Mutant League 01/14/2008 AM Game 1: Nyssane vs. The Fury

[mattbib]

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And now on to our fight...

In the first corner we have Nyssane's Flatman & The Nasty Girls:
Anaconda, Phantazia, Tempo, Arclight, Lorelei I, Mindblast, Flatman

vs

In the other corner is The Fury's Five Methods To Hug a Monkey Part 1 Dot Com:
Storm, Avalanche, Mentallo, Cloak, Thunderbird III, Rockslide, Captain Britain

Both participants have submitted strategies:

Please do not post or vote until both strategies have been posted and read.

[mattbib]

PROLOGUE:
As the battle begins, Tempo immediately accelerates the time around her teammates, increasing their speed greatly (New Mutants #87) and giving them the ability to strike more quickly. Before the opposing team has time to blink, Arclight smashes her fist into the ground and creates a massive tremor. All non-airborne enemies are disoriented from the quake, presumably leaving only Storm, Captain Britain, Cloak, and Thunderbird in the air (assuming they were in the air to begin with). Rockslide, Mentallo, and Avalanche all fall to the ground slowly.

CHAPTER 1:
Note: Everything during Chapter 1 occurs simultaneously. Same with Chapter 2 and Chapter 3 (sorta).

TEMPO --
Tempo spends the majority of the first half concentrating on keeping the speed of her allies at a superhuman pace, and uses what little power she has left to slow Cloak down to a halt, leaving him unable to attack for the time being. She has been shown to stop time completely around the entire X-Mansion, she should be able to hold Cloak and boost her teammates.

PHANTAZIA --
Phantazia immediately blasts Storm with a disruptive beam (Sleepwalker #17), shorting out her flight and sending her crashing to the ground below. This might be able to knock the weather witch unconscious, but for all purposes of not underestimating the enemy, we'll say she's merely stunned for the rest of the chapter. Phantazia then cloaks herself and Tempo from visual detection (X-Force #7).

MINDBLAST --
While disoriented from Arclight's previous attack as he was on the ground, Mentallo is easily susceptible to attack. Mindblast hovers in the air and grabs him with a tractor beam, raising him quickly into the sky, smashing him into any abandoned buildings around the area, and finally slamming him into the dusty Outback field before he even has a chance to use his telepathic abilities.

ANACONDA --
Boosted by Tempo, Anaconda elongates her arm and quickly grabs Captain Britain from the sky. She would obviously be unable to hold him as he is too physically powerful to be constricted, so she merely pummels him in the face with her right fist while wrapping her legs around his and her left arm around both of his arms. With Tempo's speed increase, Anaconda is able to punch several times per second, and although many characters would tire easily from Tempo's powers (such as Thumbelina in New Mutants #87), Anaconda has proven to have far more endurance and stamina than an average woman. Her attacks would keep Captain Britain busy for the first chapter.

FLATMAN --
Flatman immediately goes for Thunderbird. He positions himself at a stance which is unnoticable to Thunderbird and grabs him from the sky. If Thunderbird attempts to use his plasma fire on him, Flatman can easily maneuver himself to dodge the attacks (such as when he dodged Deadpool's onslaught of ninja stars in the GLI Summer Spectacular). Flatman then grabs onto Thunderbird's back quickly and turns into Origami-Fu Monkey Style, continuously pounding on his back and sending Thunderbird down to the ground.

LORELEI & ARCLIGHT --
Lorelei and Arclight quickly rush over to the fallen enemies Rockslide and Avalanche (while Mindblast has already taken care of Mentallo). Lorelei gets as close as she can to Avalanche and begins vocalizing a lulling tune, immobilizing Avalanche with lust (X-Men #63). Arclight is with Lorelei as protection, but also strikes Rockslide, who has taken longer to recover from her prologue attack due to his inexperience. Sending vibrations through his young body with each strike, Arclight is easily able to finish him off with a B-52 punch (which obliterates Rockslide's granite body) while watching Lorelei and making sure none of the heroes are able to attack her.

CHAPTER 2
Note: Mentallo and Rockslide (for now) have been defeated.

TEMPO --
Tempo spends the entire second chapter continually boosting her teammates, and still has Cloak in a time bubble for the first portion.

PHANTAZIA --
Phantazia turns her attention from Storm to Captain Britain, who is being bombarded by Anaconda. She quickly hovers over Captain Britain and disrupts his immune system, halting his mobility (X-Factor #82). He spends the rest of the chapter curled over in agony.

MINDBLAST & ARCLIGHT --
After Phantazia attacks Captain Britain, Mindblast grabs Arclight in a tractor beam and flings her at Cloak. Arclight immediately begins striking at Cloak, creating a blinding light with each punch (Captain America #392). The light diminishes the darkforce from Cloak, leaving him completely vulnerable (such as when Ecstasy stole Cloak's powers and Union Jack was able to defeat her with light in Union Jack #3), and Tempo releases him from her time halt, allowing Arclight the finishing blow.

ANACONDA & FLATMAN --
Anaconda leaves Captain Britain to be attacked by Phantazia and goes to aid Flatman, who was able to bring Thunderbird to the ground but not defeat him. Flatman is exhausted from the time acceleration and dodging Thunderbird's attacks, so he backs off and lets Anaconda handle the situation. Anaconda elongates her arms and slams her fists into Thunderbird (her elongated punch is enough to crack stone walls - Captain America #310), knocking him out indefinitely, if not shattering his skull.

LORELEI --
Lorelei alters her song on Avalanche to put him under her control (Captain America #416). She forces him to use his powers, creating an Earth split in Storm's direction. Without her powers, Storm falls into the split and is out of the battle.

CHAPTER 3
Note: Cloak, Thunderbird, and Storm have been defeated.

MINDBLAST --
Mindblast grabs Captain Britain's writhing body with her beams and continually lifts him and slams him into the ground until he is knocked unconscious for the battle.

LORELEI --
Lorelei ends her song on Avalanche, snapping him out of his trance. If Rockslide is able to re-form with the rocks around the Australian Outback, Lorelei strolls over to him and lulls him to sleep with her melodies. Rockslide in his horny teenage self should easily be manipulated by Lorelei into paralysis and he'd be out for the rest of the battle.

TEMPO --
Tempo stops boosting her teammates speed and instead powers herself up to gain super speed (X-Men #202), flying at Avalanche and punching him dozens of times per second.

ARCLIGHT --
While Avalanche is dazed from Tempo's assault, Arclight sneaks behind him and slams her fist into his back, sending a vibration through his spine. She finishes the battle by with a quick punch to the back of the head, rattling Avalanche's brain.

FLATMAN --
Flatman turns into Origami-Fu Balloon Style for Celebration!

[mattbib]

Initial Actions (all as start):
- Mentallo, while taking flight, locks onto Lorelei and mind bolts her, she has no defense so is an easy target.
- Storm fires a large lightning bolt at the other team, mainly aiming for Tempo as her ability to speed up her team gives them a first attack edge but her speed is only subsonic, lightning is speed of light so will not be easy to dodge.
- Thunderbird, while taking flight, fires a large concussive beam at Acrlight but makes it a constant flow of energy afterwards firing at the entire other team.
- Avalanche creates a large 50 foot wave in front of him that rushes to the other team, he intends to crash this on them. Captain Britain flies behind this wave at this stage, keeping up with it.
- Cloak take Rockslide into his cloak and teleports to the other team right next to Mindblast, he drops off Rockslide and takes Mindblast and teleports another 400 yard behind the team, here he drops off Mindblast and battles her here.

Mindblast's power cannot produce shields but can lift alot of mass, so she would be able to block the coming wall of rock, away from the battle she cannot do this.

Primary Actions:
- Captain Britain, from behind the wave of rock in a kind of surprise type move, speeds up to his near max (speed of sound) and flies over the wave and heads for Tempo, due to ehr speed only being subsonic, Captain Britain has speed and reactions enough to find and take her out, once he locates her he rams into her and uses his strength to knock her out. There is a chance she will use her powers on him, but he is protected by his shield from any physical harm so will continue until he takes her out.
- Rockslide will attack Lorelei. He wil try to knock her out as Mentallo is attacking her psychically. Once he does Mentallo is freed up again.
- Thunderbird moves in on the other team, chaning to plasma form, he stays flying high above the team and fires beams of heat at them, to scortch and burn them. He also fire s in such a pattern that keeps them in a tight group. any that stray he fires at to keep in the group.
- Storm uses her wind to also keep their team in a tight group, she can create gale force winds which can blow someone over so shouldn't be too hard.
- The wave only takes a short time to reach the other side, Avalanche crashes it onto the other team. It is probably several hundred tonnes of rock and Mindblast is not near the main battle to stop it. Arclight's shockwave might produce some resistance but Avalanche has near control over the rock itself.
- Cloak will fight Mindblast, his intangible body protects him as her powers will not work on him, but he can force his body to harden through will, so he will use what fighting skills he has (not many I think) to just punch her. Then remain intangible so she cannot retaliate.

Main Actions:
- Hopefully the other team were buried in rock. Mentallo uses his powers to find the survivors and helps the rest of his team track them down and take them out.

First target is Phantazia, my main worry here is that her powers can be used to depower anyone in the close proximity but this has only been used on mutants and has never shown to affect mysticaly powered beings, ala Captain Britain.

