carnival kind of way.

Also, the creepy disfigured kid looked great! And the Lovecraftian manga monster closeup (next to last page, top left panel) looked just like the beholder monster from Big Trouble in Little China (with the fucked up left eye and everything)! Very cool.

Anyway, I'll be checking out where this new direction is going for the next couple of issues. Consider me another (slightly less skeptical) convert. Are they really killing off Spawn? I'll be sticking around to see how this all plays out.

Just thought I'd let you know. Thanx. :)

[michaeljsmith]

So, I just created an account so I could come in here and tell you that I picked up Spawn 176 and 177, specifically because of this thread, and I found them extremely enjoyable.

I haven't read any Spawn in years. Truth be told I was never really that into the story, I primarily bought it for the art. Spawn has always been a great looking title, and the first thing I noticed when I opened 176 was that its still one of the best drawn comics in the business.

But, wow. This ain't the Spawn I remember at all.

The new look is amazing. This looks less like a superhero book and now seems like more of a horror title. Spawn comes off like a badass monster, constantly hiding in the shadows, with a face that looks more Swamp Thing scary than the old cartoony look. I was always a fan of McFarlane's (and later Capullo's) art, but this new "painted" style is really great to look at and really fits in with the new darker storyline. The panels have depth and even though everything is in dark tones it still comes off colorful, but in an evil carnival kind of way.

Also, the creepy disfigured kid looked great! And the Lovecraftian manga monster closeup (next to last page, top left panel) looked just like the beholder monster from Big Trouble in Little China (with the fucked up left eye and everything)! Very cool.

Anyway, I'll be checking out where this new direction is going for the next couple of issues. Consider me another (slightly less skeptical) convert. Are they really killing off Spawn? I'll be sticking around to see how this all plays out.

Just thought I'd let you know. Thanx. :)

Welcome aboard - I have been with the book since day one and I cannot tell enough people that this is NOT the same Spawn from back-in-the-day. You nailed it on the head with your descriptions and overview.

I doubt that they are going to kill Al Simmons as Spawn but that means that they will need to kill Wanda Blake - it is an either or but one of them is going to die.

[Mr. Sam]

I'm back guys. Picked up the most recent issue. I gotta be honest, I found it a little confusing. Looking into the conversation between Al, Marc and Nyx from a different perspective and without the start was a little... awkward, I gotta admit. Still, I loved the twist at the end, even though my stupid self didn't quite get it immediately.

[michaeljsmith]

I'm back guys. Picked up the most recent issue. I gotta be honest, I found it a little confusing. Looking into the conversation between Al, Marc and Nyx from a different perspective and without the start was a little... awkward, I gotta admit. Still, I loved the twist at the end, even though my stupid self didn't quite get it immediately.

Glad to have you back. I agree that issue #178 is a little different, especially being told in the first person, but I really liked it. I agree that Marc, Myx and Al's conversation would be a little off to a new reader but at the same time I thought they tried to explain it out as much as possible. I also struggled through the ending a little bit but I love reading the second time through for all of the things I miss.

The next issue is actually the World War 1 issue that we have previewed up above...

[Mr. Sam]

The next issue is actually the World War 1 issue that we have previewed up above...

And, as said above, it looks pretty damn sweet. The Spawn franchise has always been suited to be linked to the past and to have lots of spin-offs. And so lots of spin-offs it has had.

[michaeljsmith]

I really believe the next 6 issues are going to reward all of those fans of the book... it is a good time to be a Spawn fan.

[michaeljsmith]

...another preview page for issue #179

http://board.spawn.com/images/board/SP179_2.jpg

[michaeljsmith]

Spawn #179 drops this week boys and girls. That is two weeks since the last issue... NICE


PICKUP ISSUE #179 THIS WEEK

[michaeljsmith]

How can anyone not be excited about this issue? I really want a full variant issue just released in pencils.

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn319/savagecomic/SP180p13.jpg

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn319/savagecomic/SP180p14.jpg

[michaeljsmith]

http://www.comicartfans.com/Images/Category_8041/subcat_60935/SP180p04&05.jpg

[Greg Anderson]

Oh yes! It's gonna be glorious. :biggrin:

[Greg Anderson]

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn319/savagecomic/SP18013_100.jpg

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn319/savagecomic/SP18014_100.jpg

[michaeljsmith]

...this really is going to be an amazing issue. WOW

[Greg Anderson]

Cover to Savage Dragon #140

http://www.imagecomics.com/images/messageboard/SD140.jpg

[michaeljsmith]

There is so much good SPAWN right now it is amazing.

