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WorstThingUS
03-05-2008, 01:59 PM
My god, we've entered X-Files territory of a show that simply has no more stories to tell and is being needlessly drawn out. Just end it now. Seriously. Smallville is about The Kents, the beginning of his war with Lex and ultimate failure of his romance with Lana. The Kents are gone and Lex and Lana are leaving this show is over.

saintsaucey
03-05-2008, 02:39 PM
Or call it Lois and Clark.

kalorama
03-05-2008, 02:53 PM
You mean there was a point before?

Legato
03-05-2008, 03:03 PM
You mean there was a point before?

You would think that Clark would have moved out of Smallville and gotten a job at the Daily Planet at this point. The guy hasn't even gotten close to achieving his destiny as Superman.

Clark hasn't reached any signs of development character wise, the only thing of him that has been developed is his powers.

Lex OTOH has atleast developed to whare he is following the same path as his comic version. Yet unlike his comic gersion Lex is not totaly evil but mostly taking a shades of grey path

Since I like James Marsters I hope he takes over as the main villain.

If any sense can be made out of this then let this current Season of Smallville involve Clark moving out of Smallville and make a permanent home in Metropolis. Maybe rename the series Metropolis while they are at it.

aggiepm
03-05-2008, 03:04 PM
Frankly I am more then OK with no Lana, she bugged me, but no Lex doesn't seem right to me, who will be the villain?

Legato
03-05-2008, 03:04 PM
Or call it Lois and Clark.

Metropolis sounds more logical if the writers can actually bother to have Clark move out of Smallville that is.

Legato
03-05-2008, 03:06 PM
Frankly I am more then OK with no Lana, she bugged me, but no Lex doesn't seem right to me, who will be the villa?

My money is on Brainiac. He seems capable enough for filling in as the main villain.

Well that would depend on if he survives the current season.

Sean Whitmore
03-05-2008, 03:10 PM
Just a silly question here...has there actually been any official confirmation that Rosenbaum and Kreuk aren't returning? Wasn't the show just picked up for another season, like, yesterday?


SEAN

Legato
03-05-2008, 03:12 PM
Just a silly question here...has there actually been any official confirmation that Rosenbaum and Kreuk aren't returning? Wasn't the show just picked up for another season, like, yesterday?


SEAN

Thare was alot of speculation that Rosenbaum is considering leaving Smallville this season but that was basically old news and for all we know Rosenbaum might have gotten a better offer and changed his mind.

Kruek Im not too sure about.

Sean Whitmore
03-05-2008, 03:16 PM
Thare was alot of speculation that Rosenbaum is considering leaving Smallville this season but that was basically old news and for all we know Rosenbaum might have gotten a better offer and changed his mind.

Yeah, that was the last I'd heard about the matter too.


SEAN

kalorama
03-05-2008, 03:33 PM
Just a silly question here...has there actually been any official confirmation that Rosenbaum and Kreuk aren't returning? Wasn't the show just picked up for another season, like, yesterday?

Not quite "official" but form a relatively reliable source.

http://www.tvguide.com/Ask-Ausiello/080305

Sean Whitmore
03-05-2008, 03:36 PM
Depends on your definition of "official."

http://www.tvguide.com/Ask-Ausiello/080305

Sources close to the show tell me that both actors have informed producers that they don't intend to return as series regulars next season.

I can't speak to the man's track record, but slightly more official than that. :)


SEAN

Erik Lehnsherr
03-05-2008, 03:56 PM
I like Kara and all but if there's no tweener Lana or Lex, I can't watch the show. Clark and his dimwitted charm means nothing to me...Lois is very average..and Chloe? Her high morality sucks.

Legato
03-05-2008, 04:01 PM
I like Kara and all but if there's no tweener Lana or Lex, I can't watch the show. Clark and his dimwitted charm means nothing to me...Lois is very average..and Chloe? Her high morality sucks.

Lana was actually starting to become more interesting this season with her spying on Lex and the payoff with her achieving Clark's powers to bring him down. I have to admit that when it comes to this season Im finding her more tolerable.



Clark can make me pull my hair out in frustration sometimes with his cluelessness.

Sean Whitmore
03-05-2008, 04:07 PM
and Chloe? Her high morality sucks.

Her what?


SEAN

Erik Lehnsherr
03-05-2008, 04:10 PM
She leans on Clark every time it SEEMS like he's off in her perception. It's too convenient. She leans on Lana to tell the truth about her secret corporation. She gives dirty looks to Jimmy when he speaks highly of Kara as if he should be wild over her at all times or something. Just very annoying.

kalorama
03-05-2008, 04:12 PM
Chloe's the only character on the show I can actually stand.

Surtur
03-05-2008, 04:14 PM
Frankly I am more then OK with no Lana, she bugged me, but no Lex doesn't seem right to me, who will be the villain?

Lex wasn't a villain the first 3-4 years of the show. He isn't necessary. Plus, his character isn't what it once was.

Doing stuff like bringing Julian back to life, etc. was just obsessive and getting old.

See ya lex.


Oh, and Lana gone? That is a blessing. Why isn't Lana coming back? I really hope she doesn't think she'll move onto better things, because she is kidding herself. I also hope she isn't leaving because she doesn't wanna be typecast as Lana, better that than "the chick from eurotrip and that crappy earthsea movie"

ZT4
03-05-2008, 04:17 PM
Rosenbaum's abscense fits the character. Lex has no ties to Smallville, Clark, Chole, Lana, or anyone. It's time to ascend to his throne and become the billionaire dickwad that he is, probably slaying Lionel in the finale.

Lana has been a basterdisation of the original character since she was "sexed up" in season four.

Sean Whitmore
03-05-2008, 04:25 PM
Lex wasn't a villain the first 3-4 years of the show.

That's because the show is nominally about a friendship that turns adversarial. Now that it has, taking away said adversary understandably seems weird to people.


SEAN

metalhead_dave743
03-05-2008, 04:35 PM
Personally, I think Smallville has run a couple seasons too long. If there IS a Season eight, the first part of it should be about getting Clark into the costume with the midway point being the debut of Superman.

Then pretty much have it be Clark trying to adjust into the whole duel identity thing and show what's up with Clark's world and supporting cast reactions now that Superman is in their lives while Clark and Chloe try to track down some scheme from Lex or Brainiac and try to stop it.

And the season/series finale would have Superman saving the day. That's how I would do season eight.

mattx110
03-05-2008, 04:40 PM
Maybe the show is really a commentary on how stagnant superman is, having aged about 5 years in 70. And by the end of the show, it'll just be Clark Kent in smallville alone, everyone else left or turned into a kryptonite monster and died. So he's just sitting there in the barn txt-messaging pete.

Erik Lehnsherr
03-05-2008, 04:41 PM
Lex wasn't a villain the first 3-4 years of the show. He isn't necessary. Plus, his character isn't what it once was.

Doing stuff like bringing Julian back to life, etc. was just obsessive and getting old.

See ya lex.


Oh, and Lana gone? That is a blessing. Why isn't Lana coming back? I really hope she doesn't think she'll move onto better things, because she is kidding herself. I also hope she isn't leaving because she doesn't wanna be typecast as Lana, better that than "the chick from eurotrip and that crappy earthsea movie"

It's her show. The show will become mediocre and probably be over the very next season anyway. So yeah..it's a blessing in proving her worth to all those that hate on the characters that carry the show on their back.

Sean Whitmore
03-05-2008, 04:41 PM
Personally, I think Smallville has run a couple seasons too long. If there IS a Season eight, the first part of it should be about getting Clark into the costume with the midway point being the debut of Superman.

While I agree with you, it's never gonna happen. Not with these show runners. They have to be dragged kicking and screaming into giving Clark an interest in journalism, for pete's sake. They wouldn't get to the costume if the show lasted 12 years.


SEAN

Legato
03-05-2008, 05:09 PM
While I agree with you, it's never gonna happen. Not with these show runners. They have to be dragged kicking and screaming into giving Clark an interest in journalism, for pete's sake. They wouldn't get to the costume if the show lasted 12 years.


SEAN

The only way Dave's scenario could happen is if that would be saved for a series finale. By season 8 Clark would still be in Smallville while his main battles would only occur in Metropolis.

metalhead_dave743
03-05-2008, 05:22 PM
The only way Dave's scenario could happen is if that would be saved for a series finale. By season 8 Clark would still be in Smallville while his main battles would only occur in Metropolis.

That's what I'm saying, have season eight be the final season... have the first half be Clark getting ready for the role to be Superman with the midpoint episode being Superman's debut.

Then the second half of the season would be what you mentioned and have the series finale be some huge action packed adventure where Clark saves the world from Brainiac or Lex or something.

The Batman
03-05-2008, 06:18 PM
Is Welling still not down with putting on the suit?

Legato
03-05-2008, 06:31 PM
That's what I'm saying, have season eight be the final season... have the first half be Clark getting ready for the role to be Superman with the midpoint episode being Superman's debut.

Then the second half of the season would be what you mentioned and have the series finale be some huge action packed adventure where Clark saves the world from Brainiac or Lex or something.

Brainiac could be a possibility, he is the one guy I can see really test Clark's powers to his fullest.

Brainiac is not human so Clark would have no reason to hold back on his powers like he did with the other villains.

If the writers want then maybe develop something between Clark and Lois or it could be a good time to experiment with Chloe and Clark.

I have a feeling the eight season would be the last one, I just cant see Smallville continuing beyond that point. Unless a potential 9th Season focus on Clark actually saving the world as Superman.

Either way I want Martian Manhunter back.

You think a Supergirl series would happen at some point? If a spin-off series happen Green Arrow is popular enough for that series to be successful.

Legato
03-05-2008, 06:32 PM
Is Welling still not down with putting on the suit?

I say never say never when it come to that. In the series finale you could see a brief glimps of him flying with the Superman costume just before the final credits come on.

Armless Penguin
03-05-2008, 07:23 PM
I'll admit to not having watched the show at all this season but add that my hatred of Lana played a big part in that, so her leaving can only be good news.

metalhead_dave743
03-05-2008, 07:29 PM
If the writers want then maybe develop something between Clark and Lois or it could be a good time to experiment with Chloe and Clark.



Personally I'd like to see Chloe use her healing powers and sacrifice herself to save Superman from some kryptonite poisoning or something in the final episode. Then Clark, with new found vigor and anger at Brainiac or whoever who poisoned him in the first place goes after Brainiac and stops his plan.

Legato
03-05-2008, 07:35 PM
Personally I'd like to see Chloe use her healing powers and sacrifice herself to save Superman from some kryptonite poisoning or something in the final episode. Then Clark, with new found vigor and anger at Brainiac or whoever who poisoned him in the first place goes after Brainiac and stops his plan.