Mentallo will find her and start mind bolting her, this will hopefully disrupt her enough to stop her using her power, if they remain, she might be invisible. Captain Britain has an extra power that allows him to sense when things are not as they seem, so he can sense through holograms or illusions, this includes Phantazia's invisibility. He will find her and knock her out using his strength wile she is being attacked by Mentallo.
- Storm and Thunderbird swoop closer and attack those who they can find. Thunderbird with concussive beams, Storm with lightning based electricity. Thunderbird will find Anaconda and shoot her fro m a range, Storm will do the same for Arclight, neither land on the ground.They continue until both Anaconda and Arclight are down.
- Rockslide was no doubt caught also by the rock wave but as his body is basically rock, he can just reform himself again. once he does, he'll find Flatman and attack him.
- Cloak is still fighting Mindblast.

Final Actions:
- Time to finish people off, Mentallo finds random enemies and mind bolts them putting them off until they are taken out by their attackers.
- Captain Britain, after he finishes with Phantazia will find Mindblast and Cloak and attack Mindblast and knock her out. He could be stopped by her but with Cloak attacking her as well, hopefully that is enough distraction.
- Once Storm has shocked Arclight unconsious and Thunderbird taken out Anaconda, they seek out anyone who is left to take them out. This might just be Flatman, with Storm, Thunderbird and Rockslide attacking he should go down quickly. Storm uses her lightning to electocute him.

[mattbib]

jarrod, your vote will not count since you voted prior to both strategies being posted.

[Lex]

Wow. I'm impressed that Nyssane references all of her team's actions.

[Brian M.]

I would if Arclight and Avalanche would cancel each other out?

[jarrod]

jarrod, your vote will not count since you voted prior to both strategies being posted.
Ack, I didn't read carefully and went off lineups alone. :/

Can I revote... uh somehow? :/

[The Fury]

jarrod, your vote will not count since you voted prior to both strategies being posted.
:( What's the time on it? If you don't mind me asking.


abandoned buildings around the area
You'd be surpised how many abandoned buildings there are in the australian outback, huh?

[Dagger]

Good strategies both of you, but Nyssane had his team going in super-speed at first, and knocked out some of The Fury's main components before they could act is what swayed my decision in his favor.

[frog]

Good strategies both of you, but Nyssane had his team going in super-speed at first, and knocked out some of The Fury's main components before they could act is what swayed my decision in his favor.

That's what is confusing me. Would Tempo have affected Storm before Storm's bolt could hit Tempo? To me that decides which way the battle goes.

[Brian M.]

That's what is confusing me. Would Tempo have affected Storm before Storm's bolt could hit Tempo? To me that decides which way the battle goes.

Yea I'm wondering bout that too. It doesn't seem like Tempo moves, instead she stands still and focuses on speeding up her team and slowing down Cloak.

[Hi-Fi]

Right now, I prefer Nyssane's strategy. But Storm would NOT be defeated that easily. So I'm holding my vote for now.

[The Fury]

I would if Arclight and Avalanche would cancel each other out?
Arclight is shockwaves, Avalanche controls the ground via vibrations.

I've never seen Arclight open a chasm, create a wave of rock that she rides on, it's just shockwaves and has no control on any scale near that of Avalanche over the ground.

[Dagger]

Yea I'm wondering bout that too. It doesn't seem like Tempo moves, instead she stands still and focuses on speeding up her team and slowing down Cloak.
I didn't think about that. I just assumed Tempo would take to the air. Hmmm.

[Brian M.]

Arclight is shockwaves, Avalanche controls the ground via vibrations.

I've never seen Arclight open a chasm, create a wave of rock that she rides on, it's just shockwaves and has no control on any scale near that of Avalanche over the ground.


Yea but she's still sending a large vibration, energy, through the ground would that not affect the wave or rock Avalanche is sending?

[pryde15]

Good strategies both of you, but Nyssane had his team going in super-speed at first, and knocked out some of The Fury's main components before they could act is what swayed my decision in his favor.

That's what I'm waiting to figure out, before I vote.

[Christopher O]

That's what is confusing me. Would Tempo have affected Storm before Storm's bolt could hit Tempo? To me that decides which way the battle goes.
Right now, I prefer Nyssane's strategy. But Storm would NOT be defeated that easily. So I'm holding my vote for now.

Yeah, I have a hard time believing Tempo gets to work her mojo before Storm fries her with lightning. She certainly didn't do much against Storm in X-Men #205, but then nobody did.

All in all, I found good things and bad things about both strategies. I'm still undecided.

[The Fury]

Yea but she's still sending a large vibration, energy, through the ground would that not affect the wave or rock Avalanche is sending?

I've only ever seen her do things at a range of about 50 yards at best, not 100 yards. (unless comics aren't drawn to scale. :p) But also they are more shockwaves in a direction breaking ground. 50 feet high wave of rock would take alot of shockwave energy.

Keep in mind she is being attacked by Thunderbird also.



On other notes, Mentallo flies at the start.

[Brian M.]

Comic Book Psychics is always headache inducing.

[venuscameback]

Two good strategies, with nyssane's being quite inventive. I like the issue references, too.

My initial analysis?

My major concern is the over-use of Tempo - doesn't she have to be careful how much she uses her powers for fear of causing a heart attack? She's using them pretty much all the way through the fight and if i'm remembering correctly, that seems like a huge over-exertion, causing her to drop dead half-way through. Furious, on the other hand, has Cloak becoming tangible/intangible/tangible/intangible in quick succession in order to fight Mindblast. I've never seen him do that before.

Arclight's tremor disrupts Avalanche's approach at least a little, but only a little. He can probably ride it fairly easily, but it's going to slow him down a second or two. CB may run into the wall of rock when it jars on hitting the tremor, but it won't hurt him.

I'm not confident of Storm's ability to pick out a single target at such range with a solitary lightning bolt, but a near-miss would probably throw Tempo. Storm's then stunned by Phantazia.

As the rock wave approaches, CB leaps out - surprise! - and decks Tempo but is then grappled with by Anaconda.

With Mentallo taking flight he's unaffected by Arclight's tremor, and he's out of Lorelei's range before she can manipulate him. Cloak teleports Rockslide (I don't buy that Tempo can affect time elsewhere o the battlefield and trap Cloak in a time bubble, simultaneously), and Rockslide and Mentallo - from range - make easy work of Lorelei. Mindblast then TK grabs Mentallo and whams him unconscious. Cloak then teleports Mindblast 400 yards away from the fight and they engage.

Flatman attacks Thunderbird when he flies in and pummels him. I think that's enough to defeat Thunderbird - the power of Origami-Fu should not be under-estimated.

Arclight destroys Rockslide's body pretty easily, but with Lorelei down no-one's focused on Avalanche. Tempo's dead, of a heart attack, before she can go at him at super speed. Phantazia tries to disrupt CB's powers - I don't see any reason why this wouldn't work s IIRC she affects the nervous system, but I think CB makes reasonably light work of Anaconda and that she's defeated before Phantazia affects him.

Which leaves:

Phantazia, Arclight (wounded by Thunderbird), Mindblast and Flatman

vs.

Avalanche, Cloak and the stunned/immobolised Storm and Captain Britain

Arclight and Cloak engage as per nyssane's strategy, and without Lorelei there's no-one under her control to finish off Storm (who I wouldn't expect to see caught the same way twice by Phantazia). I think as soon as she recovers the battle turns Furious' way, but i'm going to pause before voting and allow see if either competitor has anything to say about this analysis that will indicate a different outcome. It's a tight finish to an excellent opening match.

[herrjonp]

Can Storm just sling lightning bolts like that? Doesn't she need to brew something up first? I mean, in the Outback, there's not a whole lot of clouds and such. I'm basing this off my knowledge of the animated series and movies as I just started reading comics with Messiah Complex.

From the posted strategies, I too think it comes down to whether Tempo affects Storm before she can get a lightning bolt off. If I could vote (damn post count) I'd probably vote for the team that has that question go their way.

I was also under the impression that Tempo had to exert herself to keep up a time differential, so I'd basically ignore everthing Tempo could do shortly after entering into the second stage, but if she could pull off her first stage moves, her team would have enough of a jump to emerge victorious.

[venuscameback]

Can Storm just sling lightning bolts like that? Doesn't she need to brew something up first? I mean, in the Outback, there's not a whole lot of clouds and such. I'm basing this off my knowledge of the animated series and movies as I just started reading comics with Messiah Complex.

From the posted strategies, I too think it comes down to whether Tempo affects Storm before she can get a lightning bolt off. If I could vote (damn post count) I'd probably vote for the team that has that question go their way.

I was also under the impression that Tempo had to exert herself to keep up a time differential, so I'd basically ignore everthing Tempo could do shortly after entering into the second stage, but if she could pull off her first stage moves, her team would have enough of a jump to emerge victorious.

Storm's regularly fired lightning bolts out of nowhere, she doesn't need to brew storm clouds first

[Christopher O]

Can Storm just sling lightning bolts like that? Doesn't she need to brew something up first? I mean, in the Outback, there's not a whole lot of clouds and such. I'm basing this off my knowledge of the animated series and movies as I just started reading comics with Messiah Complex.
No, Storm doesn't need to brew something. She summons lightning and wind instantaneously.

[The Lucky One]

It's a tight finish to an excellent opening match.

Agreed - given that The Fury's a veteran at this and a former champion, it'd be easy to get psyched out, but Nyssane put together an excellent strategy. I liked your analysis too, although I also want to see how the Fury and Nys respond before casting my vote.

-D

[Kalen O.]

You'd be surpised how many abandoned buildings there are in the australian outback, huh?

