New X-Men #46 - Review and Spoilers!! [Archive] - Page 3

Pach!

01-19-2008, 04:15 PM

If she hadn't teleported, though, would Pred X have slowly taken out all the kids at Westchester, and would the fight at Muir Island continued to go as well?

Muir Island's only real challenge is Exodus. If they can get rid of him (which they will) they win.

Pred X would have eaten EVERYONE in the mansion.

In the end it was for the best Pixie did it.

frog

01-19-2008, 04:16 PM

If she hadn't teleported, though, would Pred X have slowly taken out all the kids at Westchester, and would the fight at Muir Island continued to go as well?

I'd say Predator X would have probably got at least one or two kids. As for the fight at Muir Island, I think enough opposing forces were there to have the Maurauders and Acolytes overcome.

Too bad Pixie couldn't have just teleported Pred X into the ocean but then that wouldn't be nearly as exciting!

cgar

01-19-2008, 04:22 PM

You guys really think that the people at the mansion couldnt have dealt with Predator X? Like at all? They could have found a way i think

frog

01-19-2008, 04:26 PM

You guys really think that the people at the mansion couldnt have dealt with Predator X? Like at all? They could have found a way i think

I think that yes, they would have eventually overcome Predator X, but would have a hard time protecting the injured people from it. I could see either Beast, Nightcrawler, Nezhno or Surge getting mortally wounded trying to keep it from killing the others.

worstblogever

01-19-2008, 04:28 PM

I'd say Predator X would have probably got at least one or two kids. As for the fight at Muir Island, I think enough opposing forces were there to have the Maurauders and Acolytes overcome.

Too bad Pixie couldn't have just teleported Pred X into the ocean but then that wouldn't be nearly as exciting!

Yeah, I think he'd have gotten one or two kids. Beast probably would have figured out how to kill it, using Mercury's link to it, and they'd have eventually have taken it out. Maybe Loa could have done some damage to Preddy, if it went after Josh.

claimtosubclaim

01-19-2008, 04:28 PM

You guys really think that the people at the mansion couldnt have dealt with Predator X? Like at all? They could have found a way i think

Pixie could teleport him into space, but she herself has to teleport w/ her passengers, so...

icareenuffforII

01-19-2008, 04:30 PM

Can pixie teleport to Limbo? Predator X would be right at home there

frog

01-19-2008, 04:30 PM

Anyway, fans were wanting the New X-Men to see some real action so here we are!

worstblogever

01-19-2008, 04:33 PM

Anyway, fans were wanting the New X-Men to see some real action so here we are!

Real action where none of the kids die, at that.

frog

01-19-2008, 04:34 PM

Real action where none of the kids die, at that.

Works for me!

claimtosubclaim

01-19-2008, 04:35 PM

Real action where none of the kids die, at that.

Way to go, Mike Carey! Wait, I wanted Surge to die so that Hellion could get his title back (or fight Prodigy for it). D'oh! Yost/Kyle, get rolling on that!

ZNOP

01-19-2008, 06:06 PM

Exodus seems to have his hands full with Storm and Siryn at the moment. But there's so many X-Men and New X-Men present, he's probably going to only see more trouble from them before he worries about Preddy Krueger.

If adamantium hurts Predator X, it's going to be X-23, Mercury, or Wolverine that really do the damage against it, most likely.

But... Mercury is not composed of Adamantium. In fact She's not even close. How do you make such an analogy?

frog

01-19-2008, 06:09 PM

But... Mercury is not composed of Adamantium. In fact She's not even close. How do you make such an analogy?

Predator X has her skin, however.

Victorious

01-19-2008, 06:33 PM

Storm and Surge could help too, since Mercury's weakness is electricity.

worstblogever

01-19-2008, 06:41 PM

But... Mercury is not composed of Adamantium. In fact She's not even close. How do you make such an analogy?

