Teen Titans #55 (spoilers)

[DarkCrisis]

This issue was up and down for me

Why is Ravager being such a witch to Devil? Maybe she really likes him?

And we see that Megan has her evil future selfs psyche stuck in her brain.

Also Supergirl leaves the team? Can we PLEASE get a core team? A team thats longer than 6 issues?

Also looks like the Robin/Cassie thing isn't happening AGAIN. Why do they keep dangling this?!?! Have it happen or not! Yeesh! And shes over Connor, shes not over Connor. Pick one!

And she may have left the team as well.

It seems for every step forward this book takes it takes 2 steps back.

[Will J.]

This issue was up and down for me

Why is Ravager being such a witch to Devil? Maybe she really likes him?

And we see that Megan has her evil future selfs psyche stuck in her brain.

Also Supergirl leaves the team? Can we PLEASE get a core team? A team thats longer than 6 issues?

Also looks like the Robin/Cassie thing isn't happening AGAIN. Why do they keep dangling this?!?! Have it happen or not! Yeesh! And shes over Connor, shes not over Connor. Pick one!

And she may have left the team as well.

It seems for every step forward this book takes it takes 2 steps back.


I think I'm done with this book.

Looking back at Geoff Johns' run and now five issues into Sean McKeever's, regardless of whether or not editorial mandate had anything to do with the ToT sequel, I really don't like what this book has done to Robin's character.

Geoff Johns made him too damn dependent on his friendship with Superboy, to the point where he'd compromise his own ethics to bring him back. I'm sad to see Sean McKeever continue with that portrayal.

As you pointed out, the Robin/WG thing has gotten old fast. Ravager kicks ass, but yeah, I really can't see her being a witch to Eddie, who's a character I didn't like at first, but he's grown on me. I thought the Supergirl/WG had potential, but that gets tossed out the window rather shoddily. Blue Beetle's fine. I'm no fan, but I don't dislike him, either.

This one's coming off the pull list. I'm gonna have to judge it issue by issue now, and btw, apologies for ranting about Robin, but this issue is really what cemented the whole thing for me.

[Deadpooligan]

We were promised Clock King!

I didn't buy this issue of Teen Titans for the wangst! I bought it for an BtAS inspired Clock King!

Way to rip me three dollars, DC.

[Zero Hunter]

I think I am about done with this book too. For the last 6 months or so it just has not been that good. The whole "Titans Tommorow Today" arc just didn't make a whole lot of sence and now this issue where almost everyone is acting like a bunch of spoiled brats with each other just helped me decide even faster. The book is in need of a new writer fast since the current one just isn't getting the job done

Whats sad is I like cast of charcters, but the writing has just been so subpar ever since Geoff left that the book has just been getting worse and worse. Then when you add in the fact that they can't even get a stable cast it just makes the book suffer even more.

I think another thing that is hurting this book is the total absence of all the older Titans. DC really screwed up by putting out the Titans East book so soon before the new Titans series launched. I mean was it even ever mentioned once in the Teen Titans why Vic left for the east coast? I mean he was supposed to be the one looking out for the new kids, and suddenly he was just gone.

[DayWing]

Oy! The only thing that would have gotten me to read the book would have been the inclusion Supergirl so that they keep the Bat-guy/Wonder-gal/Super-person dynamic going.

Don't get me wrong, I am not saying the book is bad, its just that I am only collecting a 3 titles for now and Teen TiTans would have been one of the next I would consider picking up. With Supergirl gone, it just just got bumped back a little.

[Kevinroc]

I didn't even bother picking this one up. Just looked through a few pages in the store to see if it interested me.

At this point, call me when Bart Allen comes back because he's the only thing that could make this book readable.

[Berkey]

I've been readind TT for the past 5 issues and have to say wasn't completly sold on the Titans of Tommorow and this issue didn't help. Hopefully this will led to a nice battle where te Titans are outmatched and some new members come to their aid and they join the team. If that doesn't work then maybe the TT East will be better.

[Mister Intensity]

The whole thing seemed contrived. The rationale for Supergirl leaving the team seemed more of a reason for ending a friendship than leaving a team. It might have been interesting to keep Supergirl on the team while having tension with Wonder Girl. Traditionally all the Titans more or less got along so having team members not like each other might be interesting from a story standpoint.

Also, is it me or was the whole, "Blue Beetle not Titans material," speech sounded like Editorial making an excuse for not having him join the team? What makes him less worthy of the Titans than Ravenger, Kid Devil, Miss Martian, or Robin for that matter?