[Punisher37]

Issue # 179 kicked ass

[michaeljsmith]

Issue # 179 kicked ass

I picked it up today and plan to check it out tonight. Just flipping threw it made my jaw drop though. This serious is one of the best looking issues of ANY comic I have seen in a long time. Mike and Andy nailed the art on this one.

People even if you aren't a Spawn fan- #179 is the issue you should check out.

[stingerman]

This might be one of the best Spawn issues I ever read.

The art was fan-firggin-tastic!

Gonna, miss these guys. Can't see whoever toppin' something like this.

[michaeljsmith]

I agree 100% - this is an all time TOP 5 issue in my mind. I'm not sure how long it took Mike Mayhew to do the art but I so wish he could be the regular on this book.

For anyone who wants a good book with a great story this issue is amazing. We have posted a ton of pictures leading up to it but they did not do this issue justice.

You have to check out this one.

[Punisher37]

Hey guys. What are your thoughts on the new creative team that was announced? I'm kind of excited, but still a bit wary. I also expect delays due to Portacio.

[michaeljsmith]

I am undecided to this point. I am really a little disappointed that David Hine got replaced by bringing back Brian H. Now that is not a slam on Brian because Godslayer was one of the best books EVER. I just am not sure what to think. I want to understand the direction - horror, superhero what is it? I know that a lot of this will come out soon but I am curious.


http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/4897/spawn185tw6.jpg

[Greg Anderson]

I believe it's suppose to be more superhero-ey, with maybe more balls to the walls action, guns blazing, etc. Stuff like that. Shame as the horror stuff were a big reason why I was loving the book so much. Just happy to hear that Dave plans to at least have some type of project with Spawn after this.

[michaeljsmith]

I believe it's suppose to be more superhero-ey, with maybe more balls to the walls action, guns blazing, etc. Stuff like that. Shame as the horror stuff were a big reason why I was loving the book so much. Just happy to hear that Dave plans to at least have some type of project with Spawn after this.

I seriously hope he gets to do some alternate Spawn minis (Gunslinger, Manderin, and World War One have all rocked). :biggrin:

[xarathos]

I met Portacio last month and he gave me the greatest advice on how to break into the industry. I was going to ask him about this but my mind was on getting work.

Yeah, I don't know how fast he can work it anymore. I didn't think it would be him as I understood that he was exclusive to DC (maybe that expired). He can draw dark enough for Spawn, though.

[Fatguy]

"While I'm very happy with where Spawn has gone, it's long past time to inject some new blood into the series while also returning to its roots,"

I absolutely hate this quote by McFarlane. Why is it long past time? It comes off almost insulting to the current team.

Not to mention it makes no sense to "Get back to their roots", most of Image's roots are mocked as 90's fluff compaired to the sophisticated stories Image puts out now. This book under David Hine and co. is 1,000X better than it's EVER been. IMHO, of course :wink:

I dunno, I'll check out this potential step back before making final judgement, but I'm worried. Spawn has become one of my absolute favorite horror comics I have ever read. I would rather it stay that way than go back to being a "badass superhero" book again. We already have plenty of those.

[michaeljsmith]

"While I'm very happy with where Spawn has gone, it's long past time to inject some new blood into the series while also returning to its roots,"

I absolutely hate this quote by McFarlane. Why is it long past time? It comes off almost insulting to the current team.

Not to mention it makes no sense to "Get back to their roots", most of Image's roots are mocked as 90's fluff compaired to the sophisticated stories Image puts out now. This book under David Hine and co. is 1,000X better than it's EVER been. IMHO, of course :wink:

I dunno, I'll check out this potential step back before making final judgement, but I'm worried. Spawn has become one of my absolute favorite horror comics I have ever read. I would rather it stay that way than go back to being a "badass superhero" book again. We already have plenty of those.

I agree 100% that his comments seem more than disrespectful to Hine and Haberlin's run on the book. I think that David Hine has done more to advance the character and the story than the prior 150 issues did combined. I also respect that this is Todd's property and it might be living up to his vision.

In the end I have collected this book since issue #1 and to be honest issue #179 was better than all of the rest. I am here for the longhaul and eager to see what the new team can do moving forward.

