Mutant League 01/16/2008 AM Game 6: Jessica Drew & twilight vs. CTD & Vic. Borkowski

[mattbib]

Greeting fight fans! Welcome to the second fight of the day!

Please review the rules on voting here (http://www.geocities.com/mattbib/mutantleague2008rules.html).

And now on to our fight...

In the first corner we have Jessica Drew & twilight's Electric Eliminators:
Psylocke, Polaris, Blaquesmith, Pulse, Deadpool, Boost, Wolverine

vs

In the other corner is Come_To_Deathstrike & Victor Borkowski's IcyBlinkyBoomySpottyPurplyDustyDebrii:
Iceman, Blink, Gambit, Sunspot, Persuasion, Dust, Debrii

Both participants have submitted strategies:

Please do not post or vote until both strategies have been posted and read.

[mattbib]

Stage One

Blaquesmith mentally overtakes Blink, causing her to go to sleep. If she’s already teleported—or if the following move doesn’t keep in our opponents — especially Dust (or Dust/Persuasion combo) — then Blaquesmith puts a TK field around him, Boost, and Polaris.
Psylocke completely surrounds opponents with a TK forcefield (and if Blaquesmith telepathically tells her that Blink has teleported, then she puts a tight TK field around herself and Pulse).
Boost jumps into Polaris.
Polaris defends Blaquesmith—and others if need be—against any incoming attacks. Polaris—now that she’s boosted—should be alert to anyone teleporting in, due to the change in the immediate electromagnetic spectrum. If necessary, (a boosted) Polaris will summon strong waves of electromagnetic energy to clear any to clear any incoming attackers (if Blaquesmith doesn’t get Blink) out of the area.
Deadpool (and Wolverine) teleport to the other team and knocks out (in this order): Persuasion, Dust (if Dust is not in Dust form), Debrii, and Gambit. If the other team has already teleported by the time Dead pool and Wolverine teleport to the opposite side of the field, then D & W teleport to Blink and take her out.Deadpool: “Wheeeee! You guys are just like M&M's, and I do mean the delicious bite-sized candy treat and not the misogynistic fat, rap guy, you’ve got a hard, glossy shell but underneath you’re just milk-chocolate cry-baby, dundeblitzens with dull, lifeless hair”

Pulse stares at the other team, depowering as many as possible, but aiming first for Persuasion, Dust, and Iceman.Stage Two

Blaquesmith mentally overtakes Dust, Persuasion, and Debrii (in that order), if Deadpool or Wolverine haven’t already taken them out. Neither have shown to be adept at blocking telepathic onslaughts, and Blaqusmith is a particularly skilled telepath. If Blink has teleported before Blaquesmith had the chance to attack, then he attacks her before he attacks the others.
Deadpool and Wolverine continue their melee attack, and in close range, he should be able to take down Gambit without too much of a fuss.Deadpool: “Hey Jim-jam, if you’re gonna go “Snikkety,snikt snikt” is it okay if I go “sliccety,slice slice”? I’m gonna give Gambit a colonoscopy in the face!"

Psylocke and Pulse fly toward the other team on a (front-shielded) TK wave, as Psylocke lifts her shield and slams Bobby with a whammer of a TK wave.
Pulse looks to depower Sunspot and Gambit and Debrii (in that order), and Polaris causes all the metal in the immediate area to wrap around Sunspot and send him flying into Iceman.Stage Three

Blaquesmith continues his mental assault, focusing now on Iceman, Sunspot, Debrii, and Gambit (or whoever is left).
Psylocke continues to TK hammer at Iceman and Sunspot, with Pulse (shielded) by her side, doing what he does best.
Polaris defends Blaquesmith.
Deadpool an d Wolverine melee attack whomever needs attacking, bodysliding when they need to.Deadpool: “We’re the ultimate team, just like Ike and Tina!”

[mattbib]

PHASE ONE

The initial actions made by each member of the team during this phase be considered to happen simultaneously at the beginning of the match,with the intent of scattering so as to avoid being locked onto and sneak attacks by Deadpool.

Blink begins by teleporting herself, Gambit, Debrii, Sunspot and Dust to individual locations:

Dust immediately shifts into sand form as Blink teleports her to appear amidst the opposing team. (Morrisons New X-Men #146 Dust transforms from human to sand in a split second, as “Xorn” shouts a fake warning to Xavier.)

Dust proceeds to encompass the opposing team in her cutting sandstorm. (In the aforementioned issue, Dust fills the entire Cerebra chamber and encompasses Xavier and “Xorn” in seconds. A couple of panels later she encompasses Angel, Beak, Basilisk, Ernst and two of Beak and Angels offspring, filling a room). If any of the opposing team have managed to scatter, her primary targets are Polaris and Blaquesmith.

This move serves the purpose of obstructing the vision of the opposing team, providing cover for our teams opening moves/ teleport locations and distracting/engaging members of the opposing team so as to hinder their power usage, in particular stopping Polaris from maintaining a forcefield or Blaquesmith from being able to concentrate on detecting Blink, or mind-linking his team mates.