Mister Intensity

[Jack]

I'm not sure if the decisions in this issue came from McKeever or editorial, but my god were they clumsily executed.

[Will.S]

Yeah I pretty much dropped the Titans book like an issue before the wrapup of "Titans Tomorrow". The book just isn't as good as when Geoff and Tony were on it, you can practically pinpoint when the quality dropped.....dramatically.

I'm most likely going to get rid of or sell the books I have that are after Teen Titans #49.

[4thHorseman]

So.......is the whole Match/Jericho thing ever going to be resolved? I don't understand why they would let someone with the abilities of Match just kind of be put to the side when Jericho is showing problems holding onto him...

[Will J.]

So.......is the whole Match/Jericho thing ever going to be resolved? I don't understand why they would let someone with the abilities of Match just kind of be put to the side when Jericho is showing problems holding onto him...

Doubtful. This book is a mess now, and it doesn't look like that's going to change anytime soon.

[xnef1025]

How Cassie and Robin's talk about Supergirl should have gone:

WG: I told Kara I only sought out her friendship as a filler for Conner so she's left the team. I think it's for the best for me and the team since now she's pissed at me. Oh and I'm totally over Conner now.

R: Wait a minute, so evil future you leads you to this epiphany and you realize... what? You think Kara is a bitch and were never really her friend to begin with?

WG: Huh? No! I just thought I should be honest with her, and hanging with her would be awkward now, and detrimental to my getting over Conner.

R: You just said you were over Conner.

WG: Oh... umm...

R: So now you've alienated a friend and gotten a powerful member of the team to leave so you can get over something you're already over? WTF is wrong with you?

WG: It's like there are these little people in my brain badly editing my actions!

Overall, this issue was just painful.

[Alexx1]

I didn't particular like how Robin/Tim, WG/Cassie, and Ravenger were drawn. I really disliked how Rose was drawn out of custome. Kid Devil and MM were okay though. Not a big fan of the art.

[Bellis]

I was left very unimpressed. I was really looking forward to McKeever coming on the book, but he's not living up to expectations at all so far. And I'm even less impressed at YET ANOTHER "evil Titans"-style storyline next month. That's Titans East, Titans Tomorrow and now Terror Titans as three big arcs almost in a row, broken up by about...three issues of filler, which isn't especially going going on the variety side of things.

[COMIC GEEK]

I havent bought an issue since I guess you can say the last storyline, and to my regret that was a waste as well. For a few reasons.

One this wasnt the titans team I wanted to read about, two, the story was so damn confusing.

As a titans fan who's been reading titans for 30 years and has aquired and read everything the titans have been in, this will be the 2nd time I wil be dropping the titans title. THe first was jurgens run, and now sean's.

Thank god that come april we will be getting a titans title that I am excited about.

[BeastieRunner]

Count me in the minority but I enjoyed it.

[Johnny_Luck]

So.......is the whole Match/Jericho thing ever going to be resolved? I don't understand why they would let someone with the abilities of Match just kind of be put to the side when Jericho is showing problems holding onto him...

Sean has said over and over again that the issue would have be be addressed in another titans or other book if it will be as he won't be.

[COMIC GEEK]

Sean has said over and over again that the issue would have be be addressed in another titans or other book if it will be as he won't be.

which is a cop out. You think with rose on the team he might wanna get some interaction between joey and rose

[Will.S]

Sean has said over and over again that the issue would have be be addressed in another titans or other book if it will be as he won't be.
I could see this being transferred to the Winick book but you won't find me buying that crap.

[Captain Jim]

I'm not sure if the decisions in this issue came from McKeever or editorial, but my god were they clumsily executed.

Well, McKeever said that Supergirl leaving was his idea.

[Captain Jim]

I think this is going to be my last issue for awhile, too. I'm buying too much stuff already so something has to go and this book just hasn't done it for me for quite awhile. Actually, I originally planned to leave with Johns, but then I stayed around for the anniversary issue, and then the tie-ins, and then the Titans Future follow-up... Enough!

IMO, they made a big mistake when they killed off Bart and Conner. That was half of the core team. And none of the replacements do it for me. Kid Devil is only okay and I actively dislike Ravenger and Miss Martian.

[Knightmare10880]

Well I finally read the issue, and "oh dear" was the first thing that poped in my mind. What happened to Cassie, everytime I read her latley she's whining about Connor or being a total witch to everyone.

