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Prime24

02-21-2008, 06:40 PM

Here's a link for ultimate spidey 119 preview

http://comics.ign.com/articles/854/854039p1.html

I love bendis and this book. i really wish he could write all the ultimate bks i mean look at how much time he spends on supporting characters. you can't help but fall in love with all of them. i can honestly say kirkman hasn't had any scene this good over the past year in ultimate x-men and jeph loeb is too over the top in ultimates 3 showing excessive violence, sex and cheesy dialogue. although the plot is getting better. anywho, i digress; back to ultimate spidey, enjoy!

TheAmazingSpidey

02-21-2008, 07:09 PM

I love it. I love this book. I love Bendis.

Can't wait.

ThePhenom

02-21-2008, 07:10 PM

Yeah, this does look great... I'm really looking forward to it.

Angelus II

02-22-2008, 06:17 AM

That was awesome!!!

ZT4

02-22-2008, 08:33 AM

Excellent scene that finally ties up that whole "wink wink" forboding that had been building for years. Liz insists she's not a mutant even after her powers activate, now that's denial...

IAMFuzzy

02-22-2008, 02:59 PM

I loved the first issue of this arc so much that I'm not reading the preview so it's all new to me when I pick up the issue.

Rufusade

02-22-2008, 03:47 PM

Do you think this is set before or after Kirkman's "Apocalypse" arc?

CMBMOOL

02-22-2008, 04:33 PM

This is going to be a good issue to read about. :p

MattXG

02-22-2008, 08:27 PM

Its amazing that Ultimate Spidey's quality has remained the same/increased despite the number of other books, big name books (Secret Invasion, New/Mighty Avengers), that Bendis is also writing....

MaxofSteel

02-22-2008, 09:32 PM

The awesomeness of this book makes me glad to be a Spidey fan.

I'm itching to see how this arc wraps up.

Hidden Agenda

02-23-2008, 11:49 PM

This really will be Bendis' defining book when his career is done. and what a hell of a book to be defined by.

It is the last of the true Ultimate vision. No pun intended. :)

ddqfpluskick

02-24-2008, 01:52 AM

The only sad part about this issue is it will only wind into Magneto's arrive, who I think is Liz's uncle, a higher up in his organization, or someone who refused Magneto's offer and was killed.

Otherwise this is an awesome story and I want a time machine to go get it right now. This is the stuff I love about comics. It's not teenager thing it's new and exciting.

ddqfpluskick

02-24-2008, 01:52 AM

I think Liz's reaction are perfect to her situation.

Brand

02-24-2008, 02:53 PM

The first issue in the arc was great, and I can't wait to see how #119 turns out. I honestly think this is the most fun I've ever had reading USM. It's definitely the best version of Spidey out there.

HeckBoy

02-24-2008, 04:50 PM

Looks interesting. I can't wait to get the trade. Despite my general ambivalence toward the Ultimate Universe, the Ultimate Spidey trades have been a pretty consistently fun read for me. I havn't been too fond of either UF4 or UX for awhile now, and Ultimates 3 was a big letdown, so it's nice to have something like this.

ultimatespyder20

02-27-2008, 12:14 PM

--Liz flies off from the beach. Johnny wishes to help, but he must leave for FF business. Ice Man zooms off to help Liz out, and Kong starts to lay it on Peter that he should get his "friend" to help Liz. Kong tells Peter he knows he's Spidey in an indirect fasion (Great Scene :D).

-- Ice Man and Spidey both try to calm Liz down while she flies across the sky. Peter tries to tell her that her normal life is not over, and that he himself keeps a somewhat normal life. Liz and Peter then get into the discussion of Spidey going to Midtown High and whether he knows her or not.

-- They try to get her to decide what she should do with her powers, whether to be a good guy or a bad guy. Liz tells them that she can do whatever she wants now, and that she should not have to go to school anymore.

-- Last page, double page spread of Magneto telling Liz that she is looking into the face of destiny.

My Opinion
Great stuff! I'm loving this story that Bendis is telling! It's fun, it's entertaining, and it's everyday Peter Parker the teenager. This is a USM arc not to miss. Immonen's arc just seems to get better and better every issue. If you are not buying this book, then change your mind. Can't wait for next issue! :D

Alec

CMBMOOL

02-27-2008, 07:05 PM

Man, this series is so worthy of reading each time it comes out. :D

dreyga2000

02-27-2008, 07:24 PM

It occured to me today that over the years I have spent over three hundred dollars on this series.... and every penny was well spent. Bendis is hitting toward the 120's and every issue is still golden. Plus I'm really starting to like Immomen.

