Batman Beyond...what happened?

[jka12002]

has there ever been any continuation of this franchise? because it stopped so abruptly. it had so many good rouges *nods to Blight*

[Michael P]

They did their 65 episodes and went home. That's a pretty good run for a cartoon show.

The JLU team used Terry a couple times, once in an episode that was a de facto coda to the whole Dini/Timmverse.

[Choppa]

Terry popped up in one panel in an issue of Countdown. That was his most recent appearance. Hopefully we will never see him again.

[Brack360]

Did you see the JLU episode "Epilogue"? It provided a nice conclusion to Batman Beyond and the whole DCAU.

[Blight]

*nods back* :evilsmile

[rZi]

Didn't this have a brief run as a comic? Or was going to be converted.

[BrikHed21]

Terry popped up in one panel in an issue of Countdown. That was his most recent appearance. Hopefully we will never see him again.

You are a big fan I can tell - I agree he could be gone and that would be OK

[The Xenos]

Didn't this have a brief run as a comic? Or was going to be converted.

There was one for a while. Though like most of the toon based comics, it wasn't part of the main DCU.

[MattXG]

I LOVED Batman Beyond.

I really hope DC starts up a REAL Batman Beyond comic post Final Crisis.

Terry (in the tv show) is far more interesting than Bruce Wayne is at this point in comics.

Come on DC, kill Bruce already!

[The Zapper]

Hopefully we will never see him again.

I second this.

[sixela]

As a cartoon, Batman Beyond was better than anything else.
:evilsmile

[Will.S]

Terry popped up in one panel in an issue of Countdown. That was his most recent appearance. Hopefully we will never see him again.

I second this.
Just curious but why the resistance to this?

[geejtopia]

Just curious but why the resistance to this?

While I was originaly planning on hating it, Batman Beyond turned out to be a wonderful extention of the animated DC Universe, and could work as a possible future in the DCU proper.
I think some people hate just to hate.

[Astonishing X-Fan]

Aside from the series, Batman Beyond had an EXCELLENT DVD movie, Return of the Joker, that is a must-see for fans of the show and batman fans in general.

BB was used in JLU twice, both episodes can be found on the JLU Season 1 set.

[MattXG]

While I was originaly planning on hating it, Batman Beyond turned out to be a wonderful extention of the animated DC Universe, and could work as a possible future in the DCU proper.
I think some people hate just to hate.
Like yourself.

I, for one, don't just welcome change. I foam at the mouth for it.

[geejtopia]

Like yourself.

I, for one, don't just welcome change. I foam at the mouth for it.

....

Touché

[The Xenos]

I LOVED Batman Beyond.

I really hope DC starts up a REAL Batman Beyond comic post Final Crisis.

To that I have to ask, what made Batman Beyond any less real? It had a good running TV show and it had a comic for a while.

Of course, these are all fictional stories. None of these things ever really happened Comic Book Guy walks in, "Get out of my store."

[ZT4]

Batman Beyond's second season was mediocre with a few highlights, it's best stuff was in season one. As far as finales go, you dont get any better than the trilogy of "Out of the Past"* ROTJ, and "Epilouge"



*Yes, I know "Out of the Past" WASNT BB's actual series finale, but it by all rights may as well have been. That scene with Talia saying "DETECTIVE" is one of those underlooked majestic moments of comic-based television.

[Choppa]

You are a big fan I can tell - I agree he could be gone and that would be OK

Lol, yeah I loved it :p

Just curious but why the resistance to this?

The premise was lame. Batman is dark and mysterious to me and highly discplined. Throwing a teenager into a suit took away from that in my opinion. The villians were lame and felt like copies of the originals, and Terry was a clone of every other teen superhero. Oh and the stuff about him being some kind of bizarre clone of Bruce was the icing on the cake.

[Rabid Trekkie]

Batman Beyond's second season was mediocre with a few highlights, it's best stuff was in season one. As far as finales go, you dont get any better than the trilogy of "Out of the Past"* ROTJ, and "Epilouge"



*Yes, I know "Out of the Past" WASNT BB's actual series finale, but it by all rights may as well have been. That scene with Talia saying "DETECTIVE" is one of those underlooked majestic moments of comic-based television.

Actually for me, the second and third seasons were better than the first. Except for the premiere and one or two other episodes the first season (in retrospect, when it first came on I thought it was cool) isn't that good.

And yes, Talia's appearence in BB was incredible, and the twist still freaks me out.

[Maresk]

I loved Beyond, but I wouldn't want it to be part of the official DCU either.

[colossus34]

They decided to ruin the entire franchise by revealing Terry was actually GASP Bruce Wayne's clone....how lame.

[mgs]

Did you see the JLU episode "Epilogue"? It provided a nice conclusion to Batman Beyond and the whole DCAU.

