Official Veronica Mars Season 1 Thread!

[LtMarvel]

There are so many suspects...your list should also include Logan's parents. Certainly his mom wasn't too happy when Logan and Lilly were out all night.

I voted for Logan. Alibi shmalibi...supposedly overseas...yeah, right. I saw him peeking in Veronica's files...

[Rabid Trekkie]

Celeste Kane aka "Mommy Dearest" so did this murder. Here's how I think it all happened.

Jake told Duncan that he has to stop seeing Veronica because there is a chance they're brother and sister. Logan was at the house when this happened and saw Duncan just lose it. Logan went in and Duncan realised what he was doing and stopped trying to beat up his dad.

Later on Celeste walks out by the pool and sees Lilly with Weevil. Celeste never striked me as being that impressed with Logan but at least he came from a "good" family and was rich. She starts going crazy and threatens to call the police on Weevil for rape if he doesn't get lost. As soon as Weevil's gone her and Lilly get in a huge screaming match which ends with Celeste bashing Lilly's head in.

Jake can't stand to lose two family members so he decides to cover his wife's tracks. Part of this is finding out a disease that has emotional outbursts so that if push comes to shove they can just say that Duncan had a fit and did it and it really isn't his fault and he can stay at home with a live in doctor. However Mr. Ex Army Intelligence is able to get Abel Koontz to confess so they don't have to use the Duncan lie, but just in case they keep him on the pills anyway.

So what do ya'll think?

[Deathstroke]

Somebody posted at the forums on televisionwithoutpity that Veronica Mars has been picked up for a second season. Good news if true but I'll wait for whatever official press release.

I'll wait for the official news as well. If there's no link provided, I'm not believing it.

[adamthered]

I'll wait for the official news as well. If there's no link provided, I'm not believing it.

Supposedly it's now on Rob Thomas' website but I can't access it here at work. It like "slaverats.com" or something like that.

[Slappy san]

Supposedly it's now on Rob Thomas' website but I can't access it here at work. It like "slaverats.com" or something like that.

Click on HUGE NEWS. Its official. GREAT!

[adamthered]

I'll have to check it out when I get home. I can't run Flash 7 on my computer at work so the homepage won't download for me :(

[Slappy san]

I'll have to check it out when I get home. I can't run Flash 7 on my computer at work so the homepage won't download for me :(

What's to check it out. It's not like the announcement is in big flashing letters with a nude chicks laying on those letters.

[adamthered]

I don't know. There must be something on the homepage that uses Flash 7 and my computer won't allow that and I can't download it because I'm not a systems admin here at work. I just wanted to see what it said was all.

[Slappy san]

http://aint-it-cool-news.com/display.cgi?id=19864

[Deathstroke]

Whooo Freaking Hooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Deathstroke]

http://aint-it-cool-news.com/display.cgi?id=19864

I can't get that link to work. I get a page can't be displayed message. Weird.

[Slappy san]

I can't get that link to work. I get a page can't be displayed message. Weird.

You must have bad internet mojo. :)

[Deathstroke]

You must have bad internet mojo. :)

Figures to be the only kind of mojo I ever seem to have.

I did see that it's been posted over on TV Guide.com, and I saw Rob Thomas's site.

[Spastic Minnow]

Can someone please spoil me the major developments from the last show? What about the security guard?

My UPN station went off the air last Tuesday. :evilangry

[LtMarvel]

Sure:
Veronica contacts Abel Koontz's (the guy in jail for Lilly's murder) daughter. Veronica finds a hotel room for her and tells her not to contact anybody (she will only take cell phone calls from her boyfriend). She gets there before the head of Kane security does. Veronica convinces the college goer that her father is innocent of the crime, but she does not mention that Koontz is dying (not until the daughter gets Veronica the evidence of a payout). Kane security chief breaks into Mars' apartment looking for the daughter where he finds Keith (Veronica's dad). Keith realizes that Veronica is really shaking up Kane industries with her investigation.

Keith talks to Veronica about that day. The Kanes' dryer went off when he got there (Keith couldn't imagine the Kanes ever doing their own laundry); he found a single outfit in the dryer. Keith also warned Veronica about the Kane security chief being very dangerous.