Erik Lehnsherr

02-27-2008, 09:22 PM

I'll be picking this up tommorrow for my weekly pick up.

megabyte01

02-28-2008, 02:57 AM

I loved this issue. You can tell Bendis has wanted to write this story for a while. Heck, he's insinuated that Liz is a mutant since day one. Now it's up to Liz to decide if she'll become a hero or a vigilante. I cannot wait for next month's issue, partly because i want to read the conclusion, but mostly because i can't wait to see more of Immoen's art. his backgrounds are becoming as expressive as his characters.

Anyone care to take bets on whether kitty will become a good guy or perform a face heel turn?

ddqfpluskick

02-28-2008, 10:31 AM

The only sad part about this issue is it will only wind into Magneto's arrive...

Called It!

Kitty's reactions?

I think it wil depend on Liz's explaination for her mutant phobia. If Liz reasons can justify (in Kitty's opinion) her actions towards mutants than yeah I say Kitty would be more sympathetic.

I'm wondering if Liz's Uncle will either be Magneto or the ultimate version of Toro.

The only thing I don't get is NightCrawler on the next issue???

bbmakdaddycomics

02-28-2008, 06:32 PM

Called It!

Kitty's reactions?

I think it wil depend on Liz's explaination for her mutant phobia. If Liz reasons can justify (in Kitty's opinion) her actions towards mutants than yeah I say Kitty would be more sympathetic.

I'm wondering if Liz's Uncle will either be Magneto or the ultimate version of Toro.

The only thing I don't get is NightCrawler on the next issue???

bendis' spoilers the x-men are regrouped as of 94 and nightcrawler maybe back and this takes place after apacolypse

Last_Avenger

02-28-2008, 08:19 PM

Ok, I"m not a reader of Ultimte Spidey, but I hear many good things about him that make me want to hurt myself for not being a reader.

Anyways, I just wanna aks does anyone aside from me think Magneto's outfit beign as baggy as it is make him look very unmenacing? I mean, at the beginning of UXM he was ripped, and now he's wearing very baggy clothes, WTF?

Angelus II

02-29-2008, 05:44 AM

The ending was a disappointment, with Magneto only showing up for only one page. Jeez, can't we get him in there for like three pages...he's on the cover for sake.

Ok, I"m not a reader of Ultimte Spidey, but I hear many good things about him that make me want to hurt myself for not being a reader.

Anyways, I just wanna aks does anyone aside from me think Magneto's outfit beign as baggy as it is make him look very unmenacing? I mean, at the beginning of UXM he was ripped, and now he's wearing very baggy clothes, WTF?

Yeah, Magneto 's outfit was better at the beginning of UXM.

Brand

02-29-2008, 05:46 AM

MacLeod

02-29-2008, 06:07 AM

Maybe all that time in the Triskelion has affected his physique? :p

And that's another point. Don't Shield believe they still have him in custody (while Mystique and Mastermind are impersonating him)?

But he pops up right in front of Spiderman and Iceman, and judging from next issue's cover, half the X-men are going to run into him too. So much for keeping a low profile!

Angelus II

02-29-2008, 06:30 AM

And that's another point. Don't Shield believe they still have him in custody (while Mystique and Mastermind are impersonating him)?

But he pops up right in front of Spiderman and Iceman, and judging from next issue's cover, half the X-men are going to run into him too. So much for keeping a low profile!

I read that Magneto was in the Ultimates 3.

Magneto and the Brotherhood of Mutants (Blob, Sabretooth, Mystique, Multiple Man, and Lorelei) attack the Ultimates' mansion, and with the help of a despondent Quicksilver, absconds with Wanda's corpse. Right after doing so, Wolverine appears, telling the Ultimates that they have an even bigger problem.

But I'm not really sure, since I didn't read the Ultimates 3.

Blaqueneto

02-29-2008, 11:57 AM

Yep, he was in Ultimates 3. I guess he just doesn't care about a low profile anymore now.
The ending was a disappointment, with Magneto only showing up for only one page. Jeez, can't we get him in there for like three pages...he's on the cover for sake.Agreed.

And Magneto's costume leaves something to be desired. Don't mind the new color scheme, but everything else just looks odd....the belt, the bagginess, the arm wear. His early UXM outfit was much better in that regard.

ddqfpluskick

02-29-2008, 05:46 PM

Maybe he's going with a new trend......