Clark going berserk and hitting Brainiac with the full force of his powers would be pretty cool.

beetlebum
03-05-2008, 09:57 PM
Personally I'd like to see Chloe use her healing powers and sacrifice herself to save Superman from some kryptonite poisoning or something in the final episode. Then Clark, with new found vigor and anger at Brainiac or whoever who poisoned him in the first place goes after Brainiac and stops his plan.

That's not a bad idea. And loss is often a motivating factor behind the actions of super heroes. Perhaps, inspired by her actions, he dons that infamous costume and saves the world. And finally becomes all grow'd up. As for me, I think Eliseu summed it up best with this thread over at YABS. (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=212021)

That sums up my sentiments exactly, and it's all I really had to add to this conversation.

Sean Whitmore
03-05-2008, 10:08 PM
That's not a bad idea. And loss is often a motivating factor behind the actions of super heroes.

Personally, I've always thought Superman's losses should be limited to Pa Kent, which is more of an inspirational motivation than a vengeful one.

Of course, the show has already tainted that by making Jonathan's death Clark's fault (in more ways than one), so all bets are off, really.


SEAN

Legato
03-05-2008, 10:10 PM
Personally, I've always thought Superman's losses should be limited to Pa Kent, which is more of an inspirational motivation than a vengeful one.

Of course, the show has already tainted that by making Jonathan's death Clark's fault (in more ways than one), so all bets are off, really.


SEAN

That and hinting a romance between Martha and Lionel. Which is really cold since Lionel was responsible for Papa Kent's death in the first place.

Sean Whitmore
03-05-2008, 10:16 PM
That and hinting a romance between Martha and Lionel. Which is really cold since Lionel was responsible for Papa Kent's death in the first place.

Weird as that was, I could see what they were going for. I mean, they needed SOME reason to keep Martha around, and God knows her duties as a senator of nebulous power weren't interesting enough on their own.


SEAN

Bored at 3:00AM
03-05-2008, 11:44 PM
How on Earth can they keep this show going any more? How old is Tom Welling now? 40? Just because people keep watching the damn show is no reason to keep beating this dead horse.

She's dead, Jim.

Sean Whitmore
03-05-2008, 11:47 PM
How on Earth can they keep this show going any more? How old is Tom Welling now? 40?

When he finally becomes Superman, he's gonna have the gray hair at his temples like Kal-L.


SEAN

ForeverTaskmaster
03-06-2008, 02:05 AM
If Rosenbaum leaves. Too bad. If Kreuk leaves good riddance. Kreuk is hot, but very annoying on the show.
If the main villain for season 8 were Brainiac that would be awesome. Marsters rules as Brainiac.
But if it isn't Brainiac I hardly know any other villain who would fit in. Or maybe some invasion would be cool so that Clark has to assemble a fighting force consisting of people like Gardner, Deathstroke, Fire & Ice, Booster, Beetle etc for a big season finale.

GRANT!
03-06-2008, 02:13 AM
How on Earth can they keep this show going any more? How old is Tom Welling now? 40? Just because people keep watching the damn show is no reason to keep beating this dead horse.

She's dead, Jim.

It's a bit nutty. Can he even fly now?

the goddamn batman
03-06-2008, 02:15 AM
Just because people keep watching the damn show is no reason to keep beating this dead horse.



Ummm... that's exactly the reason tehy keep making it. Granted, I completely agree with you.

That said, how is this show still on? People still actually watch this?

Bored at 3:00AM
03-06-2008, 03:46 AM
Ummm... that's exactly the reason tehy keep making it. Granted, I completely agree with you.

That said, how is this show still on? People still actually watch this?

According to Wikipediea, the ratings have consistently gone down since the second season (which, I'll admit, was pretty entertaining). After the third season, it took a huge hit in the ratings and hasn't recovered.

My guess is the DVD sets sell really well so Warner Bros. is gonna keep churning them out, no matter how creatively bankrupt the show has become.

metalhead_dave743
03-06-2008, 04:50 AM
How on Earth can they keep this show going any more? How old is Tom Welling now? 40? Just because people keep watching the damn show is no reason to keep beating this dead horse.

She's dead, Jim.

Welling is 31 so he isn't an old man. But it's time for the show to end, he can't be playing a young Clark Kent anymore. He needs to put on the suit and the show needs to end.

Surtur
03-06-2008, 05:31 AM
That's because the show is nominally about a friendship that turns adversarial. Now that it has, taking away said adversary understandably seems weird to people.


SEAN


The show at its core is about a young superman growing up, not their friendship. Them just fitting Lex into his childhood was a bonus. He isn't necessary in terms of "who will play the villain now?!" because plenty of people can be the villain.


People might find it weird, but lex leaving doesn't = no good villains.

Sean Whitmore
03-06-2008, 06:13 AM
The show at its core is about a young superman growing up, not their friendship.

No, I'm fairly sure it was about the friendship.

If that isn't THE main conceit of the series, then it's definitely in the top two.


SEAN

Sean Walsh
03-06-2008, 07:22 AM
According to Wikipediea, the ratings have consistently gone down since the second season (which, I'll admit, was pretty entertaining). After the third season, it took a huge hit in the ratings and hasn't recovered.

My guess is the DVD sets sell really well so Warner Bros. is gonna keep churning them out, no matter how creatively bankrupt the show has become.

Behind WWE Smackdown, it's one of CW's best performing shows. With that one now cancelled (moving to MyTV in the fall) the network needs all they can get. So clearly Smallville was getting renewed.


And the folks here do know that the TV Guide guy report says Rosenbaum and Kreuk will keep appearing on the show from time to time (guest starring roles basically), right?

Surtur
03-06-2008, 07:41 AM
No, I'm fairly sure it was about the friendship.

If that isn't THE main conceit of the series, then it's definitely in the top two.


SEAN


It is definitely up there, but when the show first came out it wasn't billed as a show about the friendship between clark and lex, it was about Superman coming of age.

The friendship was a big part of it, and was usually the best part of the show (apart from the sometimes awkward moments between lex and clark that spawned various fan fics)


I think the show can survive without Lex and Lana. Now, if this was season 3-4 of smallville, no..it certainly could not survive.

Plus, they still do have Lionel(as he in contracted for season 8 already), who always made a great villain and can be turned back into one at any time. Brainiac as well, Dean Cain's character, Phantom Zone villains, Zor-El could return, etc.

On another note, anyone know how the writers strike(i know it is over) effects smallville? I know when the strike began they had finished 15 episodes, are they gonna finish the rest of the season, or wait till next season? On that note, I am to assume that a season 8 has been confirmed?

Also, have people been seeing the previews for the next new episode where it implies Lex finds out Clark's secret? You guys think he will actually retain the information by the episodes end? Or will he forget, just like 99% of people who find out.

EDIT: Found out it has been confirmed for renewal, as well as Supernatural, which is good.

Johnny_Luck
03-06-2008, 08:06 AM
According to Wikipediea, the ratings have consistently gone down since the second season (which, I'll admit, was pretty entertaining). After the third season, it took a huge hit in the ratings and hasn't recovered.

My guess is the DVD sets sell really well so Warner Bros. is gonna keep churning them out, no matter how creatively bankrupt the show has become.

Well then Wiki has it wrong. WB has been happy with its Ratings for Years now and they have been steady in the 5.1 to 5.6 Mil range for a few years now. Also like I said in the other thread Season 5 and Season 6 each had one of the two highest rated smallville episodes of all time with 5.9 mil and 6 mil respectively and I really don't care how many people say Lana/Clark is annoying they tune in huge for major episodes involving that relationship(those 2 highest were Reckoning, which was previewed as Lana being taken to the Fortress) and Promise(The Lana Wedding Episode)

WorstThingUS
03-06-2008, 03:01 PM
The show is called "Smallville" and is obstensibly about Superman's developing years, which are a) being raised by The Kents in small town USA, b) first love Lana Lang and c) initial friendship with Lex that goes badly.

All of these are now gone. He's got no reason whatsoever to stay in Smallville without his parents, Lana or even Lex to fight.

This show needs to end, but given its probably the biggest thing on The CW, they aren't going to let it go until they have a replacement or Welling just flat out refuses to come back.

DoctorDoom
03-06-2008, 04:07 PM
This show isn't long for this world much longer. It was a good run.

Jared
03-06-2008, 06:37 PM
How old is Clark, on the show now? Shouldn't he and his friends (that went) have graduated college by now? How can he still not be Superman! And still not fly! I know I remember the creators saying they had a "no flights, no tights" promise...but really, I think that after eight years, people would forgive them for breaking it. Hell, they've already had other heroes show up in tights. They've had other people fly. They've had Clark sort of fly. Didn't he hover during a dream back in the first or second season? I distinctly recall him sort of guiding himself through the tornado. How dumb can he be to have not figured it out yet? Spider-Man figured out web-slinging in two or three scenes, for cryin' out loud!

I agree that the best possible thing they could do short of outright cancellation would to just relaunch the show as "Metropolis". But of course they won't do that. If Pa Kent's death can't provide the impetus for Clark to become Superman, than absolutely nothing will until the final episode.

Legato
03-06-2008, 06:46 PM
How old is Clark, on the show now? Shouldn't he and his friends (that went) have graduated college by now? How can he still not be Superman! And still not fly! I know I remember the creators saying they had a "no flights, no tights" promise...but really, I think that after eight years, people would forgive them for breaking it. Hell, they've already had other heroes show up in tights. They've had other people fly. They've had Clark sort of fly. Didn't he hover during a dream back in the first or second season? I distinctly recall him sort of guiding himself through the tornado. How dumb can he be to have not figured it out yet? Spider-Man figured out web-slinging in two or three scenes, for cryin' out loud!

I agree that the best possible thing they could do short of outright cancellation would to just relaunch the show as "Metropolis". But of course they won't do that. If Pa Kent's death can't provide the impetus for Clark to become Superman, than absolutely nothing will until the final episode.

Once again the blame is placed on the creators of the show. It wouldn't have been too bad if Clark have actually became serious about atleast training to become Superman after his fathers death. You would also think that The Phantoms attacking people would have been a wake up call for Clark but it isn't the case.

It's almost like the creators aren't bothering to develop Clark beyond Smallville, By beyond I mean going to Metropolis, getting a job at the planet, practice on some crime fighting while he is thare, etc.

I would evel love to see him get some training from Martian Manhunter on how to control his powers whenever Clark has some free time from his other activities.