The Mars clan gets the call from Koontz's daughter. The payout from Kane Software evidence had arrived. Alas, Kane's security chief manages to borrow boyfriend's cell phone and tell the daughter about Koontz's health. When the Mars arrived at the motel, only the security chief is there, straightening things up.

Other notable instances: Logan Echolls sees Veronica's files on the suspects of Lilly's murder. Logan (according to Veronica's files) has the out of the country alibi. Logan also comfirms Duncan's "medical problems" (he relates a violent incident with Duncan and his dad...which could have been about not seeing Veronica any more due to the possibility that she's Ducan's half sister--Logan doesn't know that). [In a nice scene, Logan gives Veronica a check for investigating his mom's suicide, which Veronica rips up, saying that Logan's mom was always nice to Veronica.]

Veronica went to the Kane residence as part of her case of the week. At the scene of the crime, she saw Lilly's ghost, who told Veronica that her parents are hardly murderers (Veronica was imagining scenerios in which the parents did it). Duncan also talked to Veronica about the crime scene. He eventually finds sitting at the scene peaceful instead of upsetting....he's glad the family didn't move.

Oh, in the case of the week we are introduced to a rival private eye...one who is not above breaking laws for a client (this episode he was rattling a student so another could get the Validictorian scholarship). Veronica really got the best of him; hopefully we'll see more of him in the future.


Whew...try not miss any more, ok?

[LtMarvel]

Wow, 4/12's episode was great! Journalism! New romances! A shocking kiss! A prime suspect goes missing with a ton of money!

[Deathstroke]

Damn this was a great episode!

How about Duncan's big verbal mis-step?

And the new romance? Or the shocking kiss, which had my jaw on the floor.

Heck, this show is not only on my Top 5 new shows, but it's probably going to end up on my Top 5 of the entire season.

[Spastic Minnow]

The kiss.
On one hand it makes sense under the circumstances. She's been getting closer to Logan and then he does something pretty valiant by "saving" her from a guy she believed meant her harm. Hey, a hero deserves a kiss for saving the damsel in distress doesn't he? Maybe not half minute french... but yeah.

On the other hand, even if she believes he's uninvolved in the murder of Lily he'd still be a very good suspect in her own rape. Not something you'd forget.

That got me thinking and realising that with Norris they've introduced a new suspect in the rape. It'd be a slight cop-out to have a minor newly discovered character be the villain in that case, but they are down to 4 episodes and he is a convenient, creepy, quiet guy who has apparently been obsessed with her for a long time. If he shows up again in the next couple episodes I'd say we have our man.

[Deathstroke]

That got me thinking and realising that with Norris they've introduced a new suspect in the rape. It'd be a slight cop-out to have a minor newly discovered character be the villain in that case, but they are down to 4 episodes and he is a convenient, creepy, quiet guy who has apparently been obsessed with her for a long time. If he shows up again in the next couple episodes I'd say we have our man.

The ATF guy said he talked about her a lot but he could've been exaggerating. It's not like he was in bed with the truth on other things. Besides liking someone is a ways off from stalking someone.

[Spastic Minnow]

The ATF guy said he talked about her a lot but he could've been exaggerating. It's not like he was in bed with the truth on other things. Besides liking someone is a ways off from stalking someone.

Not exactly saying he's stalking her, following around and stuff, but he's fixated with her. The magazine about exactly her type proves something and the spitwad flashback shows that his interest goes at least as far back as when she was first made an outcast. And then there was the scene where he was apparently afraid of her looking into his foot locker as if there was something he didn't want her to see. They're showing that he's the type that's afraid to take the initiative but given the chance might take advatage of a situation.

[LtMarvel]

Does he appear to be the type to go to (or even get invited to) the rich kids party?

[Spastic Minnow]

Does he appear to be the type to go to (or even get invited to) the rich kids party?

Veronica wasn't invited either. IIRC it was a pretty big party though, easily crashable, he could have had his reasons to go. I'm not saying he's definitely is the rapist but I think it's very possible.

[Steve]

Wallace: He's not gropin' her, is he?
Veronica: No, but earlier I saw him cutting a hole in the bottom of the popcorn bucket.

So funny.

At this point I think Duncan is too obvious as the primary suspect. I'll go with Logan.

