Stop using your "kids" to support censorship!

[Floyd The Barber]

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This show "Dexter" airs at T-E-N PM. 10 PM. Now you really let your kids watch whatever the hell they want after 10pm and you expect me to believe that you're really worried about what they see???

People should be ashamed of themselves for using "children" to support their quests for censorship.

How hard would it be to give your kids a bedtime, or take the remote, or program good TV for them to view, or block certain stuff, or take advantages of one of the hundreds of ways you could stop them from viewing this show.
No, it's much, much, easier just to boycott it's sponsors and remove it from the air. Please.

The truth is that this "Parent" Television Council doesn't want ANYONE to see this show.

[Ben Morgan]

Huh, Dexter's 3rd season started already?

[DWEarhart]

CBS is airing the first season. Writer's strike thing.

[Floyd The Barber]

Huh, Dexter's 3rd season started already?

Hi, Ben.
I love your wrestling avatars btw.
Yep. On Showtime season 3's goin' but CBS just started airing season 1.

[DWEarhart]

This newer generation of "kids" are a big batch of the kids-having-kids generation. They have seen and heard more vile and profane stuff than those before them.

I've never seen Dexter, so I am unaware of the extent of its blood dance affair, but I will say that the majority of "kids" in the U.S. have already seen some things of equal so-called-disgust. The people angry are the ones that fail to realise why all of America isn't living like they do, I feel. No one in power seems to want to acknowledge or be aware of that, or the idea that the greater number if children in America are seeing these kinds of shows everyday, it seems.

But some these "kids" ain't exactly given some people hope for the future, either.

[Ben Morgan]

I'm surprised they didn't mention the nudity in that article

[noh-varr]

There really is just as much violence and blood seen in Dexter as big shows like CSI and 24. But I guess the parents like those shows so who cares? It's pointless chatter from a bunch of irresponsible idiots who either want people to think the way they do or have the television do all the work in raising their children while the do nothing.

Though Dexter is a good show and glad they are giving it more exposure by bitching about it.

[StoneGold]

There really is just as much violence and blood seen in Dexter as big shows like CSI and 24. But I guess the parents like those shows so who cares? It's pointless chatter from a bunch of irresponsible idiots who either want people to think the way they do or have the television do all the work in raising their children while the do nothing.

Though Dexter is a good show and glad they are giving it more exposure by bitching about it.

In fairness, the difference being that in CSI, it isn't the heroes doing the butchering.

[Acecool]

I love dexter. It is a good show. I think it is not for my kids (if I had any) if they were under 12. After that I mean the stuff they read in school is almost as bad if not worse. I mean I read thinks like the lottery and Oedipus Rex when I was young. Now those things are messed up. I read tons of greek mythology on my own in middle school, and you can't tell me that most of that isn't worse than Dexter. Heck Dexter is practically Frank Castle except with a syringe. I wonder how many kids went to go see the Punisher, or even Rambo. Rambo killed more people in an hour and a half then Dexter has in all three seasons, and I know for a fact that 12 year olds watched that. (I teach 12 year olds)

In any case, 10 pm on a Sunday night is too late for kids to stay up anyway. I see no problem with this airing on TV. Besides, they cut the worse stuff. It is funny too when doax calls Dexter a mother lover because of censorship.

[Floyd The Barber]

It is funny too when doax calls Dexter a mother lover because of censorship.

"I got my eye on you, motherlover!" :eek:
I had to crack the hell up at that line myself.

:D

And I mean really, we're supposed to believe parents are this pretentious and lazy? There are 10,000 different things society has to do to make sure "their" kids are innocent and safe. And they can't even take the remote from them after 10 - frickin' PM??? I mean seriously... who knows anyone this self-important, callous, careless, and self-serving? This is obviously a group that supports censorship of ideas under the guise of "parenthood".

[xnef1025]

It's the PTC. They think Harry Potter is the devil. These are the people who make normal Christians look like fruitcakes. They are wackjobs who should never be listened to ever.

EDIT: Also, they are probably just pissed off that CBS didn't cut out Dex's first victim of the series: the director of a church children's choir who killed children in his spare time.

[Cyke]

The thing that gets me about this particular issue is that the PTC outright acknowledges that Dexter's bood and violence is seriously toned down from its Showtime version. They don't have a problem with that.

Their problem is that the main character skirts the issues of morality and the grey areas of protagonism. So it's not the violence they have issues with, it's the ideas its premise uses to promote discussion.

If that's not blatant censorship, I don't know what is.

[The Xenos]

I think the PTC should take televisions out of their houses and leave the rest of us alone. You know people who can deal with reality and want to parent our own kids.

[EZMOHR]

As a father of 5, I'm worried about any parent that has a young child up at 10pm.

[Chiasm]

"I got my eye on you, motherlover!" :eek:
I had to crack the hell up at that line myself.


Thats going to totally later scenes where Doakes pops around corners. Hearing him yell "Surprise Motherlover" just won't have the same effect.

[EZMOHR]

Thats going to totally later scenes where Doakes pops around corners. Hearing him yell "Surprise Motherlover" just won't have the same effect.

