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The Iron Fist
03-02-2008, 06:32 PM
I decided to make a thread for the sales of Immortal Iron Fist and also for new readers to the book. Immortal Iron Fist is one of the best books Marvel has out right now, and the sales for the book are steady. I've gotten my friends to read the book and they love it.
So any new readers wanting to start reading the book, if you have any questions, post them here. :D
vazel
03-02-2008, 06:49 PM
lol is every one of your posts about iron fist?
Yea I'm happy Iron fist is doing good with 30k+ issues being sold.
Expletive Deleted
03-02-2008, 07:26 PM
To me, coupling sales talk with trying to draw in new readers sends a mixed message. For whatever good it might do to tell incoming readers that the book won't suddenly cancelled out from under them, it comes off as more than a little desperate and dangerous if the trends go against you.
So . . . sales are good enough, obsessing about them is counterproductive, and everyone should be reading Iron Fist.
Dpool
03-02-2008, 07:41 PM
With the way good books get canceled its nice seeing people like this
IronKing
03-02-2008, 07:58 PM
I don't see discussing IF's rising sales as a distraction. A lot of people are finally catching on to this book, because they see how well it's doing and how many people are truly enjoying it.
I love it. It's definitely my favorite book at the moment.
The Shadow
03-02-2008, 08:51 PM
A lot of people are finally catching on to this book, because they see how well it's doing
You think people are getting into the book because it's selling well?
IronKing
03-02-2008, 11:02 PM
I meant they're getting in to the book because of how GREAT it is and how well it's doing as a result. When you hear nothing but positive feedback and reviews about something, you're more inclined to check it out.
LungerTony
03-02-2008, 11:13 PM
I love Iron Fist!!! He can kick my face in anyday of the week!!!
dingo
03-02-2008, 11:51 PM
Well, in the spirit of this... something new readers should know.
You know Iron Fist's powers right.
Martial arts.
Hard glowing fist.
That isn't the whole story anymore...
matthewaos
03-03-2008, 02:58 AM
Iron Fist is awesome! I don't see it canceled real soon, don't get to the whole sales paranoia.
Libaax
03-04-2008, 03:11 PM
What is sad i love Iron Fist cause of the first 6 issues i read but my LCS cant order single issues of the ongoing for me cause their order of the series is over.
I stopped reading comics for several months and when i get back to my comics and manga i cant get hold of IFF issues 7-12.
LSC dont see a profit in ordering the single issues for me im the only one reading it apparently in LCS :(
I live in sweden and we are weeks after shipping comics wise. So i have to wait for vol 2 trade to get here sometime.
If it was another comic i just like enough to read i would have download it to catch up but i dont want to that with IIF.
Its the same feeling as comic you love getting canceled you want it bad but you cant have the next issues...
Alex Smith
03-04-2008, 03:45 PM
Well if we should all be reading it...why? All anyone ever says is.."uhh, because it's great." What makes it great? and if you convince me with that, what's a good jumping on issue #?
1WEBHEAD
03-04-2008, 04:28 PM
Well if we should all be reading it...why? All anyone ever says is.."uhh, because it's great." What makes it great? and if you convince me with that, what's a good jumping on issue #?
Dude, Fraction (The SSM Annual! The Order!) and Brubaker(Criminal! DD! Capt. America!) are writing.
That fact alone should make you at least consider checking it out at the store.
Plus, Aja's art is fantastic.
It's still not too late to jump on board from issue #1. Just get the tpb. and go up. The annuals and specials are nice and great reads but if you can't get your hands on them, I wouldn't fret. . .
:)
Matt K
03-04-2008, 05:05 PM
I have a question, are the flashback issues (#7 for example) being collected separately or with together with the accompanying story?
I have a question, are the flashback issues (#7 for example) being collected separately or with together with the accompanying story?
They will be collected separately (except for the annual, which fits neatly in between #9 and #10).