I can see why McKeever would want to get rid of Supergirl, because of the whole "2 super strong uber powerful blondes thing" but Cassie and Kara are two totally different characters with totally different personalities which could have led for some interesting dynamics. I too miss Connor and Bart, but they both died heroic deaths and I'm tired of seeing characters die and then brought back almost as soon as they die.

As far as the new characters I loved Ravenger under Johns writing and I think under the right writer she can be a very fun character especialy the bickering between her and Cassie.

I like Kid Devil and Miss Martian, although they need different functions.

I'm sorry to keep going back to this, but the whole Cassie/Tim and Cassie/Kara thing were both handled horribly. Break ups are messy, but there are ways to do it without turning poor Cassie in and uber witch.

Reading this whole issue it's like they want to set up the future that the "Future Titans" came from. Titans of Tommorrow should have been a one time story and left at that.

Can we please get Gail Simone or maybe Terry Moore on this title as fast as possible or at least bribe Geoff Johns to come back.

[COMIC GEEK]

I actually skimmed it today when I went to pick up my other titles..

I thought the issue was dreadful. I'm glad I just didnt buy it and bring it home to read later.

[Ilash]

Yeesh, was there a hell of a lot of badly written teenage angst in this or what? It really didn't help that this came out the same week as the latest issue of Blue Beetle because man, BB #23 is a textbook example of how to do great comics about teenage superheroes.

I know this seems like a lot to ask but shouldn't a comic book about superpowered teenagers be, ya know, at least kind of fun?

[Kevinroc]

I too miss Connor and Bart, but they both died heroic deaths and I'm tired of seeing characters die and then brought back almost as soon as they die.


The problem is that Wonder Girl has become defined by Superboy's death. She is not her own character anymore, she's just there to mourn Kon.

The loss of Bart was also an extremely terrible decision as it not only results in the characters wallowing in misery, it also removes the title's major source of comic relief. None of the new members have proven a suitable replacement for Bart's comic relief role.

There's a manga title called Berserk. It is incredibly violent and disturbing (it earns the shrink-wrapping and warning label). But the creator has never forgotten the importance of comic relief. No matter how disturbing or tense the situation, we have a character fill the role of comic relief. It almost seems as if DC has forgotten how important it is to have a character fill the role of comic relief.

While Kon's fate still seems to be "mourned by Wonder Girl," it does appear that Bart is returning. And it can't come soon enough since both Teen Titans and Flash need him very badly.

[Jack Zodiac]

Yeesh, was there a hell of a lot of badly written teenage angst in this or what? It really didn't help that this came out the same week as the latest issue of Blue Beetle because man, BB #23 is a textbook example of how to do great comics about teenage superheroes.

Word. Blue Beetle #23 was one of the best issues Rogers' has written. :D And the next two are only gonna get crazier and better I'm willin' to bet. He's got a great voice for a teenage superhero and gets Jaime very well. McKeever does, too. I loved his appearances in the last Teen Titans arc, and his dialogue in this last issue was good, too.

But the rest of the issue was a real drag. An entire issue of angst. There seem to be some cool set ups for future conflict, like Megan's future self stuck in her mind or the Eddie/Jaime feud over Rose, but the way it was all jammed into one issue just kinda sucked. I'm nowhere near ready to drop the title, though, because I'm sure it's gonna get better again soon, and I loved what Sean did with his first arc, it's just a real shame that this one issue happened to suck because he jammed all of the heavy set-up stuff into it.

[Kage Kisaragi]

woah woah woah!

1.) Page one screamed Lesbians... I know I make it sound crude but im not trying to be. That was generally the first impression I got without knowing the whole story (which doesn't come up into much later.)

2.) Isn't this budding friendship between Blue Beetle and Ravager kind of out of the blue?

3.) Should Kid Devil really be uh upset about this? I mean he and Ravager had pretty much the same thing she has with BB now, it's just that we haven't seen the on screen innuendo that her and Kid Devil had in the past. I think he's being to emotional which highly explains why his future self is so unemotional. The fact that Future Devil calls Rose a betrayer isn't necessarily him declaring her as a betrayer of the team but of him, and that seems to fall perfectly in line with thats happening right now.

4.) Robin and Wonder Girl, uh, please stay away from one another. You have all the classic elements of a vile relationship already and you haven't even official dated. Tim would do better to hook up with the other Cassie if you asked me. The problem with that is, is that that one had a thing for Superboy too.

5.) Ms Martian, seriously if she had just stayed problem free and kept up the face of the team role in terms of its strong goody goody roots I would have been happy and this book would have kept my interest.

