Is Sentry getting a new mini and/or fighting Thor soon?

[Dan L]

Is Sentry getting a new mini and/or fighting Thor soon?

anyone know if this is in the cards? I heard a rumor that jenkins is doing a sentry/thor mini since tony stark may use sentry against thor. also, anyone know if bendis has any big feats planned for sentry?

[Will.S]

Is Sentry getting a new mini and/or fighting Thor soon?

anyone know if this is in the cards? I heard a rumor that jenkins is doing a sentry/thor mini since tony stark may use sentry against thor. also, anyone know if bendis has any big feats planned for sentry?
I haven't heard of a new Sentry mini by Paul but Thor is set to guest appear in Mighty Avengers. Supposedly he might fight Sentry there, that was basically all I was able to get out of the Bendis podcast on wordballoon.

[bjtrdff]

He's going to go back in time and ejaculate in the primordial ooze. And that will retcon the entire MU.

And Spider-Man won't be ruined.

[Bulky Brent]

I brought this exact same up in a Sentry thread(not started by me) before.It would be too premature to give him an ongoing series at this current he must have a more solid fan base and status quo first but another mini would be a great idea.

As For a Sentry Vs Thor I think it's way too soon to see this happen because Thor has just recently returned to the MU proper.

[Castiglione]

While I couldn't give two big s**t's about a Sentry on-going, I really like the idea of a Thor versus Sentry head to head. Especially now that Thor "isn't holding back".

[darksaint124]

While I couldn't give to big s**t's about a Sentry on-going, I really like the idea of a Thor versus Sentry head to head. Especially now that Thor "isn't holding back".

I wanna see Thor throw the Sentry into the sun.

[Shyft]

I wanna see Thor throw the Sentry into the sun.

i wanna see Sentry break Thor's stupid little hammer. i doubt either of us will get what we want though.

[TotalWorldDomination]

i wanna see Sentry break Thor's stupid little hammer. i doubt either of us will get what we want though.

I want to see them go at it, tire eachother out, have it very evenly matched and then have Ares come in and behead them both. God of War > God of Thunder + Mental Patient with the power of a million exploding suns :D

But if that can't happen, I'm rooting for sentry. Thor needs to be taken down a few pegs.

[XPac]

I want to see them go at it, tire eachother out, have it very evenly matched and then have Ares come in and behead them both. God of War > God of Thunder + Mental Patient with the power of a million exploding suns :D

But if that can't happen, I'm rooting for sentry. Thor needs to be taken down a few pegs.

Honestly, I think people have this impression that Ares is more powerfull than he actually is because of his "god of War" status.

He's only in the class 70 ball park, so he's weaker than Thing or She-Hulk. There's a reason he went down after a single shot from Hulk... he's just not in that league even though he clearly thinks he is.

[Wild Card13]

Personally, I'd love to see the Sentry clean Thor's clock so he can finally ascend to the powerhouse status he so richly deserves, but I doubt any Sentry/Thor fight would end conclusively. And even if it did end with a victory for one, there's no doubt that two years later a rematch will happen where the other one wins.

And I would totally buy a Sentry ongoing, as long as Paul Jenkins wasn't writing it.

[TotalWorldDomination]

Honestly, I think people have this impression that Ares is more powerfull than he actually is because of his "god of War" status.

He's only in the class 70 ball park, so he's weaker than Thing or She-Hulk. There's a reason he went down after a single shot from Hulk... he's just not in that league even though he clearly thinks he is.

Ares' power levels have been presented in a varity of different classes for a very long time. In his first appearance, if I remember correctly, it took the combined effort of Herc and Thor to stop him. He's conqured Olympus on a number of occasions and it is indicated that he has the power to create giant mythical creatures (He created the Stymphalian birds as representatives of his own glory). Over time he became a prime candidate for Jobbing by other heroes (I seem to remember Namor beating on him once) but the potential for him to be Thor-Class has alwase been there.

In his recent Mini he basically destroyed the armies of Hades by himself and is largely shown to be one of the more powerful of the Olympian gods. since it has been stated that Asgard and Olympus are of roughly equal power levels, I'd say its more then reasonable to belive that, if written properly, Ares could be in the Thor/Sentry/Hulk range.