PamGrierOverdrive
03-04-2008, 05:20 PM
Immortal Iron Fist is one of the best revamps in memory. It's a bit of a combination of the old school Snake-Eyes/Storm Shadow martial arts family storylines that ran through Hama's G.I.Joe series and the classic pulp characters of yesteryear, such as Doc Savage or The Shadow. Fraction and Brubaker have put a very contemporary spin on all of this, creating a great new character in Orson Wendell, who comes with a rich backstory filled with fun exploits illustrated by some great pencilers. Aja, the main artist, also brings some very moody linework to the book, which just works to round everything out. The contrast between Aja's art and the art in the flashback sequences by guys like Kano and Sal Buscema really works well. Plus you have a great supporting cast of characters like Fat Cobra, Colleen Wing and Misty Knight to keep things interesting in the present day, while the potential for old school stories featuring Wendell feels limitless. A very stisfying read, particularly for somebody like me who has become a cynic in his old age regarding Marvel's ability to deliver a quality monthly.
The Iron Fist
03-08-2008, 06:11 PM
Any new readers have any questions to ask before starting the book?
To me, coupling sales talk with trying to draw in new readers sends a mixed message. For whatever good it might do to tell incoming readers that the book won't suddenly cancelled out from under them, it comes off as more than a little desperate and dangerous if the trends go against you.
So . . . sales are good enough, obsessing about them is counterproductive, and everyone should be reading Iron Fist.
That wasn't my intention at all. I have no worries of the book getting cancelled cause Brubaker stated the book is selling better than we all think. It was only to talk about where each issue of Iron Fist was selling at.
Immortal Iron Fist is one of the best revamps in memory. It's a bit of a combination of the old school Snake-Eyes/Storm Shadow martial arts family storylines that ran through Hama's G.I.Joe series and the classic pulp characters of yesteryear, such as Doc Savage or The Shadow. Fraction and Brubaker have put a very contemporary spin on all of this, creating a great new character in Orson Wendell, who comes with a rich backstory filled with fun exploits illustrated by some great pencilers. Aja, the main artist, also brings some very moody linework to the book, which just works to round everything out. The contrast between Aja's art and the art in the flashback sequences by guys like Kano and Sal Buscema really works well. Plus you have a great supporting cast of characters like Fat Cobra, Colleen Wing and Misty Knight to keep things interesting in the present day, while the potential for old school stories featuring Wendell feels limitless. A very stisfying read, particularly for somebody like me who has become a cynic in his old age regarding Marvel's ability to deliver a quality monthly.
I couldn't agree more, the characters introduced so far have been great. Plus, we'll be seeing more of them after the second arc ends. :D
Teh m0nk3y
03-08-2008, 07:02 PM
The Immortal Iron Fist series reminds me a lot of another classic fan favorite: Starman. Fraction and Brubaker have emphasized heavily on the legacy aspect of the Iron Fist tittle. Revealed that there's more to the name than Danny previously knew.
SweetVampireBuddha
03-08-2008, 10:48 PM
Fraction and Brubaker have put a very contemporary spin on all of this, creating a great new character in Orson Wendell, who comes with a rich backstory filled with fun exploits illustrated by some great pencilers.
I think you meant Orson Randall, but you''re exactly correct in everything else you said.
Maybe instead of trying to convince people that this book is as great as everyone says, we should challenge them to read it and not like it. That might be easier. lol :D
Asian_Invasion
03-09-2008, 12:56 AM
I might give it a try, since I haven't heard anything bad about it.
IronKing
03-09-2008, 01:05 AM
Give it a shot. You check out Iron Fist, I'll check out Nova. Deal? :)
seeso
03-09-2008, 01:41 AM
Well if we should all be reading it...why? All anyone ever says is.."uhh, because it's great." What makes it great? and if you convince me with that, what's a good jumping on issue #?
Kung fu tournaments. Old-school Heroes for Hire cameos. A deepening of the Iron Fist mythos. New uses of the Iron Fist power. Amazing art by Aja. Brubaker and Fraction.
