Hulk Delays

[Hrungr]

Just incase you haven't heard yet, the new Hulk series is already suffering from some pretty staggering delays.

Hulk #2: February 20, 2008
Hulk #3: April 23, 2008
Hulk #4: June 25, 2008

That's right - the end of June for issue #4 according to The Comic List (http://www.comiclist.com/index.php/shipping/p2591#more2591). :mad:

I mean c'mon... if this is the best they can do they just need to get off this book RFN.

[Cayman]

Hardly surprising given the creative team.

[Bulky Brent]

Really has this been confirmed? If so then aggh but you do have to look at the creative team just hope we don't get another Bendis/Cho thing going on here oh well at least I got other Hulk material to read in the meantime.

[Hrungr]

Really has this been confirmed? If so then aggh but you do have to look at the creative team just hope we don't get another Bendis/Cho thing going on here oh well at least I got other Hulk material to read in the meantime.
I'm hearing more and more rumors that McGuinness is the weak link here. I like his work but really, if it's true, he should do what Cho did and excuse himself from the book, but before it turns into a MA-style debacle.

[Drdmx]

Is it possible that the delays could be related to characters with involvement in other books, and perhaps mess with ongoing tiimelines? For instance if it is Samson, and he's still involved as regular Samson in Iron Mans book, or if Strange isnt done freaking out in NA?

I dont know, figured I'd play devil's advocate.

[dabig2]

Well since #4 is the Big Green's return (or at least first appearance), they might be tying it in with the movie's release. See him smash in the movie and then see him smash some Red in the book.

That's one of the only ways I see it being announced that it'll be a 2 month delay here in very early February

[matthewaos]

Is it possible that the delays could be related to characters with involvement in other books, and perhaps mess with ongoing tiimelines? For instance if it is Samson, and he's still involved as regular Samson in Iron Mans book, or if Strange isnt done freaking out in NA?

I dont know, figured I'd play devil's advocate.


That is what I thought about, but if it's not... GOD!!!!




Thank goodness, I don't buy the book;)

[CapnCaveman]

Shocking. It's just like Ultimates 2, Civil War, One More Day, Mighty Avengers, etc.

Marvel just can't deliver on the big titles.

[Robogeek28]

Well since #4 is the Big Green's return (or at least first appearance), they might be tying it in with the movie's release. See him smash in the movie and then see him smash some Red in the book.

That's one of the only ways I see it being announced that it'll be a 2 month delay here in very early February

That's exactly what I'm thinking, too much of a coincidence there.:D

[Drdmx]

Well since #4 is the Big Green's return (or at least first appearance), they might be tying it in with the movie's release. See him smash in the movie and then see him smash some Red in the book.

That's one of the only ways I see it being announced that it'll be a 2 month delay here in very early February

This is an excellent point as well. If #4 is a great issue and it's around the movies release, it will only stoke (forgive the pun:) Hulkamania.

[Cayman]

Is it possible that the delays could be related to characters with involvement in other books, and perhaps mess with ongoing tiimelines? For instance if it is Samson, and he's still involved as regular Samson in Iron Mans book, or if Strange isnt done freaking out in NA?

I dont know, figured I'd play devil's advocate.

That would seem more likely if Loeb and McGuiness's Superman/Batman runs hadn't shipped so late as well.

[Brian M.]

Well this sucks. Since only 1 issue has shipped and it'll be a while before we get anything done w/ this plot, consider it dropped.

[Pedrocas]

Is it so hard to do a bunch of comics before releasing the first issue so there's always a comic to launch every month without going into such delays?

[Michael P]

Delays? On a Loeb/McGuinness book? The hell you say!

[Expletive Deleted]

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOEB!

*shakes fist*

[CyberCoyote]

Is it so hard to do a bunch of comics before releasing the first issue so there's always a comic to launch every month without going into such delays?

The granddaddy team of delays Millar/Hitch went and got themselves almost a year ahead on the FF to compensate. Did they do that of their own volition or was it dictated from above? I thought the Marvel offices were getting a grip on these things? If not I gotta tip my hat to to MM/BH for taking personal respponsibility there.

[Shade 20x6]

Shocking. It's just like Ultimates 2, Civil War, One More Day, Mighty Avengers, etc.

Marvel just can't deliver on the big titles.

Don't even get me started on Onslaught Reborn. 14 months for a 5-issue series... :rolleyes:

[Maestro]

I hate reading late monthly comics as they come out. It completely ruins the arc for me. That's why I only read titles like Astonishing X-Men, The Ultimates, and most likely Millar's Fantastic Four in trade.

[Tor]

Late monthlies that I actually like will turn into unbought monthlies that I become frustrated for. When a book ships late like this (after the FIRST ISSUE, even!), it screams TRADE to me.
Which is really pathetic, considering the type of hype that Hulk has had ever since Planet Hulk began.

[Khan Zor-El]

Just incase you haven't heard yet, the new Hulk series is already suffering from some pretty staggering delays.