I wish David Hine and Brian Haberlin the best in the futures and hope to see them around doing more incredible things.

[michaeljsmith]

While most people have likely seen the teaser image by Whilce, below is a copy of the pencils from that same picture. Amazing looking stuff....

http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/3198/spawnpromowebcb8.jpg

[xarathos]

While most people have likely seen the teaser image by Whilce, below is a copy of the pencils from that same picture. Amazing looking stuff....

http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/3198/spawnpromowebcb8.jpg

Portacio is a great artist. As with all pencil(l)ers the outcome of their artwork is dependent on the inker. I was hoping Todd would ink this, but I guess not. I looked at the recent Wetworks stuff and it doesn't look as good as the older stuff he did when he was inked by people like Scott Williams. Portacio is great.

[michaeljsmith]

Portacio is a great artist. As with all pencil(l)ers the outcome of their artwork is dependent on the inker. I was hoping Todd would ink this, but I guess not. I looked at the recent Wetworks stuff and it doesn't look as good as the older stuff he did when he was inked by people like Scott Williams. Portacio is great.

He was spoiled to work with Scott - they really should have kept Andy Troy at Spawn. He was so good.

[stingerman]

This does look really friggin cool. However, One More Day has great art as well (I think). LOL!

http://www.spawn.com/news/images/whilcetodd_photo_02_dp.jpg

[michaeljsmith]

I personally thing that inked and colored version is a little less than the pencils. I am eager to see how this goes though. I will miss David Hine terribly but I am willing to trust in the book just as I have for #179 issues...

[CoreyB]

Looks like the inker removed the mouth and added a second finger on the left hand pointing to the head.

And why is he pointing to his head, anyway? Is he sending a telepathic message to the reader to "buy more copies"?

[michaeljsmith]

Looks like the inker removed the mouth and added a second finger on the left hand pointing to the head.

And why is he pointing to his head, anyway? Is he sending a telepathic message to the reader to "buy more copies"?

It looks like he is trying to shoot himself in the head - that of course is not an inspiring start for the new team.

[Vintage Crime]

It looks like he is trying to shoot himself in the head - that of course is not an inspiring start for the new team.

Maybe Al is just as depressed as the rest of us about the end of the current creative team's run.

I recently caught up and have now read the entire Spawn run. The post armageddon stories have been exactly what I want from the comic. This is truly a noir horror title now. Mostly. The current issue isn't exaclyt noir horror, but it is still insanely bad ass. I never would have thought that an interacial love story/World War 1 flashback would fit into the Spawn storyline, but it was a great story.

I mourn the loss of the current creative team. I will give the new guys a shot, but still Spawn has never been better since that hotel storyline started after armageddon.

[michaeljsmith]

Welcome Vintage, great to hear your thoughts. I couldn't agree more. David Hine has done more in 3 issue - 2 Gunslinger and 1 World War Spawn to develop Al and his history than all of the other issues combined.

I will miss the current team. I try to stay optimistic but we will see.

[Vintage Crime]

Welcome Vintage, great to hear your thoughts. I couldn't agree more. David Hine has done more in 3 issue - 2 Gunslinger and 1 World War Spawn to develop Al and his history than all of the other issues combined.

I will miss the current team. I try to stay optimistic but we will see.

The three brothers arc was very enlightening too. Mammon has been a very interesting villain with the way they have weaved him into different time periods and with him influencing Al's lineage. Seeing Mammon in the Gunslinger flashback, Al's childhood, and then the War flashback shows that Mammon has a plan. Mammon is more of a strategist than Maelbolgia ever was.

I think we should have about 9 issues of David Hine's script left so I'm excited to see where he goes with the hooded vampire figure that has accompanied Mammon as of late.

[michaeljsmith]

We get 5 more issues of Hine, but it is going to be fun.....

[bushboy]

Looking forward to the new team. Haven't really been enjoying the last few horror-noir issues. The Armageddon story was a masterpiece, IMO. The newer stuff is good, but I myself am just not feeling it, except for the Gunslinger and WW1, those were great. Just couldn't get behind the idea of Al sitting back letting other people handle his business. It's like what Mammon said, about Al losing his will to fight and all that.

