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Kid Kyoto
01-21-2008, 07:02 AM
Well I asked about this a while back and we had some pretty good guesses so lets try it again. With Final Crisis coming up DC's going to be looking to kill them some characters. We know that in prior crisisi editorial just gave writers a list of who's expendible.

So who is on the current list?

Obviously anyone who's never had a series and never will, as well as background characters like the alien Green Lanterns. Let's just take that for granted.

Also...

Anyone with a recently cancelled book - Firestorm, Aquaman, Batgirl
Anyone who's looking redundant - Nightwing, Speedy, Conner, Huntress
Any lesser teammembers - Kid Devil, Vixen, Katana
Anyone big names who haven't been killed and ressurected lately - ??? Well that leaves Flash, and Hal Jordan out. But I guess it's been over 10 years since Wonder Woman and Superman took their dirt naps...

Who else?

michaeljsmith
01-21-2008, 07:40 AM
There is the whole "Batman RIP" storyline rumor that are going on right now...

Sean Walsh
01-21-2008, 08:36 AM
Apparently Martian Manhunter is on the FINAL CRISIS death list, as artist Mike Netzer is starting a campaign to save him.

HaroldAllnut
01-21-2008, 04:10 PM
Hello fellow comic book fans! I'm new to this board and figured this would be the best place to start. Something about this topic attracted me.

In regards to the DC chopping block, there have been rumors of Clark and Lois' marriage pulling a "Brand New Day" and somehow getting chopped out of continuity. Final DIVORCE Crisis, anyone? :eek:

DonEMC
01-21-2008, 07:02 PM
Hello fellow comic book fans! I'm new to this board and figured this would be the best place to start. Something about this topic attracted me.

In regards to the DC chopping block, there have been rumors of Clark and Lois' marriage pulling a "Brand New Day" and somehow getting chopped out of continuity. Final DIVORCE Crisis, anyone? :eek:

I think DC will wait to see how Marvel's treatment of Spider-Man will work before they make any moves on the Superman-Lois Lane marriage.
I doubt that Batman will die. Too much licensing going on there. Superman, Flash and Hal Jordan have all died, so don't count on DC going down that road again. The Death of the Flash in Crisis on Infinite Earths was a way to bring an end to the Silver Age (he was the first character of the age), so why do it here?
Martian Manhunter seems like a good choice and we all know that Dan DiDio has made no bones about not liking Nightwing, so those two, I would think, are heavy favorites.
I hate to see Martian Manhunter die, because I think there's a good character that no one seems to understand.
He's kind of like the Atom. No one since Gil Kane and Jan Strnad has been able to get him right. Other than turning small and racing through phone lines or being the scientist on the JLA, the Atom hasn't really been a major player, because no writer has thought up an original take on the character.
NIghtwing is a character I really never have been able to like. Retire him, but don't kill him. Arsenal is a character I'd love to see get the ax (and there are very few characters that I absolutely don't want to read; even Brad Meltzer's use of him in JLA wasn't that great).
DonEMC

Eumenides
01-22-2008, 06:53 AM
Martian Manhunter seems like a good choice and we all know that Dan DiDio has made no bones about not liking Nightwing, so those two, I would think, are heavy favorites. I hate to see Martian Manhunter die, because I think there's a good character that no one seems to understand.

I'm sure a lot of people have understand MM well enough to have him in every JLA line-up from the original Big Seven to the Detroit League to Giffen and DeMatteis' JLI to Morrison's JLA Big Seven Again.

It's only Brad Meltzer, who loooooooooooooooooooooves the JLA so much and knows everything about these characters and was a big fan when he was a kid, that doesn't seem to know Martian Manhunter is the heart and soul of the JLA. Since Meltzer is one of the arch-writers plotting the major storylines of the DCU today, I can see why our green martian will soon go to a paradise of red sand.