Don't be dickish, dude. The Outback is commonly used to refer to that era of the X-Men, and thus can be seen as applying to most of the places (in Australia, not counting issues in Genosha and the like, obviously), that those issues of Uncanny occurred in. While battling aliens, Reavers, and Nanny and the Orphan Maker, there were a great deal of buildings involved. Where was Jubilee hiding while Havok and Dazzler were battling Nanny and the Orphan Maker? That's right, an abandoned building. So unless I missed the memo where the Outback and Antarctica became synonymous, theorizing that there might be abandoned buildings around is a perfectly valid point, and you're only coming across as a poor competitor with your snark there, FYI.

(From what I recall, the Outback as seen in the X-Men comics contained a number of small towns, ranches, and the like.)

[The Fury]

Don't be dickish, dude. The Outback is commonly used to refer to that era of the X-Men, and thus can be seen as applying to most of the places (in Australia, not counting issues in Genosha and the like, obviously), that those issues of Uncanny occurred in. While battling aliens, Reavers, and Nanny and the Orphan Maker, there were a great deal of buildings involved. Where was Jubilee hiding while Havok and Dazzler were battling Nanny and the Orphan Maker? That's right, an abandoned building. So unless I missed the memo where the Outback and Antarctica became synonymous, theorizing that there might be abandoned buildings around is a perfectly valid point, and you're only coming across as a poor competitor with your snark there, FYI.
That 'remark' was not intended in that tone. Sorry if it came over that way. You'll fine those kinds of things common with me though in this.

[Swashbuckler]

Two good entries, but some things I had a problem with....

Thunderbird has a plasma form? and Captain Britain can move at the speed of sound?

I also didn't like the distinctions between sub-sonic and speed of light. I think Tempo would be able to get her move off before Storm could nail her. I also like how Nyssane didn't just analyze the powers of opponenets, but also their experience, such as with Rockslide.

[Nyssane]

Okay I only read like the first page so far, so here:

Yea I'm wondering bout that too. It doesn't seem like Tempo moves, instead she stands still and focuses on speeding up her team and slowing down Cloak.

Tempo is being cloaked by Phantazia immediately after I think the first chapter? It says on there somewhere I believe.

Right now, I prefer Nyssane's strategy. But Storm would NOT be defeated that easily. So I'm holding my vote for now.

Phantazia disrupts Storm's flight. She's disrupted Cannonball's blastfield, sending him to the ground before [X-Force #7]. Notice how I didn't have Storm defeated just from the collision on to the ground, she instead gets up again later but is defeated by Avalanche.


Arclight is shockwaves, Avalanche controls the ground via vibrations.

I've never seen Arclight open a chasm, create a wave of rock that she rides on, it's just shockwaves and has no control on any scale near that of Avalanche over the ground.


Arclight created an earthquake by pounding the ground several times. Look at the flashback in X-Men #202, she brings down an entire mansion by punching the ground. Not to mention X-Men #201, where she brings down Mystique's house. You're probably mistaking Arclight with the MOVIE version, who claps her hands together to create shockwaves.

[Kalen O.]

That 'remark' was not intended in that tone. Sorry if it came over that way. You'll fine those kinds of things common with me though in this.

LOL ahh, so a 'relax and enjoy the game' probably wouldn't do too much, huh?

[The Fury]

LOL ahh, so a 'relax and enjoy the game' probably wouldn't do too much, huh?
No kidding, but that's me...I get weird and stressed in some games, as my friends know, which can come off as bad sarcastic remarks.

[Nyssane]

Flatman attacks Thunderbird when he flies in and pummels him. I think that's enough to defeat Thunderbird - the power of Origami-Fu should not be under-estimated.

LAWL, loves it!

Arclight destroys Rockslide's body pretty easily, but with Lorelei down no-one's focused on Avalanche. Tempo's dead, of a heart attack, before she can go at him at super speed. Phantazia tries to disrupt CB's powers - I don't see any reason why this wouldn't work s IIRC she affects the nervous system, but I think CB makes reasonably light work of Anaconda and that she's defeated before Phantazia affects him.

Which leaves:

Phantazia, Arclight (wounded by Thunderbird), Mindblast and Flatman

vs.

Avalanche, Cloak and the stunned/immobolised Storm and Captain Britain

Arclight and Cloak engage as per nyssane's strategy, and without Lorelei there's no-one under her control to finish off Storm (who I wouldn't expect to see caught the same way twice by Phantazia). I think as soon as she recovers the battle turns Furious' way, but i'm going to pause before voting and allow see if either competitor has anything to say about this analysis that will indicate a different outcome. It's a tight finish to an excellent opening match.

That was a really good analysis... we sex now? ;)

Naw, I really appreciate the time you put into it. <3 I think my team would stand a chance in the final outcome, though the Fury's seems to have more pure power. If Flatman would be able to take out Avalanche (his paper-thin body might give him some advantage over Avalanche's powers), Mindblast vs. Captain Britain, Phantazia could easily render herself invisible to Storm and have the finishing blow a bio-blast.

Don't be dickish, dude. The Outback is commonly used to refer to that era of the X-Men, and thus can be seen as applying to most of the places (in Australia, not counting issues in Genosha and the like, obviously), that those issues of Uncanny occurred in. While battling aliens, Reavers, and Nanny and the Orphan Maker, there were a great deal of buildings involved. Where was Jubilee hiding while Havok and Dazzler were battling Nanny and the Orphan Maker? That's right, an abandoned building. So unless I missed the memo where the Outback and Antarctica became synonymous, theorizing that there might be abandoned buildings around is a perfectly valid point, and you're only coming across as a poor competitor with your snark there, FYI.

(From what I recall, the Outback as seen in the X-Men comics contained a number of small towns, ranches, and the like.)

Thank you, Kalen. <3

Mattbib posted a "summary" of what the stages were like and in the Australian Outback one, he mentioned abandoned buildings and whatnot. So I merely incorporated what he said into the strategy.

[Jack Flash]

I have a question. Thunderbird is a pacifist who has been shown to be petrified of hurting someone with his powers. I am not sure he'd launch such a ferocious attack naturally, but is this Tbird without his personality limitations for the contest?

[chemicalx]

Okay I only read like the first page so far, so here:



Tempo is being cloaked by Phantazia immediately after I think the first chapter? It says on there somewhere I believe.

Since storm can view energy patterns wouldnt she know that something/someone were being cloaked just by there being a void? I think she did this once in Xtreme to see something that was invisible.



Phantazia disrupts Storm's flight. She's disrupted Cannonball's blastfield, sending him to the ground before [X-Force #7]. Notice how I didn't have Storm defeated just from the collision on to the ground, she instead gets up again later but is defeated by Avalanche.


Another thought, i see here is that Phantazia disrupting Cannonball would be different than disrupting Storm. Sam's power is biochemical in nature and would be much easier for Ph to cancell/disrupt storms power is psychic and uses an exteral energy source ie wind so i dont know if the flight disruption thig would work.

[The Fury]

Thunderbird has a plasma form? and Captain Britain can move at the speed of sound?
Thunderbird's plasma based energy is usually used by him in beams but at times he can cover his body in it which is hot to the touch.

Captain Britain can fly at 770mph top speed. Which is commonly recognised as the speed of sound.

I also didn't like the distinctions between sub-sonic and speed of light. I think Tempo would be able to get her move off before Storm could nail her. I also like how Nyssane didn't just analyze the powers of opponenets, but also their experience, such as with Rockslide.
Subsonic is below speed of sound.


Arclight created an earthquake by pounding the ground several times. Look at the flashback in X-Men #202, she brings down an entire mansion by punching the ground. Not to mention X-Men #201, where she brings down Mystique's house. You're probably mistaking Arclight with the MOVIE version, who claps her hands together to create shockwaves.
Class 50 strength I could bring down a house (couple of hits on the foundations and away it goes) but can she bury it? As that's well within Avalanches power.

She is also being attacked by Thunderbird.

I know what she is capable of, I used her 2 years ago.

[venuscameback]

That was a really good analysis... we sex now? ;)

sex? that wins my vote :D

Naw, I really appreciate the time you put into it. <3 I think my team would stand a chance in the final outcome, though the Fury's seems to have more pure power. If Flatman would be able to take out Avalanche (his paper-thin body might give him some advantage over Avalanche's powers), Mindblast vs. Captain Britain, Phantazia could easily render herself invisible to Storm and have the finishing blow a bio-blast.


Captain Britain has enhanced senses via his costume that could - in theory -enable him to see Phantazia, and Storm might well detect her - she's canny enough to do that, but can she detect her in time? I'm not sure about the rest, I'm still weighing it all up

[Nyssane]

Okay, I didn't expect to have much time but since I do, I'll defend my team now:

Initial Actions (all as start):
- Mentallo, while taking flight, locks onto Lorelei and mind bolts her, she has no defense so is an easy target.
- Storm fires a large lightning bolt at the other team, mainly aiming for Tempo as her ability to speed up her team gives them a first attack edge but her speed is only subsonic, lightning is speed of light so will not be easy to dodge.
- Thunderbird, while taking flight, fires a large concussive beam at Acrlight but makes it a constant flow of energy afterwards firing at the entire other team.
- Avalanche creates a large 50 foot wave in front of him that rushes to the other team, he intends to crash this on them. Captain Britain flies behind this wave at this stage, keeping up with it.
- Cloak take Rockslide into his cloak and teleports to the other team right next to Mindblast, he drops off Rockslide and takes Mindblast and teleports another 400 yard behind the team, here he drops off Mindblast and battles her here.