Dust should be safe from attack during this assault as the only things that have been shown to harm her in sand form are water and magical energy. Blaquesmith would be unable to halt her attack telepathically as she has been shown to be highly resistant to telepathic intrusion in sand form. (Morrisons New X-Men #133, Jean has to use the X-corps Cerebra unit to locate Dust who is in the same room as her and in New X-Men #146 even Xavier has trouble - “I thought I felt someone nearby. Your telepathic presence i s almost undetectable in granular form…incredible.” And in the same issue during her assault on Basilisk etc Xavier is trying to halt her “It’s almost impossible to grasp her consciousness in this form”

Gambit and Blink appear from the teleport around the side of a smaller shack building close to the opposing team.

Debrii appears from the teleport around the side of building a couple back from where Gambit and Blink are.

Sunspot appears from the teleport in the air behind the opposing team, nicely charged by the Australian sun! He targets Deadpool with a volley of heat blasts, aiming for the teleporter on his belt and his guns, hoping to render them inoperable. If Deadpool has already moved out, Sunspot flies high and monitors the battlefield with the intent of apprehending Deadpool whoever he targets.

Iceman rides out high on an Ice Slide, taking Persuasion with him. He launches a powerful blast of project ile energy ice spears toward the opposing team, targeting Blaquesmith, Pulse and Psylocke. (Uncanny X-Men #422, from up high, this attack knocks over Earthmover, smashes apart one of his rock golems, slams Puck to the floor and and crushes the bonnet/boot of three police cars).

This also signals for Dusts to release Polaris and Boost from her attack (if Boost hasn’t body jumped a team mate yet) so that Persuasion can target them with her pheremones (which have a range of several miles and have taken control of the entire Alpha Flight team before).

Under Persuasions’ suggestion, Boost takes possession of Polaris (if Boost isn’t there, then just Polaris). Polaris plucks Wolverine from wherever he is and yanks him towards her, slamming him into Blaquesmith on the way, as she floats gaily towards the shack where Blink and Gambit are lying in wait, dragging Wolverine behind her.

(Defeated – Blaquesmith)

PHASE TWO:

Sunspot continues to keep a vigile on Deadpool, flying wherever he catches sight of him and attacking with concussive heat blasts from up high, targeting Deadpools weaponry and head, trying to stop Deadpool from taking anyone out with his guns.

Gambit begins kinetically charging the wall of the shack that he and Blink are down the side of as Boost/Polaris approach with Wolverine in the magnetic grip.

Blink targets Wolverine with a teleport stick, teleporting him INSIDE the building before teleporting herself and Gambit away.

The shack wall explodes, causing the building to collapse with Wolverine inside and Polaris right by it, who is knocked out by the explosion and flying rocks. The explosion also takes out the wall of the neighbouring shack.

Iceman slides past the collapsed shack containing Wolverine and encases the entire thing in an ice tomb.

Debrii levitates out from hiding and begins manipulat ing any rubble that hasn’t been iced up, including the fallen second shack wall. If Boost somehow separated from Polaris and is still conscious, Debrii smacks him upside the head with a couple of rocks.

Persuasion, dismounts from the Ice Slide and now targets Pulse with her pheremones.

Debrii joins Dust who has switched her sole focus to Psylocke, enshrouding her with cutting sands, demanding her concentration and dulling her reflexes.

Blink emerges from the teleport next to Persuasion.

Gambit appears from the teleport to engage Deadpool, who should have had trouble getting any hits in with everyone either on the move or hiding and Sunspot tailing/blasting him.

Iceman heads towards Gambit, Sunspot and Deadpool on an ice slide.

(Defeated – Polaris, Boost, Wolverine, Blaquesmith)

PHASE THREE

Gambit extends his bo staff and engages Deadpool in physical combat, backed up by Sunspot. If Deadpools’ teleporter is still active, Gambit uses an acrobatic manoeuvre and charges the teleporter, blowing it up and winding Deadpool.

Sunspot takes the opportunity to deliver a double fisted slam to Deadpools back.

Gambit then swiftly charges his bo staff and sticks it into Deadpools mouth, blowing up his head.

Iceman arrives to put the dirty slab of meat on ice, before he has time to heal.

Psylocke, is now having to contend with a barrage of whirling rocks from Debrii as well as contending with the constant cutting sandstorm – quite problematic for a tk who excels in power but not finesse.

Blink teleports with Pulse (still under Persuasions suggestion) as Dust reverts to human form, exhausted.

Just as Psylocke thinks she has an opening, Blink appears in front of her with Pulse, who instantly de-powers her. Blink then lets go of Pulse and drops him, as Psylocke falls to the floor (if she’d been airbourne).

If Psylocke wasn’t in the air or is still conscious, Persuasion uses her pheremones to take control of her. Debrii then directs her barrage of rocks at Psylocke, knocking her unconscious.

If Pulse is still conscious, Blink takes him out with an acrobatic kick to the head.

(Defeated – Deadpool, Psylocke, Pulse, Polaris, Boost, Wolverine, Blaquesmith)

Team IcyBlinkyBoomySpottyDustyPurplyDebrii celebrate with lame victory poses!

[Diablito]

I gave my vote to Twi and Jessica Drew. They seemed to be prepared for the whole Dust attack (with the setting up of forcefields). The individual taking down by Wolverine and Deadpool should end up being successful, as both are particularly skilled and powerful. The use of Pulse as a dampener to the other team, and Boost, uh, boosting people should make Twi and Jessica Drew's team much more impressive.

