View Full Version : ressurection of ras al ghul?
Ullar
03-03-2008, 07:35 PM
Can I skip this storyline and still understand Morrissions over reaching story? I've heard this is really really bad.
ChairthrowerLad
03-03-2008, 08:29 PM
Can I skip this storyline and still understand Morrissions over reaching story? I've heard this is really really bad.
yes...yes, you can skip it and, in my opinion, you should.
Spiffy
03-03-2008, 08:40 PM
Just skip it. All you have to know is Ra's is back, so he can be misused again at some point in the future in some other story you might not be lucky enough to miss!
Ullar
03-03-2008, 08:57 PM
Wow I knew this thing was bad but not that bad. It sounds like Batmans' "One More Day". I'll just skip it. Thanks guys.
Captain Jim
03-03-2008, 09:19 PM
Morrison has said that everything he's written in Batman to date ties into this overarching storyline. But I have a hard time believing that this includes the Ras storyline. I didn't hate it as much as many others, but it was certainly unremarkable.
Ullar
03-03-2008, 11:31 PM
Well if it turns out to be important down the road I can go back to it but for now I'll skip it. Thanks.
Definatley skip it, it was awful by anyone's standards yet alone morrison fans.
The ressurection of ra's al ghul should of been called "ra's is already back, now read a bad story" Because by all rights he was alive in the preluede for god sake.
ChairthrowerLad
03-04-2008, 06:25 AM
Although....the Morrison issues were the best of the bunch...not that that actually means very much...being the best individual issue of Resurrection of Ra's and 50 cents will get you a can of Soder Cola
Choppa
03-04-2008, 07:40 AM
There might be some kind of tie in to Final Crisis since the suit that he gets plays some kind of role in it. Also it's going to be brought up in a future issue of 'Tec.
Rattlehead
03-04-2008, 07:56 AM
Maybe just check out the Prelude issue, written by Morrison, as it details pretty much everything you need to know about the whole story. Stay away from the Robin and Detective issues, the Robin issues write him like an idiot, and the Tec issues have awful artwork. Fabian Nicieza's Nightwing issues were the best of the lot.
DirtyHarrington
03-04-2008, 12:21 PM
Tec didn't just have terrible art, Dini just wrote everybody how he wanted to, almost like he didn't know what anybody else was doing at all. The Talia/Batman interaction in his issues was like it was in the animated series which would've been nice if it weren't so out of character for them at the time.
foxley
03-04-2008, 03:43 PM
Personally I don't think it was awful. I quite liked it, although individual parts were greater than the sum. I certainly don't understand the hatred directed towards (and a comarison to "One More Day" is completely out of line. As far as I'm aware, no-one has said that fans who don't want Ra's al Ghul alive want Batman to get old and die).
But if you're only interested in Morrison's overarcing plot then, yeah, you can safely skip it.
Is it just me, or was the ending of the story a big huge deus ex machina? And I don't mean that figuratively! I mean, that a goddess came out from hiding and stopped the fight and the crossover. I had never been so annoyed.
Rattlehead
03-04-2008, 04:54 PM
Is it just me, or was the ending of the story a big huge deus ex machina? And I don't mean that figuratively! I mean, that a goddess came out from hiding and stopped the fight and the crossover. I had never been so annoyed.
Yeah, that was quite stupid. Made the whole thing pointless, and really, there was no need for it to be an 8 parter. The Robin issues added nothing, and Nightwing really didn't even have to be there. Dini and Morrison could have told the entire tale in half the issues.
Choppa
03-05-2008, 07:12 AM
Well wait until Final Crisis to see
cdemink
03-05-2008, 05:54 PM
Actually the only issue of the entire run that was worth reading (IMHO) was the issue not even officially tagged as part of the event - TEC #840.
Mary Nelson
03-07-2008, 10:53 AM
The Talia/Batman interaction in his issues was like it was in the animated series which would've been nice if it weren't so out of character for them at the time.
Turnabout is fair play. How they were written "at the time" was "out of character for them" going by pretty much everything written in the past...
Come to think of it, I haven't seen anyone but Morrison eager to use his new version of the Joker either.
Choppa
03-07-2008, 11:00 AM
Turnabout is fair play. How they were written "at the time" was "out of character for them" going by pretty much everything written in the past...
Come to think of it, I haven't seen anyone but Morrison eager to use his new version of the Joker either.
He said he is coming back to him.
Mary Nelson
03-07-2008, 01:44 PM
He said he is coming back to him.
Which is why I said he's the only one that seems to be interested in using that version.
Choppa
03-07-2008, 01:50 PM
Which is why I said he's the only one that seems to be interested in using that version.
Huh? By "new" version you are referring to Morrison's no? Of course he would be eager to use it. Ultimately the point is really moot since his stuff is always planned out beforehand. So we know that he will return before the end of his run.
carabas
03-07-2008, 02:00 PM
Which is why I said he's the only one that seems to be interested in using that version.To be fair, it would kind suck for Morrison if the loons that write Salvation Thingy got to ruin his Joker before he even got to play with it.
Edged Out
05-04-2008, 04:49 PM
I'm finally able to start reading all my comics from a few months back, and finally tackled Resurrection of Ra's al Ghul today. I was so let down with the ending. I liked everything up until the final issue of the story. Now I know first hand why many were disappointed with the story.
nepenthes
05-05-2008, 01:01 AM
I really hope the Ressurection arc isn't included in the Morrison trades. It should be it's own book and that's it.
carabas
05-05-2008, 01:12 AM
I kinda liked it, except for Dini's horrid and misplaced epilogue.
But I also think it was a completely unnecessary story, that completely invalidates Rucka's excellent Death and the Maidens mini in a way that most ressurections do not.
Normally, a character comingbackdoes not affect the story in which they died. Collosus sacrificed himself to get rid of theLegacy virus, and some alien bringing him back does in no way take away from that sacrifce. The Joker does not becomeany less evil just because Jason Todd crawled out of his grave.
But in Death & The Maidens, Ra's essentially passes the torch to the next generation and commits suicide because he thought that was the right thing to do. Him then sheming to come back makes him a seem cpriceous and flip-floppy.
I really wish Nyssa Al Ghul had gotten more of a chance to shine. she'd have been a much better fit to be one of the leaders of The Society than the relatively non-villainous Talia for starters.
Captain Jim
05-05-2008, 02:15 PM
I really hope the Ressurection arc isn't included in the Morrison trades. It should be it's own book and that's it.
Which is exactly how they're doing it, so you get your wish. :smile:
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