Hulk #2: February 20, 2008
Hulk #3: April 23, 2008
Hulk #4: June 25, 2008

That's right - the end of June for issue #4 according to The Comic List (http://www.comiclist.com/index.php/shipping/p2591#more2591). :mad:

I mean c'mon... if this is the best they can do they just need to get off this book RFN.

Typical Marvel. More proof that Quesada sucks, he still can't keep big names from getting a damn book out on time. I remember once upon a time there was this book called "Ultimate Wolverine vs. Hulk"...

[Fatguy]

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOEB!

*shakes fist*

LOL yea, he takes an awful long time to deliver on mediocrity.

This was pretty easy to predict, but disappointing none the less. :mad:

[C. Earl]

Well this sucks. Since only 1 issue has shipped and it'll be a while before we get anything done w/ this plot, consider it dropped.

Same here. I'm done.

Unless one is already a fan of the Hulk and doesn't mind waiting because of their love of the franchise, lateness like this so quickly out of the gate is really unacceptable to a new reader stepping into the Hulk Universe for the first time. There's just too many other books that are more timely competing for your dollars...

[rZi]

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOEB!

*shakes fist*

My thoughts exactly!

[G. Wayne]

Bah. Fan-bloody-tastic that this is delayed now too. Can't Marvel, y'know, *learn* from their mistakes, ever?

[shadowchaser]

sucks, i liked the first issue and was so hyped up on getting to read it monthly...this really blows

[Brian M.]

sucks, i liked the first issue and was so hyped up on getting to read it monthly...this really blows

Exactly. But with each week that goes by I lose more and more interest. Was never a big Hulk fan but this was interesting...now my Hulk interest waivers as the X-Men head into a new status quo, we gear up for Secret Invasion and Spider-Man moves forward in his new digs.

[Huh?]

Well since #4 is the Big Green's return (or at least first appearance), they might be tying it in with the movie's release. See him smash in the movie and then see him smash some Red in the book.

That's one of the only ways I see it being announced that it'll be a 2 month delay here in very early FebruaryYeah, because they have been so successful in the past at turning movie viewers into comic readers. I'm sure it will work this time, though.

[Huh?]

Bah. Fan-bloody-tastic that this is delayed now too. Can't Marvel, y'know, *learn* from their mistakes, ever?Can't superhero comic fans learn from theirs? If all of you just didn't buy the book you would stop seeing delays. But instead everyone posts online how much it sucks and happily buys the late books when they finally come out. What lesson is Marvel supposed to learn exactly?

[Khan Zor-El]

Can't superhero comic fans learn from theirs? If all of you just didn't buy the book you would stop seeing delays. But instead everyone posts online how much it sucks and happily buys the late books when they finally come out. What lesson is Marvel supposed to learn exactly?

You are right about one thing, "everyone posts online".

[Montezuma]

Oddly enough I have the opposite reaction as most. I thought #1 was pretty good but not Cap, Iron Man, Spiderman level good so I was planning to drop it. Knowing I'll only be paying three bucks every two months or so makes me more likely to keep buying just to keep up to date. It shouldn't be hard to re-read previous issues as the new ones come out as Loeb doesn't exactly seem to be text heavy.

[DasPoppen]

Well, there are so many other good books to read. Will switch to trades once the first arc is done by the end of the year...

[Joe Franklin]

I buy Hulk for the art alone, so I can wait for Ed to take as long as he wants to draw the book.:cool:

[Drdmx]

I buy Hulk for the art alone, so I can wait for Ed to take as long as he wants to draw the book.:cool:

I typically like art in Hulk comics, except for one arc, so I'm definitely with you there. I also like the character very much as well, writers tend to handle him well for the most part.

That said, I cant believe there's this much outrage over some delays. Just, read something else? Or maybe re-read old books to hold you over. Is it really THAT big of a deal?

[Joe Franklin]

That said, I cant believe there's this much outrage over some delays. Just, read something else? Or maybe re-read old books to hold you over. Is it really THAT big of a deal?

True. I look at it like it saves me money each month when some of the titles I buy ship 7 times a year instead of 12 or more, so the delays save me money each month. I win.:)

[Spiffy]

Just incase you haven't heard yet, the new Hulk series is already suffering from some pretty staggering delays.

Hulk #2: February 20, 2008
Hulk #3: April 23, 2008
Hulk #4: June 25, 2008

That's right - the end of June for issue #4 according to The Comic List (http://www.comiclist.com/index.php/shipping/p2591#more2591). :mad:

I mean c'mon... if this is the best they can do they just need to get off this book RFN.

Does Loeb think he's Allan Heinberg? I remember Heinberg pulled the same crap when he took over Wonder Woman. As has been said... its bad enough with a top selling book, on the level of Batman or Spider-Man, but somehow it seems ever worse when its a character they are trying to push onto that top shelf and the delays just destroy any chance of that happening.

[steve2275]

just how much lead time has ed had anyway?

