View Full Version : Wolverine #62 - Spoilers/Review
Brian M.
02-13-2008, 03:31 PM
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So I got 6 six comics this week and X-Force was the first one I read, love the book, highly recommended. Then I had to choose what to read next...do I read Millar/Hitch's sure to be gold Fantastic Four? New Avengers and the break up? What about Amazing Spider-Man #550? I mean who the hell is Jackpot?
No. The next book I picked up was Wolverine #62 by Jason Aaron and Ron Garney.
I picked right I think.
The story starts out in 1921 in the Sonoran Desert in Mexico.
Wolverine is held prision and is being tied up in front of a firing range. Next to him is a lovely blue skinned, red haired bitch. Logan apprently was a horse theif, Mystique...for being Mystique.
Logan starts to laugh and she asks him if he's got an ace up his sleeve.
!FUEGO!
The guns go off.
Flash forward to present day. The Safed Koh Mountains, Afghanistan.
Wolverine walks up and asks where the hell she is? He can smell her all over this place. He keeps sniffing. Keeps sniffing. Walks up to a girl in a burka and says, "Hello Raven". Then guts the girl.
The locals go ape shit. He tells them to watch, just watch, she'll transfer back to her blue skinned devil self. Keep watching.
Shit.
She doesn't. Logan tells them they better turn her over or they'll be a lot more graves.
Flashback to three days ago. Muir Island.
Another great Logan/Cyclops chat. Logan walks up to Scott and says he knows why he called him. Wants him to get X-Force to after her. Scott says your damn right. After how she betrayed them. Logan says he'll go get her, but on his own. Cyclops asks him if he thinks this is wise? What with the history they have. Logan says now isn't the time.
Cyclops tells him if he understands that he's not asking him to bring her back...atleast not breathing. Logan's game. Scott asks him if he needs anything, Logan says nothing.
Cyclops laughs, she could be anywhere now, impersonating ANYONE. Logan says give him 9 hours.
8 and half hours after the talk with Cyclops, in Tehran, Iran.
Wolverine walks up to a muslim praying.
"How about you and me step outside Raven?"
The old man starts speaking Farsi. Wolverine gets mobbed by a bunch of other muslim men praying. They gang tackle him. The old man escapes outsider.
Turns out the old man was Mystique.
She detonates a bomb. Blows up the Mosque. Runs out telling Logan he'll have to do better than that.
Wolverine is last seen carring out bodies.
Flashback to 1921.
Wolverine has escaped the firing squad and has killed the guards. He's been shot but he's Wolverine, he's fine. Mystique asks him if it hurts, he says always. She asks him how he knew she'd be able to untie herself and then both be safe. Logan says he didn't. They walk off into the sunset agreeing to go get a drink.
Back to Present day, in Afghanistan.
Logan says he should have known how things were the moment he met her. He's been tracking her for three days, always one step ahead. No food, no sleep, no mercy.
He comes upon a dead girl with 3 stab wounds in her stomach.
"Damn it to Hell!"
Logan screams for her to come out.
Mystique is seen behind a wall...she's disquised as Wolverine.
Just then the locals that witnessed "Wolverine" killing the girl are shown loading up guns.
Wolverine confronts Raven, time to make it quick. Raven replies that it'll have to be another time.
The locals come out and are armed to the teeth and aiming right at Wolverine...
To Be Continued....
REVIEW:
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Great issue. All around. This obviously takes place before X-Force since Cyclops and them are still on Muir Island. It's curious why Cyclops would let him go after her alone but not the Purifiers...but why dwell.
Loved the story. The pacing was excellent, the flashing back and forth was not confusing at all. Jason Aaron does a wonderful job with Logan's voice. His Mystique is clever too. Killing the town girl to get the people after Logan. I still think Carey writes the best Mystique, but this is by no means a bad verison.
The art...the art is a breath of fresh air. Don't get me wrong, I like Bianchi and am looking forward to seeing him on Astonishing, but after 6 issues of Chaykin, I needed this. It's better than his Spider-Man IMO.
Overall, buy this story. It's good.
Toboe
02-13-2008, 03:37 PM
Agreed, this was a great issue and also my next read after X-Force.
The art was quite enjoyable, I don't remember Garney being this good on his Spider-Man issues.
And how crafty is Mystique? She's sure gonna be hard to get for once... I fell right into her initial deception. What a twist.
Her first meeting with Logan was interesting, can't wait to see how their relationship turns out in the next issues.
Diablito
02-13-2008, 03:47 PM
Wow, this issue sounds really exciting!!
Affinity
02-13-2008, 04:22 PM
VERY cool issue.
For the next few months/this year, Wolverine is awesome again.
I fell for the trick too. Wolverine's sense of smell is really getting out of control. How the hell did he track her to the middle east? By scent? that's just a bit too out there. Same with X-force, i don't like how they can identify individuals by scent.