As for the whole cover vs. content thing......I think that is becoming a trend too.

desanth

02-29-2008, 05:58 PM

ddqfpluskick

02-29-2008, 06:02 PM

Though his Magneto look make sense.

Spidey: What happen to the buffness

Mag: Look kid I got an evil mutant terrorist group full of psychotict power hunger sickos to run, insure the downfall of man kind, deal with f****ed up kids, and taunt Charles about it. When do I have have any god d*** time to get to the gym.

Jack

03-01-2008, 02:42 AM

Angelus II

03-01-2008, 07:25 AM

Fold the cover so its on end of the issue. Just read it like that and its an extra scene for the end of the comic.

I liked how Liz kept interupting Spidey from saying the great power, great responsibility thing. I think if she stays in school, she'll figure out Spidey's identity. Great issue as usual, although I didn't care for Immonem's drawing of spidey's arm when he first showed up(its so skinny!) or his Mags.

Wait! Are you asking me to bent up my comic book so it won't be worth anything?

And the cover doesn't make sense. If magneto is on the cover, he should be in the comic for more than one page. Jeez, they could've Firestar and Iceman on the cover--would've made sense. Iceman was the first one to actually help Liz (kinda).

Tobias Drake

03-01-2008, 02:55 PM

Yeah, the cover kinda ruined the surprise ending.

That said...Spider-Man vs. Magneto. I've been wanting to see this happen for too long.

Toboe

03-01-2008, 07:15 PM

Fantastic issue, I'm really loving this arc.

The relationship between Spider-Man, Iceman and Firestar is beginning to flourish here, and I really enjoy their dynamic. Poor Peter couldn't get to say his responsibility speech, and Iceman's "I totally saw her naked" was hilarious.

Looking forward to see what Magneto's plans for Liz are.

Angelus II

03-02-2008, 07:33 AM

Yeah, the cover kinda ruined the surprise ending.

That said...Spider-Man vs. Magneto. I've been wanting to see this happen for too long.

You can say that again!!! This issue would have been better if Magneto was on the last page. Should've ended with Firestar saying "Seriously, what is that?" Besides that, it was a very good issue.

ThePhenom

03-02-2008, 07:35 AM

Loved it, but I think Liz's 180 turn was a little haphanded...

Vapour Trail

03-02-2008, 12:59 PM

Awesome issue. Best series going of the Ultimate Universe by far.

Yaw

03-02-2008, 01:50 PM

Wait! Are you asking me to bent up my comic book so it won't be worth anything?

And the cover doesn't make sense. If magneto is on the cover, he should be in the comic for more than one page. Jeez, they could've Firestar and Iceman on the cover--would've made sense. Iceman was the first one to actually help Liz (kinda).

you are not seriously saying the cover doesn't make sense are you? Covers often lie or mislead about content within the book. This has been going on since covers started. However this cover doesn't mislead whatsoever. This cover depicted a scene straight from the book itself. There has never been some rule that covers should reflect the major theme of the issue..

Yaw

03-02-2008, 02:00 PM

You know, I have always wondered if Kong was Bendis in high school.

Gloom Cookie

03-02-2008, 03:12 PM

Great issue. I love how Bendis can make the scenes where the characters just stand around and talk just as interesting as the action ones. These last two issues have been excellent, and I can't wait for the next.

megabyte01

03-02-2008, 04:03 PM

You know, I have always wondered if Kong was Bendis in high school.

I've wondered about that too, given what's happened in this arc. I think Bendis has been wanting to tell this story for a while, and he is using Kong to help highlight this story's point.

Angelus II

03-03-2008, 05:36 AM

you are not seriously saying the cover doesn't make sense are you? Covers often lie or mislead about content within the book. This has been going on since covers started. However this cover doesn't mislead whatsoever. This cover depicted a scene straight from the book itself. There has never been some rule that covers should reflect the major theme of the issue..

I'm saying that I didn't like the cover. And yes the cover did mislead, it sure have depicted something from the main story, like Iceman chasing Firestar. Not the actual last page of the issue. Also, the last page with Magneto shouldn't be there, it totally wreck the issue.

Gloom Cookie

03-03-2008, 07:17 AM

I don't see how it wrecks the issue at all.

Prime24

03-03-2008, 02:14 PM

this book is great and i really wish bendis could write either uxmen or ufantastic four along with spidey. heck why not write all of them. i enjoyed his runs on both books. Kirkman needs to take a few pages out of bendis's book and realize that it's not all about convoluted plots.