I'm not saying im gonna stop reading just yet, but the direction of Ms Martian and the leaving of Supergirl has me turning my nose up a little to a lot at this book.

[BeastieRunner]

Unless the Clock King next issue is sweet, I'll be dropping this title. Sorry Sean.:(

[titanfan]

I can see why McKeever would want to get rid of Supergirl, because of the whole "2 super strong uber powerful blondes thing" but Cassie and Kara are two totally different characters with totally different personalities which could have led for some interesting dynamics.

I think it was a "powers" issue more than anything. Between Supergirl, Miss Martian, and Wonder Girl, you start heading into Justice League threats territory and the writer may not have wanted that. They are already pretty much stronger than the Wolfman/Perez Titans ever were.

[Kage Kisaragi]

Yeah but wouldn't that make a lot more sense.. That the next generation is a little tougher than the last.

[Fatguy]

Yeah, I just read this today, and I do believe I'll be dropping it when I go in the my LCS this week.

It's become a team of whiney, unlikeable people. No thanks.

[dreyga2000]

I liked this issue. I have actually been wanting to read tamer issue of Titans for a while. I find very facinating despite their win against the Titans of Tommrow that they are making the steps toward becoming them.

Miss Maritan tempted to give in to her warrior hertitage.
Kid Devil feeling bretrayed and subsequent hatred of Blue Beetle.
Tim falling for Cassie then the break-up.
Wondergirl admiting her futureself was right about her emotional cructhes


It seems like the title finally has some direction again. Though I dislike the loss of Supergirl. I thik I'll be staying on to see how this plays out...

[DoctorDoom]

The problem is that Wonder Girl has become defined by Superboy's death. She is not her own character anymore, she's just there to mourn Kon.

The loss of Bart was also an extremely terrible decision as it not only results in the characters wallowing in misery, it also removes the title's major source of comic relief. None of the new members have proven a suitable replacement for Bart's comic relief role.

There's a manga title called Berserk. It is incredibly violent and disturbing (it earns the shrink-wrapping and warning label). But the creator has never forgotten the importance of comic relief. No matter how disturbing or tense the situation, we have a character fill the role of comic relief. It almost seems as if DC has forgotten how important it is to have a character fill the role of comic relief.

While Kon's fate still seems to be "mourned by Wonder Girl," it does appear that Bart is returning. And it can't come soon enough since both Teen Titans and Flash need him very badly.
Wait....Bart's returning?

[MutoMikey]

Man, I hate to say it but I do agree. This book really IS a mess. I really don't think McKeever has any real understanding of these characters at all. As for Wonder Girl, I think she's been a wreck of a character for the past year or so. And I will say this... I don't think that even Bart coming back could fix this book because I would hate to see DiDio and McKeever get their hands on him.

Really, this team of Titans just DOESN'T work. When Johns started it, that team made sense. It was the kids from Young Justice and they all had a long relationship together as it was so the chemestry worked. I don't really feel much connection to the characters in this book as a team much at all.

Plus, what's with all the 'anti-titan' teams all of a sudden?! It's a concept that's gotten VERY OLD, VERY FAST.

It wouldn't hurt my feelings at all if this book were headed for a mercy cancellation before the year's up. Anybody who's read my posts before knows that I'm never the first to say 'CANCEL IT' and the like, but this used to be one of my favorite books and now it's just so unreadable to me. It's like 'One Tree Hill' as a superhero book! *sigh*

I miss Impulse...hell, I miss Young Justice period. Some one fix these Emo-Titans before I drop the book.

[Ilash]

I miss Impulse...hell, I miss Young Justice period. Some one fix these Emo-Titans before I drop the book.

My thoughts exactly - and I sadly never even read much Young Justice back in the day (hey, DC howzabout some trades?). McKeever's work on Birds of Prey shows promise but his Titans is just a mess.

[Captain Jim]

In fairness to McKeever, Johns is the one who came up with this current team in the OYL issues. It was a bad from the start. :mad:

[Alex A Sanchez]

Yeesh, was there a hell of a lot of badly written teenage angst in this or what? It really didn't help that this came out the same week as the latest issue of Blue Beetle because man, BB #23 is a textbook example of how to do great comics about teenage superheroes.

I know this seems like a lot to ask but shouldn't a comic book about superpowered teenagers be, ya know, at least kind of fun?

I'm so sad to see that so many people dislike Sean's work on this title. The teen books he has written over at Marvel (Spidey <3's MJ, Inhumans, etc.) have been amazing. Maybe it is the cast that he is working with. :(
Either way, I've still got my fingers crossed that the next story arc will be good.