I didn't realize Mentallo could fly, all sources I've read fail to mention it but I'll take your word for it -- that is why I did not have him fly in the beginning of mine. And even if he was able to dodge Arclight's tremor, Mindblast would immediately grab him and pummel him before Cloak is able to teleport her away (if Tempo is indeed taken out so early by Storm, she'd still be able to boost her teammates slightly, giving Mindblast somewhat of an edge.)

Mindblast's power cannot produce shields but can lift alot of mass, so she would be able to block the coming wall of rock, away from the battle she cannot do this. [quote]

She could fly towards the team to try to aid them. Her tractor beams can affect things quite far from her, she once grabbed an airplane out of the sky and tried to use it as a weapon against Spider-Man.

[QUOTE]Primary Actions:
- Captain Britain, from behind the wave of rock in a kind of surprise type move, speeds up to his near max (speed of sound) and flies over the wave and heads for Tempo, due to ehr speed only being subsonic, Captain Britain has speed and reactions enough to find and take her out, once he locates her he rams into her and uses his strength to knock her out. There is a chance she will use her powers on him, but he is protected by his shield from any physical harm so will continue until he takes her out.
- Rockslide will attack Lorelei. He wil try to knock her out as Mentallo is attacking her psychically. Once he does Mentallo is freed up again.
- Thunderbird moves in on the other team, chaning to plasma form, he stays flying high above the team and fires beams of heat at them, to scortch and burn them. He also fire s in such a pattern that keeps them in a tight group. any that stray he fires at to keep in the group.
- Storm uses her wind to also keep their team in a tight group, she can create gale force winds which can blow someone over so shouldn't be too hard.
- The wave only takes a short time to reach the other side, Avalanche crashes it onto the other team. It is probably several hundred tonnes of rock and Mindblast is not near the main battle to stop it. Arclight's shockwave might produce some resistance but Avalanche has near control over the rock itself.
- Cloak will fight Mindblast, his intangible body protects him as her powers will not work on him, but he can force his body to harden through will, so he will use what fighting skills he has (not many I think) to just punch her. Then remain intangible so she cannot retaliate.

I highly doubt Captain Britain would be able to just charge at Tempo. Even if he has super-speed, she is able to conjure up super-speed for herself and she could at least attempt to dodge his attacks rather than just sit there and let him beat her.

Even if Mindblast's powers cannot affect Cloak, she could easily pick up a building in the surrounding area and smash it onto him. There's definitely some debris or something she can use as a weapon in the Outback. I think you're almost ignoring the stage that the strategies take place on.

I also think you're largely underestimating Phantazia and Anaconda during the battle. Granted Anaconda is not the fastest character, she's definitely the most resilient and could handle most of what you're throwing at her. Phantazia would also not just sit idly by as her team falls down.

Main Actions:
- Hopefully the other team were buried in rock. Mentallo uses his powers to find the survivors and helps the rest of his team track them down and take them out.

Your strategy depends too much on Avalanche and assuming that my characters are standing all together in a close-knit circle.

First target is Phantazia, my main worry here is that her powers can be used to depower anyone in the close proximity but this has only been used on mutants and has never shown to affect mysticaly powered beings, ala Captain Britain.

I beg to differ. Phantazia used her abilities on Sleepwalker to disrupt his powers, and he is not a mutant. There's no telling what she could do to Captain Britain, so that is merely assumptuous.

Mentallo will find her and start mind bolting her, this will hopefully disrupt her enough to stop her using her power, if they remain, she might be invisible. Captain Britain has an extra power that allows him to sense when things are not as they seem, so he can sense through holograms or illusions, this includes Phantazia's invisibility. He will find her and knock her out using his strength wile she is being attacked by Mentallo.
- Storm and Thunderbird swoop closer and attack those who they can find. Thunderbird with concussive beams, Storm with lightning based electricity. Thunderbird will find Anaconda and shoot her fro m a range, Storm will do the same for Arclight, neither land on the ground.They continue until both Anaconda and Arclight are down.
- Rockslide was no doubt caught also by the rock wave but as his body is basically rock, he can just reform himself again. once he does, he'll find Flatman and attack him.
- Cloak is still fighting Mindblast.

You're underestimating Flatman, once again. He's just going to be standing there the whole time waiting to be attacked? I don't think so.

Final Actions:
- Time to finish people off, Mentallo finds random enemies and mind bolts them putting them off until they are taken out by their attackers.
- Captain Britain, after he finishes with Phantazia will find Mindblast and Cloak and attack Mindblast and knock her out. He could be stopped by her but with Cloak attacking her as well, hopefully that is enough distraction.
- Once Storm has shocked Arclight unconsious and Thunderbird taken out Anaconda, they seek out anyone who is left to take them out. This might just be Flatman, with Storm, Thunderbird and Rockslide attacking he should go down quickly. Storm uses her lightning to electocute him.

You have a good strategy but I think you concentrate too much on defeating them without taking into account the separate achievements they're able to work on. We both missed on some parts (you with Phantazia not being able to attack non-mutants, and me with Mentallo not flying), but I highly doubt the characters you overlooked (Anaconda, Flatman, and occasionally Phantazia) would be as easily taken out as you strategized them to be, OR as useless as you make them seem (Flatman doesn't do anything until the end?).

Good job, though!

[Nyssane]

Class 50 strength I could bring down a house (couple of hits on the foundations and away it goes) but can she bury it? As that's well within Avalanches power.

She is also being attacked by Thunderbird.

I know what she is capable of, I used her 2 years ago.



Well you certainly didn't know she could devastate a building using tremors.

[chemicalx]

question regarding Tempo: Can she fly, speed up anaconda and stop cloak at the same time? *edit* I see that she is doing one thing at a time so i guess its ok...

However i think she does get drained really fast the more people she is affecting and depending on what she is doing. In a few issues she has lost power after giving her team superspeed so she may not be able to do the other tricks after speeding up the group.

[Pach!]

My vote goes to Nyssane.

I feel Tempo would cause her team to attack first and he does a good job explaining how the other team would eventually go down.

As most times, it comes down to who attacks first, and Tempo is the winner here.


Go Nyss!

[Nyssane]

question regarding Tempo: Can she fly, speed up anaconda and stop cloak at the same time?

I always got the sense that her powers required lots of concentration to work and that they took a lot out of the people she was using them on.

She stopped the entire X-Mansion from moving at all while still allowing the Acolytes mobility. Stopping one character, boosting another, and flying shouldn't be that hard.

Considering in X-Factor #81 (I think), Tempo was flying around while all of her teammates (about 9 others) were given super-speed.

[The Fury]

Well you certainly didn't know she could devastate a building using tremors.
...Well, i did. If you take that any tremors to buildings are bad, enough of them and the building falls down.

Learnt that in school when studying earthquakes.


Oh and Mentallo flies due to a jetpack that The Fixer made for him years ago, he still has it and uses it.

[Nyssane]

Another thought, i see here is that Phantazia disrupting Cannonball would be different than disrupting Storm. Sam's power is biochemical in nature and would be much easier for Ph to cancell/disrupt storms power is psychic and uses an exteral energy source ie wind so i dont know if the flight disruption thig would work.

Even if she couldn't disrupt Storm, she blasted her out of the sky in a Hardee's X-Men #4 (which is IN canon, btw).

[chemicalx]

Even if she couldn't disrupt Storm, she blasted her out of the sky in a Hardee's X-Men #4 (which is IN canon, btw).


ok that works I was just trying to get that point. I still think that tempo is more limited in the use of her power than she is here. there is a limit to how long she can do all the stuff she is doing.

great strategies either way

[Brian M.]

This is a tough choice, never seems like a mutant league match is easily decided. I think Storm still takes our Tempo, but I think Tempo does allow for a quick boost in time for her team. I think Arclight and Avalanche cancel each other out. From there it's a chess match and I can't decide who I think comes out of that. I do think Storm gets taken out by Phantazia though...it's tough choice. I'll vote in a couple hours. I wanna give each player a chance to continue the debate more.

[Swashbuckler]

Even if she couldn't disrupt Storm, she blasted her out of the sky in a Hardee's X-Men #4 (which is IN canon, btw).

You referenced the Hardees comic? AUTO WIN!

[Josef F.]

I think both strategies were excellent, true say.
But I think Nysanne Pipped you to the post a little bit.
It's damn close though.

[The Lucky One]

You referenced the Hardees comic? AUTO WIN!

Does that also apply to the Pizza Hut comics? Because I can definitely reference those on Wednesday.

-D

[Nyssane]

You referenced the Hardees comic? AUTO WIN!

I *LOVE* the Hardee's comics. They were my first exposure to Phantazia (well the premiums were... I never had the comics til I won them on ebay later).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v231/ursula_boi/hardee4_04.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v231/ursula_boi/hardee4_05.jpg

Does that also apply to the Pizza Hut comics? Because I can definitely reference those on Wednesday.

-D

It's possible, I just remember one of the handbooks mention the events of the Hardee's comic and I was baffled they consider it in-canon.

[Nyssane]

I can't believe I'm so far in the lead. :o I was nervous people would think my strategy was teh ghey.

Though this certainly does show SIDDON and those chumps who thought so little of my team. :D

[Fatguy]

I really do like both strategies, but I ended up voting Nyss. His strat is so well researched, it deserves the bump over the top.

[The Lucky One]

Though this certainly does show SIDDON and those chumps who thought so little of my team. :D

Yeah, but now I'm all worried that Speed's going to kick all of our asses...

-D

[Christopher O]

I wanted to see more discussion before I voted, but I probably won't be on later and will end up missing the cut-off. Soooooo, nice job, CLINT.

[Diablito]

Great first match to the both of you! Now, down to business:

Tempo was used perfectly by Nyssane. Her use of power seems to be well within her abilities, and they were creative enough to get my vote.

