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mattbib
01-17-2008, 10:58 AM
Greeting fight fans! Welcome to the first fight of the day!

Please review the rules on voting here (http://www.geocities.com/mattbib/mutantleague2008rules.html).

And now on to our fight...

In the first corner we have CyberHubbs & fitditz's Spiral's Charmed Basket of Yarn To Strangle You With And Sharp Pointy Stuff:
Spiral, Ahab, Hybrid, Firestar, Sauron, Frederick Slade, Vanguard

vs

In the other corner is Mitsaso & Novaya Havoc's Hoes of Justice:
Emma Frost, Dazzler, Siryn, Justice, Amelia Voght, Layla Miller, Namora

Both participants have submitted strategies:

Please do not post or vote until both strategies have been posted and read.

mattbib
01-17-2008, 11:03 AM
Fueled by day 5,442,103 of the WGM (Writers Guild of Mojoverse) strike, Mojo, desperate to retain viewership to his once flagship television station, MBC – Mojo Broadcasting Channel, turns to reality-based programming. Opting to give his “best girl” an honest chance at the big time, Mojo enslaves a group of seemingly B-rated heroes and villians as co-stars in his twisted rendition of Survivor. Bound to an absurd contract are Firestar = the bombshell, Vanguard = the loveable giant, Ahab = the disgrunted paraplegic, Sauron = the party-pooper, Frederick Slade = the old guy and Hybrid = the schitzo. Their reward for lasting the season = (possible) freedom, their punishment for losing = infinity in reality TV television re-runs.

Coming to MBC Thursdays this fall, Spiral's Charmed Basket of Yarn To Strangle You With And Sharp Pointy Stuff. Join everyone’s favorite 6-armed criminal genius as she plots and schemes to create the most absurd cyborg ever! Each week, Spiral will use her crew of misfits and mistletoes to battle it out with a group of mutant (and some non-mutant) foes. Each match that Spiral wins, the more spare parts she adds to her Body Shoppe. The more body parts, the crazier the cyborg! What will she come up with at the end of the season? Lady Deathstrike you say? I say, you ain’t seen nothing yet! Only time will tell...only one thing is certain = the longer she lasts, the bigger the fun!

ROUND 1 – DANCING WITH THE STARS

SLADE
"I say, on with all of you hooligans!" Despite his ornery glower and shaken fist, Frederick gives Firestar a good-natured wink as he teleports her, Ahab, Vanguard and Sauron away from their end of the battlefield with a BLINK! and a bright pink-hued flash. The four mismatched teammates reappear instantaneously above Justice and his Nasty Hoes. With a loud battle scream, 'HO!', all except Vanguard take flight and bee-line towards Hoes who begin to scatter; the Russian warrior begins to freefall from a thousand feet, wind rushing past him.

HYBRID
Meanwhile, as Slade teleports our team of 4, the purple-fleshed creature hisses and flaps its mouth, making a disgusting sucking noise sounding eerily like some maniacal laughter. Hybrid instantly glares across the field at Amelia Voght and paws at her mind, slipping inside and immersing it with the dark, slimy grasp of his telepathy. He clenches down, just enough to control her but leaving Amelia well aware of her utter helplessness at the same time.

SPIRAL
As her six weaving hands halo with arcane light Spiral moves through an intricate and sinister ballet. At the pinnacle of the dance, her two middle arms shoot out, the index and pinky of each pointing forward while the others curl delicately beneath her thumbs. She sneers at the lone male, Justice, on the other team. 'No more powers for you!' she screams deliciously.

AHAB
Rocketing out of Frederick's teleportation in his hovering chair, the gray-faced Hunter reels up in his seat and glares down at Emma as he bares down on her from above. Immune from her telepathic attack he roars 'Your one-eyed pet made a fine Hound for a time!' just as a harpoon shoots unerringly from his outstretched cyborg hand. 'You're next....If you survive!'

FIRESTAR
The fiery redhead wanted nothing more than retirement. A better-looking Murtaugh in spandex! But she doesn't dwell on what she could have, or else she would have been staring longingly at Justice this entire time. Angelica knows her role, and has been in the 'business' long enough to act professionally (her first co-starring role in the 80's Spiderman and his Amazing Friends). Leaving a winding trail of flame in her wake, Firestar sweeps down to intercept Namora. The blue-skinned Atlantean Princess is tough, but like her cousin relies on moisture to keep her strong. Firestar begins to deprive her opponent of just that, battering her with blasts of heat from afar and frying the very air around them.

SAURON
He just wants to kick butt! Sauron is hardcore like that! Blotting out the sun with his great wingspan, Sauron sweeps down and attacks Siryn. Her sonic shout is powerful, but so are Sauron’s swirling, mesmerizing eyes. He attempts to take control of her (or at the very least, keep her distracted by avoiding his starey glare).

VANGUARD
Encasing himself in his personal force field, Nikolai plummets rapidly towards the dusty Australian surface and starts to repel gravity, pushing it toward the other team. He centers mainly around the earth-bound warriors Justice, Layla Miller and Dazzler who, caught by surprise, are not able to make a solid escape. As Spiral's spell continues to nullify Justice's telekinesis, Vanguard's 'bomb'-like descent to the earth soon becomes realized and proves to be a stunning attack. Hitting the ground with a deafening BANG!, the shockwave sweeps out from the newly formed crater with enough force to, at the very least, scatter Justice and his Nasty Ho(e)s, if not knocking them right off their feet and into a dazed state.

ROUND 2 – THE REAL WORLD

SLADE
While he may be working with such monsters, Slade refuses to become one himself. Frederick points a finger at Layla and catches her in a flashing BLINK! as the smoke continues to clear from Vanguard's attack. Slade deposits her atop the ruined shingles of a nearby dilapidated house.

AHAB
The choice for Emma is clear: revert to diamond-form or run and be tagged by a razor-sharp harpoon. She chooses the former. Ahab's relentless attacks become absorbed by her hardened form, but he wants her kept just like that. Soon, she'll be unable to ward off his hurled harpoons. Ahab's scarring grin continues to taunt.

HYBRID
You will make splendid stock. Hybrid’s terrible thought filters into Amelia's captured mind; a harsh whisper that makes her gut clench and forces tears from her very eyes. The woman has no say as Hybrid takes control of her transubstantiation powers then turns her mind off, placing her unconscious and out battle. Longing for more, he sets his sights on Siryn who is tangled up with Sauron high up above. He seizes control of her mind, vulnerable from her distration of Sauron and her lack of defense from a transformed Emma, and begins to draw her towards him through telekinesis.