[Deathstroke]

At this point I thik Duncan is too obvious as the primary suspect. I'll go with Logan.

Well that would certainly put quite the big ick factor on that rather lengthy kiss between Veronica and him....

[Steve]

Well that would certainly put quite the big ick factor on that rather lengthy kiss between Veronica and him....
But of course.

[LtMarvel]

Well! Another lengthy kiss between the icky couple.
Weevil put himself back on the suspect list.
Kieth Mars does the DNA test on himself and his daughter!
Celeste Kane goes all B****y on the Mars ... and Veronica bluffs to get Weevil released.
Veronica dumps the nice cop....at least Veronica understands that she's out of control.
Never get in between a dog lover and her dog 1. Veronica busts the dognappers 2. Nice Cop says it was fun to bust them 3. The shy girl who lost her dog went all Jack Bauer on the dog napper to find out what happened to her dog!!!!

Veronica's reputation! She threatened to ruin this guy life, and he believed her!! What a wonderful scene!

A mere THREE episodes left!

[adamthered]

This show has been pretty great all season long but the past few episodes have been stupdendous.

I'm so happy it's coming back next season.

[Spastic Minnow]

I'm still not ready to give up on my old theory that Lily had discovered that she was really Weevil's half sister and that was the reason they were sneaking around.

But if Norris isn't in the next episode I will concede that one. :o

[Deathstroke]

Man, I loved the scene when Veronica went off on the guy taunting the girl with the lost dog. I was whooping it up over that.

That break up scene with Leo the nice cop has to be one of the coolest break ups ever.

24's influence rears its head when the zapper gets used on the dognapper.

You know, I'm really hoping Logan doesn't turn out to be the killer. I'm starting to kind of like that icky pairing....

[Deathstroke]

Anyone notice that no one is really talking about Alyson Hannigan's appearance in last night's episode?

If they bring her back next year, they really need to get her looking more comfortable in her role.

[Slappy san]

I dunno why I'm schocked that VM was up front with the Deputy.

It's not like this a WB show after all. :)

[Deathstroke]

I dunno why I'm schocked that VM was up front with the Deputy.

It's not like this a WB show after all. :)

Yeah it's far better written.

I love how she ended the break up by pointing at herself and saying "train wreck."

[Deathstroke]

News on DVD plans for Veronica Mars Season 1! (http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/newsitem.cfm?NewsID=3351)

Don't forget tomorrow night's episode will reveal the true story behind the night Veronica was drugged and raped.

[Slappy san]

Something to damper the dvd news:

Yes. But we've been given a tough choice regarding how the DVD is released. Warner Home Video has told us that we can only get the DVD out in September if we don't include any extras. They have to start pressing them right now. I would love to do extras for the package, but our team thinks it's too important to get the DVD out before we begin season 2 to wait.

[Spastic Minnow]

Everyone still processing?

So that's that answered then, both unknowingly drugged. Veronica tossed around like a ragdoll but it really turned out to be not as bad as it seemed. Although all the various viewpoints made it hard to figure out what really happened. Even that last Duncan viewpoint seemed wrong, maybe a side effect of the ecstasy since the previous recountings had Veronica completely passed out on the bed.

And then we have Logan- What do we think of Logan? He certainly went all over the morality scale there. Hate him- understand him- dislike him- almost get to liking him again- hating him again.

[Donald M.]

Does anyone really think Duncan and Veronica are brother and sister? I think Duncan's mom just told him that to break up him and Veronica, to get a little back for the affair she to thinks her husband was having with Veronica's mom.

Of course, it's possible she believes it, but I don't buy that it's true.

[Donald M.]

So, knowing what we now know, a possible scenario for Lilly's death:

Celeste believes that her husband has been having a long-time affair with Lianne Mars and that Veronica is his daughter. She enlists Clarence Weidman to help her have a paternity test done on the sly. (Maybe he broke into the Mars home and got some of Veronica's hair from a brush or something.)

The results come back. Celeste goes to Duncan, showing him the test results as proof. When Veronica goes to Lilly to find out why Duncan broke up with her so suddenly, Duncan tells her, but Lilly wants to make certain for herself before telling Veronica.

She gets Weevil to help her get her hands on the paternity test results. Maybe Celeste had them in the house somewhere, maybe they were in Weidman's office, but Lilly needed help getting them.

