The Tom Cruise Scientology Indoctrination Video! [Archive] - Page 2

Sabrinaset

01-23-2008, 05:32 PM

I think it's more the brainwashing Scientologist do.

Really, do these Hollyweird trained parrots even HAVE enough brain TO wash?

Actually the Church has kept some of Cruise's wacky behavior under wraps. Allegedly they paid off a male prostitute in the Netherlands who was going to go public with evidence of a sexual liaison between him and Cruise.

So if Tom gets tired of acting, maybe he can be a Rebublican Senator! Gentleman, start your Bathroom Stalls! *vroom vroom*

Elvis did meet with them, but walked out when he found out how much money they wanted. I'm sure the no drugs thing was a huge turn-off for him too.

I understand Scientologists have a no-jelly donut policy too.

I don't think Tom Cruise is gay. While he's suffering a decline in the past couple of years, Cruise spent two decades as the most bankable star in Hollywood and under the most intense spotlight. If he was gay sooner or later someone would have exposed him as such, as someone exposed the fact that he is nuts.

How long was Rock Hudson in the closet?

Sally Sensational

01-23-2008, 06:13 PM

Dudes...

Did you know that Xenu is my homeboy (http://youtube.com/watch?v=9JlJr8aYiy8)?

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h173/jaw0525/xenu.jpg

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f225/reedr19/banneranim6mi.gif

The Xenos

01-24-2008, 07:45 AM

Geez, our discussion here appears to be timely.

Bonking around on YouTube I noticed what happens to be the currently highest rated and most discussed video:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=JCbKv9yiLiQ

Takes balls to post that video.

Holy crap... it's Anonymous... I've heard this group.. whose site I may or may not frequent.. has been attacking Scientology and its website.

While I approve of their objectives, I'm actually quite worried that an anonymous group of hackers could pull off removing an organisation from the Internet. What happens when they look somewhere else?

I hear a similar group took down right wing radio nut Hal Tuner. I'm somewhat familiar with these guys. They're like an anarchist group of hackers.. on steroids.

Words fail me. Also, I laughed a lot:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=pPol_m8wm8Y&feature=related

"What are you afraid of?" "The group stands for nothing but good." "Scientology is total freedom. We are for total freedom."

"Put away the camera."

Holy shit.

the4thpip

01-24-2008, 08:04 AM

The whole "picking up a tranny prostitute" didn't damage Eddie Murphy's career much, nor did the Divine Brown affair stop Hugh Grant's.

Tommy

01-24-2008, 11:57 AM

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a98/thanatos101b/1_xenu-pam.jpg

Shisho

01-24-2008, 12:07 PM

I'm cool wit' it.

I ain't cool with cults. Even cults full of prostitutes.

*has a brilliant idea!*

Oh Jack. A few thousand years behind the times, but better late than never. ;)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hierodule
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_prostitution

singoalla

01-24-2008, 12:18 PM

Can they be male prostitutes who look like Johnny Depp?

Jack Zodiac

01-24-2008, 01:15 PM

Oh Jack. A few thousand years behind the times, but better late than never. ;)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hierodule
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_prostitution

Read it all wrong, Shisho. My brilliant idea was to go rent fifteen prostitutes and a hotel room with two beds so I could do the Alabama Crag Dangle. I already have a cult. ;)

Hail Lord Xenu!

Tommy

01-24-2008, 01:23 PM

Hail Lord Xenu!

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a98/thanatos101b/flyer2b4cv.jpg

Spiffy

01-24-2008, 01:30 PM

Hey, could someone loan me a cup of thetans? I'm running a bit low and can't take time to run to the store...

Actually, someone told me all I have to do is stand outside each time a volcano goes off somewhere. Xenu left some spare ones stored in the Earth's mantle layer and extra get kicked out periodically.

Jack Zodiac

01-24-2008, 01:30 PM

I like it, though I'd really love a "Xenu is my copilot" bumper sticker!

Spiffy

01-24-2008, 01:33 PM

I like it, though I'd really love a "Xenu is my copilot" bumper sticker!
Wouldn't the default sticker be "Free Xenu"? I mean he's still supposed to be locked in that cave somewhere, right? Where the "Loyal Officers" (loyal to who?) locked him up.

Jack Zodiac

01-24-2008, 01:35 PM

Stop killing my fucking jokes, Joke-Hitler! :mad:

Tommy

01-24-2008, 01:38 PM

Wouldn't the default sticker be "Free Xenu"? I mean he's still supposed to be locked in that cave somewhere, right? Where the "Loyal Officers" (loyal to who?) locked him up.

I think you need to read this Xenu information pamphlet.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a98/thanatos101b/XENU.gif

Spiffy

01-24-2008, 01:38 PM

Stop killing my fucking jokes, Joke-Hitler! :mad:
Well, I'm just thinking the agenda has to be to help get the dude out before you can worship him...

Unless its one of those "holy only out of sight" things.

I've never quite gotten "the loyal officers". Are they heroes to the Scientologists or just more evil aliens? Supposedly they are guarding the "Xenu cave" to this very day...

I think you need to read this Xenu information pamphlet.
Ah. I wasn't aware of the radio show. Definitely proof the S-heads are liars!

Anyway, concerning that cup of thetans... I'm still looking. I need to make cookies.

Charles RB

01-24-2008, 01:41 PM

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a98/thanatos101b/XENU.gif

A new member for the Children of Xenu's Open-and-inclusive-to-everyone Circle!

And you shall be called... Tract-Man. And you shall breathe in space.

Spiffy

01-24-2008, 01:43 PM

What is the official position of The Children of Xenu on "The Gorilla Goals"?

Also, I'm kind of assuming now that if those Marcab Confederacy dudes really existed, I bet they were real party animals instead of the brainwashing slugoids, the Scientologists want to portray them as!

Jack Zodiac

01-24-2008, 01:45 PM

What is the official position of The Children of Xenu on "The Gorilla Goals"?

Who doesn't love an amusement park? Scientologists, that's who! :mad:

Charles RB

01-24-2008, 01:49 PM

What is the official position of The Children of Xenu on "The Gorilla Goals"?

As Jack says, that just shows Scientologists hate fun.

And that they are also peddling hate and loathing of one of our fellow simians and closest genetic relatives. Gorillas are intelligent creatures who just want to live their lives in peace, presenting them as sinister is just wrong.

Spiffy

01-24-2008, 01:58 PM

Digging through this tissue of S-head lies is a real chore.

I mean they claim "Incident I" was 4 quadrillion years ago. That's when the Thetans first appeared according to their nutty perversions of Lord Xenu's teachings, right?

However they also claim there were at least 4 other brainwashing sessions previous to that, going back as far as 70 trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion years!

Help me, Lord Xenu! What's the truth there? Obviously these dudes are confused!

Incident I, by the way, is (according to those nasty liars!):

The unsuspecting thetan was subjected to a loud snapping noise followed by a flood of luminescence, then saw a chariot followed by a trumpeting cherub. After a loud set of snaps, the thetan was overwhelmed by darkness. This is described as the implant opening the gateway to this universe, meaning that these traumatic memories are what separates thetans from their static (natural, godlike) state.

Of course if they were godlike already, how did the earlier so-called "evil warlords" succeed in doing stuff like "the Black Thetan Goals":

in a glade surrounded by the stone heads of "black thetans" who spat white energy at the trapped thetan". The goals included such things as "To End, To be Dead, To be Asleep" and so on.

Or the Bear Goals:

instead of a mechanical gorilla a mechanical or live bear was used, and the motion was even more violent." They were implanted by "a group called, I think, "The Brothers of the Bear" and were the ancestors of the Hoipolloi.

Lies! What liars these S-boys are! Xenu needs to clear the deeper truths up! I mean Mechanical Bears in pre-universe existing times sound like some FUN when everything had to be pretty monotonous otherwise. And saying those thetans were evil simply because they were black? #&*ing racist Scientologists! Also, dudes... if I was sitting in eternal whatever and saw a chariot and a cherub, I'd be PSYCHED! Why are the Scientologists bitching and moaning about that happening?

DaeJi

01-24-2008, 02:03 PM

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a98/thanatos101b/XENU.gif

Wow, Xenu seems like a totally rad guy now!

Seriously, though, I NEED Xenu shirts.

Charles RB

01-24-2008, 02:04 PM

Help me, Lord Xenu! What's the truth there?

The truth is... L Ron Hubbard was really bad at math.

Tommy

01-24-2008, 02:30 PM

And saying those thetans were evil simply because they were black? #&*ing racist Scientologists!

Don't they know all white people were created by a process of grafting the "black germ" to a "white germ" from the original black population of the world by the scientist Yakub? It took 600 years for Yakub and his successors to fully whiten his creations. This was achieved under a despotic regime on the island of Patmos.

Spiffy

01-24-2008, 03:18 PM

Don't they know all white people were created by a process of grafting the "black germ" to a "white germ" from the original black population of the world by the scientist Yakub? It took 600 years for Yakub and his successors to fully whiten his creations. This was achieved under a despotic regime on the island of Patmos.
It seems to me that this "Black Thetan" thing must be at the heart of why Tommy hasn't been able to bring over Will Smith. Oh, also, because Will Smith isn't an idiot.

Doug E. Fresh on the other hand is totally an LRH bitch...

The Scientology Center in Harlem is obviously a last ditch effort to try and influence Will.

sk716

01-24-2008, 05:29 PM

LOLZ!!!!

http://www.budapesttimes.hu/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4412&Itemid=1

Church of Scientology website being attacked by hackers
Sunday, 20 January 2008

Wikinews has learned that according to an internet posting made just over 24 hours ago, the Church of Scientology's website is being attacked by hackers, causing the site to shut down.

The attack was launched on Wednesday by a user calling himself "Anonymous", on the website "Project Chanology". The "History" section of the site explains, in a satirical fashion, that the incident was prompted by the Church of Scientology's attempts to remove a promotional video featuring Scientologist Tom Cruise from YouTube. Though YouTube is complying with the Church of Scientology's requests to take down the video, other sites such as Gawker.com have stated that they will keep hosting the video.

Currently, the site is up, but it's taking forever to load. The server is obviously under attack.

Charles RB

01-24-2008, 06:02 PM

I bet the cult will release a statement claiming people want to erase dissenting views, and they will feel NO IRONY.

The Xenos

01-25-2008, 02:19 AM

uuuuuuuuuuh.. I have no idea who these Anonymous people are. Yeah. Lulz. :rolleyes:

PatrickG

01-25-2008, 03:31 AM

The whole "picking up a tranny prostitute" didn't damage Eddie Murphy's career much, nor did the Divine Brown affair stop Hugh Grant's.

Didn't hurt Nicholson or deNiro either.

the4thpip

01-25-2008, 03:40 PM

I heart Jerry O'Connell! (http://www.wwtdd.com/post.phtml?pk=3418)

Sally Sensational

01-25-2008, 05:17 PM

I heart Jerry O'Connell! (http://www.wwtdd.com/post.phtml?pk=3418)

Gotta wonder if Cruise has called him and told him he'll never work in Hollywood again yet.

Spiffy

01-25-2008, 08:52 PM

Gotta wonder if Cruise has called him and told him he'll never work in Hollywood again yet.
Even funnier... they've worked together.

Remember Jerry McGuire? O'Connell had 5th billing.

Matt Doc Martin

01-25-2008, 09:14 PM

No trip to Clearwater THIS weekend. But next Friday or Saturday is a lock.

Larry Dixon

01-25-2008, 10:43 PM

..."in a glade surrounded by the stone heads of "black thetans" who spat white energy at the trapped thetan"...

When I get stoned head, they swallow my white energy, they don't spit.

Sally Sensational

01-26-2008, 11:08 AM

Even funnier... they've worked together.

Remember Jerry McGuire? O'Connell had 5th billing.

I would say that maybe, perhaps, Tom might have found that funny. But I have a feeling that they have already cleared out his sense of humor thetan.

Matt Doc Martin

01-26-2008, 11:24 AM

..."in a glade surrounded by the stone heads of "black thetans" who spat white energy at the trapped thetan"...

When I get stoned head, they swallow my white energy, they don't spit.

It's like bert took over your posting ability.

Charles RB

01-26-2008, 11:27 AM

No trip to Clearwater THIS weekend. But next Friday or Saturday is a lock.