SPIRAL
Wanting to get her hands dirty, four blades are brandished and she winks across the short distance and stands over a dazed Dazzler. As Allison attempts to rise, Spiral lashes out with a boot and knocks her back down. 'Give it to me!' Spiral shrieks, grabbing a fistful of blonde hair and dragging the other woman upright. Three blades enter Allison's stomach and burst from her back, rays of light rupturing out and bathing Spiral's smiling face. 'Ahhh. Yes! That's it. All the brightness in the world...'

FIRESTAR
Having unleashed a fair display of her energy to weaken Namora, she lands not far from the scorched princess and pants breathlessly from exertion. She makes a choice to give Namora a chance to surrender but not before a shadow falls across the fallen warrioress...

SAURON
“She was mine” he squawks at Hybrid who is now feasting on his red-headed prey. With his ears still ringing his attention falls upon a defensless princess. Sauron wings past Siryn's misty shape and falls hungrily upon Namora like a bird of prey. He hooks his talons into her shoulders, dragging her into the dirt, and begins to feed upon the woman's life-force right in front of a horrified Firestar.

VANGUARD
The silent and brooding type, Vanguard strides from the crater to engage Justice in melee with his hammer and sickle. Noticing Spiral’s spell beginning to fade, Vanguard powers up his force field and counters most of Justice’s now recovering yet still weakened telekinesis blows.

ROUND 3 – THE BIGGEST LOSER

SLADE
Stranded on the roof of a nearby building, Layla finally begins to see a way out of this “mess”. Suddenly, with a resounding BLINK! she disappears, this time along with the house she was stranded upon, re-appearing above Emma Frost and crashing down atop her. Layla tumbles from the roof and lands in the dirt injured but not out.

AHAB
Like one of those crazed elderly drivers, Ahab veers away from the smashing building and chases after Justice. With his neural-disrupting whip and Vanguard's relentless assault, both prove to be too much combined power for Justice and he goes down in a battered, paralyzed heap. Ahab spends the next few minutes poking at Justice's prone form with the tip of a harpoon, finding villainous amusement in the way the boy's body jerks and spasms with every jolt.

SPIRAL
With Allison's body slipping bloodily from her blades, Spiral advances towards Layla and curls a finger under the girl's chin. 'Now I bet you didn't see any of THAT coming!' She then she punches Layla square in the face, knocking her out.

With her final blow, Spiral does a pirouette and a grande jete to celebrate her victory in a win well deserved.

mattbib
01-17-2008, 11:14 AM
Soundtrack: "Your Husband is Cheatin' on Us" – Betty Wright

Our team has two options – offensive or defensive.

The Hoes of Justice go for defense.

As soon as the battle begins, the team immediately springs into action:

ROUND 1

EMMA FROST:
Instantly psi-shields the teams from susceptible attacks from Hybrid or even Sauron, while also mindlinking Layla Miller with the team.

JUSTICE:
Instantly envelops a telekinetic forcefield tightly around our Hoes (and himself).

SIRYN:
Erupts a sonic scream directed solely at Dazzler.

DAZZLER:
Envelops a laser defense shield around Justice's telekinetic shield, about a 1m gap. This laser light simultaneously is projecting an infinite number of high laser beams in an entire radial direction, both at the opposing team and any other nearby structure in the Outback.

LAYLA MILLER:
Her precognitive abilities of "knowing stuff" predict that Ahab will attempt to lock on to one of our characters and try to do a quick KO, which would prove devastating as it cannot be disrupted by energy, including Dazz's forceshield or Justice's TK shield.

The thought of his spear, the target, and where it will go is transmitted at the speed of thought to Amelia Voght.

AMELIA VOGHT:
Her line of sight teleportation goes into immediate work. Based on Layla's projection, she transubstantiates Ahab's spear and reforms it directly inside of Spiral, wounding her tremendously, and shorting her out.

The result of this defensive stance will look something like this (don't LOL at my ghetto!):

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b41/havoc1/fs.jpg

RESPONSE TO ROUND 1 CRITIQUES/NOTES:
Emma is one of the world's best, most highly trained psychics, and will instantly block any telepathic assault. She has also shown the ability to both psi-shiled and mindlink simultaneously. This will not over-exert her.
Dazz has unlimited sound-to-light conversion capabilities, and can also create light objects away from her own body (as in she does not necessarily have to radiate it herself, as is shown on many occasions, especially in the use of the defensive laser shields).
Siryn is directing all sound directly at Dazzler, which she is consciously absorbing. No "collateral damage" from the sound affects the team; Dazzler has even successfully absorbed Blackbolt's scream in a major urban center without any adverse affects to the nearby population or infrastructure.
Dazz's light is projected outward, which does not blind/dazzle our Hoes (think of looking at a laser lightshow that is not focused directly into your eye. Consequently, the lasers do not emit a searing light on their own, so they are not dazzling the opposing team.

This defensive position makes it impossible for telepaths, teleporters, or bruisers from getting at or near our Hoes. Any teleporters would either teleport into the barrier itself, effectively killing them, or they would teleport on top of our heroes – which would need to be a very precise move – where we have Namora to give them a 1-2 KO knockout of fabulous.

Amelia can transubstantiate on sight, or even with being able to think of certain locations. As Layla can predict the outcome, Amelia should be able to pull this off.

There is a chance that Ahab may not draw a spear, but as Ahab relies mostly on his spear as an offensive ability, it is very likely the opposing team will do so. If this is not the other team's case, then the move will instead go:

LAYLA:
Her precognitive abilities predict Spiral's sorcery dance of choice.

The thought of Spiral, her dance, and the effects are transmitted at the speed of thought to Amelia Voght.

AMELIA:
Her line of sight teleportation goes into immediate work. Based on Layla's projection, she transubstantiates Spiral's swords and reforms them directly inside of Hybrid – an enemy they know has regenerative abilities. This wounds him for enough time where he is no longer an immediate threat to our Hoes.

KO:
Spiral (if plan B, Hybrid)


ROUND TWO

THE TEAM'S POSITION:
It's entirely possible that Dazz's laser barrage has severely wounded or even KO'd several of the team's opposing members. But for the sake of the league, we're not taking any chances!

DAZZ:
Amplified by Siryn's sound, Ali then amplifies her laser barrage into concussive photon blasts before dropping the barrage. This high-level of energy should put a number on any defensive shields in place by the other team, especially after the laser barrage.

SIRYN:
She stops her sonic wail before Dazzler stops her blast. Dazz is still charged with a great deal of sonic energy.

LAYLA:
Predicts directly where Amelia should teleport.

AMELIA:
Transubstantiates our team and drops them near Hybrid, based on Layla's predictions.

EMMA:
Re-ups the psi-shield once they re-materialize.

--- The Opposing Team should be a successful distance away from one another thanks to Dazz's laser/photon barrage. --

NAMORA:
Attacks Hybrid. If a telekinetic shield is put in place by Hybrid, the weakened foe is distracted/disoriented/wounded sufficiently that a telekinetic assist [/B]by Justice should sufficiently KO him, especially if he tried to cipher one or the other's powers. And in this case, he already possesses the powers of the two assaulting him (Namora's super-strength/Justice's tk).