[michaeljsmith]

Looking forward to the new team. Haven't really been enjoying the last few horror-noir issues. The Armageddon story was a masterpiece, IMO. The newer stuff is good, but I myself am just not feeling it, except for the Gunslinger and WW1, those were great. Just couldn't get behind the idea of Al sitting back letting other people handle his business. It's like what Mammon said, about Al losing his will to fight and all that.

Al has become a little bit of a punk as of late - but I am sure that is all about to change :evilsmile:

[Greg Anderson]

We get 5 more issues of Hine, but it is going to be fun.....

Damn... and a few weeks later it'd be 4 issues left. :frown:

[michaeljsmith]

Damn... and a few weeks later it'd be 4 issues left. :frown:

I didn't realize you still knew how to log into CBR :eek:

You know the next 5 issues are going to be amazing... David Hine and a blaze of glory baby.

[Greg Anderson]

I didn't realize you still knew how to log into CBR :eek:

You know the next 5 issues are going to be amazing... David Hine and a blaze of glory baby.

Haha! Yeah, I still lurk. I don't post as much, though.

And yes, for sure they'll be great! I wonder what will be his next on-going series. I need my monthly fix of Hine goodness. Heck, I miss when I used to buy multiple books with his name each month!

[michaeljsmith]

Haha! Yeah, I still lurk. I don't post as much, though.

And yes, for sure they'll be great! I wonder what will be his next on-going series. I need my monthly fix of Hine goodness. Heck, I miss when I used to buy multiple books with his name each month!

Lurking my butt - you are just spending a lot of time trying to figure out how the heck to navigate through the new Newsarama forum (because it sucks).

This is a great time to be a Spawn fan though... even if you aren't a recent fan grab the next 5 books because it is going to be amazing :biggrin:

[Greg Anderson]

Cover to #180

http://www.spawn.com/comics/Spawn/monthly/images/spawn_comic_cover_180_cl.jpg

[James30]

VERY NICE!!


Cover to #180

http://www.spawn.com/comics/Spawn/monthly/images/spawn_comic_cover_180_cl.jpg

[prismablue]

This does look really friggin cool. However, One More Day has great art as well (I think). LOL!

http://www.spawn.com/news/images/whilcetodd_photo_02_dp.jpg

I love Whilce but the final color art has a fanzine feel to it. I think it might be the colors. The first 100 issues of spawn really set a high bar when it comes to art production values that haven't been their consistantly since.

[stingerman]

I personally thing that inked and colored version is a little less than the pencils. I am eager to see how this goes though. I will miss David Hine terribly but I am willing to trust in the book just as I have for #179 issues...

Oh you are right! I liked the pencil version better, too.

[Greg Anderson]

I love Whilce but the final color art has a fanzine feel to it. I think it might be the colors. The first 100 issues of spawn really set a high bar when it comes to art production values that haven't been their consistantly since.

I dunno, Phil Tan's short run I thought was fantastic.

[prismablue]

I dunno, Phil Tan's short run I thought was fantastic.

Phillip is a great artist, but I don't know that his pencils got the same treatment as Gregs. Danny Miki wasn't inking the book as completely as he did over Greg and Haberlin and Kemp weren't the primary colorists anymore. Those guys were just as improtant to the look as Greg. I would have loved to see Danny Miki ink Whilce with colors by Haberlin and Kemp.

[Greg Anderson]

I wonder if Miki'll ever come back to the book.

[michaeljsmith]

Phillip is a great artist, but I don't know that his pencils got the same treatment as Gregs. Danny Miki wasn't inking the book as completely as he did over Greg and Haberlin and Kemp weren't the primary colorists anymore. Those guys were just as improtant to the look as Greg. I would have loved to see Danny Miki ink Whilce with colors by Haberlin and Kemp.

Miki could make my 5 year old daughters drawings look amazing.

[Greg Anderson]

What do you guys think?

http://a621.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/69/l_6d77d9774294160e1f13613d9864ad04.jpg

[michaeljsmith]

What do you guys think?

http://a621.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/69/l_6d77d9774294160e1f13613d9864ad04.jpg


I think my computer sucks becasue I cannot see a thing...

[bushboy]

What do you guys think?

http://a621.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/69/l_6d77d9774294160e1f13613d9864ad04.jpg

I think it's one of Whilce's best pieces.

[michaeljsmith]

I think it's one of Whilce's best pieces.