I agree. Though I did not particularly like Batman Beyond at first, I like how they took 3 concepts (batman:TAS, Batman beyond and JLU) and merged them into one, coherent animated DC universe.

[mattx110]

They decided to ruin the entire franchise by revealing Terry was actually GASP Bruce Wayne's clone....how lame.
They actually revealed he was his son. Thanks for paying attention.

[jadehorde]

Batman Beyond's second season was mediocre with a few highlights, it's best stuff was in season one. As far as finales go, you dont get any better than the trilogy of "Out of the Past"* ROTJ, and "Epilouge"



*Yes, I know "Out of the Past" WASNT BB's actual series finale, but it by all rights may as well have been. That scene with Talia saying "DETECTIVE" is one of those underlooked majestic moments of comic-based television.

The JLU eps with Starro-Superman were pretty good.

How fast does this thing go?
Mach 3
Is that faster than a speeding bullet?

[Maresk]

I liked "Epilogue". The idea is indeed lame, but the execution was actually great.

[ZT4]

Actually for me, the second and third seasons were better than the first. Except for the premiere and one or two other episodes the first season (in retrospect, when it first came on I thought it was cool) isn't that good.

Ouch. I can see your argument, there's some superior crackers near the end of the second season, and a good run in the third, but the first fires on all cylanders for me. Anything specificly flawed?

[HeckBoy]

I loved BB. The first and most of the 2nd season were good, but I think by the 3rd season it started to wane big time. Still, I found it a refreshing change to the [animated] Batman mythos. It was nice to see someone else behind the cowl, since we'll most likely never see a proper/long-term replacement in the main DCU.

[filthysize]

I liked "Epilogue". The idea is indeed lame, but the execution was actually great.


This can be said about the entire BB series.

Even Bruce Timm realized that when they first started it would get a ton of negative reactions. But they went on and proved that it can still be engaging despite the shallow concept. And it turned out great. Old Bruce was almost more fascinating to watch then regular Bruce. And they were smart enough to keep bringing up the point that Terry is different and had a hard time living up to the Batman mythos. It's a passing of the torch story that's done very well.

[Scott Evil]

This can be said about the entire BB series.

Even Bruce Timm realized that when they first started it would get a ton of negative reactions. But they went on and proved that it can still be engaging despite the shallow concept. And it turned out great. Old Bruce was almost more fascinating to watch then regular Bruce. And they were smart enough to keep bringing up the point that Terry is different and had a hard time living up to the Batman mythos. It's a passing of the torch story that's done very well.

On that note, my fave BB moment was the convo Terry & Bruce had after Bruce was admitted into the loony bin for hearing voices.

Terry: "How'd you know you weren't going crazy?"
Bruce: "The 'voice' in my head kept calling me Bruce. In my head, I don't call myself Bruce..."

[Silver Knight]

On that note, my fave BB moment was the convo Terry & Bruce had after Bruce was admitted into the loony bin for hearing voices.

Terry: "How'd you know you weren't going crazy?"
Bruce: "The 'voice' in my head kept calling me Bruce. In my head, I don't call myself Bruce..."

Terry: Wait if you dont call your self Bruce thenwhat?
Bruce: :evilsmile
Terry: But thats my name now
Bruce: We'll see.

[Scott Evil]

Terry: Wait if you dont call your self Bruce thenwhat?
Bruce: :evilsmile
Terry: But thats my name now
Bruce: We'll see.

See, Old Bruce = AWESOME.

[colossus34]

They actually revealed he was his son. Thanks for paying attention.

Technically he was his clone.

[Silver Knight]

See, Old Bruce = AWESOME.

Oh yeah:cool:

I just find it funny in 22 centry that nothing in earth or beyond can fix his heart. Lame:rolleyes:

[filthysize]

I don't think there's a term for what Terry is.

[bw38]

Oh yeah:cool:

I just find it funny in 22 centry that nothing in earth or beyond can fix his heart. Lame:rolleyes:
I don't believe that was the 22nd century. It was set 50 years after BTAS essentially. That's still the 21st century as far as I can tell since BTAS took place during the late 1900s to early 2000s (though originally it was the 1930s but well that all changed after the animation changed with the introduction of Superman TAS).

Anyways, there was an episode in BB where Terry and Dona were in an elevator and Gotham had just suffered a blackout (this is the episode where Terry literally fights the Batman suit). Dona was worried and asked Terry what they were going to do. And Terry said, well in the past they had panels that had buttons on them. Maybe this elevator has that?

It went something like that. I couldn't help laugh. It would be insane the day our world reached Terry's advanced world. I mean I know adults joke around punchcards to use computers and 8-tracks but my younger cousins don't even know what a VHS is and I'm still 19.

[Chiroptera]

I'm with some of the other nay-sayers here.

I remember back when BB first came out. None of my friends in school liked it. And it wasn't just the concept, we felt like the dialogue was lousy, the stories were uninspired, and all the villains were crappy knock offs. Looking back on it, I still feel that way, even though it eventually won over a few of my friends.