Did I mention the kung fu tournament?
Pick it up, you won't be disappointed.
Give it a shot. You check out Iron Fist, I'll check out Nova. Deal? :)
Nova's awesome, too.
Libaax
03-14-2008, 05:25 PM
Im reading issues 8-11 right now finally. Its beyond awesome. Kung Fu tournament in a marvel comic sounded lame before you read IIF!!
I wonder one thing as newbie IF fan who doesnt know much about Steel Serpent or Davos. When did he become HYDRA boss? I have seen HYDRA in other superhero comics but never as Davos as their boss.
The Iron Fist
03-23-2008, 06:49 PM
Any new readers picking this book up?
As for Davos as Hydra leader, I think we'll get more of an explanation in #14, it's a double sized issue afterall. :D
wallred
03-23-2008, 08:01 PM
I've been hearing nothing but good things about Iron Fist, so I'm considering picking it up. What issues should I be looking for (I've seen specials and annuals mentioned)...anybody got a checklist?
Hi-Fi
03-23-2008, 08:06 PM
I've been hearing nothing but good things about Iron Fist, so I'm considering picking it up. What issues should I be looking for (I've seen specials and limited series mentioned)...anybody got a checklist?
Immortal Iron Fist #1-13
Immortal Iron Fist Annual #1
Immortal Iron Fist One-Shot: Orson Randall and The Green Mist of Death
filthysize
03-23-2008, 08:15 PM
My typical response to someone asking "Why makes it so great that I should start reading it?" is "Because not liking it would be like punching your own mother in the tit."
mushroom2703
03-23-2008, 08:49 PM
Absolutely phenomenal book. I just got round to picking up the first trade last week after waiting ages to get my hands on it, and it was by far worth the wait. Bendis keep Ironfist in the background for a long while in Daredevil, but Brubaker has given the character the treatment he really really deserves. Try picking up an issue and not like it. Just try.
wallred
03-23-2008, 10:02 PM
Immortal Iron Fist #1-13
Immortal Iron Fist Annual #1
Immortal Iron Fist One-Shot: Orson Randall and The Green Mist of Death
Thanks...I'll scope these out the next time I'm at the shop.
StrangeD
03-24-2008, 12:37 AM
Well if we should all be reading it...why? All anyone ever says is.."uhh, because it's great." What makes it great? and if you convince me with that, what's a good jumping on issue #?
A good jumping point at this point would be #15 since, #14 is the finale of the Seven Capital Cities of Heaven arc. But I highly recommended getting the first 2 trades. Great art. Compelling and engrossing story. Great deepening of the Iron fist mythos that hooks you in. Great characters and great one liners. You won't regret picking up this book.
PastePotPete
03-24-2008, 12:59 AM
How about this? I will challenge anyone who does not like Immortal Iron Fist to battle me, one on one, in a martial arts bout.
You can use whatever martial arts style you like: Savate, Pentjak Silat, Capoeira. If you don't love the first issue of Iron Fist that you read, my kung-fu will destroy you.
Libaax
03-24-2008, 05:55 AM
Any new readers picking this book up?
As for Davos as Hydra leader, I think we'll get more of an explanation in #14, it's a double sized issue afterall. :D
Good to know i was feeling like i missed something that has already been explained somewhere else.
Flâneur
03-24-2008, 06:20 AM
What's the writing style of the issues like? Retro? Shocktastic? Silly?
Karl H
03-24-2008, 06:24 AM
What's the writing style of the issues like? Retro? Shocktastic? Silly?
Bru-y.
It's slightly dark, but with Ninja's. Lots and lots of Ninjas. It's like someone took the Matrix's good bits threw in a lot of mythological magic (you'd like that bit) and took the good bits out of Monkey and the Waterline all wrapped up in a comic. Think the ninja bits from Frank Miller's Daredevil but in Widescreen noir.
