My little Wolverine Origins #21 review *spoilers*

[Wade_Wilsons_Tailor]

Guh'head and post yours too..


The Dislikes- Wade in his old kill-suit. Seein Logan put a boxing lesson on Wade, Deadpool is a master ninja, that shouldnt happen. I can understand if he got clawed up, but Wade doesn't lose in hand to hand ass whooping showdowns. And it's kind of weird to see Deadpool goin after an X-Man so soon, since right now he's tryin to be a somewhat of a good guy. But I don't even know if this story is suppose to be in Wolverines past or if it's happening in real-comic time. You know? As for Deadpool's hallucinations, lol some funny s#$% (wich is why I should also add this to one of the positive things about this issue) but are the hallucinations just Deadpool being Deadpool? Or has someone f#$%ed with his head again thats forcin him to do this? Like when he got brain-f*cked to kill baby Cable in Cable and Deadpool? Deadpool kinda looked like a grandpa freddy krueger, but I can really live with that, now I'm just nitpicking..

The f#@$ing awesome- Wade and his use of ninja-stars with explosives in em, Wade and his use of grenades, Wade and his use of Turkey-Bombs. That was some of most brutal and awesome scenarios ever. That s#$% rocked so f#$%ing hard, that pieces of paint were chipping off my bedroom walls and roof while I was reading that. And of course Wade payin some construction workers to drop a Piano on Wolverines head. Deadpool hallucinating Wolverine as a scared little man with a tiny, tinsy, little cowboy hat on. lol I love it..good stuff. And they curse in this book, that's pretty f$#%in awesome. I mean they censor it with this "$#%" but I mean, you still know what they're saying. Foul mouths are always awesome, and since Deadpool is a bad ass and is awesome, I can see him enjoying a few F-Bombs, a few shiezers, and what not. Nothin to excessive, but you know, Deadpool is a bad ass ninja mercenary. You know, I always imagined Weasel would be a potty mouth. Anyways let me see, what else...Yeah I think that about does it. Wasn't as bad as I thought it was gonna be.

Things I'd hope to see in Way/Dillion's Deadpool- Brutal sword and gun action. Deadpool drawn in his modern kill-suit, ninja hoody with his harness and all. Some swift martial arts. More use of explosions, havent really seen him use his nades and C4 since the first Cable and Deadpool and in that scene where he blew up the Great Lake Avengers. But yeah, would be pretty sweet to see this, pretty awesome indeed.

All in all I can't wait to place my order for Deadpool's solo series.

[Deadpooligan]

The costume change isn't such a big deal. I did kind of enjoy this issue. Way's Deadpool is way off (ha ha) on the dialogue, but I thought the elevator scene was quite humorous.

And Wolverine should never ever ever ever be able to beat Deadpool in a fight. He kind of pulled it off convincingly this time though, but just barely.

The ish pales in comparison to today's C&DP though, who'd debate that really?

I think Way has a thing for his mercenaries ditching there costumes and assaulting medical personnel. This strikes a familiar twang with me in Punisher VS Bullseye.

[Brian M.]

Anything in there about Bob or Agency X?

[Red Lotus]

I hope this isn't how Way is going to write Deadpool in the ongoing. It felt all wrong to me. But then again I did read this after reading Cable and Deadpool 49.

[Wade_Wilsons_Tailor]

The costume change isn't such a big deal.

lol See, to me the costume is a huge deal. The more cool and modern Wade looks the more cool visual-character he has for me.

As for Way's dialouge, it's no Fabian, and yeah, some of it seemed off, but when I went back to read all of Deadpool's solo books, I remember I had to deal with some of the crappier of writters. So I got use to seein the book being tipped on it's side between issues. It sucked, but I can remember goin through issues that were worse then this. But yeah, it's gonna be weird seein Deadpool without Fabian. Hopefully what it lacks in humor, will be made up for in beat downs and all out ninja mercenary madness.

Anything in there about Bob or Agency X?

Not a thing, I hope when they start on Deadpool's solo that they don't get left behind.

[Deadpooligan]

lol See, to me the costume is a huge deal. The more cool and modern Wade looks the more cool visual-character he has for me.

As for Way's dialouge, it's no Fabian, and yeah, some of it seemed off, but when I went back to read all of Deadpool's solo books, I remember I had to deal with some of the crappier of writters. So I got use to seein the book being tipped on it's side between issues. It sucked, but I can remember goin through issues that were worse then this. But yeah, it's gonna be weird seein Deadpool without Fabian. Hopefully what it lacks in humor, will be made up for in beat downs and all out ninja mercenary madness.

Deadpool's had that classic costume forever, and the new on doesn't really deviate too much from it. A pair of tweaks down the road, first with Zircher, then with Reilly Brown.

IMO, Deadpool's only had one crappy writer, and that was Palmiotti. And even he had a better grip on the dialogue than Way.

Everybody else was pure awesome, really. The Priest run holds a special place in my heart, specifically.

I don't read Deadpool for the all-out-balls-to-the-wall ninja action. I read it for the quips and jokes and 4th wall breaks. It's what made him better than your generic 90's anti-hero.

[JmH Reborn]

And Wolverine should never ever ever ever be able to beat Deadpool in a fight. He kind of pulled it off convincingly this time though, but just barely.


