View Full Version : What Post Messiah CompleX Book Are You Most Excited About?
Hi-Fi
01-12-2008, 09:44 AM
I'm torn between X-Men Legacy, X-Factor and Young X-Men. Oh, and Ellis' Astonishing X-Men as well.
Others not included for lack of space: X-Men First Class, Wolverine Origins and Excalibur.
Brian M.
01-12-2008, 09:45 AM
X-Force and Ellis Astonishing both sound amazing.
drwho
01-12-2008, 09:47 AM
To be honest I'm not too excited about any of them. I need more details on them before i decide.
The Sword Is Drawn
01-12-2008, 09:49 AM
Excalibur. But I'll have to wait a month or two more for that.
Novaya Havoc
01-12-2008, 09:53 AM
I'm most excited about whichever book Dazzler is going to be in!
So I'll guesstimate Uncanny.
Hi-Fi
01-12-2008, 09:53 AM
I'm most excited about whichever book Dazzler is going to be in!
But I thought you wouldn't be reading New Exiles? :confused:
Porcelain
01-12-2008, 09:56 AM
At this moment in time X-Force.
Still waiting to see where Ellis' Astonishing & the Legacy project will be going, X-Factor is a long running favourite, plus there's even a little spark inside the hopes Excailbur will turn out well.
Novaya Havoc
01-12-2008, 09:56 AM
But I thought you wouldn't be reading New Exiles? :confused:
You're evil. I hope that, post-MC, Carey writes Rogue getting killed by Lila Cheney, and then they're both eaten by Predator X! :mad:
twincast
01-12-2008, 09:56 AM
I'm in a little bit of a financial dilemma, so it's gonna take me some time to catch up, but X-Force always was and always will be a TPB book for me. AXM I will buy the hardcovers of someday.
However, despite knowing essentially nothing about Young X-Men, I can't help but feel excited about it. Unless Marvel manages to screw up, I'll add it to my pull list. Considering I also bought the Search for Magik and Children of X-Men arcs of New X-Men, that basically means my buxing habits remain unchanged when it comes to the X-books.
Brent1974
01-12-2008, 10:02 AM
X-Force.
I love the creative team, as well as the cast :)
It will rock :)
pryde15
01-12-2008, 10:02 AM
Young X-Men and Astonishing X-Men, I will probably pick up all of them to see how they are, but those are the 2 I am really excited for.
ToxicTeen
01-12-2008, 10:04 AM
X-Force - I'm very interested in this title.
Young X-Men - As long as it picks up after New X-Men, I know I'll be picking this title up.
X-Men:Legacy - Since it's written by Mike Carey, I'll be picking it up.
X-factor remains my favorite book though i was really hoping for a filled up Mutant Town instead of one hemoraging its population ..
Might give X-force a try just because it's different enough to give a go and the art looks great. And Cornell's Excalibur could turn out to be good. And I suppose Cable could proof to be the book that saves the mutant race ..
So not sure, i'm still remaining very sceptical about Marvel as a whole under Quesada. Really don't like his editorial interference.
Liberty Belle Fan
01-12-2008, 10:05 AM
Cable and X-Force, although I will be reading all of them!
Brian M.
01-12-2008, 10:24 AM
Damnit Hi-Fi...that poll is too hard...making me choose one.
Uncanny: The march to #500 should be wonderful and I can't freaking wait to see 4 issues written by Brubaker and drawn by Choi.
X-Force: Cyclops and his death squad...amazing.
Astonishing: Well...it'll be great. I got this gut feeling that the first issue will really make people happy.
First Class: How can you not love this book? You have no soul if you don't.
Cable: Gotta love the child of Scott Summers.
I agree that it's too hard just to pick one, though I ended up choosing Legacy. Astonishing is following closely, but I'm scared that it's going to stay on the excruciatingly slow schedule. X-Force, Young X-Men, X-Factor and Uncanny are all books I'm also looking forward to as well.
Beast
01-12-2008, 10:45 AM
I wouldn't considering some of those 'Post MC books'. New Exiles, Wolverine: First Class, especially. But of the books actually directly coming out of Messiah Complex..., I'd have to say... X-Men: Legacy. Because it's the one book we know the least about at the moment. And Carey always rocks.
just another user
01-12-2008, 11:01 AM
Should have been a multiple choice poll!