Yeah, like frog said, the Facility used sample from Mercury to cover Predator X. And, Cessily's got a weird bond with it, now. Cessily, perhaps with with some research from Beast, probably could've found a way to have Mercury reclaim her missing skin, and in effect, flay Predator X to death.

Complete fantasy description of a "what could be", but you have to admit, it'd be an amazing visual.

jarrod

01-19-2008, 07:01 PM

And, again, you're beating it to death that Mystique has never shown psi resistance, when we've already cited three times she's gotten the drop on Xavier, and two where she's gotten the drop on Emma Frost and all the Cuckoos. Plausible.
Raven's resistance to psi detection was also why Farouk considered her a serious threat and sent Val Cooper to off her iirc.... waaaaaay back in the late 1980s I believe.

Actually, when was Mystique's (limited?) psi resistance first established? Before that?

worstblogever

01-19-2008, 07:22 PM

Raven's resistance to psi detection was also why Farouk considered her a serious threat and sent Val Cooper to off her iirc.... waaaaaay back in the late 1980s I believe.

Actually, when was Mystique's (limited?) psi resistance first established? Before that?

Uncanny X-Men #142 was the first time. She did so again in #178.

In X-Men (vol. 2) #205, just prior to MC, Sinister noted Mystique was using a psi-blocker, and he didn't trust her too much because of it. Without the help of such devices... the most recent time her natural resistance was referenced, was during Bizarre Love Triangle, when the X-Men were trying to determine her reasons for pretending to be Foxx. Her mind was described as near-impossible to get a read on in X-Men (vol. 2) #173. and part of the reason was she had psi-blocks put in from apparently Pulse. Rogue actually tries to absorb Mystique's memories to get the truth from her at the end of that issue, and in #174, says it was a "wall of white mental noise".

Point being, Mystique has long since learned to keep out telepaths.

Shaid O Gray

01-20-2008, 02:37 AM

Uncanny X-Men #142 was the first time. She did so again in #178.

In X-Men (vol. 2) #205, just prior to MC, Sinister noted Mystique was using a psi-blocker, and he didn't trust her too much because of it. Without the help of such devices... the most recent time her natural resistance was referenced, was during Bizarre Love Triangle, when the X-Men were trying to determine her reasons for pretending to be Foxx. Her mind was described as near-impossible to get a read on in X-Men (vol. 2) #173. and part of the reason was she had psi-blocks put in from apparently Pulse. Rogue actually tries to absorb Mystique's memories to get the truth from her at the end of that issue, and in #174, says it was a "wall of white mental noise".

Point being, Mystique has long since learned to keep out telepaths.

Exactly. I don't see why people keep pointing out Sinister was a telepath as a reason why he should've seen the attack coming, when the writers went out of their way to so clearly establish that Mystique was shielded against telepathy.

They even had Sinister say it personally!

She grabbed him quickly, and shoved him into Rogue before he could react. Sure, if he had time to react, even without telepathic means against her, Raven would've been a smear on the wall, but he didn't.

I do still say that a different artist could've been more succesful in conveying that Mystique in fact, moved fast, but it's still obviously what the writer intended.

worstblogever

01-20-2008, 02:44 AM

Exactly. I don't see why people keep pointing out Sinister was a telepath as a reason why he should've seen the attack coming, when the writers went out of their way to so clearly establish that Mystique was shielded against telepathy.

They even had Sinister say it personally!

She grabbed him quickly, and shoved him into Rogue before he could react. Sure, if he had time to react, even without telepathic means against her, Raven would've been a smear on the wall, but he didn't.

I do still say that a different artist could've been more succesful in conveying that Mystique in fact, moved fast, but it's still obviously what the writer intended.

Yeah, if he should've seen it coming, it's because he's had almost 150 years of seeing deception, or that he was working with Mystique.

