Cable #1 images SPOILERS. SPOILERS. SPOILERS. ok?

[Pach!]

I MEANT MESSIAH COMPLEX SPOILER













I think it's from Previews or something.

From this website that takes so very long to open:

http://forum.superpouvoir.com/showpost.php?p=207597&postcount=21

So I tried to copy it here don't know if it worked.

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u60/losequismen/Cable-1-preview.jpg

EDIT: They're super small here but on that page much bigger.

[frog]

The site wouldn't open at all for me.

The art almost looks like it's from a videogame for some reason.

[xmanson]

So cable has the baby in some crazy future or crazy place with people carrying guns.

[Greg Anderson]

So cable has the baby in some crazy future or crazy place with people carrying guns.

And if it's true that Bishop is after them with big crazy guns, I'm sold! :D :cool:

[frog]

But where is the baby?

[Sentinel K]

But where is the baby?

In his ruck-suck?

[Pach!]

But where is the baby?
It's actually right there. Cable is changing it.

[Sentinel K]

It's actually right there. Cable is changing it.

Haha.

Thats awesome.

[Beast]

It's actually right there. Cable is changing it.
See what a good dad he is. Cyclops could learn something from his own son. *Sagenods*

[Pach!]

Do we know if the baby is a boy or a girl?

Cuz it's weird calling it an "it"

[Mikl C]

Girl. called Jean. tee hee.

[Greg Anderson]

Do we know if the baby is a boy or a girl?

Cuz it's weird calling it an "it"

It's a girl.

[Greg Anderson]

Girl. called Jean. tee hee.

Then her whole point is to die. Which Bishop shall provide. :cool:

[Diablito]

I LOVES THE ART!!! X-Force and Cable's art are probably the main thing causing me to buy them.

[Pro]

Site gives trouble but from the small images it almost looks like he uses 3d models as background

[frog]

Site gives trouble but from the small images it almost looks like he uses 3d models as background

I guess that's why it has the game feel to me.

[Liberty Belle Fan]

Cable has always been my favorite Mutant!

I dig the blow up the bad guys then change the diaper scene. Cable gets to play hero and babysitter all at the same time.

Can't wait for the monthly, let's hope if continues for years to come.

[Pach!]

Bigger?
http://www.superpouvoir.com/Team/Marv/Cable-1-preview.JPG

[Bic]

I do wish that the art didn't look like a Half Life mod that was designed to look like the movie Escape from New York. The sight of Cable fighting and then caring for the baby, however, made for an intriguing mix. Having Cable in the Lone Wolf and Cub duel role of warrior and guardian suits his personality and could potentially lead to some interesting stories.

[Shyft]

I do wish that the art didn't look like a Half Life mod that was designed to look like the movie Escape from New York. The sight of Cable fighting and then caring for the baby, however, made for an intriguing mix. Having Cable in the Lone Wolf and Cub duel role of warrior and guardian suits his personality and could potentially lead to some interesting stories.

see im completely the opposite, i think that art is awesome.

[kate-pryde]

I hope Cable doesn't stay in whatever future this is for very long. Three pages is long enough.

We had all that hype that Cable would at last be relevant to the other books, but what it seems like to me is that he's going to take the baby and do his own thing, maybe with Bishop chasing him. That's fine for an arc, but I want Cable back in mainstream continuity as soon as possible interacting with everyone else.

It seems like Messiah Complex ends, then Cable leaves to some future and there's no interaction with him or any other character. What about Scott apologizing for sending X-Force after him, or Cable apologizing for not contacting the X-Men? I'm going to be so pissed if we don't get any of that.

Cable's solo series was one of my favorite X-books of all times, and I hope this series lives up to this. But so far, this looks like it's going to suck.

[Affinity]

Site gives trouble but from the small images it almost looks like he uses 3d models as background
Yeah; it's totally ugly.

Didn't Ariel Olivetti do some issues of PAD's X-Factor? The one where Siryn finds out about Banshee's death?

His style varies so much, it's cool.

[Sentinel K]

Yeah; it's totally ugly.