Angelus II

03-04-2008, 06:40 AM

I don't see how it wrecks the issue at all.

We would've been surprise to what they there talking about. Not just show it than end the issue. Kinda like issue #6, it ended and we didn't know that the Green Goblin was going to drop Spidey--not untill issue #7.

Sonicjuce

03-04-2008, 08:48 AM

I'm saying that I didn't like the cover. And yes the cover did mislead, it sure have depicted something from the main story, like Iceman chasing Firestar. Not the actual last page of the issue. Also, the last page with Magneto shouldn't be there, it totally wreck the issue.

Because comics these days depict what happens in the issue; especially in the Ultimate line. This is the worst complaint I have heard in a long time. I don't get why people complain about covers not covering what goes on in the issue. They haven't for like 20 years man. Often they mislead. I will try and find an example from the 80's if you like. I mean think of all those old covers that say something like "Spidey dies this issue". Until the other that just wasn't true.

Gloom Cookie

03-04-2008, 09:22 AM

Sion

03-04-2008, 03:33 PM

That's fine, but how does it wreck the actual issue?

....
I believe your question has been answered multiple times already.

As others, my only complaint for this issue was the cover.

IAMFuzzy

03-04-2008, 09:27 PM

We would've been surprise to what they there talking about. Not just show it than end the issue. Kinda like issue #6, it ended and we didn't know that the Green Goblin was going to drop Spidey--not untill issue #7.
I can't take the complaint about a cover ruining the surprise of the last page seriously from someone who reads a six-page preview of the issue almost a week before it comes out. If you truly thought that being surprised about anything that would happen in the issue was important then you would've skipped reading the preview like I did.

The cover made people want to pick up the issue and the ending worked well because seeing Magneto still made you want to pick up the next issue, and that's the point of a cliff-hanger.

Angelus II

03-05-2008, 05:48 AM

I can't take the complaint about a cover ruining the surprise of the last page seriously from someone who reads a six-page preview of the issue almost a week before it comes out. If you truly thought that being surprised about anything that would happen in the issue was important then you would've skipped reading the preview like I did.

The cover made people want to pick up the issue and the ending worked well because seeing Magneto still made you want to pick up the next issue, and that's the point of a cliff-hanger.

My point is that there should had been more Magneto in this issue, because he is on the cover. Marvel should've save this cover (usm#119) for next issue (usm#120). And use the cover for #120 as a variant.

carabas

03-05-2008, 06:33 AM

My point is that there should had been more Magneto in this issue, because he is on the cover. Marvel should've save this cover (usm#119) for next issue (usm#120). And use the cover for #120 as a variant.Okay...So your beef is that there isn't enough Magneto in the issue to justify the cover.
This does not mean that Magneto appearing on the last page wrecks the issue (especially since it was written months before there even was a cover). At best you could argue that putting Magneto on the cover was a poor choice which spoils the final page reveal.

Gloom Cookie

03-05-2008, 07:12 AM

....
I believe your question has been answered multiple times already.

As others, my only complaint for this issue was the cover.

No, it hasn't. How was the issue itself wrecked? I thought it was a fun read. What you're telling me is that you didn't enjoy the entire issue simply because the last page wasn't a surprise?

Angelus II

03-06-2008, 05:50 AM

Okay...So your beef is that there isn't enough Magneto in the issue to justify the cover. That's part of it, yes.
This does not mean that Magneto appearing on the last page wrecks the issue (especially since it was written months before there even was a cover). At best you could argue that putting Magneto on the cover was a poor choice which spoils the final page reveal.

And that's the second part, and that mainly what I'm talking about. The cover totally wrecked the issue by putting Magneto on the final page. If there were more Magneto in the issue, I would've say it was a great cover for the issue, but the cover would've done well for issue #120.

Sonicjuce

03-06-2008, 10:27 AM

And that's the second part, and that mainly what I'm talking about. The cover totally wrecked the issue by putting Magneto on the final page. If there were more Magneto in the issue, I would've say it was a great cover for the issue, but the cover would've done well for issue #120.

Well considering we knew a long time ago that Magneto was going to be part of this arc I don't see how it ruined anything. It also opened the door for us assuming that Liz's uncle was Magneto. So I disagree...

Also you need to get past your whole covers depict what goes on in an issue. That hasn't happened in a long time. It is like you've been in a time capsule without contemporary comics for the last bit and suddenly your surprised. Or you just what to complain...

Angelus II

03-07-2008, 06:12 AM

It also opened the door for us assuming that Liz's uncle was Magneto.