Great that makes me hate my computer even more....:redface:

[Greg Anderson]

Great that makes me hate my computer even more....:redface:

Poor thing. :tongue:

[michaeljsmith]

Poor thing. :tongue:

That is it young man you are grounded... I will have to check it out when I get home. Stupid computer is blocking MySpace. Let's just play charades --- is it a person, place or thing? :eek:

I hear it is a swell 90's looking pic by Whilce. :rolleyes:

[Greg Anderson]

That is it young man you are grounded... I will have to check it out when I get home. Stupid computer is blocking MySpace. Let's just play charades --- is it a person, place or thing? :eek:

I hear it is a swell 90's looking pic by Whilce. :rolleyes:

Person...Thing...Thing-Person! No... person! Heh.

[stingerman]

That is it young man you are grounded... I will have to check it out when I get home. Stupid computer is blocking MySpace. Let's just play charades --- is it a person, place or thing? :eek:

I hear it is a swell 90's looking pic by Whilce. :rolleyes:

How about now?

http://www.bringbackwendell.com/spawn.jpg

[michaeljsmith]

How about now?

http://www.bringbackwendell.com/spawn.jpg

Man you are the best - I actually caught a quick glimpse last night and was very underwhelmed. With all of the great art we have seen on Spawn lately this is not the direction I was hoping to go...

[stingerman]

Man you are the best - I actually caught a quick glimpse last night and was very underwhelmed. With all of the great art we have seen on Spawn lately this is not the direction I was hoping to go...

I thought the exact same thing. The art for Spawn, imo, has been really good. This is nothing special.

[michaeljsmith]

I thought the exact same thing. The art for Spawn, imo, has been really good. This is nothing special.

I am going to enjoy the end of the H2 run and sit back with hopeful optimism about the future.

[IronFister]

OH what the crap.... I started up with this new creative team arc and I love it... was never into Spawn before... I'm seriously pissed.

BUT the current run has been so good that I'll keep up with the title.

(were the sales bad?)

[bushboy]

Am I the only one who enjoyed 90's style Spawn more than the current arc? I guess that's because it's what I grew up with. So lonely over here...

[michaeljsmith]

While sales of Spawn have decreased over the past 2 years by 20% that was not the driving decision behind the change in teams. Haberlin was stepping down as he has a lot of other projects going on and was too busy. This opened the door for McFarlane to decide that he wanted to make a bigger change than just writer.

Regarding the 90's style versus now - Spawn is the one comic I really grew up with. I bought issue #1 and have bought every issue since. I liked Todd, Greg, and Angel's style but I really liked the new direction. I felt like the book had finally caught up with me in the growing cycle. I am curious how the new team will work out.

[stingerman]

Am I the only one who enjoyed 90's style Spawn more than the current arc? I guess that's because it's what I grew up with. So lonely over here...

I liked the early McFarlane, but once he left I basically did, too. Within the last year or so I got back into comics in general and have been likin' Spawn. I guess its been selling around 20,000 which isnt much and has been recently surpassed by The Walking Dead as Image's top seller.

I can't for the life of me figure out why Image doesn't sell better compared to most of the crap that sells more. Habit?

[michaeljsmith]

The crazy thing about sales is it is hard to explain. First your LCS needs to perorder books for you to buy. The LCS buys the books they think you want. This all comes from them buying them upfront. So if a new book called Firebreather for example comes out the LCS might order 2 or 3 issues. If they all sell they are happy and if you miss out and don't tell anyone you wanted one the next month he will order 2 or 3 again.

The key to books selling well is telling your LCS to preorder the books you want. I'm fortunate to live in Chicago with a super chain like Graham Crackers that can take chances on books because they have 6 or 7 big locations. I go to one of the smaller of there shops and if I don't tell my man I want I want I know he can get it from another location usually. I have realized that just telling your LCS what you like and giving him a list of the books you want in advance just makes it easier on everyone. If we don't speak up and talk about Spawn, Proof, or Firebreather then they don't know to order it. They know if they order 50 Batman or X-Men somebody will buy them but they don't know that 5 people really want Spawn. My gut started getting more Spawn based on my preorders alone. He said that he didn't know anyone still wanted the book. Now people are picking it up because they see it.

[Punisher37]

Speaking of FireBreather, does anyone here know when issue 2 ships?

[michaeljsmith]

Speaking of FireBreather, does anyone here know when issue 2 ships?