[Brian M.]

I gave my vote to Twi and Jessica Drew. They seemed to be prepared for the whole Dust attack (with the setting up of forcefields). The individual taking down by Wolverine and Deadpool should end up being successful, as both are particularly skilled and powerful.

I think that's where I'm leaning, I'll talk to Beast and I'll let both sides respond to the strategies before submitting a vote.

[pryde15]

I gave my vote to Twi and Jessica Drew. They seemed to be prepared for the whole Dust attack (with the setting up of forcefields). The individual taking down by Wolverine and Deadpool should end up being successful, as both are particularly skilled and powerful.

see by I thought that even if force fields were set up, wouldn't Dust have been teleported inside the fields? since Blink teleported admist the opposing team.

I'm still very unsure, I need to reread, usually one team really really jumps out at me, but both did this time, so I can't decide. :confused:

[RickyD410]

Go Team IcyBlinkyBoomySpottyDustyPurplyDebrii!!

[Diablito]

see by I thought that even if force fields were set up, wouldn't Dust have been teleported inside the fields? since Blink teleported admist the opposing team.

I'm still very unsure, I need to reread, usually one team really really jumps out at me, but both did this time, so I can't decide. :confused:

The thing is that Blaquesmith tells Psylocke to tighten the forcefield if Blink teleported. That way, I don't see how Dust would get into these force fields.

[pryde15]

The thing is that Blaquesmith tells Psylocke to tighten the forcefield if Blink teleported. That way, I don't see how Dust would get into these force fields.

I see your point, hmm... I am stuck.

[Josef F.]

Stage One

Blaquesmith mentally overtakes Blink, causing her to go to sleep. If she’s already teleported—or if the following move doesn’t keep in our opponents — especially Dust (or Dust/Persuasion combo) — then Blaquesmith puts a TK field around him, Boost, and Polaris.
Psylocke completely surrounds opponents with a TK forcefield (and if Blaquesmith telepathically tells her that Blink has teleported, then she puts a tight TK field around herself and Pulse).
Boost jumps into Polaris.
Polaris defends Blaquesmith—and others if need be—against any incoming attacks. Polaris—now that she’s boosted—should be alert to anyone teleporting in, due to the change in the immediate electromagnetic spectrum. If necessary, (a boosted) Polaris will summon strong waves of electromagnetic energy to clear any to clear any incoming attackers (if Blaquesmith doesn’t get Blink) out of the area.
Deadpool (and Wolverine) teleport to the other team and knocks out (in this order): Persuasion, Dust (if Dust is not in Dust form), Debrii, and Gambit. If the other team has already teleported by the time Dead pool and Wolverine teleport to the opposite side of the field, then D & W teleport to Blink and take her out.Deadpool: “Wheeeee! You guys are just like M&M's, and I do mean the delicious bite-sized candy treat and not the misogynistic fat, rap guy, you’ve got a hard, glossy shell but underneath you’re just milk-chocolate cry-baby, dundeblitzens with dull, lifeless hair”

Pulse stares at the other team, depowering as many as possible, but aiming first for Persuasion, Dust, and Iceman.Stage Two

Blaquesmith mentally overtakes Dust, Persuasion, and Debrii (in that order), if Deadpool or Wolverine haven’t already taken them out. Neither have shown to be adept at blocking telepathic onslaughts, and Blaqusmith is a particularly skilled telepath. If Blink has teleported before Blaquesmith had the chance to attack, then he attacks her before he attacks the others.
Deadpool and Wolverine continue their melee attack, and in close range, he should be able to take down Gambit without too much of a fuss.Deadpool: “Hey Jim-jam, if you’re gonna go “Snikkety,snikt snikt” is it okay if I go “sliccety,slice slice”? I’m gonna give Gambit a colonoscopy in the face!"

Psylocke and Pulse fly toward the other team on a (front-shielded) TK wave, as Psylocke lifts her shield and slams Bobby with a whammer of a TK wave.
Pulse looks to depower Sunspot and Gambit and Debrii (in that order), and Polaris causes all the metal in the immediate area to wrap around Sunspot and send him flying into Iceman.Stage Three

Blaquesmith continues his mental assault, focusing now on Iceman, Sunspot, Debrii, and Gambit (or whoever is left).
Psylocke continues to TK hammer at Iceman and Sunspot, with Pulse (shielded) by her side, doing what he does best.
Polaris defends Blaquesmith.
Deadpool an d Wolverine melee attack whomever needs attacking, bodysliding when they need to.Deadpool: “We’re the ultimate team, just like Ike and Tina!”

As tempted as i am to give them the win for their Tina turner reference, there's a few things.

They seem to rely a lot on our team standing around, with the whole telepoting Deadpool to where we are, whereas we made the team in constant motion for such an eventuality.
And as we're all over the place, I see deapool and wolverine getting one maybe if they're lucky. Gambit and Blink and Bobby aren't exactly weak fighters. And in the strat, Deadpool loses said teleport ability anyway.
And i also don't thinnk that Blaquesmith is THAT 00ber.
I don't see him mentally overtaking Dust debrii and persuasion all at one time (And he can't get dust anyway)
And without Blaquesmith, their strategy falls apart slightly.
The little green freak

It's quite tight though, I did enjoy it.:D

[Shyft]

i dont think Drew/Twi's strategy flows well, or makes that much sense. First they have DP&Logan take out Gambit, Persuation Derbii and possibly Blink..