Ha's, that's a great line. Deadpool should never be able to beat Wolverine. Deadpool is all but a failed attempt at re-creating the original. It's funny someone would even think that Deadpool is Wolverine's equal.

All in all, the was a pretty terrible issue, I mean what was the story? Just a waste of comic space...and Dillon I think pulled off the impossible, he made a maskless Wade Wilson STILL look like everyone else...that's pretty impressive I guess

[Deadpooligan]

Ha's, that's a great line. Deadpool should never be able to beat Wolverine. Deadpool is all but a failed attempt at re-creating the original. It's funny someone would even think that Deadpool is Wolverine's equal.

All in all, the was a pretty terrible issue, I mean what was the story? Just a waste of comic space...and Dillon I think pulled off the impossible, he made a maskless Wade Wilson STILL look like everyone else...that's pretty impressive I guess

That's actually not all that much of an exaggeration.

You've clearly not read Wolverine #88, Deadpool #27, or any other issue where they've fought before. Deadpool has proven a half-dozen times that he's Wolverine's superior in combat. In fact, DP made him look like a joke on the above pair of occasions.

But that's neither here nor there.

[Kusanagi]

ugh not feeling Way's Deadpool too much. Got a few chuckles, but then he went completely looney toons. It's especially noticeable when the latest Fabian issue comes out the same day.

The action wasn't bad, really when it comes to Wolvie/Deadpool fights they're generally close with Deadpool getting the win more often than not, so nothing ooc here.

[JmH Reborn]

That's actually not all that much of an exaggeration.

You've clearly not read Wolverine #88, Deadpool #27, or any other issue where they've fought before. Deadpool has proven a half-dozen times that he's Wolverine's superior in combat. In fact, DP made him look like a joke on the above pair of occasions.

But that's neither here nor there.

In Deadpool #27, I remember Wolverine having the one up on Deadpool, sure Deadpool battles a little more erratic, doesn't make him better. So yeah, Deadpool didn't come out of that fight the victor.

And in Wolverine #88, Wolverine was without his healing factor and still fought Wade pretty evenly until Wad got him with two swords through the lungs. I wouldn't really say that should be your basis for the ridiculous claim that Logan can never beat Wade.

And in the more recent showdown in Cable/Deadpool featuring Wolverine, Wolverine pretty handily took down Deadpool...

So maybe you should re-read the issues your citing.

[Wade_Wilsons_Tailor]

Deadpool's had that classic costume forever, and the new on doesn't really deviate too much from it. A pair of tweaks down the road, first with Zircher, then with Reilly Brown.

IMO, Deadpool's only had one crappy writer, and that was Palmiotti. And even he had a better grip on the dialogue than Way.

Everybody else was pure awesome, really. The Priest run holds a special place in my heart, specifically.

I don't read Deadpool for the all-out-balls-to-the-wall ninja action. I read it for the quips and jokes and 4th wall breaks. It's what made him better than your generic 90's anti-hero.

Those tweaks did wonders if you ask me. Udon gave him that first sleek look, they even managed to make Taskmaster look like a bad ass merc too, and that says alot. I mean Tasky looked like skeletor from He-Man before Udon got ahold of him. Plus Tasky has one of the coolest abilities in the entire Marvel Universe....and the whole time they had him lookin like a haunted mid-evil dungon guard or some s#$%. He looked like he belonged in Lord of the Rings or somthing. If it wasn't for that Udon mini-series, I would give 2 s#$%'s about Taskmaster lol.

But Udon made Deadpool visual goodness, Zircher made him a visual god, and even Lim and Johnson gave him a bad ass modern look while Reilly hands down has the most original Deadpool ever.

lol But yeah, we're opposite Deadpool fans. I love a cool lookin Wade doin acrobatic kill moves and I love him blowin s#$% up while bein a smart ass and funny about it. I like him showin his strategic abilities and his observations as a soldier. I was takin a dump a couple days ago, was reading the Civil War C&D, and Fabian gave a good example in a panel where Deadpool's narrative said, "Cable's jaw unclinches a little bit, now lets see if thats a good thing or a bad thing." - Little s#$% like that, that shows that Wade isn't just a goofy guy with guns. But a Merc that even at times he may seem stupid, he does pay attention to detail and the little things when in battle. Little shit like that blows my mind, and makes me love the character. Like when Taskmaster was fleeing from Ironman, Tasky knew he couldn't beat Ironman, so Tasky shot a security guard between vital organs, made Ironman think the innocent dude was gonna die, and said "You can either help the guard, or try to capture me."....Tasky escaped. B-A-D A-S-S.

All in all, I like Deadpool as what he's suppose to be, a soldier. Whether he's a mercenary, gettin hired by good or bad guys, or when he's threatening the innocent when he is out numbered or over powered etc etc lol, I love my Deadpool just like that. Or even if he's gettin turned into a good guy I'm ok with that now, just aslong as he doesn't stop kickin mega-ass and makin jokes.

[Kusanagi]

In Deadpool #27, I remember Wolverine having the one up on Deadpool, sure Deadpool battles a little more erratic, doesn't make him better. So yeah, Deadpool didn't come out of that fight the victor.