You're a braver man than I.

Spiffy

01-26-2008, 01:14 PM

I suggest someone rename this topic: "Random question for Scientologists". :D

Crowley

01-26-2008, 11:10 PM

From The V:
http://www.thebadandugly.com/2008/01/25/internet-war-against-scientology-has-begun/
A NOTORIOUS group of internet users known as “Anonymous” have taken down a Scientology website after declaring war on the church.

Anonymous, whose membership included hackers, has begun a “third wave” of attacks in the week-old operation dubbed “Project Chanology”.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCbKv9yiLiQ

Jack Zodiac

01-26-2008, 11:32 PM

So, my girlfriend's coworker was bored a couple days ago and found himself downtown in the area of our local Dianetics center. He though, "hey, why the fuck not?" and went inside to see if he could talk to somebody. And he was really cool, y'know. Obviously not there to start shit, just went inside to talk to somebody, and this woman comes out to talk to him and asks him why he's there and he says he just wants to know about the church and if she had any pamphlets or anything he could take home or just read there.

So she goes away for a minute and comes back and asks him to leave and that she doesn't want any trouble.

Now, here's what I think happened. This guy's in his early twenties, he works at GameStop, he looks kinda nerdy, he's not a mess but he's kind of unkempt, and he rolls into a Dianetics center shortly after Project Chanology starts. I think they're profiling people. :p

Spiffy

01-27-2008, 12:36 AM

So they now specifically look for people who LOOK stupid?

Okay, maybe that's not so different from before...

Basically their wagons are in a circle.

the4thpip

01-27-2008, 04:50 AM

In one corner: the governments of Germany and Morocco, an army of anonymous Internet nerds (possibly led by Earth Prime's Barbara Gordon, for all we know) and Jerry O'Connell.

In the other corner, Tom Cruise and his legion of pod people.

We're going to need more popcorn!!

Flamebird

01-27-2008, 05:51 AM

the4thpip

01-27-2008, 06:20 AM

But Jerry is like butter.

http://bp0.blogger.com/_jQUwidLCYwY/RkLyXnw-1wI/AAAAAAAACQM/RPASqrqYZDE/s1600/Jerry_UW.jpg

Of course in his youth, he was more like a butter ball:

http://kinsman.epix.net/patricia/images/gcvt2.jpg

Charles RB

01-27-2008, 01:49 PM

In one corner: the governments of Germany and Morocco, an army of anonymous Internet nerds (possibly led by Earth Prime's Barbara Gordon, for all we know) and Jerry O'Connell.

Also the BBC and John Sweeney, the man so awesome he apologises for journalistic unprofessionalism when losing his rag in the face of 90 minutes of Holocaust babies-being-killed footage.

Linkara

01-27-2008, 03:52 PM

It's amazing how much Jerry O'Connel looks like him in that video. O.o

It's the laughing parts that really get it down, though. :D

4PointOh

01-27-2008, 04:46 PM

Ooooooooooooooooooh! I want magic powers, too!

I wonder if they have power rings and magic lassos.

sk716

01-27-2008, 06:26 PM

Can I get a w00t! for Anonymous...

http://partyvan.info/index.php/Project_Chanology/Raid0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cGtUd_zBEA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhIRbGAtGBc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0_wPYodbIM

They've been busy.

Charles RB

01-27-2008, 07:31 PM

Can I get a w00t! for Anonymous...

http://partyvan.info/index.php/Project_Chanology/Raid0

Legally, that's criminal damage - but personally, I'm not that bothered about the damage done by sticking bits of paper on a window so I say "w00t!".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cGtUd_zBEA

Giving out papers with a political statement? That's utterly legal and he's untouchable by the cult and doing what they (legally) do and debating a Scientologist (who proves he is either lying or factually wrong by denying the existence of convicted criminal acts), so a big "w00t!" to him!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhIRbGAtGBc

Organising a public political protest? W00T!

Spiffy

01-27-2008, 07:59 PM

While Anonymous have hit the problem like a bunch of 13 year olds, the net result has been that OTHERS have taken the new higher profile examinations of Scientology's evils as an oppurtunity to hit them where it REALLY hurts--by spreading INFORMATION.

Even after the Cruise couch jumping, if you asked most people about Scientology they'd think it was simply a nutty but harmless religion, not the dangerous cult it really is. But I think that's beginning to change, and as immature as Anonymous is, they get at least partial credit for that.

Some new stuff:

Defamer article on an author threatened: http://defamer.com/348959/threatening-phone-calls-cause-author-of-scientology-expose-to-go-into-hiding

I'm not sure if this is ACTUALLY the original Anonymous, but here's a "response" to the media: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3ujR3DJ308

This is from the XENU.TV guy about Anonymous' Campaign. He makes a ton of good points: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zW466xcM0Yk

This video lays out the threat of Scientology in a much more direct way than most. While it only alludes to the hard facts, after watching it its pretty easy to track the stuff down yourself: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oM-LeRLiqA0

A mixed bag, but it has some SCARY stuff in it. A lot of this is recut from the full length version of the video we've already seen. The short version most of us have seen before only focused on the "jokey" parts, not the scary parts: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jsIekN4ZsA
more:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxOJmffRVbA

And this one is a MUST WATCH:
Another Scientology "video" thanks again to Defamer: This time, Kirstie Allie. also some scary dudes in suits - http://defamer.com/348114/newly-unearthed-scientology-orientation-video-reveals-churchs-mind-control-tactics-but-without-it-kirstie-alley-would-be-dead

The nuttiest part of the video is the early part where it discussed how L. Ron could do anything. ANYTHING! (and you thought the part about Government mind control programs was the nutty part? Nah...)

The funny thing is that the video plays like an SNL Skit. Except from people who are COMPLETELY SERIOUS and COMPLETELY INSANE. And who want to take over the world (although that part I suppose isn't as obvious from it).

Charles RB

01-27-2008, 08:05 PM

The link to a download of that vid was done a few pages ago.

Spiffy

01-27-2008, 08:12 PM

The link to a download of that vid was done a few pages ago.
The Kirstie Allie one, you mean?

Yeah, we've had more than a few repeats here, I guess. The thing is Kirstie's part is almost tacked on.

Some of that other stuff in my last post is piss-your-pants-scary too though.

Spiffy

01-27-2008, 08:28 PM

Alternate tellings of the Story of Xenu. Yes, this gets away from talking about how dangerous these guys are, but hey, we need a comedy break:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQ7ztiqXpts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tk4wu-5DLNs (very sophisticated!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8dbUV1VKCo (a bit long but interesting)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKSikGvFay0 (a lot of us have seen this one before)

Hey... is this one from you CHURCH OF XENU dudes? COOL! I GET IT NOW! (I'm sure this has been posted already, but its COOL! Xenu is my homeboy and I just want to check to see if this has gotten the attention it deserves...)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73-NdRrWRn0

Lovely song!

Charles RB

01-27-2008, 09:07 PM

Hey... is this one from you CHURCH OF XENU dudes?

That's cool, but nah - it makes Xenu sound like an overlord. Everyone knows he's a cool dude out to help us out of niceness! He wants us to know there is something worth living for, something worth fighting for, even something worth dying for - and if one man can stand tall, there is hope for us all...

...somewhere... somewhere in the SPIRIT OF MAN!

(UUUUUUULLAAAAAAAA!)

Spiffy

01-27-2008, 09:56 PM

That's cool, but nah - it makes Xenu sound like an overlord. Everyone knows he's a cool dude out to help us out of niceness! He wants us to know there is something worth living for, something worth fighting for, even something worth dying for - and if one man can stand tall, there is hope for us all...

...somewhere... somewhere in the SPIRIT OF MAN!

(UUUUUUULLAAAAAAAA!)
But in that video you can clearly see that's he's helping starving children, people on park benches who are depressed, and oppressed volcanoes! That's all stuff a cool dude would do!

Sure there's this whole "he's our lord" thing, but I think that could be due to some overenthusiastic thetans who are so excited to meet or speak to him that they misinterpret his niceness as overlordyness.

Sarah Beach

01-27-2008, 10:56 PM

I had to chuckle at that orientation clip (the one with Kirstie).... The little "dramatised" discussion at the "Life Exhibit", where the expert claims that because of his writings L.Ron was a "household name".

"Household name"??? Not in my household, and I was reading science fiction from sixth or seventh grade onward. We had stuff in the household predating Star Trek. Nope. No L.Ron. The name met absolutely nothing to me, and I knew a lot of folks in SF fandom. It wasn't until I moved to LA in 1984 that I ever heard the name. Boy! was it a shock to learn that he was a famous SF writer! Asimov I knew; Arthur C. Clarke; Heinlein; Harlan Ellison; Silverberg.... Roger Zelazny, Chip Delany, Lester Del Rey.... those names I knew. Hubbard? Nope.

Hybrid2

01-28-2008, 02:51 AM

Teh m0nk3y

01-28-2008, 06:23 AM

Interesting enough:
The website that hosted the /i/ board for the raid was targeted and put down by "hackers" that claimed not to have an opinion on scientology yet accused anonymous of "soiling the good name of LRH". Their website was in turn promptly vandalized by anonymous.

Charles RB

01-28-2008, 09:15 AM

The website that hosted the /i/ board for the raid was targeted and put down by "hackers" that claimed not to have an opinion on scientology yet accused anonymous of "soiling the good name of LRH".

They are not keeping their cover story very straight.

Teh m0nk3y

01-28-2008, 10:06 AM

The funny part was how quickly Anonymous took down the opposition and uncovered their names and addresses.

Charles RB

01-28-2008, 11:05 AM

That's not so much funny as a reason to FEAR THE INTERNET.

Spiffy

01-28-2008, 03:45 PM

Time to put the joking aside for a moment.

Someone's done something very brave--and given the history and ruthlessness of Scientology maybe ultimately stupid.

http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5heELOXbk_8qWowwJGtd3RrEXdqgQ

Niece of Scientology's leader backs Cruise biography

1 hour ago

PARIS (AFP) — The author of a controversial new biography on celebrity Scientologist Tom Cruise has found an unexpected new ally: the niece of Scientology's current leader, David Miscavige.

In an open letter to a senior Scientology official that has been widely posted on the Internet, Jenna Miscavige Hill described how her own family was broken apart by the movement's policies.

Hill's father is Ron Miscavige, the older brother of David Miscavige, the current leader of the Church of Scientology.

"Hell, if Scientology can't keep his family together -- then why on earth should anyone believe the church helps brings families together!" she wrote.

Hill, 23, wrote the letter after Scientology attacked writer Andrew Morton's recently published book "Tom Cruise: an Unauthorised Biography". The actor is a vocal advocate for the movement and the book gives it extensive coverage.

In a 15-page statement issued on January 14, Karin Pouw, the movement's public affairs director, denounced the book as a "bigoted defamatory assault replete with lies".

But in her reply to Pouw, Hill retorted: "I am absolutely shocked at how vehemently you insist upon not only denying the truths that have been stated about the church in that biography, but then take it a step further and tell outright lies."

In particular she challenges Scientology's denial that it puts pressure on members to break all contact with relatives who do not support the movement -- a practice known as disconnection.

Hill said it was this policy that broke up her own family.

"As you well know, my parents officially left the church when I was 16 in 2000," she wrote. Having been separated from them since the age of 12, she decided not to go with them.

But she added: "Not only was I not allowed to speak to them, I was not allowed to answer a phone for well over a year, in case it was them calling me."

Hill goes on to detail how Scientology officials intercepted letters from her parents and her friends.

She was only allowed to visit her parents once a year for a maximum of four days, she wrote -- and then only after her parents threatened legal action to get access.

When she returned from these visits, she was questioned to see if her parents had said anything bad about the movement.

Asked about the Hill's statement, Pouw told AFP: "The church stands by its statement of 14 January. The church does not respond to newsgroup postings."

Contacted by AFP, Hill said she had circulated the letter to draw attention to the practice of disconnection.

"My intention is to put it on a public forum so they are pressured into changing their ways -- even if it is just to cover for themselves."

Founded in the United States in 1954 by science-fiction writer L. Ron Hubbard, the Church of Scientology was officially recognised as a religion there nearly 20 years later.

But it is often accused in Germany and other European countries, including Belgium, France and Greece, of exploiting its members financially.