But then Blaquesmith has already "taken out" Blink, and the just casually follows up by taking out Persuation Dust and Debrii?

So within the first half of the fight Blaquesmith, Deadpool and Wolverine have taken out Dust, Persuation, Blink, Gambit and Debrii, all with two sentences of "Takes over XYZ in that order" and "beats up YXZ in that order".

That doesnt sit well with me.

[Diablito]

As tempted as i am to give them the win for their Tina turner reference, there's a few things.

They seem to rely a lot on our team standing around, with the whole telepoting Deadpool to where we are, whereas we made the team in constant motion for such an eventuality.
And i also don't thinnk that Blaquesmith is THAT 00ber.
I don't see him mentally overtaking Dust debrii and persuasion all at one time (And he can't get dust anyway)
And without Blaquesmith, their strategy falls apart slightly.
The little green freak

It's quite tight though, I did enjoy it.:D

If he's not uber already, Boost should be able to bring him to these levels.

[Shyft]

The thing is that Blaquesmith tells Psylocke to tighten the forcefield if Blink teleported. That way, I don't see how Dust would get into these force fields.

how can she tighten the forcefield to the point where Dust Cant get in? Surely if she made it more or less skin tight, she and those she were protecting wouldnt be able to move?

[Shyft]

If he's not uber already, Boost should be able to bring him to these levels.

they have Boost boosting Polaris, not Blaquesmith

[pryde15]

I think Drew & Twilight overused Blaquesmith alittle too much, from what worstblogever's recap of the draft said, Blaquesmith has a host of powers but he is not "uber" and it seems he is written that way, but its ok I did the same thing with Mindee Cuckoo and I still pulled out a win, so maybe people will overlook that aspect of your strategy.

[Brett P]

I gave my vote to Twi and Jessica Drew. They seemed to be prepared for the whole Dust attack (with the setting up of forcefields).

see by I thought that even if force fields were set up, wouldn't Dust have been teleported inside the fields? since Blink teleported admist the opposing team.

The thing is that Blaquesmith tells Psylocke to tighten the forcefield if Blink teleported. That way, I don't see how Dust would get into these force fields.

The intention was indeed for Dust to teleport inside of a forcefield in the event of one, hence the wording "amidst the opposing team".

That's the whole reason I had Blink teleport her, because initially we had Dust just blasting straight across the battlefield towards them, until I suddenly realised a force field could keep her out.

I actually explicitly described that she would appear inside a forcefield if there was one in my initial write up but I was getting paranoid about the character limit (I had to send two pms as it was) and I thought the wording made it clear that was the intention of the teleport.

Blink can teleport herself and others anywhere so what's to stop Dust getting inside a forcefield that is big enough to encompass others?

The teleport destination is right amongst the opposing team, not around them. :)

[Shyft]

given it to CTD and Vic. Their strategy anticipates Deadpools actions, benefits from Boost already being in Polaris, and justifiably gives each of Drew and Twi's team their own finishing. I just feel its not clear in Drew and Twi's tactic who takes out who, and how. theres too much "and then he takes 3 members of the opposite team out", which is far too easy in my view. Also the large amounts of counter-guessing the other teams actions (if X has already done Y, then A will do B, unless C has already done B, in which case A will head for Z) makes it very unclear what is ACTUALLY going on in their strategy, if you take out the ifs and maybes.

[Josef F.]

how can she tighten the forcefield to the point where Dust Cant get in? Surely if she made it more or less skin tight, she and those she were protecting wouldnt be able to move?

And then we have the whole, Can he tigthen it enough before Dust gets in?
We know blink's teleports are practically instantaneous, how else d'you get the drop on
DA PHOENIX (Exiles issue 4)
It would depend on blaquesmith's TP and TK skills being faster than blink's teleport, which is a big flaw i see. He'd have to realise the telepport, and by the time he knows what's happened, Dust is already there.
Reaction time debates FTW

[Jessica Drew]

[QUOTE=Come_To_Deathstrike;6172761
....It would depend on blaquesmith's TP and TK skills being faster than blink's teleport.... [/QUOTE]

For our opening salvo to at least partially work, it does, and that's why we had the ol' toadskin attack Blink as soon as the match began. I--of course--think he can gain control of her mind before she teleports. Blaquesmith is old, but he's skilled and wise, and he taught and trained Cable how to use his TP (and TK), so the man's not quite as mentally feeble as worstbloggerever's recap made him seem.

And in the case of voters thinking that Blink's teleporting would be faster than Blaquesmith's psi-attack, we still--in our strategy--had Blaquesmith going after Blink before he'd go after anyone else. AND, on top of that, Polaris--a boosted Polaris--is attuned to the electromagnetic spectrum, and would knock out Blink as soon as ANYONE teleported in, whether in full body or dust body form.

As to our seemingly redundant tactics...we were just covering our bases...instituting back-up plans in case our first plans of action didn't quite work out like we thought they would.

One more thing: I don't believe Dust could transform AND fly away before Psylocke erected the TK field around the team. That's Betsy's first action; therfore, I don't think Dust escapes.