But hey, that's just how good at lying Mystique's supposed to be. Besides, Sinister had his thoughts centered more on getting the baby, and what research he was going to do on it.

claimtosubclaim

01-20-2008, 02:56 AM

The writers have said that Sinister's goal in MC isn't really different then the X-Men's (they all see the baby as a means to save the future of mutantkind), but that the way he goes about achieving it is morally appalling. I wonder if we are ever going to find out what he was going to to with the baby, especially since by the end of X-Men #207 this plot thread is never resolved.

Shaid O Gray

01-20-2008, 02:56 AM

Yeah, if he should've seen it coming, it's because he's had almost 150 years of seeing deception, or that he was working with Mystique.

But hey, that's just how good at lying Mystique's supposed to be. Besides, Sinister had his thoughts centered more on getting the baby, and what research he was going to do on it.

Yeah that's what I was thinking. Guy had a lot on his mind. But that reminds me, they haven't really said yet what his motivations were, right? We assume it was to try and revive the mutant race (since hey, that involves his life's work) but it's never really been established how he viewed that or what he exactly he was planning to do there.

Gotta, say there's a lot of wrapping up and explaining left that I have a feeling is not all going to be in chapter 13, hehe. Like how did Gambit know that 'One minute before dawn' line would put Cable on his particular path? Because that was clearly very deliberate. Maybe Mystique knew something of that too...

Shaid O Gray

01-20-2008, 02:58 AM

claimtosubclaim

01-20-2008, 02:59 AM

Yeah that's what I was thinking. Guy had a lot on his mind. But that reminds me, they haven't really said yet what his motivations were, right? We assume it was to try and revive the mutant race (since hey, that involves his life's work) but it's never really been established how he viewed that or what he exactly he was planning to do there.

Mike Carey said it best: that Sinister wants to revive mutantkind because they're his favorite species to study and experiment on. As for how he was going to do this... I'm not sure if that'll be explained.

Shaid O Gray

01-20-2008, 03:04 AM

Mike Carey said it best: that Sinister wants to revive mutantkind because they're his favorite species to study and experiment on. As for how he was going to do this... I'm not sure if that'll be explained.

I hear ya. I suppose I'd like to see some of the X-Men acknowledge this though. It's possibly the first time they fight Sinister while having practically the same goal as him. It's one of the aspects I liked about this whole thing.

claimtosubclaim

01-20-2008, 03:25 AM

I hear ya. I suppose I'd like to see some of the X-Men acknowledge this though. It's possibly the first time they fight Sinister while having practically the same goal as him. It's one of the aspects I liked about this whole thing.

As would I. Unfortunately, the page-count limit forces the writers to leave a lot of stuff to subtext, speculation, and/or figuring motives out for yourself based on the characters' pasts. :(

xmanson

01-20-2008, 10:31 AM

Great issue...

1 - Riptide remmebers his neck being broken? isn't he just a clone?

2 - Mystique finally admitting killing Moira, so that crap from he solo series "it was not me" was jut a lie.

3 - Rogue's powers were amplified somehow? It should have taken her a lot of time in contact with Sinister to kill someone that powerful, or that was what i though.

Mikl C

01-20-2008, 10:37 AM

They've repeatedly shown the baby to have RED HAIR and GREEN EYES.

..!

Nyssane

01-20-2008, 11:22 AM

1 - Riptide remmebers his neck being broken? isn't he just a clone?

I noticed that, too, and it's something I liked. Apparently Sinister telepathically clones them as well as physically, so their minds from the final moment their clones were alive are placed into their new bodies.

It makes them more interesting that way than if they were clones who had no recollection of anything that happened to them.

xmanson

01-20-2008, 11:30 AM

I noticed that, too, and it's something I liked. Apparently Sinister telepathically clones them as well as physically, so their minds from the final moment their clones were alive are placed into their new bodies.

It makes them more interesting that way than if they were clones who had no recollection of anything that happened to them.

I guess he must drag the bodies wih the memories with him in order to copy them, or at least be present when thye die (which was not the case).

