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long live jean grey
02-12-2008, 12:11 PM
Just wondering what evryone else thinks of Scott/Emma.

Christopher O
02-12-2008, 12:12 PM
All things considered, I think it's very believable and very interesting. Scott and Jean were never this dynamic.

*predicts a small flame war and then thread closure*

Fatguy
02-12-2008, 12:13 PM
Yeah, it's believable. Emma is hot. Scott likes hot chicks, he was always ogling Psylocke too.

He loves the ladies.

long live jean grey
02-12-2008, 12:14 PM
All things considered, I think it's very believable and very interesting. Scott and Jean were never this dynamic.

From what I hear, the relationship is actually pretty sappy, not so different from Scott/Jean.

Pach!
02-12-2008, 12:14 PM
It is very believable.

long live jean grey
02-12-2008, 12:15 PM
Yeah, it's believable. Emma is hot. Scott likes hot chicks, he was always ogling Psylocke too.

He loves the ladies.


Lol. Cyclops is a pimp. :D :D

claimtosubclaim
02-12-2008, 12:17 PM
It's a bizarre give-and-take relationship, which makes it interesting. They're not the most healthy couple, but I think Scott would be worse off single. We've seen that he needs a woman by his side to keep him grounded, otherwise he'll just run away from the X-Men again like all those times in the past.

jarrod
02-12-2008, 12:19 PM
It's unrealistic, but then so was Scott and Jean.

Can't wait to see what Ellis does with it though. <3 <3

Tobias March
02-12-2008, 12:20 PM
It's honestly preferable. I still can't get over that strange clinch Jean and Logan got into in Uncanny X-Men when Joe Casey took over ....and then Wolverine walks away from her 'because we would never work'.

Da fug?

frog
02-12-2008, 12:21 PM
Yes, it's believable. Scott strikes me as the type of person that has to be in a relationship. It's not necessarily the healthiest of relationships but I don't think he's the type to be happy alone. As for Emma, he validates her standing and satisfies her drive for power and control, and yes, she probably does care for him too.

CaptainMarvel
02-12-2008, 12:24 PM
Just wondering what evryone else thinks of Scott/Emma.

Can't stand it, myself.

but I think Scott would be worse off single.

I think he'd be perfectly fine single, and would prefer it.

We've seen that he needs a woman by his side to keep him grounded, otherwise he'll just run away from the X-Men again like all those times in the past.

It isn't a woman that keeps him on the X-Men. It's his grief that drives him away. Once the grief over Jeans loss has lessened, he can function just fine as an X-Man.

long live jean grey
02-12-2008, 12:26 PM
I just think it's weird that his wife dies and all-of-a sudden he loves Emma. After what was just a quickie to make Scott feel better.

jester1436
02-12-2008, 12:27 PM
It's not as believable as Cyclops/Pixie will be. <3

CaptainMarvel
02-12-2008, 12:28 PM
I just think it's weird that his wife dies and all-of-a sudden he loves Emma. After what was just a quickie to make Scott feel better.

Jean manipulated his mind into sticking around at the end of New X-Men.

Fatguy
02-12-2008, 12:28 PM
I just think it's weird that his wife dies and all-of-a sudden he loves Emma. After what was just a quickie to make Scott feel better.

Well, he was kinda all over Emma BEFORE Jean died, so it was sort of a natural transition.

Omega Alpha
02-12-2008, 12:28 PM
It is not only realistic, but is much more than Scott/Jean, and yes, is much healthier than the old couple too. Jean was always written as the perfect female and much superior to Scott (or anyone), who had inferiority issues. Plus, it was clear he was much more dependent of her than she was of him, and while Scott freaked out so much he married a clone, Jean wouldn't change that much, and while Scott had only a clone designed to love him which later died, a couple of D-listers who quickly forgot him and the Psylocke thing that lasted 5 minutes and then she moved on, Jean had half a dozen X-men in love with her. A relationship like that can only end the way it did, with the person in an inferior position leaving the other one to be with someone who's an equal of him or her.

claimtosubclaim
02-12-2008, 12:28 PM
I think he'd be perfectly fine single, and would prefer it.


I'm looking at his track record. I think that's more relevant than some fan's preference. Scott has shown that he needs an anchor. It's really all he has to keep him from tipping over into completely cold and stoic, since he doesn't project his emotions to anyone else save for his personal priest Logan.

long live jean grey
02-12-2008, 12:29 PM
It's not as believable as Cyclops/Pixie will be. <3


The way marvel is going, that relationship has about a 50% chance of happening.

Nyssane
02-12-2008, 12:29 PM
It's no more believable than T'Chalororo.

Fatguy
02-12-2008, 12:30 PM
It's no more believable than T'Chalororo.