Overall, it was a good read, can't wait for next issue.
mikekerr3
02-13-2008, 04:30 PM
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So I got 6 six comics this week and X-Force was the first one I read, love the book, highly recommended. Then I had to choose what to read next...do I read Millar/Hitch's sure to be gold Fantastic Four? New Avengers and the break up? What about Amazing Spider-Man #550? I mean who the hell is Jackpot?
No. The next book I picked up was Wolverine #62 by Jason Aaron and Ron Garney.
I picked right I think.
The story starts out in 1921 in the Sonoran Desert in Mexico.
Wolverine is held prision and is being tied up in front of a firing range. Next to him is a lovely blue skinned, red haired bitch. Logan apprently was a horse theif, Mystique...for being Mystique.
Logan starts to laugh and she asks him if he's got an ace up his sleeve.
!FUEGO!
The guns go off.
Flash forward to present day. The Safed Koh Mountains, Afghanistan.
Wolverine walks up and asks where the hell she is? He can smell her all over this place. He keeps sniffing. Keeps sniffing. Walks up to a girl in a burka and says, "Hello Raven". Then guts the girl.
The locals go ape shit. He tells them to watch, just watch, she'll transfer back to her blue skinned devil self. Keep watching.
Shit.
She doesn't. Logan tells them they better turn her over or they'll be a lot more graves.
Flashback to three days ago. Muir Island.
Another great Logan/Cyclops chat. Logan walks up to Scott and says he knows why he called him. Wants him to get X-Force to after her. Scott says your damn right. After how she betrayed them. Logan says he'll go get her, but on his own. Cyclops asks him if he thinks this is wise? What with the history they have. Logan says now isn't the time.
Cyclops tells him if he understands that he's not asking him to bring her back...atleast not breathing. Logan's game. Scott asks him if he needs anything, Logan says nothing.
Cyclops laughs, she could be anywhere now, impersonating ANYONE. Logan says give him 9 hours.
8 and half hours after the talk with Cyclops, in Tehran, Iran.
Wolverine walks up to a muslim praying.
"How about you and me step outside Raven?"
The old man starts speaking Farsi. Wolverine gets mobbed by a bunch of other muslim men praying. They gang tackle him. The old man escapes outsider.
Turns out the old man was Mystique.
She detonates a bomb. Blows up the Mosque. Runs out telling Logan he'll have to do better than that.
Wolverine is last seen carring out bodies.
Flashback to 1921.
Wolverine has escaped the firing squad and has killed the guards. He's been shot but he's Wolverine, he's fine. Mystique asks him if it hurts, he says always. She asks him how he knew she'd be able to untie herself and then both be safe. Logan says he didn't. They walk off into the sunset agreeing to go get a drink.
Back to Present day, in Afghanistan.
Logan says he should have known how things were the moment he met her. He's been tracking her for three days, always one step ahead. No food, no sleep, no mercy.
He comes upon a dead girl with 3 stab wounds in her stomach.
"Damn it to Hell!"
Logan screams for her to come out.
Mystique is seen behind a wall...she's disquised as Wolverine.
Just then the locals that witnessed "Wolverine" killing the girl are shown loading up guns.
Wolverine confronts Raven, time to make it quick. Raven replies that it'll have to be another time.
The locals come out and are armed to the teeth and aiming right at Wolverine...
To Be Continued....
REVIEW:
-----------------------------------------
Great issue. All around. This obviously takes place before X-Force since Cyclops and them are still on Muir Island. It's curious why Cyclops would let him go after her alone but not the Purifiers...but why dwell.
Loved the story. The pacing was excellent, the flashing back and forth was not confusing at all. Jason Aaron does a wonderful job with Logan's voice. His Mystique is clever too. Killing the town girl to get the people after Logan. I still think Carey writes the best Mystique, but this is by no means a bad verison.
The art...the art is a breath of fresh air. Don't get me wrong, I like Bianchi and am looking forward to seeing him on Astonishing, but after 6 issues of Chaykin, I needed this. It's better than his Spider-Man IMO.
Overall, buy this story. It's good.
Mystique didn't kill the town girl it's the ame one the Logan murdered in cold blood earlier.
Brian M.
02-13-2008, 04:31 PM
Mystique didn't kill the town girl it's the ame one the Logan murdered in cold blood earlier.
She did kill the town girl. She set it all up as a trap. Logan wouldn't just gut someone unless he was 100% it was Mystique.
Josef F.
02-13-2008, 04:31 PM
I.love.pointy,angular.mystique.on.the.cover.
:D
darksaint124
02-13-2008, 04:38 PM
She did kill the town girl. She set it all up as a trap. Logan wouldn't just gut someone unless he was 100% it was Mystique.