I do think it was more a mistake of a mistake from the writers, actually, but explainable, nonetheless.

Flameworthy

01-20-2008, 11:33 AM

3 - Rogue's powers were amplified somehow? It should have taken her a lot of time in contact with Sinister to kill someone that powerful, or that was what i though.

It was because Rogue was infected with Strain 88 which kills on contact. The baby cured her of it though.

xmanson

01-20-2008, 11:39 AM

It was because Rogue was infected with Strain 88 which kills on contact. The baby cured her of it though.

Oh, thanks... I had forgotten about that, LOL.

So, shouldn't they have her fully covered though? Kinda careless...

frog

01-20-2008, 11:45 AM

Oh, thanks... I had forgotten about that, LOL.

So, shouldn't they have her fully covered though? Kinda careless...

What, cover her face?

xmanson

01-20-2008, 11:46 AM

What, cover her face?

Yep.... with some kind of bubble with air flowing. Like bubble boy.

ZNOP

01-20-2008, 06:10 PM

It was because Rogue was infected with Strain 88 which kills on contact. The baby cured her of it though.

Who else was infected with Strain 88? And, what happened to said strain? Also, did Rogue regain her super strength/invulnerability and flight? Or does she still have Hiro's powers? I take it Strain 88 was meant to eradicate the mutant race -- Yes?

Pach!

01-20-2008, 06:12 PM

It's kinda sad this the last New X-men issue but it truly rocked. And all the kids made it out alive! Yay school spirit!

ProfeZZor X

01-20-2008, 07:39 PM

I hate to give you guys another one of my hair-brained theories, but this one has been on my mind since yesterday, and I'm dying to get your opinion on it.

Marvel said that this baby is a new character, and that it's not Jean... But

What if this "Messiah" baby IS the Phoenix force incarnated in human form, or at least an extension of it? No one knows how powerful the child is, and it does have physical features that resemble Jean, such as the green eyes and red hair. What if after all these years of posessing Jean, it finally manifested itself as a human child? After all, it started off as an innocent entity when it first came to Jean, and was curious enough about human emotions to make it's host (Jean) go through hell and back. Plus, the fact that there is a moment in the upcoming X-Men #207 where there is an "personal interaction" between the baby and Scott... Just a thought.

I mean if Cerebro can come to life, why can't this?

Okay, you can shoot me now... :o

Brian M.

01-20-2008, 07:40 PM

I hate to give you guys another one of my hair-brained theories, but this one has been on my mind since yesterday, and I'm dying to get your opinion on it.

Marvel said that this baby is a new character, and that it's not Jean... But

What if this "Messiah" baby IS the Phoenix force incarnated in human form, or at least an extension of it? No one knows how powerful the child is, and it does have physical features that resemble Jean, such as the green eyes and red hair. What if after all these years of posessing Jean, it finally manifested itself as a human child? After all, it started off as an innocent entity when it first came to Jean, and was curious enough about human emotions to make it's host (Jean) go through hell and back. Plus, the fact that there is a moment in the upcoming X-Men #207 where there is an "personal interaction" between the baby and Scott... Just a thought.

Okay, you can shoot me now... :o

Stop posting. Please. Just stop. Please. Is no one else allowed to have red hair and green freaking eyes?

Pach!

01-20-2008, 07:40 PM

I hate to give you guys another one of my hair-brained theories, but this one has been on my mind since yesterday, and I'm dying to get your opinion on it.

Marvel said that this baby is a new character, and that it's not Jean... But

What if this "Messiah" baby IS the Phoenix force incarnated in human form, or at least an extension of it? No one knows how powerful the child is, and it does have physical features that resemble Jean, such as the green eyes and red hair. What if after all these years of posessing Jean, it finally manifested itself as a human child? After all, it started off as an innocent entity when it first came to Jean, and was curious enough about human emotions to make it's host (Jean) go through hell and back. Plus, the fact that there is a moment in the upcoming X-Men #207 where there is an "personal interaction" between the baby and Scott... Just a thought.