Funny you metion that I met Andy and Phil yesterday at Wizard World Chicago and actually got a sneak preview of #2 (actually I read the whole issue) it was great. My guess is that it will be out the 10th.

[Punisher37]

Funny you metion that I met Andy and Phil yesterday at Wizard World Chicago and actually got a sneak preview of #2 (actually I read the whole issue) it was great. My guess is that it will be out the 10th.

Awesome. Due to a ton of great videeo games coming out in the next few months, i'm really limiting my book buying. I've decided to keep FireBreather though. Its offering something unique which is hard to come by in a world where Secret Invasion and Jeph Loeb's Hulk are top sellers every month. : /

[Punisher37]

Also nice to see Astounding Wolf Man possibly beginning a more regular shipping schedule. I'm really digging that book as well.

[michaeljsmith]

Also nice to see Astounding Wolf Man possibly beginning a more regular shipping schedule. I'm really digging that book as well.

Firebreather and Proof are two newer titles that have jumped up my list of favorites. Spawn will always be a favorite and The Walking Dead and Invincible are both great. The funny thing is that my favorite books are all Image. I told Larsen this at Chicago that Image makes up 8 of my Top 10. Batman and Captain America are the only 2 non-Image books right now.

[michaeljsmith]

I was fortunate enough to come across former Spawn artist Angel Medina at Wizard World Chicago and get a nice Spawn sketch from him...

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/7011/spawnat9.jpg

[Greg Anderson]

When Spawn hits #200, Medina NEEDS his own cover! No questions asked! :mad:

[michaeljsmith]

OK - well I guess we should all be happy that he is drawing again... kinda

http://board.spawn.com/images/board/Todd13.jpg

[stingerman]

The crazy thing about sales is it is hard to explain. First your LCS needs to perorder books for you to buy. The LCS buys the books they think you want. This all comes from them buying them upfront. So if a new book called Firebreather for example comes out the LCS might order 2 or 3 issues. If they all sell they are happy and if you miss out and don't tell anyone you wanted one the next month he will order 2 or 3 again.

The key to books selling well is telling your LCS to preorder the books you want. I'm fortunate to live in Chicago with a super chain like Graham Crackers that can take chances on books because they have 6 or 7 big locations. I go to one of the smaller of there shops and if I don't tell my man I want I want I know he can get it from another location usually. I have realized that just telling your LCS what you like and giving him a list of the books you want in advance just makes it easier on everyone. If we don't speak up and talk about Spawn, Proof, or Firebreather then they don't know to order it. They know if they order 50 Batman or X-Men somebody will buy them but they don't know that 5 people really want Spawn. My gut started getting more Spawn based on my preorders alone. He said that he didn't know anyone still wanted the book. Now people are picking it up because they see it.

I hear that. My LCS is small, he probably does order only few copies of image. They do sell out though and I usually ask him to order me another this or that, like I have to do with Gemini #2.

I think you are right I need to give him a list. Batman has been pretty good. I just started picking it up with the RIP arc.

Regarding Captain America, I put it on my boycott list (along with Spider-Man: One More Dollar and Fake-Phyla Quasar) with the issue Bucky became the new Cap. I'm not down with Captain Puerto Rico.

[Dr. Ghost]

puerto rico?
what?

[stingerman]

puerto rico?
what?

http://www.bringbackwendell.com/newcap1.jpg

CBR-http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/11/19/fun-with-flags/

[stingerman]

http://www.bringbackwendell.com/cap.jpg

[stingerman]

Or how about this:

"Mr. Simon said he was worried about the direction the hero — well, his replacement — has taken. “The new costume, with the pistol and knife, and the old shield design going down to his privates, that’s not Captain America,” he said. Mr. Simon said he feared that someone would “shoot up a campus with pistols,” claiming he was inspired by the character."

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/16/books/16gust.html?_r=1&pagewanted=2&oref=slogin

On my boycott list!

[CoreyB]

I've heard or seen all of that before and still hardly think that's "boycott"-worthy. Maybe dropping the title out of no longer being interested in the direction, but hardly necessary of something so dramatic as proclaiming you're boycotting it. Seems a tad silly.

[michaeljsmith]

Or how about this:

"Mr. Simon said he was worried about the direction the hero — well, his replacement — has taken. “The new costume, with the pistol and knife, and the old shield design going down to his privates, that’s not Captain America,” he said. Mr. Simon said he feared that someone would “shoot up a campus with pistols,” claiming he was inspired by the character."