I'm picking X Factor cos I know it'll be good, but I'm interested in Young X Men and Legacy. But I'd like to find out a little bit more about them first.
X Force also looks like one I'll pick up.
Brett P
01-12-2008, 11:02 AM
NONE of them.
Oh, go on then...X-Factor.
Messiah Complex poops all over everything else.
mutantgene
01-12-2008, 11:05 AM
NONE of them.
Oh, go on then...X-Factor.
Messiah Complex poops all over everything else.
I feel your pain :)
before messiah i didnt read xfactor but now that and astonishing im quite looking forward to. and the art in xforce look amazing just hope it has story to match.
need info on young xmen before i get excited
Mitteloss
01-12-2008, 11:40 AM
X-Men Legacy.
I can't take Young X-Men into consideration because I don't know exactly what it is yet.
Honestly, the post Messiah Complex world so far seems dull and underwhelming, everything seemingly has the same feel. Doom and gloom and half of characters in limbo kinda feel.
That's not to say I probably won't enjoy it. Just not as excited as I was before. X-Force looks good. X-Factor sounds good. Uncanny... it will have nice art. But, I'll wait and see.
rwsmith
01-12-2008, 12:59 PM
X-Force and Ellis Astonishing both sound amazing.
God, we have such similar taste that it's scary. Which is kind of odd considering you're a Cyclops guy and I'm a Wolverine guy...:confused:
Teh m0nk3y
01-12-2008, 01:04 PM
X-Force: The main attraction would for me be how Kyle and Yost going to write Rahne and Laura. That and James being the Wolverine to Logan's Cyclops.
X-Factor: The main book that I've followed. The last arc before MC had a weak ending, but I have faith that things will pick up again.
Red Lotus
01-12-2008, 01:05 PM
For me its X-Men Legacy. If Carey isn't going to do a Gambit solo then him having Gambit in this books is good enough for me. After that its X-Force. The whole idea of this team makes me really want to get this book.
Omega Alpha
01-12-2008, 01:08 PM
Astonishing X-men, because St. Warren can do no wrong. But most look pretty interesting to me.
samhalliwell
01-12-2008, 01:15 PM
I'll probably read most of them, but my vote went to Young X-Men (out of a gut feeling and hoping). I'm also looking forward to X-Force, X-Factor, First Class (which has always been great), Wolverine, Cable and Legacy. I'll try Bru's Uncanny only because of the 500th issue; his writing in the book has been boring, (mostly) inconsequential and underwhelming except for MC, IMO.
Here's hoping it all works out in the end (and that I didn't throw my vote away and YXM sucks) :)
Greg Anderson
01-12-2008, 02:11 PM
I was reading X-Factor regularly before the crossover, so that.
X-Men: Legacy - Not too excited about this, but since Carey's writing I'll give it a chance.
Cable - If rumor is right that Bishop is antagonist, I'll def be checking this out. :cool:
Fatguy
01-12-2008, 02:17 PM
Take out Wolverine First Class and New Exiles, and then add an all of the above feature!
Novaya Havoc
01-12-2008, 02:18 PM
Oh, MAN. I just read the new preview for New Exiles #1. LOLOLOLOL.
Oh MAN.
podmark
01-12-2008, 02:19 PM
Before MC my only regular reads were New X-Men and X-Men. New X-Men is my favorite title so Young X-Men, which is presumed to be it's successor, is the one I'm most excited about or interested in.
That said I plan to pick up Legacy and X-Force. I might get the first Uncanny but I doubt I'll get the whole arc until 500 - it doesn't sound that interesting. Cable is dependent on what it's really about. I'll probably pass on X-Factor - its a solid book but not really my thing. And I'll have to wait on Young X-Men and Astonishing.
Fatguy
01-12-2008, 02:23 PM
Oh, MAN. I just read the new preview for New Exiles #1. LOLOLOLOL.
Oh MAN.
You couldn't believe how AMAZING it looked??
