"Deep End" of the ‘Pool: Way talks “Wolverine Origins”

[andy khouri]

"The Deep End" begins in this week's "Wolverine: Origins" #21, guest-starring the inimitable Deadpool, who's got Logan in his distorted sights. CBR spoke with writer Daniel Way about the arc and his future on the series.

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[rwsmith]

I really, really like Way's ideas for this book. The actual writing falls a bit flat sometimes, mainly because I think his pacing is too slow and the art is a bit bland (at least IMO), but his outline for this series always sounds fantastic! I hope the payoff with Daken is as incredible as it sounds.

[Sentinel K]

I hope the payoff with Daken is as incredible as it sounds.

Pretty sure it won't be.

Way has this uncanny knack of making Origins SOUND awesome.

It's usually the complete opposite though.

[Wild Card13]

Is it strange that I found the uncolored page of Dillon's art superior to all the finished offerings?

[Fatguy]

Pretty sure it won't be.

Way has this uncanny knack of making Origins SOUND awesome.

It's usually the complete opposite though.

Yeah, he sells very well. I remember how excited he had me for the "Big, epic battle of Monsters!" between Ghost Rider and Hulk in Ghost Rider's WWH tie-in.

Boy did that end up being a piece of crap.

[Red Lotus]

After reading his take on Deadpool I am now very worried about him doing a Deadpool ongoing.

[Congo Jack]

Way has this uncanny knack of making Origins SOUND awesome.
True. He can talk a good game, but so rarely delivers. Perhaps if those five and six issue arcs were condenssed to two issues long it would be a better read.

Is it strange that I found the uncolored page of Dillon's art superior to all the finished offerings?
My reaction also. I thought those uncloured pencils/inks looked great. Dillon would thrive if the colouring wasn't so *glossy*, I think more brown tones need to seep into it.

[Euks]

After reading his take on Deadpool I am now very worried about him doing a Deadpool ongoing.

I agree, it's like he looked at the origin of Deadpool and totally ignored every Deadpool comic book ever since. I really hope that everything Fabian has done with Deadpool (and Cable!) isn't just tossed out so quickly...

[Pro]

Is it strange that I found the uncolored page of Dillon's art superior to all the finished offerings?

Agreed, part of the problem with the artwork is definitely the coloring.

[Brian M.]

I'll pass on this. I'll also pass on the Deadpool ongoing. Maybe a Fabian written Deadpool is the only one I like. I should read his old ongoing.

[Hi-Fi]

I'll pass on this. I'll also pass on the Deadpool ongoing. Maybe a Fabian written Deadpool is the only one I like. I should read his old ongoing.
You should. Joey Kelly's run is amazing.

[Wade_Wilsons_Tailor]

Is it strange that I found the uncolored page of Dillon's art superior to all the finished offerings?

Alot of these guy's art ends up with the same fate.

Reilly Brown's pencils are insane, but when they get color on em, they color over the little details that made it look so sharp to begin with.

[Waterlily]

Is it strange that I found the uncolored page of Dillon's art superior to all the finished offerings?

Apparently, no, judging from other's responses. I've actually liked Dillon's artwork on Origins for the most part, but I haven't liked the coloring from the word go. I keep thinking back to Astonishing X-Men's coloring, and how it really complimented the artwork. I don't feel that with this book. I hope they get a new colorist as well to go with a new artist.

I wonder who the new artist will be...

Way has this uncanny knack of making Origins SOUND awesome.

It's usually the complete opposite though.

Agreed. I really do like some of his ideas... but not always the execution of said ideas. It was even worse when Loeb introduced some of those ideas (I'm assuming Romulus and the Lupine thing were Way's ideas).

... it's like he looked at the origin of Deadpool and totally ignored every Deadpool comic book ever since. I really hope that everything Fabian has done with Deadpool (and Cable!) isn't just tossed out so quickly...

Unfortunately, it probably will be just ignored. Thats the impression I'm getting. It's a shame, I really like the Deadpool and Friends thing thats going on now.

[Wade_Wilsons_Tailor]

I really hope that everything Fabian has done with Deadpool (and Cable!) isn't just tossed out so quickly...

I was thinkin about that awhile ago when Cable came back, I still think it sucks that Cable hasn't reached out to Wade or Domino in Messiah Complex. It seemed like the perfect crossover and story that could have gave Deadpool a sweet role in a major story. People say he'd take away from the seriousness, but I mean what? you can't have a funny guy to lighten the situation up with a few one liners? It's not like he'd have to take up all the dialouge on a panel, it's not like he'd be in the middle of a serious fight with Sinisters people and pull Gambits pants down, or be in a fight with Lady Deathstrike and squeeze her jubblies. Not in a serious fight anyway..

[Frank]

I've liked what Way has done so far on Origin mainly because it's quite nasty and unapologetic. Way writes Logan as a worst human being than thousand Frank Castle. The kind that pretty much sucker punch Captain America. lol and the blood flow like crazy like it's a MAX title. I'm unsure about Dillon yet. While he's great at face expressions and it compliment the more hardcore elements, it hasn't clicked like the work he did on Punisher. Some of you have mentioned the coloring and that might be part of it, yea. Or maybe a Wolverine book just needs an artitst with more kinetic energy, like more of the blockbuster action artist a la David Finch. As for Deadpool, I can't wait for his appearance, it seems like Way's humour fits perfectly well with the character.

