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Magneto X
01-17-2008, 08:55 AM
Seems like the X-Books have gone to lengths to establish the many different mutant leaders and their differing visions and tactics. Who do you enjoy seeing the most? Who do you want most to change direction? And what's your dream direction for each:
Mystique:
Scott & Emma:
Exodus:
Magneto:
Xavier:
Scalphunter:
Madrox:
Masque:
Apocalypse:
Cable:
Christopher O
01-17-2008, 08:58 AM
You forgot Storm.
Le Drake
01-17-2008, 09:02 AM
You forgot Storm.
Don't kid yourself mate. She's been demoted since the wedding, much to our chagrin.
Christopher O
01-17-2008, 09:04 AM
Don't kid yourself mate. She's been demoted since the wedding, much to our chagrin.
Yes but Xavier, Magneto, and Apocalypse aren't currently dictating any kind of direction for anyone either. However, Storm has made some very strong decisions with a very specific direction in mind for those following her but just not now--much like those three.
Hi-Fi
01-17-2008, 09:05 AM
Where's Rogue?
This is a farse!
Magneto X
01-17-2008, 09:05 AM
Xavier, Apocalypse and Magneto each can round up dozens of followers just by walking across a bridge and saying "Mutants, follow me!" They are leaders for sure.
I don't see Storm as an actual mutant leader right now. Not Wolverine either, really. They get mad respect, sure. And they may lead some missions, but then again, so might Beast or Surge. Doesn't make them current contenders to lead the mutant-rights movement. Plus they each have other non-mutant duties.
And, you can only have ten options. :o
Christopher O
01-17-2008, 09:06 AM
I don't see Storm as an actual mutant leader right now. Not Wolverine either, really. They may lead some missions, but then again, so might Beast or Surge. Doesn't make them current contenders to lead the mutant-rights movement. Plus, you can only have ten options. :o
Again, Xavier, Magneto, and Apocalypse aren't really mutant leaders at the moment either. Hell, Scalphunter isn't one at all. He's more of the "lead some missions" type.
Hi-Fi
01-17-2008, 09:07 AM
Doesn't make them current contenders to lead the mutant-rights movement.
And Scalphunter is??
Christopher O
01-17-2008, 09:08 AM
And Scalphunter is??
Right??? This thread is off to a shit start. BOYCOTT
Magneto X
01-17-2008, 09:13 AM
And Scalphunter is??
Odd as that sounds, he regularly leads the Marauders, which is more than Storm (as FF member and Queen of Wakanda can say in terms of regularity nowadays) and the Marauders count more mutants than the four or five that Masque has. (Pickins are kind of slim since M Day)
Scalphunter was obviously set up as a competitive leader in CompleX, as noted when he and Mystiqe had their separate followers (the Maurauders distrust of her turned out to be correct).
Plus Scalphunter is the Marauder leader even more so without Sinister. But, yeah, until we see his reaction to that, he's borderline. Then again, we have the Mauraders as an obvious splinter group in terms of tactics and vision, and if Scalphunter doesn't lead them, who does?
Plus folks like Storm, if they are doing mutant work, are pretty clearly in the Scott/Emma camp already. Limited to 10 different visions here. If there was an 11th spot it might be the "enslave and rule" method of Selene and her boys Wither and Sunspot, but we haven't seen her in a while. But putting another X-Men regular doesn't really add a different direction for mutant-kind, unless they have deep disagreements with Scott and Emma's leadership.
So far it seems likely:
Mystique: leads her break-away Mauraders (Malice, Mastermind if she survived, maybe Rogue and Gambit) and is Toad or Avalanche still around? Or Pulse? Bring back Pulse! This brotherhood, or "siblinghood" is pro-mutant rights, okay with killing (expecially humans), and otherwise generally selfish.
Scott & Emma: leads the X-Men (Beast, Wolverine and Storm if around, Nightcrawler, etc) heroes who don't kill
Exodus: leads the the Acolytes (Tempo, Frenzy, etc) with a more violent and dominating vision
Magneto: may take over the Acolytes (does Exodus know he's alive?)
Scalphunter: leads the Mauraders (Arclight, Scrambler, etc), outright anti-human villains
Madrox: leads X-factor investigations in mutant town
Masque: leads the sad Morlock vestiges underground
Apocalypse: has a group of worshipers and can (temporarily it seems) enslave others
Xavier & Cable: both seem lost for now, at least one is likely to get a new following
Luck911
01-17-2008, 09:18 AM
I pick Surge
Magneto X
01-17-2008, 09:26 AM
Man, Mags has such gravitas that all he has to do in Messiah Complex is receive a book from Skids and say "Really?" oh so mysteriously to maintain his top-level props!