Weevil steals the file from wherever it is and hands it over without knowing what it is. Inside Lilly finds two test results, the one Celeste showed Duncan, and the real results, which show that that Jake Kane is not Veronica's dad.

Furious, Lilly confronts her mother, there's a struggle and Lilly falls and bashes her head. Knowing the whole truth will come out if she admits to the accident, Celeste gets Weidman to help her cover it up.

I think Celeste overstepped things just a tad when she got Weidman to help her blackmail Lianne into leaving town though. Trying to hire Keith to investigate Jake's infidelities was stupid as well. Maybe she suspected Keith was still looking into Lilly's death and hoped that finding out about Jake and Lianne would make him angry enough to forget about it, at least for a while. Obviously it didn't quite work out that way.

[Indigo Al]

Everyone still processing?

So that's that answered then, both unknowingly drugged. Veronica tossed around like a ragdoll but it really turned out to be not as bad as it seemed. Although all the various viewpoints made it hard to figure out what really happened. Even that last Duncan viewpoint seemed wrong, maybe a side effect of the ecstasy since the previous recountings had Veronica completely passed out on the bed.

And then we have Logan- What do we think of Logan? He certainly went all over the morality scale there. Hate him- understand him- dislike him- almost get to liking him again- hating him again.

How do we know that video equipment wasn't Aaron's instead of Logan's?

Wasn't it fishy that the snobby rich girl mentioned she had the hots for Logan's dad?

Maybe there's a videotape out there somewhere of Aaron and Lilly Kane?

[Deathstroke]

Anyone else sort of feeling gypped that it was all a case of drunken teenagers not remembering what happened?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not rooting for sexual assault, but to have spent the whole season thinking our heroine was raped and then to find out it was "consensual." (I'm leaving out the potential Eww factor of incest for the moment).

However, overall the show was awesome!

I'm a little bit pissed about Logan. Just when you thought he was turning into quite the stand up guy by throwing out his friends for insulting his girlfriend, then we get played with with the idea he might be setting her up for a sex tape.

I'm hoping it's equipment that belongs to his father, but darn that was too bad. I was beginning to like him.

Nice that Weevil was there to pick up Veronica.

How about poor Wallace, all this time he thinks Veronica is lying to him and then she drops the whole enchilada on him and he looks like he got hit by a truck.

One thing, when Duncan yelled at Veronica that she was his sister, how come it was something that was pretty much ignored after that. I would think it would be something that would dominate the rest of the episode as Veronica freaked out.

I can't wait for next week's episode it looks freaking intense. I really now have no idea who the killer will turn out to be.

[Slappy san]

One thing, when Duncan yelled at Veronica that she was his sister, how come it was something that was pretty much ignored after that. I would think it would be something that would dominate the rest of the episode as Veronica freaked out.

I can't wait for next week's episode it looks freaking intense. I really now have no idea who the killer will turn out to be.


She knew it herself. She didnt send the test in because she wanted to pretend that she didnt.

[Deathstroke]

She knew it herself. She didnt send the test in because she wanted to pretend that she didnt.

It's one thing to "know it" in your head, it's another to be confronted with the fact out in the open.

[Deathstroke]

According to TV Guide's Matt Roush, UPN will re-air Veronica Mars over the summer.

[adamthered]

Between this and the finale of the Amazing Race this is a kick ass night for TV!

[Rabid Trekkie]

So, knowing what we now know, a possible scenario for Lilly's death:

Celeste believes that her husband has been having a long-time affair with Lianne Mars and that Veronica is his daughter. She enlists Clarence Weidman to help her have a paternity test done on the sly. (Maybe he broke into the Mars home and got some of Veronica's hair from a brush or something.)

The results come back. Celeste goes to Duncan, showing him the test results as proof. When Veronica goes to Lilly to find out why Duncan broke up with her so suddenly, Duncan tells her, but Lilly wants to make certain for herself before telling Veronica.

She gets Weevil to help her get her hands on the paternity test results. Maybe Celeste had them in the house somewhere, maybe they were in Weidman's office, but Lilly needed help getting them.

Weevil steals the file from wherever it is and hands it over without knowing what it is. Inside Lilly finds two test results, the one Celeste showed Duncan, and the real results, which show that that Jake Kane is not Veronica's dad.

