tan-dan-dan-dan-dan-dan-dan- NEXTWAVE!

[Eliseu Gouveia]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/43/Nextwave_issue_11.jpeg/225px-Nextwave_issue_11.jpeg

So, I´ve got my 2 Nextwave TPB in the mail this morning.
Read through the first couple pages and I already knew what it´s about, but...... man, have you ever had a book so good you don´t have the courage to start reading it because you´re affraid it´s gonna end?
So far, Warren Ellis is GREAT and Stuart´s art is made of both awesome and win.

Are there any plans to continue with the series?
I need my Monica Rambeau fix badly!!

[jadrax]

Gah! I assumed you where reporting the announcement a new series!

[Eliseu Gouveia]

I wish......

Someone should throw Warren a few extra bucks so this thing goes ongoing.

[Christopher O]

I wish......

Someone should throw Warren a few extra bucks so this thing goes ongoing.
The problem was with sales. I think Ellis mentioned that the book wasn't doing well enough to keep Immonen, and he didn't want to do it without him.

[Eliseu Gouveia]

Man, that sucks.
Reminds me of the cancelation of Chase...

I wish readers would venture more into titles other than the usual mainstream ones, there are so many good unknown books that deserve more.....

[twilight]

Nextwave proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that Stuart Immonen is one of the most talented artists working in comics today.

-Twi

[BeastieRunner]

Nextwave proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that Stuart Immonen is one of the most talented artists working in comics today.

-Twi

Then they shove him into Ultimate Spider-Man. Not that I'm complaining mind you . . .

[ThePhenom]

It greatly saddened me to finish the second trade last night, the book had such a great sense of self-irony and those series of splash pages were priceless.

[Christopher O]

LOVE the splash pages. This book definitely rocked hard. Ellis and Immonen are two of my favorite creators. They go together like PB & J or Grant Morrison and Frank Quitely.

[Radioactive Zombie]

Remember, Mark Millar licks goats.

Also, that fight with FFF was all kinds of wrong.

[ultramandingo]

Man, that sucks.
Reminds me of the cancelation of Chase...

I wish readers would venture more into titles other than the usual mainstream ones, there are so many good unknown books that deserve more.....

..........or read the books while they'r on the stands - instead of waiting for trades - so they dont get canceled

[Kid Kyoto]

..........or read the books while they'r on the stands - instead of waiting for trades - so they dont get canceled

Or stop reading anything on the stands so publishers have to go to TPBs. :D

[Pyro]

Or stop reading anything on the stands so publishers have to go to TPBs. :DOh, no that would suck. I can't imagine buying a tpb with ads. I would cry. I can handle them in monthlies though.

[Eliseu Gouveia]

..........or read the books while they'r on the stands - instead of waiting for trades - so they dont get canceled

That IS a good plan.
Unfortunately, I only heard of the book when it had already been terminated. :(

Honestly, how could a book that has lines like:

"- I fire you with bullets, now!"

..be terminated? There is no justice in this world....

[DarkCrisis]

The problem was with sales. I think Ellis mentioned that the book wasn't doing well enough to keep Immonen, and he didn't want to do it without him.

Actually he said the book was doing fine but Immonen had others projects and Ellis didn't want to continue the book without him. So they decided to do mini-series once in awhile.

[ultramandingo]

That IS a good plan.
Unfortunately, I only heard of the book when it had already been terminated. :(


.........well this time you wont have any excuses

bad signal
WARREN ELLIS

* I am *still* beating my brains out on this Marvel
thing. I blame Nick Lowe. He broke my mind
with some hideous jailbaity Rob Liefeld Bucky
character who's apparently floating around there.
This, immediately after he tried to get me to write
a comic about bowler-hatted nonogenarian
sidekick Dum Dum Dugan. In my head, the two
conflated, and I suffered a week of terrifying
nightmare visions of an old age pensioner naked
but for a bowler hat mounting a 14-year-old blonde
dressed as Captain America while yelling MAKE
MINE MARVEL!

[Christopher O]

Actually he said the book was doing fine but Immonen had others projects and Ellis didn't want to continue the book without him. So they decided to do mini-series once in awhile.
Actually...

Okay. I just this second got the go-ahead from Nick Lowe to talk about this. So here we go:

Sales on the singles are okay, if not great. Sales on the first collection have apparently been terrific.

We were on such a roll with NEXTWAVE that I was actually into the idea of doing a second year, which is highly unusual for me and work-for-hire properties. So Marvel sat down and looked at the numbers, as they wanted to do a second year too.

What they found was that, at our current sales levels, they could afford for me to write it, but not for Stuart to draw it. Stuart, as a Marvel-exclusive artist, commands a fee commensurate with his astonishing talent. I'm WFH-exclusive too, but they just send me whisky and loose women and I'm fine. So, basically, I could continue to write NEXTWAVE, but we'd need to find another artist. This, to me, was just wrong. I mean, Stuart would obviously be given a far better job that had actual readers attached to it, but it still seemed a bit like the numbers were conspiring to fire him for doing his job too well.
Everyone at Marvel pitched in to try and make it work, but the numbers were just against us.