Didn't Ariel Olivetti do some issues of PAD's X-Factor? The one where Siryn finds out about Banshee's death?

His style varies so much, it's cool.

I love Olivetti's work.

He did Punisher War Journal.

[xmanson]

I'm guessing Cable runs away with the baby or something, otherwise leaving akid so young with someone like him? BAD IDEA. Well, maybe the other option was Emma Frost, who would put vodka in his bottle.

[Euks]

But where is the baby?

The updated version of the cover image has Cable with the X-baby pouch from the Uncanny X-men design of Cable. So I assume it's probably under that big cloak he's wearing. I really wish they stuck with the X-men design of Cable, which is infinitely better...

[Greg Anderson]

The updated version of the cover image has Cable with the X-baby pouch from the Uncanny X-men design of Cable. So I assume it's probably under that big cloak he's wearing. I really wish they stuck with the X-men design of Cable, which is infinitely better...

The Bachalo design? Yeah, I wish they kept that myself. Maybe with the Sabretooth jacket also.

[Euks]

The Bachalo design? Yeah, I wish they kept that myself. Maybe with the Sabretooth jacket also.

Yeah, it's a much better design, and doesn't have a big X that makes it really convenient to aim at the future of all of mutantkind. Did Bachalo ever say the jacket was really supposed to be Sabretooth's, or did it just look at lot like Sabretooth's?

[RoguefanAM]

I <3 the art! Too bad it's wasted on such a bland (IMO) character like Cable.

Oh well, I still might pick this book up, if only to keep up with what's happening with the baby.

[Greg Anderson]

Yeah, it's a much better design, and doesn't have a big X that makes it really convenient to aim at the future of all of mutantkind. Did Bachalo ever say the jacket was really supposed to be Sabretooth's, or did it just look at lot like Sabretooth's?

I don't think he ever said it was, but it did look a lot like Sabretooth's jacket that he was rocking for the entire run.

[Slyfer]

I am in love, that art looks sweeeeeeeeeeet and Cable gets back the baby, so therefore Messiah Complex endin is spoiled or is it

[Imperfect]

I hope Cable doesn't stay in whatever future this is for very long. Three pages is long enough.

We had all that hype that Cable would at last be relevant to the other books, but what it seems like to me is that he's going to take the baby and do his own thing, maybe with Bishop chasing him. That's fine for an arc, but I want Cable back in mainstream continuity as soon as possible interacting with everyone else.

It seems like Messiah Complex ends, then Cable leaves to some future and there's no interaction with him or any other character. What about Scott apologizing for sending X-Force after him, or Cable apologizing for not contacting the X-Men? I'm going to be so pissed if we don't get any of that.

Cable's solo series was one of my favorite X-books of all times, and I hope this series lives up to this. But so far, this looks like it's going to suck.

I feel differently. I feel like he'll work best in this type of environment. He's so over the top, something like this fits.

I'm still deciding on whether or not I'll pick it up. The art's nice, but when the main character is a husky, white haired old guy, it doesn't make a difference.

[Nubian]

I loved Olivetti's art on X-MAN, so he is a perfect choice for the new CABLE series.

Can't wait to see some of Cable's old supporting cast interact with Papa Dayspring ChangeDiaper'son.

[GeneralSpecific]

It does look quite extremely beautiful.
But.
I think I agree on Imperfect's 'husky, white haired old guy' comment. I do want to see what happens to the baby though...

[frog]

I loved Olivetti's art on X-MAN, so he is a perfect choice for the new CABLE series.

Can't wait to see some of Cable's old supporting cast interact with Papa Dayspring ChangeDiaper'son.

I completely missed the baby in the little images. That's funny.

I'm still wanting to see Multiple Man: 3000 Men and a Baby. Hopefully Monet or Siryn will deliver (pun fully intended)!

[Muggs]

I hope Cable doesn't stay in whatever future this is for very long. Three pages is long enough.

We had all that hype that Cable would at last be relevant to the other books, but what it seems like to me is that he's going to take the baby and do his own thing, maybe with Bishop chasing him. That's fine for an arc, but I want Cable back in mainstream continuity as soon as possible interacting with everyone else.