Furious, Lilly confronts her mother, there's a struggle and Lilly falls and bashes her head. Knowing the whole truth will come out if she admits to the accident, Celeste gets Weidman to help her cover it up.

I think Celeste overstepped things just a tad when she got Weidman to help her blackmail Lianne into leaving town though. Trying to hire Keith to investigate Jake's infidelities was stupid as well. Maybe she suspected Keith was still looking into Lilly's death and hoped that finding out about Jake and Lianne would make him angry enough to forget about it, at least for a while. Obviously it didn't quite work out that way.

That sounds pretty good, except I think Celeste actually hit her daughter with something. I finally caught up with the eps I had on tape. I'm definately getting this when it comes on DVD. This is probably one of the best shows on TV right now.

[Steve]

Between this and the finale of the Amazing Race this is a kick ass night for TV!

The only thing that would've made it even better for me was a NEW episode of The Shield tonight. But FX had to screw it up with double showings of Independence Day. Ugh.

[Taltos]

Anyone else sort of feeling gypped that it was all a case of drunken teenagers not remembering what happened?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not rooting for sexual assault, but to have spent the whole season thinking our heroine was raped and then to find out it was "consensual." (I'm leaving out the potential Eww factor of incest for the moment).
I didnt feel gypped at all, the incest was more than mind blowing. The fact that Duncan knew they were brother and sister, and he knew they had sex; that was just wow.

I'm a little bit pissed about Logan. Just when you thought he was turning into quite the stand up guy by throwing out his friends for insulting his girlfriend, then we get played with with the idea he might be setting her up for a sex tape.

I'm hoping it's equipment that belongs to his father, but darn that was too bad. I was beginning to like him.
Thats what I was thinking. I doubt he would defend her in front of all his friends and then do something as weak as taping her without her consent.

Nice that Weevil was there to pick up Veronica.
He is easily the coolest person in this F***ed up town.

How about poor Wallace, all this time he thinks Veronica is lying to him and then she drops the whole enchilada on him and he looks like he got hit by a truck.
Hmm I didnt know he was being kept in the dark.

One thing, when Duncan yelled at Veronica that she was his sister, how come it was something that was pretty much ignored after that. I would think it would be something that would dominate the rest of the episode as Veronica freaked out.
She confided in Wallace and Duncan was probably surpressed by his mother.


I can't wait for next week's episode it looks freaking intense. I really now have no idea who the killer will turn out to be.

This show has consistently kicked ass all year. It's easily my favorite this year.

Im going with Veronica's mom for the kill.

[adamthered]

WOW! WOW! WOW!

What a finale! Best first season of a show I have seen, ever.

That episode was just suspensful. And a great "Felicity Season 1" type ending. Who's that at the door?

I about freaked though, we lost the bit with Logan at the sheriff's office to some dumbing "Breaking News" about two planes that ran into one another at the airport. Bah!

10/10 for Veronica Mars. So happy it's coming back next year.

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[Deathstroke]

This was an absolutely awesome episode.

What an amazing way to wrap up a superb first season.

Duncan's parents really thought he had killed Lily.

Veronica turned in Logan, but she turned out to have the wrong Echolls.

Yes indeed, it turns out Lily was having sex with Aaron Echolls and found out that he was taping their little trysts. Yes, in the same room where Veronica found the cameras and thought it was Logan taping them.

She found tapes in Lily's room proving it. But Aaron was in the back of her car and Veronica crashed the car to get away from him. He ended up putting her in a refrigerator and setting it on fire.

But her dad (and he is her dad because the DNA test came back saying so in a scientific manner) showed up. He engaged Aaron in a brutal fight, losing, but as Aaron made his escape he was hit by a car. The bastard is under arrest.

Veronica discovered her mom's water bottle was actually a vodka bottle. She is still drinking, checked out early from the rehab, thereby forfeiting Veronica's college money. Veronica came home from the hospital and confronted her mom, and threw her out. Mom left in the morning, but not before stealing the $50,000 dollar check Keith Mars had received from the Kanes for tracking down Duncan when he split to Cuba.