Dude, I haven't watched the CBS Dexter yet, but I'm shocked to hear Doaks or Deb are even still in the show. Hell, every other word Deb says is either Sh!t or F*ck.

[BoosterBronze]

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People should be ashamed of themselves for using "children" to support their quests for censorship.

The truth is that this "Parent" Television Council doesn't want ANYONE to see this show.

Isn't this the free market at work? A group of people don't like something on the air (in this case a show with a serial killer for the hero) and they use economic interests to influence that show being on the air.

The show is on the air to make money, not to champion free speech, so if the PTC suceeds or fails largely depends on the backing of the people willing to boycott a product that sponsors a show they find offensive.

It's the cultual free market.

If you want to see Dexter so badly, one can always order Showtime.

[Floyd The Barber]

A group of people don't like something on the air (in this case a show with a serial killer for the hero) and they use economic interests to influence that show being on the air.

The show is on the air to make money, not to champion free speech, so if the PTC suceeds or fails largely depends on the backing of the people willing to boycott a product that sponsors a show they find offensive.

It's the cultual free market.


If that's what they were really doing, then maybe you'd be right.
It's all just a facade.
You seriously think Burger King's sales are going to actually suffer beyond a one or two bags of burgers from what the PTC thinks? I'm sure people that pretentious are one of Burger King's leading demographics. :rolleyes:

A group of people don't like something on the air (in this case a show with a serial killer for the hero) and they


can change the f@ckin' channel?

Hey, look man. No one's debating whether or not they are allowed to do this kind of stuff. They can.
It's perfectly legal.

What I'm saying is that they are all a bunch of self-important controlling assholes who are actually doing it because they don't want anyone to see this show. And then lying about it and saying it's because they are "afraid" their kids will see it, when there are plenty of other ways for them to insure that they don't.

[Huh?]

Isn't this the free market at work? A group of people don't like something on the air (in this case a show with a serial killer for the hero) and they use economic interests to influence that show being on the air.

The show is on the air to make money, not to champion free speech, so if the PTC suceeds or fails largely depends on the backing of the people willing to boycott a product that sponsors a show they find offensive.

It's the cultual free market.

If you want to see Dexter so badly, one can always order Showtime.

Which brings up an interesting point.

Wouldn't it be great if Americans started boycotting the businesses that members of the PTC et al work for?

For instance, if say one of the members works at Ford, you have thousands of people write a letter to Ford explaining that:

"although I would like to buy a car from Ford, I feel that I can't due to the association one of your employees, Mr. John Doe, has with PTC. PTC is for censorship, and I feel that Mr. John Doe is aiding that movement. Since Ford is willing to hire someone who fights so hard to quell individual expression I feel it necessary to inform you that I will not be buying a car from you until Mr. John Doe is either not employed by Ford or no longer associated with the PTC. Thank You."

[Sean Walsh]

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This show "Dexter" airs at T-E-N PM. 10 PM. Now you really let your kids watch whatever the hell they want after 10pm and you expect me to believe that you're really worried about what they see???

People should be ashamed of themselves for using "children" to support their quests for censorship.

How hard would it be to give your kids a bedtime, or take the remote, or program good TV for them to view, or block certain stuff, or take advantages of one of the hundreds of ways you could stop them from viewing this show.
No, it's much, much, easier just to boycott it's sponsors and remove it from the air. Please.

The truth is that this "Parent" Television Council doesn't want ANYONE to see this show.

They're called "bad parents."

And they're EVERYWHERE

[DonC]

Here's the thing about using kids: "Please, won't somebody think of the children" works a hell of a lot better than "Please, won't somebody think of the middle-aged housewives who have nothing better to do than complain about stuff they dislike!"

[The Xenos]

In another thread there is this fascinating video from the 90s about reaction to a Jeffery Dahlmer comic.

Bits about about the comic starts here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_xrEXKes-I

[Floyd The Barber]

They're called "bad parents."

And they're EVERYWHERE

Amen. We need to organize a new watchdog group called the BPC. I really think it'd solve 99% of the problems of the world if we could just soemhow stop the rampant breeding of self-absorbed evil people.

Which brings up an interesting point.

Wouldn't it be great if Americans started boycotting the businesses that members of the PTC et al work for?

For instance, if say one of the members works at Ford, you have thousands of people write a letter to Ford explaining that:

"although I would like to buy a car from Ford, I feel that I can't due to the association one of your employees, Mr. John Doe, has with PTC. PTC is for censorship, and I feel that Mr. John Doe is aiding that movement. Since Ford is willing to hire someone who fights so hard to quell individual expression I feel it necessary to inform you that I will not be buying a car from you until Mr. John Doe is either not employed by Ford or no longer associated with the PTC. Thank You."

That is a beautiful idea.
Anyone got any tips on how to go about finding out who's involved in the PTC and what else they are connected to/work for?

[The Batman]

Here's the thing about using kids: "Please, won't somebody think of the children" works a hell of a lot better than "Please, won't somebody think of the middle-aged housewives who have nothing better to do than complain about stuff they dislike!"

I just wish they'd complete their thought: "Please, won't somebody think of the children so I don't have to."