So NEXTWAVE #12 will be the final issue of the ongoing series.

(To clear up a common misconception: NEXTWAVE was always pitched as an ongoing series. However, my original intent was to do 12 and then pass it on to someone else. This got garbled, somewhere down the chain of communication, and so the first issue or two got solicited as "part xxx of 12".)

However. The numbers game changes when you posit things in terms of limited series.

NEXTWAVE #12 will be the last issue of the ongoing series: but there will be more NEXTWAVE to come, presented as a sequence of limited series.

This was all worked out some months ago, so I had plenty of time to work the final NEXTWAVE sequence into a conclusion of sorts. #11 even features a twelve-page spread that you'll have to buy six copies of the comic to assemble into its full splendour. Everyone wishes I'd thought of that eight or nine months ago.

That was the news. Return to your duties.
That from Newsarama (http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=87928).

[Brother Zag]

Actually he said the book was doing fine but Immonen had others projects and Ellis didn't want to continue the book without him. So they decided to do mini-series once in awhile.

Yeah, I believe they were snaggin Immonen for Ultimate Spidey at that time. It wasn't take him off Nextwave... now what? More like Bagley's leaving?! Who can we get? Immonen! Yeah... but what about Nextwave (compares sales figures).... uh, never mind.

See, don't be waitin' for them trades!

[Agent_Torpor]

How the hell does Immonen command such a fee? What else has he been doing since Nextwave ended, besides that brief Hellcat run in Marvel Comics Presents?

[Expletive Deleted]

How the hell does Immonen command such a fee?Awesomeness.

[Christopher O]

Awesomeness.
Pretty much.

[Joe Franklin]

Awesomeness.

Quoted for the truth.

Immonen is one of marvel's top 5 current best artists.:cool:

[carabas]

How the hell does Immonen command such a fee? What else has he been doing since Nextwave ended, besides that brief Hellcat run in Marvel Comics Presents?Ultimate Spider-Man.

[K0MMIE]

Warren Ellis did the impossible. Me made Boom Boom entertaining.

[Colossus77]

I guess I am one of the few on-line fans that did not like this series or the art. I generally like Ellis' stuff though.

[Pyro]

bad signal
WARREN ELLIS

* I am *still* beating my brains out on this Marvel
thing. I blame Nick Lowe. He broke my mind
with some hideous jailbaity Rob Liefeld Bucky
character who's apparently floating around there.
This, immediately after he tried to get me to write
a comic about bowler-hatted nonogenarian
sidekick Dum Dum Dugan. In my head, the two
conflated, and I suffered a week of terrifying
nightmare visions of an old age pensioner naked
but for a bowler hat mounting a 14-year-old blonde
dressed as Captain America while yelling MAKE
MINE MARVEL!
Silly Warren Ellis. Dum Dum hasn't been wearing his bowler hat for a while now!

[matt levin]

Basically, I have to say what I've pretty much said everytime this topic comes around:

NEXT WAVE! NEXT WAVE! NEXT WAVE!


gad. how utterly fannish of me. Pity.

NEXT WAVE! NEXT WAVE! NEXT WAVE!


Matt
Next Waving

[Eliseu Gouveia]

Basically, I have to say what I've pretty much said everytime this topic comes around:

NEXT WAVE! NEXT WAVE! NEXT WAVE!


gad. how utterly fannish of me. Pity.

NEXT WAVE! NEXT WAVE! NEXT WAVE!


Matt
Next Waving

:cool: I´ll see your Nextwave and I´ll raise you a :


It's like Shakespeare,
but with lots more punching.
It's like Goethe,
but with lots more crunching.
Like Titanic,
but the boat's still floating.
No, it's not, the mother☠☠☠☠ing boat is exploding!

Nextwave, Nextwave

Dirk Anger
is one crazy mamajama.
He leads H.A.T.E.,
sitting around in his pretty pink pajamas.
H.A.T.E. was formed
by the Beyond Corporation.
Purposely to bring about catastrophic devastation!

Nextwave, Nextwave

Do you want a haircut?
The Beyond Corporations gonna help you out.
Do you need a toothbrush?
The Beyond Corporations got an extra one.
Do you have a stepson?
The Beyond Corporation's gonna rub him out.
Do you see a monster, or a pirate, electric emu, a giant sky rat, a midget Hitler or Pontius Pilate?
Don't call your mom or your doctor,
just pick up the phone and call.

Nextwave, Nextwave

Monica
- is gonna microwave your ☠☠☠☠.
Tabby
- is gonna steal all your stuff.
Aaron - is going to organize your sock drawer.
Elsa - is gonna speak with an accent.
The Captain - his name is The Captain!