Morton's book is currently at the top of the New York Times bestseller list for hardback non-fiction after its first week on sale.

I don't know if she's still a practicing Scientologist (I hope not) but this can't go well for her. They may wait until the public eye is off of her, but I fear for this girl now.

http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/by-name/j/jenna-miscavige.html

Charles RB

01-28-2008, 04:35 PM

Oh wow.

That's really quite impressive of her.

I don't know if she's still a practicing Scientologist (I hope not) but this can't go well for her.

I presume she's not, based on what she's saying - though as she's the niece of the cult's leader, I'd wonder what they CAN do. The cult does anything to her, it's going to look a lot worse than it normally does; "Scientology Leader Intimidates Own Niece"? Hardly a headline they'd want.

Charles RB

01-28-2008, 04:42 PM

Here's Jenna's full letter. (http://suppressiveperson.org/spdl/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=467&Itemid=30)

Teh m0nk3y

01-29-2008, 08:06 PM

Scientology: Wise Beard Man Responds to Anonymous - Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3A3WnmcRbTQ

Response to the above:
Anonymous addresses itself
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDh-POu8w-Q&watch_response

Looks like Anonymous is committed to this.

Darediva

01-29-2008, 08:11 PM

Parody (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tySJTPJJc1Y&eurl=http://icanhascheezburger.com/) I saw on icanhascheezburger.com

Charles RB

01-29-2008, 08:17 PM

Parody (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tySJTPJJc1Y&eurl=http://icanhascheezburger.com/) I saw on icanhascheezburger.com

Class.

(10char)

Charles RB

01-29-2008, 08:21 PM

Anyone planning to join in the 10th Feb global protests outside Scientology branches? (I'm contemplating the Manchester one if I can manage the effing long trip)

Teh m0nk3y

01-29-2008, 08:39 PM

Thinking about organizing a group of my friends for feb.10

Scientology Raid Around The World 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8pXp8jars0&NR=1

Scientology: Wise Beard Man Responds to Anonymous - Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8FiDLY-XSQ&feature=related

Cam63

01-29-2008, 09:05 PM

I predict a climatic Deathstar battle.

...or we just ignore the silly wankers.

Spiffy

01-29-2008, 09:15 PM

I predict a climatic Deathstar battle.

...or we just ignore the silly wankers.
Ignoring the problem is how they got so much influence. If they were harmless there'd be no issue. But they aren't.

At the very least, even if someone isn't the type to protest or letter write, there's simply the benefit of knowing enough to make sure nobody you know or love is taken in by these people. Or perhaps knowing which businesses or people in Hollywood turn right around and dish profits we send their way right back to a cult. I mean I certainly don't want to put any more money in Tom Cruise's pocket after this, for example.

Cam63

01-29-2008, 09:28 PM

Slapping sometimes works.

Sabrinaset

01-29-2008, 09:29 PM

Can't we get Rick Olney to do their PR? The place would collapse within weeks.

Cam63

01-29-2008, 09:35 PM

That is insanely genius, Doc.

Tobias March

01-30-2008, 02:20 AM

Spiffy

01-30-2008, 02:39 AM

I've been invited along to an Anon demonstration (or a demonstration in support of Anon, I'm not quite clear on that) shortly.

My problem with this is while I'm amused by the leaks of the video and the scientology dictionary and such, I'm not sure I want to lower myself to the same 'fairplay', harassment tactics as the scientologists have used.

Basically I don't want to fight fire with fire. I would prefer if the legal system seized their estates and charged them back taxes for income earned.
Of all the possible things to do, I think public demonstrations are both the most legal AND the most moral. Certainly infinitely more than taking down websites or vague threatening statements made over the Internet. In fact, public demonstration in front of Scientology properties has gone on for YEARS, conducted by all of the legitimate Cult fighting organizations. Heck, technically even the posting of those videos of Cruise skirted legality. But demonstrations? That's a respected American tradition, as long as it doesn't get violent.

For your own peace of mind, perhaps check and see if its a "support Anon" rally, because I suppose that implies you support their methods, or if its legitimately supposed to be a demonstration built around protesting Scientology. I've seen the "ads" promoting these demonstrations on YouTube, but its not clear to me either.

Actually, I break with Anonymous on one other major thing BESIDES their less-than-legal methods. They've made it quite clear that they are acting merely against Scientology's leadership as a corporate entity. Me, personally, I'm just as bothered by Cruise and his Hollywood elite, because I think most of them have to be perfectly aware of the "truth" of how their religion conducts itself. I don't think I'll be anywhere near any of the cities those demonstration will be in, but if I WAS, just because I heard her on the radio blathering aggressively about Scientology a few years back, I'd bring a "Shove it, Leah Remini" sign. :) I mean I'm mostly joking, but I definitely think that people can't continue to treat the fact that these folks support this cult as if its some kind of harmless quirk.

Copper

01-30-2008, 08:01 AM

Charles RB

01-30-2008, 08:40 AM

I've been invited along to an Anon demonstration (or a demonstration in support of Anon, I'm not quite clear on that) shortly.

Scientology's reached out into Ireland? :(

Jeff Wayne, huh. I would have gone with the "With just a handful of men...we'll start all over agaaaaaaaaaain!" bit. :D

Or "the chances of anything coming from Mars are a billion to one, he said... *points at photo of L Ron Hubbard* BUT STILL THEY COME!".

singoalla

01-30-2008, 10:06 AM

Actually, I break with Anonymous on one other major thing BESIDES their less-than-legal methods. They've made it quite clear that they are acting merely against Scientology's leadership as a corporate entity. Me, personally, I'm just as bothered by Cruise and his Hollywood elite, because I think most of them have to be perfectly aware of the "truth" of how their religion conducts itself. I don't think I'll be anywhere near any of the cities those demonstration will be in, but if I WAS, just because I heard her on the radio blathering aggressively about Scientology a few years back, I'd bring a "Shove it, Leah Remini" sign. :) I mean I'm mostly joking, but I definitely think that people can't continue to treat the fact that these folks support this cult as if its some kind of harmless quirk.

I'm extremely bothered, and extremely upset, that celebreties can keep advertising for something as vile as Scientology. It's made up lies, and since they're famous and wealthy they're relatively safe. Unlike the poor saps they trick to join up.

People can have any opinion they want, but what Tom Cruise is doing is blatant abuse of his "star power". If he's not aware how Scientology treats their average members who aren't celebreties, he's ignorant and stupid. If he IS aware of how they treat them, he's downright evil.

Sally Sensational

01-30-2008, 10:44 AM

Copper

01-30-2008, 10:48 AM

I thought it was just another case of "those wierdos in Hollywood" until I started doing some reading on Scientology, and I even took some documentaries out of the library focusing on it. (Ok, I do this stuff out of morbid curiousity.)

At first I thought it was satirical--I don't claim to be particularly intelligent or anything but I couldn't fathom the idea that people actually take something that read like a 1930s pulp magazine story seriously. The documentaries showed people using the "E-Meters", and I was reminded of the alien intelligence boosting device in Forbidden Planet. And going by the Tom Cruise video it seems like they deliberately change meanings of words to make the "religion" as unintelligible as possible unless you totally buy into it.

Then I got to the "Sea Organization" which pretty much proved to me what an A-1 nutjob Hubbard must have been. Billion year contracts? (Sounded suspiciously like a warped version of reincarnation to hear them explain it.)
That, in addition to atrocities like locking kids in lockers while on their voyages and denying people rest and food and water definitely moved Scientologists from "just a bunch of kooks" to seriously scary in my view.

Teh m0nk3y

01-30-2008, 11:05 AM

"Anonymous" might have have some questionable methods, but the theatrics were to gain attention.
This has made people who wouldn't normally care, curious. Prompting them to look up on the practices of Scientology.
It has even gotten, what would normally be, apathetic youngsters to do something. The most surprising part is the encouragement towards peaceful protesting and picketing using Ghandi tech.

Spiffy

01-30-2008, 04:47 PM

I'm extremely bothered, and extremely upset, that celebreties can keep advertising for something as vile as Scientology. It's made up lies, and since they're famous and wealthy they're relatively safe. Unlike the poor saps they trick to join up.

People can have any opinion they want, but what Tom Cruise is doing is blatant abuse of his "star power". If he's not aware how Scientology treats their average members who aren't celebreties, he's ignorant and stupid. If he IS aware of how they treat them, he's downright evil.
I'm personally of the opinion that people should let them know how they feel. Not violently or threateningly, but stuff like letter writing campaigns and pledges not to "give their business" to productions with these people in them. All legal and above board.

There's a high level of sanctimony from people like Jenna Elfman and Leah Remini, if you've ever heard them asked about Scientology. They fall back on tired cliches about religious persecution and "haters" lying rather than face the fact that its a cult, not a religion, and a cult that they've been receiving the super-soft-peddled version of. But many of them have been to David Miscavige's "Gold base" resort (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_base), where most of the craziest crap goes on (including lower down Sea Orgers typically being worked like dogs, or slaves), and looked the other way.

And as a culture, until now, we've looked at some of these actors as, at worst, harmless kooks for this.

And going by the Tom Cruise video it seems like they deliberately change meanings of words to make the "religion" as unintelligible as possible unless you totally buy into it.

It's deliberate, yes. It's actually intended not only to make them incomprehensible to many of us, but ALSO to ensure that kids raised in the more extreme Scientology divisions can't understand outside sources accurately. It's a form of mind/reality control.

Click here (http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Library/Shelf/wakefield/us-08.html) if you want to be freaked out a bit.

sk716

01-30-2008, 04:47 PM

The Xenos

01-30-2008, 09:14 PM

Be very wary of the 10th of February

A friend just sent me this link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrkchXCzY70

It has come to the attention of Anonymous that there are a number of you out there who do not clearly understand what we are or why we have undertaken our present course of action. Contrary to the assumptions of the media, Anonymous is not simply "a group of super hackers". Anonymous is a collective of individuals united by an awareness that someone must do the right thing, that someone must bring light to the darkness, that someone must open the eyes of a public that has slumbered for far too long. Among our numbers you will find individuals from all walks of life - lawyers, parents, IT professionals, members of law enforcement, college students, veterinary technicians and more. Anonymous is everyone and everywhere. We have no leaders, no single entity directing us - only the collective outrage of individuals, guiding our hand in the current efforts to bring awareness.We want you to be aware of the very real dangers of Scientology. We want you to know about the gross human rights violations committed by this cult. We want you to know about Lisa McPhearson. We want you to know about former members of Scientology's private navy, SeaOrg, who were forced to have abortions so that they could continue in service to the church. We want you to know about Scientology's use of child labor and their gulags. We want you to know about Operation Freakout and Paulette Cooper. We want you to know about Operation Snow White and Scientology's efforts to infiltrate the government of the United States of America.We want you to know about all of these things that have been swept under the rug for far too long. The information is out there. It is yours for the taking. Arm yourself with knowledge. Be very wary of the 10th of February. Anonymous invites you to join us in an act of solidarity. Anonymous invites you to take up the banner of free speech, of human rights, of family and freedom. Join us in protest outside of Scientology centers world wide. We are Anonymous. We are Legion. We do not forgive. We do not forget. We will be heard. Expect us.

Funny how V for Vendetta masks and tropes have been adpoted by these people.

Hurricane

01-30-2008, 09:26 PM

That the Scientologists don't want you to see. It's being pulled from a number of sites under the threat of legal action. Defamer still has it:

http://defamer.com/344987/the-tom-cruise-indoctrination-video-scientologists-dont-want-you-to-see

Here is an edited version of the more "creeptastic" moments:

http://defamer.com/345201/defamers-top-five-creeptastic-moments-from-the-tom-cruise-scientology-video-you-know-the-one

It's sad what he has become. I do have sympathy for him.

What a fuckin' freak.

Jack Zodiac

01-30-2008, 09:34 PM

Funny how V for Vendetta masks and tropes have been adpoted by these people.

"Be wary?" Lame, Anonymous. This is why you guys need better organization instead of being a biological mass of randomness.

Charles RB

01-30-2008, 10:01 PM

Not really - as a random mass, the Scientologists and their League of Extraordinarily Dodgy Lawyers can't hit back as easily. No obvious and visible target to hit if it's a loosely-affiliated randomly-organised mass of individuals.

Sarah Beach

01-31-2008, 12:04 PM

This seems to be turning into a more general "comment on Scientology" thread... I have no problem with that.

