Marvel/DC

[Iron Jake]

Dont you think its about time for another crossover or Vs with DC and Marvel?
i would love to see the DC heroes drawn by someone like Mcniven and have Superman kick the crap out of The Sentry and stuff.
Anyone else wanting this?

[Gloom Cookie]

Yup. I'd still like to see an Iron Man/Batman crossover.

[Expletive Deleted]

I would've loved to see the Batman/Daredevil crossover Brubaker and Bendis supposedly cooked up.

I don't think any crossovers are likely in the near future, though.

[XPac]

Dont you think its about time for another crossover or Vs with DC and Marvel?
i would love to see the DC heroes drawn by someone like Mcniven and have Superman kick the crap out of The Sentry and stuff.
Anyone else wanting this?

During the DC Nation panel at the Wondercon, the DC editor was pretty cold on the idea of doing any kind of crossover with marvel.

And that's a shame. Those can often be a lot of fun.

JLA/Avengers. Batman/Daredevil. Teen Titans/Young Avengers.

The possibilities are just limitless.

[StoneGold]

Except they are inevitably underwhelming. They're special because of their rarity.

[XPac]

Except they are inevitably underwhelming.

Not always.

I think people were pretty happy with JLA/Avengers (which I think was the last one). My favorite comic as a child might have been X-Men/Teen Titans.

[Alex Smith]

Yup. I'd still like to see an Iron Man/Batman crossover.

I'm not big into crossovers but this one fits so perfectly it's hard to not want to see it come to fruition.

[LungerTony]

Iron Man would own Batman.

[HulkSmash666]

I'd love another crossover. Not as widespread as JLA/Avengers, but something substantial at least. It would have to be updated with today's current storylines/continuity/team rosters.

I agree with an Iron Man/Batman interaction/fight/team-up.

I'd also like to see the following-

Dr Doom vs Batman
Spiderman vs Gotham Underworld
Spidey Rogues vs Gotham Underworld
Batman and Batsquad vs New Avengers
JLA vs Mighty Avengers
Apokolips vs Asgard
SHIELD vs Checkmate/OMAC
Iron Man vs Lex Luthor
Wolverine vs Ra's al Ghul and the League of Assassins
Superman vs WW Hulk
Green Lantern Corp vs Annihilation Wave and Phalanx
Hal Jordan vs Nova
Lobo vs Thanos (round 2)


Geezus, I could keep going for ever, but I'll stop here for now.

I'll let others post a few suggestions before I come back and give more.

[SquidSquod]

Iron Man would own Batman.

It's not a VS thing and don't underestimate Batman whom I think has one of the most keen minds among comic characters. He senses anomalies better than others.

But in all Batman/Iron Man is excellent but I rather call the team up Red & Blue. That's Batman wearing his classic Dark Blue costume.

[matthewaos]

I would like to see: new cap/Nightwing, Moon Knight or DD/Batman, and I wouldn't mind a second marvel vs DC.

[marshal99]

Will never happen as long as Joe Q is editor of Marvel.

[Comet Man]

Dont you think its about time for another crossover or Vs with DC and Marvel?
i would love to see the DC heroes drawn by someone like Mcniven and have Superman kick the crap out of The Sentry and stuff.
Anyone else wanting this?

I would actually love to see Sentry kick the crap out of Superman.

I'd love to see a very well written and drawn story of the highest quality about a meeting between Captain Marvel and Captain Marvel. No fighting each other, but meeting, having a good discussion on why they have the same names, and then teaming up to take down a bad guy. Nothing major, something pretty easily done, then the both of them having a beer together afterwards, or, in DC Captain Marve's case, a glass of milk. :)

[gorthon616]

Lois Lane vs. Sally Floyd.... in bikini's fighting it out in the battlefield of the ancients... a kiddie pool filled with creamed corn.