And in Wolverine #88, Wolverine was without his healing factor and still fought Wade pretty evenly until Wad got him with two swords through the lungs. I wouldn't really say that should be your basis for the ridiculous claim that Logan can never beat Wade.

And in the more recent showdown in Cable/Deadpool featuring Wolverine, Wolverine pretty handily took down Deadpool...

So maybe you should re-read the issues your citing. To be fair in issue 27 Deadpool was kind of having a serious psychotic episode, I mean serious even for him, and he was still giving a good fight...till he got distracted...

[Wade_Wilsons_Tailor]

Ha's, that's a great line. Deadpool should never be able to beat Wolverine. Deadpool is all but a failed attempt at re-creating the original. It's funny someone would even think that Deadpool is Wolverine's equal.

All in all, the was a pretty terrible issue, I mean what was the story? Just a waste of comic space...and Dillon I think pulled off the impossible, he made a maskless Wade Wilson STILL look like everyone else...that's pretty impressive I guess

Deadpool should be able to, and he can lol. But since Wolverine is like Marvel's version of superman...It probably won't happen that often. Now I don't think they can kill eachother, but they can make eachother bleed enough to escape or to get what it is they want.

A few clips from a couple sub-machine guns from a distance, a couple explosive traps, a few grenade tosses later, a couple throwing knives, finish it up with a couple pokes with simultaneous katanas, and bam! Wolvie is down for the count. ;)

[JmH Reborn]

Deadpool should be able to, and he can lol. But since Wolverine is like Marvel's version of superman...It probably won't happen that often. Now I don't think they can kill eachother, but they can make eachother bleed enough to escape or to get what it is they want.

A few clips from a couple sub-machine guns from a distance, a couple explosive traps, a few grenade tosses later, a couple throwing knives, finish it up with a couple pokes with simultaneous katanas, and bam! Wolvie is down for the count. ;)


And yet you think Deadpool is the only character with the abilities to play at that level?

[JmH Reborn]

To be fair in issue 27 Deadpool was kind of having a serious psychotic episode, I mean serious even for him, and he was still giving a good fight...till he got distracted...

Yet people are citing Wolverine #88, where Wolverine was w/o his mutant ability that Wade inherits? He still gave Deadpool a good fight, metal less and healing factor less.

Lets be fair here, can't have one w/o the other. Deadpool will always be a crazy lunatic, so for me that's normal fighting style.

[Liberty Belle Fan]

Seein Logan put a boxing lesson on Wade, Deadpool is a master ninja, that shouldnt happen.

Agreed, but considering the way they write Wolverine these days and the fact that he's in everything Marvel puts out other than Iron Man & Power Pack....are you surprised?

a few shiezers, and what not.

LOL

All in all I can't wait to place my order for Deadpool's solo series.

I'm passing on this Wolverine Origins arc until they do get a Deadpool solo started up. Once they do, I will never miss an issue.

[Wade_Wilsons_Tailor]

To be fair in issue 27 Deadpool was kind of having a serious psychotic episode, I mean serious even for him, and he was still giving a good fight...till he got distracted...

Yeah the whole point of that issue was that Wade had to feel as much pain as possible to snap him back into reality, cause he was having hallucinations of bunny rabbits and was going crazy lol

Thats why he kept telling Wolverine to "SNIKT" him, and when Wolverine said "F#$% off Wilson," Deadpool uppercutted Kitty, to ensure that Wolverine would fight.

When Wolverine impales Wade, he was all like "I feel so much better now."


...So that doesn't count lol. Deadpool's whole motive for that fight was to lose anyway

[Deadpooligan]

In Deadpool #27, I remember Wolverine having the one up on Deadpool, sure Deadpool battles a little more erratic, doesn't make him better. So yeah, Deadpool didn't come out of that fight the victor.

And in Wolverine #88, Wolverine was without his healing factor and still fought Wade pretty evenly until Wad got him with two swords through the lungs. I wouldn't really say that should be your basis for the ridiculous claim that Logan can never beat Wade.

And in the more recent showdown in Cable/Deadpool featuring Wolverine, Wolverine pretty handily took down Deadpool...

So maybe you should re-read the issues your citing.

RE-READ?! AND POSSIBLY DEPRECIATE THE VALUE OF THE BOOKS FOR WHEN THE ESSENTIAL TRADES EVENTUALLY COME OUT? Oh man, you really had me scared there for a second.

But nay! Deadpool totally won #27. He made Wolverine go berserk, KO'd Kitty Pryde, and even gutted Wolverine with his own pair of claws. I'd call it a victory, even if DP got cleaved at the end, but it was totally circumstantial.

We'll see if Wolverine can survive against Squirrel Girl or Taskmaster before he's in Deadpool's league.

When Wolverine impales Wade, he was all like "I feel so much better now."

He "had a breakthrough". *sting*

[Wade_Wilsons_Tailor]

Agreed, but considering the way they write Wolverine these days and the fact that he's in everything Marvel puts out other than Iron Man & Power Pack....are you surprised?



LOL



I'm passing on this Wolverine Origins arc until they do get a Deadpool solo started up. Once they do, I will never miss an issue.