Jared
03-07-2008, 11:50 AM
Isn't all his free time taken up by moving hay bales around the barn? :)


(I loved that Lessons Learned from Smallville thread)

Wenatchee the Hatchet
03-07-2008, 05:59 PM
Just hearing that Pa Kent would die prompted me to stop watching the show. :mad: I didn't want to waste my time after that, not even when I heard that Marsters was a decent Brainiac.

Spidey-kid1
03-07-2008, 06:27 PM
Frankly I am more then OK with no Lana, she bugged me, but no Lex doesn't seem right to me, who will be the villain?

I agree. Lex was my favorite person in that show. Without him, theres not much point to it all.

Surtur
03-07-2008, 06:39 PM
Again, lex wasn't the villain for several years on the show, so I don't see why people are acting like they can't have villains without him.

marshal99
03-07-2008, 07:40 PM
Once again the blame is placed on the creators of the show. It wouldn't have been too bad if Clark have actually became serious about atleast training to become Superman after his fathers death. You would also think that The Phantoms attacking people would have been a wake up call for Clark but it isn't the case.

It's almost like the creators aren't bothering to develop Clark beyond Smallville, By beyond I mean going to Metropolis, getting a job at the planet, practice on some crime fighting while he is thare, etc.

I would evel love to see him get some training from Martian Manhunter on how to control his powers whenever Clark has some free time from his other activities.

Wasn't his training interrupted by Chloe during season 4 or 5 ?!

Fact is , he could fly but Clark's apparently a very slow learner so he never was able to while kara could , his bizarro clone could , when Clark was Kal-El could.

maczero
03-13-2008, 10:55 PM
I definitely think the show could survive without Lex or Lana. Lex is a great villian but his storylines tend outshine Clark's. Ultimately, the show is about a young Superman. Also, I'd like to see Dean Cain's character come back as the new villian. As for Lana, I think she's run her course so I'm not sad to see her go. Besides, there's barely any chemistry between Clark and Lois so it doesn't help to have Lana in the mix.

Anyway, I'm all for an 8th season but I wish they would get Clark out of Smallville and have him learn to fly.

Legato
03-13-2008, 11:04 PM
I definitely think the show could survive without Lex or Lana. Lex is a great villian but his storylines tend outshine Clark's. Ultimately, the show is about a young Superman. Also, I'd like to see Dean Cain's character come back as the new villian. As for Lana, I think she's run her course so I'm not sad to see her go. Besides, there's barely any chemistry between Clark and Lois so it doesn't help to have Lana in the mix.

Anyway, I'm all for an 8th season but I wish they would get Clark out of Smallville and have him learn to fly.

It's up to the creators of Smallville to make that happen sadly.

I like Vandal Savage in this series, if Marsters cant return full time then Dean Cain is a safe bet since he isn't doing much anyway.

drwho
03-13-2008, 11:32 PM
They should just make Lex go crazy and wear a mask, or get plastic surgery so if he chooses to come back then the original actor can.

LexLuthor86
03-13-2008, 11:38 PM
Who's Vandal Savage? I only watched 1-6 and havent been watching season seven just because I dont want to watch it till the dvd's come out. How is this season? Any other superheroes I can look forward to?

As for Lex and Lana, BOOOOOOO! I know the show can do without Lex, but that still bums me out, he's the best character on there besides Chloe. Lana, she's OKAY at times, I hate it how her character makes it seem to dawsons creek-y for me. She has her moments though.

Legato
03-13-2008, 11:44 PM
Who's Vandal Savage? I only watched 1-6 and havent been watching season seven just because I dont want to watch it till the dvd's come out. How is this season? Any other superheroes I can look forward to?

As for Lex and Lana, BOOOOOOO! I know the show can do without Lex, but that still bums me out, he's the best character on there besides Chloe. Lana, she's OKAY at times, I hate it how her character makes it seem to dawsons creek-y for me. She has her moments though.

If thare is a bright side then maybe Pete can return on Smallville to replace Lana.

Personally I dont see what Clark sees in Lana since him and Chloe have better chemistry. Also she makes Clark loosen up more instead of acting all broody.

Johnny_Luck
03-13-2008, 11:53 PM
Chloe and Clark really don't have romantic chemistry though, he and Lana clearly do(watch the kiss in Red again to see how much they work, and theres plenty of later evidence as well, and this season they worked out pretty well.)

Oh and if Pete(Mr. cannot act to save my life) whose history shows any episode with more him then need be is suckage) would be a horrible, horrible replacement for lana. Pete leaving the show was on not only an acting scale but episode scale a really really good thing for smallville.

Not to mention he left cause he's a whining crybaby two year old whom felt that because he wasn't a huge guy in every episode he wasn't getting enough screen time and thus they were wasting the talent he for some reason thinks he has.

maczero
03-14-2008, 01:52 AM
To Legato - Has there been anything official stating that Dean Cain's character is Vandal Savage because that name was never mentioned on the show?

KenK
03-14-2008, 11:40 AM
Chloe and Clark really don't have romantic chemistry though, he and Lana clearly do(watch the kiss in Red again to see how much they work, and theres plenty of later evidence as well, and this season they worked out pretty well.)

Oh and if Pete(Mr. cannot act to save my life) whose history shows any episode with more him then need be is suckage) would be a horrible, horrible replacement for lana. Pete leaving the show was on not only an acting scale but episode scale a really really good thing for smallville.

Not to mention he left cause he's a whining crybaby two year old whom felt that because he wasn't a huge guy in every episode he wasn't getting enough screen time and thus they were wasting the talent he for some reason thinks he has.

I like him as Mekhi Pfieffer's gay half-brother on ER anyway.

But yeah, let's talk about the return of the only black person in Kansas, and what may be quite possibly the worst episode of the series. . . .EVER! For starters, rarely is shameless product placement used as an actually plot device, but leave it to Smallville to be even more shameless than the law will allow! Not only is Stride Gum sponsoring a concert for One Republic at the Stride NIGHTCLUB, but it seems they've been stockpiling their gum in a warehouse that's got a leaky kryptonite problem, infusing whole packs of gum with the stuff!! Thus trumping kryptonite racing fuel (another episode Pete was at the center of!) as the stupidest kryptonite by-product EVER!!! And what happens if you chew it? As concert roadie Pete finds out, he can stretch any part of his body, his clothes included!!! At least on Lois and Clark, there was some attempt to explain why Superman's invulnerability extended to his suit when he wore it. Here, they don't even try. Anyway, Pete saves Kara, who's kinda sorta dating Jimmy, and has no memory. What follows is just a lot of awful writing, dialogue, and Pete being made to look like the utterly useless punk he never should have been, but the writers ultimately turned him into. The least they could have done back when he was a regular was have him and Chloe bust each other's cherries and get it over with.

And yes, Jimmy's inclusion in the show still pisses me off to no end. Since when is Jimmy Olsen a romantic foil?!? If he's not making Clark jealous for dating Chloe, he's making Chloe jealous for sorta dating Kara!! At the rate Jimmy is moving up the Hot Blonde Totem Pole, he'll be beatin' the crap outta Seal and stealing Heidi Klum from him by week's end!

Jared
03-14-2008, 01:34 PM
That sounds...amazing. Thanks to that summary, now I really really want to see this episode, more than I've ever wanted to watch Smallville in years. Not for the reasons the producers intend, unless of course they're just doing intentional parody at this point.

Johnny_Luck
03-14-2008, 01:50 PM
I like him as Mekhi Pfieffer's gay half-brother on ER anyway.

But yeah, let's talk about the return of the only black person in Kansas, and what may be quite possibly the worst episode of the series. . . .EVER! For starters, rarely is shameless product placement used as an actually plot device, but leave it to Smallville to be even more shameless than the law will allow! Not only is Stride Gum sponsoring a concert for One Republic at the Stride NIGHTCLUB, but it seems they've been stockpiling their gum in a warehouse that's got a leaky kryptonite problem, infusing whole packs of gum with the stuff!! Thus trumping kryptonite racing fuel (another episode Pete was at the center of!) as the stupidest kryptonite by-product EVER!!! And what happens if you chew it? As concert roadie Pete finds out, he can stretch any part of his body, his clothes included!!! At least on Lois and Clark, there was some attempt to explain why Superman's invulnerability extended to his suit when he wore it. Here, they don't even try. Anyway, Pete saves Kara, who's kinda sorta dating Jimmy, and has no memory. What follows is just a lot of awful writing, dialogue, and Pete being made to look like the utterly useless punk he never should have been, but the writers ultimately turned him into. The least they could have done back when he was a regular was have him and Chloe bust each other's cherries and get it over with.

And yes, Jimmy's inclusion in the show still pisses me off to no end. Since when is Jimmy Olsen a romantic foil?!? If he's not making Clark jealous for dating Chloe, he's making Chloe jealous for sorta dating Kara!! At the rate Jimmy is moving up the Hot Blonde Totem Pole, he'll be beatin' the crap outta Seal and stealing Heidi Klum from him by week's end!

I don't know Velocity is still a bit worse IMHO as an episode, I think that even though this comes close its not as bad.

maczero
03-14-2008, 02:33 PM
But yeah, let's talk about the return of the only black person in Kansas, and what may be quite possibly the worst episode of the series. . . .EVER! For starters, rarely is shameless product placement used as an actually plot device, but leave it to Smallville to be even more shameless than the law will allow! Not only is Stride Gum sponsoring a concert for One Republic at the Stride NIGHTCLUB, but it seems they've been stockpiling their gum in a warehouse that's got a leaky kryptonite problem, infusing whole packs of gum with the stuff!! Thus trumping kryptonite racing fuel (another episode Pete was at the center of!) as the stupidest kryptonite by-product EVER!!!This is hilarious because I caught up with Smallville after reading recaps over at televisionwithoutpity.
Back when Pete was a series regular, it was often noted that his screentime often involved shilling for the sponsor. It was so bad that he became known as "Product Placement Pete". I really did want Pete to get some character development in this ep, but I got some serious laughs outta his "gum pimping" dialogue.

Also, can't forget Chloe's "Wow! The flavor really does last a long time!". Oh, Smallville you have no shame. I can only imagine that when Clark does put on the suit, it's going to be covered with 100's of company logos.

Legato
03-14-2008, 02:47 PM
I don't know Velocity is still a bit worse IMHO as an episode, I think that even though this comes close its not as bad.

I think the one whare Lana got possessed by some ancient spirit was bad.

But I agree with the reviewer, kryptonite gum?! Seriously if they need kryptonite as an origin of Pete's powers then they could have atleast came up with something clever than that.

I was half expecting that maybe he was like Chloe but a late bloomer meteor freak.

This episode reminds me of how much Im going to miss Lex when he leaves though, he makes a bad episode look decent enough to watch.