Fury's strategy was almost as impressive, but it was not as detailed or as intuitive as Nyssane's. I thought Rockslide would be a much better fighter here, but he seemed to be a one note brawler. Great job though.

So overall, I give my vote to my sista NYSSANE!!! Great strategy, and I'm excited to see your next match!

[The Fury]

I have a question. Thunderbird is a pacifist who has been shown to be petrified of hurting someone with his powers. I am not sure he'd launch such a ferocious attack naturally, but is this Tbird without his personality limitations for the contest?
He still uses hi powers when they are needed and he's attacking Arclight who can take it then, jsut keeping other busy until the wave of rush crashes onto them.

You referenced the Hardees comic? AUTO WIN!
Thanks for coming. :)

[Mitsaso]

I vote for The Fury because his fonts are prettier.:o









KIDDING!!!!!!!!!!:p

This is a great match, guys, an awesome opening for Mutant League 2008. I'm especially pleased how the supposed underdog seems to take it equally seriously as the living legend of the competition, Fury.

I think it all depends on whether Tempo can pull off what she's gotta do before she ends up playing the harp up in the clouds with Qwerty, but I'll have to consult with my partner-in-crime Novaya before voting.

Unless he has voted already...!:p

[Novaya Havoc]

I vote for The Fury because his fonts are prettier.:o









KIDDING!!!!!!!!!!:p

This is a great match, guys, an awesome opening for Mutant League 2008. I'm especially pleased how the supposed underdog seems to take it equally seriously as the living legend of the competition, Fury.

I think it all depends on whether Tempo can pull off what she's gotta do before she ends up playing the harp up in the clouds with Qwerty, but I'll have to consult with my partner-in-crime Novaya before voting.

Unless he has voted already...!:p

OMG OOPS. I forgot we voted as TEAMS. I voted, and shall explain why I did the way I did later -- I've just been busy at work!

[Flight]

I vote Nyssane.

[Siddon]

I can't believe I'm so far in the lead. :o I was nervous people would think my strategy was teh ghey.

Though this certainly does show SIDDON and those chumps who thought so little of my team. :D

Well I assumed your sucking from last year would carry over

So anyways lets look at the strats

"prologue" you don't get to "prologue", its a cheap way to give Tempo three moves, and as we already saw in X-men Tempo can't use that much power without passing out. Stage 1 you have Storm fireing a Lightening bolt at Tempo while Phantazia is taking on Storm. Though I don't think you need to speed up an invisible character I will give you a push and say Storm and Tempo will be out for round one.

Arclight's imeadiate power shouldn't effect anyone on Fury's team but will take out Avalanche and Rockslide

Not knowing Mentallo can fly will cost you so I say Mentallo stays in. Anaconnda vs Captain Britian and Flat man vs Thunderbird... yeah I don't think so.

Nysanne loses Tempo, Anaconnda, and Flatman
Fury loses Storm, and Avalanche, and Rockslide

Round 2

Lorelei gets taken out by Mentallo and Mentallo should be taken out by Mindblast at this time
Captain Britain takes out Phantazia
Mindblast/Arclight takes out Cloak

Nysanne loses Lorelei and Phantazia
Fury loses Mentallo and Cloak

Round 3

That would leave

Mindblast and Arclight vs Captain Britain and Thunderbird

In that situation I am leaning towards for Captain Britain and Thunderbird but I will give Nysanne some time and I am going to look up Mindblast appearences before I make my final decision

[Mitsaso]

OMG OOPS. I forgot we voted as TEAMS. I voted, and shall explain why I did the way I did later -- I've just been busy at work!

LOL, and I really wanna see the score but can't unless I vote first...!:evilangry
Get in AIM when you're able to, wanna chitty chat a bit 'bout our own strat, ok benny boy?;)

I would if Arclight and Avalanche would cancel each other out?
I think their wave thingies would meet in the middle of the field and create a big ole' chasm there, leaving the teams unaffected but creating a small Grand Canyon between them.

[pryde15]

OMG OOPS. I forgot we voted as TEAMS. I voted, and shall explain why I did the way I did later -- I've just been busy at work!

we have to vote as teams!??!?!??!? craaaaaap. WELL, sorry Lex, it seems I have made the decision for us. :D

[Siddon]

Well after tracking down the issues with Mindblast I would have to say, you have exagerated her powers a little bit and by little bit I mean a whole hell of a lot. Considering she couldn't beat TARANTULA without losing to the dreaded KICK TO THE GUT. I would say she is a little outclassed here. Amazing Spider-man 343

My vote is Fury.

[Novaya Havoc]

LOL, and I really wanna see the score but can't unless I vote first...!:evilangry
Get in AIM when you're able to, wanna chitty chat a bit 'bout our own strat, ok benny boy?;)


LOL! You CAN vote. Bib won't count it. OMGz I need to get back to work.

[Nyssane]

Well I assumed your sucking from last year would carry over

I'm not even going to bother reading your post since you begin with this rudeness.

[lockerogue]

I'm going for Nyssane.

[Brian M.]

Wow...didn't expect this to be that big a difference in voting #'s. I figured it'd be tight. I was gonna cast my vote for Fury. While I think Tempo gets taken out and Phantazia gets Storm I still think Fury's team has enough power to pull it out.

Great job to both.

[Siddon]

I'm not even going to bother reading your post since you begin with this rudeness.

Oh I'm sorry I thought you called me out first..... oh wait you did. Lets not over react its not like 10 X-cres posters didn't show up and vote for you. :rolleyes:

Ignore my points and have a nice day.

[Fatguy]

Oh I'm sorry I thought you called me out first..... oh wait you did. Lets not over react its not like 10 X-cres posters didn't show up and vote for you. :rolleyes:

Ignore my points and have a nice day.

lol this is why I hate voting in these things....

If you vote for a person you know, its CONSPIRACY.

[Josef F.]

lol this is why I hate voting in these things....

If you vote for a person you know, its CONSPIRACY.

WHY CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG.:( :(

[Nyssane]

Oh I'm sorry I thought you called me out first..... oh wait you did. Lets not over react its not like 10 X-cres posters didn't show up and vote for you. :rolleyes:

Ignore my points and have a nice day.

Pardon? All I said was that it should surprise YOU (who gave me a C- during your team score) how well I'm doing in the league. That's calling you out? Whatever, people like you make the Mutant League such a drag.

And let it be known that I don't even know half the people who voted for me, and the other half I told at the beginning I wanted to win based purely on strategy and not as a popularity contest, so I don't know what you're insinuating.

[Siddon]

lol this is why I hate voting in these things....

If you vote for a person you know, its CONSPIRACY.

I don't think its a conspiracy, but I will be tracking X-cres voters. I don't think it's fair to have one thread where you campaign for one team, a trashtalking thread, and the match thread. I don't have any power in the situation but I can be really obnoixious about it. :D If you want an alliance cool its just a game which I am not participating in. I already won. There is also a big difference between the first match and the last match... all I know is that I was called into this match by one poster rather rudely and I responded as such, but I also provided detailed look at the matches, tracked down issues with the characters and voted.

[Fatguy]

I don't think its a conspiracy, but I will be tracking X-cres voters. I don't think it's fair to have one thread where you campaign for one team, a trashtalking thread, and the match thread. I don't have any power in the situation but I can be really obnoixious about it. :D If you want an alliance cool its just a game which I am not participating in. I already won. There is also a big difference between the first match and the last match... all I know is that I was called into this match by one poster rather rudely and I responded as such, but I also provided detailed look at the matches, tracked down issues with the characters and voted.

Well, the chances of X-Cres posters voting for other X-Cres posters is pretty high, considering the fact that there are so many regular X-Board posters who are X-Cressers.

So, having a high number of X-Cres votes doesnt really mean an alliance. If you look at all 31 people who voted, I only recognize 5 who dont post in X-Cres.

[Siddon]

That's calling you out? Whatever, people like you make the Mutant League such a drag.


And people like you are why I am taking this year off from playing. People vote for there friends thats just the nature of the beast. We will see how you do and who votes for you as the game moves on, but when half your votes come from posters who are also posting in the X-cres thread about the mutant tournament THAT just seems a little unfair to me. Also seeing the moderator of the game post about feigning objectivity THAT bothers me a bit.

You won your first match congradulations can't wait for the second one. You wrote a good strategy just know that I will be posting in all the threads this year.

I posted, I voted, and I am done with this conversation later.

[Josef F.]

Also seeing the moderator of the game post about feigning objectivity THAT bothers me a bit.

Yeah, but that's about she who shall not be named.
So it's way fair.

[Nyssane]

And people like you are why I am taking this year off from playing. People vote for there friends thats just the nature of the beast. We will see how you do and who votes for you as the game moves on, but when half your votes come from posters who are also posting in the X-cres thread about the mutant tournament THAT just seems a little unfair to me. Also seeing the moderator of the game post about feigning objectivity THAT bothers me a bit.

You won your first match congradulations can't wait for the second one. You wrote a good strategy just know that I will be posting in all the threads this year.

I posted, I voted, and I am done with this conversation later.

That's fine, and I appreciate your honesty with your votes and postings, but if you want to talk about voting for friends, why, Jarrod voted for the Fury without the strategies even being up. And The Fury is just as, probably more, popular than I am, in X-Cres or elsewhere on the board. So I don't know why you're assuming everyone's going to rush in to vote for me simply because I talk to them in X-Cres, especially after I deliberately told them not to.

I dunno, is it because my team is full of no-namers that you think my team possibly couldn't win without me begging other people to vote for me?