Okay, you can shoot me now... :o

Who has the energy anymore.

jester1436

01-20-2008, 07:46 PM

The baby is Speedball. Who was supposed to die. Which isn't a retcon - people just forgot.

DeadXMan

01-20-2008, 08:30 PM

Stop posting. Please. Just stop. Please. Is no one else allowed to have red hair and green freaking eyes?

we'll stop when the marriage lovers dose. :D

icareenuffforII

01-20-2008, 08:42 PM

They've repeatedly shown the baby to have RED HAIR and GREEN EYES.

..!

EXACTLY

and Marvel, unlike DC, doesn't just throw around similar eye color/hair color on a team. Why do you think Emma's the ONLY blonde? Each character has their own coloring. DC has 5 people with the same costume and hero name.

Rachel's off in space in a mini so it can't be her.

This is just like when the Hellfire club showed up in torn and a handful of people said it was all Emma and others avoided the obvious.

Beast

01-20-2008, 08:47 PM

EXACTLY

and Marvel, unlike DC, doesn't just throw around similar eye color/hair color on a team. Why do you think Emma's the ONLY blonde? Each character has their own coloring. DC has 5 people with the same costume and hero name.

Rachel's off in space in a mini so it can't be her.

This is just like when the Hellfire club showed up in torn and a handful of people said it was all Emma and others avoided the obvious.
It's not Jean. The baby is a new character. Jean never had Strawberry Blond hair.

icareenuffforII

01-20-2008, 09:06 PM

You're seriously going to argue over the SHADE of red?

Me thinks you're baiting

Beast

01-20-2008, 09:13 PM

You're seriously going to argue over the SHADE of red?

Me thinks you're baiting
No, I'm freakin' telling you...

The baby is not an existing character or the offspring of any famous bloodlines. FACT

DarthCyclopsRLZ

01-20-2008, 09:15 PM

Beast

01-20-2008, 09:17 PM

And wouldn't have Cable *mentioned* something at some point if it was the WOMAN WHO RAISED HIM FOR TWELVE YEARS...?

And besides, what the hell would be the point of having JEAN OF ALL PEOPLE murder a million souls? What, it's supposed to be a big deal considering her track record or...? :D
Exactly. It would be pointless and stupid. It's not Jean.

We've already had someone in the X-Position say the hair is 'Strawberry Blonde'.

icareenuffforII

01-20-2008, 09:17 PM

DarthCyclopsRLZ

01-20-2008, 09:20 PM

Well, look at it from a purely mathematical point of view.

Jean's got 5 billions kills under her belt.

She'd have 5.1 billions.

The drama.

Beast

01-20-2008, 09:21 PM

And you somehow know something the rest of us dont?

Unless you're secretly one of the writers of the story you're speculating like the rest of us.

You're entitled to your opinions, but you're not entitled to telling the rest of us that our opinions/ideas are any less possible than yours.
It's not an opinion. It's fact. From the info that Marvel and the Writers have said.

The baby is not an existing character or the offspring of a famous bloodline.

And the baby's hair is Strawberry Blonde. All facts, direct from Marvel and the Writers.

Yoshi

01-20-2008, 09:22 PM

icareenuffforII

01-20-2008, 09:24 PM

And until the baby grows up to be someone else....there's going to be speculation about if the baby is/isn't jean

Slung

01-20-2008, 09:25 PM

They have said multiple times that they found somewhere that the baby is not Jean.

I don't think or want it to be Jean, but all the interviews I've read it seems that they've purposely dodged that question. And I don't recall them ever categorically saying it wasn't the reincarnation of a character - just that it wasn't the child of a famous mutant bloodline. Redirection not outright lies, that sort of thing.

Butters

01-20-2008, 09:25 PM

The baby is just a new character.