Johnny_Luck
03-14-2008, 05:00 PM
I think the one whare Lana got possessed by some ancient spirit was bad.

But I agree with the reviewer, kryptonite gum?! Seriously if they need kryptonite as an origin of Pete's powers then they could have atleast came up with something clever than that.

I was half expecting that maybe he was like Chloe but a late bloomer meteor freak.

This episode reminds me of how much Im going to miss Lex when he leaves though, he makes a bad episode look decent enough to watch.

Nah Spell is brilliant and Sacred the follow up was one of the best most fun out of them all.

Velocity is the worst episode, followed by Lucy, Truth, Delete, Krypto, Bound and Recruit.

Legato
03-14-2008, 05:25 PM
Nah Spell is brilliant and Sacred the follow up was one of the best most fun out of them all.

Velocity is the worst episode, followed by Lucy, Truth, Delete, Krypto, Bound and Recruit.

I can agree that Krypto is the best example of false advertising I have ever seen.

That episode whare Lana got Clarks powers was more better than Spell and Sacred IMO.

It was the one episode whare Lana actually looked kinda cool. Also that earthquake that was caused by the result of Lana and Clark having sex was funny.

Sean Whitmore
03-14-2008, 05:28 PM
How do you people remember all these frigging episode titles?

I just identify them by, "The one where Lana becomes a witch." "The one with Chloe's mom." "The one where Clark becomes evil. No, the other one. No, the OTHER one."


SEAN

Libaax
03-14-2008, 06:28 PM
I gave up Smallville at start of season 7.


About the rumors of Rosenbaum leaving i hope its true.

I have always felt he was actually a talented actor and deservs a better tv show/movies unlike the models who cant act like Welling,Kreuk,Durance.

Johnny_Luck
03-14-2008, 08:12 PM
How do you people remember all these frigging episode titles?

I just identify them by, "The one where Lana becomes a witch." "The one with Chloe's mom." "The one where Clark becomes evil. No, the other one. No, the OTHER one."


SEAN

Not only have I seen each episode from the first 5 seasons enough times to know what they are called. But I visit www.Kryptonsite.com weekly and they list each name of each episode for each season and on top of that each of the following episodes that are coming up and their names.

Plus I listed IMHO the best 57 episodes of smallville so many times that I can easily name those and all the ones around it without trouble.

Plus I own the first 6 seasons of DVD and the booklets inside list them by name and number so it makes it easier to know as well.

mattx110
03-14-2008, 08:28 PM
sounds like a nifty silver agey nod to elastic lad, what's the problem?

Legato
03-14-2008, 08:29 PM
sounds like a nifty silver agey nod to elastic lad, what's the problem?

The main complaint centering it is the product placement ad involving it. That and the lamest way a person could ever obtain superpowers.

mattx110
03-14-2008, 08:34 PM
The main complaint centering it is the product placement ad involving it. That and the lamest way a person could ever obtain superpowers.
It's slightly better than drinking mass-produced soda and being the only guy to figure out it gives you super-powers.

LexLuthor86
03-14-2008, 11:08 PM
I gave up Smallville at start of season 7.


About the rumors of Rosenbaum leaving i hope its true.

I have always felt he was actually a talented actor and deservs a better tv show/movies unlike the models who cant act like Welling,Kreuk,Durance.

Definitely, but what's he going to do now? Become the voice of Flash again?

SUPERECWFAN1
03-15-2008, 07:31 AM
They should by all rights spin the show into a new name "METROPOLIS" and just have Clark , Lois and a few new characters pop up there. Its obviously not gonna work not having anyone from Smallville be on a show called "Smallville" now...

They can try and have a Superman learning to be a Superman now...

DonC
03-15-2008, 10:03 AM
According to TV Guide's Michael Ausiello, Kristen Kreuk will return for a small number of episodes and negotiations with Michael Roenbaum are just starting.

Question: In last week's Ask Ausiello, you mentioned that "nearly everyone" was onboard for next season except Kristin Kreuk and Michael Rosenbaum. Is Allison Mack included in that "nearly everyone"? — Donny [not me]

Ausiello: Yes, the A Mackster has already re-upped for next season. I hear that keeping Chloe around was a top priority for producers given the uncertainty surrounding Kreuk and Rosenbaum's future involvement. [UPDATE: KryptonSite is reporting that Mack has not, in fact, signed on for next season. While it's possible that she hasn't officially signed on the dotted line, my rock-solid source insists she will be back for "a minimum of 18 episodes." I'll continue snooping around and see what I can find out.] Speaking of Kreuk and Rosenbaum, exec producer Al Gough gave TV Guide's Rich Sands an update on the duo's contract talks. "Kristin will be back for a portion of the season — likely the first third," he said, "and Michael… quite frankly, those negotiations are just getting started. So there's no word one way or the other whether he'll be back next year or not." According to my moles (but unconfirmed by Gough), best-case scenario, Rosenbaum will be in 18 episodes. Second-best-case scenario, he'll do 11. Worst-case scenario, he'll no longer have any use for [a head-shaving razor].

Angelus II
03-18-2008, 07:35 AM
My god, we've entered X-Files territory of a show that simply has no more stories to tell and is being needlessly drawn out. Just end it now. Seriously. Smallville is about The Kents, the beginning of his war with Lex and ultimate failure of his romance with Lana. The Kents are gone and Lex and Lana are leaving this show is over.

Lana had nothing to do with Clark becoming Superman.

Lex?, You expect them to keep him in all the seasons? When is he going to be the super evil villain from the comic? He need to leave at some point to develop him evil mindset even more.

ZT4
03-18-2008, 07:59 AM
They should by all rights spin the show into a new name "METROPOLIS" and just have Clark , Lois and a few new characters pop up there. Its obviously not gonna work not having anyone from Smallville be on a show called "Smallville" now...

They can try and have a Superman learning to be a Superman now...

No, no, the REAL Krypto the Superdog played by Ryan from The O.C comes to Earth and keeps Clark around when he thinks nothing can keep him in Smallville...

Surtur
03-18-2008, 10:04 AM
I do agree before the show goes off the air Clark should begin to train to become supes.

Everytime someone brings up the fact clark really isn't doing much with his powers, he just kinda gives them a dumbfounded look. He even said he'd begin to help the justice league once he dealt with the phantoms, but he hasn't. They said lex had like 30 facilities all over the world up to nefarious schemes and that they needed to be destroyed..


But yeah, the kryptonite gum was just awful. They should just stick with blaming it on the meteor showers. Possibly reveal that all that kryptonite, it made EVERYONE in smallville have the potential to become a meteor freak, but only a certain few actually have powers develop, the rest of the people just have it laying dormant. They could also say parents who don't show any powers may indeed have children that possess powers as well. The show would of been much easier, than having "guy falls into lake with kryptonite" or "girl gets stung by bee's near krytponite" or something.

The problem is once they introduced kryptonite infected people, it would be kinda hard to have a villain from smallville who had powers but not from kryptonite. This is why Clark should move to metropolis, it is a big city, would attract a lot of evil types who want to abuse their powers.

I honestly wouldn't mind having Zor-El as a villain, he is kryptonian but also a scientist, so he has the brains even without being exposed to yellow sunlight. They could have him using tech to empower certain people, etc.

I wish they also would of expanded on the other kryptonian living on earth, i mean they introduced and killed him in one episode..

Hellboy Animated 101
03-18-2008, 10:11 AM
My god, we've entered X-Files territory of a show that simply has no more stories to tell and is being needlessly drawn out. Just end it now. Seriously. Smallville is about The Kents, the beginning of his war with Lex and ultimate failure of his romance with Lana. The Kents are gone and Lex and Lana are leaving this show is over.

........................oooohh no........looks like we know who will die soon.......

Hellboy Animated 101
03-18-2008, 10:16 AM
*ominously quiet tone* uhh, a little snipit from the April 17th episode........

Lex confronts Chloe over having something that he believes she has stolen, and the end result is not very pretty.

hightlight it to read, cause it MIGHT be a spoiler...*breaks down crying*

Legato
03-18-2008, 10:31 AM
*ominously quiet tone* uhh, a little snipit from the April 17th episode........

Lex confronts Chloe over having something that he believes she has stolen, and the end result is not very pretty.

hightlight it to read, cause it MIGHT be a spoiler...*breaks down crying*

Not pretty for Chloe or for Lex?

Surtur
03-19-2008, 08:58 AM
psh, chloe is always pretty.

Angelus II
03-21-2008, 06:33 AM
........................oooohh no........looks like we know who will die soon.......

It hard to tell who going to die soon.

Jared
03-21-2008, 06:57 PM
Come to think of it, it's pretty damn strange that the only thing the kyptonite did to Lex was make his hair fall out.

ZT4
03-21-2008, 08:34 PM
Come to think of it, it's pretty damn strange that the only thing the kyptonite did to Lex was make his hair fall out.

Given he hasnt figured out Clark's powers yet, it also made him and about everyone in the area on a subliminal level incredibly dumb

Legato
03-21-2008, 08:44 PM
Given he hasnt figured out Clark's powers yet, it also made him and about everyone in the area on a subliminal level incredibly dumb

Even if Lex had figured it out they would just invent a scenario whare Lex would forget.

Harding Prime
05-04-2008, 07:55 PM
First off, just want to start with the official information:

Michael Rosenbaum is gone with the character of Lex Luthor. He has written his farewells and the producers have acknowledged that he is not returning as a recurring character, but have not dismissed Michael returning for one last horrah! It has long been speculated that Season 8 will be the last season for Smallville, and they are leaving the door open for a Lex Series Finale Blow Up!

Also, Creators Cough and Millar are departing from the show. They have been around every episode, but will not be returning for, what looks more and more to be, the final season, Season 8.

On the good news tip, two new recurring characters are jumping on board for season 8, and with the additions that they have made in the past with characters like Lois Lane, Brainiac, and Supergirl, I'm sure the two new characters are going to stick right by the mythos. I personally love the origin they have given Kara this season, so close to the new Kara origin in the comics, and hope the two new characters get the same treatment.

They have actually dropped the identity of one of the new characters, and it is a doozey...

DOOMSDAY!

Discussions have taken that he also came in the last major meteor shower and that would go well with the origin story of the character. Or maybe something they have been doing more lately, messing with Brainiac in Krypton circa twenty years ago, will bring him to our earth.

The other character is still a mystery, the official CW word is as followed:

Female villain: Doomsday won’t be Clark’s only nemesis in the upcoming season. The executive producers are tight-lipped about a new female villain they will be introducing, but they can say she will be familiar to many fans and will set her sights on Clark in ways Lex never could. Intelligent, brilliantly manipulative, and dangerously sinister, our gorgeous new villain has one more weapon in her arsenal: Her mutual attraction with Clark may prove to be as deadly as kryptonite for him.