[The Fury]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v231/ursula_boi/hardee4_05.jpg

Cool image references.

Doesn't look like 100 yards though. :) 5 at best.

I vote Nyssane.
:(

Okay. :)

LOL! You CAN vote. Bib won't count it. OMGz I need to get back to work.
It's best if you don't as some people might see the results before voting and get swung by the score if a one team has a bigger margin.

I'm currently at 10 after all.

Well, the chances of X-Cres posters voting for other X-Cres posters is pretty high, considering the fact that there are so many regular X-Board posters who are X-Cressers.

So, having a high number of X-Cres votes doesnt really mean an alliance. If you look at all 31 people who voted, I only recognize 5 who dont post in X-Cres.

Would you class me as an X-cresser? Just because I don't post there now, doesn't mean I'm not one of them.

[MarvelGirlBoy]

Well, to be honest, The Fury's team has power that might have been slightly underestimated but I think that Nyssane's strategy is so tight and well-researched and thought out (minus the Mentallo slip-up) that it does win my vote. The team seemed to all be utilising each others' strengths, which also shows teamwork, though I worry for Tempo in future rounds.

But yeah, Nyssane definitely gets my vote. And I never post in X-Cres. And Nyssane always disses my favourite character :( lolz.

[The Fury]

And The Fury is just as, probably more, popular than I am, in X-Cres or elsewhere on the board.

Most of the people I knew from yester-X-cresses have left sadly...

I have no friends. :(

[Brian M.]

Most of the people I knew from yester-X-cresses have left sadly...

I have no friends. :(

I thought we we're friends? Or do you still hate me becuase I vote for Bush and Republicans?

Since I said it in X-Cres I'll say it here too, I really don't like any of you. So my vote is completely unbiased. Except Speed, I like Speed. I gotta vote for her, she has my girl Qwerty. Plus if I vote against her I'll get banned and we all know I can't get another one of those.

[Nyssane]

Well, to be honest, The Fury's team has power that might have been slightly underestimated but I think that Nyssane's strategy is so tight and well-researched and thought out (minus the Mentallo slip-up) that it does win my vote. The team seemed to all be utilising each others' strengths, which also shows teamwork, though I worry for Tempo in future rounds.

But yeah, Nyssane definitely gets my vote. And I never post in X-Cres. And Nyssane always disses my favourite character :( lolz.

LOL :( Will heaps of mansex make up for the bashing of Rachel Grey (who I will never like ever)?



Most of the people I knew from yester-X-cresses have left sadly...

I have no friends. :(

Aww! I like you when you're not in Mutant League Sarcastic Butthole mode. :D AND THAT IS NOT A DIG, I AM BEING SINCERE.

[Nyssane]

Cool image references.

Doesn't look like 100 yards though. :) 5 at best.


Oh, that wasn't where she shot her out of the sky. It was at the end of Issue #3, and I can't find it to scan it in. :( But Storm's flying around looking for the Brotherhood when Phantazia, who is on the shore below, shoots her out of the sky and creating a CLIFFHANGER.

[The Fury]

I thought we we're friends? Or do you still hate me becuase I vote for Bush and Republicans?

Since I said it in X-Cres I'll say it here too, I really don't like any of you. So my vote is completely unbiased. Except Speed, I like Speed. I gotta vote for her, she has my girl Qwerty. Plus if I vote against her I'll get banned and we all know I can't get another one of those.
Yay, friend. I like you. :)

Republican's are fine. Voting republican fine...Who's your choice btw?

*steps over the Bush thing*

[Brian M.]

Yay, friend. I like you. :)

Republican's are fine. Voting republican fine...Who's your choice btw?

*steps over the Bush thing*


I got no clue...I gotta figure out which one hates the gays more.

I kid. Romney probably.

[Mitsaso]

I thought we we're friends? Or do you still hate me becuase I vote for Bush and Republicans?

Since I said it in X-Cres I'll say it here too, I really don't like any of you. So my vote is completely unbiased. Except Speed, I like Speed. I gotta vote for her, she has my girl Qwerty. Plus if I vote against her I'll get banned and we all know I can't get another one of those.


Oh please Brian, we ALL know Speed is your secret alter ego!
When midnight comes, your schizophrenia reveals the rude teenage french girl within your soul!!!!!!:eek:

[MarvelGirlBoy]

LOL :( Will heaps of mansex make up for the bashing of Rachel Grey (who I will never like ever)?


Rachel... who? ;)

Oh and Fury, just to say, my vote for Nyssane is not a reflection on your strategy being bad. You picked an awesome team, but, for me, you were outmatched. Great first battle though - I didn't even think I'd like Mutant League!

Edit: *steps over the Bush thing*


Did you just call Bush a *thing*? XD

[The Fury]

Aww! I like you when you're not in Mutant League Sarcastic Butthole mode. :D AND THAT IS NOT A DIG, I AM BEING SINCERE.
Meet me in real life, most of me is Sarcastic Butthole mode. :rolleyes:

Oh, that wasn't where she shot her out of the sky. It was at the end of Issue #3, and I can't find it to scan it in. :( But Storm's flying around looking for the Brotherhood when Phantazia, who is on the shore below, shoots her out of the sky and creating a CLIFFHANGER.
How far does it look? 100 yards is along way and Storm is moving and expecting an attack here.

I always worry that the 100 yards rule is forgotten a lot, just taking our match, I've missed on a couple of things with range, same goes for you. If I didn't move Cap B, 100 yards is some serious long snake arm things for Anaconda.

[The Fury]

I got no clue...I gotta figure out which one hates the gays more.

I kid. Romney probably.


Oh and Fury, just to say, my vote for Nyssane is not a reflection on your strategy being bad. You picked an awesome team, but, for me, you were outmatched. Great first battle though - I didn't even think I'd like Mutant League!
I know...wait, my team was outmatched? I'm sorry but no, if your going to vote for the other team, say it's the strategies because now I don't believe you.

Did you just call Bush a *thing*? XD
G Dubya Bush? Yeah.

[MarvelGirlBoy]

I know...wait, my team was outmatched? I'm sorry but no, if your going to vote for the other team, say it's the strategies because now I don't believe you.


Well, by 'outmatched', I meant I thought Nyssane's strategy was better. I just didn't want to repeat the word strategy because I'm an English student. But feel free not to believe me...

[Nyssane]

I know...wait, my team was outmatched? I'm sorry but no, if your going to vote for the other team, say it's the strategies because now I don't believe you.

That's the biggest problem I had with your strategy... you seemed to think my team was so far below yours in terms of power. And I mean, Lorelei and Mindblast aren't no major powerhouses, but utilized properly they can be very deadly (especially with your male-oriented team). You mentioned Anaconda and Flatman once, maybe twice each, and instead just lumped them into the plural "group" term. I tried to look at each of your characters individually to realize their strengths and weaknesses, instead of just doing mass-attacks to dwindle your team down.

I'm not trying to say my strategy was so much greater than yours so I hope I don't give that impression off. I'm just saying I think, had you paid more attention to individual characters, you would've slaughtered my team.

[Rachel Grey]

I voted Fury. I think folks are really selling his team short, yeah Storm got taken out in that comic page posted but that looked a lot closer than 100 yards. I think Storm's still in the running.

[Pach!]

I voted Fury. I think folks are really selling his team short, yeah Storm got taken out in that comic page posted but that looked a lot closer than 100 yards. I think Storm's still in the running.

I voted Nyssane because I think folks are selling Tempo short. She stopped the whole mansion while flying in. Not even slowed down, but completely stopped. And was still walking around later.

That was the decisive factor for me. Tempo definitely gives the advantage to Nyssane. I also liked how Lorelei would take care of an otherwise almost immortal Rockslide. He is a horny teenager though.:)

[Flight]

Lets not over react its not like 10 X-cres posters didn't show up and vote for you. :rolleyes: Oh god LOL What a load of crap.
You (and a certain other cheating poster) don't even post in the X-Forum anymore yet you come back for this and - surprise, surprise - throw in a vote for Furious. PREDICTABLE.

Nyssane has defended his strategy well but because he isn't part of your geeky clique you make holes in his strategy that aren't even there.

NYSSANE FTW.

[The Fury]

Well, by 'outmatched', I meant I thought Nyssane's strategy was better. I just didn't want to repeat the word strategy because I'm an English student. But feel free not to believe me...
Oh gotcha, makes sense now. :)

Cool for your vote.

And I mean, Lorelei and Mindblast aren't no major powerhouses, but utilized properly they can be very deadly (especially with your male-oriented team).
I know how powerful and poentially annoying those can be that is why I try to deal with them early. There is a reason I have Mentallo attack the one character that can turn my ENTIRE team but Storm against me. And removing Mindblast was to make my wave attack work.

It's a very awkward team with alot of dynamic powers.


I tried to look at each of your characters individually to realize their strengths and weaknesses, instead of just doing mass-attacks to dwindle your team down.
A lot of my strategies are similar to this. If you say individual characters name and that you have a certain character attack them, certain things might happen on the other person's strategies that makes your attack useless. I try and cover bases by mentioning the team as a whole.


I know the characters well and their capabilties are known to me, I dealt with them in the manner I thought best. In most cases I thought it worked, Mentallo for one was not dealt with in a convincing way, his flight means he wasn't harmed at the start which also means the attack later on his fails. I also know Arclight can't counter the wave by Avalanche without having Mindblast defending on your side, I think his wave buries most your team. But this isn't saying my team don't make mistakes.

[The Fury]

FTW.