Psh, now THEY make sense. They're both black, it's the perfect setup!

CaptainMarvel
02-12-2008, 12:30 PM
I'm looking at his track record. I think that's more relevant than opinion. the dude has shown that he needs an anchor. It's really all he has to keep him from tipping over into completely cold and stoic, since he doesn't project his emotions to anyone else save for his personal priest Logan.

His track record is that of someone leaving after he's suffered a personal tragedy. That's not the same thing as needing to have a girlfriend on the team to stick around.

Omega Alpha
02-12-2008, 12:30 PM
Well, he was kinda all over Emma BEFORE Jean died, so it was sort of a natural transition.

Yeah, they were both all over each other before, weren't they?

Teh m0nk3y
02-12-2008, 12:31 PM
I find the Scott and Emma relationship believable. The way Morrison built on it. The way Whedon had Emma confess to Scott. The way the current writers are portraying it. It might not be a match made in haven, but it has been built and established long enough for it to have become believable.

I just think it's weird that his wife dies and all-of-a sudden he loves Emma. After what was just a quickie to make Scott feel better.
Lets not forget who decided to push Scott into this relationship to hinder a certain dark and destructive future.

long live jean grey
02-12-2008, 12:32 PM
It's no more believable than T'Chalororo.

Yeah. And dont you think storm is a little too powerful to be this subdued housewife?

Nyssane
02-12-2008, 12:32 PM
Psh, now THEY make sense. They're both black, it's the perfect setup!

Scott and Emma are both stuck-up cheating white people? :confused:

claimtosubclaim
02-12-2008, 12:33 PM
His track record is that of someone leaving after he's suffered a personal tragedy. That's not the same thing as needing to have a girlfriend on the team to stick around.

When Jean was super pissed at him in Morrison's run (this isn't a personal tragedy like her dying), he fled from the X-Men. Logan had to retrieve him.

darknessatnoon
02-12-2008, 12:33 PM
I think she helps him have fun and unclench! I doubt it's monogamous on either end. That undoubtedly helps.

CaptainMarvel
02-12-2008, 12:35 PM
When Jean was super pissed at him in Morrison's run (this isn't a personal tragedy like her dying), he fled from the X-Men. Logan had to retrieve him.

Yeah, Logan. Not Emma. He just got into an argument with his wife, got pissed, and took off to get drunk. Just because he said it doesn't mean he actually meant it, either, as he was pretty upset. Pretty obvious he didn't mean it, though, as he joined Logan on a mission right after. And then he came back, and it wasn't Emma that brought him back. So your example is hardly definitive proof.

Fatguy
02-12-2008, 12:36 PM
Scott and Emma are both stuck-up cheating white people? :confused:

Scott's not stuck up! He's like Vanilla ice cream. A litte boring, but a staple of the dessert community.

claimtosubclaim
02-12-2008, 12:36 PM
Yeah, Logan. Not Emma. He just got into an argument with his wife, got pissed, and took off to get drunk. Just because he said it doesn't mean he actually meant it, either, as he was pretty upset. Pretty obvious he didn't mean it, though, as he joined Logan on a mission right after. And then he came back, and it wasn't Emma that brought him back. So your example is hardly definitive proof.

And where's your definitive proof?

He had to be convinced to come back. And he didn't join Logan on the mission willingly. He lost a bet. Besides, Logan is like a 2nd girlfriend to him anyway.

frog
02-12-2008, 12:37 PM
Cyclops has never stayed unattached for very long. He's got to have somebody. If all the ladies vanish, we'll have Cyclops/Logan soon enough!

jester1436
02-12-2008, 12:37 PM
It's also not as believable as Emma/Hellion.

lulz

CaptainMarvel
02-12-2008, 12:38 PM
His initial train of thought was that he was done w/ the X-Men. He had to be convinced.

And you've never gotten so mad that you've said something that you didn't really mean? Ater all, how much could he have meant it if he went right back into action five minutes later?

jester1436
02-12-2008, 12:38 PM
Did anyone else notice how close Scemma is to smegma?

Nyssane
02-12-2008, 12:38 PM
Scott's not stuck up! He's like Vanilla ice cream. A litte boring, but a staple of the dessert community.

He's also a trifling man-whore. How long until he cheats on Emma with someone else? Hmm?

CaptainMarvel
02-12-2008, 12:40 PM
He's also a trifling man-whore. How long until he cheats on Emma with someone else? Hmm?

The guy was in a bad way after getting merged with Apocalypse. He went to Emma for therapy, in order to fix his marriage, and she seduced him into an affair. He was hardly in a position to put up much of a resistance.

Fatguy
02-12-2008, 12:40 PM
He's also a trifling man-whore. How long until he cheats on Emma with someone else? Hmm?

lol I dunno.