DonC
01-22-2008, 08:49 AM
Geoff Johns has publically stated that the character he would most like to kill off is Pa Kent.

Young Avenger
01-22-2008, 11:01 AM
Anyone whos been on Young Justice.

Umberto
01-22-2008, 11:39 AM
I've always tought deads are only for improve the sells... I don't know why there's always to make dead some heroes, writers can change their characters without pushing them to death.

Paul Dee
01-22-2008, 12:49 PM
Geoff Johns has publically stated that the character he would most like to kill off is Pa Kent.


Blimey. What's his reasoning behind that? Do you have a link?

CYOTI
01-22-2008, 06:53 PM
Blimey. What's his reasoning behind that? Do you have a link? No he doesn't.

dademan
01-22-2008, 07:18 PM
Now, I'm not up to speed on the Countdown-stuff, but just to mention the whole Superman-Lois Lane thing:

I know Smallville isn't really canon, but with the introduction of Chole Sullivan, isn't there a chance at a new love interest in Mr. Kent's life?

soda
01-22-2008, 07:53 PM
I didn't know that Chloe has even been in a DC book yet, I think she's so far been confined to the TV show. As for who dies..

I'm placing my money on Sinestro, Hal said as much at the end of the corps war.

dademan
01-22-2008, 07:55 PM
I didn't know that Chloe has even been in a DC book yet, I think she's so far been confined to the TV show. Well, she isn't yet, but after this Insect Queen arc, she is being introduced as "Lois' Blonde-haired cousin"

soda
01-22-2008, 08:46 PM
really? They're going to put her in the book?

Which issues are these? I'm a bit behind in my reading right now, so I'd like to know. I know a group of guys on another website I frequent who want to know which book her first appearance will be in. We're all big fans of Allison Mack on the tv show, IMHO, Allison, Michael Rosenbaum's lex, and John Schnieder's pa kent are the three best things about Smallville.

Micro
01-23-2008, 04:05 AM
With DC's recent track record, I would say any character created or made popular in the 90's:

Azrael - Believed Dead
Spoiler(Stephanie Brown) - Dead
SuperBoy - Dead
Impulse/Kid Flash/Bart Allen - Dead/Dead/Dead
Max Mercury - "Missing"....aka: Dead
Jade - Dead
SuperGirl(Linda Danvers) - According to Dan DiDio "wiped from existence."
Steel - Alive
Kyle Rayner - Alive,...for now.
Robin(Tim Drake) - Alive, till they make Damian the new Robin.
Bane - Alive working with Luthor
Nightwing - Alive

dademan
01-23-2008, 07:01 PM
really? They're going to put her in the book?

Which issues are these? I'm a bit behind in my reading right now, so I'd like to know. I know a group of guys on another website I frequent who want to know which book her first appearance will be in. We're all big fans of Allison Mack on the tv show, IMHO, Allison, Michael Rosenbaum's lex, and John Schnieder's pa kent are the three best things about Smallville.

Issue 674, being relesed March 12th.

I have to agree with ya. Allison Mack is an amazing actress (and cute to boot). Rosenbaums Lex is awesome, but then again, I haven't seen the Reeve's Supes movies.

PretenderNX01
01-23-2008, 07:59 PM
Well I asked about this a while back and we had some pretty good guesses so lets try it again. With Final Crisis coming up DC's going to be looking to kill them some characters. We know that in prior crisisi editorial just gave writers a list of who's expendible.

So who is on the current list?

Obviously anyone who's never had a series and never will, as well as background characters like the alien Green Lanterns. Let's just take that for granted.

Also...

Anyone with a recently cancelled book - Firestorm, Aquaman, Batgirl
Anyone who's looking redundant - Nightwing, Speedy, Conner, Huntress
Any lesser teammembers - Kid Devil, Vixen, Katana
Anyone big names who haven't been killed and ressurected lately - ??? Well that leaves Flash, and Hal Jordan out. But I guess it's been over 10 years since Wonder Woman and Superman took their dirt naps...