Random question as I actually don't know but what does the abreviation 'FTW' stand for?

Abrieviation.
Abreiviation.
abriviation .
... How do you spell this word? My fire fox says it's wrong.

*bored*

[Pach!]

Random question as I actually don't know but what does the abreviation 'FTW' stand for?

Abrieviation.
Abreiviation.
abriviation .
... How do you spell this word? My fire fox says it's wrong.

*bored*

For the win. Abbreviation

[Nyssane]

I know the characters well and their capabilties are known to me, I dealt with them in the manner I thought best. In most cases I thought it worked, Mentallo for one was not dealt with in a convincing way, his flight means he wasn't harmed at the start which also means the attack later on his fails. I also know Arclight can't counter the wave by Avalanche without having Mindblast defending on your side, I think his wave buries most your team. But this isn't saying my team don't make mistakes.


Yeah, but if Mentallo were indeed in the air, that would just mean Mindblast would use her attack on him earlier on and render him unconscious for the battle.

[The Fury]

For the win. Abbreviation
Woh...so not with it. :D

And thanks.

Yeah, but if Mentallo were indeed in the air, that would just mean Mindblast would use her attack on him earlier on and render him unconscious for the battle.
Yeah but then Mindblast has been teleported by Cloak away from the battle.

Right it's late here, I'll have to see the score by the morrow.

[Siddon]

Oh god LOL What a load of crap.
You (and a certain other cheating poster) don't even post in the X-Forum anymore yet you come back for this and - surprise, surprise - throw in a vote for Furious. PREDICTABLE.


I never left sweetie, are you still mad that I got you banned? I also never left the X-forum, anyone can track my posts and see that I still post in X-threads.


Oh and FTW is vote for the Worst


Which according to the rules means Flight's vote is forfeit.

[Flight]

I never left sweetie, are you still mad that I got you banned? Do I look banned?

Sweetie? LOL

[Dagger]

This is like watching celebs go ballistic on the paparazzi! I love it!

[Jesse Newcomb]

Bitch fight! http://forum.floppop.com/style_emoticons/default/rah.gif


http://forum.floppop.com/style_emoticons/default/scrap.gif

I voted for Nyss Bitch because his was so well written and easy to read, and The Fury did his strategy half-assed and severely underestimated his opposing team.

And Siddon, unclench. A lot of people in this thread needs to, this is just glorified Dungeons and Dragons.:p

[Flâneur]

Go Clinty Linty Binty!!! <3

[Hi-Fi]

Siddon is so predictable. I was waiting for his ridiculous speech we get every year, but it came sooner this time!

I don't have any power in the situation but I can be really obnoixious about it.
Oh, you definitely can!

If you want an alliance cool its just a game which I am not participating in. I already won.
Really?? I didn't notice that in your huge signature.

[Sheldon]

I liked Nysanne's opening salvo. I think arclight's shockwave would get off quick enough that just as Avalanche is making his wall of stone it would get disrupted and most of Fury's team will end up under a pile of rock.

[DeniseXfrost]

Hmm I'm leaning toward Nyssane althogh I hate the fact Tempo was over used throughout the match.

[The Lucky One]

Most of the people I knew from yester-X-cresses have left sadly...

I have no friends. :(

I'm still your friend, Fury! Granted I don't post much in the Cres anymore (and I haven't decided who I'll vote for yet), but we're still friends! You limey bastard.

-D

[frog]

I waffled with this one for a while but finally voted for Nyssane. The strategy seems very well thought out and convincing.

[The Lucky One]

If you want an alliance cool its just a game which I am not participating in. I already won.

Yeah, well, so have I, and so has The Fury. That doesn't mean our votes count double or anything.




.....Wait. Do our votes count double? Because, you know, that would be super.

-D

[Brian M.]

Yeah, well, so have I, and so has The Fury. That doesn't mean our votes count double or anything.




.....Wait. Do our votes count double? Because, you know, that would be super.

-D

Yours would, but since you were a swimmer you only get one. Half a man only gets one vote.

[Askani's Flame]

Wow, both strategies were really thought out.

Nyssane: You did a lot of research and I appreciated site references to them using their abilities as you have portrayed them. Your strategy for the most part is pretty tight, BUT I'm not too keen on the Prologue bit. Why? Because it comes off as if Tempo's allowed to do something before anyone else. Also your strategy is almost "too Tempo" - she could definitely do most of what you're having her do but I don't know how long she could keep it up.

Fury: Kudos on a good strategy. I do think that Storm would be able to summon a bolt to Tempo before she fully works her mojo. Like the team combos. I do think that Cloak is overtaxed with intangible/tangible so quickly and Arclight would initially cancel out/disrupt Avalanche's slide.

SO, in the end I am placing my vote for Nyssane because it was well thought out, but more importantly because Nyssane gave some really good post info and answered questions fully. But I am not a fan of the prologue bit.

[The Lucky One]

Yours would, but since you were a swimmer you only get one. Half a man only gets one vote.

I think the fact that I'm not afraid to display my junk answers the question of which of us is half a man, bub. :rolleyes:

Geez, this one's tough. I have to go reread Tempo's recent appearances now.

-D

[Brian M.]

I think the fact that I'm not afraid to display my junk answers the question of which of us is half a man, bub. :rolleyes:

Geez, this one's tough. I have to go reread Tempo's recent appearances now.

-D

Hey look I'm sure your wife says it's the biggest she's ever...well you know. But you don't gotta call yourself half a man becuase of that. :D

[Novaya Havoc]

Why Mitsaso and I voted the way we (kinda -- sorry Mits!) did in this match
An Essay by Novaya Havoc

So Mits and I talked about it and still went with Nyssane this round. Why? Because he loves Dazzler #13. NO!!! That's not the reason!

The issue I have -- and have ALWAYS had -- with Mutant League is that no matter what the match and no matter who is playing, teams are going to go for the INSTA!KOs. To me, this is always anti-climactic and turns into a battle of "Well x could strike y before # could perform % move shielding your +!"

*snore*

While both teams do that, I have to give Nyss a +1 that he has the essence of time. It relies heavily on Tempo, but when you create a time-manipulating mutant, that's the name of the game, si? And it's probably why Tempo hasn't been used in FOREVER AND A DAY until recently.
Perhaps in the future Bib should up the draft points on time-manipulators (2 points?), but that's neither here nor there.

On the Tempo/Storm debate:
1. Phantazia's powers are largely undefined. Overall, this is Clint's strength and weakness -- his D-List love gives him an edge on knowing his team, but their lack of continuity leaves most of their powersets undefined. IMO, undefined powersets and abilities to pull moves off can either give someone the sense that it's possible (+1 for Nyss) or fanciful (-1 for Nyss).

2. Fury goes after Nyss's entire team claiming he's concentrating on Tempo with lightning. Now if this was Dazzler (shameless plug) firing a laser (shameless plug), I'd give this to Fury in a second. No windshear, speed of light, pinpoint accuracy. Lightning is not a precise beam. It's erupted energy, and while Storm can direct it (and has been shown with high accuracy), it's not definite. Given this, there's a high margin of error in Storm successfully taking Tempo down in one shot.

With that in mind, I think that Tempo altering time as Storm taking a wild shot gives the edge to Nyssane and a large win for his overall strategy.

Also:

Cloak's a powerful teleporter, but, IMO (or to-my-knowledge) not a quick one. If you're going to play the SIMULTANEOUSINSTA Card, you have to convince me that it's plausible as both a simultaneous and instant move. Cloak also cannot (again, to my knowledge -- someone prove me otherwise) account for what happens during travel. Mindblast could move, she could engage another enemy (as Nyssane did, with her in the air), or do something else entirely and Cloak AND Rockslide are exposed. If Cloak were Blink, I might buy it. But the time it takes to envelop a teammate, drop him off, and envelop a foe is stretching the timeframe AND ignoring how Tempo is wonking with it.

Also, given that Fury neglects the flight abilities of two essential TeamNyssane members -- Phantazia and Mindblast -- he leaves Nyssane's real damage-force of Tempo, Phantazia, and Mindblast in the clear.

Now, mind you, I think Nyssane relies on some cheap shots (Phantazia being able to KO both Storm and Captain Britain), but overall he uses excellent teamwork and doesn't overdo the insta-KOs via Tempo. He uses Tempo largely as a booster when instead he could have said "TEMPO STOPS TIME, TEAM WINS." Nyssane don't run on the cheap.

Mentallo should have gone for Phantazia, Tempo, or Mindblast from the outset. Instead he goes for Lorelai, who I think is one of Nyssane's two weakest members.

So while I dislike Nyssane's instaKOs of Fury's three most powerful bruisers (Storm, Mentallo, and CB), Fury really missed the mark in striking Lorelai first, using Thunderbird as his primary means of attack, having Storm try too hard to fry the whole team with ONE bolt (concentrated on Tempo), AND relying on an Avalanche wave when Arclight can do the same thing back before it affects his team.

Vote goes to Nyssane.

[The Lucky One]

I had a difficult time on the analysis of this one, I think because I'm used to thinking of Tempo in the way she's traditionally been used in the Mutant League- needing to fly around spreading her tachyon trail around whatever she's affecting, and with more limitations to her power. However, Nyssane's not exaggerating that she essentially stopped time in the whole mansion for a matter of a few minutes, so I'll just have to adjust my thinking. Here how I see it:

Tempo's speeding up of her team works, but while she's doing that Mentallo will be able to lift off and mindbolt Lorelei, putting her out. However, in turn I think that Mindblast gets him right afterward, as Nyssane's strategy dictates. Storm can blast lightning, but I'm inclined to agree that Tempo's movement and time-shifting would allow her, if not to fully dodge it, at least to not take the full brunt of the attack. (Although the metal helmet might not help.) Avalanche's earth attack is more powerful than Arclight's, but basically I think they'll just meet in the middle and mess the hell out of the whole terrain.