There's absolutely no argument there, the guy is a certified man-whore. He's always had the wandering eye...

jester1436
02-12-2008, 12:42 PM
Cyclops Hearts Pixie, COMING SOON!

And everyone will be like "Pixie's dust and her perky pixie tits seduced Cyclops" and she'll be like "OMG! WUT! IWASEATINGDELCIOUSCOOKIESANDWATCHINGDISNEYCHANNELW ITHANOLE!"

long live jean grey
02-12-2008, 12:43 PM
Did anyone else notice how close Scemma is to smegma?

They're the same thing. They're both gross.

Omega Alpha
02-12-2008, 12:43 PM
Yeah, Logan. Not Emma. He just got into an argument with his wife, got pissed, and took off to get drunk. Just because he said it doesn't mean he actually meant it, either, as he was pretty upset. Pretty obvious he didn't mean it, though, as he joined Logan on a mission right after. And then he came back, and it wasn't Emma that brought him back. So your example is hardly definitive proof.

Do you realize that Emma had been shot and was literally at pieces at the time, right? Right?

darknessatnoon
02-12-2008, 12:44 PM
The guy was in a bad way after getting merged with Apocalypse. He went to Emma for therapy, in order to fix his marriage, and she seduced him into an affair. He was hardly in a position to put up much of a resistance.

As I recall it, Scott quickly reached the *breakthrough* that Apocalypse had very little to do with his anxiety. It's a Claremont world, and everyone of them had been possessed at some point or another. She helped him express a deeper dissatisfaction with Jean's turtle neck sweaters.

And when you go to "a certified sex therapist" by yourself, you're just begging to be "seduced."

Disco Jess Minge
02-12-2008, 12:44 PM
I wonder, are Jean Grey fans like Hydra?

Ban one and three more will take his place?:p

CaptainMarvel
02-12-2008, 12:45 PM
Do you realize that Emma had been shot and was literally at pieces at the time, right? Right?

Yes, but that doesn't really have anything to do with the point I was making. The guy just took off to blow off steam, and he came back. And it wasn't Emma that brought him back. Whether she could or couldn't is immaterial, since he came back.

long live jean grey
02-12-2008, 12:45 PM
I wonder, are Jean Grey fans like Hydra?

Ban one and three more will take his place?:p

Yes we are.

claimtosubclaim
02-12-2008, 12:45 PM
And you've never gotten so mad that you've said something that you didn't really mean? Ater all, how much could he have meant it if he went right back into action five minutes later?

Scott has always been the kind of guy who thinks about what he says before he says it. He mulls over stuff in his head over and over again before saying it. A perfect example of comparing his anger to someone else's was in Messiah Complex when Xavier berates Scott in front of the students, and instead of lashing back at him, Scott pulls him aside. Xavier apologizes and says that he didn't mean to do it in front of everyone, and Scott replies "Because it seemed like a good idea at the time." Scott's the guy who never has to think that in his head because he obsesses things in his mind before they come out of his mouth.

Also, he went on the mission because lost a bet to Logan, not out of his own desire.

CaptainMarvel
02-12-2008, 12:46 PM
And when you go to "a certified sex therapist" by yourself, you're just begging to be "seduced."

There's a reason therapists aren't supposed to get involved with their patients. I doubt that patients getting seduced by therapists, even sex therapists, is a common thing.

claimtosubclaim
02-12-2008, 12:47 PM
There's a reason therapists aren't supposed to get involved with their patients. I doubt that patients getting seduced by therapists, even sex therapists, is a common thing.

Sex therapists also generally don't look like Emma.

frog
02-12-2008, 12:50 PM
Sex therapists also generally don't look like Emma.
I strongly suspect they don't act like her either in the interests of keeping their licenses!

darknessatnoon
02-12-2008, 12:51 PM
I strongly suspect they don't act like her either in the interests of keeping their licenses!

OMG, you SO must not be watching In Treatment on HBO!

frog
02-12-2008, 12:54 PM
OMG, you SO must not be watching In Treatment on HBO!

Nope, don't get HBO. However, I bet it has as little to do with reality as, well, telepathic sex therapists who wear sexy bandaids!

Optic Rage!
02-12-2008, 12:57 PM
I lol'ed and cried when i seen the name of this thread and the fact it was creatd by a Jean fan.

It works, its intresting, the majorty of people love it or at least like it more then Scott & Jean.

Novaya Havoc
02-12-2008, 01:03 PM
What is UP with all the one-sentence threads? BLARGH!

Brian Cronin
02-12-2008, 01:05 PM
If only we had some sort of rule that involves searching for past threads on a topic before starting a new thread on that same topic...

If only...

-Brian