...and Deadpool pwns all, anyway.

He promises secret nudey pics of Bea Arthur to whoever votes for his team.

He left me with this picture as a sneak preview of what BEA could do for YOU...if you vote for DP's team:

http://www.nnhs65.00freehost.com/famous-marines/bea-arthur-73.jpg

[Josef F.]

For our opening salvo to at least partially work, it does, and that's why we had the ol' toadskin attack Blink as soon as the match began. I--of course--think he can gain control of her mind before she teleports. Blaquesmith is old, but he's skilled and wise, and he taught and trained Cable how to use his TP (and TK), so the man's not quite as mentally feeble as worstbloggerever's recap made him seem.

I disagree!
He can't lock on to the wench.
She's teleporting about like nobody's buisness.
He's blaquesmith, not Professor X.

And in the case of voters thinking that Blink's teleporting would be faster than Blaquesmith's psi-attack, we still--in our strategy--had Blaquesmith going after Blink before he'd go after anyone else. AND, on top of that, Polaris--a boosted Polaris--is attuned to the electromagnetic spectrum, and would knock out Blink as soon as ANYONE teleported in, whether in full body or dust body form.

I've already mentioned the blink fastness.
how would polaris knock out the dust form?
She aint magic.
Nor is there water in her powers

One more thing: I don't believe Dust could transform AND fly away before Psylocke erected the TK field around the team. That's Betsy's first action; therfore, I don't think Dust escapes.

that's lovely and all
But We nowhere say that Dust goes anywhere.
SO if she can't escape, you've just locked yourself in a sandstorm.
Which kinda works for us.

...and Deadpool pwns all, anyway.

He promises secret nudey pics of Bea Arthur to whoever votes for his team.

He left me with this picture as a sneak preview of what BEA could do for YOU...if you vote for DP's team:

http://www.nnhs65.00freehost.com/famous-marines/bea-arthur-73.jpg

Deadpool gets pwned by Our raging cajun.
And there's nothing you can do about it.
He may not be as skilled, but he uses his powers to get the jump on him.

And no BRIBING WITH BEA!!
:eek:

[Josef F.]

*THUNDER CRACKLE*

You say!!

(and if Blaquesmith telepathically tells her that Blink has teleported, then she puts a tight TK field around herself and Pulse).

We say

Psylocke is immune to telepathy!

This oversight Made us go "OOOOOOOOOOH"

[twilight]

We say

Psylocke is immune to telepathy!

This oversight buggers the whole forcefield size/dust debate up royally.

Is she unable to receive telepathic messages full stop or is she immune to harmful telepathy?

I don't read new Claremont stuff.

-Twi

[Flâneur]

The thing is that Blaquesmith tells Psylocke to tighten the forcefield if Blink teleported. That way, I don't see how Dust would get into these force fields.

I think Psylocke actually says in UXM's Dino arc that nothing can come inside her mind or be sent out, whether she likes it or not. So CtD is right ... Blaquesmith can't update Psylocke on what is happening.

HOWEVER, in the HoM UXM issues, Psylocke is able to 'let' herself be possessed by Nocturne in order to close the rift. So even though CC has said that was an artist's error, there is some ambiguity.

[Shyft]

Is she unable to receive telepathic messages full stop or is she immune to harmful telepathy?

I don't read new Claremont stuff.

-Twi

i dont know the difference off the top of my head, but it would seem a little odd that she could still recieve TP'd messages if all other forms of TP (suggestion, possession, brain melt) fail on her.

[Brett P]

Stage One
Blaquesmith mentally overtakes Blink, causing her to go to sleep. If she’s already teleported—or if the following move doesn’t keep in our opponents — especially Dust (or Dust/Persuasion combo) — then Blaquesmith puts a TK field around him, Boost, and Polaris.

Although I already defended Dust getting inside the forcefield, you suggest that Blaquesmith needs to wait and see if Blink teleports before he puts up his forcefield, by which time, Dust would be in already anyway.

Psylocke completely surrounds opponents with a TK forcefield (and if Blaquesmith telepathically tells her that Blink has teleported, then she puts a tight TK field around herself and Pulse).

Psylocke cannot be contacted by ANYONE telepathically, since Jamie Braddock altered her. She can't be attacked, sensed or contacted by any telepathic power. Again, Dust is inside before the forcefield is up.

Boost jumps into Polaris.

Great minds think alike :D I love that this saves Persuasion a job haha

Polaris defends Blaquesmith—and others if need be—against any incoming attacks. Polaris—now that she’s boosted—should be alert to anyone teleporting in, due to the change in the immediate electromagnetic spectrum. If necessary, (a boosted) Polaris will summon strong waves of electromagnetic energy to clear any to clear any incoming attackers (if Blaquesmith doesn’t get Blink) out of the area.

Blaquesmith and Polaris are being buffeted by the cutting sandstorm. Blaquesmith is smashed by Bobby's ice missile attack before being KO'd by a flying Wolverine to the face. Polaris is taken over by Persuasion.


Deadpool (and Wolverine) teleport to the other team and knocks out (in this order): Persuasion, Dust (if Dust is not in Dust form), Debrii and Gambit.