Porcelain
03-24-2008, 06:26 AM
Pulp, modern with a retro feel. Kinda like old school serialisation (think Indianna Jones) mixed with modern balls & characterisation with a hint of noir for texture.
Libaax
03-24-2008, 06:31 AM
Which is why i hope Bru doesnt leave the comic over totally to Fraction(not a diss) you can feel his style through the issues.
Also Hope Aja draws much more than he has done in the last issues and doesnt leave for many years ! His art is perfect match for the comic.
Porcelain
03-24-2008, 06:38 AM
Love Aja to bits, big ditto, don't mind other artists giving him breaks but his stuff is seriously addictive.
I actually find it quite hard to seperate out the Bru from the Frac. Always assumed the one liners and adventure/fun is more Frac's leaning yet The Order has come across as rather dark & serious in tone (even a tad noirish).
Libaax
03-24-2008, 06:56 AM
Love Aja to bits, big ditto, don't mind other artists giving him breaks but his stuff is seriously addictive.
I actually find it quite hard to seperate out the Bru from the Frac. Always assumed the one liners and adventure/fun is more Frac's leaning yet The Order has come across as rather dark & serious in tone (even a tad noirish).
Yeah it not easy knowing which does what early in the series specially since i havent read Fraction except the Punisher Journal issue that as Max Punisher fan disgusted me and made erase it from my mind.
But i have read many comics written by Bru specially his older Noir/crime/spy stuff that you know his style and reconize some things.
Flâneur
03-24-2008, 08:10 AM
Bru-y.
It's slightly dark, but with Ninja's. Lots and lots of Ninjas. It's like someone took the Matrix's good bits threw in a lot of mythological magic (you'd like that bit) and took the good bits out of Monkey and the Waterline all wrapped up in a comic. Think the ninja bits from Frank Miller's Daredevil but in Widescreen noir.
Pulp, modern with a retro feel. Kinda like old school serialisation (think Indianna Jones) mixed with modern balls & characterisation with a hint of noir for texture.
Hmm! This sounds like my kind of book! I'm going to check it out.
Thankies.:)
Alpha Male
03-24-2008, 12:35 PM
Immortal Iron Fist, IMO, is a title that's like a throwback to the days of Volume One of Iron Fist with the team of Claremont and Byrne and Deadly Hands of Kung Fu. I'm glad that someone at Marvel believed in Iron Fist enough to greenlight another series for him.
Plus I like how Brubaker is a fan of Iron Fist.
KJ Stewart
03-24-2008, 12:47 PM
Well, in the spirit of this... something new readers should know.
You know Iron Fist's powers right.
Martial arts.
Hard glowing fist.
That isn't the whole story anymore...
I haven't seen this yet. So, what is the whole story now?
gorthon616
03-24-2008, 12:56 PM
Well if we should all be reading it...why? All anyone ever says is.."uhh, because it's great." What makes it great? and if you convince me with that, what's a good jumping on issue #?
It's basically the greatest Kung-Fu story ever told.
bringthenoise
03-24-2008, 01:16 PM
It's basically the greatest Kung-Fu story ever told.
But with guns as well!
Optic Power
03-24-2008, 02:47 PM
A couple of questions
1)Does he interact with anyone in the marvel universe?
2)Are things that happen in this book mentioned in other comics?
Hi-Fi
03-24-2008, 02:52 PM
A couple of questions
1)Does he interact with anyone in the marvel universe?
2)Are things that happen in this book mentioned in other comics?
1) Yes. Luke Cage, Misty Knight and Colleen Wing are regular supporting characters.
2) Not yet. Though there was a little reference in New Avengers, now that I think about it.
gorthon616
03-24-2008, 03:51 PM
But with guns as well!
That's what makes it so great.
KJ Stewart
03-24-2008, 04:32 PM
I haven't seen this yet. So, what is the whole story now?
So can anyone answer that?