Nextwave, Nextwave


I haven´t finished the 2nd TPB but I´m officialy hooked!
So, I was checking Marvel Database (http://en.marveldatabase.com/Monica_Rambeau) when I ran into this juicy morsel:

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/thumb/d/d9/Monicarambeau_earth721_0001.jpg/150px-Monicarambeau_earth721_0001.jpg


"Monica Rambeau
History:
A tourist from Earth-721 who traveled to Earth-616 and impersonated her counterpart here for an unknown period of time. She was eventually returned to her own world."

What the hell.... you mean that the Nextwave Monica is actualy someone from Earth 721?

I guess that would explain a lot but... who asked for an explanation in the first place?

[Expletive Deleted]

I guess that would explain a lot but... who asked for an explanation in the first place?The folks who were whining about Monica not being "in character" in NEXTWAVE, I'd guess.

To be fair, though, this has never been stated in a comic book (and in all likelihood never would be). It's whoever wrote that entry's application of a one-size-fits-all continuity patch that Dan Slott created for SHE-HULK to a completely unrelated situation.

[carabas]

What the hell.... you mean that the Nextwave Monica is actualy someone from Earth 721?

I guess that would explain a lot but... who asked for an explanation in the first place?And this is precisely why normal people avoid comic books at all cost, and books aimed at normal people (Criminal, Crossing Midnight...) are doomed to early cancelation.

[Eliseu Gouveia]

This comic is GENIUS!

It never even ocurred to me when I first read it, but going through it again, I finally realised why Ellie was hit by a car.

The baddies were probably gonna do that anyway, but I prefer to think that she got hit by a car because, with her being english and all, she was looking at the wrong side of the road! :biggrin:

http://www.etherlair.com/images/net/nextwave1.jpg

[enediol]

I love Nextwave - I cry out loud at work every day since it has been cancelled. We don't need 87 Xbooks - we need Nextwave.

[matt levin]

Wave, wave,
for dear old Nextwave,
rave, rave,
rave for more!
Slave, slave,
to afford the next Nextwave,
be brave, be brave,
for surely there's more in store.
BAM!

Matt

[JonniRandom]

HA! I have the Nextwave theme song on my Ipod.

[Eliseu Gouveia]

I hope Warren Ellis manages to get his team back again.

Only prob now is that Aaron is on Ms Marvel and Dirk is dead.

[RedRonin]

Still make me sad this book is gone. It was gold, but remembering it always bugs me. This came out when people were complaining about stories being too long and there wasn't enough "fun" comics out (well they still do) but then none of them wanted this. It's a damn shame.

Hopefully, soon they'll get a mini series going.

[Sentinel K]

A Captain solo series!

[Mister Mets]

Fun series with innovative storytelling.

Good stuff.

[Uproar]

we need a second series but with Immogen on Ultimate Spidey it's not gonna happen soon. Damn.

[Colossus77]

How the hell does Immonen command such a fee?
Good question. His artwork is too cartoony and bland.

By the way, was the Captain's name Captain F---?

[Eliseu Gouveia]

Well, I think he deserves every penny.

I have to confess I can´t see an artist in the current landscape who could replace him on this title (without subverting the book´s tone).

[Ryan Day]

I have to confess I can´t see an artist in the current landscape who could replace him on this title (without subverting the book´s tone).

There are a few. Cameron Stewart and Philip Bond come to mind. Maybe Darwyn Cooke, or, to get really weird, Brendan McCarthy. Howard Chaykin would be an interesting choice, too.

[StarsAndGarters]

The folks who were whining about Monica not being "in character" in NEXTWAVE, I'd guess.

Bah. Nextwave is not out of character. The rest of the Marvel Universe is out of character. Everything would be much more interesting if Marvel continuity matched up with Nextwave.

Stupid in-character fascists.

[DeadXMan]

Nextwave is in continuity everything else is lies and Skrulls

[rwe1138]

Is miss it so much.

[Ghost Shark]

It just does not get any better than this:

http://blog.newsarama.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10002/fff-nextwave2.jpg

[agrich]

Picked it up on eBay.

Read an issue a night for 12 nights.

Just brilliant stuff.

Think I'll re-read it over the next 12 nights. Maybe do that until I'm bored, if that ever happens.

[Constantinople]

I'd definitely buy the trade of another mini-series of Nextwave.

Also, if Beyond Corporation™ have Zombie Switches, surely they could have a couple vats of Dirk Anger clones, right? Some sort of advancement on the Broccoli goons, perhaps.

[matt levin]

just reread the series for perhaps the fourth or fifth time since publication:

and y'know?

the series just gives me joy. Clearly this's one to keep for rereading through one's lifetime.

sigh.
More, Sir? Please, Sir? Can we have some more?

Matt