It seems like Messiah Complex ends, then Cable leaves to some future and there's no interaction with him or any other character. What about Scott apologizing for sending X-Force after him, or Cable apologizing for not contacting the X-Men? I'm going to be so pissed if we don't get any of that.

Cable's solo series was one of my favorite X-books of all times, and I hope this series lives up to this. But so far, this looks like it's going to suck.

Drama thrives on conflict. It'll make for better stories if Cyclops and Cable are at odds, or at least not in contact for a few years. Then there's a potential big dramatic payoff some point in the future when they eventually meet.

[Fatguy]

I like Cable, I like everything I've heard from the writer, I have no real issue with him time travelling...

It seems I'm the only one who's sole reservations come from Olivetti's art. I'm getting it, but his art was a huge turn off for me in Punisher. I'm hoping I'll feel different this time around.

I guess I just dont like my characters inflated ;)

[Dizzy D]

I completely missed the baby in the little images. That's funny.

I'm still wanting to see Multiple Man: 3000 Men and a Baby. Hopefully Monet or Siryn will deliver (pun fully intended)!

Even better if they both deliver.

[frog]

Even better if they both deliver.

Now that would really be something!

[Brian M.]

I hope Cable doesn't stay in whatever future this is for very long. Three pages is long enough.

If he's being chased by Bishop it'll make for a good story.

We had all that hype that Cable would at last be relevant to the other books, but what it seems like to me is that he's going to take the baby and do his own thing, maybe with Bishop chasing him. That's fine for an arc, but I want Cable back in mainstream continuity as soon as possible interacting with everyone else.

Guest starring in Deadpool's book would be nice.

It seems like Messiah Complex ends, then Cable leaves to some future and there's no interaction with him or any other character. What about Scott apologizing for sending X-Force after him, or Cable apologizing for not contacting the X-Men? I'm going to be so pissed if we don't get any of that.

Why should Scott apologize? The way all that info played out did point to Cable. Cable would understand that Scott made the decision he made based on the info he had. Apologizing would just make Scott look pathetic and Cable seem like his feelings had been hurt. Makes both characters look like pansies.

[Nubian]

I always see fans saying stuff like "[CREATOR/CHARACTER I DON'T LIKE] should apologize to [FAVORITE CHARACTER] for [STUFF I DON'T AGREE WITH].

I never got that.

[kate-pryde]

Why should Scott apologize? The way all that info played out did point to Cable. Cable would understand that Scott made the decision he made based on the info he had. Apologizing would just make Scott look pathetic and Cable seem like his feelings had been hurt. Makes both characters look like pansies.

Scott jumping to conclusions led to Cable losing the baby. Both of them made mistakes. It doesn't make them look like pansies, it makes them look like they're acknowledging what happened and at least explaining their reasoning.

With just two issues of Messiah Complex left, it's only going to be a big fight with no character interaction. It's like the Shi'ar arc all over again. It ends, Cable goes to the future with the kid, Bishop goes after him, Xavier goes off on his own, and Scott & Emma go fight hippies. There's no possible way that's a satisfying conclusion to Messiah Complex.

[Pach!]

Scott jumping to conclusions led to Cable losing the baby. Both of them made mistakes. It doesn't make them look like pansies, it makes them look like they're acknowledging what happened and at least explaining their reasoning.

With just two issues of Messiah Complex left, it's only going to be a big fight with no character interaction. It's like the Shi'ar arc all over again. It ends, Cable goes to the future with the kid, Bishop goes after him, Xavier goes off on his own, and Scott & Emma go fight hippies. There's no possible way that's a satisfying conclusion to Messiah Complex.

And much like Cable's death, there you go once again jumping way ahead of yourself and just assuming what you don't know.

[Nubian]

Doubleposttriplepostposttacular!!!

[Nubian]

With just two issues of Messiah Complex left, it's only going to be a big fight with no character interaction. It's like the Shi'ar arc all over again. It ends, Cable goes to the future with the kid, Bishop goes after him, Xavier goes off on his own, and Scott & Emma go fight hippies. There's no possible way that's a satisfying conclusion to Messiah Complex.