Persuasion is already up and away with Iceman. Dust not being in dust form would just be silly :D. Gambit and Debrii have been teleported away and are hidden by the shacks after the initial teleport. No-one is standing where Deadpool and Wolvie appear.

if the other team has already teleported by the time Dead pool and Wolverine teleport to the opposite side of the field, then D & W teleport to Blink and take her out.

They don't know where she is (round the side of the building with Gambit ooh-er!). If you'd used Wolverines senses, then maybe you'd have a shot. Except Wolverine has been magnetically yanked away by Polaris by this point.

Pulse stares at the other team, depowering as many as possible, but aiming first for Persuasion, Dust, and Iceman.

None of these are near him except Dust, who is busy whipping him with cutting sands. I'm not sure he could keep his eyes open!

Blaquesmith mentally overtakes Dust, Persuasion, and Debrii (in that order),

Dust has already been covered by my issue references, and he can't concentrate on his tp for he is being buffeted by the cutting sand storm.


Deadpool and Wolverine continue their melee attack, and in close range, he should be able to take down Gambit without too much of a fuss.[/quote]

Deadpool is solo against Gambit and Sunspot at this point who double team him.

Psylocke and Pulse fly toward the other team on a (front-shielded) TK wave, as Psylocke lifts her shield and slams Bobby with a whammer of a TK wave.

No-one is standing still, everyone is scattered.

Pulse looks to depower Sunspot and Gambit and Debrii (in that order),

Persuasion has Pulse by this point.

Psylocke continues to TK hammer at Iceman and Sunspot, with Pulse

Pulse has been turned on Psylocke by Persuasion and Blink.

I think that covers everything! :D

One more thing: I don't believe Dust could transform AND fly away before Psylocke erected the TK field around the team. That's Betsy's first action; therfore, I don't think Dust escapes.


AS CTD stated, Dust doesn't go anywhere. She stays and buffets your team the entire match until she tires at the end.

[Josef F.]

I think Psylocke actually says in UXM's Dino arc that nothing can come inside her mind or be sent out, whether she likes it or not. So CtD is right ... Blaquesmith can't update Psylocke on what is happening.

HOWEVER, in the HoM UXM issues, Psylocke is able to 'let' herself be possessed by Nocturne in order to close the rift. So even though CC has said that was an artist's error, there is some ambiguity.

Well CC owns her these days.
so what he says goes i feel.
And i have. .. no bias :D


Edit: Yeeeh. What He Said.

[pryde15]

Right now my vote is swaying towards CTD & Vic, but I have to talk it over with Lex, since our vote counts as one.

[Holacik]

Stage One

Deadpool (and Wolverine) teleport to the other team and knocks out (in this order): Persuasion, Dust (if Dust is not in Dust form), Debrii, and Gambit. If the other team has already teleported by the time Dead pool and Wolverine teleport to the opposite side of the field, then D & W teleport to Blink and take her out.

Okay, here's my problem Gambit is by far faster then Deadpool and Wolverine, Gambit is close to bullet-timer, and his kinetically charged objects travel close to bullet speed, Gambit being the fourth target should already be nailing both of them with charged cards before they can corner him in a melee fight. He should be able to back the duo off beore they take out the second target.

[Jessica Drew]

i dont know the difference off the top of my head, but it would seem a little odd that she could still recieve TP'd messages if all other forms of TP (suggestion, possession, brain melt) fail on her.

I look at it as some sort of unhackable firewall, that she can turn on or off when she so chooses, thus we get her allowing Nocturne to possess her...thus she should have the ability to let Blaquesmith telepathically inform her of any given situation.

She might have told Rachel nothing goes in and out of her mind, but she showed in NEX that that was not the case.

...and, Gambit's not going to hurt Wade or Wolverine. You know that.

[Flâneur]

Toboe and I have deliberated! Our vote is awarded to CTD/Borkowski because of Psylocke's telepathic immunity and Blaquesmith's aged reflexes allow Dust to get the drop on them ... it flows from there.

[Brett P]

I look at it as some sort of unhackable firewall, that she can turn on or off when she so chooses, thus we get her allowing Nocturne to possess her...thus she should have the ability to let Blaquesmith telepathically inform her of any given situation.

She might have told Rachel nothing goes in and out of her mind, but she showed in NEX that that was not the case.

It's been explicitly stated several times on panel that Psylocke cannot be contacted telepathically. She DEFINATELY can't turn it on and off when she chooses. Nocturnes posession isn't specifically a telepathic assault anyway, it's bodily posession, so that's neither here nor there.

...and, Gambit's not going to hurt Wade or Wolverine. You know that.

Of course he can hurt them. Sure, they'll heal, but that's where Iceman comes in.

The move we used against Deadpool was even used by Gambit against Wolverine in the Ultimate universe. That's not canon, but Ultimate Gambit and Wolverines powers are no different to the 616 versions. So why couldn't Gambit blow Wades head?

[twilight]

The move we used against Deadpool was even used by Gambit against Wolverine in the Ultimate universe. That's not canon, but Ultimate Gambit and Wolverines powers are no different to the 616 versions.

Actually Ultimate Wolverine was established to have a much weaker healing factor than his 616 counterpart.

-Twi

[Brett P]

Actually Ultimate Wolverine was established to have a much weaker healing factor than his 616 counterpart.