What is the new extent of Iron Fist's powers/abilities?
gorthon616
03-24-2008, 04:42 PM
The story so far is basically Iron Fist is contacted by another Iron Fist and learns that there is a legacy of Iron Fists before him. As his past is revealed, he is dragged into his responsibilities as Iron Fist to contend in a tournament among other guardian cities. However, the forces of Hydra/other-kung-fu-guy (can't believe I don't remember his name) are working against the Iron Fist, not to mention that the Iron Fist's city is on the verge of a revolution.
As far as new powers, I'd just call it Crouch Tiger Hidden Dragon Kung-Fu done Marvel Style. There's no "extent" to it in the sense that he doesn't have X-level strength or anything. He basically has a bag of crazy kung-fu tricks.
KJ Stewart
03-24-2008, 05:25 PM
The story so far is basically Iron Fist is contacted by another Iron Fist and learns that there is a legacy of Iron Fists before him. As his past is revealed, he is dragged into his responsibilities as Iron Fist to contend in a tournament among other guardian cities. However, the forces of Hydra/other-kung-fu-guy (can't believe I don't remember his name) are working against the Iron Fist, not to mention that the Iron Fist's city is on the verge of a revolution.
As far as new powers, I'd just call it Crouch Tiger Hidden Dragon Kung-Fu done Marvel Style. There's no "extent" to it in the sense that he doesn't have X-level strength or anything. He basically has a bag of crazy kung-fu tricks.
Cool.
Do you know if there are any scans available?
gorthon616
03-24-2008, 06:08 PM
Cool.
Do you know if there are any scans available?
You mean preview scans? I'm sure those are floating around somewhere...
Expletive Deleted
03-24-2008, 06:16 PM
You mean preview scans? I'm sure those are floating around somewhere...A lot of the good bits get posted to scans_daily, too.
gorthon616
03-24-2008, 06:24 PM
A lot of the good bits get posted to scans_daily, too.
Yeahbuhwhat?
as you can see I clearly have never heard of this site....
A lot of the good bits get posted to scans_daily, too.
Half of them by me. :)
Yeahbuhwhat?
as you can see I clearly have never heard of this site....
http://community.livejournal.com/scans_daily/tag/iron+fist
The Iron Fist
03-26-2008, 06:31 PM
If anyone wants to see pictures of Immortal Iron Fist, check the Iron Fist picture thread. :D
ShadowCorsair
03-27-2008, 10:38 PM
I bought the first trade, and I have to say this is definitely a beautiful book. Besides the obvious downside of having to wait, is there any reason why I shouldn't wait for the trades? Is there anything extra special included in the individual issues? and are there any one-shots that might not be included in the trade's that I should try to pick up?
Thanks
Expletive Deleted
03-27-2008, 11:11 PM
I don't think there's any material in the issues that's not also in the trades.
As for one-shots, the Annual will be included in the second trade, and rumor has it the Green Mist one-shot will be included in the third (although that's a long way from being so much as solicited, at this point).
Teh m0nk3y
03-28-2008, 06:01 AM
Does anyone know where the one shot of the first and last female Iron Fist story will be published in trade form? Are they perhaps going to collect the one shot legacy Iron Fist's into one book?
Expletive Deleted
03-28-2008, 07:35 AM
From what I've heard, and keep in mind I could be way off, the third trade will supposedly collect #7 (Wu Ao-Shi), #15 (Bai Bang-Wen), the Orson Randall/Green Mist one-shot, and the short storyline immediately following the tournament.
And, yes, "from what I've heard" does mean I saw Mario post it on another message board.
And I read it on Fraction's board. :)
Libaax
03-28-2008, 04:32 PM
This comic is so good that i cant even wait for the monthly, waiting for the trade would way too much for me to handle :p
It really sucks that i get the monthly issue several weeks ago after US fans that you can forget about talking about the latest issue.
The Iron Fist
03-28-2008, 08:26 PM
And I read it on Fraction's board. :)
Yeah, Fraction's website is a good resource for this book. :D
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