Well, there's still lots of Rogue-resurrecting and teenage mutant killing to go through!

And there is never anything wrong with fighting hippies. In fact, Marvel should have a FIGHT HIPPIES month. Every Marvel Universe character fights a hippie for a month.

It will save the industry.

[Brian M.]

Scott jumping to conclusions led to Cable losing the baby. Both of them made mistakes. It doesn't make them look like pansies, it makes them look like they're acknowledging what happened and at least explaining their reasoning.

With just two issues of Messiah Complex left, it's only going to be a big fight with no character interaction. It's like the Shi'ar arc all over again. It ends, Cable goes to the future with the kid, Bishop goes after him, Xavier goes off on his own, and Scott & Emma go fight hippies. There's no possible way that's a satisfying conclusion to Messiah Complex.

I was pretty sure Cable lost the baby b/c Bishop is a traitor? Pretty sure X-Force saved Cable.

But hey, least we can agree it'll be fun when Kitty floats off in space.

[rwsmith]

I like the art, and the writer is supposed to be good. I'll give it a shot, but I have to agree with kate-pryde on the concept. I'm just not crazy about Cable and the baby jumping through time Quantum Leap style with Bishop in hot pursuit. Eventually I'm sure he'll end up back in the present, though.

For now, though, like I said, I'll give it a chance, but I'm not nearly as psyched for this book as I would be if it took place in the here and now.

[Carencey]

I'm not impressed with the art, but I think it's the pastal coloring that's the problem. It does look very video game like, and that sort of suits Cable, but it seems rather stiff or something. It's not very dynamic.

Is it going to be a Quantum Leap style, jumping through time kind of book? That's disappointing.

This is the best Cable has been in a long while with his role in Messiah Complex and in X-Men. I'll give it a chance, but I agree with rwsmith that if it took place in the here and now, I'd be more excited about it.

[jarrod]

But hey, least we can agree it'll be fun when Kitty floats off in space.
Just like Jean then! Neat!

Really though, I'm more curious as to which of her lesbonic deus ex bffs will win out in the fight to bring her back two years from now? I think Yana and Ray should mudwrestle for it.

[Brent1974]

The pages look sweet. I cannot wait :)

[XLoganX]

The art is horrible. Makes me not want to buy it.

[Yoshi]

The art is horrible. Makes me not want to buy it.

They arent that bad, I actually kind of like them. For me it might take some getting used to, like I used to hate Bachalo, but now I love his art!

[Bulky Brent]

Whoa! such awesome and detailed art Epting move over. I wonder where Cable is in these pics.

[ClanAskani]

It's kind of a bummer that Cable's stuck in some other time. At least he has the baby. I think he'll be back soon enough.

Hopefully he can do something useful with his time traveling, like go back for Layla. Or go find an alternate timeline where Jean is alive and give the baby to her to raise. :)

The art looks ok, but it looks like kind of decompressed.

[Bigmike]

I really like the concept of Cable, the former child-savior-of-all-mutant-kind is now the one stuck raising the next one.

So I'll give it a shot, I'm more worried about how they'll portray Bishop in this book than if another writer writes a bland Cable.

[justin gilchrist]

The art isn't terrible, but it's too early to tell.

I started to like Cable when he was in Carey's X-Men. It's a shame he's leaving for parts unknown.

I doubt Bishop chasing Cable through time lasting more than a year either. That's going to get old fast, and who needs another Exiles?

Any bets on how long it takes for the baby to be sent to some alternate future and come back as a teenager?

[rwsmith]

Yeah, if Axel Alonso's goal was to make Cable a popular character again, then I'd say he succeeded in Messiah Complex. And now he's going to crap the bed by shipping him off into the timestream in his solo series.

I expect this book to start off with decent enough sales, and then they will likely fall pretty steeply. The whole "stranded in another time period" thing has been done before (in Bishop's solo series), as has the "jumping through time" thing (see Exiles). Neither concept has yielded strong sales, and I don't expect this to be any different.