LAYLA & AMELIA:
Predicts and deflects oncoming projectiles or attacks from other teammates running to the aid of Hybrid (especially if he puts out a telepathic SOS). This will come in handy for Ahab's spears or to call Justice for help against a distance attack from Firestar or if the Frederick Slade decides to teleport their team together.

PLAN B:
If, as in round 1, the team had to focus on Hybrid and not Spiral, the absence of Spiral's weapons weakens her sorcery. A combined team of Namora, Justice, Dazz, and Siryn will outmatch her, as Spiral's well-known overconfidence, Dazzler's knowledge of her tactics, and Spiral's lag-time in needing to perform dances to pull off strong spells will eventually have her downed.

KO:
Spiral, Hybrid

ROUND 3

Now without that sorceress or the telepath cipher to obstruct the team, the Hoes work it out, looking out to off anyone who wasn't taken by Dazz's laser barrage. For completion's sake, we're assuming nobody was KO'd, though this surely ain't the case.

With Emma no longer needing to psi-shield:

EMMA:
Mindlinks the team and lets them know the opponents' locations. They split into separate groups:

DAZZ & SIRYN:
The fabulous beauties descend upon Ahab, unleashing a sound and light barrage. The affects on his equilibrium and senses, both sonic and light, dazzle him out.

AMELIA AND NAMORA:
These Hoes teleport to Vanguard, where Amelia transubstantiates away Vanguard's hammer and sickle on-sight and tosses them across the Outback. Weaponless, the super-strong Namora edges him out.

JUSTICE:
Encases both Sauron and Firestar in telekinetic bubbles. Justice and Firestar dated, so he's totally not gonna let Firestar get the smackdown from one of his current Hoes.
Justice then increases the telekinetic density of the bubbles so that air molecules cannot get through, causing both Firestar and Sauron to pass out from lack of oxygen.

KO:
Spiral, Hybrid, Ahab, Vanguard, Sauron, Firestar


ROUND 4

You can bump this up into the last round, but we just love Frederick Slade.

He was a formidable and ruthless teleporter, and a member of Clan Akkaba. He's also Blink's grandpappy. But he's totally 100 years old by now. You might think he looks like THIS:
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b41/havoc1/fy.jpg

But he totally looks like THIS:
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b41/havoc1/fo.jpg

So if Dazzler's initial blast didn't cause him to fall and break a hip already, we have two ways of dealing with the teleporter:

1. EMMA
After Hybrid's defeat, she mindblasts him.

2. LAYLA
Knowing that old men love young girls, she walks up to him and flashes her Only-for-Madrox milkmaids, causing Frederick to have a stroke and in dire need of …THERAPY! with Nocturne. And he – with the Diva formerly known as Qwerty – will both learn to overcome their paralyzed states.

KO'd:
Spiral, Hybrid, Ahab, Vanguard, Sauron, Firestar, Frederick Slade

The Hoes then return to Justice's Pleasure Palace where they bathe in champagne and round out the day with a soothing Sade soundtrack. They also invite CyberHubbs and fitditz's team to the party, and after having one too many dazzletinis, Hybrid has drunken sex in his alien form with Sage, who's recovering from her virus attack in the guest room. Sage dies horribly 48 hours later, when alien babies 'splode through her womb.

Final Notes:
- Frederick Slade was a formidable teleporter. Now, he's super! old. His reflexes, mental acuity, and precision are largely under question. Don't tell me Emma Frost is going to look sexy in that diamond form when she's 100 either. Then again, diamonds are forever.
- The opposing team uses Spiral, Ahab, and Sauron – all villains that are used to working solo and often have solo agendas. The ability for them to work in tandem with each other – let alone heroes – raises issues of plausibility.

Brian M.
01-17-2008, 11:23 AM
Good strats on both ends.

The difference in this match I believe will be the defensive stance by Mits and Novaya. Hybrid does nothing thanks to Emma's mindlink, the teleportation above the Ho's is gonna get dismantled quite easily I think. Justice is quite a strong TK'er, probably 2nd only to Rachel Grey in his League, and Dazzler/Siryn combo is genius. Between the shields and the outpouring of laser/photon energy it should shred the group that ports above.

Vought's teleportation/line of sight work is very handy and the Ahab/Spiral move I think is pulled off w/o a hitch.

I really don't think CyberHubbs and fitditz's team does much in this match. That defensive move at the beginning really takes out a lot of what they were trying to do.

I'll let both sides respond to the opposing strats and I'll let a couple pages of debate go before I submit our team vote, but this to me is kinda clear cut.

Josef F.
01-17-2008, 11:36 AM
Omg.
Dazzletini.
My Legacy Lives On.
:D

Mitsaso
01-17-2008, 11:43 AM
OMG OMG I'm so excited on our first match! I think I'm gonna have a heart attack!

Anyway, Cyberhubbs, fitditz (are you really fit, anyway? hubba hubba) great strategy, you guys. I really loved how you gave your team an origin story, and the evil move of throwing a house on top of Emma Frost brought me sweet Wizard of Oz memories...!:D

Now, on to the real important parts.
First, can Frederick Slade teleport others from a dinstance? The way you have him do with Layla? If someone has read the Apocalypse vs. Daracula mini, please clarify that for us, cuz it doesn't state so anywhere I looked.
It also seems that many of your initial moves are cancelled out by our defensive tactics, or even turned against you;


Despite his ornery glower and shaken fist, Frederick gives Firestar a good-natured wink as he teleports her, Ahab, Vanguard and Sauron away from their end of the battlefield with a BLINK! and a bright pink-hued flash. The four mismatched teammates reappear instantaneously above Justice and his Nasty Hoes.
So, they reappear right above the shield that Justice has already lifted and are being pulverised by Dazzler's supernova lightshow (who was, ironically, intended to be defensive, lol).


Hybrid instantly glares across the field at Amelia Voght and paws at her mind, slipping inside and immersing it with the dark, slimy grasp of his telepathy.
But Amelia and everybody else are telepathically protected by Emma, so Hybrid will just stand there, trying to get past it, unsuccessfully. yay!

Spiral's move, trying to magically depower Justice, might work, but you guys have Ahab create his harpoon/spear thingy as soon as they materialize above the Hoes, which would result in Amelia teleporting his spear in Spiral's belly before she completes her magical dance.

So, all the initial moves of your guys go moot because of our little defensive trick, with the exception of Slade, who might be capable of teleporting Layla from afar or might not (but being teleported still doesnt affect Emma mind-linking her with the others, since she's safe and conscious on a roof--at least until your version of round two), and Vanguard, whose field might protect him from having Dazzler's defensive lasers blast his ass, but right next you have him plummet head-first on her lasers AND Justice's teke field.