True, Wolvie is like a one man army sometimes, it's kind of rediculous lol

After this arc, the same people are makin a Deadpool solo. So here's to that -insert cold beverage here-

[JmH Reborn]

RE-READ?! AND POSSIBLY DEPRECIATE THE VALUE OF THE BOOKS FOR WHEN THE ESSENTIAL TRADES EVENTUALLY COME OUT? Oh man, you really had me scared there for a second.

But nay! Deadpool totally won #27. He made Wolverine go berserk, KO'd Kitty Pryde, and even gutted Wolverine with his own pair of claws. I'd call it a victory, even if DP got cleaved at the end, but it was totally circumstantial.

We'll see if Wolverine can survive against Squirrel Girl or Taskmaster before he's in Deadpool's league.



He "had a breakthrough". *sting*

Taskmaster? He's a joke...he was beat down by a 6th rate Wolvy villian. Squirrel Girl is as useless of a character as they come

When Deadpool can match up with Hulk then he'll be in Wolvy's league

Deadpool comics are about as valuable as the latest Liefield epic, but you already knew that right!

[JmH Reborn]

Yeah the whole point of that issue was that Wade had to feel as much pain as possible to snap him back into reality, cause he was having hallucinations of bunny rabbits and was going crazy lol

Thats why he kept telling Wolverine to "SNIKT" him, and when Wolverine said "F#$% off Wilson," Deadpool uppercutted Kitty, to ensure that Wolverine would fight.

When Wolverine impales Wade, he was all like "I feel so much better now."


...So that doesn't count lol. Deadpool's whole motive for that fight was to lose anyway

So what's the excuse for the latest Cable/Deadpool issue where he loses to Wolverine?

Oh let me guess...Bob distracted him?

[Deadpooligan]

Taskmaster? He's a joke...he was beat down by a 6th rate Wolvy villian. Squirrel Girl is as useless of a character as they come

When Deadpool can match up with Hulk then he'll be in Wolvy's league

Deadpool comics are about as valuable as the latest Liefield epic, but you already knew that right!

Anakin, you're breaking my heart!

You must hate fun, JmH. No Taskmaster love? No Squirrel Girl love? Take another coupla' steps down that path to Anaconda and Flatman, and Nyssane will totally break you.

And Deadpool did match up with the Hulk! Kinda. The both didn't have healing factors at the time though. DP skewered him with a street sign.

[killerbass]

I don't read Deadpool for the all-out-balls-to-the-wall ninja action. I read it for the quips and jokes and 4th wall breaks. It's what made him better than your generic 90's anti-hero.

You know Deadpooligan, it's amazing how much we think alike.

I almost always agree with you.

What he said above. Quoted for truth. I like Ike. Face front! Enchilada...

--Tom

[Kusanagi]

So what's the excuse for the latest Cable/Deadpool issue where he loses to Wolverine?

Oh let me guess...Bob distracted him? What loss? More to the point what fight. Deadpool tries to make peace, Wolvie takes him out. Deadpool comes back and points out that he was right and wolvy was wrong.

As for not taking wolvie's villains um Sabretooth and Kane don't count now? Cause he's got a winning record against both.

And by wolvie hanging with the hulk? You mean annoying him and getting punched out right? Cause Deadpool's done that in the Joe Kelly run.

[JmH Reborn]

Anakin, you're breaking my heart!

You must hate fun, JmH. No Taskmaster love? No Squirrel Girl love? Take another coupla' steps down that path to Anaconda and Flatman, and Nyssane will totally break you.

And Deadpool did match up with the Hulk! Kinda. The both didn't have healing factors at the time though. DP skewered him with a street sign.

I like fun...I sorta like Deadpool...sometimes he just annoys me.

And Taskmaster...I really hate him...he's such a waste, everybody thinks he's the be all, end all of fighters. He isn't self trained, he's a copycat...I can't stand Taskmaster and just wish he just died forever.

[JmH Reborn]

What loss? More to the point what fight. Deadpool tries to make peace, Wolvie takes him out. Deadpool comes back and points out that he was right and wolvy was wrong.

As for not taking wolvie's villains um Sabretooth and Kane don't count now? Cause he's got a winning record against both.

And by wolvie hanging with the hulk? You mean annoying him and getting punched out right? Cause Deadpool's done that in the Joe Kelly run.

Wolverine has one true lost to Hulk and that was in the recent WWH tie in...if Deadpool can replicate the performance Wolverine showed in Hulk #340 and Wolverine #145, then we'll talk.

Kane? A Wolverine villian? I wouldn't call him that now...

[killerbass]

Deadpool comics are about as valuable as the latest Liefield epic, but you already knew that right!

Personal tirades aside, the solo Deadpool series of the 1990s is worth more that your typical X-comic from the same time period. And it's a lot harder to find than most other comics of the same time period...

Serenity now,
Tom

[Nyssane]

Not a thing, I hope when they start on Deadpool's solo that they don't get left behind.

That's my biggest fear -- they'll give a new ongoing to Deadpool and forget all about the events in Cable & Deadpool and his bond with Cable, Weasel, Bob, Agency X, etc. I don't think I could read a Deadpool series without Bob, Agent of HYDRA.

[Kusanagi]

Wolverine has one true lost to Hulk and that was in the recent WWH tie in...if Deadpool can replicate the performance Wolverine showed in Hulk #340 and Wolverine #145, then we'll talk.