That's a good theory, but I don't see how it opened the door for us assuming that Liz's Uncle is/was Magneto. Maybe Liz's Uncle was murdered by Magneto from siding with Xavier. Still my theory doesn't open any doors.

carabas

03-07-2008, 11:25 AM

I think if Magneto had any prior contact with Liz, she kinda would have recognised him rather than stammering "What's that?"

Ramirez IV

03-07-2008, 11:34 AM

That last spread was brilliant though. I was a bit sceptical about Immonnen up to this point (must be something to do with not being able to spell his name) but that was a very good picture.

And Bendis is going to write a better Magneto than Loeb. He just... he just will.

Blaqueneto

03-07-2008, 02:26 PM

And Bendis is going to write a better Magneto than Loeb. He just... he just will.I'd be surprised if he didn't.

IAMFuzzy

03-07-2008, 03:11 PM

I think if Magneto had any prior contact with Liz, she kinda would have recognised him rather than stammering "What's that?"
Unless she never met him before because her parents told her he "died" when she was little.

carabas

03-07-2008, 05:41 PM

megabyte01

03-07-2008, 08:32 PM

Doubtful.
I say her mutantphobia stems from her being aware of what she is since before #1, but having been in serious denial about it up until now.
And that line about her uncle was something she made up to cover her behaviour.

I mean, if a relative of Liz would have been in contact with Magneto, no matter how insignificantly, Nick Fury would have dragged her in for intensive questioning years ago.

nick fury's ability to spy on people has been demonstrated to be lacking as of late. just take a look at his screwups in hobgoblin, clone saga, and ultimate power (shudder)

Angelus II

03-08-2008, 06:09 AM

I think if Magneto had any prior contact with Liz, she kinda would have recognised him rather than stammering "What's that?"

Her mutantphobia stems from her being aware of what she is since before #1, but having been in serious denial about it up until now.
And that line about her uncle was something she made up to cover her behaviour.

I mean, if a relative of Liz would have been in contact with Magneto, no matter how insignificantly, Nick Fury would have dragged her in for intensive questioning years ago.

Totally agree.

Noronha

03-08-2008, 09:26 AM

nick fury's ability to spy on people has been demonstrated to be lacking as of late. just take a look at his screwups in hobgoblin, clone saga, and ultimate power (shudder)

Well there was that scene way back in USM 11where Peter´s called to see the school psychiatrist,later it´s revealed that she was in fact a SHIELD agent working for Fury.
Now if you take a closer look you see that besides Peter there was only one more student called to talk the her,Liz.

They knew Peter was Spider-Man,so why was Liz the only one besides him being called?Probably because Fury knew by then that she was a mutant or he knows who her uncle is.

Sonicjuce

03-08-2008, 01:54 PM

They knew Peter was Spider-Man,so why was Liz the only one besides him being called?Probably because Fury knew by then that she was a mutant or he knows who her uncle is.

I.E. Magneto. I don't ussually make predictions but I'm calling this one...

carabas

03-08-2008, 02:53 PM

nick fury's ability to spy on people has been demonstrated to be lacking as of late.[/I])Maybe (plus he's been written out of the universe). But the facts date back from quite a while. Pre-Ultimate Spidey#1 even. Fury'd been all over it back then. Magneto almost kills the president, and this schoolgirl has some connection to him? No way Fury wouldn't know, and no way he wouldn't act on that information.

CmX

03-08-2008, 03:14 PM

I liked this issue a lot better than the previous ish.

The artist is really fitting in the title better as well, I liked the splash Magneto page at the end.

Has Bendis mentioned anywhere if he plans on having future Amazing Friends arcs ? Cause Liz turning out to be Firestar is a cool twist.

ReggieWhiteJr

03-08-2008, 05:00 PM

I liked the focus on teen drama in issue 118, but just didn't dig it all the much overall. I flipped through issue 119, so I'm hoping it will be better. I wasn't aware Kong knew Peter was Spider-Man, although in this day and age, people aren't all that dumb so it's only logical that someone in Peter's circle of friends would figure it out.

Who wants to bet Liz finds out Peter is Spidey?

IAMFuzzy

03-08-2008, 08:04 PM

Who wants to bet Liz finds out Peter is Spidey?
Eventually but I don't think it'll happen right away.

BTW was I the only one who wanted Liz and Peter to kiss when he was holding her in the blanket on the beach? I know it would've been all of a sudden but I loved Peter with Kitty and would love Peter with Liz some time in the future.