Weevil overheard Veronica when she told her dad she suspected Logan, and he was going after him when the cops picked him up for questioning. Later Weevil and his biker buddies found a drunk Logan on a bridge (presumably the one where his mother jumped from.) That's the last we see of them for the rest of the episode.

The very end of the episode features the second of the two part cliffhanger. Veronica wakes and answers a knock on the door. You don't see who it is, but she says "I was hoping it would be you."

Now comes the question of what happened between Logan and Weevil and who was at the door.

The candidates for the door are Wallace, Duncan, Logan, Weevil, or Deputy Leo.

All in all, a fantastic season ender. The show had already clinched my Best New Series vote, but now it's definitely earned a spot in my Top 5 Shows of the Year.

[LtMarvel]

Five stars. I had to watch it on tape; I rewound the scene which Veronica signed her name several times.

Aaron was a complete idiot. There was another eyewitness to the tape! Further, there's going to be some explaining to be done by the Kanes re: the coverup.

A very good episode with only a focus on the A story. Well done!

[Deathstroke]

I think only 24 has a a shot at coming up with a better season finale.

[Spastic Minnow]

Excellent, Excellent episode!

There were some nit-picky things that, if done, would have ruined the suspense but still stick in my head. Veronica should have stayed at the Kane house, there were plenty of people there to protect her, including Ah-Nold apparently. Keith should have brought Backup with him when searching for Veronica, it would have ruined the great surprise moment later but why bring him if you just want him to stay in the car?

Oh well, suspending belief/ reason I go back to my excellent-excellent rating. I feel like I should have guessed Aaron, and there were times I considered it but pushed it out of mind because I really wanted it to be Celeste.

And there's plenty to bring back for next season. What'd Weevil do to Logan? What'll happen to the Kanes? What'll Veronica's mom do with the money?

What will the theme song be next year? ;)

[adamthered]

And, we still don't exactly know what Weevil and Lilly's true relationship was.

Plenty of stuff for next season.

[Slappy san]

I watced it on dvd. Great stuff. Can't wait for next year.

[Taltos]

How do we know that video equipment wasn't Aaron's instead of Logan's?

Wasn't it fishy that the snobby rich girl mentioned she had the hots for Logan's dad?

Maybe there's a videotape out there somewhere of Aaron and Lilly Kane?

I give you your props. You were right on the money. :D

[Indigo Al]

I give you your props. You were right on the money. :D
:D :D :D
I thank you kindly

[Shades0077]

Oh snap, son! That was amazing! Definitely never would have called that. Fantastic ending to a pretty freaking sweet season.

My only complaint, and it's more of a general one, is how people always end up in someone's back seat. How can you not see them when you get into your car? I hate when that's used in movies and tv shows. It's so lame.

[Steve]

I really enjoyed the finale. Really top notch.

I almost shed a tear when Keith told Veronica that she was her pops. Very emotional moment.

My guess would be either the Deputy or Wallace at the door. If I had to pick one, I'd say the Deputy.

Logan was with Weevil and Duncan was with his father.

[Deathstroke]

:D :D :D
I thank you kindly


Yeah you got that one on the money.

Ya Bastard!

[Deathstroke]

My guess would be either the Deputy or Wallace at the door. If I had to pick one, I'd say the Deputy.

Logan was with Weevil and Duncan was with his father.

Actually we don't know where any of them are.

Hours had passed since Veronica went to sleep.

[Steve]

Actually we don't know where any of them are.

Hours had passed since Veronica went to sleep.
Even so, I'm still sticking with the Deputy.

[Deathstroke]

UPN will begin reairing the first season of Veronica Mars in mid June.

[Rabid Trekkie]

I finally saw the finale. Wow, it completely blew me away. I didn't see it being Aaron Echolls at all, though now that I think about it all the info was there to point to him.

I really want Logan to live, if he jumps or Weevil kills him Veronica will never forgive herself.

I really think this was the best show on television. I liked it better than Lost. Any word on what the story arc for next season will be.

Oh and come September I'm getting the dvds.

[Deathstroke]

Here's the update on the first season DVD set for Veronica Mars. (http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/newsitem.cfm?NewsID=3619)

It's due out October 11th, 3 weeks after the second season premiere. It will feature an alternate cut of the pilot episode, deleted scenes and bloopers.