At least, I seriously hope so.

Beast

01-20-2008, 09:25 PM

And until the baby grows up to be someone else....there's going to be speculation about if the baby is/isn't jean
But we already know she's not. We've been told this.

Also Jean's in the White Hot Room regathering her pieces for the next crappy Phoenix mini-series.

Fatguy

01-20-2008, 09:26 PM

I don't think or want it to be Jean, but all the interviews I've read it seems that they've purposely dodged that question. And I don't recall them ever categorically saying it wasn't the reincarnation of a character - just that it wasn't the child of a famous mutant bloodline. Redirection not outright lies, that sort of thing.

They have straight up said that the baby is not a known mutant.

But, then they playfully dodge the question in other interviews in order to mess with people. Its kinda annoying actually, it's why we still get questions about the baby's identity clogging up the X-Positions.

Beast

01-20-2008, 09:26 PM

I don't think or want it to be Jean, but all the interviews I've read it seems that they've purposely dodged that question. And I don't recall them ever categorically saying it wasn't the reincarnation of a character - just that it wasn't the child of a famous mutant bloodline. Redirection not outright lies, that sort of thing.
They've been toying with people because they like to see people argue.

But when this event started, Marvel stated outright that the baby was new.

Beast

01-20-2008, 09:27 PM

They have straight up said that the baby is not a known mutant.

But, then they playfully dodge the question in other interviews in order to mess with people. Its kinda annoying actually, it's why we still get questions about the baby's identity clogging up the X-Positions.
Exactly. I hate how they toy with people after already having made a firm statement.

Then we get stupid circular arguments like this one about the baby.

DeadXMan

01-20-2008, 09:42 PM

No, I'm freakin' telling you...

The baby is not an existing character or the offspring of any famous bloodlines. FACT

there is no such thing as facts in comics books, ask bucky.

ZNOP

01-20-2008, 10:09 PM

there is no such thing as facts in comics books, ask bucky.

Well, fact about Bucky -- he's still dead:D

worstblogever

01-20-2008, 10:56 PM

Well, fact about Bucky -- he's still dead:D

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Ladies and gents... your Captain America.

Now... back to New X-Men #46 discussion...

ProfeZZor X

01-21-2008, 12:04 AM

Stop posting. Please. Just stop. Please. Is no one else allowed to have red hair and green freaking eyes?

You're a funny, funny man...

I'm NOT saying this baby IS Jean, like the rest of them... I'm "suggesting" that maybe this baby could possibly be spawned from the Phoenix force. And with the Scott/Baby scene in this week's adjectiveless, it seems to have some sort of Jean-esque overtone to it.

...Don't hate me for throwing that out there. I'm not one of those crackpots swearing it's Jean. And frankly, I could care less who this baby is. It's all one big plothole anyway. I mean how the hell can this baby just get rid of 1 billion psyches, and a nasty virus just like that?

Jake V

01-21-2008, 12:05 AM

You're a funny, funny man...

I'm NOT saying this baby IS Jean, like the rest of them... I'm "suggesting" that maybe this baby could possibly be spawned from the Phoenix force. And with the Scott/Baby scene in this week's adjectiveless, it seems to have some sort of Jean-esque overtone to it.

...Don't hate me for throwing that out there. I'm not one of those crackpots swearing it's Jean. And frankly, I could care less who this baby is. It's all one big plothole anyway.

It's a baby. Not anyone else.

It's not a plothole because people are assigning meaning to it that isn't really there.

longoc

01-21-2008, 01:01 AM

I dont understand why they think x-23 can kill predator x. Wasn't predator X annihilated by a sentinel and the other one died somehow that I couldn't figure out from the panels?

Vaal

01-21-2008, 01:20 AM

Mercury ripped of its skin.

Vaal

01-21-2008, 01:22 AM

Mercury ripped of its skin.