Kane? A Wolverine villian? I wouldn't call him that now... Wolvie 145, was amped by Apocalypse and still lost. He only hurt the hulk cause the hulk impaled himself on his claws.

Incredible Hulk 340 was grey hulk and while it was an awesome comic, no one's going to confuse one of the weaker hulks with some unstoppable powerhouse.

We could also point out wolvie's first appearance where he got knocked out by one solid hit from the Hulk. :p

I love Wolvie and Deadpool, there pretty damn even and their fights show it.

[JmH Reborn]

Personal tirades aside, the solo Deadpool series of the 1990s is worth more that your typical X-comic from the same time period. And it's a lot harder to find than most other comics of the same time period...

Serenity now,
Tom

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[Kusanagi]

wow wish I had $200 to blow :(

[CMBMOOL]

I wonder how the issue was in DEADPOOL-VISION because that is what made this issue worth it beside Deadpool's 'normal' narrative moments. :p

[JmH Reborn]

wow wish I had $200 to blow :(


Sorry bro,

I will say, it is a bit higher than I anticipated. The bin with about 80 issues or so does seem a bit over priced. The average price in that bin is about 4.43, so it may have a little value

[Hakael]

I like fun...I sorta like Deadpool...sometimes he just annoys me.

And Taskmaster...I really hate him...he's such a waste, everybody thinks he's the be all, end all of fighters. He isn't self trained, he's a copycat...I can't stand Taskmaster and just wish he just died forever.

Hey hey hey!
No berating Tasky!

If you think he's a waste, you should check out what he did to Yellowjacket, Ant-Man (the irredeemable one) and Stature in one of the more recent Avengers: Initiative issues... Teaches all the youngin's how to take out pym particle junkies with style and class.

Also, Deadpool should be able to best Wolverine in a fight. Deadpool's healing factor almost always outperforms Logan's, and he's deadly with a wide variety of guns, explosives, and pointy things. The only reason why Logan ever wins is because Wade is Wade, and he jokes around too much during the fight. Logan is all business and he gets the job done.

I liked this issue of Origins (I never thought I would ever type that... ever)
Way doesn't have my favorite interpretation of Deadpool, and I'm not a fan of Dillon, but this looks like it will at least be serviceable. So long as they bring Weasel along, and hopefully some other members of the supporting cast, you can't count me in for a Deadpool ongoing.

[sifon]

maybe it was just me, but this issue ended pretty abruptly...seemed short as hell. Then i realized there were way too many panels of just sound effects and no dialogue.....i hope the deadpool solo isnt like that.....i finished reading this one wayyyy too quickly.

i thought ways deadpool was okay.....it wouldnt make me stop reading deadpool, but it still doesnt make m every happy :confused:

its like im an abused wife

[Lanowar]

"The Deadpool vision" was annoying it felt like for research Way read Deadpool #27 (where Deadpool fought Wolverine and he kept seeing things) and went "That's clearly what he see's" and decided to roll with it. The slapstickness was amusing but all the guys look the same thanks to Dillion's art.

Also I noticed Deadpool no longer seems to be talking in yellow speech bubbles, not quite sure what that is about, since every other writer whose done Deadpool seemed able to do it.

All on all if your not reading Cable & Deadpool it's a good issue but if you read C&D it's subpar compared to Cable & Deadpool.

[DeadXMan]

duck.
wolvie: duck?
Wade: goose.
Boom

'kay I now have faith in Way and his DP book

still C&D was the better of the deadpool goodness

[ivesaidway2much]

Also I noticed Deadpool no longer seems to be talking in yellow speech bubbles, not quite sure what that is about, since every other writer whose done Deadpool seemed able to do it.

All on all if your not reading Cable & Deadpool it's a good issue but if you read C&D it's subpar compared to Cable & Deadpool.I'll give Way a break on Deadpool's dialogue for a couple of arcs. All you have to do is look at the way the rest of the X-writers ran like scared little girls from the prospect of including 'pool in any of their crossovers to realize that he's probably one of the hardest (if not the hardest) solo characters to write in Marvel.

[Liberty Belle Fan]

So for those of you that read this issue, would you recommend this issue to a Deadpool fan?

I'm not too hot on the Wolverine titles atm, and I'd like to pick it up for the arc, but only if its truly worth seeing Deadpool doing what he does best.

[Wade_Wilsons_Tailor]

So for those of you that read this issue, would you recommend this issue to a Deadpool fan?

I'm not too hot on the Wolverine titles atm, and I'd like to pick it up for the arc, but only if its truly worth seeing Deadpool doing what he does best.

Depends on what kind of DP fan you are, if you like him being more on the goofy side without as much action, then this book isn't your type of DP.

But if you like DP blowin s#$% up, with mediocre dialouge. You'll be able to bare with it, if not enjoy this issue.

But reguardless, it's Deadpool. I can seriously never have enough Deadpool, you could tell me a 3 year old is writtin his stories but on the flip side, Zircher is drawing...I'd still pick it up lol.

[Wade_Wilsons_Tailor]

I'll give Way a break on Deadpool's dialogue for a couple of arcs. All you have to do is look at the way the rest of the X-writers ran like scared little girls from the prospect of including 'pool in any of their crossovers to realize that he's probably one of the hardest (if not the hardest) solo characters to write in Marvel.