From today's news WENN news snippets on IMDb ----
Nancy "Bart Simpson" Cartwright Gives $10 Million to Scientology

Actress Nancy Cartwright, the voice behind cartoon character Bart Simpson, has been awarded Scientology's Patron Laureate Award after donating $10 million to the faith in 2007. Cartwright's gift - almost two times her annual salary from The Simpsons - puts her top of a list of celebrity benefactors, who have handed over their hard-earned cash to the Church of Scientology. She gave even more than Tom Cruise - who is reported to be the controversial religion's second-in-command - who has donated $5 million in the last four years. According to Impact magazine, Kirstie Alley gave $5 million last year and has picked up the Diamond Meritorious Award. Fellow followers John Travolta and Kelly Preston gave $1 million each and were awarded the Gold Meritorious Award, while Priscilla Presley was handed the Patron Award for a donation of $50,000. The prizes were handed out at a top secret ceremony in Florida last summer, according to the American publication.

That is soooo contrary to my (Christian) upbringing. Awards --- graded (or scaled) awards for gifts to "the church". Obviously, in Scientology only the GREEN matters. The widow's mite (where she gave ALL she had, though it was only a penny) would get NO respect from them.

Phtah!

Tommy

01-31-2008, 12:50 PM

The widow's mite (where she gave ALL she had, though it was only a penny) would get NO respect from them.

Now that's just not true. She could be slave labor.

Jack Zodiac

01-31-2008, 01:47 PM

That is soooo contrary to my (Christian) upbringing. Awards --- graded (or scaled) awards for gifts to "the church". Obviously, in Scientology only the GREEN matters. The widow's mite (where she gave ALL she had, though it was only a penny) would get NO respect from them.

Phtah!

Hence the clever "$cientology" jokes. :p Nice comparison with the widow, though. And I agree. I'm not a follower of any religion, but even I can appreciate the worth of a small donation when you have nothing than a large donation when you have everything, no matter what you're donating towards.

Hybrid2

01-31-2008, 03:22 PM

Bart is a scientologist?:eek:
NOOOOOOOO!!!!!

Sabrinaset

01-31-2008, 05:13 PM

http://dlisted.com/files/xenu1.jpg

Charles RB

01-31-2008, 06:30 PM

I see Xenu's handing out his new book to people for free.

Lovely chap. :)

the4thpip

02-01-2008, 02:07 PM

Has anybody posted the deleted scenes yet??

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=On90wgEFzP0

Spiffy

02-02-2008, 06:02 PM

Bwah. Tommy's "War of the Worlds" is on ABC tonight.

Aliens! (also as I recall, a real "bomb" of a movie...)

Charles RB

02-02-2008, 07:38 PM

That's not the real War Of The Worlds. There's no song about Thunderchild or the Spirit of Man. :mad:

singoalla

02-03-2008, 06:51 AM

I'm voting for stupid.

Works fer me.
:D

singoalla

02-03-2008, 06:55 AM

This seems to be turning into a more general "comment on Scientology" thread... I have no problem with that.

From today's news WENN news snippets on IMDb ----

That is soooo contrary to my (Christian) upbringing. Awards --- graded (or scaled) awards for gifts to "the church". Obviously, in Scientology only the GREEN matters. The widow's mite (where she gave ALL she had, though it was only a penny) would get NO respect from them.

Phtah!

That goes against humanism, christianity and most other religions as well. Except for maybe "Christmas": Be good all year, get the Big Prize at the end.

Time to stop watching the Simpsons then I suppose. And a bunch of other things. The amount of movies I've chosen not to has increased rapidly as I find out more and more celebreties are Scientologists. Please tell me Johnny Depp's not part of them, or I *will* have to launch Operation Celeb Rescue.

ChthonicSpirit

02-03-2008, 12:43 PM

Has anybody posted the deleted scenes yet??

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=On90wgEFzP0

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHEEHEEHEEHHEEHEEHEEHEEHEEHEEHHEE

*choke* Gasp*

Heh heh heh heh.

the4thpip

02-04-2008, 03:40 AM

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHEEHEEHEEHHEEHEEHEEHEEHEEHEEHHEE

*choke* Gasp*

Heh heh heh heh.

...as tooth paste!

Linkara

02-05-2008, 08:23 AM

Ukulele music FTW. ^_~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRvm0PfayR8&eurl=http://occasionalsuperheroine.blogspot.com/

Tobias March

02-05-2008, 11:23 AM

Ukulele music FTW. ^_~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRvm0PfayR8&eurl=http://occasionalsuperheroine.blogspot.com/

yoinked

rilly cute! :)

Matt Doc Martin

02-05-2008, 06:12 PM

Friday my office was getting a fresh coat of paint, new carpet, new desks and shiny cubicle walls. So rather than opt for the lottery of "will my crap work if I am moved to another location?", I took the day off. And decided to drive to Clearwater to do some Scientologist hunting. (Will I find Tom Cruise? L Rob Hubbard? Lord Xenu?)

The drive was fairly uneventful, save for a wee bit of traffic around 275, but that is nothing new. The directions I printed were fairly solid and I found the Scientology Headquarters in decent time.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v91/docmartin72/house115.jpg

It is near a Jamba Juice, where I parked so I could be all "legitimate like". Plus, I had to pee like a racehorse as I had had 4 Dr Peppers before the drive. One Pomegranate Paradise Jamba Juice later, I wandered to the Fort Harrison Hotel. I was armed with a number of one-sheet pages detailing the crimes of L. Ron Hubbard, some of the wackier beliefs, a list of people who died in Scientology hands, and so on. After all.....knowledge is power! And since I have seen many a video of a guy with a camera getting jumped by 3-4 Scientologists, I was ready to paper cut them!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v91/docmartin72/house110.jpg

It is a formidable building (or two, counting the skyway connecting across the street to another.

The real bummer? NO ONE approached me and NO ONE was on the streets nearby. Meanwhile, I am going around the building repeatedly, taking pictures, and attempting to take video with my digital camera (btw...I need a larger memory card for that)

A car of young girls drove by and yelled something, presumably thinking I was a freak, um, Scientologist. I yelled back "Free Xenu!", and resumed my walk/inspection.

There is a heavily vegetated courtyard, with lots of lighting and cameras in the balconies. There was a high security fence, but I am tall.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v91/docmartin72/house104.jpg

and a close up:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v91/docmartin72/Copyofhouse104.jpg

Matt Doc Martin

02-05-2008, 06:12 PM

After 3 circuits and NO action, I decided to pack it in. I took a couple more pictures and noticed, in the distance, a lady in navy blue giving me the hairy eyeball. I took some more shots, flashed her the V sign, and returned to my car. And got a LONG distance shot of her.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v91/docmartin72/house113.jpg

The freakiest thing I saw?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v91/docmartin72/house117.jpg

Ron Paul supporters at an organic juice shop? Didn't see THAT one coming.

The drive home over a LONG bridge afforded me some nice views.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v91/docmartin72/house119.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v91/docmartin72/house120.jpg

Spiffy

02-05-2008, 10:54 PM

The obvious explanation is that they are laying low. A mere month ago they probably would have reacted very differently.

Jack Zodiac

02-05-2008, 11:28 PM

That, and Clearwater is their stronghold. They don't have to be as defensive there as they do in places like New York or LA. Clearwater's their Latveria. As awesome as Matt is, he isn't goin' all Reed Richards up in that bitch firing time travel beams at Scientologists and chucking infant L. Rons at them, so they don't have to get that riled up.

Still, muchos huevos to Matt for actually goin'! If I were closer, I'd be creepin' around that place whenever I could. I bet it's freaky as shit, the air thick with disembodied thetans crying out for revenge!

the4thpip

02-06-2008, 03:26 AM

I crossed that long bridge last year, I think, when I accompanied the boyfriend on a business trip to Tampa. we nearly ran out of gas on that bridge!

Matt Doc Martin

02-06-2008, 05:11 AM

I crossed that long bridge last year, I think, when I accompanied the boyfriend on a business trip to Tampa. we nearly ran out of gas on that bridge!

There is a sign that warns you to check your gas.

If you ever are in Tampa/Orlando again, let me know.

sk716

02-06-2008, 04:02 PM

Hey Matt, next time you go, get a sandwich board that says Free Xenu! on one side and $cientology Kills! on the other. That ought to get their attention.

The nearest Scientology center to me is in Memphis.

However, there is one in Dallas (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=church+of+scientology&near=Dallas,+TX&fb=1&cid=0,0,10059614768244800362&sa=X&oi=local_result&resnum=1&ct=image) and doesn't seem to be too far from Zeus (http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Zeus%20Comics%20and%20Collectibles%20Inc&ll=32.84716796875%2C-96.78889130843731&spn=0.26513671875%2C0.3784122405976831&sll=32.792969%2C-96.800914&sspn=1.060547%2C1.513649).

Anybody thinking what I'm thinking?

Flamebird

02-06-2008, 04:06 PM

Matt Doc Martin

02-06-2008, 04:37 PM

the4thpip

02-06-2008, 04:40 PM

There is a sign that warns you to check your gas.

If you ever are in Tampa/Orlando again, let me know.

Sadly, the bf relocated to Georgia, so I won't be back to Florida any time soon. Unless I get a new boyfriend. Isn't Lenny Kravitz single again?

Spiffy

02-07-2008, 01:33 AM

Was this posted?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-063clxiB8I

Seems like the Anonymous boys actually listened to the Xenu TV guy. Maybe Anonymous was founded by a bunch of unruly children, but at least you can't criticize this easily.

Also, if you want a laugh, but also to be REALLY scared of how insideous Scientology is willing to be to fight all of this, watch THIS video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ijr2ReT8VpQ

The lady is question is actor and Scientologist Ruthie Heyerdahl, who's only pretending to be a third party who "has friends who are Scientologists who are all great people". She took at least 4 Scientology classes between 2002 and 2004, and no doubt many more since then. Proof - http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/by-name/r/ruthie-heyerdahl.html (other places on the web, like her MySpace page, have her full name--that's how THAT got tracked down).

EDIT - Ruthie's follow-up to being criticized for being a liar/shill for Scientology: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8I4-jzvg5A

also: here's one that's just straight humor: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLcDn1DCOOo

Teh m0nk3y

02-07-2008, 06:44 AM

Sarah Beach

02-07-2008, 12:00 PM

the4thpip

02-07-2008, 01:37 PM

Quite the accurate first search result there. (http://www.google.com/search?q=dangerous+cult&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a)

Sarah Beach

02-07-2008, 02:03 PM

Quite the accurate first search result there. (http://www.google.com/search?q=dangerous+cult&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a)

Huh?

Really, that list of results covers a whole BUNCH of very different references. Which one specifically are you referring to? Especially as regards this topic?

Ya got me confused here.

the4thpip

02-07-2008, 02:10 PM

Huh?

Really, that list of results covers a whole BUNCH of very different references. Which one specifically are you referring to? Especially as regards this topic?

Ya got me confused here.

Aren't you seeing the same top result as I am?

Scientology - Church of Scientology Official Site
Living in a Dangerous Environment · Drug and Alcohol Problems · Personalities, Emotions and How to Deal with Others ...
www.scientology.org/ - 74k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this

Sarah Beach

02-07-2008, 03:04 PM

Aren't you seeing the same top result as I am?

Interesting. Apparently not. The first site listed when I followed that link was to www.vistech.net/users/rsturge/cults.html - not a mention of Scientology in it.

The first item I got that even mentions Scientology in the header title was 8th on the list.

Curious. Wonder how that happens?

Edit to add: Wait... Pip, do you use Firefox as your browser? (the code in your link apparently mentions it) I use IE. Maybe that's what's creating different results. Weird.

Teh m0nk3y

02-07-2008, 03:20 PM

I'm also using firefox and the first that came on that list for me was Scientology.
Though it's supposedly a Googlebombing so who knows how long the main scientology page will show up on top during such searches.

the4thpip

02-07-2008, 03:47 PM

I hope that does not mean that Bill Gates is one of the pod people! :eek:

Teh m0nk3y

02-08-2008, 05:56 AM

Aaaaaaaaand Google has already removed Scientology from appearing as the top search result when googling for the term Dangerous Cult.