Someone taking over the rings for Lex!

So I want to start the discussion of Season 8 with the following; who do you think the new Female Villain is going to be?

Lord of Denial
05-04-2008, 07:56 PM
First off, just want to start with the official information:

Michael Rosenbaum is gone with the character of Lex Luthor. He has written his farewells and the producers have acknowledged that he is not returning as a recurring character, but have not dismissed Michael returning for one last horrah! It has long been speculated that Season 8 will be the last season for Smallville, and they are leaving the door open for a Lex Series Finale Blow Up!

Also, Creators Cough and Millar are departing from the show. They have been around every episode, but will not be returning for, what looks more and more to be, the final season, Season 8.

On the good news tip, two new recurring characters are jumping on board for season 8, and with the additions that they have made in the past with characters like Lois Lane, Brainiac, and Supergirl, I'm sure the two new characters are going to stick right by the mythos. I personally love the origin they have given Kara this season, so close to the new Kara origin in the comics, and hope the two new characters get the same treatment.

They have actually dropped the identity of one of the new characters, and it is a doozey...

DOOMSDAY!

Discussions have taken that he also came in the last major meteor shower and that would go well with the origin story of the character. Or maybe something they have been doing more lately, messing with Brainiac in Krypton circa twenty years ago, will bring him to our earth.

The other character is still a mystery, the official CW word is as followed:

Female villain: Doomsday won’t be Clark’s only nemesis in the upcoming season. The executive producers are tight-lipped about a new female villain they will be introducing, but they can say she will be familiar to many fans and will set her sights on Clark in ways Lex never could. Intelligent, brilliantly manipulative, and dangerously sinister, our gorgeous new villain has one more weapon in her arsenal: Her mutual attraction with Clark may prove to be as deadly as kryptonite for him.

Someone taking over the rings for Lex!

So I want to start the discussion of Season 8 with the following; who do you think the new Female Villain is going to be?



Odds are Maxima.

Any word on Allison Macks contract being renewed?

Super Hero Guy
05-04-2008, 10:02 PM
Why not just let this show die already?

Legato
05-04-2008, 10:07 PM
Why not just let this show die already?

Um Season 8 will be the last Season. So you will suffer no longer.

1WEBHEAD
05-04-2008, 10:12 PM
Smallville died on me at the moment Season 4 started but came back to life around Season 5 only to leave me later around season 6-7. . .i stopped caring. . .

titanfan
05-04-2008, 10:15 PM
Female villain: Doomsday won’t be Clark’s only nemesis in the upcoming season. The executive producers are tight-lipped about a new female villain they will be introducing, but they can say she will be familiar to many fans and will set her sights on Clark in ways Lex never could. Intelligent, brilliantly manipulative, and dangerously sinister, our gorgeous new villain has one more weapon in her arsenal: Her mutual attraction with Clark may prove to be as deadly as kryptonite for him.

Definitely sounds like Maxima to me as well.

Jared
05-04-2008, 10:20 PM
How can you have Doomsday when you still don't have Superman? If they can't have an Earth-shaking epic battle in downtown Metropolis, what's the point of using him?

1WEBHEAD
05-04-2008, 10:23 PM
How can you have Doomsday when you still don't have Superman? If they can't have an Earth-shaking epic battle in downtown Metropolis, what's the point of using him?

Something has sucker people into watching a dead corpse rot.

Ryan K
05-04-2008, 10:32 PM
Back to the old "New Hot Chick Well" ey?

Seems like just yesterday they dipped their first pail of desperation in there.

I bet money the creators tried to figure out a way to make Doomsday a hot chick but settled on just using Doomsday AND a hot chick.

mattx110
05-04-2008, 10:36 PM
Something has sucker people into watching a dead corpse rot.
2000 seasons of Law and Order prove you wrong. Wait... no, they prove you right... cause they only show the body a minute then solve the crime while showcasing a number of well-trained actors in depthy roles...

Sorry for the confusion.

mattx110
05-04-2008, 10:37 PM
Back to the old "New Hot Chick Well" ey?

Seems like just yesterday they dipped their first pail of desperation in there.

I bet money the creators tried to figure out a way to make Doomsday a hot chick but settled on just using Doomsday AND a hot chick.
After 20 minutes of "your bone portrusion, gives me a bone portrustion" jokes, they decided on a compromise.

Johnny_Luck
05-04-2008, 10:49 PM
Why not just let this show die already?

Cause it been getting its best ratings in the shows history the last 3 years, people still watch, the writing this season has been excellent and theres been about 2 bad episodes this season so far, which is rare for any show let alone smallville. In the first 7 episodes Lara was the only decent at best one, while the rest were good to great. Something that never happened in smallville history before.

Just because superman fans hate it doesn't mean general tv audiences aren't loving a well written show about a hero they could otherwise care less about.

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Any word on Allison Macks contract being renewed?

With our shitty luck she will be back. So I am guessing shes a go.

Sadly KK is the only one of the most valuable three actors and costar even looking to return next season, unless Lex gets the same treatment as her and Lionel finds a way back into the mix.

at least we got Kara and Clark's interaction to look forward too.

Harding Prime
05-04-2008, 11:31 PM
Cause it been getting its best ratings in the shows history the last 3 years, people still watch, the writing this season has been excellent and theres been about 2 bad episodes this season so far, which is rare for any show let alone smallville. In the first 7 episodes Lara was the only decent at best one, while the rest were good to great. Something that never happened in smallville history before.

Just because superman fans hate it doesn't mean general tv audiences aren't loving a well written show about a hero they could otherwise care less about.



With our shitty luck she will be back. So I am guessing shes a go.

Sadly KK is the only one of the most valuable three actors and costar even looking to return next season, unless Lex gets the same treatment as her and Lionel finds a way back into the mix.

at least we got Kara and Clark's interaction to look forward too.

I'm a Superman fan and love the show! But I think the best interaction on the show from day one is Clark and Lex and the foreshadowing that has incurred for the past 7 years.

They kept real good by the mythos of Kara this season which is awesome.

According to the "there is no Superman yet, so how can there be a Doomsday"m its simple, the go pretty well by the comics at least for keeping how a character acts and things, and at this point, there is a Superman, he just isn't wearing the costume. And they can, and I think will, fight it out in metropolis, it is the main focus background of most stories in Season 7.

drwho
05-05-2008, 02:47 AM
Is there any truth to the Super girl spin off rumors?

Lord of Denial
05-05-2008, 04:56 AM
I find it funny that so many people come in here and bitch about a show they don' even watch.

DonC
05-05-2008, 07:18 AM
Is there any truth to the Super girl spin off rumors?


The rumor came from Laura Vanderwhater's grandfather. I'd take it with a grain or two of salt.

Legato
05-05-2008, 10:36 AM
I find it funny that so many people come in here and bitch about a show they don' even watch.

Like they cant find another show to watch. Most of the times I wonder if they are complaining just to get the attention of those who actually do like the show.

Legato
05-05-2008, 10:37 AM
The rumor came from Laura Vanderwhater's grandfather. I'd take it with a grain or two of salt.

Still Smallville is kinda overdue for atleast one spin-off series. Yeah the Aquaman one tanked big time but I had hopes that atleast a Green Arrow series would have been made.

David Walton
05-05-2008, 12:32 PM
How can you have Doomsday when you still don't have Superman? If they can't have an Earth-shaking epic battle in downtown Metropolis, what's the point of using him?

Name recognition.

Johnny_Luck
05-05-2008, 01:18 PM
If they kept to the tone smallville has for the character of stayed along the lines of the first 16 issues of this supergirl run with the gritty/edgy feel to it it be a great show as LV makes a killer supergirl, however I don't think it last past 2 seasons going by spin-offs past.

herogirl
05-06-2008, 11:02 AM
Frankly I am more then OK with no Lana, she bugged me, but no Lex doesn't seem right to me, who will be the villain?

Lana and Clark looked like brother and sister to me, but maybe I'm biased. I'm glad she's gone.

herogirl
05-06-2008, 11:04 AM
Just a silly question here...has there actually been any official confirmation that Rosenbaum and Kreuk aren't returning? Wasn't the show just picked up for another season, like, yesterday?


SEAN

I heard Kruek was going to be filming some street fighter movie or something.

herogirl
05-06-2008, 11:09 AM
Personally, I think Smallville has run a couple seasons too long. If there IS a Season eight, the first part of it should be about getting Clark into the costume with the midway point being the debut of Superman.

Then pretty much have it be Clark trying to adjust into the whole duel identity thing and show what's up with Clark's world and supporting cast reactions now that Superman is in their lives while Clark and Chloe try to track down some scheme from Lex or Brainiac and try to stop it.

And the season/series finale would have Superman saving the day. That's how I would do season eight.

Clark's kind of been adjusting to the duel identity since the pilot episode really. What really needs to happen is Clark needs to tell the world who he is in some way. That's what he's wanted to do for the whole series.

Johnny_Luck
05-06-2008, 11:25 AM
I heard Kruek was going to be filming some street fighter movie or something.

Shes been filming that since like 2/3 weeks before the writers strike ended and it doesn't take til September to film that movie.

Just a silly question here...has there actually been any official confirmation that Rosenbaum and Kreuk aren't returning? Wasn't the show just picked up for another season, like, yesterday?


SEAN

Lex's contract ran out at the end of season 7, they have yet to even be able to resign him to reappear for a few episodes.

KK signed a 4 to 8 episode deal for next season, which extended her contract seeing as she too was done after Season 7 without the contract extension. She really doesn't want to do much more with the Lana character as she thinks the Clark/Lana story should be over and she wants to get into movies(which is where she friggin belongs anyways)

David Walton
05-06-2008, 08:11 PM
Speaking of movies, I honestly don't see any reason now why WB couldn't try a big budget Superman movie that's based on Smallville. I think after eight seasons there's an audience that would like to see some resolution--i.e. Clark's transformation into Superman.

DonC
05-06-2008, 08:28 PM
You would have to introduce the continuity of the show and retell Superman's origin. For example, you'd have to explain that Lex Luthor and Lois Lane have known Clark for years. Who Chloe is. Why Martha's a senator instead of a farmer. All that jazz.

Legato
05-06-2008, 08:36 PM
You would have to introduce the continuity of the show and retell Superman's origin. For example, you'd have to explain that Lex Luthor and Lois Lane have known Clark for years. Who Chloe is. Why Martha's a senator instead of a farmer. All that jazz.

Also after Superman Returns I doubt WB will be doing any Superman films anytime soon. Maybe in about ten or five years.