[Fatguy]

I'm so sad to see that so many people dislike Sean's work on this title. The teen books he has written over at Marvel (Spidey <3's MJ, Inhumans, etc.) have been amazing. Maybe it is the cast that he is working with. :(

Yea, I had some high hopes. But the Titans Tomorrow arc was MEH at best, and this last issue was gut wrenchingly bad.

[Spiffy]

This issue was SO bad it was almost beyond comprehension.

First you get Wonder Girl acting like an infant. But when you think they are going to have Robin call her out over it... well.

He starts to. Then the book has Cassie dig both her and Tim's holes deeper by having her basically manipulate him into dropping the whole thing. Making them BOTH look like idiots.

Then you've got the bit with Ravager acting like a psycho bitch. Yes, she's been a psycho bitch before, but it just sort of got yanked out of nowhere this time. I suppose we are intended to believe that all of these characters are having some kind of "future shock" from the arc which just ended, but man, it really isn't working.

The Miss Martian thing wasn't that bad--at least its sort of a "classic" super-heroey problem.

And Blue Beetle not being up to their level? Good grief. Hasn't Batman complimented the kid recently? Is Robin now a better judge of talent than Batsy?

[MutoMikey]

And Blue Beetle not being up to their level? Good grief. Hasn't Batman complimented the kid recently? Is Robin now a better judge of talent than Batsy?

Yeah, man! I think that the recent issue of BB has shown that Jaime can handle anything the Titans have to and more! He's basically a 'Teen-Green-Lantern' in terms of power.

I still can't believe how much I'm dissapointed with this book right now. *sigh* Atleast I have Winnick's 'Titans' to look forward to! :D

[Ilash]

I'm so sad to see that so many people dislike Sean's work on this title. The teen books he has written over at Marvel (Spidey <3's MJ, Inhumans, etc.) have been amazing. Maybe it is the cast that he is working with. :(
Either way, I've still got my fingers crossed that the next story arc will be good.

Yeah, I've heard such good things about his Marvel work. Maybe the problem is the characters he's working with or perhaps its an editorial thing. Probably more likely the latter.

[Midina^_^]

This comic was up and down for me as well.
Why do they have to try and force the relationship between Cass and Tim anyway? Why can't they just be friends that support each other? I mean I know that there teenagers with raging hormones but we have Kid Devil and Rose to fill that at the moment. (I can't believe how mean she was being to him.)

I love Conner kent, but unfortunately he is dead and he isn't coming back so please stop with the conner story lines!

I'm not putting Titans down however because I want to see how the Ms Martian thing works out.


Overall opinion: AVERAGE COMIC (Nothing really good about this issue, nothing really bad about this issue)

[Midina^_^]

Man, I hate to say it but I do agree. This book really IS a mess. I really don't think McKeever has any real understanding of these characters at all. As for Wonder Girl, I think she's been a wreck of a character for the past year or so. And I will say this... I don't think that even Bart coming back could fix this book because I would hate to see DiDio and McKeever get their hands on him.

Really, this team of Titans just DOESN'T work. When Johns started it, that team made sense. It was the kids from Young Justice and they all had a long relationship together as it was so the chemestry worked. I don't really feel much connection to the characters in this book as a team much at all.

Plus, what's with all the 'anti-titan' teams all of a sudden?! It's a concept that's gotten VERY OLD, VERY FAST.

It wouldn't hurt my feelings at all if this book were headed for a mercy cancellation before the year's up. Anybody who's read my posts before knows that I'm never the first to say 'CANCEL IT' and the like, but this used to be one of my favorite books and now it's just so unreadable to me. It's like 'One Tree Hill' as a superhero book! *sigh*

I miss Impulse...hell, I miss Young Justice period. Some one fix these Emo-Titans before I drop the book.

lol YEAH! Bring back young justice! :D

[Alex A Sanchez]

lol YEAH! Bring back young justice! :D

Young Justice rocked. Peter David has an exclusive contract with Marvel now, so unfortunately it will never be the same.

[Midina^_^]

Young Justice rocked. Peter David has an exclusive contract with Marvel now, so unfortunately it will never be the same.

Yeah unfortunately... *Sniff*
Well at least the villans look kinda cool at the end. "Destroy them from within" kinda ones.

[MutoMikey]

But why another 'anti-titans' team? This is like the third one in a row.

And it occured to me from reading solicits, are they (writer/editor) trying to get rid of Rose?