uxm 91 spoilers

[bbmakdaddycomics]

im gonna make this short and sweet

1. from where the preview ends wolverine stabs apocalypse in the neck but his claw is stuck and pocy pulls away ripping off his arm (i knew this is where cable was born)

2. but before pocy could steal his hf nightcrawler and the morlocks attack.
3. sinister controls all mutants the x-men came in contact with making kitty punch peter off his spiderweb, the old x-men fight fantastic 4, and the morlocks fight the new x-men
4. jean looks and sees pocy and asks how are they going to beat him then she says "oh god hes not alone" with stryfe and onslaught head towards the situation. the end

it was just one of those not too bad issues it was ok, i think its because it was not enough for me cant wait till 92

[Rufusade]

3. sinister controls all mutants the x-men came in contact with making kitty punch peter off his spiderweb, the old x-men fight fantastic 4, and the morlocks fight the new x-men


So let me get this one straight; Apocalypse can control every mutant Sinister interacted with? Has Apocalypse levelled all of Manhattan to make room for his giant pyramid. And according to what you say we also see Spiderman and the Fantastic Four too? Now I know what Kirkman meant when he said "We will see all corners of the universe before Apocalypse is done". (Bad news for those who wanted to keep Kirkman confined to Ultimate X-men)

4. jean looks and sees pocy and asks how are they going to beat him then she says "oh god hes not alone" with stryfe and onslaught head towards the situation. the end


No offence but could you be more specific? Did she ask Apocalypse how they could beat him? And did it say that it was stryfe and onslaught?

BTW: Did Apocalypse ever put on that Satanic looking metal suit?

[Slyfer]

THIS ISSUE MADE APOC LOOKED GOOD BUT IT WAS F@#@$ING DYSMAL

[Xtroid]

Apoc kicked major ass in this issue.

[Hi-Fi]

Wow, this must be one of the crappiest books I've ever read. I'm shocked at how much Kirkman's writing can suck.

[bbmakdaddycomics]

So let me get this one straight; Apocalypse can control every mutant Sinister interacted with? Has Apocalypse levelled all of Manhattan to make room for his giant pyramid. And according to what you say we also see Spiderman and the Fantastic Four too? Now I know what Kirkman meant when he said "We will see all corners of the universe before Apocalypse is done". (Bad news for those who wanted to keep Kirkman confined to Ultimate X-men)




No offence but could you be more specific? Did she ask Apocalypse how they could beat him? And did it say that it was stryfe and onslaught?

BTW: Did Apocalypse ever put on that Satanic looking metal suit?

jean asked sue storm how could they beat him but sue never answered and pocy controled every mutnt the new x-men ever came in contact with, because of course the apperance of nightcrawler and the morlocks pissed him off more. and no they didnt call them stryfe and onslaught, as of now they are nameless I'm just using the names everyone has given them.

[ThePhenom]

Larocca's art looked great, the same cannot be said for Kirkman's writing... otherwise though it was damn epic, I definately intend to follow the story perhaps purely through Larocca's art...

And on a sidenote, does all the mutants freaking out mean that Wasp is gonna turn on the Ultimates in the Savage Land/Avengers Mansion ;).

[bbmakdaddycomics]

Larocca's art looked great, the same cannot be said for Kirkman's writing... otherwise though it was damn epic, I definately intend to follow the story perhaps purely through Larocca's art...

And on a sidenote, does all the mutants freaking out mean that Wasp is gonna turn on the Ultimates in the Savage Land/Avengers Mansion ;).

i thought i was the only one who considered wasp betraying the ultimates somehow i think she killed scarlet witch, but loeb could fool me. but as for the mutants freaking out who knows.

[MacLeod]

I actually rather enjoyed this. Granted, it was virtually plot free, and Logan seemed to be flipping between two different characters at will, but it was nice seeing an up to date Ultimate Spidey/Kitty, the Ultimate Fantastic Four, etc, and having them apparently written in character.