Phantazia I don't see as necessarily being able to hit Storm from that distance with a disruptor attack. Phantazia could probably get closer with her super-speed (from Tempo), although that's not specifically spelled out, so maybe it's irrelevent. Even if she did, I don't think I buy Storm letting herself get buried in the ground, as she's fast and one of the best fighters on earth even without her powers.

Tempo's power level is one thing, but I'm not sure I see her both speeding up one group and slowing down another person... that's pretty serious multi-tasking. I imagine Cloak would remain in slow motion, but I think the rest of the team would be moving at only slightly faster than normal speeds, if that. Either way, I can't see Captain Britain getting taken out by Anaconda's attack, speedy or no. He'd beat her, and with Lorelei out already, Avalanche wouldn't get immobilized. I have no trouble believing Arclight would take out Rockslide, but since's Lorelei not there for her to protect, I'd imagine the primary focus of her attack would be Avalanche. However, that's assuming any non-fliers could get over the terrain to the other side, which I find questionable. Either way, if she takes out Rockslide, Avalanche gets her; if she downs Dominic, Rockslide puts her down. Either way, one of them and her are out.

I think Thunderbird and Flatman is a stalemate- Neal wouldn't kill him, but Flatman wouldn't be able to get close enough to knock him out because of the flame. Normally I can't see Cloak getting taken out by Arclight in any circumstance, but the slow time bubble could alter that. However, since Arclight is out, I'd imagine Phantazia would take over the attack instead, and probably successfully. And since Cloak is moving at slow speed, he can't successfully carry out his attack on Mindblast. So at this point it's Cap Britain, Thunderbird, Storm (maybe), and Avalanche or Rockslide still up on Fury's team, and Tempo, Mindblast, Flatman, and Phantazia still conscious for Nyssane's squad. That's a really tight match, but by this point Tempo would have fewer people to focus on, and while Phantazia missed her first shot with her disruptor beam at Storm, she cloaked herself right afterward, so presumably she would get close enough to make her second.

I think that's the turning point- without Storm, The Fury's team can't quite match the power and effective teamwork of Nyssane's. I definitely think Nyssane might want to consider alternate strategies for taking out Thunderbird (how do you touch a guy surrounded by super-hot plasma?) and Captain Britain, but with Mindblast around, that kind of tips the scale. Sorry, TF- you put up an effective strategy, but both strats had a few (inevitable) question marks and disagreements in match-ups, and I think Nyss covered his bases just a bit more. Whoever loses, though, I know will have a ton of success in the lower bracket. Such a close first match of the season, I'm not looking forward to more like that, but what a fight! More, please!

-D

[venuscameback]

Which leaves:

Phantazia, Arclight (wounded by Thunderbird), Mindblast and Flatman

vs.

Avalanche, Cloak and the stunned/immobolised Storm and Captain Britain

I don't see anything in the debate that convinces me that this wouldn't be the endgame. My only nagging doubt is whether Lorelei's immobilisation of CB would end when she's knocked unconscious.

EDIT my bad, it's Phantazia who immobilises CB, not Lorelei, so that doubt is removed.

Arclight and Cloak are paired off and I don't see Arclight winning that - while Ecstacy was affected by light while using Cloak's stolen cloak I don't recall Cloak himself being affected by anything other than biomystical light. For a time I couldn't see how nyssane would then defeat Cloak but then I remembered Phantazia. Flatman has a degree of resistance to any of Avalanche's attacks - he could 'swim' through a pile of rocks or 'ride out' a tremor so he's well-placed to defeat him.

nyssane's team has the odds in their favour here, 4 against 2, which makes it a lot easier for them. So by the time Storm comes round she's got bigger things to worry about than where the cloaked Phantazia is, making it much easier for her to finish her off. An immobolised CB is effectively beaten.

I think nyssane over-estimates Tempo and Mindblast while The Fury under-estimates Mindblast and Flatman. I don't exactly rate Mindblast myself but it feels like The Fury's strategy almost disregards her, which allows her to snag and take out Mentallo at the start of the match. I like that nyssane doesn't go for the 'one shot' and they're down routine - let's face it, that's rarely how it works in the comics, so why should it work here? characters regularly miss their targets or taken multiple hits before going down. It's a tough contest and a great opening match but I think nyssane takes it.

[The Fury]

Congratulations on the win, I'll see you in the final.

[The Fury]

The issue I have -- and have ALWAYS had -- with Mutant League is that no matter what the match and no matter who is playing, teams are going to go for the INSTA!KOs. To me, this is always anti-climactic and turns into a battle of "Well x could strike y before # could perform % move shielding your +!"
I never assume that, this is why my team make sure characters are taken out. One lightning bolt might not take Tempo out but give me enough time for Cap B to finish her off. If the lightning bolt does take her out, all the more better.

2. Fury goes after Nyss's entire team claiming he's concentrating on Tempo with lightning. Now if this was Dazzler (shameless plug) firing a laser (shameless plug), I'd give this to Fury in a second. No windshear, speed of light, pinpoint accuracy. Lightning is not a precise beam. It's erupted energy, and while Storm can direct it (and has been shown with high accuracy), it's not definite. Given this, there's a high margin of error in Storm successfully taking Tempo down in one shot.
Entire team covers the bases, I miss Tempo, I might get another but it means the entire team has to make amends to survive, not just one.

You seem to think a lightning bolt is like a small electric shock or something? A lightning bolt once struck a football (soccer) field in South Africa, most the players were injured and they were spread out on the field. There is huge amounts of energy in one single beam that can fry a person and shock other near them. Tmepo cute little metal helmet works as a great conductor too.

Also, given that Fury neglects the flight abilities of two essential TeamNyssane members -- Phantazia and Mindblast -- he leaves Nyssane's real damage-force of Tempo, Phantazia, and Mindblast in the clear.
I knew they could fly but chose to instead try and keep them contained with Storm and Thunderbird.


Mentallo should have gone for Phantazia, Tempo, or Mindblast from the outset. Instead he goes for Lorelai, who I think is one of Nyssane's two weakest members.
Mindblast is not a threat, I assure you.

Fury really missed the mark in striking Lorelai first, using Thunderbird as his primary means of attack, having Storm try too hard to fry the whole team with ONE bolt (concentrated on Tempo), AND relying on an Avalanche wave when Arclight can do the same thing back before it affects his team..
Thunderbird is always going to be a primary means of attack, he has range, I'm not going to use him as close combat. He aims for Arclight.

One bolt that could kill you. Yeah, one tiny bolt...so harmless.

And for the love of crap NO! Arclight cannot send the same thing back. Arclight creates shockwave and does not control the ground itself.

I'm tired of people argueing that Arclight is in anywhere near the league of Avalanche. No way no how. Can she create a wave of rock that can cover your team? can she only a chasm that swallows them up? No. She can't, she can hit the ground.

Arclight is s***. I know it as I used her 2 years ago, I'd never pit her agaisnt Avalanche in a fight on fight to control ground as she'd lose.

[Maka Nani]

Both have very good strategies. Great starting match. But Avalanche wouldn't have a problem dealing with Arclight's tremors therefore Avalanche's tidal wave of rock would tumble down on part of Nyssane's team. I don't believe Arclight's light attack whatever would affect Cloak in any way shape or form. Cloak would just absorb that light into the darkforce dimension. My vote is for The Fury.

[Shyft]

For me i think Tempo was slightly over-used. Also Storm's use of a Lightning Bolt was intelligent - shes been shown as being incredibly accurate with them before, a lightning bolt would get through Tempo's powers, and could also damage other members of her team.

Also, as Tempo is speeding up her own team, not slowing down the opposition, many of Fury's tactics work fine. And why would Avalanche be disturbed by ground tremors when thats exactly what he does?

Overall, Fury's tactic was more cohesive and didnt rely on one character, so i gave it to him.

[mattbib]

Final vote count is 36:17.

Congratulations, Nyssane! You advance to Game 9, in which you'll face the winner of Game 2 next Monday, January 21.

The Fury, great job. You drop to the lower bracket where you'll face the loser of Game 2, also next Monday. I'm guessing we'll have a pretty intense lower bracket this year.

[Fatguy]

Congrats Nyss!

[The Fury]

Final vote count is 36:17.

The Fury, great job. You drop to the lower bracket where you'll face the loser of Game 2, also next Monday. I'm guessing we'll have a pretty intense lower bracket this year.
I lost 2 votes? :confused: jarrod sure...who else? If private, PM me.

[mattbib]

I lost 2 votes? :confused: jarrod sure...who else? If private, PM me.

Someone had less than 50 posts.

[The Fury]

Someone had less than 50 posts.
Oh, okay.

Shame. Did you highlight this fact in the opening post? People might not have realised.

[mattbib]

Shame. Did you highlight this fact in the opening post? People might not have realised.The point was reiterated in the opening posts of each of yesterday's matches.

[jarrod]

That's fine, and I appreciate your honesty with your votes and postings, but if you want to talk about voting for friends, why, Jarrod voted for the Fury without the strategies even being up.
Due to lineup alone, which I mentioned before. This is probably the 2nd Mutant Legaue thread I've ever even clicked on and I'm pretty sure the first I voted in... so I wasn't exactly up to date on the process of it all.

Sorry for the confusion though. ;)