There seems to be a lot of people falling for that.
mikekerr3
02-13-2008, 05:16 PM
She did kill the town girl. She set it all up as a trap. Logan wouldn't just gut someone unless he was 100% it was Mystique.
He killed first. checked never. He was 100% wrong. Unless somehow she was the one who gutted the village girl Logan committed murder.
Brian M.
02-13-2008, 05:20 PM
He killed first. checked never. He was 100% wrong. Unless somehow she was the one who gutted the village girl Logan committed murder.
She was the one who gutted the village girl. You see it when Logan walks up on her at the end. She's standing there behind a wall laughing. For someone reason Mystique has been able to reproduce his claws. Not adamantium, but it was her. She set it up as a trap. Taunted the villagers so when Logan did come looking for her they would stall him so she could get away. I don't see how it's hard to see. Reading comprehension is a must.
darksaint124
02-13-2008, 05:25 PM
He killed first. checked never. He was 100% wrong. Unless somehow she was the one who gutted the village girl Logan committed murder.
Read the issue again and look at the wall that Mystique is pressed against when she reverts. Now go back a couple of pages and look at the picture with the claws that are stained with blood. Notice anything behind that, kind of like *gasp* a wall. while the real Logan is seen in the panel before that walking up to the alley Mystique is pressed up against.
drwho
02-13-2008, 05:54 PM
This issue bugged me. So are we supposed to think now that it is okay going around cutting up harmless people just to get to Mystique? Plus the whole flash back was just dumb. Ugghh.
Hi-Fi
02-13-2008, 05:56 PM
This issue bugged me. So are we supposed to think now that it is okay going around cutting up harmless people just to get to Mystique? Plus the whole flash back was just dumb. Ugghh.
That WAS Mystique cutting up the harmless girl.
Flashback doesn't look so dumb now, huh? ;)
drwho
02-13-2008, 05:57 PM
That WAS Mystique cutting up the harmless girl.
Flashback doesn't look so dumb now, huh? ;)
lol i read through this too fast and didnt pay attention.
Pach!
02-13-2008, 05:57 PM
This issue bugged me. So are we supposed to think now that it is okay going around cutting up harmless people just to get to Mystique? Plus the whole flash back was just dumb. Ugghh.
We're supposed to see that the cutting of harmless people was done by Mystique as a trap for Wolverine.
darksaint124
02-13-2008, 05:59 PM
We're supposed to see that the cutting of harmless people was done by Mystique as a trap for Wolverine.
I basically spelled it out for everyone and people are still questioning it. Why don't the others read before they post?
Jackob
02-13-2008, 06:21 PM
loved the issue
when i was reading it and saw wolverine kill the girl i was shocked, i was hopeing that aaron wasnt makeing logan into a straight up murderer, but when i saw that it was mystique at the end, that just made the issue for me. i didnt see it coming and it was great.
i should have seen it coming because the bad guy is a shapeshifter but i didnt and it was great.
aaron is awsome, his ghost rider this week was realy good too.
Mitsaso
02-13-2008, 07:28 PM
Awesome issue! First time I enjoyed a solo Wolverine issue.
Mystique rocks my socks! And cowgirl!Mystique in the flashback almost turned me straight!!!!:eek:
One thing though; Where the hell does Cyclops get off ordering the murder of Mystique? The Purifiers, I can get, because they are a large danger to mutantkind, but Mystique is a wild card that doesn't necessarily endanger them. Wanting her killed just to punish her for double-crossing everyone sounds out of character for Cyke, especially without consulting Kurt or Rogue first!
I really really hope Wolvie doesn't "Get Mystique" at the end. It would piss me off if she died and thankfully, Marvel hasn't teased us that this will be their "last face-off" like in the Loeb arac with Sabretooth so that calms me down a little. Hey, didn't Carey say that Iceman will be featured in some way in the x-books? Maybe he appears in the end of this arc, saves Mystique from Wolvie's claws and they run off into the sunset together:p
CMBMOOL
02-13-2008, 07:34 PM
Man, I thought it was funny for Logan to try to catch Mytique in a short time, but fail in the first try. :)
It makes his confrontion with Deadpool look more like a Cartoon than this one is more clever and more of a wild goose chase. :D
I can't wait to see if Logan is willing to do the deed and kill off the mother of one of his good friends. :(
creaky
02-13-2008, 07:35 PM
One thing though; Where the hell does Cyclops get off ordering the murder of Mystique? The Purifiers, I can get, because they are a large danger to mutantkind, but Mystique is a wild card that doesn't necessarily endanger them. Wanting her killed just to punish her for double-crossing everyone sounds out of character for Cyke, especially without consulting Kurt or Rogue first!