[Gloom Cookie]

I would like to see: new cap/Nightwing, Moon Knight or DD/Batman, and I wouldn't mind a second marvel vs DC.

There have been a couple Daredevil/Batman comics already.

[matthewaos]

who cares? I think they are great characters to work together.

[Gloom Cookie]

I was just pointing out that it had been done twice already.

[Rahul]

I'd really like to see is Superman/Batman vs Sentry/Moon Knight.

[XPac]

I'd really like to see is Superman/Batman vs Sentry/Moon Knight.

Before they do that, I'd like marvel to first team up Sentry and Moon Knight. Parody issues aside, it's such an interesting and fun combo. They strangely have a lot in common.

[psm]

Will never happen as long as Joe Q is editor of Marvel.

I think you mean as long as Didio is the head of DC. He was the one to nix the idea of Brubaker/Bendis doing a Batman/Daredevil mini-series.

Joe Q doesn't have any problems with company crossovers which is evident by the JLA/Avengers being released while he was Eic.

If Didio left or was replaced there is a decent chance you might start seeing company crossovers happening again.

[psm]

Before they do that, I'd like marvel to first team up Sentry and Moon Knight.

Okay, I've got to admit, that would be interesting. The two most unhinged MU characters hanging out would be bad on so many levels.

Hell, throw in the Scarlet Witch and Pietro and I think you have an ongoing series.

Maybe they should be the new Defenders. :)

[Expletive Deleted]

I think you mean as long as Didio is the head of DC.It's both. The story is that Didio (and/or Bob Wayne and/or Paul Levitz, depending on the version) won't deal with Joe Q. When either is gone, crossovers might be possible again.

Or not. I mean, it's not as if we're privy to what really goes on at that level.

EDIT: For the record, here (http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=4075) (and with a follow-up here (http://www.newsarama.com/WW_Chicago_04/DD_Batman.htm)) is the story relating to the aborted Bendis/Brubaker crossover.

[hotrodimus]

id like to see the characters from toybiz's LCBH toyline vs Marvel. heck should be a video game.

anyway for Marvel/DC its hard to follow whats already done like jla/avengers and titans/x-men .. but those are what i would have like to see. but since its been done ( and done right) id rather not hope they make a sequel that turns out to be lackluster.

maybe something on a cosmic level. i loved annihilation and its sequel. how about mixing it up with rann-thanagar as well. wow now that's something id like to see! adam strange, starlord, hawkman, ronan, captain comet, silver surfer, starfire, gamora, lobo, drax, green lantern, nova all in one miniseries!

[carabas]

I think you mean as long as Didio is the head of DC. He was the one to nix the idea of Brubaker/Bendis doing a Batman/Daredevil mini-series.Yeah, but the reason he nixed it was because Jemas and Quesada had turned trash-talking DC pretty much into a full-time job. You just can't put down DC every chance you get, and then expect them to hand over Batman for a crossover.

[psm]

It's both. The story is that Didio (and/or Bob Wayne and/or Paul Levitz, depending on the version) won't deal with Joe Q. When either is gone, crossovers might be possible again.

Or not. I mean, it's not as if we're privy to what really goes on at that level.


Oh, I know story and I completely believe it. However, it boils down to DC choosing not to deal with Joe Q. Joe Q has no problem dealing with them. Or at least hasn't in the past. So the decision is kind of one sided. If DC wanted to do a crossover they could. If Marvel wanted to then they're SOL. So the buck stops with Didio (or Wayne/Levitz).

[Comet Man]

maybe something on a cosmic level. i loved annihilation and its sequel. how about mixing it up with rann-thanagar as well. wow now that's something id like to see! adam strange, starlord, hawkman, ronan, captain comet, silver surfer, starfire, gamora, lobo, drax, green lantern, nova all in one miniseries!

Throw in Captain Marvel, Warlock, and Comet Man, and I'd kill for that!