Stanlos

02-08-2008, 12:03 PM

It's really sad watching creepy brainwashed people talk about their beliefs. Only thing missing in Tom's wardrobe for that vid is a tinfoil hat.

. . .

But doesn't any of what he says sound or feel . . . familiar? Have we not seen this from many others before?

Teh m0nk3y

02-08-2008, 02:36 PM

Charles RB

02-08-2008, 04:03 PM

Apparently the video's from 2006 - which says a lot about how much bullshit the claims of "booby-trapping psychiatry's ecosystem" et al were.

Michael P

02-08-2008, 04:09 PM

Aaaaaaaaand Google has already removed Scientology from appearing as the top search result when googling for the term Dangerous Cult.

For those interested, they're now the number 3 result.

At #1? Presbyterians.

The Xenos

02-09-2008, 01:46 AM

New Scientology video leaked:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfu7Sr50N7U&eurl=http://glosslip.com/2008/02/07/scientology-leader-david-miscavige-explains-cos-plans-to-obliterate-pyschiatry/

That is some scary shit.

WOW. That's crazy. I don't like big pharm, but they are simply nuts in their attacks on it. They throw the baby out with the bathwater, no matter who gets killed.

Okay. Here's a crazy and totally unfounded idea. What if.. big IF.. What if Scientology was behind Ledger's death? Or at least behind the anti-prescription drug media blitz after his death?

MacQuarrie

02-09-2008, 02:37 AM

The lady is question is actor and Scientologist Ruthie Heyerdahl, who's only pretending to be a third party who "has friends who are Scientologists who are all great people". She took at least 4 Scientology classes between 2002 and 2004, and no doubt many more since then. Proof - http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/by-name/r/ruthie-heyerdahl.html (other places on the web, like her MySpace page, have her full name--that's how THAT got tracked down).

EDIT - Ruthie's follow-up to being criticized for being a liar/shill for Scientology: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8I4-jzvg5A
Actually, Ruthie Heyerdahl is not an actress or a Scientologist. She's currently a Mormon.

She's a family friend of mine. I've known her since she was 12 years old. She and her cousins are good friends of my children. I went to high school with her cousins' parents. Her parents are members of my church. They're good people.

Ruthie was a member of Scientology several years ago, mostly because her friends were members. She's one of those people who drifts from church to church and group to group, looking for answers.

Those of you who know me, take my word for it. "Anonymous" is barking up the wrong tree this time. They are engaging in a campaign of terror against an innocent young lady. She and her family have gone into hiding due to the abuse and threats they have received over this. What they are doing to her is wrong. Ruthie Heyerdahl is not a Scientologist. She is exactly what she said she is, somebody who has friends that are Scientologists, and feels compelled to defend them.

Somebody tell them to back off. She doesn't deserve this.

Crowley

02-09-2008, 02:40 AM

Kimora Simmons is a Scientologist?

First Beck, now her... my hearts breaks a little more...

MacQuarrie

02-09-2008, 02:40 AM

Heyerdahl's follow-up video that you linked to has apparently "been removed by the user". 'Cause it ain't there at the other end of your link.

Heh.

Edit to add: apparently BOTH her videos have been removed.

Hmmmmm.

She removed them because she is terrified. Somebody rattled her doorknob at 2:00 AM. She's received death threats.

MacQuarrie

02-09-2008, 02:54 AM

Okay the last voice over is creepy but again I point to Christianity and say how is it all that different from Scientology?

Christianity tells you to think for yourself. It teaches that every believer is a priest before God, with no need for a priest or intercessor (see the Epistle to the Hebrews). That's a pretty big difference right there.

Cam63

02-09-2008, 03:01 AM

Scientology gets freakier with every update.

MacQuarrie

02-09-2008, 03:12 AM

Is anybody here a member of the Operation Clambake forum, or know of anyone involved with Anonymous?

Please pass along what I posted here. Ruthie is harmless. She's an innocent, immature, flighty, impulsive young lady. All her videos are genuine; there is no scriptwriter involved. She really does just record these random thigns and post them. She's not a sleeper agent for the Scientologists, she's not involved with Scientology in any way at the moment.

But Anonymous' attack on her could very well drive her back into their arms.

Look, I've been a member of CBR for over 10 years. I designed the damn logo. You people know me. I'm also on the Board of Elders at a Christian church, part of the Assemblies of God, so you know I'm not sympathetic to the Scientologists at all. I've also known Ruthie since she was a kid, and these people are flat-out wrong about her. She's being attacked, threatened, harassed, insulted and abused for expressing an opinion.

Can somebody here help me call off the dogs?

Spiffy

02-09-2008, 04:06 AM

Can somebody here help me call off the dogs?
Unfortunately one thing Anonymous claims about itself appears to be true--there's probably no leader.

I myself used the YT email system to send a message to one of those guys posting her personal info when I saw that going on and asked the guy if he was nuts. Even assuming she WAS a Scientologist, it was an insane, dangerous, unethical and childish tactic. He emailed me back saying that he'd stop doing it but he doubted he could stop all of the other people who were. The only true collaberation between these people was that they were copying and pasting the same comment with her info from whoever first posted it.

Knowing her name, and her Scientology class background was one thing--she DID set herself up for that. As someone who's an overall skeptic I actually appreciated knowing about someone's potential bias. But the world didn't need to know her address, her phone number, the make and model of her car, her license plate #, etc.

My advice to anyone who'd listen would to be aware of the possibility that someone so stridently defending the Scientologists might being a tool of theirs, because they DO apparently use tactics like that, but that the consequence of that knowledge should simply be to stop listening to them. Or if they make fools of themselves, perhaps, yes, to laugh at their antics. That is, I confess without much shame, my usual approach. But to see that the nuttier people on YT were instead trying to seek this girl out just seemed CRAZY to me. If she was what people suspected, what good would that do? And if she wasn't? What bad COULD it do?

Laugh at her, mock her, fine. I think that's natural, and probably not unfair, and people can recover from hurt feelings. Debate her (presumably in the comments section of her videos) with logic? Great! Avoid her? That's a good option too. But harass her? People are fricking NUTS. Imagine she WAS a Scientologist. Now imagine the tool harassing someone over pro-Scientology positions puts right in the hands of Scientology's spin-masters. Its like Mark Bunker (the XENU-TV guy) has pointed out--it allows them to paint ALL of their opposition as bullies and criminals.

That's the logic you need to use if you know this girl. You can proclaim to the world that she's an innocent who made a mistake. But an even better argument to the people you are trying to reach is that EVEN IF SHE WAS WHAT THEY THOUGHT SHE IS that attacking and harassing her is the stupidest possible way to "retaliate" against Scientology. The way that actually helps their cause instead of hurting it. And then maybe a few will listen.

If I was you I'd email Mark Bunker. His email address is sitting somewhere on his XENU TV website. He has nothing to do with Anonymous but could probably reach a few of them.

Teh m0nk3y

02-09-2008, 07:58 AM

Kimora Simmons is a Scientologist?

First Beck, now her... my hearts breaks a little more...

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,329807,00.html
Kimora Lee is not a Scientologist :
Kimora Lee Simmons—celebrity designer, ex wife of Russell Simmons, and great beauty—is not happy with Scientology.

Yesterday, we had to call her press person and inform her that Kimora is being featured in a new Scientology promotional video. The sect’s chief, David Miscavige, can be seen in the video telling followers that Simmons has been distributing the group’s “Way to Happiness” propaganda pamphlet in New Jersey and Los Angeles.

The news that Simmons is somehow involved in Scientology comes around the 6-minute mark in the 8-minute video currently posted at YouTube at http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=hfu7Sr50N7U.

Miscavige, dressed in a tuxedo, seems to be addressing a large crowd in the gauche, ornate Celebrity Center in Hollywood from the same podium on which he gave Tom Cruise an Olympic-looking medal in 2004. He tells the gathering that in order to reach new recruits 12 to 18 years old, they can do better than Simmons, who “funnels booklets” in the aforementioned locales. On the screen behind him, Simmons’ face is shown.

Only one problem, though, Simmons’ publicist told me yesterday while her client was traveling. “I’ve asked everyone,” said the flack. “Kimora is not a Scientologist. We have nothing to do with this.”

Of course, Miscavige also claims support in the video for Scientology from Phillips electronics in Pakistan, Dell computers “all over Africa,” Coca Cola Pakistan, 7-Eleven in Taiwan, and Ecuador’s postal system. He says that 70 million people are now reading or in possession of “Way to Happiness.”

But mostly, Miscavige—who gave the speech at a New Year’s Eve rally at the end of 2006—has one goal: to obliterate psychiatry. He tells his listeners about the group’s progress in breaking “the dark spell cast across Earth by psychiatry.”

“We booby-trapped the entire psychiatric eco system,” Miscavige says. “We’ve already yanked 21 psychiatrists’ licenses in the last four weeks.”

Miscavige is under fire these days, by the way. His 24-year-old niece, Jenna, has left the group after being raised in it, and has a lot to say about what’s gone on behind the scenes. She’s already turned up on one syndicated show, “Inside Edition,” and will likely have more to say in the next few days, I am told.

PatrickG

02-09-2008, 10:06 AM

For those interested, they're now the number 3 result.

At #1? Presbyterians.

I just did a search.

You have to wade through the pages a little but here's what I found.

#1) Conservative Christians/Zionists/Southern Baptists/Fundamentalists Jews

#2) Liberal Christians/Methodists/Episcopalians/Presbyterians

#3) Scientology

#4) Pretty much covers everybody, particularly most Christians in rural areas:

# The spiritual group claims to have received special instructions from one or more "messengers from the sky."

# The spiritual group uses a special set of rules that you must obey or be cast out.

# The spiritual group promises eternal life in a paradise if you obey its set of rules, and threatens eternal suffering if you do not obey its set of rules.

# The spiritual group demands that you give up as much of your assests and your yearly income to it as possible.

# The members of the spiritual group call each other "brother" and "sister," even when they aren't related at all.

# The spiritual group is led by a group of enlightened masters who wear strange clothes and speak in esoteric parables.

# The spiritual group demands that you accept its teachings without reservation, even when those teachings are in direct conflict with your understanding of basic scientific knowledge.

# The spiritual group demands that you select your spouse and your closest friends from its membership.

# The spiritual group demands that you place your children in its training program.

# The spiritual group teaches that giving up your life for the sake of the spiritual group may become necessary sometime in the future.

#5) A list topped by Satanism which includes Jehovah's Witnesses but which includes Jehovah's Witnesses, Christian Scientists, Jim Jones' cult (didn't realize they were still active)

#6) Nation of Islam

#7) A blog on google bombing and how it got Scientology as the top result for "Dangerous Cult"

#8) Another article on the google bombing of scientology.

#9) Ditto

#10) A blog entry about Anonymous

From this, I have determined how to avoid joining a cult:

- Avoid die hard Democrats and Republicans. Avoid actors. Avoid rural areas. Avoid people who are into popular music. Never answer your door. Avoid people who tell you not to go to the doctor or who promise you material gain. Avoid black people (even if you are one). Avoid the internet.

Oh... And I decided to look up Seventh Day Adventists.

http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/Cults/sda/adventi.htm

http://www.macgregorministries.org/seventh_day_adventists/sda_facts.html

In my experience, Adventists are the most common Christian denomination for doctors and it's a religion composed mostly of MDs with churches that tend to be around hospitals.

So in addition to avoiding people who tell you to avoid doctors and people who play doctors on TV, please avoid doctors as well.

Sarah Beach

02-09-2008, 10:07 AM

For those interested, they're now the number 3 result.

At #1? Presbyterians.

As "dangerous cult"??? Heee! That's funny! The "everything in due and proper order" folk! Ha!

(I can laugh. I'm Presbyterian. ;) )

Charles RB

02-09-2008, 01:47 PM

Can somebody here help me call off the dogs?

The problem is, it's not a group with any central body, it's a loose collection of individuals following each other randomly. The ones on YouTube seem to listen to this guy (who's asking them to show restrain) - http://youtube.com/user/xenutv1 - and I just sent him a PM asking if he could do a vid asking them to back off.

He gets a lot of messages though, so I dunno if/when he'd read it - if you've got a Youtube account, you should probably send your own message asking him.