Hi-Fi
01-12-2008, 02:24 PM
Link, Ben! :)
I voted for Legacy...carey rules so my expectations are high. Although my faviroute book is Astonishing i don't dislike Bianchi he just doesn't feel to fit the part for me. As for Ellis he is class but i wish he would stay on thunderbolts, he is making that book really enjoyable for practicaly everyone.
Flameworthy
01-12-2008, 02:27 PM
To be honest I'm not too excited about any of them. I need more details on them before i decide.
Yeah, I'm in the same boat. I'm definitely excited for whichever book Dazzler's appearing in, so I guess I'm gonna wait and see right now till t's officially announced.
Beast
01-12-2008, 02:27 PM
Link, Ben! :)
It's on the Marvel Universe board. First six pages are great. Best book of next week.
Pach!
01-12-2008, 02:29 PM
It's on the Marvel Universe board. First six pages are great. Best book of next week.
Your post brings more entertainment than that book.
But anyways.
X-force. Definitely.
Although Young X-men,Legacy, Excalibur and AXM SS all will probably be great.
Beast
01-12-2008, 02:31 PM
Your post brings more entertainment than that book.
The preview is really good. Grummett and CC mesh well together. Now that the dead weight is gone.
Novaya Havoc
01-12-2008, 02:39 PM
Link, Ben! :)
http://novayahavoc.blogspot.com/2008/01/new-exiles-fails-on-its-opening-line.html
Linked from there. I'm too lazy to venture back to the source. lol.
Pach!
01-12-2008, 02:40 PM
The preview is really good. Grummett and CC mesh well together. Now that the dead weight is gone.
I think the dead weight is still there.
Beast
01-12-2008, 02:41 PM
I think the dead weight is still there.
Nah, they got rid of most of the New Excalibur and Exiles cast. Thank god.
Novaya Havoc
01-12-2008, 02:49 PM
Nah, they got rid of most of the New Excalibur and Exiles cast. Thank god.
I think Andres means Chris Claremont, and not any particular member of the cast.
New Exiles > New X-Men MC?
Rilly?
Like, for rill?
Beast
01-12-2008, 02:55 PM
I think Andres means Chris Claremont, and not any particular member of the cast.
New Exiles > New X-Men MC?
Rilly?
Like, for rill?
Well, that's his opinion. Frankly, I think the preview shows a lot of potential for the storyarc. And for CC and Grummett's colaboration. And I love the format of using the 4-Page Prologue to establish the fundamental differences that the Exiles will encounter in the reality. Since it's usally a blind hop into a fairly unfamiliar reality for the reader most of the time. Hoping that those prologues continue to be a regular feature in each new storyarc. And yes, considering I already know the jist of what happens in New X-Men.
Shameless Fanboy
01-12-2008, 03:00 PM
As I'm already into New X-Men, I'm definitely intrigued about its metamorphosis into Young X-Men. I won't be following "adjectiveless" when it becomes X-Men: Legacy because I've just finally had my fill of Rogue and Gambit, and can't go through that stuff again. So my second one I'm looking most forward to is Uncanny...
Novaya Havoc
01-12-2008, 03:01 PM
Well, that's his opinion. Frankly, I think the preview shows a lot of potential for the storyarc. And for CC and Grummett's colaboration. And I love the format of using the 4-Page Prologue to establish the fundamental differences that the Exiles will encounter in the reality. Since it's usally a blind hop into a fairly unfamiliar reality for the reader most of the time. Hoping that those prologues continue to be a regular feature in each new storyarc. And yes, considering I already know the jist of what happens in New X-Men.
But here's how I see it.
We're solicited an "ALL NEW" Exiles, and the issue kicks off with the cast as an afterthought. The cast is not established -- one of the temporary realities they'll visit is. And it features the Fantastic Four. Again. We'll see how well that plays in Kansas.
And even Claremont can't get his own cast motive right fresh out of the box! "They didn't choose this." Uh, yeah, CC, they did. You had them choose this. Didn't Psylocke have a little dialogue with her Bro about choosing to go back and defend Cross-Time? Didn't Mystiq choose it? Didn't Sabretooth and Morph choose it? Didn't Sage?
Come on.