[XPac]

Yeah, but the reason he nixed it was because Jemas and Quesada had turned trash-talking DC pretty much into a full-time job. You just can't put down DC every chance you get, and then expect them to hand over Batman for a crossover.

Just my opinion... but if the creators have a cool idea that fans would like, then really who gives a dam what one side says about the other. It's a business... these aren't 4th grades. Leave your personall feelings outside, and do what's better creatively and financially.

[psm]

I kinda agree with Xpac. These guys are supposed to be businessmen. I can't imagine this is the first time they've been insulted. I can't imagine Joe Q could have said anything so bad that it would have made them give up on comic that would have been in the top ten that month(and yes a Bendis/Brubaker Batman/DD story would have been in the top ten).

[carabas]

Considering that Marvel would benefit more from this than DC (DC is a subdivision of WB, and doesn't really need the money), why on earth would DC be inclined to allow what would be basically a major shot in the arm for their main competitor (who are a foulmouthed and sophomoric bunch unles they want something from you). A Batman/Daredevil would mean a major boost for Daredevil (and for Marvel's star writer), but would bring very minimal extra exposure for Batman. There is very little financial upside for DC in a Batman/Daredevil book.

[Shade 20x6]

With the way Quesada keeps taking potshots at DC at every opportunity, I wouldn't hold my breath.

Yet another reason Quesada is a bad EIC and an egomaniac. You don't burn bridges with potential investors for childish reasons.

[XPac]

Considering that Marvel would benefit more from this than DC (DC is a subdivision of WB, and doesn't really need the money), why on earth would DC be inclined to allow what would be basically a major shot in the arm for their main competitor (who are a foulmouthed and sophomoric bunch unles they want something from you). A Batman/Daredevil would mean a major boost for Daredevil (and for Marvel's star writer), but would bring very minimal extra exposure fo Batman. There is very little financial upside for DC in a Batman/Dareeevil book.

If a cross over sells well and creates a good story, then EVERYONE benefits. Both companies, and the readers for that matter.

And it's not like DC is purely doing marvel a favor here... the fact is Marvel often has the edge over DC as far as the top selling books on the market go generally speaking.

[Expletive Deleted]

With the way Quesada keeps taking potshots at DC at every opportunity, I wouldn't hold my breath.I don't recall any recent potshots, although I might have missed something. The comments that DC management folks kept bringing up (from the New York Observer article) are four or five years old.

[psm]

I don't recall any recent potshot. The comments that DC management folks kept bringing up (from the New York Observer article) are four or five years old.

Does anyone know exactly what he said? I'm still curious.

Oh and here is a direct quote (http://www.newsarama.com/NewJoeFridays/NewJoeFridays08.html) from Quesada about DC from his Joe Friday articles.


RQ: “Radiate” - Love what you've been doing for Marvel all these years. Putting the company on the map has been inspiring, kudos. Now, here's a question that'll be interesting to hear your answer. If you were E-i-C of DC Comics, what would be the five biggest changes you'd do? Like with Superman? Or with titles, etc.?

JQ: While of course, like all creators I have ideas for many characters, Marvel and otherwise, I wouldn't go into detail here in a public forum. Why would I want to give the competition a leg up [laughs].

In all seriousness, the folks at DC have been doing a great job and they should be applauded for all their hard work.

That bastard. :)

[Expletive Deleted]

Does anyone know exactly what he said? I'm still curious.It was the "AOL comics" bit. Google it along with a few other keywords and you should find a snippet or two. I can't seem to find the original article, though.

[Netley]

I'd love to see Batman all-of-a-sudden appear in the Marvel U right now. The Initiative would try to take him on and then lose, eventually calling in the Mighty Avengers. Batman would be limited to whatever gadgets he had on him, realize the huge power disadvantage, and bail.

Unfamiliar with the Marvel U (this could be a Batman from before DC and Marvel ever met), but understanding that every totalitarian society has a resistance, he uses his detective skills to discover and locate the New Avengers.