[Arune Singh]

I've never seen the show. I think the lead is hot beyond words and the premise of the show sounds cool.

Worth buying the dvds?

[Deathstroke]

I've never seen the show. I think the lead is hot beyond words and the premise of the show sounds cool.

Worth buying the dvds?

It was the best new show of the fall season, even better than Lost and it paid off everything it promised in the season finale.

[GremlinClr]

It was the best new show of the fall season, even better than Lost and it paid off everything it promised in the season finale.

Since I don't get UPN and haven't had a chance to see any episodes, it's nice to finally know the release date. I've had it in the "saved" section of my Netflix queue for a couple months now.

[Rabid Trekkie]

I've never seen the show. I think the lead is hot beyond words and the premise of the show sounds cool.

Worth buying the dvds?

More than definately. Deathstroke isn't lying when he says it was the best new show last season. I'm planning on buying it the day it comes out.

[Deathstroke]

More than definately. Deathstroke isn't lying when he says it was the best new show last season. I'm planning on buying it the day it comes out.


That's right, you must agree with Deathstroke. He never lies...well unless there's large sums of money involved.

What? I can be bought it's just a very large price tag.

[adamthered]

I've never seen the show. I think the lead is hot beyond words and the premise of the show sounds cool.

Worth buying the dvds?

Yes, this was the best show of last season. Great writing, great acting, you really grow to like the characters. Each episode a little bit of the mystery falls into place until that amazing season finale.

October 11th, Best Buy, my lunch break, Veronica will be mine.

[Deathstroke]

Here's a better look at the box art for Season 1. (http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/newsitem.cfm?NewsID=3704)

[Deathstroke]

CBS has announced they will air 4 episodes of the show's first season beginning with a double header of episodes on Friday July 29th at 8 pm. One more episode will air the following two Fridays, August 5th and 12th.

The episodes will focus on self contained mysteries rather than the Lilly Kane murder mystery.

http://images.zap2it.com/20041014/kristenbell_veronicamars_240_006.jpg

[Rabid Trekkie]

CBS has announced they will air 4 episodes of the show's first season beginning with a double header of episodes on Friday July 29th at 8 pm. One more episode will air the following two Fridays, August 5th and 12th.

The episodes will focus on self contained mysteries rather than the Lilly Kane murder mystery.

http://images.zap2it.com/20041014/kristenbell_veronicamars_240_006.jpg

I think this is good news that a bigger network will be advertising VM but why is CBS doing it? Will the show be changing networks or getting bigger investors?

[Steve]

I think this is good news that a bigger network will be advertising VM but why is CBS doing it? Will the show be changing networks or getting bigger investors?
Well, both CBS and UPN are owned by Viacom. It's clearly a part of an effort to increase exposure and reach new viewers for Veronica Mars.

It's kind of like what NBC recently did for Battlestar Galactica by airing it on their network. Both Sc-Fi and NBC are owned by NBC Universal. However, the results of the ratings were less than stellar from what I've read.

[Deathstroke]

Here's two updates on the first season's DVD release.

Update #1 (http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/newsitem.cfm?NewsID=3845) and Update #2. (http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/newsitem.cfm?NewsID=3846)

[adamthered]

I can't wait to get this boxset!

[GremlinClr]

Well I haven't actually seen the show since I don't get UPN but I've heard so many good things about I put it in my Netflix que.

[Deathstroke]

I can't wait to get this boxset!

Same here, and I'm still watching the repeats on UPN and the ones they are showing Fridays on CBS. Well one more episode to come anyway for CBS.

[Deathstroke]

The executive producer of Veronica Mars has posted the audio commentary for the pilot episode online. The 1st season DVD set comes out tomorrow!

You can check out the commentary (wait to you have the episode obviously) here. (http://www.slaverats.com/files/DVD_Commentary.mp3)

[Slappy san]

The executive producer of Veronica Mars has posted the audio commentary for the pilot episode online. The 1st season DVD set comes out tomorrow!

You can check out the commentary (wait to you have the episode obviously) here. (http://www.slaverats.com/files/DVD_Commentary.mp3)

Thanks for th heads up. I havent been to slaverats in months.

EDIT: Uh oh...this is the for the extended pilot isnt it. Oh well.