It's another generic superhero book, and Claremont's second launch without hitting the ground hard as to why they're really together. And he's emphasising (as many predicted) the cirucumstance the characters are in (the worlds) over how the circumstance they're in affects the characters (see: Judd Winick).
"They didn't choose this."
Colossal fail, straight out.
Frodo-X
01-12-2008, 03:01 PM
Overall, X-men: Legacy.
Of the new ones, I'm most looking forward to X-Force, with Young X-men right behind it.
All told, after MC I plan to read all of the ones listed in the poll (though Astonishing may be in trades, to avoid potential delay headaches), plus X-men: First Class.
At least at first.
Pach!
01-12-2008, 03:03 PM
Well, that's his opinion. Frankly, I think the preview shows a lot of potential for the storyarc. And for CC and Grummett's colaboration. And I love the format of using the 4-Page Prologue to establish the fundamental differences that the Exiles will encounter in the reality. Since it's usally a blind hop into a fairly unfamiliar reality for the reader most of the time. Hoping that those prologues continue to be a regular feature in each new storyarc. And yes, considering I already know the jist of what happens in New X-Men.
I guess. You'll probably like this book, you've enjoyed all the other work CC has been putting out lately, right?
I just don't like the characters, except for Rogue and Morph. But morph is alread effed up so whatever. When he changes his cast I'll give it a chance.
creaky
01-12-2008, 03:04 PM
X-Force. *sigh*
Beast
01-12-2008, 03:09 PM
I guess. You'll probably like this book, you've enjoyed all the other work CC has been putting out lately, right?
I just don't like the characters, except for Rogue and Morph. But morph is alread effed up so whatever. When he changes his cast I'll give it a chance.
I enjoyed most of New Excalibur. I wish Sage's presence would have been better explained. With the Hellfire Club storyline being shot down by Astonishing, her reason for being there sorta fell by the wayside. I liked the two issues focusing on Nocturne's stroke. The Albion arc I didn't care as much for. And Die By the Sword had a bit too much going on for my taste. Mostly due to having to put all the pieces in place for where various characters were headed. As for Exiles, I liked the first arc he did a lot. Felt the second one was just decent.
Beast
01-12-2008, 03:13 PM
But here's how I see it.
We're solicited an "ALL NEW" Exiles, and the issue kicks off with the cast as an afterthought. The cast is not established -- one of the temporary realities they'll visit is. And it features the Fantastic Four. Again. We'll see how well that plays in Kansas.
The Fantastic Four other than Sue die in the prologue that occured over 50 years ago.
And even Claremont can't get his own cast motive right fresh out of the box! "They didn't choose this." Uh, yeah, CC, they did. You had them choose this. Didn't Psylocke have a little dialogue with her Bro about choosing to go back and defend Cross-Time? Didn't Mystiq choose it? Didn't Sabretooth and Morph choose it? Didn't Sage?
Actually, the Dave and Paty Cockrum 'Entities' chose most of them for it. They tasked the team to carry on their work. Other than Sabretooth and Morph who were chosen by others. They decided to remain, sure. But you could say fate chosen them, considering how Mystiq and Rogue were recruited into the group.
Pach!
01-12-2008, 03:14 PM
The Fantastic Four other than Sue die in the prologue that occured over 50 years ago.
Actually, the Dave and Paty Cockrum 'Entities' chose them for it. Other than Sabretooth and Morph who were chosen by others. They decided to remain, sure. But you could say fate chosen them, considering how Mystiq and Rogue were recruited.
How were they recruited. Didn't they just decide to join. AKA "CHOSE THIS"
Novaya Havoc
01-12-2008, 03:14 PM
Actually, the Dave and Paty Cockrum 'Entities' chose them for it. Other than Sabretooth and Morph who were chosen by others. They decided to remain, sure. But you could say fate chosen them, considering how Mystiq and Rogue were recruited.
They can go home at any time they wish. Except Cat, because she's mysteriously awesome.
Not the same.
Beast
01-12-2008, 03:18 PM
They can go home at any time they wish. Except Cat, because she's mysteriously awesome.
Not the same.