I don't know. Mystique's proven over and over again that she is absolutely ruthless when it comes to achieving her goals and this issue establishes that. A person like her HAS to be stopped and I think even Kurt would see that. I don't think he would be HAPPY about it, but he would likely understand.
mikekerr3
02-13-2008, 07:44 PM
I don't know. Mystique's proven over and over again that she is absolutely ruthless when it comes to achieving her goals and this issue establishes that. A person like her HAS to be stopped and I think even Kurt would see that. I don't think he would be HAPPY about it, but he would likely understand.
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Or the priest would make a deal with Mephisto and Retcon the last 20 years. Why not? It's magic:D
Omega Alpha
02-13-2008, 07:46 PM
If they don't cop out at the end and really kill Mystique, this is the awesome beginning of a pretty good arc.
I don't know. Mystique's proven over and over again that she is absolutely ruthless when it comes to achieving her goals and this issue establishes that. A person like her HAS to be stopped and I think even Kurt would see that. I don't think he would be HAPPY about it, but he would likely understand.
Not only that, but she already tried to do stuff like turn the Legacy Virus into mankind before, so she can be a threat to all of it. Plus, even if she didn't, she's so ruthless, amoral and beyond redemption that she needs to be put off despite not being a threat in a lesser scale than the one of the Purifiers or the Reavers.
Frodo-X
02-13-2008, 07:49 PM
So I got 6 six comics this week and X-Force was the first one I read, love the book, highly recommended. Then I had to choose what to read next...do I read Millar/Hitch's sure to be gold Fantastic Four? New Avengers and the break up? What about Amazing Spider-Man #550? I mean who the hell is Jackpot?
No. The next book I picked up was Wolverine #62 by Jason Aaron and Ron Garney.
I picked right I think.
Agreed, this was a great issue and also my next read after X-Force.
You guys do it the opposite of how I do. I always read in order from least to most anticipated, so I'm more likely to end on a high note.
I read this just before X-Force, so I guess we at least agree on ranking, if not method. I enjoyed it thoroughly, and also totally fell for the deception, only catching on when Logan arrives and his inner monologue, absent for the first half of the issue, suddenly kicks in.
Butters
02-13-2008, 07:50 PM
If they don't cop out at the end and really kill Mystique, this is the awesome beginning of a pretty good arc.
Doubt that he will kill her.
I thought the story was good,I just stated with MC so im lost with some changes to the x-verse
1 I thought Mystique was bad and started in the brotherhood so how and when did she become formerly a member of the x-men
2 It said that they found eachother in mexico in 1921
3 in x-men 207 it said rogue is her adoptive daughter
im behind on my x-men histery to date so if any of you can help me with this
Frodo-X
02-13-2008, 08:00 PM
I thought the story was good,I just stated with MC so im lost with some changes to the x-verse
1 I thought Mystique was bad and started in the brotherhood so how and when did she become formerly a member of the x-men
2 It said that they found eachother in mexico in 1921
3 in x-men 207 it said rogue is her adoptive daughter
im behind on my x-men histery to date so if any of you can help me with this
1 - She was. Recently she was on Rogue's team, claiming to have 'reformed'. Rogue wanted to keep her close because she didn't trust her.
2 - That part is just now unfolding in the book, so we're as in the dark as you are.
3 - That is true. Mystique is also the birth mother of Nightcrawler.
A good idea for catching up on characters you don't know much about is to look them up on Wikipedia. Helped me out loads when I was first getting back into comics. For X-Characters specifically, www.uncannyxmen.net's Character Spotlights are a good resource as well. :)
Maestro
02-13-2008, 08:04 PM
I loved this issue. Mystique is wickedly evil. :evilsmile
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/2792/evileyesky2.jpg
They better not kill her. :evilangry She survived Messiah Complex so she should survive this!
creaky
02-13-2008, 08:06 PM
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Or the priest would make a deal with Mephisto and Retcon the last 20 years. Why not? It's magic:D
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n69/roilier/mephistopunch.jpg
Hi-Fi
02-13-2008, 08:08 PM
If they don't cop out at the end and really kill Mystique, this is the awesome beginning of a pretty good arc.
Why kill a perfectly good character?
Omega Alpha
02-13-2008, 08:13 PM
Why kill a perfectly good character?
Because she isn't a perfectly good character (among other reasons). And would be much better than a cop-out with Wolverine letting her live, because that's what he does to traitor bitches
Pach!
02-13-2008, 08:20 PM
Why kill a perfectly good character?
I completely agree.
I want Cyclops to try to get rid of his enemies but I don't want him to succeed. Some villains like Mystique are too good.
Jackob
02-13-2008, 08:23 PM
Because she isn't a perfectly good character (among other reasons). And would be much better than a cop-out with Wolverine letting her live, because that's what he does to traitor bitches
he doesnt have to let her live, but she might escape, she is tricky
Slant
02-13-2008, 08:28 PM
Nah, Wolverine's been cleaning house recently. Sabertooth, Predator X, plus the countless Reavers and Purifiers. He's on a roll.