I want to thank Novaya for thinking of that graceful defensive move, and didn't have the team going for the triple EmmaDazzlerSyrin beam everyone thought we were all about.;)


P.S. Mattbib, is it against the rules of ML to hit on one of the opposing ML players? Maybe I should edit out that "hubba hubba" to fitditz. *sad*

pryde15
01-17-2008, 11:48 AM
this was a great match, each team had a very good strategy.

right now my vote leans towards Mitsaso & Novaya, but I am going to wait a while before I vote.

Mitsaso
01-17-2008, 11:56 AM
Good strats on both ends.

The difference in this match I believe will be the defensive stance by Mits and Novaya. Hybrid does nothing thanks to Emma's mindlink, the teleportation above the Ho's is gonna get dismantled quite easily I think. Justice is quite a strong TK'er, probably 2nd only to Rachel Grey in his League, and Dazzler/Siryn combo is genius. Between the shields and the outpouring of laser/photon energy it should shred the group that ports above.

Vought's teleportation/line of sight work is very handy and the Ahab/Spiral move I think is pulled off w/o a hitch.

I really don't think CyberHubbs and fitditz's team does much in this match. That defensive move at the beginning really takes out a lot of what they were trying to do.

I'll let both sides respond to the opposing strats and I'll let a couple pages of debate go before I submit our team vote, but this to me is kinda clear cut.

Oh, Brian, I'm sorry we killed Sage. This strat was posted to mattbib before you guys took over Speed's team.;)
By the way, we intend to kill her off in every round. Are we allowed to do this? We promise, she will be revived in time for your matches!!!:D

Boogie
01-17-2008, 11:58 AM
I'm not waiting to vote. Both strats were entertaining, but the Hoes of Justice pulled it off i think. Taking a total defensive stance at the beginning...

and i must sidebar for a second: Now, i haven't been around for the ML a lot, but this is one of the only time i have seen a team start off with a total defensive strategy. Super creative and fab. (in my eyes)

... was awesome. It totally made Spiral's Charmed Basket of Yarn To Strangle You With And Sharp Pointy Stuff's opening attack move, moot.

Brian M.
01-17-2008, 12:00 PM
Oh, Brian, I'm sorry we killed Sage. This strat was posted to mattbib before you guys took over Speed's team.;)
By the way, we intend to kill her off in every round. Are we allowed to do this? We promise, she will be revived in time for your matches!!!:D


Qwerty told me you guys would do that, we've been spending time together. But how can you kill the Ruler of the Omniverse? Oh wait...nevermind. Just make sure she's put back together and switched on in time for our match.

fitditz
01-17-2008, 12:02 PM
hey guys, give us time to respond first before voting! :confused:



at work so will not be able to respond for at least another hour or so....

Mitsaso
01-17-2008, 12:06 PM
Qwerty told me you guys would do that, we've been spending time together. But how can you kill the Ruler of the Omniverse? Oh wait...nevermind. Just make sure she's put back together and switched on in time for our match.

To thank you for your generosity, we're also giving her a full hard-disk (with an overclocking on the side;) ) service after every shut-down.:D

Novaya Havoc
01-17-2008, 12:20 PM
I'm not waiting to vote. Both strats were entertaining, but the Hoes of Justice pulled it off i think. Taking a total defensive stance at the beginning...

and i must sidebar for a second: Now, i haven't been around for the ML a lot, but this is one of the only time i have seen a team start off with a total defensive strategy. Super creative and fab. (in my eyes)


Thank ya! We wanted to try to do something different and unexpected. Besides, it gave me an oppotunity to make a ghetto diagram of it. :D

Nyssane
01-17-2008, 12:40 PM
LOL, both strats are awesome. I love the sort of fanfiction-esque nature of CyberHubbs and Fitzditz's strategy and the reality show mockery. I also love Novaya and Mitsy's with their creative teamwork effort. To be honest, I was sort of worried Novaya and Mitsy wouldn't take it seriously enough to put together a solid strategy, but they really did and they worked superbly together (EVEN BETTER THAN ME AND NOVAYA?!?!).

I'm going to hold off on voting just to give CyberHubbs and Fitzditz and opportunity to debate but the defensive stance really helps the opposing team out.

I just worry about fighting Novaya Havoc & Mitsaso myself. :( My team has almost zero defense and that would be teh suck.

Shyft
01-17-2008, 12:40 PM
i prefer Mits/Novoya because the opening defensive move is a great idea. i DO have a few issues.

Layla has indeed been shown as having specific prediction abilities, but often she has been shown to have general powers of predicting patterns, over-arching possibilities, etc. The idea of her predicting specific missile attacks/ the dance Spiral will use, is, to my mind, stretching her abilities.

I know Dazzler is a powerful character, but i think absorbing Siryns rather potent sound attack, creating a solid shield and an INFINITE number of laser spikes? It just seems a little bit like Dazzler is being used as a character who should have cost 3 character slots, not 1. absorbing, shielding AND using an attack with "infinite" spikes which could apparantly take out several enemies at once doesnt sit well with me. ( i know you specifically said Dazzler isnt "assumed" to have taken out multiple players, you clearly indicate you think she should have, which i think is unbalanced.

Please note, i go into my criticism deeply because i felt overall your strategy was excellent, and thus its few weak points needed discussing. Please take it as a comliment.

Novaya Havoc
01-17-2008, 01:33 PM
Shyft:

Thanks for the comments! I definitely take it as a compliment. And I will try to address your critiques with this:

Mitsy and I are well aware (and trying rull hard) not to Mary Sue out Dazzler or Layla too much. Fortunately, with Siryn dumping high sound into Ali, it's completely acceptable in-canon. Also note: the laser defense shield is not solid -- it's laser energy, in that it will destroy oncoming projectiles. The outpouring of laser spikes is an extension of that laser energy.

I know Dazz seems pretty powerful and versitile here, but that's directly related to Siryn's sonic energy -- if she were like this all the time, I'd definitely say Dazz should at least be a 2, if not a 3. But if we didn't have our lovely Terry, Dazzler's powers would be much limited. That's why we're so stoked we have them both!

With Layla it's always going to be YMMV, and we know that's a risk. She's been shown to "know" more long-term chain reactions (like when she removed the bath handle screws, killing the Singularity assassin), and also more immediate stuff (bending over resulting in the "Death" of Nicole). But rest assured -- we're definitely trying limit Layla in the matches. And trust us, it's as just as hard for us to try and limit our lil' diva to believeable standards, just as we're sure how hard it is for you other contestants and voters to weigh in on what Layla really does know.

But, seriously, thanks for the comments! Muchos appreciandos!