Samuraixsithlord
05-06-2008, 11:35 PM
maybe the movie exec's will cave and throw in Bruce Wayne for a story arc.

Especially if the ratings start to suck.

But they'd probably ruin him by making him a whining playboy constantly pouting about his parents death when not being a jackass

herogirl
05-07-2008, 08:35 PM
You would have to introduce the continuity of the show and retell Superman's origin. For example, you'd have to explain that Lex Luthor and Lois Lane have known Clark for years. Who Chloe is. Why Martha's a senator instead of a farmer. All that jazz.

DC has actually introduced a Chloe character in the comics. She's not exactly the same as in the show, but she's close. She's still Lois's cousin and she's still from Smallville, but the comic casts her as a younger sibling of one of Clark's classmates.

DonC
05-07-2008, 08:40 PM
DC has actually introduced a Chloe character in the comics. She's not exactly the same as in the show, but she's close. She's still Lois's cousin and she's still from Smallville, but the comic casts her as a younger sibling of one of Clark's classmates.


When did they do that? Last I read, last week, was that DC had scrapped plans to introduce Chloe. The CW network pulled the plug on the idea because they didn't want their character (Chloe) appearing in comics when she wasn't appearing on TV due to the writers' strike. Or something like that.

David Walton
05-08-2008, 09:41 AM
You would have to introduce the continuity of the show and retell Superman's origin. For example, you'd have to explain that Lex Luthor and Lois Lane have known Clark for years. Who Chloe is. Why Martha's a senator instead of a farmer. All that jazz.

I don't think it would be too hard to compress the important aspects of Smallville into a brief summary, particuarly if the movie begins a few years after the show ends. A five minute conversation between Clark and Chloe catching up could cover most of it, and if people were still too concerned about the differences between Smallville and the original movies then it would mean the story wasn't compelling enough to hold their attention.

herogirl
05-08-2008, 11:22 AM
When did they do that? Last I read, last week, was that DC had scrapped plans to introduce Chloe. The CW network pulled the plug on the idea because they didn't want their character (Chloe) appearing in comics when she wasn't appearing on TV due to the writers' strike. Or something like that.

It's just what I heard.

Lord of Denial
05-08-2008, 05:30 PM
www.kryptonsite.com

If this is Doomsday it looks like he is going to suck.

DonC
05-08-2008, 05:38 PM
Can you do a direct link to the picture you're talking about? I don't see it anywhere on their site.

Lord of Denial
05-08-2008, 06:04 PM
Can you do a direct link to the picture you're talking about? I don't see it anywhere on their site.

It's not a picture. it is a breakdown of the two new villians for next season.

It is the first headline on the page.

ZT4
05-09-2008, 04:43 AM
"Superman killed by bartender"

Well...lesser things have happened to greater men...


(sigh)

It better be the guy who flips over the bar during Rick Astely's video.

DonC
05-10-2008, 04:22 PM
It's not a picture. it is a breakdown of the two new villians for next season.

It is the first headline on the page.


If you mean Davis Bloome and Tess, those are breakdowns of new characters. Not villains. Although I'm sure Tess won't be a girl scout.

metalhead_dave743
05-10-2008, 04:49 PM
Clark's kind of been adjusting to the duel identity since the pilot episode really. What really needs to happen is Clark needs to tell the world who he is in some way. That's what he's wanted to do for the whole series.

Yeah, but I mean it would be different this time. Now that part of his duel identity that he's been trying to keep secret would become an international hero loved by everyone who's name is Superman.

The Xenos
05-11-2008, 12:55 AM
Really, what's the point of Smallville without Rosenbaum as Lex? Then again, I gave up on this show seasons ago due to its running hot and cold, then colder and colder for me. To me, my favorite part of the show was the contrasting father son dynamics of the Luthors and the Kents. Also, do I hear Chloe leaving too? Hell, she was a better Lana than Lana.

Lord of Denial
05-11-2008, 04:36 AM
If you mean Davis Bloome and Tess, those are breakdowns of new characters. Not villains. Although I'm sure Tess won't be a girl scout.



Yeah because new villains aren't characters.

They are the villians read the breakdown and it clear as day.

metalhead_dave743
05-11-2008, 08:41 AM
Really, what's the point of Smallville without Rosenbaum as Lex? Then again, I gave up on this show seasons ago due to its running hot and cold, then colder and colder for me. To me, my favorite part of the show was the contrasting father son dynamics of the Luthors and the Kents. Also, do I hear Chloe leaving too? Hell, she was a better Lana than Lana.

It seems like Season Eight is going to go into the "beating a dead horse" territory that Boy Meets World went into.

If they are going to get rid of freaking CHLOE as well, they really need to make this the final season and make it be about Clark finally putting on the cape and becoming Superman. Who's going to be in Chloe's place? Lois?

I mean, without Lex, Lana, and Chloe, it's pretty much now just Supeman... only no Supes yet.

DonC
05-11-2008, 10:32 AM
Yeah because new villains aren't characters.

They are the villians read the breakdown and it clear as day.


Tess works for Lex so like I said, she isn't going to be the nicest person. But the whole "waking up with blood on his hands" thing doesn't prove to me that this Davis Bloome dude is a villain. Especailly when that's just a screen test.

Legato
05-11-2008, 03:10 PM
It seems like Season Eight is going to go into the "beating a dead horse" territory that Boy Meets World went into.

If they are going to get rid of freaking CHLOE as well, they really need to make this the final season and make it be about Clark finally putting on the cape and becoming Superman. Who's going to be in Chloe's place? Lois?

I mean, without Lex, Lana, and Chloe, it's pretty much now just Supeman... only no Supes yet.

Wait I heard about Lex, which is confirmed, yet whare the heck did these Chloe rumors came from?

Ryan K
05-11-2008, 03:12 PM
Wait I heard about Lex, which is confirmed, yet whare the heck did these Chloe rumors came from?

http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TVGuide-Editors-Blog/Ausiello-Report/Ausiello-Scoop-Allison/800039168

Legato
05-11-2008, 08:24 PM
http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TVGuide-Editors-Blog/Ausiello-Report/Ausiello-Scoop-Allison/800039168

Chloe better not die is all I say about this. Yet her death may just actually cause Clark to become serious about being Superman.

If the death of his best friend dont cause him to do that then I dont know what will.

metalhead_dave743
05-11-2008, 08:44 PM
Chloe better not die is all I say about this. Yet her death may just actually cause Clark to become serious about being Superman.

If the death of his best friend dont cause him to do that then I dont know what will.

New Writers and Producers that aren't Alfred Gough and Miles Millar maybe?

herogirl
05-14-2008, 01:02 PM
New Writers and Producers that aren't Alfred Gough and Miles Millar maybe?

That's mean. I'm kind of impressed with how far they were able to take the show without making Clark into Superman

ZT4
05-15-2008, 07:21 AM
"Arctic" has aired in Canada, so for mild or curious viewers who want to be amused early...here's the details on Rosenbaum's exit

Brainiac poses as Kara throughout the episode, having trapped her in the Phantom Zone. He intercepts and kills Edward Teauge, but not before learning from him that Lex has the secrets to controlling "The Traveler". Brainiac poses as Kara and convinces Lex that Clark was sent to Earth to conquer (a nod back to Clark's misinterpretation of Jor-El's direction for him in seasons two and three), Lex travels to the arctic and locates the Fourtress

Meanwhile, Chole is attacked by Kariac, and left in a coma...but she recovers after a long period of "we're punishing the actress holding out on us by having her in a coma all day"...then gets promptly arrested by the feds and kicked out of the WB studio lot before she can accept Olsen's marraige proposal.

Lana awakens from her coma, and sends Clark a "Dear John" video message (Kirsten apparently filmed all her scenes for "Arctic" on the set of Street Fighter), Clark and Lois embrace over the break-up (none of this for when Chole was in a COMA?)

Clark and Lex sqaure off in the Fourtress once Clark confronts Kariac, Lex is armed with an orb that can seize possesoin of Clark's body and mind. Lex chastises Clark for not trusting him and that he will lead Humanity to prosperity. Clark and Lex struggle, and Lex gains an advantage. He proclaims his brotherly love for Clark, but he stands in the way of the human race, before activating the device. The Fourtress collapses on top of the two enemies, leaving us with a cliffhanger (and a clear "is he/isnt he?" status quo for the missing Lex next season. Bring on Bartender Doomsday

Lord of Denial
05-15-2008, 07:29 AM
Allison Mack as resigned with the show for the 8th season.

DonC
05-15-2008, 09:14 AM
Resigned - quit, as in a letter of resignation

Re-signed - to sign again

I'm going to guess you mean she's signed on for next season.

Lord of Denial
05-15-2008, 09:23 AM
Resigned - quit, as in a letter of resignation

Re-signed - to sign again

I'm going to guess you mean she's signed on for next season.


Sorry.

Yeah re-signed on for season 8.

Johnny_Luck
05-15-2008, 10:59 AM
Allison Mack as resigned with the show for the 8th season.

that sucks hard. It would have been great if she left shortly after pete did. The two worst actors in the main cast history right there.

also the way Lana leaves the show in the finale is the most bogus route they could have gone with that, so many better and more importantly original things could have been done for that.

Lord of Denial
05-15-2008, 11:02 AM
that sucks hard. It would have been great if she left shortly after pete did. The two worst actors in the main cast history right there.

also the way Lana leaves the show in the finale is the most bogus route they could have gone with that, so many better and more importantly original things could have been done for that.

Okay I if in your opinion Allison Mack is one of the worst actors I can't take you seriously.

Johnny_Luck
05-15-2008, 11:06 AM
Okay I if in your opinion Allison Mack is one of the worst actors I can't take you seriously.

She, Same Jones III and Erica are the worst three of all main cast members of the show in its History. Tom Welling, might be dry or dull at times but when given good stuff to work with, he actually goes all out and actually works with it. AM is incapable of actually working with the really good stuff and is only capable of going with the characters flow.

she cannot act afraid without going way over the top cheesy and bad, her crying scenes are painfully awful and when shes not doing one or the other she just has the confused face look, thats not acting. Thats scraping by on how your character is written.

the fact she has a well written character somehow blinds some people into thinking shes something more than just really lucky on the show. Episodes like Freak, Progeny, Tomb, etc where she asked by the script to actually act, show that she doesn't know what shes doing and she is painfully awful. Her acting in freak was so bad my ears and eyes wanted to bleed.

ZT4
05-15-2008, 12:35 PM
Mack acts like she's in high school all the time. There's no gravitas with her, no concept that what she's experiancing would WRECK a human being and change them to more of an icier person whose jokes cut deep into you (something that would fit her Watchtower role)

She gets one or two moments of good stuff, but Mack really never grasped that as long as the mythos Superman and Lex Luthor keep evolving, their world gets more dangerous...and she doesnt act the part when that happens.