I don't know, haha maybe as those around him start being revealed as Skrulls, Batman could eventually be revealed to be shape-shifting martian J'on J'onz (pronounced "Jones," i believe - and therefore somehow anciently related to Jessica Jones and Rick Jones - who played a key role in the conclusion to the original Kree/Skrull War).

Well, that's pretty far-fetched I suppose...I guess all I'm saying is Batman is the DC character that would best fit with the Marvel Universe. (And I'd say maybe the pre-Brubaker Cap is the Marvel character that would best fit with the DC Universe.)

When the whole universes meet, it usually ends up being a cliche'd teeming up of each's baddest villians and a rift in space/time that ends up being fixed, with no change or even significance to either universe's status quo. Need I mention Amalgams?

[carabas]

If a cross over sells well and creates a good story, then EVERYONE benefits. Both companies, and the readers for that matter.Yeah, but Marvel would have benefitted much more than DC would have, them having just crawled out of bankrupcy at the time.

And it's not like DC is purely doing marvel a favor here...At the time, Marvel wasn't remotely as financially secure as they are now.

I don't recall any recent potshots, although I might have missed something. The comments that DC management folks kept bringing up (from the New York Observer article) are four or five years old.They don't keep bringing it up. The Bendis Batman/Daredevil thing was four or five years ago, and hasn't been mentioned ever since (except in conversations such as this one).

[psm]

At the time, Marvel wasn't remotely as financially secure as they are now.


Yeah, but it wasn't their publishing division that made them solvent either. Still isn't, not that the publishing wing is hurting them by any stretch of the imagination.

I believe it was primarily the slew of Marvel movies (especially Spiderman) and increased licensing that allowed Marvel Entertainment Group to come out of bankruptcy.

Regardless, I'm not sure where you are going with this argument. Levitz/Didio already stated that they would have done the story except for the fact that they didn't personally like Joe Quesada. So, they must have felt there was some profit to be gained in going forward. As to who would have benefited more it's impossible to know without seeing the actual contract between the two companies. I would assume that DC would have gotten a higher percentage of the sales because they had the more popular character but I honestly don't know. Like I said that's really just conjecture without out knowing any of the details.

Hell, we don't even know what it was that Joe Q did to tick them off. As far as we can tell (and with Expletive Deleted's help) they didn't like being called "AOLComics". Personally, I find this such a slight offense that I'm actually having a hard time accepting that is what really offended them.

As far as insults go, the fans are much much worse.

[mikekerr3]

Yeah, but it wasn't their publishing division that made them solvent either. Still isn't, not that the publishing wing is hurting them by any stretch of the imagination.

I believe it was primarily the slew of Marvel movies (especially Spiderman) and increased licensing that allowed Marvel Entertainment Group to come out of bankruptcy.

Regardless, I'm not sure where you are going with this argument. Levitz/Didio already stated that they would have done the story except for the fact that they didn't personally like Joe Quesada. So, they must have felt there was some profit to be gained in going forward. As to who would have benefited more it's impossible to know without seeing the actual contract between the two companies. I would assume that DC would have gotten a higher percentage of the sales because they had the more popular character but I honestly don't know. Like I said that's really just conjecture without out knowing any of the details.

Hell, we don't even know what it was that Joe Q did to tick them off. As far as we can tell (and with Expletive Deleted's help) they didn't like being called "AOLComics". Personally, I find this such a slight offense that I'm actually having a hard time accepting that is what really offended them.

As far as insults go, the fans are much much worse.

Maybe they are also comics fans and read one of his interviews.:D

[psm]

Maybe they are also comics fans and read one of his interviews.:D

I meant the fans are much worse at slinging insults towards editors, creators, other posters who disagree, or posters who agree but don't like their tone. Hell, it wouldn't surprise me if some of the fans throw insults at their previous posts just because they've changed their mind on the matter. :)