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/16/books/16gust.html?_r=1&pagewanted=2&oref=slogin

On my boycott list!

Man I love your passion STINGER - you give 100% to everything. I respect your opinion and your thoughts on this topic. I have never had a loyalty to Captain America as one of my mainstream characters so I am probably less turned off by the whole thing. I think that Bruebaker's stories are great and Epting's art is amazing. I understand what you are saying though. I have collected Batman since #400 (so over 250 issues) and if they mess with Bruce Wayne out of this Batman RIP story arc I will be pissed.

[michaeljsmith]

I hear that. My LCS is small, he probably does order only few copies of image. They do sell out though and I usually ask him to order me another this or that, like I have to do with Gemini #2.

I think you are right I need to give him a list.

If your LCS gets your list sometimes they can even recommend an upcoming book or even better will ask you opinion on a book to see if they should order a few more copies. Image has a bad wrap from the old days, and it still has some late titles, so a lot of the smaller LCS just stay away from it.

[stingerman]

I've heard or seen all of that before and still hardly think that's "boycott"-worthy. Maybe dropping the title out of no longer being interested in the direction, but hardly necessary of something so dramatic as proclaiming you're boycotting it. Seems a tad silly.

LOL! Yeah, maybe I am just a big dork.

Hey, they way I look at it, if I don't like it I don't buy it. Plain and simple.

Marvel seems to be getting rid of all the heroes these days.

Oh, btw, the reason I boycotted Cap is because they replaced Steve Rogers. If Bucky was just Bucky I would still get it. -- Just like they did with Quasar.

[michaeljsmith]

LOL! Yeah, maybe I am just a big dork.

Come on - we read comics --- we are all big dorks :biggrin:

I actually agree with your statements and that is the reason I am reading so little from the BIG TWO. Right now my favorite comics are:

(1) The Walking Dead - Image
(2) Proof - Image
(3) Spawn - Image
(4) Transhuman - Image
(5) Batman - DC
(6) Gemini - Image
(7) Invincible - Image
(8) Firebreather - Image
(9) Captain America - Marvel
(10) Red Mass for Mars - Image

[Greg Anderson]

I've been reading my post 100 issues of Spawn, the Holguin and Medina run. I've read up to the one 140s, the issue when Nyx "borrows" Al's powers. I'm mostly reading them for the heck of them since I haven't read them since I bought them all them years ago and as a way of seeing if I could get myself excited for Holguin coming back to the book. Sadly, no. It's weird, I used to LOVE these issues and it seems with Hine coming in a blowing crap out the water, Holguin's stuff just doesn't come near of comparing. There are lots of stuff I do love, though, and it isn't a HORRIBLE read, but it's just not inspiring a read. But I know Holguin CAN do greatness. His Godslayer was AMAZING! And for all we know, he's probably learned a lot from his absence of Spawn, so we'll see. (sighs)

[michaeljsmith]

I've been reading my post 100 issues of Spawn, the Holguin and Medina run. I've read up to the one 140s, the issue when Nyx "borrows" Al's powers. I'm mostly reading them for the heck of them since I haven't read them since I bought them all them years ago and as a way of seeing if I could get myself excited for Holguin coming back to the book. Sadly, no. It's weird, I used to LOVE these issues and it seems with Hine coming in a blowing crap out the water, Holguin's stuff just doesn't come near of comparing. There are lots of stuff I do love, though, and it isn't a HORRIBLE read, but it's just not inspiring a read. But I know Holguin CAN do greatness. His Godslayer was AMAZING! And for all we know, he's probably learned a lot from his absence of Spawn, so we'll see. (sighs)

You are going to make me cry - you want to feel even worse? Go back and read Todd's writing :(

I have to believe there will be a light at the end of the tunnel.

[bushboy]

You are going to make me cry - you want to feel even worse? Go back and read Todd's writing :(

I have to believe there will be a light at the end of the tunnel.
I really don't like being in the minority here. Holguin's stuff was the best IMO, and I couldn't be happier he's coming back.

[michaeljsmith]

I don't know that Holigun ever had a plan beyond the next 3 issues and left a tone of loose ends. I think Hine did an incredible job of tying it all together and have a long term vision for the book. Now I agree that Hine has watered down Spawn to being a wimp.

I'm hopefully optimistic.