Micheal and Tom compliment each other the most because they grasp they are creating, or exploring, a delicate history.

Harding Prime
05-15-2008, 07:17 PM
Wow!

I know that this was the end of Lex as a reoccurring character on Smallville, but what they did with his characters "end" was fantastic in my eye.

He basically did what he says he was put on the earth to do every issue he appears in the comics, and that was sacrifice himself to save the world from Superman, but on the show, HE ACTUALLY DID IT!

There conversation in the Fortress was a great end and culmination of their relationship, but i felt it could have been longer. This was 7 years in the making for christ sake, this was the moment we have been waiting for since episode 1 when Clark saved Lex from the bridge, Lex finding out everything about Clark. It was amazing, seven years of my life and I still never thought I would see it happen.

Johnny_Luck
05-15-2008, 07:24 PM
Loved the ending convo, loved the stuff with Braniac, thought that KK did an awesome job in her goodbye package and I felt really bad for both of them, even if she will be back.

However they needed to really really reduce the amount of chloe and Jimmy in this episode.

Legato
05-15-2008, 07:31 PM
Loved the ending convo, loved the stuff with Braniac, thought that KK did an awesome job in her goodbye package and I felt really bad for both of them, even if she will be back.

However they needed to really really reduce the amount of chloe and Jimmy in this episode.

I never agreed with you when it comes to your opinions regarding Chloe but that scene involving her and Jimmy makes the romance scenes involving Anakin and Padme in Star Wars Episode 2 look well done. The delivery was pretty poor and the proposal felt really forced.

I wouldn't mind less of Jimmy since I never found the character that impressive to begin with.

Now I agree that it was well done on Lana and Clark's break up and for a guy that was against the relationship I did felt bad for Clark in the end.

Harding Prime
05-15-2008, 07:35 PM
God, I almost forgot about Lana, that video almost made me cry with Clark. But I am in much agreement that there was too much focus on Chloe and Jimmy that could have been better served with Lex and Clark. I was watching the proposal scene just thinking that "this could be time in the fortress!".

DonC
05-16-2008, 02:37 PM
Interesting note about Season 8 - it's looking like Laura Vandervoort won't be a regular. The only returning regulars are Tom Welling, Allison Mack, Aaron Ashmore and Erica Durance.

To be honest, I hope they do just leave Kara in the Phantom Zone. Her character never clicked with the others.

Lord of Denial
05-16-2008, 02:46 PM
Interesting note about Season 8 - it's looking like Laura Vandervoort won't be a regular. The only returning regulars are Tom Welling, Allison Mack, Aaron Ashmore and Erica Durance.

To be honest, I hope they do just leave Kara in the Phantom Zone. Her character never clicked with the others.

I heard about this earlier and can say I am not so sad about it myself.

Also heard we will get more of Phil Morris as Martian Manhunter and since Justin Hartley's series did not get picked up we might be seeing more of him as well.

They are also saying that season 8 may not be the last as it is CW's most enduring show and a 9th season is possible.

I for one would like it to end at 8.

DonC
05-16-2008, 03:14 PM
I agree. It seems to me like shows are better when they have a specific direction in mind. A beginning, middle and end all mapped out.

alexr
05-16-2008, 03:14 PM
I've only watched the past couple years and have come to the conclusion that's it better than that Superman Returns movie.:evilsmile:

I saw that film and my face felt like it was melting, like those Nazis in Raiders of the Lost Ark!:biggrin:

Harding Prime
05-16-2008, 04:54 PM
I love the show and have watched every episode, but I would be happy with the show ending at season 8 with a dramatic ending of Clark taking his rightful place in the red and blue....and not the jacket and t-shirt.

metalhead_dave743
05-16-2008, 07:49 PM
The only returning regulars are Tom Welling, Allison Mack, Aaron Ashmore and Erica Durance.


So it's Clark, Lois, Jimmy... and Chloe. If those are the main characters, then it's pretty much just the cast of Superman now. No more Smallville, they really need to finally put the cape on him.

I can't believe they are bringing in freaking DOOMSDAY already. I could understand Brainiac, Zod, even maybe BIZARRO but DOOMSDAY.

Spidey-kid1
05-16-2008, 08:02 PM
So it's Clark, Lois, Jimmy... and Chloe. If those are the main characters, then it's pretty much just the cast of Superman now. No more Smallville, they really need to finally put the cape on him.

I can't believe they are bringing in freaking DOOMSDAY already. I could understand Brainiac, Zod, even maybe BIZARRO but DOOMSDAY.

You think they're maybe planning some huge retcon? Now that lex knows about clark, and the justice leage know eachother, and there are all these villains, maybe they'll end theseries with everyone forgetting eachother just to retcon it all out and put it back on the right path to superman. Its an idea I've been thinking about for a long time now.

metalhead_dave743
05-16-2008, 08:16 PM
You think they're maybe planning some huge retcon? Now that lex knows about clark, and the justice leage know eachother, and there are all these villains, maybe they'll end theseries with everyone forgetting eachother just to retcon it all out and put it back on the right path to superman. Its an idea I've been thinking about for a long time now.

Maybe a... a... Crisis?:eek:

Sean Whitmore
05-16-2008, 08:45 PM
Interesting note about Season 8 - it's looking like Laura Vandervoort won't be a regular.

It's the best thing, really. I liked her inclusion this season (the show is always better when it's dealing with Krypton), but she's a grown woman. She can't just hang around the farm all the time being charmingly befuddled about Earth customs.

Spend one episode next season freeing her from the Phantom Zone and then ship her off to the orphanage (figuratively speaking).


SEAN

Ryan K
05-17-2008, 04:38 PM
Ausiello on TV Guide seems to indicate that the Bloome character is Doomsday:

http://www.tvguide.com/ask-ausiello

Question: Any additional info on the casting of Doomsday or the new female villain on Smallville? — Eric
Ausiello: As luck would have it, the official casting breakdowns went out last week, and here are the highlights:

Doomsday
• Real name: Davis Bloome
• He's in his mid-20s.
• He works as a bartender at the hip new Metropolis lounge Ace of Clubs (get it?).
• He plays down his smoldering good looks with a self-effacing wit and down-to-earth soulfulness. But he has long felt like an outsider (hence his nickname). And beneath his charismatic, easy-going demeanor lies a brooding sense of isolation and insecurity. When he begins to delve into the haunting mysteries of his true origins, a darker truth begins to emerge, one of blood and serial murders, one of survival and utter destruction — one in which he is forced to confront the true evil inside of him."

Tess
• Drop-dead gorgeous (duh)
• Roughly 28 years old
• She's determined, sexy, vengeful and has super-strength.
• "While Lex is away, she is in control of his estate and rules it with aggression. She's had intellect and the confidence all her life, though it's obvious she's had some training from Lex as well. But as much as Lex has helped fortify her power, he is also her biggest weakness. She harbors an undying devotion to Lex, claiming he saved her life a few years ago. She carries out his wishes with coercion, force, seduction — anything to get what she wants. And no one can resist her beguiling ways. Even Clark Kent. She doesn't remember anything before the day she met Lex. Once she realizes her previous life is buried below the surface, she's desperate to dig it up."

Whirlwind Dinamo
05-18-2008, 04:35 PM
Really, what's the point of Smallville without Rosenbaum as Lex?

I can't watch this show anymore, it just became too ridiculous

CBR News
07-27-2008, 11:02 AM
In celebration of the team's 50th anniversary, the superstar writer has scripted an episode of CW's "Smallville," which officially brings the Legion into the hit TV show's re-imagined Superman mythos.

http://comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=17458

WorstThingUS
07-27-2008, 05:22 PM
I've been asking about this for the entire time this show has been on the air. Too bad it's a day late and a dollar short.

Ontir
07-27-2008, 05:42 PM
Me too!

Bringing the Legion in about 6 years ago would've done a world of good for this show!

Better now than never.

Donald M.
07-27-2008, 06:21 PM
This show's still around? I'm amazed.

Ontir
07-27-2008, 07:57 PM
Now that Lex is gone it really needs the Legion to bring new life into it! I can't imagine how it will make it beyond this season without Rosenbaum.

Jimmy T. Squirrel
07-28-2008, 02:23 AM
I can't imagine how it will make it beyond this season without Rosenbaum. It doesn't need to, this is going to be the last season of Smallville.

andy khouri
08-01-2008, 02:11 PM
The cast and crew of the CW's hit "Smallville" talk to fans at Comic-Con about the upcoming eighth-season, the possibility of Clark finally learning to fly, and the introduction of the Legion Of Super-Heroes by guest writer Geoff Johns.

http://comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=17553

Kage Kisaragi
08-01-2008, 03:30 PM
I fell off this wagon a long time ago, I will say this much though its nice to see all those actors and other workers managing to stay busy.

Raker616
08-02-2008, 12:26 AM
The only reason I haven't given up on this show is because of Allison Mack, they did a very smart thing by re-signing her.

Ontir
08-02-2008, 04:37 PM
Maybe a Legion flight ring will finally allow him to fine-tune his own power of flight.

The Legion episode is the one I'm intending to watch this year. First one in years!

hYPE
08-02-2008, 05:07 PM
The cast and crew of the CW's hit "Smallville" talk to fans at Comic-Con about the upcoming eighth-season, the possibility of Clark finally learning to fly, and the introduction of the Legion Of Super-Heroes by guest writer Geoff Johns.

http://comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=17553

Legion of super heroes should spicing things up!

suttercain
08-02-2008, 06:04 PM
Crap + Selling Out = Smallville

StoneGold
08-02-2008, 06:26 PM
Crap + Selling Out = Smallville

It's a teen oriented show on the WB. I'm trying to conceive of a way the show could ever sell out. It's what the show was created to be.

Spidey-kid1
08-02-2008, 09:52 PM
I wonder if the Legion will meet bart in season eight. After all, Bart is from their timeline, and he does have a cousin on the legions team.

marshal99
08-02-2008, 09:59 PM
I wonder if the Legion will meet bart in season eight. After all, Bart is from their timeline, and he does have a cousin on the legions team.

Don't mix the comics with the show. Bart from the show isn't from the future , doesn't have a cousin from the future.

Spidey-kid1
08-02-2008, 10:13 PM
Don't mix the comics with the show. Bart from the show isn't from the future , doesn't have a cousin from the future.He did say he was from the future once. Although, it never clarified on whether or not he was joking about it, so we don't know for sure.

And this is something too big to just write off. His cousin is supposed to be in the legion. Would the creators of smallville seriously ignore that?