ProfeZZor X

01-21-2008, 10:03 AM

I wonder if Mercury has the capability to extract Predator X's skin, seeing that she can still "feel" it.

Butters

01-21-2008, 10:05 AM

Ladies and gents... your Captain America.

Now... back to New X-Men #46 discussion...

Wow. That is one of the most awesome covers ever. If that were a poster, I would hang it proudly.

Karthak

01-21-2008, 10:52 AM

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Ladies and gents... your Captain America.

Now... back to New X-Men #46 discussion...

Good lord, comics were immature back then, weren't they?

icareenuffforII

01-21-2008, 11:13 AM

Since the baby was born in Alaska and that's where Scott's family is from and that's where he met Madelyn Pryor and that's where Jean manifested the Phoenix when those crows went all Resident Evil Extinction.

Doesn't it just kinda make you at least wonder if the red hair/green eyed baby is connected to Jean somehow?

Last time Sinister went after a baby it was b/c he partially created it...was it ever said in McCrossover why he wanted the baby? I mean he can clone people maybe the baby's "nonestablished" parents mean they were clones created by Sinister.

Just seems rather odd to have a crossover that's remincient of Inferno and not have Jean mentioned once.

Beast

01-21-2008, 11:17 AM

Other than when Jean was refrenced several issues ago?

Sinister wants the baby cause it's the first mutant birth since M-Day. That's all.

icareenuffforII

01-21-2008, 11:23 AM

well Sinister is dead

that's all

and for the record...when was there another red haired/green eyed character in the Xmen (member or not) that wasn't somehow connected to jean?

it's iconic to jean. It'd be like if the kid was black with white hair and blue eyes you people would scream up and down "it's not storm"

It amazes me the way you peopl go on and on about Quesada and his horrible reputation then believe the man and his minions when they give you a vague answer whether or not it's jean.

Beast

01-21-2008, 11:26 AM

Other than when Jean was refrenced several issues ago?

Sinister wants the baby cause it's the first mutant birth since M-Day. That's all.

Kal

01-21-2008, 11:27 AM

I'm not sure if it's been mentioned before in this thread but has anyone noticed how the baby has red hair and green eyes... ??? At first I thought the baby could a new mutant but then there was something about the shade of the colour of her hair and eyes the reminded me of someone...... and then it clicked!

THE BABY IS JEAN GREY!!!!!

Leirus

01-21-2008, 11:29 AM

I am sure someone will hate me, but I need to say it or I would explode.

Sure, the bay is not a famous mutant... by now.

But they made sure that she can be retconned, some day, into being one.

I mean... no parents? Alaska? Red hair and green eyes? It Lets the door wide open to a retcon, Jean-related or not. I hope not, I would not like it at all... but you all know that is possible.

After all, Cables started his life as the future self of cannoball, and adam-x-who-cares-about-me-anymore was going to be the third summers brother.

Lets hope it does not happen... but...

Omega Alpha

01-21-2008, 11:29 AM

and for the record...when was there another red haired/green eyed character in the Xmen (member or not) that wasn't somehow connected to jean?

Siryn and Banshee.

That, and the baby is not red haired.

Beast

01-21-2008, 11:30 AM

Leirus

01-21-2008, 11:30 AM

icareenuffforII

01-21-2008, 11:35 AM

Siryn and Banshee.

That, and the baby is not red haired.

They have orange hair...and then you're going to say "oh that baby's hair isn't red...orange IS red, but that baby's hair is some kinda purple":D

Teh m0nk3y

01-21-2008, 11:35 AM

long live jean grey

01-21-2008, 11:36 AM

Maybe it is Jean.

Maybe she found all her pieces and was reborn as a baby but not in the traditional sense.

What if she was reborn out of flame and it was for that reason that the parents haven't been seen/mentioned at all?

Pach!