-Twi

Nevertheless, even 616 Wolvie would be incapacitated for a while after having his face blown up - like when a grenade was popped down his throat in the most recent arc of his solo series which actually killed him, and like when Scalphunter shot him through the head in Messiah.

Anyone would need time to recover from such an attack, including Deadpool who was the one on the recieving end of this attack anyway. And Iceman is right there to encase him before his healing factor has time to put him right.

[Jessica Drew]

how would polaris knock out the dust form?
She aint magic.
Nor is there water in her powers

No...but in any form, there is metal in her. Dust itself is composed of quartz and often a few other minerals (feldspar, etc.). Quartz is composed of silicone...which is a metalloid...something (a boosted) Polaris CAN control.

[Jessica Drew]

It's been explicitly stated several times on panel that Psylocke cannot be contacted telepathically. She DEFINATELY can't turn it on and off when she chooses. Nocturnes posession isn't specifically a telepathic assault anyway, it's bodily posession, so that's neither here nor there.

And what controls the body....?

[Brett P]

No...but in any form, there is metal in her. Dust itself is composed of quartz and often a few other minerals (feldspar, etc.). Quartz is composed of silicone...which is a metalloid...something (a boosted) Polaris CAN control.

But she needs to be able to concentrate on using her powers first, which is gonna be pretty hard when being whipped and slashed by a vicious, cutting sandstorm.

[Brett P]

And what controls the body....?

However you choose to see how Nocturnes powers work (artist mistake not withstanding), the fact still remains that Psylocke cannot be affected by a telepathic attack or communication, as has been stated several times in different issues by CC himself, who made the alterations to the character. Psylocke can't receive TP messages, end of.

[FroFroYo]

Yay CTD and Victor.~

[Josef F.]

I look at it as some sort of unhackable firewall, that she can turn on or off when she so chooses, thus we get her allowing Nocturne to possess her...thus she should have the ability to let Blaquesmith telepathically inform her of any given situation.

She might have told Rachel nothing goes in and out of her mind, but she showed in NEX that that was not the case.

...and, Gambit's not going to hurt Wade or Wolverine. You know that.

This is crazy ever so slightly warped by apocalypse, happy to see rogue get shot Marauders "Does what is necessary" Gambit.

He'd clearly do it.
He knows they'll survive

Wolverine survives everything.
Howveer being frozen under a mountain of rubble. HE'd be alive.
But still Frozen under a mountain of debris.

And i can't issue cite, But cable tk exploded Deadpool's brain.
And he's still up and running.

I love healing factors.:)

[Josef F.]

No...but in any form, there is metal in her. Dust itself is composed of quartz and often a few other minerals (feldspar, etc.). Quartz is composed of silicone...which is a metalloid...something (a boosted) Polaris CAN control.

Hmm. I don't see it.
We'd need to go into an analysis of her powers.
As she's not Naturally occuring, disintegrated rock sand.
She's person sand.

So I'm just gonna go right ahead and say she's not manipulatable.
I think it's a bit of a stretch to do that.

[Josef F.]

Actually Ultimate Wolverine was established to have a much weaker healing factor than his 616 counterpart.

-Twi

Aah. but gambit doesn't even interact with wolvie in our strategy.
He's entombed!!

[Flâneur]

No...but in any form, there is metal in her. Dust itself is composed of quartz and often a few other minerals (feldspar, etc.). Quartz is composed of silicone...which is a metalloid...something (a boosted) Polaris CAN control.

Is Polaris repowered or as is in this match?

As one thing that I thought mentioning was that Boost can amp up mutant powers yes? Currently Polaris isn't a mutant anymore and her powers aren't remotely biological; they're technologically based. So I'm not sure Polaris can be boosted in her current status quo.

[worstblogever]

I had issues with both strats, really. Blaquesmith knocking multiple people out with telepathy had a lot of insta-KOs I didn't dig. Him simultaneously contracting Psylocke, when he can't is another issue.

On the other side...

Can in one teleport, Blink successfully scatter her entire team? I know she can teleport a ground at once, but in one move, before anyone else moves... she relocates all her teammates to different locations? If she can, she's got a lot more focus than I've given her credit for. If you have a reference for her being able to do this, though, I can justify why I gave you guys the nod, even more.

Although this was hard... I had to resist giving bonus points to Jess & twi because of Deadpool's banter...

[Mitsaso]

Pulse stares at the other team, depowering as many as possible, but aiming first for Persuasion, Dust, and Iceman.
Pulse needs to be close to the target in order to slowly drain their powers, like he did with Apocalypse in BoA.


Blaquesmith mentally overtakes Dust, Persuasion, and Debrii (in that order), if Deadpool or Wolverine haven’t already taken them out. Neither have shown to be adept at blocking telepathic onslaughts, and Blaqusmith is a particularly skilled telepath.
Dust is immune to telepathy when in sand-form, and in such a battle I really don't expect her to go into human form ever.


Deadpool an d Wolverine melee attack whomever needs attacking, bodysliding when they need to.Deadpool: “We’re the ultimate team, just like Ike and Tina!”
Can Deadpool pull off all that bodysliding now that Cable ain't buddy-buddy with him? Even if he can, the fact that the other team scattered all around the place would not help his and Wolvie's case.

twi's and jessica's strategy had many instant ko's that Novaya and I think he wouldn't be able to pull off. Also, it has the Psylocke/Pulse team-up beating Iceman and Sunspot at once, but what makes us think that both Bobby's will be close to one another to make that work?
On the other hand, in CTD and Vic's strategy has Pulse attacked by ice spikes, flayed by a sandstorm etc etc, so by the end how is Persuasion gonna take him over and use him to off Psylocke?