Mitsaso
01-17-2008, 01:42 PM
Layla has indeed been shown as having specific prediction abilities, but often she has been shown to have general powers of predicting patterns, over-arching possibilities, etc. The idea of her predicting specific missile attacks/ the dance Spiral will use, is, to my mind, stretching her abilities.
Well we don't know exactly how her power works. It could be that she knows everything that is going to happen and only sets up specific stuff that would help it/ avert it, or it could be some little voice inside of her mind that only randomly tells her to do these specific stuff without letting her know what the outcome will be (which I dont think is the case), like, "Let the door open", or "don't let the toilet seat down". In any case, even if it doesn't let her know every single move the enemy will make, it will surely help out with the most basic stuff, either if it's her knowing where the teleporters end up beforehand or the "little voice" tells her how to avoid them. It works both ways.:D


I know Dazzler is a powerful character, but i think absorbing Siryns rather potent sound attack, creating a solid shield and an INFINITE number of laser spikes? It just seems a little bit like Dazzler is being used as a character who should have cost 3 character slots, not 1. absorbing, shielding AND using an attack with "infinite" spikes which could apparantly take out several enemies at once doesnt sit well with me. ( i know you specifically said Dazzler isnt "assumed" to have taken out multiple players, you clearly indicate you think she should have, which i think is unbalanced.

Oh, but Dazzler ain't doing three things at once. She's not shielding anyone, Justice is doing the actual shielding. Dazzler only stores and converts Syrin's sound attack into light, however she wishes to. Every single time she uses her power, she's storing and converting sound into light, so this is no different than any other time she's done it, it's just on a larger scale. The "shielding" is only a sort of added bonus, since nobody can go through these laser spikes without getting hurt, right? So the "absorbing" thing is not an extra power she's using, it's practically what she does everytime she shoots a laser, only this time it's boosted.;)

fitditz
01-17-2008, 02:34 PM
I think the key thing to note is that the other team would have to immediately go on the defensive knowing that Spiral's team is pure offense. Under the same token, it should be predicted that we would have to go immediately into attack for this same reason as if we were to play defensive then we probably wouldn't last long (esp. with Emma on their team as she could easily, 1 by 1, take out the entire team). So the goal was to make the team move and not be caught flat-footed so that she could take an offensive attack.

So a number of things:

-their entire defense strategy is based on the fact that Justice's TK bubble stays intact (and Emma's psi-shields and mindlink with her team). Spiral's spell to negate Justice's telekinesis easily disposes of this TK forcefield (as shown in Avengers Annual #15, Spiral is able to create spells to negate powers with relative ease).

Dismantling this TK bubble easily, the other 4 players who were teleported above the action can implement their attacks. Ahab would fire off his harpoon at Emma and she would immediately go on the defense as to avoid the harpoon.

Provided that Emma does have some psi-link to all of her team, Firestar who has been known to disrupt even Emma's psionic powers, can easily blast one off at her way and throw her off her guard. This opens up the ability of Hybrid to complete his mental attack of Amelia and for Hybrid's harpoons to take their intended course to Emma. Her only recourse now that Amelia is distracted would be to revert to diamond form as the harpoons are rapidly seeking in on her.

The rapidly falling Vanguard and the powerless Justice would force the opposing team to scatter (again they would be on the defensive) as even Siryn and Dazzler's combined lazer would be useless against Vanguard's forcefied which can reflect energy. Again their only choice would be to scatter at which point Spiral's team can take their intended actions.

Layla's precog abilities would also be useless in a battlefield with no Emma to provide the link to the team.

One of the major critiques is age of Frederick Slade. Slade is able to teleport himself and others at will meaning that this does not cause for any physical exertion whatsoever. Justice and the Hoes oversee this and don't think of him as a threat so he is able to perform his teleportation tasks with relative ease. As he is able to teleport large groups and objects, he should have no trouble teleporting the group above Justice and the Hoes, or teleport Layla to and from a close building.

Jackob
01-17-2008, 02:49 PM
wow the hoes of justice had on of the most synced up power sets that ive seen.
with emma sharing lalyas powers with everyone, it makes them very tough.

you got my vote, but i wanted to see the dazzler, siryn, emma, deathstar.

fitditz
01-17-2008, 02:50 PM
Oh forgot one last thing :)

It should be kept in mind that Spiral's opening move is performed at that very time (at the very start) just so that Justice is not able to perform his telekinesis and create a forcefield. Without their opening defense move it breaks down the entire strategy opens up the opportunity of an attack.

Novaya Havoc
01-17-2008, 02:56 PM
Spiral needs to dance to perform complicated dance moves, though, fitsy. Justice's teke would happen sooner, as would Emma's psi-shield.

Spiral is wicked powerful, which is why we neutralized her first.

fitditz
01-17-2008, 02:59 PM
but you don't neutralize her first. you wait for hybrid to toss a harpoon (which of course he wouldn't do if there's a forcefield up). spiral would have time to complete the spell. considering that its only a temporary spell (as shown later that it starts to wear off), its not a complicated one and involves few moves.

Novaya Havoc
01-17-2008, 03:05 PM
I'll play Devil's Advocate and say that Spiral did neutralize Justice's powers. Regardless, Dazzler's laser defense shield would vaporize anyone trying to get through it, and the lasers eminating from it would have still kept the team very well-fortified. Justice's shield is an additional defense barrier.

The only way that would impact our overall strategy is it would leave Sauron and Firestar in the mix, which in that case, our team could deal with them differently.

The sonic-laser defense holds, and really messes with the dynamic. Would Spiral even be able to dance with hundreds lasers and photon beams coming at her?

Even if I agree for the sake of debate that you take out Justice at the outset, he's not one of the key players in the initial phase of the strat.

Mitsaso
01-17-2008, 03:06 PM
Oh forgot one last thing :)

It should be kept in mind that Spiral's opening move is performed at that very time (at the very start) just so that Justice is not able to perform his telekinesis and create a forcefield. Without their opening defense move it breaks down the entire strategy opens up the opportunity of an attack.

Can Spiral perfom the whole dance in, like, a second? No. Which means that:
1:Justice creating the forcefield
2:Slade teleporting the others above the Hoes and
3:Ahab going for Emma with his harpoon

would take place in mere seconds, before Spiral had the time to complete her dance. Therefore, Amelia would teleport Ahab's harpoon in Spiral's gut and take her out BEFORE she depowered Justice. And even if, for some unkown reason, she DID manage to depower Justice, your 4 guys would still be burned by Dazzler's lasers for sure, since the teleported themselves in closest proximity and exactly in the place where her lasers would do the most damage. You said that our entire defense strategy is based on Justices TK bubble, but you forgot about the massive portions of energy pulverising anything close to where the forcefield is supposed to be.

The only move of yours I can see working is Slade teleporting Layla on a house (If he wasn't hit by one of Dazzler's random laser beams), but that would not hurt Layla, so it wouldn't break the mind link with everyone else.