[Wade_Wilsons_Tailor]

Uh the more I read the interview, it kinda sounds like he's takin Deadpool backwards...With the Mental Issues and what not. I thought Cable and Deadpool cleared that part of Wade up? Eh, anyways..I'm outta here, got food that needs to be devoured by my manly paws and cougar mouth.

[Kusanagi]

ugh, my biggest fear was that they would completely sweep the entire run of Cable/Deadpool under the rug and it looks like it's going to happen. Seriously is it so hard to let Deadpool keep some development!

As for the poster who wanted to know if anyone else wrote single Deadpool good, Joe Kelly and Gail Simone. Hell Deadpool even gives them props in C&D :p

[JmH Reborn]

How about this...I venture to say that the secret player that pops up in this confrontation is none other than

Kane and Vanessa

Anybody know what happened to him/them lately?

Why do I say this? Way is doing nothing but try to revamp stories from the 90's although they were still done better. So if anybody picks up Wolverine #88 (vol. 2) where a powerless Wolverine battles Deadpool, he was there for Kane and Vanessa. The battles took place in...San Francisco

Wolverine is fighting Deadpool again in...you guessed it...San Francisco. Convienent that Wolverine is in San Francisco for no reason, but whatever

[killerbass]

ugh, my biggest fear was that they would completely sweep the entire run of Cable/Deadpool under the rug and it looks like it's going to happen. Seriously is it so hard to let Deadpool keep some development!

As for the poster who wanted to know if anyone else wrote single Deadpool good, Joe Kelly and Gail Simone. Hell Deadpool even gives them props in C&D :p

I agree! I really hope that they keep CDP in continuity -- it's that good.

Add Priest to the list of writers who did good job with Deadpool.

--Tom

[Kusanagi]

How about this...I venture to say that the secret player that pops up in this confrontation is none other than

Kane and Vanessa

Anybody know what happened to him/them lately?

Why do I say this? Way is doing nothing but try to revamp stories from the 90's although they were still done better. So if anybody picks up Wolverine #88 (vol. 2) where a powerless Wolverine battles Deadpool, he was there for Kane and Vanessa. The battles took place in...San Francisco

Wolverine is fighting Deadpool again in...you guessed it...San Francisco. Convienent that Wolverine is in San Francisco for no reason, but whatever I'm pretty sure Vanessa's been dead since Frank Tierri's run in Deadpool Weapon X arc. If she's been brought back to life I haven't seen it.

Also I think Deadpool 27 happened San Fran chinatown also I think, go figure

[JmH Reborn]

I'm pretty sure Vanessa's been dead since Frank Tierri's run in Deadpool Weapon X arc. If she's been brought back to life I haven't seen it.

Also I think Deadpool 27 happened San Fran chinatown also I think, go figure

Yeah, I really have no idea what has been up with them...I think the last time I saw Kane was in Wolverine #143 I think.

Hmm...makes you wonder why these two have to battle all the time in San Fran...maybe...they have a...connection:eek:

[CMBMOOL]

At Last we finally get to see how Deadpool thinks of the Marvel Universe that he lives in. :D


Now the arc is worth it if it funny enough. :p

[Morphy]

I dropped Origins a while ago and I think, as a Deadpool fan, that a Deadpool with hallucinations written by Daniel Way will be really disappointing.

But, looking at the Steve Dillon art, a mad idea comes to my mind: Ennis + Dillon + Deadpool. How cool would that be ?:D

[Mort]

I don't like the sound of his ideas about Deadpool.
The whole Deadpools mission in life is to take out Wolverine thing.

I don't know whether or not I like the sound of Pool-O-Vision

[Trooper3]

I'm really scared also.

Wolvie has a dark past, and takes a dark path.

There has been so much good work in The Cable & Deadpool comics. If it's just thrown away it'll be really sad. :(

Maybe it's just me but I like his "team" of Agency X. Weasel, fat Agent X, and Bob.... Bob Rocks!!! (Don't forget.. Deadpool's an X-man now also hehe)

The "Deadpool View" has potential to be funny, but on the other side of the spectrum I don't see Deadpool as CRAZY. His Mouth is more of a weapon. #21 was funny The Piano at the end made me laugh, but i'm not sure where the arch is going.. but i guess that what happens when DP ain't the main focus..

[Red Lotus]

Uh the more I read the interview, it kinda sounds like he's takin Deadpool backwards...With the Mental Issues and what not. I thought Cable and Deadpool cleared that part of Wade up? Eh, anyways..I'm outta here, got food that needs to be devoured by my manly paws and cougar mouth.

I have to agree. Its almost like he is going back before Deadpool first ongoing.

[sifon]

from origins 21 and the preview of 22, the pool-o-vision thing is really stupid and unfunny.

oh fabian, where art thou