[bushboy]

Actually, looking back, I miss the McFarlane/Capullo days the most. :frown:

[michaeljsmith]

Actually, looking back, I miss the McFarlane/Capullo days the most. :frown:

I absolutely miss Greg's art. I have said this before but to me Capullo is the art of Spawn and Hine has become the voice. His Armageddon arc and his tying up loose ends, and creating back stories with World War One spawn and Gunslinger Spawn make him my favorite.

Throw those two together and I am a happy little boy :biggrin:

[michaeljsmith]

SPAWN
MONTHLY SERIES
ISSUE 180 | JULY 2008

http://www.spawn.com/comics/images/tab_comics_header_credits.gif
TITLE
STORY David Hine
LETTERS Tom Orzechowski
COVER Greg Capullo
COLORS Andy Troy
INKSBrian Haberlin
PENCILSBrian Haberlin

http://www.spawn.com/comics/images/tab_comics_header_summary.gif
Spawn battles his greatest enemy... HIMSELF! When Al Simmons was resurrected as a Hellspawn, he became symbiotically connected to his living necroplasmic costume. Now that costume has turned against him, and it's tearing him apart...

http://www.spawn.com/comics/Spawn/monthly/images/spawn_comic_cover_180_cl.jpg

[Greg Anderson]

Ugh, five more issues. I know what Dave'll be doing, but I wonder what Brian will be up to. I'm so gonna miss his art. I'd love to see this team work on something else, together. Another horror book for sure.

[michaeljsmith]

Ugh, five more issues. I know what Dave'll be doing, but I wonder what Brian will be up to. I'm so gonna miss his art. I'd love to see this team work on something else, together. Another horror book for sure.

I don't see them working together. What does Hine have besides his Two-Face one shot?

[Greg Anderson]

I don't see them working together. What does Hine have besides his Two-Face one shot?

From what I understand, I think some more DC and Marvel stuff currently under-wraps, dunno if any new creator owned stuff are coming out. Poison Candy 2 comes out soon though. Spawn: Book of the Dead.

Vote for Spawn! http://redeye.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/red-superherotourney,0,4881219.special

[michaeljsmith]

am not sure how I feel about this issue. The art was really not that good and it felt like it was pieced together. Wanda, Terry and Cyan all looked unrecognizable to me and I wouldn't have known who any of them were if they would have not used their names.

As for the story I think it was above average but less than what Hine has produced in the past. I was hoping for a little more of Al vs. the costume (you are my body I am not your costume... great line http://board.spawn.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif ). I like the Mammon, Cloke, and possee portion of the book; makes you really wonder what is going on with that group. There is a lot of potential here and I know that Hine will work some magic before all is said and done.

I am fearful that the end of the current run is going to be just rushed to finish more than out with a blaze of glory. I hope I am wrong. I do wonder how we are are going to get 4 more issues before October (that is one every 3 weeks or so - which would be nice).

I was excited by the Spawn: End Game preview on the back cover...nice :biggrin:

[michaeljsmith]

...for those that did not see the back cover of the most recent issue, a little teaser for the new team:

http://board.spawn.com/images/board/spawn.endgame.teaser.01.jpg

[NICK_D]

Awesome issue. I think Marc Simmons will be the new Hellspawn. Makes sense to me. How he explains himself as to not feeling any emotions anymore.

[bushboy]

Wait, what? I haven't even read the issue yet!

[michaeljsmith]

Wait, what? I haven't even read the issue yet!

That is a question you should be asking yourself each and every day until you do...

[michaeljsmith]

Awesome issue. I think Marc Simmons will be the new Hellspawn. Makes sense to me. How he explains himself as to not feeling any emotions anymore.

Man I hope not - I really hope that the new Spawn is Al Simmons. Now I think it would be cool if Marc (or Richie) became a Spawn and Al had to fight them. That I would get on board with.

[Ben Akers]

Jeez, the mail cannot get here fast enough.

I really need my copy of Spawn #180 to get here.

[michaeljsmith]

Jeez, the mail cannot get here fast enough.

I really need my copy of Spawn #180 to get here.

It was not an "A+" issue but it was good. The best thing I can say about Hine is even when his issues are off a little they keep moving the story forward. This is so much fun right now.... I don't want to spoil it for you but Al get's a little pissed :evilsmile:

[Ben Akers]

Like I said before, if this is Hine at a low, then his high must be incredible.