Omega Alpha
02-13-2008, 08:40 PM
he doesnt have to let her live, but she might escape, she is tricky
The whole point of it is that Wolverine is chasing Mystique non-stop and won't end the search until he kills her.
darksaint124
02-13-2008, 09:05 PM
The whole point of it is that Wolverine is chasing Mystique non-stop and won't end the search until he kills her.
Read the solicits again. There is going to be a point when he might be doing more harm than good because Mystique refuses to get caught. She will do whatever it takes by any means necessary.
Omega Alpha
02-13-2008, 09:06 PM
Read the solicits again. There is going to be a point when he might be doing more harm than good because Mystique refuses to get caught. She will do whatever it takes by any means necessary.
Leaving her alive causes more good than harm.
darksaint124
02-13-2008, 09:10 PM
Leaving her alive causes more good than harm.
He's already going through the ringer and he just found her. She's most likely going to keep putting civilians between herself and Logan until he gets the message, or until he guts her(and its kinda hard to pick out the organs of shape-shifters.)
Red Lotus
02-13-2008, 09:21 PM
Because she isn't a perfectly good character (among other reasons). And would be much better than a cop-out with Wolverine letting her live, because that's what he does to traitor bitches
I really want Wolverine to gut her. He doesn't have to kill her, but if he just maims her really really bad then I'll be happy. But some thing has to happen to her. If he just lets her go then that would be the biggest freaking let down ever.
Desmodus
02-13-2008, 09:29 PM
The whole point of it is that Wolverine is chasing Mystique non-stop and won't end the search until he kills her.
Or thinks she's dead.
And I hope she survives. She's a class A villain and character.
ANewHope
02-13-2008, 09:47 PM
Once I saw that Mystique was appearing in Wolverine, and after looking through this comic and seeing nothing but spectacular art, I bought 2 copies of it, right then and there.
I read it before driving home, I loved this from the start to finish.
Mystique is probably one of my favorite villans, potentially my absolute favorite, she's right up there with the best of em.. Joker, Magneto etc..etc....
Wow, awesome start
instant collectors item in my mind
(I also bought 2 copies of F4 and Xforce) I don't even buy Brand New Day in double, if that says anything,
CMBMOOL
02-13-2008, 10:03 PM
I really want Wolverine to gut her. He doesn't have to kill her, but if he just maims her really really bad then I'll be happy. But some thing has to happen to her. If he just lets her go then that would be the biggest freaking let down ever.
Yeah even I want to see Wolvie get her, even if she is the mother of Nightcrawler. :evilsmile
StoneGold
02-13-2008, 10:05 PM
Here's a moment of irony. All that work, and it turns out the shapeshifter is a Skrull?
Probably not going to happen, but it'd be good for a laugh.
And chalk me up to one who was momentarily confused by the reveal, until I read it a second time.
Frodo-X
02-13-2008, 10:18 PM
Here's a moment of irony. All that work, and it turns out the shapeshifter is a Skrull?
Probably not going to happen, but it'd be good for a laugh.
And chalk me up to one who was momentarily confused by the reveal, until I read it a second time.
That would be pretty funny. Unlikely, like you say, as a Skrull wouldn't give a crap about Rogue, but still...
Cosmic Book Fan
02-13-2008, 10:38 PM
I'd love to see him start slowly hacking off pieces and watch Mystique have to morph into continually smaller forms to survive (if I understand her power correctly, she can't change body mass or reattach lost limbs, even though she could eventually regenerate them, but relatively slowly)
Eventually ending with a pocket sized Mystique that he would keep as a pet, and whenever she starts to grow/regenerate, he'd cut something else off.
Optic Rage!
02-13-2008, 10:56 PM
MMMMMM.
Im torn about Cyke wanting to kill Mystique.
One half of me thinks she deserves it, Killing inocents and Moria and all the other countless shit she has done.
However the other half thinks she dosent deserve death..maybe just a good kicking.
Ill have to read the issue to judge.
Frodo-X
02-13-2008, 10:57 PM
I'd love to see him start slowly hacking off pieces and watch Mystique have to morph into continually smaller forms to survive (if I understand her power correctly, she can't change body mass or reattach lost limbs, even though she could eventually regenerate them, but relatively slowly)
Eventually ending with a pocket sized Mystique that he would keep as a pet, and whenever she starts to grow/regenerate, he'd cut something else off.
How deliciously evil!
And amusing!
Dpool
02-13-2008, 11:29 PM
Love this issues from top to bottom. I was so close to dropping this from my pull but I am really happy I didn't. The art was a breath of fresh air after the last arc and the one shot because that art was god awful. At first I loved how ruthless you assumed Logan was and I loved the twist at the end even better. This is staying on my pull list for at least this arc.
DeadXMan
02-14-2008, 01:07 AM
I can't wait to see if Logan is willing to do the deed and kill off the mother of one of his good friends. :(
ummm this is Logan we're talking about.
He was gonna kill Raven lying in the medical bay of the blackbird after what she did to Moria. only wolfsbane stopped him.
RodeoWearden
02-14-2008, 06:32 AM
I had to re-read the issue to get it, but yeah, the scene where Logan stabs the girl wasnt Logan. Raven was just putting on an act for when the real Logan got there. Fooled me too.
I doubt that Mystique will end up dead, if for no other reason than it would be too much on the heels of Sabertooth's death. I'd also miss her if it happened. She's a great villian.
I don't think Kurt would really be okay with Cyclops's order for Mystique's death, no matter what she does. Not as much because she's his mother but because of his religious convictions.
Jackob
02-14-2008, 07:19 AM
I'd love to see him start slowly hacking off pieces and watch Mystique have to morph into continually smaller forms to survive (if I understand her power correctly, she can't change body mass or reattach lost limbs, even though she could eventually regenerate them, but relatively slowly)
Eventually ending with a pocket sized Mystique that he would keep as a pet, and whenever she starts to grow/regenerate, he'd cut something else off.
then she could reunite with shortpack
timbox
02-14-2008, 07:45 AM
Looks like I chose the perfect time to start picking up Wolverine again. This arc is off to a great start, and 8 issues of Millar/McNiven following this are sure to be fantastic.
then she could reunite with shortpack
I, knew that by the time I, get to the end of this thread I, would see a cornball comment about Shortpack:rolleyes:
Meanwhile, I have #62 But, I have yet to read it properly. Looks good though.
rilokyle
02-14-2008, 08:58 AM
I posted this in the other Wolverine #62 thread, but this is what I had to say about the issue:
I haven't bought an issue of Wolverine since Operation: Zero Tolerance (and that was only because Jubilee and the X-Men were in it), but something compels me to pick this arc up. And it was pretty decent (if not quick) read. The art is very nice, and I enjoyed the Raven/Logan flashback. I really hope this doesn't end with Mystique dying, but we'll see. Overall, I think I'll stick around for this arc as it's intrigued me a bit.
Agent_Torpor
02-14-2008, 10:01 AM
Probably the best Wolverine issue i've read in quite some time. Loooong time. Jason Aaron = top notch scribe.
I bought this yesterday over X-Force #1 after flippin thru both and i'm not regretting it one bit.
gorthon616
02-14-2008, 10:18 AM
REVIEW:
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Great issue. All around. This obviously takes place before X-Force since Cyclops and them are still on Muir Island. It's curious why Cyclops would let him go after her alone but not the Purifiers...but why dwell.
Loved the story. The pacing was excellent, the flashing back and forth was not confusing at all. Jason Aaron does a wonderful job with Logan's voice. His Mystique is clever too. Killing the town girl to get the people after Logan. I still think Carey writes the best Mystique, but this is by no means a bad verison.
The art...the art is a breath of fresh air. Don't get me wrong, I like Bianchi and am looking forward to seeing him on Astonishing, but after 6 issues of Chaykin, I needed this. It's better than his Spider-Man IMO.
Overall, buy this story. It's good.
Though I doubt they really thought out the "reason" for only sending Wolverine (i.e. it's just what the writer wanted to put down), I could see the legit reason as being that Mystique does not need muscle like a group of purifiers were, so increasing strength and numbers would not help and would probably only hinder the hunt for Mystique.
Sounded good. Definitely thinking to pick it up, as I was skeptical of the new writer (who apparently people are really fond of for reasons I have no idea about). But it sounded like a good Wolverine story. (Finally).
Agent_Torpor
02-14-2008, 10:33 AM
Though I doubt they really thought out the "reason" for only sending Wolverine (i.e. it's just what the writer wanted to put down), I could see the legit reason as being that Mystique does not need muscle like a group of purifiers were, so increasing strength and numbers would not help and would probably only hinder the hunt for Mystique.
Sounded good. Definitely thinking to pick it up, as I was skeptical of the new writer (who apparently people are really fond of for reasons I have no idea about). But it sounded like a good Wolverine story. (Finally).
Read up on Jason Aaron's "Scalped" and you'll know why he's highly regarded. Thank me later.
Dpool
02-14-2008, 10:45 AM
Though I doubt they really thought out the "reason" for only sending Wolverine (i.e. it's just what the writer wanted to put down), I could see the legit reason as being that Mystique does not need muscle like a group of purifiers were, so increasing strength and numbers would not help and would probably only hinder the hunt for Mystique.
Sounded good. Definitely thinking to pick it up, as I was skeptical of the new writer (who apparently people are really fond of for reasons I have no idea about). But it sounded like a good Wolverine story. (Finally).
I think you hit the nail on the head. This was more of a solo tracking mission whereas with X-Force they needed more of the brute force to deal with the purifiers.
I still can't believe the number of people who were tricked into thinking that it was Logan who killed the girl and I thought I read comics fast!
Omega Alpha
02-14-2008, 10:56 AM
Though I doubt they really thought out the "reason" for only sending Wolverine (i.e. it's just what the writer wanted to put down), I could see the legit reason as being that Mystique does not need muscle like a group of purifiers were, so increasing strength and numbers would not help and would probably only hinder the hunt for Mystique.
Yeah, Logan can take her in a fight pretty easily, really.
brundlefly
02-14-2008, 11:24 AM
Why kill a perfectly good character?
Well, that logic has never stopped X-writers from doing so in the past. ;) And like it matters; what with Death's revolving door in the MU, she'd be back in six months, tops.
I dropped Wolvie's solo book quite some time ago due to its inconsistent level of quality, only occasionally flipping through it at my LCS to scoff at horrible stuff like Loeb's "Evolution" arc and be reminded why I didn't read the book anymore. But I was intrigued by Scalped's Jason Aaron coming onboard for this storyline and I love Mystique, so I picked up this issue. Quite glad I did, since this was really good. I'm eagerly looking forward to #63.
Is Aaron onboard for any more Wolverine issues after "Get Mystique" ends? Or is this like Warren Ellis' "Not Dead Yet" Wolvie arc (which this current storyline shares some similarities with) and he's gone once it's over?
Omega Alpha
02-14-2008, 11:35 AM
Is Aaron onboard for any more Wolverine issues after "Get Mystique" ends? Or is this like Warren Ellis' "Not Dead Yet" Wolvie arc (which this current storyline shares some similarities with) and he's gone once it's over?
Millar/Mcniven's story begins after this arc and runs through 8 issues.
OneWinged
02-14-2008, 11:37 AM
it's hilarious how many people didn't get the whole Mystique killin that woman thingy, specially when that's what makes the whole issue worth our money
by the way here's a cool wolverine 62 review i picked along the way (http://independentcomicssite.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=385&Itemid=1)
i hope after millar and cebulski aaron comes back
Hi-Fi
02-14-2008, 11:41 AM
Aaron already showed interest in coming back to Wolverine after Millar's arc. Let's hope Marvel allow him.
brundlefly
02-14-2008, 02:37 PM
Millar/Mcniven's story begins after this arc and runs through 8 issues.
Thanks for the info. Not quite what I was hoping to hear, as I was not enamored of Millar's Michael Bay-ish 'Enemy of the State/Agent of SHIELD' arc. Ah, well.
Aaron already showed interest in coming back to Wolverine after Millar's arc. Let's hope Marvel allow him.
I hope this arc sells well so that they're inclined to let him have another go on the book. I'm a huge fan of both Scalped and The Other Side and it would be great to see Aaron get more mainstream exposure.
Desmodus
02-14-2008, 02:58 PM
Is Millar’s 8 issue run going to be set in the future as the interview/preview with him says?
Or is it unknown at this time?
Valen
02-14-2008, 08:52 PM
I have recently been chopping down my pull list, so I was torn whether to buy this issue or not. I am really glad I picked it up. I don't think Aaron has written anything yet I have hated (or even disliked). I me Aaron in KC last year and will have another chance to chat with him again this year and I can't wait. The guy is gold as far as writing goes.
dotdotdot
02-14-2008, 09:44 PM
Is Millar’s 8 issue run going to be set in the future as the interview/preview with him says?
Or is it unknown at this time?
how would it be unknown after we have those interviews and previews?
Marcus_Maximus
02-15-2008, 08:07 AM
This issue was great....finally.
wolverine316
02-15-2008, 09:50 AM
Storyline and art are top notch. One of the best issues out currently.
DarthCyclopsRLZ
02-15-2008, 01:50 PM
A bit late, but what the hell.
Good issue. Last Wolvie issue I read was written by Loeb, eh. Nice change of pace.
Oh, and cowboy Mystique freakin RULES. I still want the scow dead, but damn that looked good on her.
DeadXMan
02-17-2008, 02:40 PM
didn't the preview have Logan asking if she was a synonym of the word black
(not the Big N, but the Latin word of which it was bastardize)?
I geuss Marvel got flack for it.
creaky
02-17-2008, 03:10 PM
I really hope (but I don't think it will happen) that Kurt - and maybe Rogue - is at least brought up in the arc. If Logan is prepared to take her down without even considering that this is Kurt's mom and, understanding or not, he's not likely to be very happy about it, then he's an even bigger ass than I thought he was.
Slant
02-17-2008, 04:34 PM
I'm pretty sure he's considered it, but at this point and time I doubt its going to change his decision in any way. Its not like its the first time an X Men has considered killing Mystique.
Plus, using that logic, shouldn't Rogue have considered Kurt before attempting to murder Mystique in 207? Or is it different?
creaky
02-17-2008, 07:03 PM
I'm pretty sure he's considered it, but at this point and time I doubt its going to change his decision in any way. Its not like its the first time an X Men has considered killing Mystique.
Plus, using that logic, shouldn't Rogue have considered Kurt before attempting to murder Mystique in 207? Or is it different?
I think it's different, because that was an on-the-spot decision and if anyone had the right to make it, it was her.
I'm also not saying that I think Logan should RECONSIDER killing Mystique, just that I want to see him actually take Kurt's feelings into account and not just...not care.
Slant
02-17-2008, 07:08 PM
I think it's different, because that was an on-the-spot decision and if anyone had the right to make it, it was her.
I'm also not saying that I think Logan should RECONSIDER killing Mystique, just that I want to see him actually take Kurt's feelings into account and not just...not care.
Yeah I wouldn't mind it, but they've seemingly all but ignored Kurt's connection to Mystique over recently, and I have little faith that they'd revisit it even now.
creaky
02-17-2008, 07:12 PM
Yeah I wouldn't mind it, but they've seemingly all but ignored Kurt's connection to Mystique over recently, and I have little faith that they'd revisit it even now.
Same here. *sigh*:(
DeadXMan
02-17-2008, 08:14 PM
What feelings? She threw him off a cliff when he was barley a day old.
how many times has she killed or maim his loved ones? He knows shes a mad dog that needs to be taken down.
and again this is wolverine he'll deal with the consequences of killing her after the fact. Just like always.
creaky
02-17-2008, 08:27 PM
What feelings? She threw him off a cliff when he was barley a day old.
how many times has she killed or maim his loved ones? He knows shes a mad dog that needs to be taken down.
This is Kurt we're talking about here - Mr. Bleeding Heart - and it's been shown several times that Mystique is a sore point with him (X-men Unlimited #4, X-men #174 and Nightcrawler #7 and #12). I'm sure he understands why she's being taken down, but he's not likely to be very happy about it.
and again this is wolverine he'll deal with the consequences of killing her after the fact. Just like always.
I'm sure he will. I just hope he DOES deal with the consequences in a respectful way. And that the consequences are shown.
DeadXMan
02-18-2008, 12:24 AM
This is Kurt we're talking about here - Mr. Bleeding Heart - and it's been shown several times that Mystique is a sore point with him (X-men Unlimited #4, X-men #174 and Nightcrawler #7 and #12). I'm sure he understands why she's being taken down, but he's not likely to be very happy about it.
I'm sure he will. I just hope he DOES deal with the consequences in a respectful way. And that the consequences are shown.
he dose. it's called drinking.
metalgorgomon
02-18-2008, 01:14 AM
Absolutely great issue!
I almost hated Logan when "he" stabbed the Afghan Girl in the first few pages.. What the hell did he think.. But then after it was revealed that it's all Mystique's doin... Wicked!!! The flashback story was great too..
Totally awsome issue, great story and great art.
Definitely rated it: A.
Slung
02-18-2008, 01:14 AM
he dose. it's called drinking.
How does Logan getting sloshed help Kurt deal with the situation exactly?
rwsmith
02-18-2008, 09:53 AM
Well, it doesn't exactly. But it sure makes Logan feel better. ;)
Toadman005
02-18-2008, 10:00 AM
I completely hope this arc ends with her death.
DeadXMan
02-18-2008, 10:29 PM
How does Logan getting sloshed help Kurt deal with the situation exactly?
Read Woverine Vol 3 #6
and you'll know what I mean
http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/697/wolverine36qu3.jpg
and I have no idea why kurt is nekid.
Will.S
02-18-2008, 10:37 PM
Read Woverine Vol 3 #6
and you'll know what I mean
http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/697/wolverine36qu3.jpg
and I have no idea why kurt is nekid.
Hah!
He's putting on a show for Logan. BTW CBR has a preview (http://comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=13025) for #63
creaky
02-18-2008, 10:47 PM
Read Woverine Vol 3 #6
and you'll know what I mean
That issue consisted of Logan not only drinking, but talking to Kurt and basically asking him for reassurance that he wasn't evil. In the end, it wasn't the beer that pulled him out of his funk, but Kurt.
I can just picture the scene post-"Get Mystique": Logan drinking, being insulting, whiny and obnoxious while Kurt gently tries to coax his problems out of him and they end up being...that he killed Kurt's mom and now he wants Kurt to make him feel better.
A high-maintenance friend he is, but that's a little much.
DeadXMan
02-18-2008, 11:14 PM
Hah!
He's putting on a show for Logan. BTW CBR has a preview (http://comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=13025) for #63
Man, Logan's having a bad day in 63.
and another cigar has made it past the no smoking policy!
JOY! :D
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