[Beast]

Wow, this must be one of the crappiest books I've ever read. I'm shocked at how much Kirkman's writing can suck.
Yeah, it's weird. Considering I like his other work pretty well.

[Will.S]

I still think turning Sinister into Apocalypse is one of the lamer fusions of 2 characters since I think they work better as entirely separate characters. Interesting to see Wolverine get a limb torn off similar to Ultimate Hulk vs Wolverine. I don't think I've ever seen him literally get ripped apart as much as he does in the Ultimate Universe.

I just skimmed through it to see Larroca's art though so I'm just basing my uninformed opinion on what I saw

[Red Lotus]

I have one question was Kitty flying?

[Toboe]

Read it at the store out of sheer curiosity. I couldn't believe how bad it was.

Kirkman's trying to make Apocalypse into this omnipotent threat but fails miserably, how can he expect anyone to take this seriously? Dialgoue is still terrible and so is the pacing. There's this panel of Psyclocke trying to read Apocalypse's mind right in the middle of Wolverine's attempt at bad a55 speech...

The use of Spider-Man, Kitty Pryde, the Fantastic Four and Carol Danvers as Director of SHIELD were nice touches though, but they would have worked better in a believable story.

[Last_Avenger]

(Rests head on desk and lets out a deep, mournful sigh)

"... only a few more issues..."

[Brian M.]

Wow, this must be one of the crappiest books I've ever read. I'm shocked at how much Kirkman's writing can suck.

ding ding ding!!!

The whole story was :

Apoc: This world is mine, your dead now.
Mutants: We're sorry, we're not really in control don't hurt us!
Jean: oh shit!

[Brian M.]

I have one question was Kitty flying?

Yup. She was. I think there is somekind of explanation for it...walks on air or...phases from gravity...not sure.

[flapjaxx]

It may not be saying much, but I'd say this was one of the top 2-3 issues of the past year. Can I name one good thing about it? Umm... no. But it seemed like there wasn't as MANY bad things going on as before. At least a lot of things SEEM like they're beginning to wrap up. I'm honestly interested to see how Kirkman leaves things. Here's hoping that his final issue isn't mostly a fight scene but actually has time for character interaction resolving Xavier's disappearance and what Cyclops thinks re: his revealed feelings for Jean.

Oh wouldn't it be convenient if Jean suddenly turned into Phoenix, and left the team in power-overload-confusion, just so she and Xavier and Cyclops never have to be in the same room together. No that'd make too much sense and leave too much tension. Prediction: Kirkman will just gloss over the whole thing with a cursory word from Scott about, "It IS glad to have you back, Professor, even though..." And then a telepathic comment from Xavier like: "I know, Scott, we'll...talk, sometime soon. I'm...sorry."

Apocalypse's dialogue was abysmal. It was the equivalent of an eight-year-old doing the voice of an Apocalypse action figure.

I liked the touch where Beast expressed confusion at seeing the Morlocks and Nightcrawler leading them. THERE! that's one small thing I actually liked.

[Prime24]

I have one question was Kitty flying?

Kirkman and his continuity errors.

1) Apparently she was

2) Correct me if i'm wrong but i believe the X-jet crashed into the fantastic four's plane. i thought the x-jet was destroyed back in issue 75 or 76 when cable infiltrated the mansion.Geez...

3)what happened to cyclops's decsion about protecting the mansion. all of a sudden they're back in uniforms

4)Apocalypse so far has been kinda shallow. In this day and age we really need villains who aren't one dimensional. You've got to have better reasons
than "i'm gonna rule the world".

C'mon kirkman. apocalypse is sophisticated. for world domination you can either use terrorism, flat out war with an army or conspiracies. I really don't see how this is gonna end well with 2 issues left. and stryfe and onslaught are obviously cable and xavier in costumes.Sheesh. I hope some writer down the road comes along and gives apocalypse the proper treatment

[bbmakdaddycomics]

I have one question was Kitty flying?

yes she was i couldnt figure out how either

[bbmakdaddycomics]

ding ding ding!!!