Christopher O
01-17-2008, 09:45 AM
Plus folks like Storm, if they are doing mutant work, are pretty clearly in the Scott/Emma camp already. Limited to 10 different visions here. If there was an 11th spot it might be the "enslave and rule" method of Selene and her boys Wither and Sunspot, but we haven't seen her in a while. But putting another X-Men regular doesn't really add a different direction for mutant-kind, unless they have deep disagreements with Scott and Emma's leadership.
Storm is not in the Scott/Emma camp. That's part of the reason she left the team after M-Day. She has different views on how things should be done. She also criticized their decision to remain neutral in the Civil War. Before that, she kept her X-Men separate from the Institute because she didn't agree with what Xavier was doing. She even formed the XSE to address what she perceived to be a need not being met by the Institute team. Yeah, she's back now, but that's because there's a crisis. That doesn't mean she necessarily agrees with Scott and Emma because she doesn't. She's said as much on more than one occasion.
Hi-Fi
01-17-2008, 09:47 AM
Not in Scott/ Emma's camp:
Storm
Madrox
Rogue
Xavier
Madama Butterfly
01-17-2008, 09:54 AM
The Scott & Emma combo already works wonderfully as an X-Men leadership.
Hi-Fi
01-17-2008, 09:57 AM
Scott & Emma: leads the X-Men (Beast, Wolverine and Storm if around, Nightcrawler, etc) heroes who don't kill
Scott kills now. And he's loving it!
Magneto X
01-17-2008, 09:59 AM
Scott kills now. And he's loving it!
Besides Mauraders who (presumably) aren't really killed?
Hmm. If Scott is more of a killer (and Emma certainly could go there), then that opens up a more pacifist approach for Xavier to be in charge of once again.
Brian M.
01-17-2008, 10:29 AM
Did you have to combine Scott and Emma? I can't vote for Scott b/c that means endorsing Emma. I think she's a crap leader. I think Scott is a great leader.
Becuase I can't vote for Scott/Emma I'll vote Cable.
chemicalx
01-17-2008, 10:36 AM
I'm going with charles. It is only recently that all this crap about him started poping up before then he was a great leader/teacher/roll model for mutants and humans
Schuimend Mormel
01-17-2008, 10:36 AM
Odd as that sounds, he regularly leads the Marauders, which is more than Storm (as FF member and Queen of Wakanda can say in terms of regularity nowadays) and the Marauders count more mutants than the four or five that Masque has. (Pickins are kind of slim since M Day)
Scalphunter was obviously set up as a competitive leader in CompleX, as noted when he and Mystiqe had their separate followers (the Maurauders distrust of her turned out to be correct).
Plus Scalphunter is the Marauder leader even more so without Sinister. But, yeah, until we see his reaction to that, he's borderline. Then again, we have the Mauraders as an obvious splinter group in terms of tactics and vision, and if Scalphunter doesn't lead them, who does?Malice. She did it in the late eighties already.
soulkiller
01-17-2008, 10:44 AM
Where's Rogue?
This is a farse!
Totally! :eek: Rogue should be on the list. I vote for her!
rwsmith
01-17-2008, 10:48 AM
Wolverine (as leader of X-Force).
Schuimend Mormel
01-17-2008, 10:51 AM
Wolverine (as leader of X-Force).Like Scalphunter, Wolverine is more of a squad leader, rather than the leader of an actual 'mutant movement'. At least for now, Wolverine and the X-Force will answer to Cyclops.
Magneto X
01-17-2008, 10:59 AM
Like Scalphunter, Wolverine is more of a squad leader, rather than the leader of an actual 'mutant movement'. At least for now, Wolverine and the X-Force will answer to Cyclops.
Yes, Wolverine is taking direction from Scott. And even when he disagrees with Scott, it's likely to be about what he personally does, not creating his own new break away group.
Malice. She did it in the late eighties already.
Yeah, briefly, mostly under Sinister, back in the 80s. But there's no evidence she's leading a break-off mutant group. When the Mauraders have a choice, they follow Scalphunter. They have a choice now. And Malice, like Lady Mastermind, has lately been following the directions of Mystique.
Joe Acro
01-17-2008, 11:09 AM
At one time, I would've said Apocalypse. He wasn't a mutant leader so much as a world shaper, someone guiding mutant and man alike.
As it is, though, I'm going to say Magneto. He's got such charisma that he can even make some X-Men doubt their stance.
Monty_Cristo
01-17-2008, 03:52 PM
i voted for Mystique
DarthCyclopsRLZ
01-17-2008, 03:59 PM
Scott kills now. And he's loving it!
Huh huh. Cause the whole blood vengeance thingy from Adjectiveless #204 went anywhere...?
Oh, you're right. He killed a Sentinel's kneecap or something. :D
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