[Deathstroke]

Thanks for th heads up. I havent been to slaverats in months.

EDIT: Uh oh...this is the for the extended pilot isnt it. Oh well.

I guess it is, I'm waiting to have my DVD set, so I haven't actually listened to the link yet.

[Arune Singh]

Just finished the first disc and WOW. Excellent show. It has avoided ALL the damn cliches of the teen drama genre and told some great stories with characters who act like real people. Smallville and The O.C could really learn from this show.

[Deathstroke]

Just finished the first disc and WOW. Excellent show. It has avoided ALL the damn cliches of the teen drama genre and told some great stories with characters who act like real people. Smallville and The O.C could really learn from this show.

Glad to have another convert to the cause!

[Arune Singh]

Glad to have another convert to the cause!

It's a really well done tv show. None of the characters are extreme caricatures, even Logan, who I feared would become an uberprick. They also avoid those uncomfortable "teen" scenes, where characters act utterly stupid because they're teens (see "Buffy") or where they act like brats and we're supposed to empathize.

[GremlinClr]

Just finished the first disc and WOW. Excellent show. It has avoided ALL the damn cliches of the teen drama genre and told some great stories with characters who act like real people. Smallville and The O.C could really learn from this show.

I agree. I just watched the first disc via netflix and just moved all the other discs to the top of my queue. It's a darn fine show. Wish I got UPN.

[Deathstroke]

It's a really well done tv show. None of the characters are extreme caricatures, even Logan, who I feared would become an uberprick. They also avoid those uncomfortable "teen" scenes, where characters act utterly stupid because they're teens (see "Buffy") or where they act like brats and we're supposed to empathize.

Did you watch the first episode with the commentary link I posted a few messages back?

[Deathstroke]

I agree. I just watched the first disc via netflix and just moved all the other discs to the top of my queue. It's a darn fine show. Wish I got UPN.

I've seen most of the episodes at least twice. Some of them 3x.

Now if my DVD set would arrive since I preordered it, I'd be happy.

[Deathstroke]

Whoo Hoo! I got my 1st season DVD set and get to enjoy the magical ride all over again!

[mattbib]

I've only seen one or two eps from Season 1. But I'm loving Season 2. I did buy Season 1 on DVD but haven't gotten around to watching it yet.

[Deathstroke]

Well get on the stick Mr. Bib!

You must watch Season 1!

[Hi-Fi]

I've only seen one or two eps from Season 1. But I'm loving Season 2. I did buy Season 1 on DVD but haven't gotten around to watching it yet.

So now you know the end of season 1...

see it already, matt!!

[Arune Singh]

I heard that S2 will be in reruns next week: any chance they'll show the episodes I've missed, in order, so I can catch up?

[Deathstroke]

I heard that S2 will be in reruns next week: any chance they'll show the episodes I've missed, in order, so I can catch up?

No idea which episode they are showing, but if you go on what they did when they repeated the S1 eps during the summer, they'll jump around.

[Steve]

UPN is showing an encore of the first episode of Season 2 next week before returning with a new episode November 9th.

[Elias Bogan]

Congratulations to the fans of "Veronica Mars" for getting the highest ratings for the show ever this week!!! I personally dont watch but the fact that a UPN show is managing those numbers and growing it against all odds is incredible.

[Spastic Minnow]

Congratulations to the fans of "Veronica Mars" for getting the highest ratings for the show ever this week!!! I personally dont watch but the fact that a UPN show is managing those numbers and growing it against all odds is incredible.

Well, Lost and Criminal Minds were reruns, so they had that going for them.

Still, it shows people will watch if they don't have to choose between it and Lost. I still don't think Wednesday is the best day for it, but they seem insistent that it and Favorite Model are complimentary. Whatever.

[Deathstroke]

Well, Lost and Criminal Minds were reruns, so they had that going for them.

Still, it shows people will watch if they don't have to choose between it and Lost. I still don't think Wednesday is the best day for it, but they seem insistent that it and Favorite Model are complimentary. Whatever.

Just so everyone remembers we do have a Season 2 thread here for this stuff.

[GremlinClr]

Wow.

I just finished the last disc of season 1. Man, what a great show! Really makes we wish I got UPN. It will really suck having to wait til the next season comes out on DVD.