The whole story was :

Apoc: This world is mine, your dead now.
Mutants: We're sorry, we're not really in control don't hurt us!
Jean: oh shit!

Ha Ha Ha that WAS the whole story that's why not much is posted.

[steve2275]

turning the x men against each other
BRILLIANT!!!

[Shadow ES]

I have one question was Kitty flying?

That's not a Kirkman error. She flew in USM first. Issue...115 I think? The one where she saved Peter from falling on the pavement. She phased them to the sewer, then she floated back up to the street.

[TheAmazingSpidey]

That's not a Kirkman error. She flew in USM first. Issue...115 I think? The one where she saved Peter from falling on the pavement. She phased them to the sewer, then she floated back up to the street.

She was walking on molecules of air. And she did that before the Death of a Goblin arc. Re-read the Deadpool arc, the scene in the warehouse where Peter and Kitty part after whooping the Ringer. She walks on air, there, too. (Assuming I'm remembering correctly, and I believe I am.)

Mainstream does this too. Flying, though, never. Mainstream or Ultimate.

[Blaqueneto]

Apocalypse's dialogue was abysmal. It was the equivalent of an eight-year-old doing the voice of an Apocalypse action figure.So true. I really hope he's done ranting, it's just painful to read.

[Green05]

It was nice to see Apocalypse take action. I hope he'll be taking names in the next issue.Stryfe and Onslaught may be next.

[Last_Avenger]

It may not be saying much, but I'd say this was one of the top 2-3 issues of the past year. Can I name one good thing about it? Umm... no. But it seemed like there wasn't as MANY bad things going on as before. At least a lot of things SEEM like they're beginning to wrap up. I'm honestly interested to see how Kirkman leaves things. Here's hoping that his final issue isn't mostly a fight scene but actually has time for character interaction resolving Xavier's disappearance and what Cyclops thinks re: his revealed feelings for Jean.

Kirkman has barely done any character development whatsoever in his entire run, what makes you think he will start in his last issue?

[Novaya Havoc]

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$#&^#$ YOU!!!

[Karl H]

I'm so pleased I dropped this book 2 years ago.

[Last_Avenger]

well, just got my copy in the mail today, and well I was genuinely surprised at how from the point Wolverine gets his arm ripped off to the end where Xavier and Cable show up in their Stryfe and Onslaught costumes.

Honestly, I don't know if these two are really Xavier and Cable, but if they aren't then it makes no sense why a a seemingly invicble and extremely powerful god needs horsemen. It also explains the blue time vortex behind them during their panel;)

[RodeoWearden]

well, just got my copy in the mail today, and well I was genuinely surprised at how from the point Wolverine gets his arm ripped off to the end where Xavier and Cable show up in their Stryfe and Onslaught costumes.

Honestly, I don't know if these two are really Xavier and Cable, but if they aren't then it makes no sense why a a seemingly invicble and extremely powerful god needs horsemen. It also explains the blue time vortex behind them during their panel;)

Oh i hope so. Stryfe's costume almost said 'feminine' to me, with the lack of any leg armor, but I do hope its those two come back to kick his ass.

[Kage Kisaragi]

the two figures at the end, Magneto and Xavier perhapes? But, whats up with the Animeesque body armor? Anti Apocalypse tech?

Also now im enjoying this?! Yes this is what ultimate marvel should be, violence mixed in with many questions and the occasional realization that it all connects. Now we see how wolverine got that scars. So he really is cable? Well now I can understand it, and I now thoroughly enjoy it.

[Sonicjuce]

I have been defending Kirkman for awhile. Not necessarily that his work has been good but more that it hasn't been as bad as everyone has said.

Well, this issue is worse then everyone says.