[Samuraixsithlord]

Glad Mystique didn't get the kid. Maybe Raven was working with Cable all the time

[kate-pryde]

Yeah, if Axel Alonso's goal was to make Cable a popular character again, then I'd say he succeeded in Messiah Complex. And now he's going to crap the bed by shipping him off into the timestream in his solo series.


The thing is that Cable has become more popular from appearing in Adjectiveless, which I don't think was part of Alonso's plan or even taken into consideration, since Alonso started talking about a new Cable solo series in the fall of 2006, when Cable had just started appearing in Adjectiveless.

So while Alonso was planning something completely new for Cable, fans started liking the way Mike Carey was writing him, and I don't think that was expected or was intended as anything other than a way to get him from where he was to where he is in Messiah Complex.



I expect this book to start off with decent enough sales, and then they will likely fall pretty steeply. The whole "stranded in another time period" thing has been done before (in Bishop's solo series), as has the "jumping through time" thing (see Exiles). Neither concept has yielded strong sales, and I don't expect this to be any different.

I totally agree.

Its not too late for the series to turnaround. The time traveling could be only for an arc. At least Cable's renewed popularity now will prevent any sales drops from turning into writers and editors blaming it on Cable being a non-viable, convoluted character like what happened in the past, so hopefully he won't be limboed or rebooted, just put back into the current time and mainstream continuity.

[Crimson]

Oh! If it is the future, I wonder if Layla Miller appears.

[twilight]

I'm not normally a fan of Cable but the whole Lonewolf and Cub thing could make for some interesting stories.

-Twi

[Bat-Reader]

Pages look cool and kind of reminds me The Children Of Men movie. I like the diaper change in the war zone. :)

[Optic Rage!]

But so far, this looks like it's going to suck.

Dont you think your judging it a tad to prematurely?

I mean, we have had like, what, 4 wordless pages and your already saying it sucks?

At least read the thing before you pass your judgement.

As far myself, i like the art...however it is a tad....static.

Scott jumping to conclusions led to Cable losing the baby.

Er, sorry what book are you reading?

Cable lost the baby because of Bishop and Scott jumping to conclusions in fact saved the baby from being choped up by the Reavers.

Its annoying when people twist the story to suit their own opinions.

[Teh m0nk3y]

Scott jumping to conclusions led to Cable losing the baby. Both of them made mistakes.

1)The Sentinels attack the mansion.

2)Cyclops sends out X-Force to track down Cable and the baby.

3)Cable and the baby get cornered by Lady Deathstrike and the Reavers.

4)X-Force manages to track down Cable just in time to save him and the baby from Killer Cyborg Bigots

5)X-Force try to reason with Cable, but he ignores them and hijacks their airplane.

6)Cable manages to get to Forge only to get shot by Bishop.

7)The Marauders rescue the baby from Bishop.

Where is Cyclops to blame in this list of events?
That he supposedly sent a "death squad" to hunt Cable?
That said "death squad" actually saved Cable's ass along with the baby?

[kate-pryde]

Scott shouldn't have sent Wolverine and the Fang Gang. He should have used the same reasoning he did in Burnt Offerings and sent a team of those that Cable would have trusted - lead by Storm.

There was no evidence that Cable was the one who unleashed the Sentinels on the mansion. Most of Rogue's team could have had assess to the nanos.

Scott needed to use his head and figure out why Cable was doing what he was doing.

Let's see, you need to select a team to go after Cable. You select the guy who murdered his son, instead of Storm, who Cable once dated. Then you wonder why he ran??


I mean, we have had like, what, 4 wordless pages and your already saying it sucks?


It 100%, completely, totally sucks if Cable is some alternate reality or future and not in the 616 interacting with the other characters.

[Brian M.]

Just becuase you keep saying Cyclops had no reason to suspect Cable doesn't mean it's true. Same principal goes with the Kitty Pryde stuff.