Brian M.
01-17-2008, 03:09 PM
Yea I don't see Spiral taking out Justice's shield before Ahab's harpoon gets stuck in her chest. I think a lot of folks are underestimating Justice's TK since he's not wearing a purple ninja thong or a Phoenix tat. He's a highly talented teke and Spiral's mojo isn't instantaneous. So I think the teleportation attack takes place before the shield can be taken down, since Ahab fires his weapon as soon as he teleports in I think Amelia takes down Spiral way before she gets down Justice's TK shield.

fitditz
01-17-2008, 03:11 PM
but without Justice's TK bubble which is used to protect your team from Dazzlers lazers, your team would be open to injury from her lazers too

Novaya Havoc
01-17-2008, 03:12 PM
but without Justice's TK bubble which is used to protect your team from Dazzlers lazers, your team would be open to injury from her lazers too

Sorry, fitsy. Dazzler has a lot of focus and control over the years. At no point was the teke doubly defending the team from the laser shield -- the laser beams were all moving outward from the defensive laser shield itself.

fitditz
01-17-2008, 03:13 PM
Yea I don't see Spiral taking out Justice's shield before Ahab's harpoon gets stuck in her chest. I think a lot of folks are underestimating Justice's TK since he's not wearing a purple ninja thong or a Phoenix tat. He's a highly talented teke and Spiral's mojo isn't instantaneous. So I think the teleportation attack takes place before the shield can be taken down, since Ahab fires his weapon as soon as he teleports in I think Amelia takes down Spiral way before she gets down Justice's TK shield.
Ahab wouldn't fire off a harpoon without first needing to focus in on who his target would be....if the TK forcefield is still up, he wouldn't launch a harpoon...that would just be idiotic

Diablito
01-17-2008, 03:13 PM
GREAT MATCH!!!

Omg, the Hoes of Justice win. Great strat! Absolutely fab!

fitditz
01-17-2008, 03:14 PM
Sorry, fitsy. Dazzler has a lot of focus and control over the years. At no point was the teke doubly defending the team from the laser shield -- the laser beams were all moving outward from the defensive laser shield itself.
Okay but where does it show that Dazzler is able to create a lazer-beam forcefield? I'm not the Dazzler pro...

Brian M.
01-17-2008, 03:16 PM
Ahab wouldn't fire off a harpoon without first needing to focus in on who his target would be....if the TK forcefield is still up, he wouldn't launch a harpoon...that would just be idiotic

See now your adjusting your strategy in the middle of the match. You don't say that in your strategy so we can't really debate that point.

Novaya Havoc
01-17-2008, 03:16 PM
Ahab wouldn't fire off a harpoon without first needing to focus in on who his target would be....if the TK forcefield is still up, he wouldn't launch a harpoon...that would just be idiotic

From the strat:


There is a chance that Ahab may not draw a spear, but as Ahab relies mostly on his spear as an offensive ability, it is very likely the opposing team will do so. If this is not the other team's case, then the move will instead go:

LAYLA:
Her precognitive abilities predict Spiral's sorcery dance of choice.

The thought of Spiral, her dance, and the effects are transmitted at the speed of thought to Amelia Voght.

AMELIA:
Her line of sight teleportation goes into immediate work. Based on Layla's projection, she transubstantiates Spiral's swords and reforms them directly inside of Hybrid – an enemy they know has regenerative abilities. This wounds him for enough time where he is no longer an immediate threat to our Hoes.

KO:
Spiral (if plan B, Hybrid)
[...]

PLAN B:
If, as in round 1, the team had to focus on Hybrid and not Spiral, the absence of Spiral's weapons weakens her sorcery. A combined team of Namora, Justice, Dazz, and Siryn will outmatch her, as Spiral's well-known overconfidence, Dazzler's knowledge of her tactics, and Spiral's lag-time in needing to perform dances to pull off strong spells will eventually have her downed.

On Dazz:

Dazzler has used laser defense shields late in her solo series run, and has used it more recently (briefly) in New Excalibur.
Now, I will admit she's never done this move on this scale on a printed page, but the possibility is there with a high level of sound, especially given other moves she's pulled off with high levels of sound (flight, melting concrete and steel walls, entering black holes, and all sorts of nasty stuff).


Anyway, I'm gonna bow out for now -- I want to hear voters' comments. Not my windbag-of-a-mouth! :D

Mitsaso
01-17-2008, 03:18 PM
Ahab wouldn't fire off a harpoon without first needing to focus in on who his target would be....if the TK forcefield is still up, he wouldn't launch a harpoon...that would just be idiotic

Actually, he would. Each of Ahab's harpoons is keyed to its target's genetic structure, and cannot be moved or deflected by energy, therefore, Justice's teke field would NOT prevent the harpoon from going for Emma.

Which means that Ahab, knowing the abilities of his harpoons, would go for it anyway, only to be screwed over by Amelia.;)

fitditz
01-17-2008, 03:21 PM
From the strat:



On Dazz:

Dazzler has used laser defense shields late in her solo series run, and has used it more recently (briefly) in New Excalibur.
Now, I will admit she's never done this move on this scale on a printed page, but the possibility is there with a high level of sound, especially given other moves she's pulled off with high levels of sound (flight, melting concrete and steel walls, entering black holes, and all sorts of nasty stuff).


Anyway, I'm gonna bow out for now -- I want to hear voters' comments. Not my windbag-of-a-mouth! :D
So she's never actually created a lazer force field?

fitditz
01-17-2008, 03:22 PM
Actually, he would. Each of Ahab's harpoons is keyed to its target's genetic structure, and cannot be moved or deflected by energy, therefore, Justice's teke field would NOT prevent the harpoon from going for Emma.

Which means that Ahab, knowing the abilities of his harpoons, would go for it anyway, only to be screwed over by Amelia.;)
If the harpoons are tied to the intended's genetic structure, then how can Amelia change the harpoon to focus on another genetic structure?

Askani's Flame
01-17-2008, 03:23 PM
Wow, this is really hard. I am on the fence. I will have to reread the strategies when . Both are phenom!!! I do have to agree with fitditz that Spiral would be able to get her depowerment of Justice before she was taken out, but due her spells last post-being taken out? Because I do still think that Amelia would be able to relocate Ahab's harpoon into Spiral. I need to think on this some more. . . .

Mitsaso
01-17-2008, 03:27 PM
If the harpoons are tied to the intended's genetic structure, then how can Amelia change the harpoon to focus on another genetic structure?
They don't focus in another genetic structure, she just teleports it there and it damages Spiral instead. Teleportation does not "deflect" the harpoon, it would just resume going for Emma from where it teleported, but if it was teleported inside of Spiral, it would hit her instead.