Who else?

Looks like you accurately predicted Conner Hawke's death. And obviously a bunch of alien background lanterns died during Sinestro wars but some of the newer ones might die in Final Crisis.

My money is on Superboy Prime dieing- maybe even to try and pull off some sort of "redemption climax" for the story. Or its wishful thinking on my part. :D

And as Micro said any character made popular in the 90s, especially if they were a part of Young Justice (Superboy, Impulse, even Lagoon Boy)

octothorp
01-24-2008, 09:13 AM
Considering the near-total lethality of the Morticoccus virus, global populations throughout the multiverse might collapse during the upcoming Great Disaster storyline. What would you call a death-total that large? Omnicide?

DonC
01-24-2008, 09:18 AM
Blimey. What's his reasoning behind that? Do you have a link?


At one of the DC Nations panels at Wizard World Chicago 2006 Dan DiDio asked the panel who they would most like to kill off. Geoff Johns' answer was Pa Kent. No one gave any reasons.

avatarjunkie
01-24-2008, 01:18 PM
I'd slim down the Batfamily and Supefamily, too many heroes on the bandwagons there......

Crenshaw
01-28-2008, 05:14 PM
Oh, I got one. JFK.
Yeah, maybe it's a little too soon considering the work Jay Stephens and Mike Allred did to bring him back and yeah maybe the intellectual hero of JFK was just supposed to stick out against the bigotry and the chauvinism of the sixties.

My theory is that the multiplicity of the "uni"verse is wholly dependent on the state of Jack's mind and Ray Palmer's going to have to make a trip to avatar-Jack on Ullustro to mend his brain. Yeah, whatever.

Sean Walsh
01-28-2008, 05:28 PM
At one of the DC Nations panels at Wizard World Chicago 2006 Dan DiDio asked the panel who they would most like to kill off. Geoff Johns' answer was Pa Kent. No one gave any reasons.

Well, he died pre-Crisis.....and since lots of pre-Crisis stuff is coming back in style, it shouldn't surprise anyone that this might come back too.

And given that he died in Brad Meltzer's JLA #0, in a "tomorrow" segment, I would think the plan exists on killing him off eventually.

Sean Walsh
01-28-2008, 05:29 PM
Max Mercury - "Missing"....aka: Dead

Isn't he in the Speed Force (which I think is back since the speedster's are back to full power) or wherever Barry is?

Spiffy
01-28-2008, 08:05 PM
Ah. I tried this topic in another forum and it didn't take off.

I think there are tons of characters who are "doomed" at DC.

New Aquaman. Eventually doomed.

Ravager. Eventually doomed. Miss Martian? Probably the same.

Batwoman? Maybe. When DCs little experiment with her fails. In contrast to Renee Montoya, who even lamely and uneccesarily transformed into a Superhero isn't doomed.

Whatshername, the extra Catwoman. Even if she's not currently Catwomaning. Doomed.

Most if not all of those Infinity Inc. dorks.

I have a strange feeling that Wonder Girl could take a metaphorical pickaxe to the skull sometime in the next 3-5 years.

The Marvel list may be even bigger.

Zero Hunter
01-29-2008, 03:11 PM
Issue 674, being relesed March 12th.

I have to agree with ya. Allison Mack is an amazing actress (and cute to boot). Rosenbaums Lex is awesome, but then again, I haven't seen the Reeve's Supes movies.

Didn't they just say that the plans ot bring Chloe in to the comic world had been cancelled? I could have sworn Didio said that in a recetn interview.

Superman-Prime
02-02-2008, 02:59 PM
I didn't know that Chloe has even been in a DC book yet, I think she's so far been confined to the TV show. As for who dies..

I'm placing my money on Sinestro, Hal said as much at the end of the corps war.

Who was the little daughter of jordans brother referring when she said
"dady uncle Hal is killing someone"???