That's been true of the team since Bedard. Ever since the Crystal Palace was established everyone has had the choice available to go home. They even discussed it once they took over the place. They chose not to go. Mystiq has nothing to go home to with his family dead. Rogue's a criminal in a police state. Sage's life is pretty much forfeit if she goes home. Not to mention there's concerns over all of Roma's knowledge of the multiverse.
MarvelGirlBoy
01-12-2008, 03:21 PM
I voted X-Force then realised I'd forgotten about X-Men: Legacy. :( Carey FTW. I'm a little less excited about Astonishing since it's been suggested that it'll be self-contained like the 'first round', but I still have high hopes.
Oh, MAN. I just read the new preview for New Exiles #1. LOLOLOLOL.
Oh MAN.
Maybe it's just because I never read New Excalibur, but reading that preview was a real shock. That was awful.
He used "fool" and "pretty much" twice in each panel. WTF!?
Novaya Havoc
01-12-2008, 03:24 PM
They chose not to go.
Exactly. And, as with this current cast, they're asking to participate.
Look, I'm just saying that Claremont has simply transformed Exiles into his own character vehicle, and little else. And because of that, I'm calling the superficial "New relaunch" on its face as nothing more than a superficial sales boost and "clean slate" for CC.
Which would be fine. If it were at all any different from where Bedard left off. Falling back on what Bedard did post Hyperion: Round 2 with the book doesn't help Claremont any. It's a broken vehicle, and for Claremont to artificially puff up the drama by acting as though the Exiles had no say in the matter (they're trapped in this mission) is as lame as when he artifically tried to tie the New Excalibur team together under the "Well, we need to save the people because of M-Day!"
Broken vehicle, lack of attention to characterization, and a heavy focus on temporary stages and characters (the alter-worlds) all point to no. That didn't work for New Excalibur, either.
You enjoy CC's work? Fine. But the vehicle is broken, Claremont won't fix it, and the book will gain no traction whatsoever. And he had all his issues on Exiles AND a separate mini-series to get to this point?
Mehhhhhhhhh.
ClanAskani
01-12-2008, 03:39 PM
I'm still alittle skeptical about all of this, but I chose Legacy because of Mike Carey. No matter how dumb that book sounds, I think he can make it all work.
I'll give Cable a chance, but I wouldn't exactly say I'm excited about it. More like nervous about how Cable will get screwed up this time.
X-Force is looking better than it initially sounded. Hopefully Young X-Men is a continuation of New X-Men.
I have no interest in Uncanny, New Exiles, Astonishing with Warren Ellis, X-Factor or anything with Wolverine.
Carencey
01-12-2008, 04:44 PM
Cable looks really good. X-Force is going to rock.
The rest... I'm not all that interested in.
Flameworthy
01-12-2008, 05:01 PM
http://novayahavoc.blogspot.com/2008/01/new-exiles-fails-on-its-opening-line.html
Linked from there. I'm too lazy to venture back to the source. lol.
It looks pretty blah. I don't think this book is gonna succeed.
Imperfect
01-12-2008, 06:54 PM
X-Factor.
Its the book thats lost the most of itself from the crossover and the majority of its characters have taken a backseat, plus there will be lineup changes, massive new character arcs to explore, and a more entertaining artist once this is all done.
Toboe
01-12-2008, 07:18 PM
X-Force is looking amazing so far, I'm really looking forward to it.
And I can not wait to see what Warren Ellis does with Astonishing X-Men.
The (lack of) info on X-Men Legacy so far haven't got me thrilled, maybe I'll warm up to it as new info is released. I'll miss Carey's old X-Men terribly, though. Same with Young X-Men.
I love X-Factor but I'm not particularly excited for it, really.
Although not a MC tie-in, I'm interested in Wolverine First Class, terrible name aside. I really enjoy the dynamic between Wolverine and Kitty Pryde.
As for Uncanny X-Men, I'm just not feeling Brubaker on this. Mike Choi's art will sure improve it, and who knows, maybe Brubaker might deliver one of this days.
Tazirai
01-12-2008, 07:20 PM
To be honest I'm not too excited about any of them. I need more details on them before i decide.
Same here. I want to get excited about excalibur for Betsy reasons. But Marvel has been such a let down this year..
We'll see though which I choose.