So she's never actually created a lazer force field?
It's not a solid force field, it's a barragge of beams going outwards starting from a specific point so that they would encase our team, protecting them additionally and hurting anyone outside. Dazzler doesn't necessarily create light out of herself, she can create it midway in the air or anywhere else, so it works, teke-forcefield or not.

fitditz
01-17-2008, 03:28 PM
See now your adjusting your strategy in the middle of the match. You don't say that in your strategy so we can't really debate that point.
Its not adjusting the strategy. Immediately after the teleport he first bares down on Emma before firing it off. Nowhere does it state that as soon as the teleport is completed he fires it off.

Brian M.
01-17-2008, 03:30 PM
Its not adjusting the strategy. Immediately after the teleport he first bares down on Emma before firing it off. Nowhere does it state that as soon as the teleport is completed he fires it off.

Regardless of when it's fired, it never hits Emma. The teke shield is either put back up or is never taken down.

Mitsaso
01-17-2008, 03:33 PM
Wow, this is really hard. I am on the fence. I will have to reread the strategies when . Both are phenom!!! I do have to agree with fitditz that Spiral would be able to get her depowerment of Justice before she was taken out, but due her spells last post-being taken out? Because I do still think that Amelia would be able to relocate Ahab's harpoon into Spiral. I need to think on this some more. . . .

Yeah, that's another thing. Spiral goes out one way or another, but even if she managed to depower Justice, doesn't her spell go moot right when she dies/faints? :confused: From what I know about Marvel magicks and temporary spells like this one, this should be the case.

Brian M.
01-17-2008, 03:34 PM
I've already voted so I'll back outta the debate.

Congrats to both teams, both were good strategies.

fitditz
01-17-2008, 03:36 PM
They don't focus in another genetic structure, she just teleports it there and it damages Spiral instead. Teleportation does not "deflect" the harpoon, it would just resume going for Emma from where it teleported, but if it was teleported inside of Spiral, it would hit her instead.


It's not a solid force field, it's a barragge of beams going outwards starting from a specific point so that they would encase our team, protecting them additionally and hurting anyone outside. Dazzler doesn't necessarily create light out of herself, she can create it midway in the air or anywhere else, so it works, teke-forcefield or not.
yeah but the harpoon cannot hit Spiral if it was never fired. Ahab fires the harpoon after Spiral completes her spell, at which point hybrid is already attempting to mentally attack amelia. as emma will need to revert to diamond form to avoid the harpoon she would have to relinquish her psi-shield with the team, placing amelia vulnerable to hybrid's attack and eliminating her teleporting the harpoon

fitditz
01-17-2008, 03:37 PM
Regardless of when it's fired, it never hits Emma. The teke shield is either put back up or is never taken down.
the spell doesn't wear off in one second...it starts to wear off later in the match

Novaya Havoc
01-17-2008, 03:41 PM
So she's never actually created a lazer force field?

I just said she HAS, just not of that magnetude. Here's this from Dazzler #40:

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b41/havoc1/Dazzler/laser_shield.jpg

Sure, Chadwick's art isn't gelling with the description Goodwin was going for ("A dome of laser light"), but that's what we're doing. You can see here Dazzler also notes that this trick really burns up her sound reserves.

But she's supercharged by Siryn. She's created this dome of laser light to vaporize oncoming projectiles, while also eminating laser spikes from it. Not hard to do, given the insane control they've given her over the years, coupled with constant, high-levels of sonic energy fueling her.

I SAID I WOULDN'T COMMENT further, but I see this as an opportunity to plant more "Learn About Dazzler!" seeds. Back to letting others discuss! <3

Mitsaso
01-17-2008, 03:43 PM
yeah but the harpoon cannot hit Spiral if it was never fired. Ahab fires the harpoon after Spiral completes her spell, at which point hybrid is already attempting to mentally attack amelia. as emma will need to revert to diamond form to avoid the harpoon she would have to relinquish her psi-shield with the team, placing amelia vulnerable to hybrid's attack and eliminating her teleporting the harpoon
You never state in your strategy that Ahab waits until Spiral does her spell to do his thing. You have them starting the whole thing at the same second, so I think Ahab taking out his harpoon is a much faster procedure than Spiral completing (even a quick) dance. He doesn't even need to throw his harpoon, as soon as he things "Emma" and it materialises in his hands, Amelia sends it with a lot of love to Spiral's belly.:)

Emma won't need to go in diamond form, because she knows that Amelia's mission is to teleport it away (they're mind-linked, and all). Therefore Hybrid's mental attack is out of the question.

the spell doesn't wear off in one second...it starts to wear off later in the match
Brian M. probably meant that the teke field will go back on when Spiral goes out and Justice is instantly repowered.

The Fury
01-17-2008, 03:48 PM
Both sides have great moves that work well. M&N's defensive stance works well against C&F's attacking.

I do think Spiral can depower Justice but with Dazzler's shield there too helps. But I'm unsure of how powerful her shields are. I'm no expert on her but I've only seen her create small localised shields just to protect from close combat fighting.

Old or not, Slade will teleport, even with the strain on his heart. Which makes me ask about how close tight the shield is.

M&N's move to take out Spiral is good though after, Spiral being one of the most powerful on C&F's team (magic wins alot of battles).

I think most the outcome, comes down to opening actions who does the most damage first, but I'm unsure who does...leaning towards M&N at the moment.

fitditz
01-17-2008, 03:50 PM
I just said she HAS, just not of that magnetude. Here's this from Dazzler #40:

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b41/havoc1/Dazzler/laser_shield.jpg

Sure, Chadwick's art isn't gelling with the description Goodwin was going for ("A dome of laser light"), but that's what we're doing. You can see here Dazzler also notes that this trick really burns up her sound reserves.

But she's supercharged by Siryn. She's created this dome of laser light to vaporize oncoming projectiles, while also eminating laser spikes from it. Not hard to do, given the insane control they've given her over the years, coupled with constant, high-levels of sonic energy fueling her.

I SAID I WOULDN'T COMMENT further, but I see this as an opportunity to plant more "Learn About Dazzler!" seeds. Back to letting others discuss! <3
I would question her ability to 1)create a forcefield that would protect the entire team, 2)one that eminates lazer spikes from it....even with siryns sonic enhancement to her powers. the image shows that creating such a small force field would exhaust her soundwaves that she is able to transmit into light. so with siryns enhancements shes basically creating a lazer force field around anyone and one that eminates lazer spikes...i just think youre stretching her abilities

fitditz
01-17-2008, 03:51 PM
You never state in your strategy that Ahab waits until Spiral does her spell to do his thing. You have them starting the whole thing at the same second, so I think Ahab taking out his harpoon is a much faster procedure than Spiral completing (even a quick) dance. He doesn't even need to throw his harpoon, as soon as he things "Emma" and it materialises in his hands, Amelia sends it with a lot of love to Spiral's belly.:)

Emma won't need to go in diamond form, because she knows that Amelia's mission is to teleport it away (they're mind-linked, and all). Therefore Hybrid's mental attack is out of the question.