[Teh m0nk3y]

Scott shouldn't have sent Wolverine and the Fang Gang. He should have used the same reasoning he did in Burnt Offerings and sent a team of those that Cable would have trusted - lead by Storm.

There was no evidence that Cable was the one who unleashed the Sentinels on the mansion. Most of Rogue's team could have had assess to the nanos.

Scott needed to use his head and figure out why Cable was doing what he was doing.

Let's see, you need to select a team to go after Cable. You select the guy who murdered his son, instead of Storm, who Cable once dated. Then you wonder why he ran??



James Proudstar.

Warpath tried to reason with the guy. A guy who knew him since the transition of New Mutants to X-Force.

Wolverine... Logan and Nate patched things up. Way Back In The Day.
Are they bestest friends forever? No.

[rwsmith]

Let's see, you need to select a team to go after Cable. You select the guy who murdered his son, instead of Storm, who Cable once dated. Then you wonder why he ran??

First of all, I don't think Cable every actually dated Storm. I seem to remember them flirting for awhile, but they never dated or hooked up that I recall.

Secondly, Wolverine killed Cable's son, not vice versa. If anyone has an axe to grind in this situation, it's Cable with Logan and not vice versa. But these two buried that hatchet long ago.

Finally, Cyclops never told Wolverine to kill Cable, just to retrieve the baby. And Wolverine never instructed X-Force to kill him either. Scott chose the team that he thought could find Nathan the fastest based upon their unique skills as trackers. His primary objective was to get that baby, and he knows how smart and slippery his son can be. Assuming Cable had his own agenda (which he obviously did), had Cyclops sent Storm and some others intead of initiating X-Force, then it's likely that Cable would've suckered them into a trap and gotten away. Scott needed a team that was somewhat ruthless to bring that baby back at all costs, and he didn't want people who would hesitate (which does cause me to question the inclusion of Warpath and Caliban, but I suppose he needed their abilities and was counting on Logan to keep them focused on the mission).

All in all I think it was a smart decision.

It 100%, completely, totally sucks if Cable is some alternate reality or future and not in the 616 interacting with the other characters.

I'm inclined to agree, as I've really been enjoying Nate as of late. But if this is the price of removing messy, incestuous and convoluted time-traveling B.S. from the X-books for awhile, then it's worth it IMO. I can deal with the loss. Hopefully Rachel will show up in the series and they can all stay in the future together.

[jarrod]

Rachel backing up Cable wouldn't be bad at all... in fact, I'd really like to see her siding with Nate over Scott (who I imagine she'll be pretty pissed at after finding out he sicced X-Force on her baby brother).

Man, if only we could get Millar/JRJR on Cable. ;)

[rwsmith]

Millar/JRJR on Cable would be $$$, but Millar and Steve McNiven would be $$$,$$$.

[Brian M.]

Millar/JRJR on Cable would be $$$, but Millar and Steve McNiven would be $$$,$$$.

Millar and McNiven on anything X would be fan-fucking-tastic.

[jarrod]

Millar/JRJR on Cable would be $$$, but Millar and Steve McNiven would be $$$,$$$.
I'd take either honestly. I'm hyped about the post MX-books, but Millar taking over the 3 core titles (with say Hitch, McNiven and JRJR on art) would've been really exciting imo.

[Optic Rage!]

Scott shouldn't have sent Wolverine and the Fang Gang. He should have used the same reasoning he did in Burnt Offerings and sent a team of those that Cable would have trusted - lead by Storm.

So wait, They are trying to track Cable and your saying thet they shoulden't have sent the people who would in fact be best at tracking Cable?

But instead he should of sent Storm because he asked her out for a dinner years ago?

How would she find him for starters?

Cable is much closer to James then he is to Storm and he still ran from him...causing Cal's death in the process.

It could of been anyone on that team and he would of still ran. He had his own agenda afterall....and one that does not match any of the X-Men.

There was no evidence that Cable was the one who unleashed the Sentinels on the mansion. Most of Rogue's team could have had assess to the nanos.

Scott needed to use his head and figure out why Cable was doing what he was doing.

Well its a good thing that Scott sent X-Force after him aint it? He would be dead otherwise along with the baby.