Wade_Wilsons_Tailor
01-12-2008, 07:22 PM
Cable, can't wait to see him start kicking ass again.
BabeBro
01-12-2008, 07:35 PM
I'd have to pick Legacy. Not only because I'm a Rogue fan, but because I am so anticipating her return and hope that she gets some new powers for this book.
justin gilchrist
01-13-2008, 09:19 PM
I can't say I'm exactly excited about any of them, but I'm cautiously optimistic about Legacy because of Mike Carey.
X-Force does look better than I would have expected.
Christopher O
01-13-2008, 09:23 PM
I'm most looking forward to Astonishing X-Men because Warren Ellis is a god. I'm also looking forward to Uncanny X-Men and Young X-Men.
Cayman
01-13-2008, 09:26 PM
X-Force followed by Cable followed by Astonishing followed by Jason Aaron's Wolverine run followed by Young X-Men, perhaps. The rest can eff off.
Diablito
01-13-2008, 09:28 PM
Astonishing X-Men, followed by Young X-Men. X-Force is also looking to be amazing!
Will.S
01-13-2008, 09:35 PM
I'm really digging the X-Force premise and art and I didn't know if I would like Clayton's art on the X-Books but it's quite good. I'm also interested in Cable which is interestingly another title with a similar painted look.
Uncanny.....I dunno. I love Ed's writing but I'm not sure I'll like Mike Choi's art on the book as much as I liked his X-23 book. Maybe if he had a different colorist.
herrjonp
01-14-2008, 02:23 PM
I don't understand what Marvel is doing with the titles coming out of Messiah Complex. I thought one of their motivations behind the crossover was to establish the focus of each title and to attract/re-attract readers to the X-franchises.
Well, I'm someone who just started reading comics with MC and was intrigued by the story. I went and got a TPB of adjectiveless and really liked rogue's team and the story they told. I went and read the synopses of New X-Men and X-Factor over at UncannyXmen.net and really liked the characters and stories. I want to read about those teams and characters after MC, but the only team that's still around is X-Factor (which I will be reading.) The New X-Men title is gone with the kids going who knows where and adj-less is becoming Legacy about Prof X who I find boring.
Where is a new reader supposed to jump on board? I mean Uncanny seems to be the "status quo" book and post MC it's about Holidays with Hippies?? No thanks. I want to hear what Young X-Men is about, but it's not printing post-MC, so they could very well lose me in the couple months before it comes out.
So I guess I'm most looking forward to X-Factor because I know what to expect from it and think I'll like it. Maybe for Young cause I love the characters that MIGHT be in it. As for the others, it's just a confusing mess for a new reader.
jarrod
01-14-2008, 02:37 PM
Uncanny actually, which is strange considering Brubaker's left a pretty bad taste in my mouth overall. Still, I love the (early) lineup and direction so far... way more exciting than what we know about X-Factor, X-Force or Legends, even though they'll all likely be better books in the end. :/
As for stuff not directly MX-related, easily Excalibur. Go out and buy the Wisdom trade people, you'll thank me later.
ChristosSoter
01-14-2008, 02:45 PM
Young X-men of course!!!
metalgorgomon
01-14-2008, 04:10 PM
Not too sure bout the X-books post MC. Guess I'm in the minority here, but I'm very excited bout New Exiles and of course.. X-Force. I definitely will check out X-Men Legacy as well simply cause Mr Carey has been writing the best X-book for the last year.
GeneralSpecific
01-14-2008, 04:11 PM
Uncanny, for hippie-bashing and because Astonishing seems like such a long way away.
xmanfan527
01-14-2008, 04:12 PM
x force is the book im most looking foward 2
G. Wayne
01-14-2008, 04:45 PM
I'll be getting
-Uncanny X-Men
-Astonishing X-Men
-X-Men Legacy (carrying over from Adjectiveless)
-Young X-Men (carrying over from New)
And I'm going to give X-Force a few issues. So, um, yeah, all those.
Mystique25
01-14-2008, 05:03 PM
Excited about everything minus Wolverine, Origins, otherwise can't wait. I am probably the most excited about Cable, X-force, and Legacy though. Uncanny is going to be so cool, and I could go on about all them really. I can't wait for February/March comics.
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