Brian M. probably meant that the teke field will go back on when Spiral goes out and Justice is instantly repowered.
hybrids move happens after spiral completes her spell...its in the submission

Jessica Drew
01-17-2008, 03:54 PM
I think both strategies were sound, but I think M & N's defensive double bubble gives them the time they need to get rid of Spiral, and I think the rest of C & F's team trickles down from there.

Novaya Havoc
01-17-2008, 03:54 PM
I would question her ability to 1)create a forcefield that would protect the entire team, 2)one that eminates lazer spikes from it....even with siryns sonic enhancement to her powers. the image shows that creating such a small force field would exhaust her soundwaves that she is able to transmit into light. so with siryns enhancements shes basically creating a lazer force field around anyone and one that eminates lazer spikes...i just think youre stretching her abilities

Aiee! You're going to attract the Dazzler posse in here? They'll even be less diplomatic than I!

Trust me on this, fitz. Dazzler has absorbed Blackbolt's Scream and with it, shorted out the Absorbing Man. She absorbed Klaw, master of sound, burned a hole through a mountain with no effort, and attracted the attention of Galactus in doing so.

She's been in a Black Hole and single-handedly defeated a Herald of Galactus.

All based on her sound. That panel is her operating at normal sound levels (e.g., whatever she can absorb at the moment). A high sonic wail from Siryn would charge Dazzler sufficiently and constantly enough to pull of this trick.

That panel is only there to demonstrate -- since you asked -- that Ali can create protective laser domes, which we do in our strategy.

With a source of intense sound, Dazzler can do a lot. The sound is constant and incredibly intense, it doesn't harm her, and there is no limit to how much sound she can convert into light energy.

Mitsaso
01-17-2008, 03:57 PM
hybrids move happens after spiral completes her spell...its in the submission
^You mean Hybrid or Ahab? I'm now confused:confused:

I would question her ability to 1)create a forcefield that would protect the entire team, 2)one that eminates lazer spikes from it....even with siryns sonic enhancement to her powers. the image shows that creating such a small force field would exhaust her soundwaves that she is able to transmit into light. so with siryns enhancements shes basically creating a lazer force field around anyone and one that eminates lazer spikes...i just think youre stretching her abilities
Not really, Dazzler usually creates great amounts of laser lights using only the relatively tame ambient sounds, like the voices of the people around her, the music, the leaves moving from the wind etc. Now imagine how much light she'd create out of a constant supoersonic sound blast which can scatter a whole legion of people by itself (in X-Factor vol.3 she did that to the entire police force, I think)...I think we're actually having Dazzler do very little, considering the potential that power boost is giving her...

Harlock
01-17-2008, 04:23 PM
Aiee! You're going to attract the Dazzler posse in here? They'll even be less diplomatic than I!

Trust me on this, fitz. Dazzler has absorbed Blackbolt's Scream and with it, shorted out the Absorbing Man. She absorbed Klaw, master of sound, burned a hole through a mountain with no effort, and attracted the attention of Galactus in doing so.

She's been in a Black Hole and single-handedly defeated a Herald of Galactus.

All based on her sound. That panel is her operating at normal sound levels (e.g., whatever she can absorb at the moment). A high sonic wail from Siryn would charge Dazzler sufficiently and constantly enough to pull of this trick.

That panel is only there to demonstrate -- since you asked -- that Ali can create protective laser domes, which we do in our strategy.

With a source of intense sound, Dazzler can do a lot. The sound is constant and incredibly intense, it doesn't harm her, and there is no limit to how much sound she can convert into light energy.

I have to agree here. Mitsaso and Novaya have the edge in this one as far as I am concerned. They did a fantastic job with an offensive defense. Good work, guys!

DeniseXfrost
01-17-2008, 06:42 PM
This is too easy, Mitsaso & Novaya Havoc FTW.

Brett P
01-17-2008, 07:09 PM
I voted Novaya and Mitts.

My only grumble that Layla was perhaps a bit too uber, being given the back up of knowing what Spiral was going to do, if Ahabs spear wasn't coming. I guess it makes sense given the characters abilities but in this setting it's sorta like giving her two moves at once and ALMOST writing the actions of the other teams players. But then I guess it would have failed if neither Ahab or Spiral used those moves, so it was a risk, which I think is a suitable drawback for the move.

But yeah, really impressive strategy! Siryn and Dazzler is a match made in heaven!

Mitsaso
01-17-2008, 07:15 PM
I voted Novaya and Mitts.

My only grumble that Layla was perhaps a bit too uber, being given the back up of knowing what Spiral was going to do, if Ahabs spear wasn't coming. I guess it makes sense given the characters abilities but in this setting it's sorta like giving her two moves at once and ALMOST writing the actions of the other teams players. But then I guess it would have failed if neither Ahab or Spiral used those moves, so it was a risk, which I think is a suitable drawback for the move.

But yeah, really impressive strategy! Siryn and Dazzler is a match made in heaven!

Well, if we had Layla setting up something like in the X-Factor issues, THAT would be actually wirting the actions of the other team players (or some unforeseeable factor we can't really know will occur). The mind link thing is the simplest and most plausible thing that can possibly happen.;)

venuscameback
01-18-2008, 03:45 AM
Excellent strategy from Mitsaso and Novaya. An excellent defensive strategy combined with specific attacks that work to take out the most powerful opposition from a position of safety. Nice work :)

Mitsaso
01-18-2008, 08:35 AM
Three "YAYS" for The Hoes Of Justice!!!
http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/2949/match1smallerwb1.jpg

mattbib
01-18-2008, 11:55 AM
Congratulations, Mitsaso & Novaya Havoc! You advance to Game 12 where you'll face the winner of Game 8 next Thursday, January 24.

Good job, CyberHubbs & fitditz, you move to the lower bracket where next Thursday you'll fight for survival against the loser of Game 8.

Good luck!

fitditz
01-18-2008, 03:10 PM
Congratulations Novaya Havoc and Mitsaso, your strategy was well deserving of a win. Just hope that Cyber and I get the the opportunity for a rematch! :)

Mitsaso
01-18-2008, 04:59 PM
We hope so as well!:)

Your strategy was very cool as well and was also written in an entertaining way, which is always a plus! I hope you do well in the lower bracket so that we might meet in the final in a few weeks time!;)

CyberHubbs
01-18-2008, 05:38 PM
Congrats to both of you!

In retrospect, guess Layla DID see all of that coming. Heh.

worstblogever
01-18-2008, 11:24 PM
Three "YAYS" for The Hoes Of Justice!!!
http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/2949/match1smallerwb1.jpg

Even for Emma, her fun bags are HELLA huge in that art.