And that pisses me off, I personally wouldn't mind at all seeing Wade cut his dialouge down so he can ultimately fit on panels with other big characters. Just as long as the little dialouge he has stays true to his character. One liners, the smart ass remarks when he's fighting, the sarcastic patronizing, all the offensive and insensitive things he can say, it can all be shortened up and still stay true to Wade's character. In some cases you don't even need Deadpool to fill up the dialouge, just cut to another panel where one of the bad guys says somthin like "that guy in red and black won't shut the f@#$ up and won't stop shooting us." You know? Just aslong as it ultimately stay's true to Wade's style.

[matthewaos]

If you like Deadpool in action blowing stuff, but also enjoy the fun of it, is this issue worth?

[Mort]

Way said in some of the interviews he didn't want Deadpool to be out-and-out goofy all the time because that took away from him as a character, so just to completely mess things up he has Wade drop a piano on Wolverine.

I'm not looking forward to the Deadpool sole series

[pharoahe22]

Guh'head and post yours too..


The Dislikes- Wade in his old kill-suit. Seein Logan put a boxing lesson on Wade, Deadpool is a master ninja, that shouldnt happen. I can understand if he got clawed up, but Wade doesn't lose in hand to hand ass whooping showdowns. And it's kind of weird to see Deadpool goin after an X-Man so soon, since right now he's tryin to be a somewhat of a good guy. But I don't even know if this story is suppose to be in Wolverines past or if it's happening in real-comic time. You know? As for Deadpool's hallucinations, lol some funny s#$% (wich is why I should also add this to one of the positive things about this issue) but are the hallucinations just Deadpool being Deadpool? Or has someone f#$%ed with his head again thats forcin him to do this? Like when he got brain-f*cked to kill baby Cable in Cable and Deadpool? Deadpool kinda looked like a grandpa freddy krueger, but I can really live with that, now I'm just nitpicking..

The f#@$ing awesome- Wade and his use of ninja-stars with explosives in em, Wade and his use of grenades, Wade and his use of Turkey-Bombs. That was some of most brutal and awesome scenarios ever. That s#$% rocked so f#$%ing hard, that pieces of paint were chipping off my bedroom walls and roof while I was reading that. And of course Wade payin some construction workers to drop a Piano on Wolverines head. Deadpool hallucinating Wolverine as a scared little man with a tiny, tinsy, little cowboy hat on. lol I love it..good stuff. And they curse in this book, that's pretty f$#%in awesome. I mean they censor it with this "$#%" but I mean, you still know what they're saying. Foul mouths are always awesome, and since Deadpool is a bad ass and is awesome, I can see him enjoying a few F-Bombs, a few shiezers, and what not. Nothin to excessive, but you know, Deadpool is a bad ass ninja mercenary. You know, I always imagined Weasel would be a potty mouth. Anyways let me see, what else...Yeah I think that about does it. Wasn't as bad as I thought it was gonna be.

Things I'd hope to see in Way/Dillion's Deadpool- Brutal sword and gun action. Deadpool drawn in his modern kill-suit, ninja hoody with his harness and all. Some swift martial arts. More use of explosions, havent really seen him use his nades and C4 since the first Cable and Deadpool and in that scene where he blew up the Great Lake Avengers. But yeah, would be pretty sweet to see this, pretty awesome indeed.

All in all I can't wait to place my order for Deadpool's solo series.

I agree with most of what you said man..but let's not forget, Wolverine is a master of just about every form of h2h and he's got more experience than Wade. If there's anyone in the MU who can fight Deadpool h2h and win it's Logan. I give Logan a slight edge in h2h. I'd say only Logan, Iron Fist, Captain America, and Winter Soldier...those are the only ones on Deadpool's level in h2h.

[Red Lotus]

I'll give Way a break on Deadpool's dialogue for a couple of arcs. All you have to do is look at the way the rest of the X-writers ran like scared little girls from the prospect of including 'pool in any of their crossovers to realize that he's probably one of the hardest (if not the hardest) solo characters to write in Marvel.

For this arc maybe. But since he is Deadpool new writer that is a little bit troublesome

[_Jayme_]

I think it was a decent issue. Deadpool was really the only thing that got me to pick this issue up, cause I hardly ever pick up Wolverine: Origins.

[Wade_Wilsons_Tailor]

I think it was a decent issue. Deadpool was really the only thing that got me to pick this issue up, cause I hardly ever pick up Wolverine: Origins.


Yeah I gotta clear that up, the way Deadpool was handled in this issue was barable, it's not C&DP status what so ever. Everything from the visuals to the dialouge did give you a sense of a different Deadpool all together. The visuals seemed to be a step backwards, the dialouge (I've been sayin dialogue alot, I don't know why but that has kind of wierded me out, "DIALOUGE," THE WORD OF THE F#$%IN MONTH.) anyways, the dialouge is way different then what you're use to seeing, so all in all this Deadpool is completely different then what you're use to seeing him as.

But the action is what kept this certain issue alive, of course we'd love Fabian to stay on this book, and of course those few of us who like awesome visuals would want more agile art, but I think it's safe to say that concept is what this new movement on DP is going to be about.