Oh and Scott didnt send X-Force after Cable because of the sentinels, he sent them because he had the baby.

End of the day, even if the sentinals never attacked, X-Force would of still gone after Cable.

Let's see, you need to select a team to go after Cable. You select the guy who murdered his son, instead of Storm, who Cable once dated. Then you wonder why he ran??

You make it sound as if he killed him in cold blood. Its his own fault Logan killed him. Logan should not be looked down upon for killing him...he asked for it.

Your logic is really......

[jarrod]

If Scott really had the best intentions in terms of Nate's well being, he'd have sent Sam, James, Cal and Theresa. Not Mr. Stabby, Mr. Stabby's clone with a vage and the girl who considers him the one who broke up her first team. :/

[Optic Rage!]

If Scott really had the best intentions in terms of Nate's well being, he'd have sent Sam, James, Cal and Theresa. Not Mr. Stabby, Mr. Stabby's clone with a vage and the girl who considers him the one who broke up her first team. :/

So your saying that Scott should of put Cable before the baby?

That would be a poor move imo.

They needed to track cable, and everyone on that team was a tracker....Cyclops didnt send them because they all had stabby things.

[jarrod]

So your saying that Scott should of put Cable before the baby?

That would be a poor move imo.

They needed to track cable, and everyone on that team was a tracker....Cyclops didnt send them because they all had stabby things.
Doesn't have to be an either/or situation... but putting Logan in charge (rather than Sam, Ororo or Theresa) pretty much indicates Scott's mindset at the time imo.

[Christopher O]

The team didn't need all of those trackers. They even mention that Caliban was the one to find Cable. I think X-Force is a fun concept, but the decision to send them all doesn't exactly reflect well on Scott.

[Pach!]

The team didn't need all of those trackers. They even mention that Caliban was the one to find Cable. I think X-Force is a fun concept, but the decision to send them all doesn't exactly reflect well on Scott.

But that was pure luck though. Deathstrike cut Cable's thingie.

I guess they didn't really need that many trackers but t would have taken so much longer for Logan to cover all the hospital by himself.

I think the team would have benefited by a TP to probe the police people but still I thought it was a pretty good idea.

[Optic Rage!]

The team didn't need all of those trackers. They even mention that Caliban was the one to find Cable. I think X-Force is a fun concept, but the decision to send them all doesn't exactly reflect well on Scott.

Im guessing that Scott thought that more people will cover ground much faster resulting in them being able to get to the baby faster.

I have to agree that i would not put Wolverine in charge..maybe sending Storm or Emma would of been a smarter move.

Perhaps Scott has to much faith in Logan?

Should be fun to see how that works out in X-Force.

[streator]

looks alright. i wonder if cable is taking the baby somewhere/to someone or if he's hiding it. i'm going with a little of both. i'm interested to see where/when he is in these images.

[kate-pryde]

Doesn't have to be an either/or situation... but putting Logan in charge (rather than Sam, Ororo or Theresa) pretty much indicates Scott's mindset at the time imo.

Exactly. It's fine for Scott to defer to Logan if wetwork is truly needed. If Cable really had gone totally unhinged and needed to be taken out, that would have been warranted. But there wasn't enough evidence that Cable needed to be taken out. Scott was overreacting and not using his best judgement.

Scott never seemed to wonder why Nate was doing what he was doing. What seems to have been forgotten is everything that happened in Blinded by the Light.

Cable not only had the baby, but he had the information they needed. Whether he was working against them or not, they needed to get that information out of him about why the Mauraders wanted him dead and why everyone was after this baby.

Wolverine and X-Force isn't the right team for that mission. Instead it should have been Ororo, Sam, Jimmy, Caliban, and Logan only in case things got messy. Those that Cable trusted. If Cable wouldn't hand the baby over, then maybe Logan needed to go SNIKT, but it was almost guaranteed with X-Force charging at him that he was going to run.

The advantage Scott should have is knowing Cable, and the ability to out think him. He need to employ a Leviathan like plan, not send out the attack dogs. It too bad, since I did want to see "To Me, My X-Men" Scott in Messiah Complex.