Charles RB

02-09-2008, 01:50 PM

EDIT: Double post

Jack Zodiac

02-09-2008, 01:53 PM

Hey! Fuck, why didn't I think of that earlier. Of course they'll listen to Mar- er, Wise Bearded Man. :p Yeah, Jim, I think he'll have a more worthwhile influence on 'em than she would herself. Or you, a third-party defendant. Good thinkin' Charles.

MacQuarrie

02-09-2008, 04:55 PM

Thanks, Charles. I saw the post you made on one of the comment threads.

I got a pretty helpful bunch of responses from that other forum, too. Hopefully it's all settling down. There's one whackjob who has phoned her home a bunch of times and gets angrier every time he calls. They've called the police on him, but nothing's happened yet.

Spiffy

02-09-2008, 05:29 PM

The problem is, it's not a group with any central body, it's a loose collection of individuals following each other randomly. The ones on YouTube seem to listen to this guy (who's asking them to show restrain) - http://youtube.com/user/xenutv1 - and I just sent him a PM asking if he could do a vid asking them to back off.

He gets a lot of messages though, so I dunno if/when he'd read it - if you've got a Youtube account, you should probably send your own message asking him.
Yes, that's the Mark Bunker guy I mentioned.

To be clear, he has nothing to do with them. At best, they listened to some degree mainly because he was the first "outsider" to take them seriously. But they don't work with one mind. So anyone dealing with them has to be aware that even the BEST appeal can't succeed 100%.

I'd be somewhat surprised if its only one guy calling her. The series of provoking posts made with all of her personal information seemed to come almost without end. It was about the 40th time when I saw it reading through comments on one of her videos that I resolved to message one of these guys, but he just claimed to have copied the info from someone else who was doing it. That's how anonymous works--they don't even necessarily know each other. Or listen to each other.

Most of the people involved probably DO want to do the right thing, but the open nature of the thing easily allows nuts to hang around the periphery. And as I said before, their downfall is likely to be that this is how Miscavige and his flunkies will paint ALL opposition to them. The persecution of a girl with tunnel vision about what she was saying, and how, isn't helping anyone but David Miscavige.

Charles RB

02-09-2008, 06:00 PM

So anyone dealing with them has to be aware that even the BEST appeal can't succeed 100%... The series of provoking posts made with all of her personal information seemed to come almost without end. It was about the 40th time when I saw it reading through comments on one of her videos that I resolved to message one of these guys, but he just claimed to have copied the info from someone else who was doing it. That's how anonymous works--they don't even necessarily know each other. Or listen to each other.

So... basically, if you're perceived as an enemy, they'll treat you just like the cult of Scientology treats ITS enemies but with less chance of brokering a ceasefire.

Bloody wonderful.

Nick Soapdish

02-09-2008, 08:25 PM

I'd be somewhat surprised if its only one guy calling her. The series of provoking posts made with all of her personal information seemed to come almost without end. It was about the 40th time when I saw it reading through comments on one of her videos that I resolved to message one of these guys, but he just claimed to have copied the info from someone else who was doing it. That's how anonymous works--they don't even necessarily know each other. Or listen to each other.

Agreed. I don't think that Anonymous is nearly as dangerous is Fox thinks it is, but it's about as easy to re-direct them as it is to push jelly up a hill.

For that matter, it wouldn't surprise me if some of the people calling her are with the CoS themselves.

So... basically, if you're perceived as an enemy, they'll treat you just like the cult of Scientology treats ITS enemies but with less chance of brokering a ceasefire.

Bloody wonderful.

At least that means that they're less effective as well.

Spiffy

02-09-2008, 08:30 PM

So... basically, if you're perceived as an enemy, they'll treat you just like the cult of Scientology treats ITS enemies but with less chance of brokering a ceasefire.

Bloody wonderful.
Not the same no, but similar enough to be a bit troubling.

Like Scientology, for example, they engage in the practice of language loading. Apparently they've invented all kinds of "lingo" that means little to nothing unless you've been clued into it. I didn't clue into this personally until I saw the word "lutz" for the hundredth time or so on the comments they tend to post.

As with the Scientologists, my guess is that the key purpose of this is to create an artificial "us vs. them" barrier.

They even fess up to this in the explanatory section of the "Code of Conduct" video they made to set the rules for tomorrow's picketing:

Rule #0: Rules #1 and #2 of the internet still apply. Your memes are not, at this juncture, something that the real world can appreciate. Although meme speak between fellow Anonymous is acceptable, focus on the target and keep it to a minimum.

Meme speak? Does that remind anyone else of "Scientologese"?

But that also clues you into other stuff. They KNOW they are co-protesting with a lot of people who have been brought into this just because of Scientology and some of the shocking stuff people have found out about them. This is a case where there's no central leader, but there clearly ARE a core group of "kids" who suddenly and unexpectedly found themselves at the core of a real cause (and aside from aberrations like harassing someone who clearly just made a dumb mistake, probably not a bad cause), and who maybe didn't quite know how to handle things. The "Meme speak" was part of their own little clubhouse atmosphere and that's why they clearly are asking people to drop it.

The flip side of them not being organized is that it probably means that any harassment truly WILL be fringe cases without an organized effort. Maybe that makes them unpredictable, and that's scary, but it also means that if you scoop up the people doing it now and it gets out to others in the ether that this happened, and it will likely stop. Whereas I doubt the Scientologists would be that easily foiled if they truly wanted to destroy someone.

For that matter, it wouldn't surprise me if some of the people calling her are with the CoS themselves.
That occurred to me too. Its perfectly in line with their apparent philosophy to set someone up as a pawn and sacrifice that person. I have no reason to doubt MacQuarrie's statements that she's an innocent in this, but that doesn't mean that the CoS didn't have their eyes on her or that they wouldn't take advantage of a situation that could clearly be spun to help them. I can't say I know that's happening, but clearly with their history its at least POSSIBLE. Ruthie herself may know plenty of "Ethical" Scientologists (and isn't it tragic she used THAT particular phrase when apparently the rest of the world now realizes how loaded a Scientology term it is), but it isn't the rank and file of the CoS people are getting scared by. It's David Miscavige standing up on a stage making a speech that sound straight out of Triumph of the Will about destroying Psychiatry, or Tom Cruise babbling while being presented as a "hero" of their cause, or any reasonable accounting people try and make of Scientology's implicit aggressive techniques, history and agenda.

Aroihkin

02-10-2008, 02:04 AM

The "Meme speak" was part of their own little clubhouse atmosphere and that's why they clearly are asking people to drop it.

Except the little clubhouse has been around since usenet, and the meme speak would be more acceptable during protests if it wasn't for the fact that telling the average member of Joe Public that "the Co$ pool is closed due to over 9000 thetans and stingrays" will just get a blank stare and a headshake, and take away from the whole point of the protest.

Far better to just stick to "Anon is simply trying to spread information and gather media attention towards this cause, and here is why," and hand over a sheet of paper and answer questions if they stick around to ask them.

It's not necessarily that it's uber secret 'clubhouse speak lulz', it's that it would be counter productive to go there. Plus it's considered to be cancer when people explain these memes, which would end up happening with anyone who didn't just shake their head and walk away.

By the way, this:

http://www.arowrites.net/othercrap/doom/I'm%20the%20goddman%20BATMAN.jpg

is a meme.

Crowley

02-10-2008, 12:31 PM

so has anything happened today?

Jack Zodiac

02-10-2008, 12:35 PM

Sydney's protest had over a hundred and fifty people show up. Cincinnati's didn't. :p Ah, well. I wonder how the Columbus one went.

Ouch. Only thirty in Dublin, though. I bet LA had a nice turn out, at least.

Sarah Beach

02-10-2008, 03:18 PM

so has anything happened today?

Well, I went by the Celebrity Center after church (my church is on the other side of the freeway from the CC), and I didn't notice anything out of the usual. But as I was driving toward my apartment, I was debating whether to have a nice afternoon drive through the hills (it's a beautiful day today) or not. But I was hungry, so I headed toward Wendy's.

This particular Wendy's is near the big Scientology center on Sunset. As I drove along Sunset, there were quite a few picketters on the Sunset sidewalk - signs, masks (from V for Vendetta), and general clustering. I got my burger and returned homeward on Fountain (the other east/west street that parallels Sunset on the other side of the Scientology property), but there were no protesters on that side of the complex.

So.... they were on the main thoroughfare near their big blue public center, but very little around the "gem" property of the Celebrity Center.

Tobias March

02-10-2008, 03:26 PM

Ouch. Only thirty in Dublin, though.

I think a mate of mine was trying to get me to go to that this morning. He was ringing my phone.

I wasn't interested personally though.

Chiroptera

02-10-2008, 03:41 PM

I live right down the road from the Church of Scientology here in Dallas. There's about 60 people across the road from the church when last I drove by there (about an hour and a half ago) and there were ven more of them this morning.

I have to admit, I'm pleased with the Police Department's response to this. They had two squad cars at the church, two in the nearest driveway on the other side of the street and a couple of motorcycle cops in the center median around noon today. When I last drove by there the police presence had lessened but the patrol rate in the neighborhood is way higher today than usual, so they're clearly keeping an eye on the activity.

Both sides disturb me a fair deal. Anonymous wouldn't bother me as much if it weren't... Well.. Anonymous!

It's one thing to dispute something, to take a stand and fight aggresively for it, but it's a whole different scenario if you take that stand in a mask.
When you cover your face with a mask (Particularly something like Guy Fawkes/V for Vendetta, a mask attributed to a man who planned to blow up parliament, or in the fictional characters case, a man who -did- blow up parliament).

The whole thing today has been unnervingly similar to what you might expect to see from a band of KKK standing across the street for an all black church. Dozens of people in masks, waving signs that are not just in protest, but are out right threatening. One of the tallest people in the crowd had a huge two handled sign "Freedom of Choice! Burn in hell or burn on earth!"
That goes a large step beyond mere protesting.

Charles RB

02-10-2008, 03:51 PM

I can see the mask thing - Scientology has a history of aggressive legal action and campaigns of intimidation against people it considers an enemy. I'd wear a mask.

Chiroptera

02-10-2008, 04:04 PM

Oh don't get me wrong, I understand why they're doing it. Heck, I'd even advocate it.
But not a mask like the Guy Fawkes one. I get the symbolism, but again, this is a mask that is meant to be a MOCKERY of a terrorist who plotted to attack the government of Great Britain!

It's like standing outside a Mosque wearing an Osama mask. It's just not a wise choice. Wear something that isn't a representation of a specific individual.

Jack Zodiac

02-10-2008, 04:07 PM

It's their shtick. That and the skin-tight green mask with no facial expression. It isn't meant to symbolize anything but anonymity. It's a "meme."

Chiroptera

02-10-2008, 04:09 PM

Again, I get it, I just really dislike it.
Even to the point that it makes me more unnerved by them than by the scientologists.

Jack Zodiac

02-10-2008, 04:51 PM

I don't see why. Most don't even know the meaning behind it. Most of 'em probably never even saw the half-assed movie that destroyed the comic that played off the history it was mimicking brilliantly. I'm more unnerved by the crazy assholes who know they're insane and evil and don't give a shit than the buncha sad sacks who don't know why they're wearing the masks they're wearing.

Tobias March

02-10-2008, 05:23 PM

It's their shtick. That and the skin-tight green mask with no facial expression. It isn't meant to symbolize anything but anonymity. It's a "meme."

They shouldn't be referring to memes so much in their newspeak. You don't want the Scientologists AND Richard Dawkins pissed at you...

DaeJi

02-10-2008, 06:14 PM

I find the whole "Scientologist vs. Anonymous" kind of funny myself. But then again, Irony appeals to me.

The Xenos

02-11-2008, 01:49 AM

Again, I get it, I just really dislike it.
Even to the point that it makes me more unnerved by them than by the scientologists.

Eh. They're a bunch of Johnny come lately super libertarians wanna be mild anarchists. A bunch of them are immature morons, but I think some of them know the real score. I knew some people who went. They run the gamut.

I was amazed at one online interview where they had an older gentleman who came down from NH. So it's not just all a buncha kids on the internet. He knew the current head, Miscavige. Sadly the interview was cut short by equipment error. (third video)
http://offonatangent.blogspot.com/2008/02/anonymous-scientology-boston-protest.html

And I like some of the posters here.
'Honk if you oppose Scientology'
http://www.flickr.com/photos/stevegarfield/2254896677/

I can see the mask thing - Scientology has a history of aggressive legal action and campaigns of intimidation against people it considers an enemy. I'd wear a mask.