I already miss Fabian, I already miss my modern looking Deadpool, and I really do wish Deadpool's character would continue to be built on his new found confidence, as oppose to keeping him as that reluctant hero that Way wants to keep him as. I was against Deadpool being a hero, I hated the thought of DP selling out like that, I litterally loved him as anti-hero and mercenary...But Fabian litterally blew my mind with Wade moving forward as oppose to being that sad killer clown. I mean I'm 24 years old, and the way Deadpool as a COMIC book character has developed, it has litterally kept me intrigued to the point where I'm confused....Should, or shouldn't I kick my own ass for gettin this obessessed with a comic book character!? I'm litterally at some crossroads right now..lol



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To sum it all up, this Deadpool is slightly off-track from his current trajectory, but this is a comic book, not a prime-time TV show. From the little I know, this type of shit happens in Comics all the time. Everyone bitches about artists, everyone bitches about writters. You get spoiled with a good direction from a certain writter and artist, but that writter and artist have to move on and hand the job off to some new guys.

Just keep voicin your oppinions on how shit is goin so the newer guys that replace the newer guys will have just that little bit more input on what the fans want.

And if you got problems with artist and writers, try writtin somthin and drawin somthin and I bet you'll respect em after that. Drawin g is f#$%ing hard, I mean every time I try to draw a f#$%ing fore-arm it comes out looking like a aligator tail...the s#$% is brutal, I can probably draw better arms if I stuck the pencil in my ass cheeks and wiggled my hipps..

EDIT...THIS MESSAGE IS F#$%ING HUGE, AND IT WASNT PROOF READ

[Sentinel K]

Dude, if you're gonna use the word 'dialogue' so much, at least spell it right.
;)

[Wade_Wilsons_Tailor]

HEY F@#$ YOU BUDDY!


...its 6am and I think I'e drank more vodka then my body stores blood, seriously, I think I can stare through walls

[Luck911]

I looks interesting i will probably pick it up

As for wolverine should lose to Deadpool in skill martial art fight.I like deadpool at alot but i would bet my money on the man who has a century of fighting experience and was trained in martial arts by Ogun and the Hand.Wolverine should be way more skilled than deadpool but writers like to fall back on the berserk wolvie so you don't see the skill.

[HOLD DAT]

Well they are both extremely skilled fighters. If i read a book and see Wade win a fight with logan or the other way around i can live with that.

they both have the skills to take it to each other. it's all about who happens to be better on that day. And seeing how they've tangled before, wolvie getting a win shouldnt be that big of a deal.

My only ? is what the hell does wade have to do with wolverine's origins?

[Disgruntled1]

The Dislikes- Seein Logan put a boxing lesson on Wade, Deadpool is a master ninja, that shouldnt happen. I can understand if he got clawed up, but Wade doesn't lose in hand to hand ass whooping showdowns.1) Even if Wade is a ninja master, Wolverine is a ninja Grandmaster. Wolverine was trained for years by Ogun, a ninja sorceror/samurai with a thousand years of experience, and Wolverine also lived for over 5 years in a ninja villiage, training and learning their arts the entire time. So = Ninja Wolvy >>> Ninja Wade.
2) Ninjas specialize in assassination and stealth, not man to man combat, which is something Wolverine does also specialize in. So as a ninja Wade has no advantage if Wolverine starts throwing fists.
3) On a whole Pool is not as good a combatant as Wolverine. Wolverine knows everything Wade knows and a whole lot more. Wolverine has also been fighting for over 1/2 a century longer than Wade. Wolverine also relies more on actual combat than Wade, who employs any number of different weapons and devices as a crutch.
And Wolverine should never ever ever ever be able to beat Deadpool in a fight. He kind of pulled it off convincingly this time though, but just barely.He pulled it off convincingly because Wolverine should usually beat Deadpool in a straight 1 on 1 fight.
That's actually not all that much of an exaggeration. You've clearly not read Wolverine #88, Deadpool #27, or any other issue where they've fought before.Wolverine had no Healing Factor in the fight in # 88, so that is a horrible example. If DP had no HF in that fight it would have been over in the first panel. The fight in Deadpool # 27 was an even fight all the way, so that obviously proves nothing either.
Deadpool has proven a half-dozen times that he's Wolverine's superior in combat. In fact, DP made him look like a joke on the above pair of occasions.No he has not. Pool has only ever gone over when the deck was stacked in his favor. When Wolvy shows up at the end of # 88 with his HF restored Pool rabbits. If you want to see Wolverine make Wade look legit stupid go read Wolverine Annual 1999. Wade repeatedly shows cowardice and gets beat down facing a werewolf that Wolverine has no problems fighting evenly with, even though he has no way to stop it. Wolverine also beats the hell out of Wade with a pipe and knocks him on his ass to finish the story.