Anyway, Novaya and me debated over this and decided that, though both strategies were great (albeit with some flaws), CTD and Brokowski's was a little stronger, so they get our vote.

Well done to both teams!

[The Fury]

Dust is immune to telepathy when in sand-form, and in such a battle I really don't expect her to go into human form ever.

Just for conversation wise, as far as I knew she wasn't immune, just hard to detect.

Jean in Dust's first appearence was able to detect her and ask her to reform.

[Mitsaso]

Just for conversation wise, as far as I knew she wasn't immune, just hard to detect.

Jean in Dust's first appearence was able to detect her and ask her to reform.

Yep, but with hardly being able to detect her, taking over her mind would be a horse of a different color!:D

[Josef F.]

I had issues with both strats, really. Blaquesmith knocking multiple people out with telepathy had a lot of insta-KOs I didn't dig. Him simultaneously contracting Psylocke, when he can't is another issue.

On the other side...

Can in one teleport, Blink successfully scatter her entire team? I know she can teleport a ground at once, but in one move, before anyone else moves... she relocates all her teammates to different locations? If she can, she's got a lot more focus than I've given her credit for. If you have a reference for her being able to do this, though, I can justify why I gave you guys the nod, even more.

Although this was hard... I had to resist giving bonus points to Jess & twi because of Deadpool's banter...


Exiles |13 for that one.
The "Rabbit hunt" move
She manages to transport her entire team from various distances away, for an excess of 2 hours, to get out of Vision's sensors.

I am the Exiles Reference boy
=]


On the other hand, in CTD and Vic's strategy has Pulse attacked by ice spikes, flayed by a sandstorm etc etc, so by the end how is Persuasion gonna take him over and use him to off Psylocke?
Well done to both teams!

Both of those tactics aren't ever designed for knockout blows, (as none were delivered in the "defeated" stage. by them)
So pulse is fiiiiiiiine.
The majority of our tactics are used to disorient and confuse.
We are the sneaky sneaky team
=]

[Brett P]

Just for conversation wise, as far as I knew she wasn't immune, just hard to detect.

Jean in Dust's first appearence was able to detect her and ask her to reform.

I referenced that very issue, number and all, citing that Jean needed the help of Cerebra just to detect Dust, when she was in the very same room. And again, I issue referenced Xavier himself finding it virtually impossible to lock on to Dust and halt her attack.


On the other hand, in CTD and Vic's strategy has Pulse attacked by ice spikes, flayed by a sandstorm etc etc, so by the end how is Persuasion gonna take him over and use him to off Psylocke?


Both of those tactics aren't ever designed for knockout blows, (as none were delivered in the "defeated" stage. by them)
So pulse is fiiiiiiiine.

What he said :) Plus it would have been cheap to have Pulse taken out by one kick from Blink, if he hadn't already taken some damage.

Thanks for the input everyone and thanks to everyone who voted for us so far :)

I am jealous of Twi and Jess's pretty bullet points though! My strategy is ugly. Next time, this shall be rectified!

[pryde15]

my vote goes to Victor & CTD :D

[Mitsaso]

What he said :) Plus it would have been cheap to have Pulse taken out by one kick from Blink, if he hadn't already taken some damage.

Well, my thinking was that Pulse, other than the fact that he can depower mutants, is a normal guy with some normal fighting skills. Being in the middle of a Hell On Earth with potentially deadly sandstorms and ice spikes falling from everywhere might be lethal for him. Granted, Dust can probably go soft on the enemy and not flay him, but we can't guarantee that Iceman won't accidentally impale him.:p
Anyway, it's still only a probability thing, he might survive those things so that you can use him later on, or he might not. We can't know for sure.;)

[Brett P]

but we can't guarantee that Iceman won't accidentally impale him.:p


Oh but we can, for it was more energy beams than sharp spears of ice. Didn't anyone read my issue referances? :( Anyway, when Iceman used this move in the issue I referenced, both Puck and Earthmover were struck with the projectiles and were merely smashed to the floor :)

[Mitsaso]

Oh but we can, for it was more energy beams than sharp spears of ice. Didn't anyone read my issue referances? :( Anyway, when Iceman used this move in the issue I referenced, both Puck and Earthmover were struck with the projectiles and were merely smashed to the floor :)

Weren't they Chuck Austen issues?:p
Anyway, I didn't notice the referances, really. But you're right. If Dust and Iceman wanted to keep him alive to use in a later stage of the battle, they can definitely pull it off.

[Brett P]

Weren't they Chuck Austen issues?:p


Shh! :D

So uh, anyway, yay Team IBBSDPD!

[mattbib]

Congratulations, Come_To_Deathstrike & Victor Borkowski! You move on to Game 11 where you'll face Flâneur & Toboe next Wednesday, January 23.

Good job, Jessica Drew & twilight. You move to the lower bracker where next Wednesday you'll fight for your survival against TShark82 & The Lucky One.

Good luck!