01-21-2008, 11:39 AM

icareenuffforII

01-21-2008, 11:42 AM

She was (to quote Whiptail) born "a screeching mucus and blood covered portent of their downfall"

Omega Alpha

01-21-2008, 11:50 AM

She was reborn in a maternity ward in a hospital?

In Alaska? And no one noticed how the baby had no parents and just appeared there all the sudden?

Teh m0nk3y

01-21-2008, 11:54 AM

The worst part is, whatever logical explanation that might be used, there will still be people going:

"the baby's Jean, the baby's Jean, the baby's Jean!"

long live jean grey

01-21-2008, 11:57 AM

Seriously though, where are the parents?

Red Lotus

01-21-2008, 11:58 AM

Teh m0nk3y

01-21-2008, 11:59 AM

Xavier got his groove on?

Red Lotus

01-21-2008, 12:02 PM

Xavier got his groove on?

Oh yeah he is a big time player. Every time he is able to walk he tries to screw any thing that moves.

Beast

01-21-2008, 12:07 PM

Seriously though, where are the parents?
There wasn't time to follow up on the parents in Messiah Complex.

We've been told that that plotline will be followed up after MC wraps up.

icareenuffforII

01-21-2008, 01:23 PM

The baby is Xavier's he hooked up with Fontanelle. Where do you think he was after House Of M. He traveled the world trying to repopulate the mutant community by his self.

J/K its better then saying its Jean.

:eek: wait...

wasn't there something about BlackWomb pre-MC?

In the Gambit Series BlackWomb was this woman that just kept popping out mutant babies. In fact wasn't it project BlackWomb? Xavier's father, Irene Adler, Sinister...were all involved with BlackWomb.

tunasammiches

01-24-2008, 10:25 PM

Oh, you had to ask. Now I couldn't resist.

http://www.visualmatter.net/sinistersdeathpie.jpg

Turns out it was his kryptonite.....:D

Fuggin A.

I just read this issue [I know, I'm a week late], but DAMN this was good. I felt like I was reading a really good movie. Predator X finally being in the same room as the baby and Pikie teleporting everyone to the final battle...just rocked. C&C have a real cinematic way of story telling so I think the credit goes to them. Was it me or did everyone seem awesome in this issue?? The dialog is hilarious at points [Pixie and Logan esp] and Prof. X was pretty cool in this ish. even tough he didn't really do anything.

Angel didn't do anything either, and he still wasn't as cool.

AMAZING issue. Just wanted to get my 2 cents in.

Callisto

01-25-2008, 04:42 PM

My friend, that's only at these boards. It's not like it's creating HUGE discussions at San Diego Internation Comic Con where I live at or the reports at the NY Comic cons, Chicago Comic Cons, or LA Comic Cons. The biggest fan galleries in the world and you can be damn sure that when Magneto or anyone of TRUE importance dies, fans are gonna ask those creators when they are coming back or such. Mystique? Only things that get asked in relation in accordance to her is about those movie appearances where Rebecca Romain Stamos played Magneto's sidekick. That's her truth worth to the mainstream. As for around here? Yeah...you're right. Monty is some fan of her work. Congratulations

Haven't been here long enough? I was here before you ever heard of this place. You new kids are comical.

are you kidding me? mystique is definitely well known and loved by man fans of x-men. be it the comics or the movie. her ongoing series did alot more better then the other dreadful "tunsami" line books that came out and while mystique may not be that special in your eyes she has many fans and has done alot to help form and shape the x-books into what it is today. thats why she was even brought into the movies to begin with, if mystique was so useless and pathetic as you shamefully try and make her out to be do you think she'd be in the movies?

Agent_Torpor

01-25-2008, 05:07 PM

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa262/surrealmonkey_wedding/worstblogever/Buckypwned.jpg

Ladies and gents... your Captain America.

Now... back to New X-Men #46 discussion...

I love where Bru is taking Cap.

Consider me glued. Whence Bucky recovers from a bitchslap of death and the taunts of Cap's gal pal?