[Kage Kisaragi]

I have been defending Kirkman for awhile. Not necessarily that his work has been good but more that it hasn't been as bad as everyone has said.

Well, this issue is worse then everyone says.

:confused: You didn't like it at all? :(

[Last_Avenger]

I have been defending Kirkman for awhile. Not necessarily that his work has been good but more that it hasn't been as bad as everyone has said.

Well, this issue is worse then everyone says.

Well my friend they call that a paradox.

[ThePhenom]

Well my friend they call that a paradox.

I think it's closer to ironic.

[Karl H]

Can we get some scans of the horror please?

[Rufusade]

Oh i hope so. Stryfe's costume almost said 'feminine' to me, with the lack of any leg armor, but I do hope its those two come back to kick his ass.

You can see clearly on the cover of issue 93 that Apocalypse gains the upper hand against "Onslaught":

http://www.marvel.com/comics/onsale/lib/view2.htm?filename=/comics/onsale/covers/0408/ultxm93.jpg

I must say he looks like an adult about to disiplin some naughty kids.

[Sonicjuce]

:confused: You didn't like it at all? :(

No the dialog was atrocious. The characterization was out place. Heroes fighting heroes? How many times we seen that? We had no lead up to it. It seems everything culminated far to quickly.

[Sonicjuce]

I think it's closer to ironic.

That is what I was going to say...Paradox doesn't really work...Although in truth neither does ironic all that well... I guess we could just say it is an extreme disappointment.

[ThePhenom]

That is what I was going to say...Paradox doesn't really work...Although in truth neither does ironic all that well... I guess we could just say it is an extreme disappointment.

I think it's ironic, you constantly defended a title that everyone hated and when fan appreciation rises for an issue you end up disliking it the most. If not irony, then perhaps poetic injustice :p.

[Sonicjuce]

I think it's ironic, you constantly defended a title that everyone hated and when fan appreciation rises for an issue you end up disliking it the most. If not irony, then perhaps poetic injustice :p.

I don't think fan appreciation rose for the issue...

Ussually these threads have a greater response. Now they seem to be a little on the positive side, but for the most part still people annoyed with the writing.

Oh and technically that still is not irony. It is the popular belief of what irony has become, but still not irony...

[Last_Avenger]

I don't think fan appreciation rose for the issue...

Ussually these threads have a greater response. Now they seem to be a little on the positive side, but for the most part still people annoyed with the writing.

Oh and technically that still is not irony. It is the popular belief of what irony has become, but still not irony...

lol, you're right, the UXM threads are very lazy and apathetic more and more each issue. Sometimes the thread doesn't even get posted for an issue until a weeke or so after its release nowadays.

[ThePhenom]

I don't think fan appreciation rose for the issue...

Ussually these threads have a greater response. Now they seem to be a little on the positive side, but for the most part still people annoyed with the writing.

Oh and technically that still is not irony. It is the popular belief of what irony has become, but still not irony...

Yeah, I concede but poetic injustice says it well enough.

[chronicboredom]

No the dialog was atrocious. The characterization was out place. Heroes fighting heroes? How many times we seen that? We had no lead up to it. It seems everything culminated far to quickly.

I think tht it was good that it was sudden, rather than having 5 issues explaining what is going to happen, it takes the edge of it...

[CmX]

This is so horrible I can't believe they greenlit this arc and the introduction of Apocalypse.

It's going to be a painful two more issues.

[jcp011c]

just read it today (I pick up my books every 2/3 weeks). Not great of course but I think I like this arc from Kirkman better than anything except Aftermath. Poccy's not as well written as I thought he could be (and has been in most of his mainstream universe stories) but I have to admit, it is better than the last story we got from him from Milligan.

I'm still glad Kirkman's leaving though - hopefully this will get me to hang on after this arc, as this was pretty much the storyline of his I was holding on for - glutton for punishment that I am.

Best part was Dazzler opening a can of whup ass on Wolverine.