Yeah, I can't blame them for the masks. Sure, they likely don't get the Alan Moore intentions or orignal story. Yet, damn, I think they still somehow keep i the book V's anarchist tendencies for freedom.

the4thpip

02-11-2008, 03:20 AM

http://dailycontempt.com/wp-content/uploads/bart-simpson-scientology.jpg

Spiffy

02-11-2008, 03:58 AM

http://dailycontempt.com/wp-content/uploads/bart-simpson-scientology.jpg

In the words of Nelson:

http://www.seomoz.org/images/upload/simpsons_nelson_haha2.jpg

The Xenos

02-11-2008, 04:00 PM

Front page of today's freebie paper Boston Now

http://www.flickr.com/photos/anon617/2257709565/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/anon617/2258506702/sizes/l/

kingdom2000

02-11-2008, 05:40 PM

Dang, now I wish I knew about this for the Atlanta protest especially since Scientology apparently called out the Riot/SWAT to protect them from the "terrorists"

video part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YK559vcQQoE)
video part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQ9OiSCuKPc&feature=related)

Here is a video (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=2SraUpcJfqw) from the London protest with a few words from Scientology rep. It appears the organization has taken the typical corporate approach - when in doubt go with silence.

And here (http://partyvan.info/index.php/Project_Chanology/February_10%2C_2008) is the Wiki for the 2/10 protests. Interesting how xenu.net has become the website that the Anonymous group is ralling around. Its been around for a while, I remembering reading it years and years ago when first go on the web (via WebTV) and hearing about the actions of the cult. Hasn't changed much from then either.

Jack Zodiac

02-11-2008, 05:54 PM

Holy shit, apparently I was wrong about Cincinnati. There wasn't anyone when I drove by, but they eventually had a hundred-plus turn out. :eek: For fuckin' Cincinnati! My girlfriend's coworker videotaped a lot of it and when he puts it on YouTube I'll link you guys up.

Charles RB

02-11-2008, 05:59 PM

Dang, now I wish I knew about this for the Atlanta protest especially since Scientology apparently called out the Riot/SWAT to protect them from the "terrorists"

God, that must've pissed Riot & SWAT off. Regular police get visibly miffed at having to be near protests, I can't imagine how annoying it must be for the tacticals.

Jack Zodiac

02-11-2008, 06:04 PM

I'm surprised there weren't wild "terrorist threats" bandied about. Maybe they realize that doesn't look good for them anymore, like crying wolf too much.

Matt Doc Martin

02-11-2008, 06:07 PM

I am so bummed I missed this. I would have gone to clearwater again.

Jack Zodiac

02-11-2008, 06:10 PM

Yeah, the Clearwater protest looked fun! Lots of people marching right down Dr. Doom's driveway with signs calling him an asshole? Ballsy. :p

The Xenos

02-11-2008, 09:52 PM

A friend of mine went and wasn't too sure about the need of wearing a mask. I told him to be careful.

Just look at what happened to Paulette Cooper here.
http://www.agoravox.com/article.php3?id_article=7675

ChthonicSpirit

02-12-2008, 11:32 AM

Just ran across a funny demotivator:

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j83/ChthonicSpirit/Image%20Manips/bewaretheinternet.jpg

Jack Zodiac

02-12-2008, 11:47 AM

Goddamnit, why bring Longcat? :mad:

Although, a little Internet nerdery is funny. Apparently at the Cincinnati protest the other day, the first five cars that drove by honked at everybody, but the sixth didn't, and one guy in the back yelled "C-c-c-c-combo breaker!" :D

the4thpip

02-12-2008, 12:15 PM

My favorite internet nerdery involved was when they brought the rickrolling (http://www.rickrolling.com/rickrolling.php)! (edit: don't click this link at work. Causes Rick Astley to take over your browser for the duration of a song)

Rickrolling the Church of Scientology! (http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZBDzzL3Kzpk)
(just a youtube link)

Jack Zodiac

02-12-2008, 12:27 PM

Yes, Jill said somebody brought that with 'em to our local protest, too. :p Also, you're a dick, Pip. ;)

GCom

02-12-2008, 12:30 PM

[URL=~No. Not spreading this crap~[/URL]! (warning: link may annoy those with evil hearts)

Don't click this. You will regret it.

Pip, take that the hells down. Please.

With Tolerance For Having Been Rick Rolled At Work...

GCom

Charles RB

02-12-2008, 12:32 PM

I'm not clicking until someone tells me what it IS.

Jack Zodiac

02-12-2008, 12:37 PM

C'mon, Charles. Don't be a stranger to love. You know the rules, and so do I. ;)

the4thpip

02-12-2008, 12:42 PM

Hey, I posted a warning!! And it's fighting Scientology, so it has to be good, right??

GCom

02-12-2008, 12:45 PM

Hey, I posted a warning!! And it's fighting Scientology, so it has to be good, right??

No such things as a good viral application Pip. The warning just homogenizes it. Imagine someone at their job opening that, and what could happen. There's a reason that is a prank.

I'm not evil, but I didn't need that popping up on my comp in front of customers.

With Tolerance For My Last Plea...

GCom

Jack Zodiac

02-12-2008, 12:47 PM

Well, you already clicked it; now everyone knows, if you have an evil heart or are at work, don't click that link.

the4thpip

02-12-2008, 12:48 PM

I changed the warning...

Hybrid2

02-12-2008, 12:48 PM

That was not funny at all.

GCom

02-12-2008, 12:53 PM

I changed the warning...

Pip, sometimes you've something to say. I'd hate to miss it by having to place you on ignore so that my comp is protected in the future.

By posting the link, you want people to click it. The warning is just there to make you feel better. That application is annoying at best, disruptive at worst. It's a deliberately designed prank. You are putting it here among friends.

I'm done.

With Tolerance For Walking Away Now...

GCom

the4thpip

02-12-2008, 12:55 PM

Pip, sometimes you've something to say. I'd hate to miss it by having to place you on ignore so that my comp is protected in the future.

By posting the link, you want people to click it. The warning is just there to make you feel better. That application is annoying at best, disruptive at worst. It's a deliberately designed prank. You are putting it here among friends.

I'm done.

With Tolerance For Walking Away Now...

GCom

It's the inspiration for a protest against Scientology. I am not gonna post the wikipedia link to what it so people can find the link there. This thing will not damage your computer. If task manager is not disabled on your computer, you can stop it at any time. It's an internet phenomenon like lolcats, just even more annoying.

Plus, you know you love the song.

Never gonna give, never gonna give...

Jack Zodiac

02-12-2008, 12:58 PM

Annoyed at worst, over reactive at best.

Never gonna give, never gonna give!

Jack Zodiac

02-12-2008, 01:09 PM

So...

Anyone goin' to the March 15th protests? :D Happy motherfuckin' Birthday, L. Ron!

Tobias March

02-12-2008, 02:09 PM

Pip....you're lucky I just walked away from the computer there earlier.

Curiousity not only killed this cat, it skinned it, gutted it and arrayed its innards in comical shapes on the elderly woman who owned it's front garden.

Matt Doc Martin

02-12-2008, 03:47 PM

So...

Anyone goin' to the March 15th protests? :D Happy motherfuckin' Birthday, L. Ron!

Hmmm...if they are in Clearwater, it will be time to create that sandwich board....

Teh m0nk3y

02-13-2008, 02:20 AM

Spotted at Warren Ellis Blog:
http://www.warrenellis.com/?p=5601

And there´s another 10th of February article over at:
http://www.dailytech.com/Anonymous+AntiScientology+Protests+Rock+Streets+Wo rldwide/article10646.htm

There´s also this informercial I posted at the other thread.
Created by the Something Awfull contigent of Anonymous. Decent and good info: http://www.dailymotion.com/SA-Anonymous/video/7313668

The Xenos

02-13-2008, 12:15 PM

There´s also this informercial I posted at the other thread.
Created by the Something Awfull contigent of Anonymous. Decent and good info: http://www.dailymotion.com/SA-Anonymous/video/7313668

F----in' brilliant.

Also R2-45? Wow. That's a new one. Holy sh--.

Hybrid2

02-13-2008, 01:05 PM

I did'nt watch or read the news a lot but did the media talk a lot about this?

Teh m0nk3y

02-13-2008, 01:10 PM

I did'nt watch or read the news a lot but did the media talk a lot about this?

London:
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article788487.ece

Norway:
http://www.nettavisen.no/innenriks/ioslo/article1595823.ece

Toronto:
http://torontoist.com/2008/02/scientology_pro.php

Portland:
http://www.kgw.com/news-local/stories/kgw_021008_news_scientology_protest.ad30b65b.html

Boston:
http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2008/02/11/dozens_of_masked_protesters_blast_scientology_chur ch/

From Australia:
http://www.news.com.au/technology/story/0,25642,23189971-5014108,00.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z797cVxetIg

Teh m0nk3y

02-13-2008, 01:44 PM

F----in' brilliant.

Also R2-45? Wow. That's a new one. Holy sh--.

My thoughts exactly.

The Xenos

02-13-2008, 02:34 PM

Here's awesome Candian coverage from the CBC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxMO335rK1w

Tobias March

02-13-2008, 03:05 PM

Question - seeing as this thread and indeed the whole Anonymous thing started with Tom Cruise - do people reckon it was a mistake on the 'Church's' part to recruit him into the fold? In that it will ultimately be more detrimental to them by drawing attention to their activities, than whatever gains having him won them.

Jack Zodiac

02-13-2008, 03:11 PM

I think twenty years ago or whenever he was recruited it was a good idea, but over the past five years or so, he's gone totally goddamn mental on 'em, and now he's a negative influence for the church. They had to keep up that celebrity face to distract people from looking at the religion itself, now that face is insane, and people recognize that the church itself is fucking crazy. Shot 'emselves in the foot, surely.

Hybrid2

02-13-2008, 05:25 PM

Here's awesome Candian coverage from the CBC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxMO335rK1w

She say they just want to make a name for themself?

LOL there is no name!:rolleyes:

Teh m0nk3y

02-14-2008, 07:37 AM

There´s also this informercial I posted at the other thread.
Created by the Something Awfull contigent of Anonymous. Decent and good info: http://www.dailymotion.com/SA-Anonymous/video/7313668

The final version of the Road to February 10th has been uploaded.
http://www.dailymotion.com/SA-Anonymous/video/7341208

Sharkerbob

02-14-2008, 03:39 PM

OKay, jusy saw the link from the opening post...

What the fuck is he trying to say? This guy's more indirect than a politician.

It's just ten minutes of him saying the same damn thing over and over again:

"This is the time!"

"We're here to help!"

"You know what it is becuase you just know it!"

Aye ca-fuckin'-rumba...

The Xenos

02-15-2008, 03:21 AM

the4thpip

02-15-2008, 03:56 AM

I'm totally down with OPP.

Spiffy

02-15-2008, 08:08 AM

The thing is he's talking using speech invented by LRH tech. Even someone at a basic OT level should understand it. If you're not down with LRH and his contributions to the world, then you're just an SP who needs to be audited and brought itno the COS.

Really. It's plain English.
Yes, and if we aren't careful with our third dynamic, the combination of comm lags and a lack of care in our anchor points will lead to faulted comm lines which will enturbulate and allow VBIs and a bypassed charge!

If you ever want to attain cause over MEST, you'd better make a postulate to amp up your case gain! The obnosis is that we've got to get your ethics in, and solve your PTP, or some SP will use covert hostility to enmest you and make you an aberee who can't clear!

Whew.

Charles RB

02-15-2008, 11:24 AM

Flubbity-wubbity wub wub wub.

Sarah Beach

02-15-2008, 12:02 PM

Flubbity-wubbity wub wub wub.

My feelings, EXACTLY!

:D

Spiffy

02-22-2008, 09:24 PM

Here's something interesting I found:

We all know now about the many many celebs who are dumb enough to fall for Scientology's crap. But what about those who AREN'T and who have actually been brave enough (or some might say "foolish enough") to actually say something?

http://www.factnet.org/Scientology/celebcrit.html

I have new respect for some of these people. I love the bit about how Mike Farrell was getting so many threatening calls he started to answer his phone with "Hubbard was crazy".