Terry McGinnis never felt like he blonged in the Bat family for me. He didn't even feel like a Robin. He reminded me more of a futuristic spider-man than a member of the bat clan.

Old Bruce is awesome? Yeah he had a couple of good moments, but mostly he was just a crotchety old bas who, in almost every episode, caused me to think "Damn you, old man, why won't you DIE!?"

Barbara Gordon was... Commissioner Gordon. Wow, what a twist.
Ten was Terry's Catwoman.
Inque was a strange sort of remix of Clayface.
Blight was his toxicity loving psychopath.

Just... Everything felt like a piss poor rehash. It didn't seem like it's own story it was just "Hey, what if we told Batman's story in the future?! And what if instead of making Batman the star of the story we made him some grouchy old man no one could ever liked?"

Everyone seemed to think it was such a marvelous step forward and such a change in story... But it WASN'T A change! It was the same frakkin' story with a new guy in a bat suit and the actual BAtman filling a much grouchier alfred role! Hell we even had the expected Batman turns down an invitation to join the Justice League sort of deal! We had characters that clearly had all the roots based in preexisting character, storylines the same way, everything! All they really did was age a few characters and put them into the roles that were left vacant when older characters died off.


Now, I'm not fan of change to begin with, I LIKE Bruce Wayne as he is now, and I still enjoy reading about him, I don't give a flying bats ass about what might happen if his son, or his clone or anyone else picks up the bat mantle 30 years from now.

But when the change isn't even real change?! Not only do I not like it, I feel a very strong urge to strangle anyone who can't see that it isn't really a change.

[Patient Boy]

I don't believe that was the 22nd century. It was set 50 years after BTAS essentially. That's still the 21st century as far as I can tell since BTAS took place during the late 1900s to early 2000s (though originally it was the 1930s but well that all changed after the animation changed with the introduction of Superman TAS).


I don't think this was ever the case. Computers and TVs were widespread throughout the series, it was clearly not meant to be the 1930s, despite what the architecture might suggest.

[Rabid Trekkie]

Ouch. I can see your argument, there's some superior crackers near the end of the second season, and a good run in the third, but the first fires on all cylanders for me. Anything specificly flawed?

When I bought season one (which I still enjoy, just not as much as the rest) it seemed to me that they were trying to copy ideas from BTAS and trying to force them to work in BB. And while Blight was a cool character, I kept wondering why Batman was having to fight Lex Luthor. Blight always felt to me like he would work better in BTAS with a Batman that could fight in the corporate world and on the streets.

Season 2 and 3 fixed this problem for me. The focused stopped being "Terry really isn't Batman" to "How does Terry become Batman" and they stopped trying to fit BB into the mold of BTAS.

But hey, season one of BB is still better than season one of JL.

[bw38]

I don't think this was ever the case. Computers and TVs were widespread throughout the series, it was clearly not meant to be the 1930s, despite what the architecture might suggest.
There was an interview with bruce timm and paul dini in which they said BTAS was meant to be in the 1930-40s and written to be in that time period. They only created the tv show. TVs were around at the time by the way, perhaps not the Bat computer which was introduced in the 60s.

[Silver Knight]

There was an interview with bruce timm and paul dini in which they said BTAS was meant to be in the 1930-40s and written to be in that time period. They only created the tv show. TVs were around at the time by the way, perhaps not the Bat computer which was introduced in the 60s.

Um no. TV's wherent introduced untill the early 50's

And I belive the look was ment to make it seem Norish and old while still haveing some simblance or semi modern. Thats why(even though the made the villians look like crap and changed the voices) the change into more modern styles for the newer seasons didnt effect me much.

Anyway I am trying to get a petition going to continue the series for at least 1 season. To tie up loose ends and end the series on a high note, and if it does well more seasons.

Any one interested contact me.

[bw38]

Um no. TV's wherent introduced untill the early 50's

And I belive the look was ment to make it seem Norish and old while still haveing some simblance or semi modern. Thats why(even though the made the villians look like crap and changed the voices) the change into more modern styles for the newer seasons didnt effect me much.

Anyway I am trying to get a petition going to continue the series for at least 1 season. To tie up loose ends and end the series on a high note, and if it does well more seasons.

Any one interested contact me.
Just google it. TVs were already commercially available during the late 30s and early 40s.

[ZT4]

When I bought season one (which I still enjoy, just not as much as the rest) it seemed to me that they were trying to copy ideas from BTAS and trying to force them to work in BB.

I didnt see a whole lot of TAS in the first season, the Lex Luthor/Daggit/Thorne ideas surrounding Powers I'll give you, but to me it was more Tyler Stone in execution. I was half expecting him to be revealed as Terry's father or something...but that came with expecting a return in seasons two and three that didnt happen.

I agree about JL's first season. Whole hour of solid boredom combined.