Deadpool totally won #27. He made Wolverine go berserk, KO'd Kitty Pryde, and even gutted Wolverine with his own pair of claws. I'd call it a victory, even if DP got cleaved at the end, but it was totally circumstantial.He totally did not. None of the above in any way attain any sort of victory over Wolverine. Wolverine goes berserk a lot, giving Kitty a Dragon Punch in no way damages Wolverine, and stabbing Wolverine didn't stop him in this comic, and rarely stops him in any others. If you say DP won in # 88 with his handicap then you have to give Wolvy the win here. Wolverine's HF directly impacts his ability to fight, while DP being nuts is the norm. DP was still fighting back here and doing his best to hurt Wolverine. He was not throwing the fight, Wolverine just took him to a level he couldn't continue at.
We'll see if Wolverine can survive against Squirrel Girl or Taskmaster before he's in Deadpool's league. Galactus couldn't take Squirrel Girl and Wolverine has twice defeated Mr. X, who made TM look like a 4 year old girl with a yellow belt when they fought. Beating TM isn't ridiculously tough anyway. Certain people TM can't contend with. Anybody with a Wolverine-Pool level HF is just too much for him to put down.
As for not taking wolvie's villains um Sabretooth and Kane don't count now? Cause he's got a winning record against both.Kane is more of a DP villian. He and Wolverine have only fought once and Wolverine won. And DP doesn't earn a win against Creed when Cable shows up and throws him 10 miles into the middle of the ocean.
Wolvie 145, was amped by Apocalypse and still lost. He only hurt the hulk cause the hulk impaled himself on his claws.If you consider having a sword being amped up, sure. Wolverine got no power-up from Apocalypse besides the adamantium skeleton restored. Prove Wolverine was powered up in some way. And Hulk only walked away because Wolverine took mercy on him.
We could also point out wolvie's first appearance where he got knocked out by one solid hit from the Hulk.:rolleyes: Yeah with no HF, no adamantium, and Wolverine wasn't even fighting him at the time. All that proves is Hulk couldn't beat Wolverine unless he used a sneak attack. All that and Wolverine was still back up and fighting right after it happened. Check Hulk # 182.
Also, Deadpool should be able to best Wolverine in a fight. Deadpool's healing factor almost always outperforms Logan's.Prove it. I'll believe that when Wolverine says it. Deadpool's HF has never been shown to be more powerful and Wolverine has a healing feat to trump anything Wade has. Healed from a hand? Wolverine has healed from NOTHING. Nothing beats something every time. Wolverine also never has to worry about broken bones, Wade always has to deal with that. While Wade is prone on the floor healing broken legs and a missing arm Wolverine is still standing and able to fight on. And seeing how this whole story turns out it compounds the fact that DP's HF can't be better.

[Don't pee in the (Dead)pool]

Well they are both extremely skilled fighters. If i read a book and see Wade win a fight with logan or the other way around i can live with that.

they both have the skills to take it to each other. it's all about who happens to be better on that day. And seeing how they've tangled before, wolvie getting a win shouldnt be that big of a deal.

My only ? is what the hell does wade have to do with wolverine's origins?

They were both subjects of the Weapon X program and they're both Canadian:biggrin:

[Disgruntled1]

My only ? is what the hell does wade have to do with wolverine's origins?More like Wolverine is involved in Wade's origin and the source of is powers. W/O Wolvy there is no Wade, certainly not as we know him.

[pharoahe22]

That's actually not all that much of an exaggeration.

You've clearly not read Wolverine #88, Deadpool #27, or any other issue where they've fought before. Deadpool has proven a half-dozen times that he's Wolverine's superior in combat. In fact, DP made him look like a joke on the above pair of occasions.

But that's neither here nor there.

You can list Wolverine #88 all you want, but fact of the matter is, Wade wouldn't last that long against Logan with no healing factor either. Same thing. Actually, the last three times before Way's story that I saw them fight, Wolverine impaled Deadpool, and then beat him pretty handily in Cable/Deadpool (including chopping his head off lol). Then there was the issue of Wolverine where he pins Deadpool, and stabs his claws into the ground next to his head, to show him that he couldn't taken him out if he wanted to. Part of Deadpool's problem with Wolverine has always been that he's been looked at as second-best. In a fight, it could go either way because they both have the healing factor and are highly skilled...but more often than not, Wade wouldn't like to just stand toe-to-toe with Logan. He'd rather have a plan going into the fight. That's another thing...how did Deadpool make Logan look like a joke in 27 when he's the one that's impaled by the end of the book? :confused: I have that book. I realize that Deadpool's probably your favorite character, and he's one of mine's too, but the evidence doesn't support what you're saying. If anything, it's been shown that they're pretty dead-even.

"If you want to see Wolverine make Wade look legit stupid go read Wolverine Annual 1999. Wade repeatedly shows cowardice and gets beat down facing a werewolf that Wolverine has no problems fighting evenly with, even though he has no way to stop it. Wolverine also beats the hell out of Wade with a pipe and knocks him on his ass to finish the story." Disgruntled1
-Quoted for truth...I have that book too lol

Oh and Wolverine has put up FAR better showings against the Hulk than Deadpool has. I like both characters though. Hopefully, Wolverine makes some good appearances in DP's new book though. You have to have Cable, Logan, and Kane stop by at least a few times.

[roleplay]

Wolverine is suppose to be an expert in hand to hand combat , it's been said and noted several times. It wasn't until his healing factor became powerful, that he started taking hits more instead of avoiding them.

I would say they both are excellent fighters .

Here's Logan fighting the Punisher and doing well :

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