[Britannic]

I can see the sales figures for this one going down the crapper. The Incredible Herc better watch out Hulk might be back in his original book quicker than we though. As some one said this ain't life threatining it is just bad business. Imagine if I ran a Sandwich shop like this. "Here's your bread. Come back next week for the filling." :). Poor show on Marvel's part but I doubt they care.

[leeisl]

I can see the sales figures for this one going down the crapper. The Incredible Herc better watch out Hulk might be back in his original book quicker than we though. As some one said this ain't life threatining it is just bad business. Imagine if I ran a Sandwich shop like this. "Here's your bread. Come back next week for the filling." :). Poor show on Marvel's part but I doubt they care.

That's not a good analogy.

[xarathos]

Marvel just doesn't seem to care as much if they put stuff out that people want to read. I swear, they are oblivious to this stuff like 'OH, let's bring back Captain Marvel','let's get rid of all the mutants and destroy the whole concept of the X-men, one of our best selling books of all time', and 'how about a super team for every state'.

The scheduling thing is just a simptom of a bigger problem. They just don't seem to 'get it'. They announced a J Scott Campbell project about two years ago. I don't even care about it anymore, not to mention I think J Scott lost his touch in my opinion. Just put stuff out. Forget the Civil Intitiatve stuff, get some writers. If you don't care about continuity, have writers that come up with stuff that doesn't reference it, eventually some writer (who doesn't work on television) will come up with something great.

I'd take Hulk off my list,but at this rate I'll probably forget about the series altogether by the time the next issue really comes out.








What was I talking about?

[Hulk Strongest One]

Is it possible that the delays could be related to characters with involvement in other books, and perhaps mess with ongoing tiimelines? For instance if it is Samson, and he's still involved as regular Samson in Iron Mans book, or if Strange isnt done freaking out in NA?

I dont know, figured I'd play devil's advocate.


Exec: We have to hold up Hulk issues for months because minor character Doc Sampson is being used in an incompatible way in a different mag.

Member of the Board: You're fired.



So, no, I'm doubting that theory. :p

[Slumber Hulk]

Delays like this just waste any momentum and new fans gained in WWH and Planet Hulk.

[Crixtala]

I typically like art in Hulk comics, except for one arc, so I'm definitely with you there. I also like the character very much as well, writers tend to handle him well for the most part.

That said, I cant believe there's this much outrage over some delays. Just, read something else? Or maybe re-read old books to hold you over. Is it really THAT big of a deal?
True. I look at it like it saves me money each month when some of the titles I buy ship 7 times a year instead of 12 or more, so the delays save me money each month. I win.:)

I'm with you guys... it's not like I can't go back and re-read something if I don't remember what happened. And as much as some people complain about comic prices on here... this is your chance to save some cash.

[Bulky Brent]

The delays don't bother me but they shouldn't have posted such big solicits which make people such as myself over anxious to get the book.

[Fatguy]

I'm just pissed that we wont see Hulk #4 for a long time, it was the one I've been SMASHING for!

[BADunn]

If I'd know this book was going to be delayed like this I would not have bothered. I've been looking forward to reading the rest of the story too. I don't even care if Marvel planned on this being bi-monthly. A schedule like this for one of the top two publishers with a character like the Hulk is completely unacceptable.

[Scott Taylor]

Might as well be vaporware. This series is going to go nowhere, oh well.

[Don't pee in the (Dead)pool]

...seems to be delayed aswell. In fact, there seems to be no sign of this book whatsoever now. Another delayed product, thank God that when Garth Ennis' run on Punisher MAX ends that I can finally drop Marvel altogether!

[Bulky Brent]

Don't pee in the (Dead)pool I wouldn't drop Hulk yet (i don't know about Marvel). I am also annoyed that Skaar has been delayed and not even mentioned in the solicits. Now would be a good time to check out Marvel Adventures Hulk it has just about enough excitement as main stream Hulk.

[Joe Franklin]

I can see the sales figures for this one going down the crapper.

It will be a top 10 Marvel book month-in month-out, no matter how late it is. Every thing that Loeb and McGuinness have worked on together has been a top seller. Hulk will be no different.

[Britannic]

Agreed but there good luck has to run out some time. :D

[rZi]

...seems to be delayed aswell. In fact, there seems to be no sign of this book whatsoever now. Another delayed product, thank God that when Garth Ennis' run on Punisher MAX ends that I can finally drop Marvel altogether!

This is a good delay, the longer this doesnt come out the more happy we'll all be i can assure you.

Something tells me even hulk fans are gonna hate this kid, he'll be the jason todd of the 616

[comicum18]

Man this really pisses me of. I´m thinking in telling my comic shop guy to cancel my order on this one and get me the incredible hercules back issues. I heard it`s a fantastic series:mad:

[Dr. Chaos]

Ed's art is like a beautiful sweet luscious fruit getting ready to become ripe, I can wait for it.

If Loeb starts derailing the monthly schedule, get him off IMMEDIATELY, as someone who writes like he's really been phoning it in ever since he got to Marvel while making heroes spout some of the cheesiest lines I've heard since the 90s, he's far from worth it.