[claimtosubclaim]

Wolverine and X-Force isn't the right team for that mission. Instead it should have been Ororo, Sam, Jimmy, Caliban, and Logan only in case things got messy. Those that Cable trusted. If Cable wouldn't hand the baby over, then maybe Logan needed to go SNIKT, but it was almost guaranteed with X-Force charging at him that he was going to run.

The advantage Scott should have is knowing Cable, and the ability to out think him. He need to employ a Leviathan like plan, not send out the attack dogs. It too bad, since I did want to see "To Me, My X-Men" Scott in Messiah Complex.

Agreed. He went with a gut decision rather than a strategic one, which, when dealing with missing pieces of information and your son whose intentions have always been noble, is rather unwise.

[lib519]

Anyone remember that series in the early 90s by Fabian N? Nomad was carrying a baby named Bucky.

[rwsmith]

The advantage Scott should have is knowing Cable, and the ability to out think him. He need to employ a Leviathan like plan, not send out the attack dogs. It too bad, since I did want to see "To Me, My X-Men" Scott in Messiah Complex.

I think Scott was trying to out-think Nathan. Cable is smarter than Cyclops. That's been established. So Scott did something that Nate would never have seen coming. He sent a pack of feral trackers after him to bring that baby back by any means necessary.

Personally, I think it worked very well in this story. Sorry he didn't do what you think he should've done in the situation, but maybe it's time to move on. Either that, or perhaps you should try to write for Marvel and then you can make Scott do whatever you want.

[Daithi]

I think Scott was trying to out-think Nathan. Cable is smarter than Cyclops. That's been established. So Scott did something that Nate would never have seen coming. He sent a pack of feral trackers after him to bring that baby back by any means necessary.

Cable would never think that Scott would send trackers after him? I'd give Cable a bit more credit.

[kate-pryde]

I think Scott was trying to out-think Nathan. Cable is smarter than Cyclops. That's been established. So Scott did something that Nate would never have seen coming. He sent a pack of feral trackers after him to bring that baby back by any means necessary.

I'm not sure how X-Force could be trying to outsmart Cable, since it's not even really the team you'd assemble if you wanted to kill Cable. There isn't enough firepower.

But I think the biggest problem is that the editors came up with the cool new idea of X-Force and whatever is going to happen Cable, but fitting it into the Messiah Complex story didn’t exactly work.

And of course, X-Force has to fail for Cable to run off to the future, so Scott has to mess up.

Even the reasoning for Cable not contacting the X-Men makes no sense. It doesn’t even seem like Cable knew there was a traitor. Did he assume there were more Maurders that had infiltrated the X-Men?

A plausible explanation would be if Cable assumed that there was a traitor, but didn’t know it was Bishop and assumed the traitor was Emma. The only one he could trust would be Xavier, since he would be able to keep his thoughts hidden from her. But he wouldn’t be able to trust anyone else, especially Scott, or even contact someone like Deadpool or Irene Merryweather. But I doubt that would be used, since characters distrusting Emma is getting really old. Although Nate has never expressed his opinion on Scott dating Emma, it’s likely he wouldn’t have been against it like Rachel was.

But my guess is that it won’t be explained. Cable doesn’t trust the X-Men or Deadpool because there needs to be a split so Cable can go off and do his own thing completely cut-off from everyone else.

[jarrod]

If Scott wanted to outsmart Cable, he should've let Hank take over. ;)


Or Kitty.... :(

[Daithi]

If Scott wanted to outsmart Cable, he should've let Hank take over. ;)


Or Kitty.... :(

Or Pixie! Now she'd come up with something that Cable would never think off!

[jarrod]

Or Pixie! Now she'd come up with something that Cable would never think off!
I smell buddie book!

[Teh m0nk3y]

The Further Adventures of Cable and Pixie?

[Daithi]

The Further Adventures of Cable and Pixie?

Pixie and Deadpool ;)

[hiddenblade]

Pixie and Deadpool ;)
Sound scary
death is scary