Lord of Denial
08-03-2008, 06:42 AM
Crap + Selling Out = Smallville

Why does every Smallville thread turn into people posting about how they don't care or don't watch it or how much it sucks?

Alex Dragon
08-03-2008, 09:06 AM
Why does every Smallville thread turn into people posting about how they don't care or don't watch it or how much it sucks?

Because it's a fun thing for them to do. The show doesn't "suck". It's just not the show certain people want it to be.

Solaris01
08-03-2008, 11:20 AM
I fell off this wagon a long time ago, I will say this much though its nice to see all those actors and other workers managing to stay busy.

Same here. They keep on dragging and dragging the show to the expense of character development, logic, coherence, and the Superman mythos itself. Too much filler and nonsense. Meh. The only real good thing about it were Rosenbaum and Glover's acting. I also like Mack, she is very likable.

Solaris01
08-03-2008, 11:21 AM
The Legion episode is the one I'm intending to watch this year.

Same here.

DonC
08-03-2008, 11:42 AM
He did say he was from the future once. Although, it never clarified on whether or not he was joking about it, so we don't know for sure.

And this is something too big to just write off. His cousin is supposed to be in the legion. Would the creators of smallville seriously ignore that?


Yes. You may know that Bart Allen of the comics is from the future and has a cousin in the Legion, but your average Smallville viewer won't know this.

ZT4
08-03-2008, 11:46 AM
Smallville isnt a prequel, it's a reinterpreative prequel, anything that follows it isnt going to be the traditional story either, it's obvious that some things that exist as they are in the comics won't exist as they do on televised material that is subjective to change.

Solaris01
08-03-2008, 11:54 AM
And this is something too big to just write off. His cousin is supposed to be in the legion. Would the creators of smallville seriously ignore that?

Yup. They have also been ignoring about the fact that everybody has met Clark without glasses (Lois, Jimmy, Perry, and others). Besides, the original creators are gone, no?

Johnny_Luck
08-03-2008, 08:25 PM
Why does every Smallville thread turn into people posting about how they don't care or don't watch it or how much it sucks?

Because Superman fans want the Superman they are used to, while the producers and show creaters knew if they went with that route they would have been canceled half way into the first season. They went with a superman which was more interesting. than ever before and actually somewhat likable.

Made the story fun and made a great show. But its not their hardcore mythos superman so it much be complete garbage.

Sean Whitmore
08-03-2008, 09:10 PM
They went with a superman which was more interesting. than ever before and actually somewhat likable.

They did?

Gee, I wish they would have used him in an episode of the show.


SEAN

ZeoVGM
08-03-2008, 11:19 PM
They did?

Gee, I wish they would have used him in an episode of the show.


SEAN

Weird, I see him every week.

Anyway, no one's going to say that the show isn't flawed. It is.

But seasons 6 and 7 are the best in the series. Aside from 4 being the worst season, the show gets better every year. It's still not amazing like Lost or even as fantastic as Supernatural, but it's still a great watch very often.

Syzygy
08-04-2008, 12:03 AM
I recently bought seasons 1-6 on DVD ($10-25 a piece) and watched them for the first time.

I really like the show a lot, and am waiting expectantly for the season 7 DVDs.

Johnny_Luck
08-04-2008, 12:17 AM
They did?

Gee, I wish they would have used him in an episode of the show.


SEAN

Weird, I see him every week.
.

Me too, well at least for 20 or so episodes for the last 7 years I have.

CBR News
08-18-2008, 05:01 PM
CBR News takes a trip to Smallville, where we talk with Chloe Sullivan herself,
actress Allison Mack, about Doomsday, Green Arrow, Jimmy Olsen and the rest
of her stable of men on “Smallville.”


Full article here (http://comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=17753).

CBR News
08-20-2008, 06:13 PM
Actors Sam Witwer and Cassidy Freeman talk with CBR News about their
villainous debuts in Season Eight of “Smallville," playing the man who would be
Doomsday and Luthor's devoted Tess Mercer, respectively.


Full article here (http://comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=17786).

DocApoc
08-20-2008, 08:22 PM
this HAS to be the final season for "Smallville" and that's unfortunate. I usually cringe when I see the terms "re-imagining", "re-taking", "our vision", "our interpretation" or "our take" regarding established characters or stories. I mean, I'm all for creativity, but to me all of this re-telling is like sampling that eventually ruined pop music of the past 20 years. Why not leave Superman alone and just have the smallville show based on another alien from outer space? Instead of the 'Battlestar Galactica' re-imagining, why not just do an original series?

I actually suspect that 'they' want to build on an already existing fan base in which to launch their unknown, risky stores and characters. I mean, I'm all for breathing new life into something old or stagnant. The blue and yellow uniforms for the X Men would have looked goofy is they were presented as they were in the original comic books. Though they could have kept the color scheme and it would have looked cool in another format, in my opinion.

It seems that everyone wants to update and re-WHATEVER these stories and characters. When you do that, you lose what made or makes them so popular to begin with. Take The Bionic Woman fiasco. Take the Joel Schumacher Batman movies. The first Hulk movie (which I did like, but hated the story).

Just my opinion

BeauSmith
08-21-2008, 07:35 AM
It's great that Cassidy is gonna be on Smallville. She's a super nice person and really talented. Her Razor Sharp film was a ton of fun and I think she 's really gonna bring a lot to Smallville. Her star is on the rise!

Beau Smith

CBR News
08-21-2008, 05:43 PM
CBR News catches up with the new creative team behind "Smallville," Kelly
Souder and Brian Peterson, to talk about double identities, the Daily Planet
dynamic, and the chance to reinvent a series after seven seasons.


Full article here (http://comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=17801).

Frank
08-21-2008, 06:37 PM
why no videos? I would prefer seeing her than Green Arrow guy :wink:

ChordNohVarr
08-22-2008, 07:24 AM
No objections, but.......???????????...How are they going to mix two very disparate sets of characters and worlds---one world assumes alien worlds and zero magic, while the other assumes a dark tone of EVIL at all times-(Dean is in HELL for pete's sake)--I know Clark is technically vulnerable to "magic" but, other than the vampire bimbos in the Halloween party ep, does anyone remember?
On the whole, though, if they can wrap up this last season and close off these lingering plotlines, who knows what they can do next?

Lord of Denial
08-22-2008, 07:54 AM
No objections, but.......???????????...How are they going to mix two very disparate sets of characters and worlds---one world assumes alien worlds and zero magic, while the other assumes a dark tone of EVIL at all times-(Dean is in HELL for pete's sake)--I know Clark is technically vulnerable to "magic" but, other than the vampire bimbos in the Halloween party ep, does anyone remember?
On the whole, though, if they can wrap up this last season and close off these lingering plotlines, who knows what they can do next?

A. There was the ep when Lana, Lois and Chloe where possessed by 16th century witches.

B. A whole story arc with Lana being possessed by a Isobell and it's implications.

C. The vampire ep had nothing to do with magic at all. Vampire Bats where exposed to Kryptonite and infected Buffy Sanders and she became a genetic vampire not a mystical one.

CBR News
08-25-2008, 03:05 PM
Outgoing "Smaillville" stars Michael Rosenbaum and Laura Vandervoort met with fans in Toronto to talk their future, the end of Kara's story, the show’s past, Gene Hackman, and why Tom Welling is a super prankster.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=17831

CBR News
08-25-2008, 03:16 PM
Actor Sam Witwer joins the cast of “Smallville” this fall to play Doomsday -- just who will this new Doomsday be and what is he up to? Witwer answers those question adore in this video interview on the CBR Yacht.


Full article here (http://comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=17834).

Paradox
08-25-2008, 03:16 PM
“Smallville’s” Sam Witwer

Pffweh...wha'?

EDIT: Aw, no fair...you noticed. :tongue:

EDIT II: Electric Bugaboo: Or maybe Justin did. I'm sure that's beyond Stony's ability to fix. :biggrin:

Harding Prime
08-25-2008, 03:36 PM
Outgoing "Smaillville" stars Michael Rosenbaum and Laura Vandervoort met with fans in Toronto to talk their future, the end of Kara's story, the show’s past, Gene Hackman, and why Tom Welling is a super prankster.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=17831

So what is going to become of the end of Kara's Story. Idk why they just let her go when she was happy to continue.

ZeoVGM
08-25-2008, 04:49 PM
So what is going to become of the end of Kara's Story. Idk why they just let her go when she was happy to continue.

It was budget cuts. They had to let someone go.

Harding Prime
08-25-2008, 04:53 PM
It was budget cuts. They had to let someone go.

Well they were trying to keep Rosenbaum, but didn't, so there shouldn't be a huge budget issue since he has obviously one of the top money makers. That sounds like BS to me. Especially with all the additions they are making.

Lord of Denial
08-25-2008, 05:05 PM
It was budget cuts. They had to let someone go.

And hire 2 more full timers and countless guest stars?

No Lex and no Lana means they have free money to play with.

That can't be it.

Jared
08-25-2008, 05:16 PM
So, "Starkiller" is playing "Doomsday". Possibly interesting.

RagingDemon
09-18-2008, 04:45 AM
Hi guys I just wanted to remind everyone who likes Smallville that the new season 8 starts tomorrow and that you should tune in :D

Spidey-kid1
09-18-2008, 01:22 PM
Hi guys I just wanted to remind everyone who likes Smallville that the new season 8 starts tomorrow and that you should tune in :DSame with supernatural.

4thHorseman
09-18-2008, 01:44 PM
Hi guys I just wanted to remind everyone who likes Smallville that the new season 8 starts tomorrow and that you should tune in :D

I'm trying to catch up on last season. I bought the season last week, started watching last weekend, have two discs left. Recording tonights, should be able to watch it this weekend sometime.

Harding Prime
10-02-2008, 09:12 PM
I for one think that Smallville, so far this season, is kicking Heroes @$$!

marshal99
10-03-2008, 06:03 AM
Not really , so far smallville is rather dull. The focus for this season have largely been on the supporting casts more than clark. Maybe that will change later but at the moment , it is not very engaging.

Has clark even seen writing anything or investigating anything for the professional major newspaper that he has been hired on so far ?

Harding Prime
10-04-2008, 10:30 AM
Not really , so far smallville is rather dull. The focus for this season have largely been on the supporting casts more than clark. Maybe that will change later but at the moment , it is not very engaging.

Has clark even seen writing anything or investigating anything for the professional major newspaper that he has been hired on so far ?

He wasn't hired for that purpose, as far as I can tell. Everyone couldn't buy that he was just but in the bullpen off his cred from the Torch. Well duh, Tess had her eye on him and thinks she can find a link with him to where Lex is.

And the cat story was big. :biggrin: