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Kid Icarus
02-25-2008, 06:13 PM
She can create an aura around her, that grants her flight.

Maybe if she would have mastered her power
she could have put the aura around other objects
making them levitate

Mr. Eymed
02-25-2008, 06:29 PM
Hydro is definitely pedo material. We have to keep him away from a certain octopus.

What are Aero's powers? I know she like...flies and glows and stuff, but does the glowy stuff do anything?

Well Hydro's dead now; so unless that pedophilic octopus is also a necrophiliac, I think Hydro's safe.

ChristosSoter
02-25-2008, 07:28 PM
I always thought Aero's powers were just a watered-down version of Cannonball's.

ChristosSoter
02-25-2008, 07:29 PM
Oooooooooo!!!!!

What about an Aero/Hydro romance!!!!!

Kid Icarus
02-25-2008, 07:34 PM
I think Aero would crush on Jullian or Dallas

RickyD410
02-25-2008, 07:35 PM
I think Aero would crush on Jullian or Dallas

Dallas is a good option. He didnt go for the physically mutated chicks. He wanted human looking girls. So Aero fits.

Kid Icarus
02-25-2008, 07:40 PM
When Artery is doing his superstrength all of his veins should turn blue
And when he is doing whatever else he can do, they should turn red.
Just for some fun visuals

Mr. Eymed
02-25-2008, 08:11 PM
When Artery is doing his superstrength all of his veins should turn blue
And when he is doing whatever else he can do, they should turn red.
Just for some fun visuals

Maybe he's normally the orange and blue self depicted earlier, but when he uses his powers with all the blood rushing through his body, that's when he gets pale and the different veins pop out?

worstblogever
02-25-2008, 08:17 PM
Maybe he's normally the orange and blue self depicted earlier, but when he uses his powers with all the blood rushing through his body, that's when he gets pale and the different veins pop out?

Not to seem harsh... but Artery kind of looks like a veiny um... peen.

IronKing
02-25-2008, 08:18 PM
You guys have inspired me to pick up the New Mutants series. I got back in to comics right after Academy X started, so I was unaware of previous adventures.

Just got 1 & 2 in the mail today. Should be good. =)

Mr. Eymed
02-25-2008, 08:19 PM
HAHAHAHA I will never be able to look at him with innocent eyes...

La Fea
02-25-2008, 08:19 PM
You guys have inspired me to pick up the New Mutants series. I got back in to comics right after Academy X started, so I was unaware of previous adventures.

Just got 1 & 2 in the mail today. Should be good. =)

Yaaaaaay!!!! :)

Its good to see the thread has exposed the series to at least one new person.

I really hope you enjoy it!!!

REVIEW WITH US!!!! <3333

Butters
02-25-2008, 08:21 PM
There seems to be a bit of a dilemma. The New X-men Discussion thread and the New X-men from the Beginning thread are sort of intermingling.

podmark
02-25-2008, 09:15 PM
There seems to be a bit of a dilemma. The New X-men Discussion thread and the New X-men from the Beginning thread are sort of intermingling.

New X-Men fans can never be contained to one thread.


And one day we'll rule the world :evilsmile

Victorious
02-25-2008, 10:05 PM
^lol


we should make a thread for all things Academy X: drawings, fictional bios, unknown squads, untold stories, theories about their powers, etc.
in fact, it should be called: All (Untold)Things Academy X... LOL
should we do that?

pryde15
02-25-2008, 10:06 PM
^lol


we should make a thread for all things Academy X: drawings, fictional bios, untold stories, theories about their powers, etc.
in fact, it should be called: All (Untold)Things Academy X... LOL
should we do that?

WE should. With our squad rosters, and designs.

Butters
02-25-2008, 10:06 PM
^lol


we should make a thread for all things Academy X: drawings, fictional bios, untold stories, theories about their powers, etc.
in fact, it should be called: All (Untold)Things Academy X... LOL
should we do that?

We have one. It is called the New X-men Discussion thread.

Kid Icarus
02-25-2008, 10:08 PM
^lol


we should make a thread for all things Academy X: drawings, fictional bios, unknown squads, untold stories, theories about their powers, etc.
in fact, it should be called: All (Untold)Things Academy X... LOL
should we do that?

Can I be vice president?

Victorious
02-25-2008, 10:10 PM
hahaha

yes, but we should just put all those fan art and fics n one thread only
kid icarus, i guess you can... but who's the president?
ok, so it's done...?

podmark
02-25-2008, 10:15 PM
but who's the president?

I'll be the President. I'll go all David in TMI.

Kid Icarus
02-25-2008, 10:17 PM
I'll be the President. I'll go all David in TMI.

good thing my death won't cure any diseases...

Victorious
02-25-2008, 10:21 PM
ok, done...
http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=211102

podmark
02-25-2008, 10:22 PM
good thing my death won't cure any diseases...

We'll see about that... :evilsmile

ChristosSoter
02-26-2008, 08:06 AM
New X-Men fans can never be contained to one thread.


And one day we'll rule the world :evilsmile
Ooooo! I call dibs on New Zealand!!!

RickyD410
02-26-2008, 09:02 AM
Ooooo! I call dibs on New Zealand!!!

Youre the newbie here. You get either Antarctica or a cannibalistic island in South East Asia until you earn anything better.

And the way things are going, that wont happen.

pryde15
02-26-2008, 02:53 PM
Youre the newbie here. You get either Antarctica or a cannibalistic island in South East Asia until you earn anything better.

And the way things are going, that wont happen.

I love you... :o

I wonder what country I would get...

Mr. Eymed
02-26-2008, 03:09 PM
Youre the newbie here. You get either Antarctica or a cannibalistic island in South East Asia until you earn anything better.

And the way things are going, that wont happen.

I'd don't even wanna know what I'd get stuck with :confused:

Butters
02-26-2008, 06:20 PM
I have not really commented on all the pictures that have been drawn. So everyone that has drawn: Good job.

So... Who is doing the next summary?

ChristosSoter
02-26-2008, 06:53 PM
Youre the newbie here. You get either Antarctica or a cannibalistic island in South East Asia until you earn anything better.

And the way things are going, that wont happen.
Not true!!!

Eymed is the newbie. I should at least get Hawaii!!!

Can I have the moon, too? If no one else wants it.

Mr. Eymed
02-26-2008, 07:04 PM
Not true!!!

Eymed is the newbie. I should at least get Hawaii!!!

Can I have the moon, too? If no one else wants it.

Way to throw me under the bus, dude... I hope you DO get stuck with the cannibals.

ChristosSoter
02-26-2008, 07:08 PM
Way to throw me under the bus, dude... I hope you DO get stuck with the cannibals.
Sorry, I had no choice.

La Fea
02-26-2008, 07:12 PM
Soooo....anyone wanna summarize the next issue. LOL.

IronKing
02-26-2008, 07:36 PM
Hey I just read the first two issues. Really liking what I've seen! Especially issue 1. There'd be pages with no text, and yet you still feel this connection with Sophia. I loved New X-Men, it was one of my favorite books, but this one felt so personal. And I was never a big fan of Laurie, but issue 2 was sort of sad, especially when you know her eventual fate. Even when you don't like characters, you know someone out there can relate. And despite all the buildup and backstory -- BAM. None of it matters.

Hopefully I'll see some Surge, Elixir and Prodigy in the next issues. Which I've yet to order!!!

ChristosSoter
02-26-2008, 08:32 PM
Soooo....anyone wanna summarize the next issue. LOL.
I think we were all waiting for you or Kid Icarus to do it.

P.S. I love you're sig!!!!!!!!!!!

La Fea
02-26-2008, 09:28 PM
I think we were all waiting for you or Kid Icarus to do it.

P.S. I love you're sig!!!!!!!!!!!

Well if no one posts one by tomorrow, I'll get working on it. :)

And thanks! I'm glad you recognized it!

Butters
02-26-2008, 09:28 PM
I could add summaries at some point. I don't have a scanner, but I would still be willing to do it once I get the time. (I have tests this week)

Kid Icarus
02-26-2008, 09:36 PM
I could add summaries at some point. I don't have a scanner, but I would still be willing to do it once I get the time. (I have tests this week)

I will write one what issue are we on?
Not tonight though
I have to learn stupid integrals of natural logs
and the such

Butters
02-26-2008, 09:39 PM
Our last summary was issue 7. So you will be doing Issue 8. I'll try doing Issue 9 afterwards.

ChristosSoter
02-27-2008, 08:35 AM
Idea!!!!!!!!!!!!

What If....N&C Had Written New X-men Post-HoM?

It could be a 10-issue miniseries, written by N&C!!!

RickyD410
02-27-2008, 08:54 AM
I love you... :o

I wonder what country I would get...
Hmmm. Some place in Europe I'd imagine. Or a nice Asian country.
I'd don't even wanna know what I'd get stuck with :confused:
Oh youve earned your right to a nice country. I'm thinking France, because of all your artistic talent. Or maybe Italy... Some place with a strong artistic history.
Not true!!!

Eymed is the newbie. I should at least get Hawaii!!!

Can I have the moon, too? If no one else wants it.
I knew Eymed for years at a different forum. He's new here, but not to the New X-Men forums. And besides, he's already earned his place. You're just obnoxious and annoying.

If you went to Hawaii, it'd only be so I could push you into a volcano.

Kid Icarus
02-27-2008, 02:06 PM
Whenever I venture out of the NXM threads, I garner this feeling of intimidation and dread. I really need to work on this.

Mr. Eymed
02-27-2008, 02:25 PM
Hmmm. Some place in Europe I'd imagine. Or a nice Asian country.

Oh youve earned your right to a nice country. I'm thinking France, because of all your artistic talent. Or maybe Italy... Some place with a strong artistic history.

I knew Eymed for years at a different forum. He's new here, but not to the New X-Men forums. And besides, he's already earned his place. You're just obnoxious and annoying.

If you went to Hawaii, it'd only be so I could push you into a volcano.

Huzzah! Suck on THAT, Christos! :D I kid, of course... If you were to survive the cannibals and volcanoes, you'd be welcomed in the outskirts of my lands... Just don't get too close, charred-flesh smell upsets me.

greenshoes713
02-27-2008, 08:44 PM
Hmmm. Some place in Europe I'd imagine. Or a nice Asian country.

Oh youve earned your right to a nice country. I'm thinking France, because of all your artistic talent. Or maybe Italy... Some place with a strong artistic history.

I knew Eymed for years at a different forum. He's new here, but not to the New X-Men forums. And besides, he's already earned his place. You're just obnoxious and annoying.

If you went to Hawaii, it'd only be so I could push you into a volcano.

wow thats harsh and unnesasery

sry 4 bad spellin'

pryde15
02-28-2008, 06:28 PM
Not that this little "discussion" hasn't been interesting, but is anyone going to summarize #8? I don't have that issue, so I would like to know what happens :(

La Fea
02-28-2008, 08:12 PM
Not that this little "discussion" hasn't been interesting, but is anyone going to summarize #8? I don't have that issue, so I would like to know what happens :(

I'll see if I can whip one up before my forehead falls flat onto the keyboard. ;)

Actually, I can't. I'm deathly tired. If no one does it tomorrow I'll try if I remember to visit this thread!

In the meantime, check out its hot ass cover!!!

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/9615/newmutants28wl2.jpg

Hi-Fi
02-28-2008, 08:21 PM
Well, this thread quickly became a trainwreck. People calling other obnoxious and annoying for no apparent reason is beyond ridiculous.

ChristosSoter
02-28-2008, 08:22 PM
That's awsome!!!

Is that a toad?

pryde15
02-28-2008, 08:25 PM
I'll see if I can whip one up before my forehead falls flat onto the keyboard. ;)

Actually, I can't. I'm deathly tired. If no one does it tomorrow I'll try if I remember to visit this thread!

In the meantime, check out its hot ass cover!!!

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/9615/newmutants28wl2.jpg

love that cover, Bachalo always does a great job.

La Fea
02-28-2008, 08:27 PM
That's awsome!!!

Is that a toad?

LOL I suppose it is!

I really like how Bachalo did the cover.

ChristosSoter
02-28-2008, 08:29 PM
Those are some sweet shoes

pryde15
02-28-2008, 08:32 PM
Those are some sweet shoes

Those things are hideous. They are platform tennis boots, and to top it off they are fuschia.

Butters
02-28-2008, 08:33 PM
Hopefully I can get the time to summarize this tomorrow. I believe that I really liked this issue.

ChristosSoter
02-28-2008, 08:39 PM
Those things are hideous. They are platform tennis boots, and to top it off they are fuschia.
It was a joke

pryde15
02-28-2008, 08:41 PM
It was a joke

No need for you to get uptight, over me saying what I didn't like about the shoes. It's insanely hard to figure out your humor, sorry to tell you.

ChristosSoter
02-28-2008, 08:43 PM
I wasn't getting up-tight.

And I know, I like to joke at weird times. And in weird ways

La Fea
02-28-2008, 08:45 PM
Well I actually like the shoes. :o

I would never wear them, but they're cute on a comicbook character and with Bachalo's style IMO.

:o :o :o

pryde15
02-28-2008, 08:46 PM
Well I actually like the shoes. :o

I would never wear them, but they're cute on a comicbook character and with Bachalo's style IMO.

:o :o :o

LOL. I love Bachalo's style, but I think he could've done something else.

ChristosSoter
02-28-2008, 08:46 PM
They look good on that cover

I don't know about anywhere else

podmark
02-28-2008, 09:02 PM
I wasn't getting up-tight.

And I know, I like to joke at weird times. And in weird ways

Smilies Christos. That how you show humor online. :p

talat77
02-29-2008, 12:43 AM
Summary for New Mutants #8:

We see Julian, Josh, Victor and the rock-kid, who is named Santo this issue, (you guys are doing the: we read this as new, not knowing of what's to come in future issues, right?) playing with a frisbee on the school grounds...
Josh and Julian are bitching about their detention (see last issue) and about their advisors Northstar and Moonstar and wanting someone cool, like Miss Frost...
After catching the frisbee with his prehensile tongue, Victor tells them them he plans to stick with Karma, cause he likes her :) Josh is grossed out by getting Vic's drool on the frisbee and Julian sticks up for Vic, which is kinda sweet and cute...
Santo throws the frisbee way too hard which causes it to go over the fence but Julian stops it on time with his telekinesis, and meets a homeless and apparently smelly girl in front of the gate. The girl talks really fast and asks to be let in in but Jules is being a preppy prick and sends her away... Josh wants to butt in but the girl is gone in a flash, leaving a trail of electricity behind...
Northstar shows up, reminding J&J about their assignments to be helping with the preparations for parents week and all 4 boys run inside...

Scene change to Salem center:
Dani takes Shan to the coffeeshop to which David introduced her the other day... (The Grindstone) She wants Shan to meet Luna, the girl who was hitting on Dani earlier... Shan is kinda offended by the idea and says she just wants coffee...

Xavier's again:
Some parents are walking about at the school and David takes his parents to his room and introduces them to Josh, his roommate... Since Josh his parents are not there (again, see previous issues), David's mom invites him to come along with them on the tour but David's being a bitch and lectural and says no...

Outside:
Laurie meets up with her mom, they hug... Bubblegum (yes I am more of a silent reader on these forums but know that you guys have named the pink guy/gal and love it!!!)hugs someone (surprise surprise) and Sofia meets Davids parents but keeps the conversation short because she sees Derek. The butler, who is also her BFF, LOL tells her he has a surprise and that her dad will arrive tomorrow too...

Julian tells a lie about his parents not wanting to see him so that Northstar feels sorry for him and lets him off the hook for registering duty...
Victor introduces his parents to Shan, his advisor and she tells them Vic is one of her favorite students and that she would like to discuss Vic's 'situation' with them later... And Julian meets up with Vic, and again a very cute and sweet scene between the 2...

The Grindstone again:
David and his parents are having drinks and his dad tells him that Harvard doesn't accept students from Xavier's, so maybe David needs to leave if he wants to attend college...

The next morning:
Sofia meets her dad and discovers he only agreed to meet her just to get Derek back working for him again... (He had left her dad after the Reavers thing). Sofia freaks out and chases her dad and Derek away with her fabulous windpowers. We see Dani watching from the window while Emma Frost walks towards Sofia...
Emma calms Sofia down and tries to lure her into trusting her instead of her current advisor. Dani to the rescue, with Laurie right behind her!
Dani and Emma bicker a little while Laurie comforts Sofia, that they are her family now, cause that's what BFF's do :)

Later, Northstar's office:
Julian tells Northstar he wants Emma Frost to be his advisor now, which Northstar thinks is a mistake, but he says that he will sign the transfer anyway. In the hallway, Miss Frost is waiting for Julian and he asks her if she can take Josh too. She tells him she'd like the challenge, with Josh being a former Reaver and all... Oops, Julian didn't know that... Julian doesn't like!!!

Outside:
David meets Sofia and Laurie who are sitting under a tree, K I S S I N G, oh no, they weren't, I just made that up hehehe...
Josh walks past them , straight towards Julian and Santo and asks him how it went with Frost. Julian spills the beans about Reavers and stuff and him and Santo start to pick on Josh. They are not his buddies anymore.
David and the girls to the rescue and things start to get out of hand...
Untill Vic comes running towards them, tagging along Shan. She stops the fight by taking over the boys' minds and sending them to their rooms...

Sofia and Laurie also walk to their room later where a surprise awaits Sofia. Laurie let derek in there and she leaves them alone to talk... Again, she is such a BFF :)

Later we see David with his parents again, in front of the school this time and he tells them he's staying at Xavier's, and if that means he can't go to Harvard because of that, then them's the beans... His friends are here and here is where he belongs...
Inside his room, Josh is laying on his (own) bed and when David shows him the detention notice, Josh asks him if David is going to lecture him again...
They reconcile, Josh thanks him for sticking up for him, earlier with the fight with Julian and Santo... And there is the start of their brother-brother relationship I guess...

One more time, the Grindstone:
Luna, (the uber cool lesbian chick) notices the lights are blown and mumbles to herself about letting her employers close up shop, and basically suck at it... When taking out the garbage she apparently sees someone in the alley/back or whatever who apparently doesn't look so well and offers her help and food...
We don't see anyone, but a bolt/jolt of lightning and then Luna zapped out on the ground, injured... So probably safe to assume the person she was talking to is the girl who Julian sent away earlier...

What I thought of the issue:
I believe this was the issue which had to be changed while it was already at the print... The famous never happened suicide issue in which we would have lost Anole if editorial hadn't changed their mind at the very last moment. Which explains the art change somewhere around half of the issue, and not for the better IMO. Ugly art which seems really rushed... That or it is just ugly, you pick...
Anyway, the friendships between the main characters is deepened further in this issue... A bit boring for my taste, but I did like the Anole appearances and Carlo Barberi really draws him supercute!!!
Beside Surge, wee also see Match for the first time here,(and he FLIES!!) although at this time he was just a creation Barberi liked to draw... I remember N&C saying that on a website at that time and that they had no plans for using him or fleshing him out or anything... (Which later apparently changed when they decided to put him in the Paragons squad)

RickyD410
02-29-2008, 01:36 AM
Well, this thread quickly became a trainwreck. People calling other obnoxious and annoying for no apparent reason is beyond ridiculous.

I wouldnt say it trainwrecked. We get distracted easily. And it wasnt for no reason. There was a reason (were reasons) just not in this thread.

RickyD410
02-29-2008, 01:57 PM
Julian sticks up for Vic, which is kinda sweet and cute...
<snip>
And Julian meets up with Vic, and again a very cute and sweet scene between the 2...
I think Victor might have a bit of a crush on his good friend Julian. I mean, I dont want anything to come of it. But Julian is one of those guys who you kinda just HAVE to crush on. He's popular, powerful, attractive, and charismatic. Again, I'm NOT a Julian/Victor shipper. I just think its a bit of a one-sided thing from Vic's side. And I dont think Vic takes it seriously either, because he knows Julian is straight.

Since Josh his parents are not there (again, see previous issues), David's mom invites him to come along with them on the tour but David's being a bitch and lectural and says no...
Well, David's not being lectural. He doesnt lecture Josh about the situation. He makes fun of him and throws it in his face. But can you blame him? Two issues ago Josh had signed up to KILL David and his friends. Did he? No. But that was his original intention. At least, as far as David knows, that was his intention.
Emma calms Sofia down and tries to lure her into trusting her instead of her current advisor. Dani to the rescue, with Laurie right behind her!
Dani and Emma bicker a little while Laurie comforts Sofia, that they are her family now, cause that's what BFF's do :)
<snip>
Sofia and Laurie also walk to their room later where a surprise awaits Sofia. Laurie let derek in there and she leaves them alone to talk... Again, she is such a BFF :)
Laurie is the best BFF ever!!:D I miss her...

What I thought of the issue:
I believe this was the issue which had to be changed while it was already at the print... The famous never happened suicide issue in which we would have lost Anole if editorial hadn't changed their mind at the very last moment. Which explains the art change somewhere around half of the issue, and not for the better IMO. Ugly art which seems really rushed... That or it is just ugly, you pick...
Anyway, the friendships between the main characters is deepened further in this issue... A bit boring for my taste, but I did like the Anole appearances and Carlo Barberi really draws him supercute!!!
Beside Surge, wee also see Match for the first time here,(and he FLIES!!) although at this time he was just a creation Barberi liked to draw... I remember N&C saying that on a website at that time and that they had no plans for using him or fleshing him out or anything... (Which later apparently changed when they decided to put him in the Paragons squad)
Yaaa, this is that ish. I posted a few links a while ago where Nunzio and Christina explained the whole creative process of writing these stories, and specifically what they went through with this story. It was pretty interesting.

And yeah, Carlo Baberi draws Anole uber cute! I'm a big fan of the small Anole with baggy clothes, lol.

Nice summary. I really like this issue alot. I'm a big fan. We really see Laurie and Sofia's friendship strengthen here, and we see the beginning of Josh and David's relationship. And we saw how close Vic and Julian are. I'm a big fan of those two. I really liked the Josh, Julian, Victor friendship before Julian started hating Josh.

greenshoes713
02-29-2008, 04:33 PM
love that cover, Bachalo always does a great job.

i love the shoes and the toad

ChristosSoter
02-29-2008, 05:01 PM
thanks for that, talat!!!

You did a great job!!!

Butters
02-29-2008, 09:57 PM
Good to see someone write the summary.

Although the creative process behind this one was screwed up, I rather liked this issue.

Sadly, I cannot write up any summaries until we reach the point where the title became "New X-men: Academy X." I just realized I only have access to the first 6 issues of "New Mutants." Sad.

ChristosSoter
02-29-2008, 10:01 PM
Yes, it is sad.

At least you have the first arc.

5 more issues 'till Academy X!

pryde15
02-29-2008, 10:03 PM
Good to see someone write the summary.

Although the creative process behind this one was screwed up, I rather liked this issue.

Sadly, I cannot write up any summaries until we reach the point where the title became "New X-men: Academy X." I just realized I only have access to the first 6 issues of "New Mutants." Sad.

Same here, I might go buy the last 6 though.

ChristosSoter
02-29-2008, 10:07 PM
What about issue 7?

pryde15
02-29-2008, 10:09 PM
What about issue 7?

It was a 12 issue series, I own 1-6. The 6 I am going to buy are 7-12...

ChristosSoter
02-29-2008, 10:15 PM
No, there were 13 issues.

You're talking about New Mutants (vol. 2), right?

talat77
02-29-2008, 10:18 PM
Well, David's not being lectural. He doesnt lecture Josh about the situation. He makes fun of him and throws it in his face. But can you blame him? Two issues ago Josh had signed up to KILL David and his friends. Did he? No. But that was his original intention. At least, as far as David knows, that was his intention.


Well, ok, maybe he wasn't lectural in this issue, but he had been up until now... Maybe it's just me not liking David very much at this stage... I only started liking him after the arc TOO MUCH INFORMATION I think... And under C&C's pen he even became one of my faves... But in these early issues he was just annoying IMO...

thanks for that, talat!!!

You did a great job!!!

You're welcome, I only wish I could also provide some scans for the people who don't have the issues, but I do not have a scanner :(
I might do more summaries if you guys like, except for issues 11&13, because, well, I just don't want to hehe... 11 because it's to much going back and forth with flashbacks and 13 because the kide hardly play a role in it...
Can't wait to get to Academy X either, those are going to be fun!!!
AAAAAAAAAAAnd will finally showcase my 3 favourites: Dust, Trance and Loa!!!!

pryde15
02-29-2008, 10:19 PM
No, there were 13 issues.

You're talking about New Mutants (vol. 2), right?

hmm... so their were, whatever. I will buy the last 7 then.

podmark
02-29-2008, 10:24 PM
Well, ok, maybe he wasn't lectural in this issue, but he had been up until now... Maybe it's just me not liking David very much at this stage... I only started liking him after the arc TOO MUCH INFORMATION I think... And under C&C's pen he even became one of my faves... But in these early issues he was just annoying IMO...

I've heard that before, that people thought David was very annoying early on. I read Academy X first then read New Mutants later on. I wonder if I would have liked David as much if I'd started with New Mutants.

ChristosSoter
02-29-2008, 10:25 PM
on second thought, nevermind

talat77
02-29-2008, 10:35 PM
I've heard that before, that people thought David was very annoying early on. I read Academy X first then read New Mutants later on. I wonder if I would have liked David as much if I'd started with New Mutants.

Could be... Maybe try reading the issues as solo books and try to see what you think of each character without knowing anything else besides what happens in that issue...
Or don't, and just like him hehe... I don't care... I like the fact that everyone can have a different favorite...

on second thought, nevermind

And that every character also has non-fans... Like christos showed, but then later changed his mind apparently ;)

ChristosSoter
02-29-2008, 10:37 PM
I'm just to tired to aurgue about Prodigy

pryde15
02-29-2008, 10:38 PM
Could be... Maybe try reading the issues as solo books and try to see what you think of each character without knowing anything else besides what happens in that issue...
Or don't, and just like him hehe... I don't care... I like the fact that everyone can have a different favorite...



And that every character also has non-fans... Like christos showed, but then later changed his mind apparently ;)

No, it's mainly becaue whenever he says something about Prodigy, a fight insues...

ChristosSoter
02-29-2008, 10:39 PM
No, it's mainly becaue whenever he says something about Prodigy, a fight insues...
This is true

talat77
02-29-2008, 10:43 PM
AH ok, I get it...

Too bad though... Like I said, I think it's good to have different faves, otherwise we would end up with all the books just being about Wolverine or something right?? ;)

YAY for DUST, TRANCE and LOA!!!

pryde15
02-29-2008, 10:45 PM
AH ok, I get it...

Too bad though... Like I said, I think it's good to have different faves, otherwise we would end up with all the books just being about Wolverine or something right?? ;)

YAY for DUST, TRANCE and LOA!!!

YAY! I like your taste in characters :D

and its not that he says he doesn't like the character, he usually says it through insulting the character.

Mr. Eymed
02-29-2008, 10:52 PM
I actually don't really like David either. He never clicked with me the way the other kids did, but that's not to say I hate him.

ChristosSoter
02-29-2008, 11:00 PM
Again, nevermind.

pryde15
02-29-2008, 11:20 PM
I miss Ricky, Victor, and Kid Icarus :(

New X-Men aren't as much fun without them :(

ChristosSoter
03-01-2008, 12:01 AM
Aren't Ricky and Kid Icarus here, like, all the time?

pryde15
03-01-2008, 12:06 AM
Aren't Ricky and Kid Icarus here, like, all the time?

Not anymore, really, when they are on. They don't post on the NXM threads.

The Black Guardian
03-01-2008, 12:30 AM
I've heard that before, that people thought David was very annoying early on. I read Academy X first then read New Mutants later on. I wonder if I would have liked David as much if I'd started with New Mutants.
David was one of the few characters I liked in New Mutants.

podmark
03-01-2008, 01:48 AM
Not anymore, really, when they are on. They don't post on the NXM threads.

I think there's just not much to post on right now. Once the kids start appearing in books again things should pick up.

RickyD410
03-01-2008, 02:33 AM
I miss Ricky, Victor, and Kid Icarus :(

New X-Men aren't as much fun without them :(

I'm here!!! :D I like you too pryde! :)

This week has been slow. podmark's right: there hasnt been much to post about. And I had alot of work for class this week. And I'm trying to wean myself off CBR forums, cus during MC, there was a time where I was literally on CBR aaaalll day. Lol, I think podmark and Vic remember that time. Maybe it wasnt during MC, maybe it was before. I dont know. Its when spoilers were flying about, and I needed more info.

But there really isnt all that much to post about lately. I wish it werent so, but it is.... I love the New X-Men.

Although I was just talking to Chris Yost at the ComiX-fan forums. We were debating about the end of New X-Men. Chris Yost thinks that Messiah CompleX was the perfect ending to New X-Men, and I told him that I disagreed.

Man, I am sooooooooooo drunk right now. But I cant sleep till I get more water, so tomorrow wont be bad, lol.

Butters
03-01-2008, 03:43 AM
I'm here!!! :D I like you too pryde! :)

This week has been slow. podmark's right: there hasnt been much to post about. And I had alot of work for class this week. And I'm trying to wean myself off CBR forums, cus during MC, there was a time where I was literally on CBR aaaalll day. Lol, I think podmark and Vic remember that time. Maybe it wasnt during MC, maybe it was before. I dont know. Its when spoilers were flying about, and I needed more info.

But there really isnt all that much to post about lately. I wish it werent so, but it is.... I love the New X-Men.

Although I was just talking to Chris Yost at the ComiX-fan forums. We were debating about the end of New X-Men. Chris Yost thinks that Messiah CompleX was the perfect ending to New X-Men, and I told him that I disagreed.

Man, I am sooooooooooo drunk right now. But I cant sleep till I get more water, so tomorrow wont be bad, lol.

Mid-terms blow.

At any rate, posts should pick up once the kids start showing up in books.

I just went on an all-nighter and read through all of N&C's run. Fun times. Some of my character opinions changed a bit.

RickyD410
03-01-2008, 03:54 AM
I just went on an all-nighter and read through all of N&C's run. Fun times. Some of my character opinions changed a bit.

Really? Like who?

Butters
03-01-2008, 04:11 AM
Really? Like who?

To start, one of my biggest surprises was Icarus. I liked him much more than I was expecting. For some reason, I remember him being whinier, but he was actually pretty mellow.

Mercury was certainly... Different. When she addressed Laurie in the Field Day issues, it kind of caught me off guard.

Hated Rockslide. I am reminded why everyone was so baffled as to why they spared him. Tag was pretty lame as well.

What the hell happened to Hellion? N&C's Hellion was great. Such an entertaining asshole.

I forgot just how annoying Prodigy was. Surge was also rather annoying.

I was very surprised to find that I rather liked Wither very early on (before he left after being scared by Moonstar). Then when he came back, I was firmly reminded why it is that I hate him.

Sofia.... No complaints.

My opinion on Elixir stands. He rocks.

Also, as an aside, Ryan was easily the best artist.

pryde15
03-01-2008, 09:41 AM
To start, one of my biggest surprises was Icarus. I liked him much more than I was expecting. For some reason, I remember him being whinier, but he was actually pretty mellow.

Mercury was certainly... Different. When she addressed Laurie in the Field Day issues, it kind of caught me off guard.

Hated Rockslide. I am reminded why everyone was so baffled as to why they spared him. Tag was pretty lame as well.

What the hell happened to Hellion? N&C's Hellion was great. Such an entertaining asshole.

I forgot just how annoying Prodigy was. Surge was also rather annoying.

I was very surprised to find that I rather liked Wither very early on (before he left after being scared by Moonstar). Then when he came back, I was firmly reminded why it is that I hate him.

Sofia.... No complaints.

My opinion on Elixir stands. He rocks.

Also, as an aside, Ryan was easily the best artist.

I can pretty much agree on all of this. I wasn't a fan of Sofia, but now she is ok, I like her more. Now that I am re-reading it.

RickyD410
03-01-2008, 09:46 AM
To start, one of my biggest surprises was Icarus. I liked him much more than I was expecting. For some reason, I remember him being whinier, but he was actually pretty mellow.
Ah. Yeah. He was really chill. He didnt do a whole lot, but I dont remember him being a whiner. Just a really chill guy.
Mercury was certainly... Different. When she addressed Laurie in the Field Day issues, it kind of caught me off guard.
C&C kinda revamped her attitude a bit as well. Well, thats not true, cus she acted very similar in the Hellions mini. But at the Institute, Cessily would front being a bitch to prevent people from getting close so she doesnt get hurt when they leave her. But I guess after M-Day, she just didnt care anymore.
Hated Rockslide. I am reminded why everyone was so baffled as to why they spared him. Tag was pretty lame as well.
Uh, yeah. Duh.
What the hell happened to Hellion? N&C's Hellion was great. Such an entertaining asshole.
He's emo now. Its very sad. I miss Pre-M-Day Hellion.
I forgot just how annoying Prodigy was. Surge was also rather annoying.
Mmmmmmmmmm. Hafta disagree here. I think Surge was a little annoying (with her whole "David! Talk to me!" thing) but overall, I liked Surge more before she was Angry/Emo after M-Day. She was sarcastic, snarky, and fun. And I just always loved David.
I was very surprised to find that I rather liked Wither very early on (before he left after being scared by Moonstar). Then when he came back, I was firmly reminded why it is that I hate him.
Lol, cus he was also emo when he came back! I'm noticing a trend here...
Sofia.... No complaints.
Chyeah. How could there be any?
My opinion on Elixir stands. He rocks.
Honestly... truth time? I hated Elixir. He was the obnoxious jock in school that I hated with a passion. He was arrogant, obnoxious, immature, and a bit of a prick sometimes. I really hated him.
Also, as an aside, Ryan was easily the best artist.
Agreed.

ChristosSoter
03-01-2008, 10:21 AM
I hate C&C's Hellion.

I loved him written by N&C. It's like all the kids went emo after M-day. Which I think was just C&C's excuse to add Anole and Pixie.

Kid Icarus
03-01-2008, 11:17 AM
I hate C&C's Hellion.

I loved him written by N&C. It's like all the kids went emo after M-day. Which I think was just C&C's excuse to add Anole and Pixie.

You don't think almost all of your classmates deaths would affect your emotions?
I am sure I wouldnt be very peppy after that

I miss Ricky, Victor, and Kid Icarus :(

New X-Men aren't as much fun without them :(

I was here all week i promise!
It just felt like nothing new was going on
and It was sad

pryde15
03-01-2008, 11:50 AM
I hate C&C's Hellion.

I loved him written by N&C. It's like all the kids went emo after M-day. Which I think was just C&C's excuse to add Anole and Pixie.

But haven't you said over and over that Hellion is not emo?

Butters
03-01-2008, 11:53 AM
Mmmmmmmmmm. Hafta disagree here. I think Surge was a little annoying (with her whole "David! Talk to me!" thing) but overall, I liked Surge more before she was Angry/Emo after M-Day. She was sarcastic, snarky, and fun. And I just always loved David.


I overgeneralized a bit. Surge was fun at times, but annoying at others. She was certainly better pre-M day, though.

David... there were times that I really liked him, but decisions he made along the way annoyed the hell out of me. By the end, I liked him though.

Honestly... truth time? I hated Elixir. He was the obnoxious jock in school that I hated with a passion. He was arrogant, obnoxious, immature, and a bit of a prick sometimes. I really hated him.

Was he a jerk at times? Yeah. But what I liked about him was that he really grew and matured throughout the series. Also, I really liked his interactions with Moonstar.

Kid Icarus
03-01-2008, 12:11 PM
Previous Issues:
Issue 7 (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=6387492&postcount=355)
Issue 6 (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=6366824&postcount=229)
Issue 5 (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=6358728&postcount=172)
Issue 4 (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=6348290&postcount=49)
Issue 3 (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=6341784&postcount=36)
Issue 2 (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=6328465&postcount=2)
Issue 1 (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=6328376&postcount=1)

NEW MUTANTS V2. #7 (cover (http://image.comicvine.com/uploads/vol/19000/18351/18351-108408-1-new-mutants_400.jpg))
The Ties That Bind Part 2 of 6:
"Parents' Week"
Written by: Nunzio DeFilippis & Christina Weir
Pencils by: Carlo Barberi & Khary Randolph
Edited by: Mike Marts

We see Julian, Josh, Victor and the rock-kid, who is named Santo this issue, (you guys are doing the: we read this as new, not knowing of what's to come in future issues, right?) playing with a frisbee on the school grounds...
Josh and Julian are bitching about their detention (see last issue) and about their advisors Northstar and Moonstar and wanting someone cool, like Miss Frost...
After catching the frisbee with his prehensile tongue, Victor tells them them he plans to stick with Karma, cause he likes her Josh is grossed out by getting Vic's drool on the frisbee and Julian sticks up for Vic, which is kinda sweet and cute...
Santo throws the frisbee way too hard which causes it to go over the fence but Julian stops it on time with his telekinesis, and meets a homeless and apparently smelly girl in front of the gate.
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g55/mrcassandranova/nxm/nm8-3.jpg
The girl talks really fast and asks to be let in in but Jules is being a preppy prick and sends her away... Josh wants to butt in but the girl is gone in a flash, leaving a trail of electricity behind...
Northstar shows up, reminding J&J about their assignments to be helping with the preparations for parents week and all 4 boys run inside...

Scene change to Salem center:
Dani takes Shan to the coffeeshop to which David introduced her the other day... (The Grindstone) She wants Shan to meet Luna, the girl who was hitting on Dani earlier... Shan is kinda offended by the idea and says she just wants coffee...

Xavier's again:
Some parents are walking about at the school and David takes his parents to his room and introduces them to Josh, his roommate... Since Josh his parents are not there (again, see previous issues), David's mom invites him to come along with them on the tour but David's being a bitch and lectural and says no...

Outside:
Laurie meets up with her mom, they hug... Bubblegum (yes I am more of a silent reader on these forums but know that you guys have named the pink guy/gal and love it!!!)hugs someone (surprise surprise) and Sofia meets Davids parents but keeps the conversation short because she sees Derek. The butler, who is also her BFF, LOL tells her he has a surprise and that her dad will arrive tomorrow too...

Julian tells a lie about his parents not wanting to see him so that Northstar feels sorry for him and lets him off the hook for registering duty...
Victor introduces his parents to Shan, his advisor and she tells them Vic is one of her favorite students and that she would like to discuss Vic's 'situation' with them later... And Julian meets up with Vic, and again a very cute and sweet scene between the 2...

The Grindstone again:
David and his parents are having drinks and his dad tells him that Harvard doesn't accept students from Xavier's, so maybe David needs to leave if he wants to attend college...

The next morning:
Sofia meets her dad and discovers he only agreed to meet her just to get Derek back working for him again... (He had left her dad after the Reavers thing). Sofia freaks out and chases her dad and Derek away with her fabulous windpowers. We see Dani watching from the window while Emma Frost walks towards Sofia...
Emma calms Sofia down and tries to lure her into trusting her instead of her current advisor. Dani to the rescue, with Laurie right behind her!
Dani and Emma bicker a little while Laurie comforts Sofia, that they are her family now, cause that's what BFF's do
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g55/mrcassandranova/nxm/nm8-2.jpg

Later, Northstar's office:
Julian tells Northstar he wants Emma Frost to be his advisor now, which Northstar thinks is a mistake, but he says that he will sign the transfer anyway. In the hallway, Miss Frost is waiting for Julian and he asks her if she can take Josh too. She tells him she'd like the challenge, with Josh being a former Reaver and all... Oops, Julian didn't know that... Julian doesn't like!!!

Outside:
David meets Sofia and Laurie who are sitting under a tree, K I S S I N G, oh no, they weren't, I just made that up hehehe...
Josh walks past them , straight towards Julian and Santo and asks him how it went with Frost. Julian spills the beans about Reavers and stuff and him and Santo start to pick on Josh. They are not his buddies anymore.
David and the girls to the rescue and things start to get out of hand...
Untill Vic comes running towards them, tagging along Shan. She stops the fight by taking over the boys' minds and sending them to their rooms...

Sofia and Laurie also walk to their room later where a surprise awaits Sofia. Laurie let derek in there and she leaves them alone to talk... Again, she is such a BFF

Later we see David with his parents again, in front of the school this time and he tells them he's staying at Xavier's, and if that means he can't go to Harvard because of that, then them's the beans... His friends are here and here is where he belongs...
Inside his room, Josh is laying on his (own) bed and when David shows him the detention notice, Josh asks him if David is going to lecture him again...
They reconcile, Josh thanks him for sticking up for him, earlier with the fight with Julian and Santo... And there is the start of their brother-brother relationship I guess...
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g55/mrcassandranova/nxm/nm8-1.jpg

One more time, the Grindstone:
Luna, (the uber cool lesbian chick) notices the lights are blown and mumbles to herself about letting her employers close up shop, and basically suck at it... When taking out the garbage she apparently sees someone in the alley/back or whatever who apparently doesn't look so well and offers her help and food...
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g55/mrcassandranova/nxm/nm8-4.jpg

Review

I believe this was the issue which had to be changed while it was already at the print... The famous never happened suicide issue in which we would have lost Anole if editorial hadn't changed their mind at the very last moment. Which explains the art change somewhere around half of the issue, and not for the better IMO. Ugly art which seems really rushed... That or it is just ugly, you pick...
Anyway, the friendships between the main characters is deepened further in this issue... A bit boring for my taste, but I did like the Anole appearances and Carlo Barberi really draws him supercute!!!
Beside Surge, wee also see Match for the first time here,(and he FLIES!!) although at this time he was just a creation Barberi liked to draw... I remember N&C saying that on a website at that time and that they had no plans for using him or fleshing him out or anything... (Which later apparently changed when they decided to put him in the Paragons squad)

Appearances By

Emma Frost
Danielle Moonstar
Professor X
Jean Paul Beaubier Northstar
Josh Foley Elixir
Shan Coy Mahn (Karma)
Julian Keller (Hellion)
Santo Vaccaro (Rockslide)
Victor Borkowski (Anole)
David Alleyne (Prodigy)
Noriko Ashida (Surge)
Laurie Collins (Wallflower)
Sofia Mantega (Wind Dancer)
Ben Hammil (Match)

Bubblegum
Tatertot
Pixie
Ms. Collins
Anolesque
Some parents

written by Talat
beefed up by Kid Icarus

Kid Icarus
03-01-2008, 02:21 PM
PLUS
some new background characters
who have no background yet!

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g55/mrcassandranova/nxm/nxm8-5.jpg

talat77
03-01-2008, 04:27 PM
YAY! I like your taste in characters :D
Hehehe, thnx... But just for 2 of them eh? No love for my beloved Sooraya?

[QUOTE=Butters;6429679]To start, one of my biggest surprises was Icarus. I liked him much more than I was expecting. For some reason, I remember him being whinier, but he was actually pretty mellow.QUOTE]

Well, I always thought Icarus was just a nice guy who could get along with everyone... If Sofia wasn't already labeled as the heart of the team, Icaruse could have gotten that tag as well... He had scenes/was friends with everyone... Sofia, Laurie, espacially Nori and even with kids from the 'other' squad, Dust... I loved his friendly relationship with Dust...
Elixir even asks him how he does the thing, being liked by everyone in the Yearbook special, I believe...


Oh and Kid Icarus, thanks for spicing up my summary with the pics! :)

RickyD410
03-01-2008, 04:32 PM
Was he a jerk at times? Yeah. But what I liked about him was that he really grew and matured throughout the series. Also, I really liked his interactions with Moonstar.
That's very true. I loved watching his progression throughout the series. And he did interact with Dani really well. I like them together.

La Fea
03-02-2008, 05:10 PM
I just went on an all-nighter and read through all of N&C's run. Fun times. Some of my character opinions changed a bit.

Out of comics boredom (the downtime following a big crossover), I was re-reading random issues but I didn't read them all. My opinions have changed a bit, too.

I particularly was caught off guard by the Northstar issue. I still think it was a bit of a random way to introduce Alpha Squadron (why should we care about these kids--except maybe Victor? I think we should've gotten to know them prior), there was a great scene that referenced the first second issue of New Mutants featuring Sofia and Julian that I never took great notice to before. It brings out the romantic in me a bit. Really cute stuff. :)

My Wither high from re-reading NM was also brought down after reading his return. Is it a consensus that he was annoying in Academy X?

I hate C&C's Hellion.

I loved him written by N&C. It's like all the kids went emo after M-day. Which I think was just C&C's excuse to add Anole and Pixie.

I loved him, too. I liked C&C's version before the bus hit. They did a pretty good shallow jerk who was sensitive but just didn't really think.


NEW MUTANTS V2. #7 (cover (http://image.comicvine.com/uploads/vol/19000/18351/18351-108408-1-new-mutants_400.jpg))
The Ties That Bind Part 2 of 6:
"Parents' Week"
Written by: Nunzio DeFilippis & Christina Weir
Pencils by: Carlo Barberi & Khary Randolph
Edited by: Mike Marts

I liked this issue quite a bit. It was nice to see Sofia, whose been quite solid since she arrived at the school, snap again and let loose. I think it would've been amazing if Emma pursued Sofia to be on her squad (and makes me wish the upcoming Choosing Sides arc was a bit more risky).

PLUS
some new background characters
who have no background yet!

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g55/mrcassandranova/nxm/nxm8-5.jpg

LOL! I love the girl on the left!

Butters
03-02-2008, 05:41 PM
I particularly was caught off guard by the Northstar issue. I still think it was a bit of a random way to introduce Alpha Squadron (why should we care about these kids--except maybe Victor? I think we should've gotten to know them prior), there was a great scene that referenced the first issue of New Mutants featuring Sofia and Julian that I never took great notice to before. It brings out the romantic in me a bit. Really cute stuff. :)

My Wither high from re-reading NM was also brought down after reading his return. Is it a consensus that he was annoying in Academy X?


I liked the Northstar memorial issue. Very well done.

As for Wither, not only was he annoying, he was also a blackmailer and an attempted dragon-killer.

La Fea
03-02-2008, 05:51 PM
I liked the Northstar memorial issue. Very well done.

As for Wither, not only was he annoying, he was also a blackmailer and an attempted dragon-killer.

I think he was a good plot device and it was a good way to divide the New Mutants squad while tying up his story, but I just wish he didn't have one single line.

He was already the dangerous, brooding goth becoming the Laurie obsessed creep pushed him past likability.

ALSO~~we're not there yet in this thread, but I also didn't notice that Nori and David had chemistry from the very beginning. I just saw them as rivals turned lovers, but there was definite igniting sparks in the beginning. I don't totally hate their relationship now, even if it, like so many good things from this series, turned a bit annoying (so he got his heart torn out...and?).

Cosmic Book Fan
03-05-2008, 10:22 PM
Hey y'all, please don't abandon this project, I haven't read any New X, and I'm really enjoying it this way.

Butters
03-05-2008, 10:24 PM
Hey y'all, please don't abandon this project, I haven't read any New X, and I'm really enjoying it this way.

I'd love to contribute, but we have hit the part of the series that is not collected in TPB form. It is sad.

podmark
03-05-2008, 10:26 PM
I reread the first 4 or 5 issues on the weekend. And yeah I loved David just as much as before. Julian comes off a bit more of a jerk.

I liked Laurie more early on than I did later. Josh makes the most radical changes in look and personality throughout the series.
Early Wither was very cool.

Butters
03-05-2008, 10:31 PM
I reread the first 4 or 5 issues on the weekend. And yeah I loved David just as much as before. Julian comes off a bit more of a jerk.

I liked Laurie more early on than I did later. Josh makes the most radical changes in look and personality throughout the series.
Early Wither was very cool.

Yeah, Josh definitely developed the most. Laurie was cool, sadly, she went into "crazy bitch" mode towards the end. And of course, Wither was cool early on, but later became the sniveling creep that annoys the hell out of me.

Kid Icarus
03-05-2008, 10:33 PM
I'm sorry I'm lazy/busy
but I promise to get my ass to work on this
in the near future

La Fea
03-05-2008, 10:39 PM
Does anyone know what issue we're on?

talat77
03-05-2008, 10:43 PM
Does anyone know what issue we're on?

I think #9 is next... Any volunteers? :)

La Fea
03-05-2008, 10:50 PM
I think #9 is next... Any volunteers? :)

I'll do it (tomorrow)! I liked this issue.

Plus, its the first issue after Anolesque's surgery. :)

RickyD410
03-05-2008, 11:53 PM
Hey y'all, please don't abandon this project, I haven't read any New X, and I'm really enjoying it this way.
Hey, I'm glad youre enjoing this! We definitely are, and I'm glad that some other people can learn more about the history of New X-Men. :)
I reread the first 4 or 5 issues on the weekend. And yeah I loved David just as much as before. Julian comes off a bit more of a jerk.

I liked Laurie more early on than I did later. Josh makes the most radical changes in look and personality throughout the series.
Early Wither was very cool.
I dunno, I think Laurie developed the most. Well, thats for just New Mutants and Academy X. If you want the ENTIRE run, then I guess Elixir has developed the most. But right until C&C took over, Laurie changed in every single issue.

Oh, and I go home in about a week and a half. After that, I can get my comic books and start reviewing with everyone! :)

LungerTony
03-06-2008, 12:03 AM
Did anything ever happen to Wither. He met Black Queen(?) and...I don't remember. It was awhile ago. Was it ever resolved or just never touched since then?

Yoshi
03-06-2008, 12:12 AM
Did anything ever happen to Wither. He met Black Queen(?) and...I don't remember. It was awhile ago. Was it ever resolved or just never touched since then?

No nothing has happened with it, but there is speculation that young x-men will use it.

RickyD410
03-06-2008, 12:15 AM
No nothing has happened with it, but there is speculation that young x-men will use it.

I've heard speculation that X-Force will use it. I've never heard anything about YXM. But C&C stated theyre taking one of their long running subplots with them. And Elixir was just confirmed to show up in X-Force, and he's an important player in Wither's history.

Yoshi
03-06-2008, 12:19 AM
I've heard speculation that X-Force will use it. I've never heard anything about YXM. But C&C stated theyre taking one of their long running subplots with them. And Elixir was just confirmed to show up in X-Force, and he's an important player in Wither's history.

Oh that is that one, I knew it was one of the two but I just assumed young x-men because they are dealing with the hellfire club.

Butters
03-06-2008, 12:20 AM
Hey, I'm glad youre enjoing this! We definitely are, and I'm glad that some other people can learn more about the history of New X-Men. :)

I dunno, I think Laurie developed the most. Well, thats for just New Mutants and Academy X. If you want the ENTIRE run, then I guess Elixir has developed the most. But right until C&C took over, Laurie changed in every single issue.

Oh, and I go home in about a week and a half. After that, I can get my comic books and start reviewing with everyone! :)

That is true, Laurie did change quite a bit throughout the series. I didn't like how she was acting towards the end of N&C's run, though. Still, it is a shame that she died.

Butters
03-06-2008, 12:21 AM
Oh that is that one, I knew it was one of the two but I just assumed young x-men because they are dealing with the hellfire club.

They are? I know they are dealing with the Brotherhood, but had not heard about the Hellfire Club.

Yoshi
03-06-2008, 12:24 AM
They are? I know they are dealing with the Brotherhood, but had not heard about the Hellfire Club.

Well isnt that donal pierce in the previews that we have seen?

RickyD410
03-06-2008, 12:58 AM
Well isnt that donal pierce in the previews that we have seen?

Yupyup. That is indeed Donald Pierce. He's gona be an important villain, so we've been told.

podmark
03-06-2008, 02:16 AM
Someone posted a theory that Pierce might actually be a hologram from the Danger Cave (they're in a cave in the preview pics with Pierce, and we know the kids use the Morlock tunnels as their base).

This goes against what we were told in interviews but that could be misdirection. Pierce was said to be the one that kills the Young X-Man.

La Fea
03-06-2008, 11:30 AM
I might not have the time to do the summary today after all so if anyone wants to take it its free!

Sorry guys!

ChristosSoter
03-06-2008, 01:15 PM
You have failed us all, La Fea!!!!!

I kid.

La Fea
03-06-2008, 04:10 PM
You have failed us all, La Fea!!!!!

I kid.

Well excuse me for having a social life!
What social life? I'm going to go to the library and research. ZOMG.

ChristosSoter
03-06-2008, 04:12 PM
It's more than I have. Ok, you win.

La Fea
03-07-2008, 11:06 PM
Previous Issues:
Issue 8 (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=6430586&postcount=598)
Issue 7 (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=6387492&postcount=355)
Issue 6 (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=6366824&postcount=229)
Issue 5 (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=6358728&postcount=172)
Issue 4 (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=6348290&postcount=49)
Issue 3 (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=6341784&postcount=36)
Issue 2 (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=6328465&postcount=2)
Issue 1 (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=6328376&postcount=1)

NEW MUTANTS V2. #9 (cover (http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/7541/newmutants29mp0.jpg))
The Ties That Bind Part 3 of 6:
Written by: Nunzio DeFilippis & Christina Weir
Pencils by: Carlo Barberi
Cover by: Chris Bachalo
Edited by: Mike Marts

Synopsis

News channels are reporting a rumbling from Brotherhood of Evil Mutants member Avalanche. Havok and Nightcrawler are on their way to stop this nefarious fiend, but a mysterious female biker beat them to the kick. In the face.

OWNED, bitch.Havok: "Well, I'll be...long time, no see, kid."At the Institute, Laurie is having sex craving daydreams about Josh in class. Well, not exactly, but she's drifting off in class thinking about that dreamy blonde boy.

Following Josh's reconciliation with the New Mutants Dani's other students, Laurie gets the balls to invite him to sit with them at lunch. Julian has a homoerotic fit and humiliates Josh by TK-ing his butt to the floor.

Sofia has a Claremont moment to avenge her new friend.

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj24/greymalkin_ln/nm9-haha_julian.jpg

She also does this cute blow-the-smoke-from-your-gun type thing, but it looks totally phallic I opted not to post it.

The kids have heard about one of the old New Mutants returning. With the only one unaccounted for being that handsome redhead Wolfsbane, Josh thinks nothing of it until her ripped jean ass shows up, much to the excitement of Dani and Shan.

She certainly changed and Laurie's enthusiasm turns sour (*psst I think she's jealous of her boots*).

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj24/greymalkin_ln/nm9-rahne_new.jpg

Rahne's taken a different outlook on life, but her eyes definitely indicate something deeper is happening here (probably much to do with losing her foster mother Dr. Moira MacTaggert and the loss of her powers from Forge's neutralizing gun thing). She's ditched the boyish locks, the timid nature, and even her accent.Rahne Sinclair: "...you "dinnae 'spect" me to talk like a "wee lass" my whole life, did you?"The kids take Josh for the first time to the Grind Stone. On their way there, while he's complaining, he recognizes the homeless girl from last issue that Julian turned away from the mansion. She looks hopeless and depressed sitting on the edge of the sidewalk.

The kids enter the Grind Stone and ask for Luna and the kids learn there had been an accident.

They run to Dani and Shan who are still catching up on old times with Rahne. Josh connects the dots and the kids really want to do something about it. Dani tells them they've been in enough trouble already and that they should let the adults handle it.

Josh fiddles around in his room while David studies when Rahne shows up at their door, ready for some adventure. To get more fire power, they decide to bring along the girls. Like they had a choice.

When Laurie sees Rahne is the orchestrator, she doesn't take it too well.

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj24/greymalkin_ln/nm-9_ohlaurie.jpg

Sofia whoooshes Laurie's pheromones away before they can do any harm.

The kids encounter a bum who tells them about the girl named Surge. He directs them to a drug dealer named Click who might know where she is.

All of a sudden, David picks up Japanese through his powers. They find their target and Josh tells them to take the pills away from her or she might "explode" again. Sofia knocks the pills out of her hand and the young Japanese girl emits a burst of electricity.

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj24/greymalkin_ln/nm-9_ohnoes.jpg

Review

The weirdest part of this issue was with Rahne Sinclair. Her transformation made full sense, but it was really quite drastic and the core of her character wasn't really there.

I already know all of these characters, but I'm starting to agree with early nay sayers that this book was overloaded with characters. I am lucky to be such a nerd to keep up with who is "Shan", "Dani", "David", "Sofia", "Scooby", and the rest of the gang, but I can see where this would be a problem for newer readers.

Otherwise, I enjoyed the story. It was nice to see the kids be a little rebellious and on their own, despite editorial's adamant opposition. The group dynamics were overshadowed by Rahne's return, which is a shame with so many bright new faces in a new title like this one.

Appearances By

Avalanche
Wolfsbane (Rahne Sinclair)

Sofia Mantega (Wind Dancer)
Laurie Collins (Wallflower)
Joshua Foley (Elixir)
David Alleyne (Prodigy)
Noriko Ashida (Surge)
Danielle Moonstar

Xi'an "Shan" Coy Manh (Karma)

Julian Keller (Hellion)
Santo Vaccarro (Rockslide)
Cessily Kincaid (Mercury)

Archangel

Havok
Nightcrawler

Click

CBR's Background characters:

Bubblegum (Carla)
Melody Guthrie (Aero)
Longneck
Forearm
Anolesque (post-op)
Bubble Boy

Reference:

UncannyX-Men.net's YEARBOOK of the Students at Xavier's (http://uncannyxmen.net/db/article/showquestion.asp?faq=4&fldAuto=229&page=6)

Report Card (posters grading on an A through F grading system)
La Fea: B

RickyD410
03-07-2008, 11:10 PM
Nice review/summary La Fea!

La Fea
03-07-2008, 11:18 PM
Nice review/summary La Fea!

Thanks! I've been wanting to get this review done for the longest to keep the ball rolling. :)

Butters
03-08-2008, 12:14 AM
Great job, La Fea!

Issue 12 is the last issue titled "New Mutants" right? Because after the name change, I can start adding summaries.

Mr. Eymed
03-08-2008, 12:20 AM
Great job, La Fea!

Issue 12 is the last issue titled "New Mutants" right? Because after the name change, I can start adding summaries.

Issue 13, actually, though our kids weren't the main focus in that one.

ChristosSoter
03-08-2008, 10:12 AM
All right, La Fea!!!!

You didn't fail us after all!!!!

RickyD410
03-19-2008, 01:27 PM
I just wanna say, that I was searching for this thread, and I thought I saw it, so I clicked on it, but it turns out that it was the New X-Men DISCUSSION thread, and I didnt realize it until going through about 20, 25 pages thinking "wow, alot of discussion has gone on since I was gone! Where are the reviews??" and now I feel retarded.

Anyhoo, I'll do #10 a little later.

ChristosSoter
03-19-2008, 01:32 PM
I just wanna say, that I was searching for this thread, and I thought I saw it, so I clicked on it, but it turns out that it was the New X-Men DISCUSSION thread, and I didnt realize it until going through about 20, 25 pages thinking "wow, alot of discussion has gone on since I was gone! Where are the reviews??" and now I feel retarded.

Anyhoo, I'll do #10 a little later.
Good! I would submit summerys, but I can't. I love this thread.

La Fea
03-19-2008, 01:38 PM
I just wanna say, that I was searching for this thread, and I thought I saw it, so I clicked on it, but it turns out that it was the New X-Men DISCUSSION thread, and I didnt realize it until going through about 20, 25 pages thinking "wow, alot of discussion has gone on since I was gone! Where are the reviews??" and now I feel retarded.

Anyhoo, I'll do #10 a little later.

Yay! Resurrection!

Butters
03-19-2008, 03:54 PM
I just wanna say, that I was searching for this thread, and I thought I saw it, so I clicked on it, but it turns out that it was the New X-Men DISCUSSION thread, and I didnt realize it until going through about 20, 25 pages thinking "wow, alot of discussion has gone on since I was gone! Where are the reviews??" and now I feel retarded.

Anyhoo, I'll do #10 a little later.

Cool. Glad to hear it.

greenshoes713
03-19-2008, 05:18 PM
finally im glad ya'll are back

RickyD410
03-19-2008, 06:05 PM
Previous Issues:
Issue 9 (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=6478261&postcount=627)
Issue 8 (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=6430586&postcount=598)
Issue 7 (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=6387492&postcount=355)
Issue 6 (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=6366824&postcount=229)
Issue 5 (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=6358728&postcount=172)
Issue 4 (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=6348290&postcount=49)
Issue 3 (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=6341784&postcount=36)
Issue 2 (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=6328465&postcount=2)
Issue 1 (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=6328376&postcount=1)

NEW MUTANTS V2. #10
http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0310/27/newmutants10.jpg
The Ties That Bind Part 4 of 6:
Written by: Nunzio DeFilippis & Christina Weir
Pencils by: Carlo Barberi
Cover by: Chris Bachalo
Edited by: Mike Marts

Synopsis

The future Hellions have their first group meeting with Emma Frost who has decided to take them in and teach them how to be pornographic S&M models. Seriously, she's wearing thigh high boots, hot pants, a choker necklace, weirdly shaped nipple covers, and sleeves (but no shirt).

Anyhoo, the kids pick their codenames, and Julian expresses interest in being a super villain. Tag decideds that Emma Frost's french pastries are better than Iceman's pizza. Detective Paul Smecker says: What a fag.

Meanwhile, the future New Mutants and the former Wolfsbane are out in town, getting the crap knocked outa them by Surge. David saves the day, and Josh expresses his lack of undying love for Laurie. They all head back to the school.

In the Med Lab, Surge calls Beast "furball". She's so snarky! Turns out those pills were controlling Surge's powers. She just wants the drugs again, but Beast and David give her the afterschool special schpeal just as Dani shows up. BUSTED. The kids broke curfew, put themselves in danger, and explicitely disobeyed Dani's wishes. Detention for a week! She turns on Rahne, but new badass Rahne just walks away

Rahne: "You know what? You're not my advisor, you can't lecture me. I'm going to get some sleep."

What a bitch!

Anyhoo, Josh finds the whole ordeal pretty funny, cus he was on detention anyway. David however, does NOT. He's pissed that Josh put everyone in danger, and doesnt believe that Josh really changed since coming to Xavier's. He realized Josh just follows whoever is "cool" at the time. Whether its Duncan and his Reaver friends, or Julian and his clique. Josh will do whatever it takes to be cool. Bedridden Nori is shocked to see David so harsh on Josh, and doesnt like it so much...

Quick scene where Dani and Josh express their undying hatred for each other, and then its off to the hospital to visit everyone's favorite lesbian coffee grinder!

Afterwards, Rahne tries to get Cyclops to hire her as a teacher, but everyone knows thats a disatrous idea, so he says no, and she decides to check out. Dani tries to stop her, but Rahne is angsty and badass, so she zooms away on her cool motor bike anyway. Josh watches longingly...

...and then sneaks away to Harry's Hideaway to flirt with Rahne, who threatened to rip off Harry's genetilia.

Meanwhile, we get a page of everyone's favorite background muties! We see Karma, Anole, and Match in French class. Vic even gets a line this issue!

Karma: "Hey, does anyone know where Josh is?"
Victor: "Nope, haven't seen him all day."

And what a surprise, Bubblegum is hugging someone! She's so sweet. Also, Cloud 9?? Wow, didnt know she was in this book.

Anyhoo, things start heating up at Harry's Hideaway when Josh reveals his powers of mutant intutition, as he explains why Rahne is now acting the way she does. Hormones! She has "feelings" and "urges" and she cant blame the "wolf inside her" anymore. So she freaked. But Rahne still says she doesnt want her powers back...

Nori gets her first set of gauntlets, and they're pretty tiny. Its interesting to see how each artist draws their own set. Anyhoo, David tries to show Nori around the school, but she kind of hates him because she thinks he's judgemental. She also hates Julian for being a dickwad to her when she needed help. She kinda just hates everyone. Say, maybe C&C DIDNT turn her into an angst ridden teen-- she was always this way I guess.

So finally, Josh and Rahne ride home together, she admits she wants her powers back, they make out, Josh gives her the wolf back, and she thanks him by ripping his guts out on Xavier's front steps.


Review

So this is the beginning of the infamous Wolfsbane/Elixir romance. It seems weird to most people because the characters are so different, but this issue did a good job of showing that Rahne isnt the same as the other original New Mutants. She's much younger (only 19 in this ish. David and Nori are 17, and Josh is 16), and she is still going through all the problems that these kids are going through. Josh is the only one who "gets" her right now. So I think it works in this story, but I'm still happy with the two of them apart.

David is pretty "afterschool special" in this ish: He talks about how drugs are bad, and lectures Josh... again. But he was also pretty badass in the beginning. He moved faster than lightning (literally) and dove to knock Sofia out of the way of Surge's blast. He was then the only one who could get close to her while she was going crazy, and carried her all the way home himself. I think this ish does a really good job of showing how David acts the way he is because he views himself as "the responsible one". Every group has one, and David is the one here. He takes it upon himself to save everyone, teach Josh why he's an idiot, and try and help Nori fit in after she arrives.

The Luna scene wasnt realy necessary, but I think N&C still wanted her to get together with Shan at this point, so it could have been worth it, if we got a hot lesbian make out scene down the line. Too bad we didnt...

Overall, I liked this ish. But like the last ish, there are alot of characters. The arc is coming to a close, and if I didnt already know the ending, I would really want to know whats going to come next!

Appearances By

Sofia Mantega (Wind Dancer)
Laurie Collins (Wallflower)
Joshua Foley (Elixir)
David Alleyne (Prodigy)
Noriko Ashida (Surge)
Danielle Moonstar

Xi'an "Shan" Coy Manh (Karma)
Wolfsbane (Rahne Sinclair)

Julian Keller (Hellion)
Santo Vaccarro (Rockslide)
Cessily Kincaid (Mercury)
Dallas Gibson (Specter)'s first appearance!
Brian Cruz (Tag)'s first appearance!

Ben Hammil (Match)
Victor Borkowski (Anole)

Emma Frost
Scott Summers (Cyclops)
Hank McCoy (Beast)
Nurse Annie Gazachadliasdg;hfdsg;iasdfghjedurehadnvadsfstan

Lesbian Luna
Harry (from Harry's Hideaway)

CBR's Background characters:

Bubblegum (Carla)
Cloud 9

Report Card (posters grading on an A through F grading system)
RickyD410: A-

Butters
03-19-2008, 06:21 PM
A girl that looks like Cloud 9 was in there? Interesting.

Very good job.

Kid Icarus
03-19-2008, 11:13 PM
This issue was the third comic book that I ever bought in my life
(after Nocturne's Tale part 1 and 2)
So it has a special plave in my heart forever.
I really loved the Bachalo cover
but I need to reread it before I give any other opinions

RickyD410
03-19-2008, 11:18 PM
A girl that looks like Cloud 9 was in there? Interesting.

Very good job.

Lol, yeah. There was a girl with blonde hair floating along down the hallway on a flying cloud.

talat77
03-19-2008, 11:38 PM
She was also seen in issue 8, but with black hair :) I think it was a creation of Carlo Barberi, trying to create his own recognizable backgrounders...

About the issue:
Seeing Victor absent from Emma's progenies, confirms Vic's distancing himself from their thight-knit group after they kicked out Josh...
After the fight during parents day, Vic was also absent at their table during lunch last issue and now in this one we learn he decided to stick with karma instead of switching to Emma with the rest...
(And in later issues, we see him still close with Josh, like shooting balls in either #3 or 4 after the title change and also giving Josh advice about using the Cuckoos for info during mercury Falling/Rising)

RickyD410
03-19-2008, 11:52 PM
About the issue:
Seeing Victor absent from Emma's progenies, confirms Vic's distancing himself from their thight-knit group after they kicked out Josh...
After the fight during parents day, Vic was also absent at their table during lunch last issue and now in this one we learn he decided to stick with karma instead of switching to Emma with the rest...
(And in later issues, we see him still close with Josh, like shooting balls in either #3 or 4 after the title change and also giving Josh advice about using the Cuckoos for info during mercury Falling/Rising)

This is all very true, but in issue #13 of New Mutants, all the kids are at the local X-Corp building (I think) because Magneto destroyed the school. And Vic is shown staying with Julian, Cessily, and Santo. I think Vic is just keeping his ties with all his friends without sacrificing what he wants as a student. His friends are all switching to Frost? So what? He likes Karma, so he's sticking it out. Julian and the gang hate Josh? So what? Vic likes Josh, and he will play basket ball with him from time to time! But that doesnt mean he isnt friends with Julian and co.

Butters
03-19-2008, 11:58 PM
This is all very true, but in issue #13 of New Mutants, all the kids are at the local X-Corp building (I think) because Magneto destroyed the school. And Vic is shown staying with Julian, Cessily, and Santo. I think Vic is just keeping his ties with all his friends without sacrificing what he wants as a student. His friends are all switching to Frost? So what? He likes Karma, so he's sticking it out. Julian and the gang hate Josh? So what? Vic likes Josh, and he will play basket ball with him from time to time! But that doesnt mean he isnt friends with Julian and co.

Exactly. Which makes him different from someone like Rockslide, who is just Hellion's sheep.

talat77
03-20-2008, 12:16 AM
Absolutely, he is still friends with them, but I meant he is not into to bullying or singling someone out kind of thing...
Shows just how awesome he already was before C&C shone the light on him :) (and gave him a huge arm to go with it)

timbox
03-20-2008, 04:31 AM
NEW MUTANTS V2. #10


Good write up. This has been my favorite issue so far. Nice catch on Nori's attitude, maybe she always has been that way, I still like her though.

RickyD410
03-20-2008, 11:03 AM
Good write up. This has been my favorite issue so far. Nice catch on Nori's attitude, maybe she always has been that way, I still like her though.

Thanks. But oh yeah, I still love Nori too.

Anyhoo, next issue is the one that compares Laurie and Rahne. Its one of my favorite issues of the run. Does anyone want to do it? I think it might be kinda difficult to summarize, just cus of the way its written. You'd hafta read it to get its full effect. I'll do it if no one else wants to.

Butters
03-20-2008, 11:42 AM
Thanks. But oh yeah, I still love Nori too.

Anyhoo, next issue is the one that compares Laurie and Rahne. Its one of my favorite issues of the run. Does anyone want to do it? I think it might be kinda difficult to summarize, just cus of the way its written. You'd hafta read it to get its full effect. I'll do it if no one else wants to.

I can't do it, so I would like it if you did. I have actually been looking forward to this issue. I was never able to read most of the later New Mutants issues.

I don't want the thread to go into limbo, so I want these next three to get reviewed as soon as possible, and then I can take the reins for a little while.

RickyD410
03-20-2008, 02:06 PM
OK then. I'll do my best with it. It might be really long though...

RickyD410
03-20-2008, 03:04 PM
Previous Issues:
Issue 10 (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=6540892&postcount=638)
Issue 9 (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=6478261&postcount=627)
Issue 8 (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=6430586&postcount=598)
Issue 7 (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=6387492&postcount=355)
Issue 6 (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=6366824&postcount=229)
Issue 5 (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=6358728&postcount=172)
Issue 4 (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=6348290&postcount=49)
Issue 3 (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=6341784&postcount=36)
Issue 2 (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=6328465&postcount=2)
Issue 1 (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=6328376&postcount=1)

NEW MUTANTS V2. #11
Cover (http://www.marvel.com/comics/onsale/lib/view2.htm?filename=/comics/onsale/covers/NMUT011COVER_400.jpg)
The Ties That Bind Part 5 of 6:
Written by: Nunzio DeFilippis & Christina Weir
Pencils by: Carlo Barberi
Cover by: Chris Bachalo
Edited by: Mike Marts

Foreword: This issue compares Rahne Sinclair and Laurie Collins side by side. We go through all of Rahne's history (I think) and learn Laurie's origin. Every page or so it switches from Rahne's story to Laurie's story. Alot of the narration is similar in each story, which really makes this ish stronger, so it'll be difficult to convey all the strong aspects of this story, but I'll do the best I can.

Synopsis

Present: We start off in Laurie and Sofia's room. They hear Rahne come back with Josh, but its after curfew, AND they're on detention, AND Josh blew off his classes that day, so they know Josh'll get in even more trouble if he's caught. Laurie decides to help him sneak in.

Past: Laurie's father had the same powers that she has. He used his powers to gain status in the world, and rape women without them even knowing it was rape (cus they thought they wanted him at the time). Eventually he wanted Gail Collins. But after she became pregnant with Laurie, his powers stopped working on her, so she found out the truth and left.

Present: Laurie gets downstairs to find that Rahne has disemboweled Josh.

Past: Rahne's father also influenced people, but through the Church. But he was also an evil man, and participated in many sins himself... including lust. One day a "lady of the night" became pregnant with his child, so after the lady died, he took the baby in as a ward of the Church. Rahne basically became cinderella, and lived with Reverand Craig as he beat religion into her, and taught her to be ashamed of herself.

Gail raised Laurie by herself, but worked long hours and multiple jobs to make enough money to support them, so Laurie didnt see her very much. Laurie found ways to entertain herself, such as puzzles and crosswords. She never reached out to people because she could see that her mother had been hurt before (very powerful panel of Laurie listening at her mother's bedroom door as Gail sits up at night crying).

When Rahne turned 14, she transformed into a wolf for the first time... and she loved it.

When Laurie turned 13, her pheromone powers activiated for the first time. She was popular, all the kids at the beach loved her... and she loved it.

But the reverand saw her transform, and told her she was evil. He tried to kill her.

Laurie's mother immediately understood what happened, and taught Laurie never to use her powers, because its not fair to control other people's feelings and emotions. Laurie withdrew even more from those around her. Unfortunately, that didnt work (flashback to the scene at the beginning of issue #2, where we see a school freak out because of Laurie's fear pheromones).

"Salvation came to Rahne in the form of a mother."

Dr. Moira MacTaggert sent Rahne to a special school where she met other mutants, and made friends.

"The solution to Laurie's problem came from her mother."

Gail sent Laurie to a special school where she met other mutants... but she didnt make any friends.

Rahne grew up with the New Mutants, but was still a shy girl who feared her feelings. She still feared the wolf inside her, and suffered alot (shot of Doug's grave).

Laurie didnt make any friends at Xavier's, and none of her roommates worked out. Angel Salvatore was affected by Laurie's pheromone powers. Cessily Kincaid was immune to those powers, but still didnt bond with Laurie.

Then, Rahne's worst nightmare came true: she was transformed permanantly into a beast. She felt all her emotions stronger than ever, and couldnt control any of them. Her powers terrified her.

Then, Laurie's worst nightmare came true: she also saw how terrifying her powers could be. There was a riot at Xavier's, where students attacked human visitors. Laurie hid in her room, but felt many emotions such as fear, anger, and panic. She wondered, was SHE causing the riot outdoors? Was that how powerful she was? Her powers terrified her.

Eventualy, Rahne regained control of her powers, and even confronted her father once and for all. But then a villain took away her powers. She was free of the wolf inside her forever... but it left her powerless to save her mother as the villain killed her.

Eventually, Laurie made a friend who refused to walk away. Through Sofia, she met David and Kevin, and was happy for the first time. But then a villain attacked her new friends. Laurie used her powers willingly for the first time ever, and she scared away the villains. But she also scared her friends, who could not help her when the villain killed her.

After her mother died, Rahne wandered around, confused, upset, and hurt. She came back to visit her friends, but she was changed. She angered her friends, and felt urges that she couldnt blame on the wolf.

"She was all but lost. Until she met Josh."

He gave her the wolf back, and she attacked him for it.

Laurie was stabbed through the heart.

"She was all but dead. Until she met Josh."

Josh healed Laurie, and she fell in love. Unfortunately, Josh was interested in someone else. Someone who just attacked him...

Present: Laurie uses her powers correctly to scare away Rahne. She runs off, and Laurie kneels by Josh's side, who just passed out...

Review

Honestly, I did NOT do this ish justice with a summary. It needs to be read. It was beautifully written, and really powerful at some points. The narration was excellent, and the art was great too. There wasnt much dialogue, and most of the story is in flashbacks, but it was so interesting to learn Laurie's origins in comparison to Rahne's. This is also a great ish that sums up Rahne's history as well.

Even though my summary is probably a bit confusing, the issue itself is so organic in the way Rahne's story blends into Laurie's. Its really great at the end where both stories meet each other and blend straight into the present.

And the cover was badass! Too bad Surge didnt even appear in the story... But the covers were all decided upon before Marvel pulled the crazy story switch, so each cover is supposed to match up with a story from the previous issue.

Appearances By

Sofia Mantega (Wind Dancer)
Laurie Collins (Wallflower)
Joshua Foley (Elixir)
David Alleyne (Prodigy)
Kevin Ford (Wither)

Danille Moonstar (Mirage)
Xi'an "Shan" Coy Manh (Karma)
Wolfsbane (Rahne Sinclair)
Amara Aquilla (Magma)
Sam Guthrie (Cannonball)
Roberto Dacosta (Sunspot)
Illyana Rasputin (Magik)
Doug Ramsey (Cypher)

Angel Salvatore (Tempest)
Cessily Kincaid (Mercury)

Professor Charles Xavier
Alex Summers (Havok)
Lorna Dane (Polaris)
Raven Darkholm (Mystique)
Donald Pierce
Reavers

Gail Collins
Laurie's father (who is unnamed in this ish, but hardcore fans know he is Sean Garrison)
Reverand Craig
Harry (from Harry's Hideaway)

Report Card (posters grading on an A through F grading system)
RickyD410: A+

La Fea
03-20-2008, 03:10 PM
Lol, yeah. There was a girl with blonde hair floating along down the hallway on a flying cloud.

LOL yeah, she appeared quite often. It'd be hilarious if its the same character. I don't know much about the Initiative recruits, but is it possible any of them are mutants?

Great back-to-back reviews, Ricky!

I really enjoyed issue 11. The new Rahne didn't really gel with me, but this story helped ease some of that discomfort. I really liked Laurie during this series so it was really nice to see some of her life and its parallels to her rival for Josh's affections.

podmark
03-20-2008, 03:45 PM
I really enjoyed issue 11. The new Rahne didn't really gel with me, but this story helped ease some of that discomfort. I really liked Laurie during this series so it was really nice to see some of her life and its parallels to her rival for Josh's affections.


I don't think they've ever said the source of Cloud9's powers. Most of the rest have though.

timbox
03-20-2008, 04:28 PM
Wow I don't remember #11 at all. I must have never read that one. Sounds good though!

Brett P
03-20-2008, 06:12 PM
I don't think they've ever said the source of Cloud9's powers. Most of the rest have though.

They said it was possibly alien in nature.

Great summaries of the issues so far guys! I can't imagine how long they must take you.

I found #11 cool but I'm glad I got the entire run as 13 was coming out, just before Academy X started as it was pretty annoying that at the end of #11 we were still in the same place story wise as the end of #10 and if it had been my only issue for a month I'd have been pretty annoyed!

RickyD410
03-20-2008, 09:59 PM
I found #11 cool but I'm glad I got the entire run as 13 was coming out, just before Academy X started as it was pretty annoying that at the end of #11 we were still in the same place story wise as the end of #10 and if it had been my only issue for a month I'd have been pretty annoyed!

See, I thought that too at one point, but I loved the story so much, I felt like it had to be told, and any less than a whole issue wouldnt do it justice. It was great enough that I think it works as a whole issue, and is worth sacrificing a bit of story progression for its sake.

RickyD410
03-22-2008, 12:13 AM
Anyone wanna do 12 or 13? I'll do both of them if you guys want. Then more people can start reviewing, cus I think more people have Academy X.

Pach!
03-22-2008, 12:29 AM
Go for it Ricky once we hit Academy X, I'll do a lot more. :)

La Fea
03-22-2008, 01:13 AM
Yeah, that'll be awesome Ricky! Plus, I love those issues!

Butters
03-22-2008, 10:24 AM
Anyone wanna do 12 or 13? I'll do both of them if you guys want. Then more people can start reviewing, cus I think more people have Academy X.

Awesome. Go for it.

RickyD410
03-22-2008, 10:38 AM
Previous Issues:
Issue 11 (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=6545632&postcount=650)
Issue 10 (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=6540892&postcount=638)
Issue 9 (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=6478261&postcount=627)
Issue 8 (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=6430586&postcount=598)
Issue 7 (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=6387492&postcount=355)
Issue 6 (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=6366824&postcount=229)
Issue 5 (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=6358728&postcount=172)
Issue 4 (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=6348290&postcount=49)
Issue 3 (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=6341784&postcount=36)
Issue 2 (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=6328465&postcount=2)
Issue 1 (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=6328376&postcount=1)

NEW MUTANTS V2. #12
http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/thumb/4/40/New_Mutants_Vol_2_12_Textless.jpg/200px-New_Mutants_Vol_2_12_Textless.jpg
The Ties That Bind Part 6 of 6: :One of Us"
Written by: Nunzio DeFilippis & Christina Weir
Pencils by: Khary Randolph
Cover by: Randy Green
Edited by: Mike Marts


Synopsis

Josh is being rushed on a gourney to the Med Lab, being pushed by Dani, Karma, Laurie, Beast, and Nurse Annie. Annie doesnt want to believe Laurie when she says that it was Rahne who did this, but Karma raises the question of whether Josh would even be able to give Rahne her powers back. Beast then reveals that Josh is an Omega Level mutant, who can manipulate the body's functions on a genetic level. So yes, he's powerful enough to do that.

Laurie is not allowed inside the Med Lab once they arrive. She is freaking out because they're calling for Warren, and any other mutant healer they can find: medicine wont work here...

Dani suddenly realizes that she knows where Rahne is. With the return of Rahne's powers, Dani's telepathic link with her returns as well! Dani rushes off to talk to Rahne.

After Dani leaves, David, Sofia, and Noriko arrive. David and Sofia do theyre best to comfort Laurie, and Karma invites everyone inside to sit by Josh's side. Nori refuses to go in though, because David is there. Sofia speaks with Nori about Josh's condition, and how she's a bitch for not caring, even though Josh was the one who led everyone to find Nori. Noriko says its not about Josh, but David. David pretended to be Nori's friend, even though he judged her for using pills to control her powers. And now he's pretending to care about Josh, even though he judges Josh for everything he does as well.

Sofia then shows us why we love her in this scene, where she gives Nori a stern talkin' to.

Sofia: "Maybe this school is not the place for you. You obviously prefer life on your own, with no one to care for you or prevent you from making mistakes. You won't get that here at Xavier's. Here, we are a family. We take care of one another. We protect one another. And yes, we criticize one another. It is your choice whether or not you wish to be a part of this family."

In the Med Room, Laurie runs away in tears, because she knows Josh will die. Sofia runs after her. With just David and an unconscious Josh in the room now, Nori walks in. She and David talk, and David explains his relationship with Josh. Nori realizes David is just being the responsible one again. He acts like an older brother should act. Nori explains about her family and how she ran away.

Dani goes to the Salem Center Slums, to the area where they found Noriko. Rahne is harassing a homeless man, and then takes his spot! Dani shows up, and Rahne attacks her as well. Dani then beats the crap outa Rahne, and they have a little chat. Rahne doesnt think she can control the wolf anymore, but Dani knows better, and she doesnt need a telepathic link to tell her that. Rahne finally transforms back to her human form, and the two walk home.

Back at school, Laurie explains how she finally chose to use her powers and had some control over it. Sofia is happy for her, but over hear some bad news... Warren cant come back for another hour, but by then Josh will be dead. David and Nori think up a plan. They realized they dont need Warren, Josh is a healer too! They just need to wake him up. David is picking up all of Annie's and Beast's medical knowledge, so he knows what meds Josh is on, and how to undo the IV and everything else. They plan on taking Josh off his meds, and having Surge shock him awake.

Beast tries to stop them, but as usual, David is right. Nori shocks Josh awake, and he moans in agony, cus he's got a huge hole in his body. Laurie grabs his hand and places it on his chest. David offers some encouraging words.

David: "Don't leave us now, buddy...we were just starting to like you."

There's a blinding flash of light, and Josh wakes up... golden! He doesnt know why everyone's staring at him. Or why he's crying... and feels all goofy and happy (but that's Laurie's fault). This is when Nori quietly slips away... she doesnt do "kodak moments". Josh will have to get used to this new look, but the group is just happy that he's alive right now. He and Laurie hold hands and share a tender moment as he thanks her for saving his life.

Just then, Dani and Rahne walk in, and Josh forgets all about Laurie for the moment. He tries to mack on Rahne again, and calls himself "the man" for bringing her powers back. Rahne storms out, Dani rolls her eyes, and Josh is just confused.

David: "We definitely need to work on your people skills."

Later that evening, Dani comes back to talk to Josh alone. He apologizes for being such a hassal, and suggests that she let him switch to another advisor. But Dani wont have that. She explains that now, she is officially Josh's legal guardian. So if she's tough on him, its because thats how parents are supposed to act.

The next day, Dani and Nori walk down to The Grindstone to apologize to Luna. Surge explains what happened, and then asked to pay of her debt to Luna by working at the Grindstone. Just then, the group walks in and orders some drinks. Luna prepares them, and Nori delivers them to the laughing group at a table by the window.

This looks like the beginning of a beauuuutiful friendship.

Review

Lovely ish. Lots of character development. We really get how David's mind works, and his relationship with Josh solidifies. Nori begins to join the group in this ish, and we really see how amazing Sofia is. Rahne and Dani strengthen their bonds again as well. In the end, its a "feel good" issue, and it completely works.

The art was alright. Randolph isnt as nice at Baberi, but it still works. The action scene was kinda generic, but he shows emotion well.

Everything is tied up nice and pretty. A very good ending to the arc.

Appearances By

Sofia Mantega (Wind Dancer)
Laurie Collins (Wallflower)
Joshua Foley (Elixir)
David Alleyne (Prodigy)
Noriko Ashida (Surge)

Danille Moonstar (Mirage)
Xi'an "Shan" Coy Manh (Karma)
Wolfsbane (Rahne Sinclair)

Nurse Annie Gazahadasldkfads;gfharweruha;ha;dsfhadfustan
Dr. Hank McCoy (Beast)

Luna DePaula
Homeless Man

Report Card (posters grading on an A through F grading system)
RickyD410: A-

Butters
03-22-2008, 11:01 AM
Very good issue for Josh, David, and Sofia. Lots of great moments. Awesome.

La Fea
03-22-2008, 11:05 AM
Very good issue for Josh, David, and Sofia. Lots of great moments. Awesome.

Yeah, Nori angsted her way up from the very beginning, but I liked the point she brought up about David/Josh.

And Nori was kinda cute before the blue hair!

RickyD410
03-22-2008, 11:52 PM
Previous Issues:
Issue 12 (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=6555261&postcount=660)
Issue 11 (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=6545632&postcount=650)
Issue 10 (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=6540892&postcount=638)
Issue 9 (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=6478261&postcount=627)
Issue 8 (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=6430586&postcount=598)
Issue 7 (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=6387492&postcount=355)
Issue 6 (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=6366824&postcount=229)
Issue 5 (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=6358728&postcount=172)
Issue 4 (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=6348290&postcount=49)
Issue 3 (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=6341784&postcount=36)
Issue 2 (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=6328465&postcount=2)
Issue 1 (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=6328376&postcount=1)

NEW MUTANTS V2. #13
http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0401/28/ne