Most of these are older incidents though. This was obviously compiled some time ago.

The one about Elvis is interesting too, especially in light of how far Priscilla and Lisa Marie have gotten into it.

It's also interesting how they discuss a Simpsons episode ("The Joy of Sect") that hits on Scientology, given how big Nancy Cartwright has gotten into them.

DaeJi

02-22-2008, 11:09 PM

http://www.factnet.org/Scientology/celebcrit.html

Carrey, Jim (Actor)

After the heartbreaking news of people like Nancy Cartwright and Jason Lee being part of the Hollywood cult, this gives me hope and brightens my day.

Spiffy

02-23-2008, 04:58 AM

I love this one.

#

Butler, Brett (Stand-up comic and star of the sitcom "Grace Under Fire"):
"...has made references to $cientology in her stage routines. One fairly recent clip that I saw on Comedy Central included a joke about running into a heroin addict in Hollywood. The addict mentions that $cientology is helping him get off drugs, and Grace's comment is, 'God, I hope he sticks with the heroin.'" - Mark Dallara.

Although this was probably back in the days when she was actually a popular, working comedienne.

Teh m0nk3y

02-25-2008, 09:22 AM

Anonymous has began to do nursery rhymes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_78hgi3Hoo

Hybrid2

02-25-2008, 12:51 PM

I wich I could go.

Jack Zodiac

02-25-2008, 01:03 PM

Teh m0nk3y

02-25-2008, 01:09 PM

I'm sure there's a center in Quebec. No reason ya' can't go.

I'm just waiting for there to be an "anonymous terrorist threat" this next protest. I'm surprised they didn't do it last time since they're more than willing to make themselves looked victimized whenever anybody else protests them.

The Scilons did post a fake threat on youtube. People flagged it down and notified youtube. from what I gathered, Anonymous doesn't want to give said fake "Threat" attention.

MacQuarrie

02-25-2008, 01:50 PM

The Scilons did post a fake threat on youtube. People flagged it down and notified youtube. from what I gathered, Anonymous doesn't want to give said fake "Threat" attention.

It was really clumsy. They lifted footage from some other protest that turned violent (maybe the WTO in Seattle?) and added graphics and voiceover to make it look like Anonymous got unruly. Didn't fool anyone.

Hybrid2

02-25-2008, 03:44 PM

I'm sure there's a center in Quebec. No reason ya' can't go.

I'm just waiting for there to be an "anonymous terrorist threat" this next protest. I'm surprised they didn't do it last time since they're more than willing to make themselves looked victimized whenever anybody else protests them.

I've seen a video of the manif at Montreal.
I still cant go.

Matt Doc Martin

02-25-2008, 05:50 PM

when is the next protest day?

Jack Zodiac

02-25-2008, 05:52 PM

March 13th! L. Ron's birthday. Happy Birthday, Motherfuckerface!

MacQuarrie

02-26-2008, 08:06 AM

March 13th! L. Ron's birthday. Happy Birthday, Motherfuckerface!

March 15, not 13.

The Xenos

02-26-2008, 04:17 PM

March 13th is his actual birthday, check Wiki. March 15 is the date anon there is protesting it as the 15th is on teh weekend when more people are availible. Some friends on my college campus said someone plastered it with posters for the MArch 15th protest.

Jack Zodiac

02-26-2008, 04:46 PM

Does Scientology have his birthday party on his actual birthday, because that's the time to protest, when you can catch 'em all piling out of their weird cult leader lovefest.

the4thpip

03-05-2008, 03:45 AM

No clear yet:

http://artfiles.art.com/images/-/Lisa-Marie-Presley-Photograph-C12146772.jpeg

Clear!

http://kuvat2.iltasanomat.fi/iltasanomat/iDoc/1496314-400_lisamarie1.jpg

The Xenos

03-05-2008, 01:24 PM

the4thpip

03-05-2008, 01:30 PM

Wow. Just.. wow. Is that really her? Just.. damn.

I guess she's following in her dad's footsteps. Well, save for the pills thanks to Scientology. Still, I guess this is proof that prescription drugs aren't the only way to f--- up your life.

You have to realize that she has been cleared of all her Thetans and is in absolute control of the physical world now. Which means she WANTS to look like that.

the4thpip

03-05-2008, 01:36 PM

she has absolute control over the physical world! Like that piece of cake... she is MAKING IT DISAPPEAR!

OMG!! ZOMG!!!

Hybrid2

03-05-2008, 01:53 PM

she has absolute control over the physical world! Like that piece of cake... she is MAKING IT DISAPPEAR!

OMG!! ZOMG!!!

Who is this?

Jack Zodiac

03-05-2008, 02:00 PM

Lisa Marie Presley, rockin' her ug-thetan.

Lester C.

03-05-2008, 02:02 PM

I wanted to watch Last Samurai last night and just couldn't do it. I think Tom's antics may have turned me off as a fan.

Jack Zodiac

03-05-2008, 02:03 PM

Yep. I can only watch "Top Gun" for Val Kilmer, now...

Lester C.

03-05-2008, 02:08 PM

Yep. I can only watch "Top Gun" for Val Kilmer, now...

Poor Val Kilmer. He went from the most bankable young actor in Hollywood to the voice of Kitt in Night Rider. And unlike other stars his precipitous was not a result of self-destruction.

Carlton Donaghe

03-05-2008, 02:08 PM

Fuck Scientology, fuck Tom Cruise, and fuck anyone who's stupid enough to fall for that psychotic bullshit. I don't like most religions, but I fucking hate Scientology.

Dude, that's fucking awesome!

Hybrid2

03-05-2008, 02:23 PM

Lisa Marie Presley, rockin' her ug-thetan.

Elvis most be spining in his grave.

Jack Zodiac

03-05-2008, 02:26 PM

Elvis most be spining in his grave.

Or spinnin' around in France or whatever retirement home he was in in "Bubba Ho-Tep."

Tobias March

03-05-2008, 02:56 PM

I was talking to someone tonight who was at the Dublin protest in January - he said it was the nerdiest protest he's ever been to. Apparently they used phrases like 'epic fail' in their chants :)

Carlton Donaghe

03-05-2008, 03:04 PM

It was already gunna be difficult to rehabilitate Tom after he married his daughter. It's beyond hope now.

To LRH! *salutes*

I don't understand what you mean about Tom Cruise marrying his daughter. Suri?

Please explain, I must humbly request.

sk716

03-05-2008, 03:33 PM

Or spinnin' around in France or whatever retirement home he was in in "Bubba Ho-Tep."

If anything proves Elvis is dead, this is it. If he was alive he'd have already whooped Lisa Marie's ass for squandering his fortune on thetan control, or whatever.

Jack Zodiac

03-05-2008, 03:35 PM

I was talking to someone tonight who was at the Dublin protest in January - he said it was the nerdiest protest he's ever been to. Apparently they used phrases like 'epic fail' in their chants :)

Yeah, that's 4channers for ya'. Apparently the nerdiest thing that went down at the Cincy protest was someone yelling "c-c-c-combo breaker!" when one of the cars didn't honk.

I don't understand what you mean about Tom Cruise marrying his daughter. Suri?

Please explain, I must humbly request.

I think Bree was making a joke about the guy who starred in "Risky Business" in 1983 marrying the girl who only played teenagers up until five years ago.

If anything proves Elvis is dead, this is it. If he was alive he'd have already whooped Lisa Marie's ass for squandering his fortune on thetan control, or whatever.

No! It can't be true! La la la la la, I-am-not-listening, la la la la!

Spiffy

03-05-2008, 05:51 PM

You have to realize that she has been cleared of all her Thetans and is in absolute control of the physical world now. Which means she WANTS to look like that.

Ah. Its not that she has control of them. She's shed them off. Like extra layers of skin. To reveal the ugly underneath, apparently.

Of course, in that cleared state she can fly, teleport, time travel, astral project, benchpress 1 million tons, eat unlimited burgers, visit the spirit of her Dad, and predict the next winner of American Idol!

The Xenos

03-05-2008, 09:18 PM

I was talking to someone tonight who was at the Dublin protest in January - he said it was the nerdiest protest he's ever been to. Apparently they used phrases like 'epic fail' in their chants :)

That makes Scientology's statement that these people are cyber-terrorists perpetrating hate crimes even more ludicrous.

Yep. I can only watch "Top Gun" for Val Kilmer, now...

Or you can watch it for the oddly gay subtext between him and Tom.

Yeah, that's 4channers for ya'. Apparently the nerdiest thing that went down at the Cincy protest was someone yelling "c-c-c-combo breaker!" when one of the cars didn't honk.
I think a friend said that happened at one around here. HE said someone had a car playing Rick Rolls and Fresh Prince and such. From the photos online they had the Pool's Closed guy mixed with Xenu. While they should stay on subject, some jokes like that to lighten up the mood might be good. As serious as the cause is, it helps show that they're not a danger.

I think Bree was making a joke about the guy who starred in "Risky Business" in 1983 marrying the girl who only played teenagers up until five years ago.

He is rather robbing the cradle. Not that there's anything wrong with that. Seducing her and putting her through psychologically questionable 'auditing', now that's wrong.

ChthonicSpirit

03-13-2008, 10:01 AM

Scientology seeks a restraining order to prevent the next set of protests:

http://www.sptimes.com/2008/03/12/Northpinellas/Scientology_fights_ba.shtml

Jack Zodiac

03-13-2008, 11:13 AM

"Representatives of Anonymous could not be reached for comment."

BWA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Also, as I predicted, they're already wheeling out the "we feel threatened" bullshit, so expect many fake bomb threats at many of these protests this weekend.

Charles RB

03-13-2008, 01:00 PM

With the Internet activist group Anonymous threatening a second round of protests against Scientology this weekend, the Clearwater-based church went to court late Tuesday, filing a petition for a temporary restraining order.

How exactly do you get a restraining order against an organisation that doesn't exist in a physical sense?

Sarah Beach

03-13-2008, 01:18 PM

How exactly do you get a restraining order against an organisation that doesn't exist in a physical sense?

It probably seeks an area of protection around the Scientology sites, prohibiting outsiders from being nearer than X number of feet. If they have their way, I'd guess they'd specify 300 feet (ie, a football field length). Not likely to get that.

Oh, boo hoo. People want to walk around outside your place and call you names. Poooooooooooor little Scientologists.

kingdom2000

03-13-2008, 02:07 PM

For what is being requested, that would have to be done in every state, county and country. There isn't a federal way to mandate a certain X foot distance during a protest. Idiotic approach on their part. Course once again hitting up the lawyers just fuels everything and continues to prove the cause correct about Scientology.

Matt Doc Martin

03-13-2008, 04:15 PM

It probably seeks an area of protection around the Scientology sites, prohibiting outsiders from being nearer than X number of feet. If they have their way, I'd guess they'd specify 300 feet (ie, a football field length). Not likely to get that.

Oh, boo hoo. People want to walk around outside your place and call you names. Poooooooooooor little Scientologists.

I will be in Clearwater Saturday....minding my own business, I'm sure.

ChthonicSpirit

03-13-2008, 04:17 PM

And it appears to have been rapidly rejected.

http://blogs.tampabay.com/breakingnews/2008/03/second-scientol.html

Monty_Cristo

03-13-2008, 04:55 PM

Poor Val Kilmer. He went from the most bankable young actor in Hollywood to the voice of Kitt in Night Rider. And unlike other stars his precipitous was not a result of self-destruction.

wasn't he just labeled 'difficult to work with?'

Teh m0nk3y

03-13-2008, 06:09 PM

And the escalation of fake threats have begun.

http://suncoastpinellas.tbo.com/content/2008/mar/13/tampa-helps-st-pete-scientology-site-bomb-scare/

Jack Zodiac

03-13-2008, 06:35 PM

"Here, as alleged in the petition, there appears to be a number of individuals who more or less refer to their cause as "Anonymous,'' but there is no allegation of the existence of any organization or hierarchy of command that exercises any form of collective or coordinated action that results in the systematic deprivation of the petitioner’s rights."

No shit? :p

And really, a bomb threat already? Jesus, Scientology. You could've waited until the weekend. No nobody's gonna take your silly bullshit seriously. But by all means, continue dancing around the Constitution to protect your crazy church service/birthday party, and then wiping your ass with it when you feel "threatened" by the scary Internet people.

SMDFF!