[RodeoWearden]

Sentry. And Thor.

Without a doubt, my two favorite characters. I loved Sentry's two minis already, and Thor has been my guy ever since his second volume.

So I would undoubtably buy a Senty Mini, and if they did a Sentry/Thor one-shot, I'd probably crap my pants.

And its questionable about Ares level of power, because he's been shown at a few different power levels. Personally I would put up in the Thor/Sentry level, he may not have the raw power to back it up, but he's got the experience to make up for it.

[XPac]

Ares' power levels have been presented in a varity of different classes for a very long time. In his first appearance, if I remember correctly, it took the combined effort of Herc and Thor to stop him. He's conqured Olympus on a number of occasions and it is indicated that he has the power to create giant mythical creatures (He created the Stymphalian birds as representatives of his own glory). Over time he became a prime candidate for Jobbing by other heroes (I seem to remember Namor beating on him once) but the potential for him to be Thor-Class has alwase been there.

In his recent Mini he basically destroyed the armies of Hades by himself and is largely shown to be one of the more powerful of the Olympian gods. since it has been stated that Asgard and Olympus are of roughly equal power levels, I'd say its more then reasonable to belive that, if written properly, Ares could be in the Thor/Sentry/Hulk range.

There's no doubt he's ONE of the most powerful Olympains... but few gods outside of the Sky fathers are at that class 100 level. Thor is just on another level.

He's not as strong (class 70... pretty strong, but hardly top tier), can't fly, are really relies more on weapons than magic. Outside of his first appearance, he's never really shown to be anything close to a high end Thor. Even in his mini.

[Spiffy]

Is Sentry getting a new mini
Lord I hope not.

I hope he just goes away. And pulls that magic he used to have and makes everyone forget he even exists. INCLUDING us.

[XPac]

Lord I hope not.

I hope he just goes away. And pulls that magic he used to have and makes everyone forget he even exists. INCLUDING us.

Though I'm not really a big fan of the character, in all fairness I do think his last 2 mini's were pretty good.

[Castiglione]

Personally, I'd love to see the Sentry clean Thor's clock so he can finally ascend to the powerhouse status he so richly deserves, but I doubt any Sentry/Thor fight would end conclusively. And even if it did end with a victory for one, there's no doubt that two years later a rematch will happen where the other one wins.

And I would totally buy a Sentry ongoing, as long as Paul Jenkins wasn't writing it.

He already is power house. He was created as a character that way. Whether he richly deserves it or not is something else entirely.

[Rock It Raccoon]

Personally, I'd love to see the Sentry clean Thor's clock so he can finally ascend to the powerhouse status he so richly deserves, but I doubt any Sentry/Thor fight would end conclusively. And even if it did end with a victory for one, there's no doubt that two years later a rematch will happen where the other one wins.

And I would totally buy a Sentry ongoing, as long as Paul Jenkins wasn't writing it.

whats wrong with paul jenkins? loved his MK inhumans mini and what i read of the later JRjr sentry mini. also i picked up an old issue of hellblazer he wrote that i thought was mighty fine. i guess he must have done some bad comics, but it seems to me he has a pretty solid track record. what am i missing?

[Maestro]

Sentry vs. Thor would end up in a lame tie like Sentry vs. Hulk.

[GalactaSurfer]

Uuhm? :confused:

What the hell is it about Sentry that people like?

Is there anything to like? He hasnt done anything remotely interesting um ever.

[Camron Amaya]

Personally, I'd love to see the Sentry clean Thor's clock so he can finally ascend to the powerhouse status he so richly deserves, but I doubt any Sentry/Thor fight would end conclusively. And even if it did end with a victory for one, there's no doubt that two years later a rematch will happen where the other one wins.

And I would totally buy a Sentry ongoing, as long as Paul Jenkins wasn't writing it.

And how does he deserve it?

[Dan L]

sentry is in need of some mammoth feats in my opinion. I really like the character, but he needs to beat down some A-list characters to justify the narrative implication that he's thor level or above. I'm thinking something along the lines of

- knocking out gladiator
- blocking a god blast from thor and/or grasping/keeping thor's hammer from thor
- a galactus encounter wherein galactus recounts their stalemate referenced in the mini
- fighting an all out Thor to a draw
- defeating red hulk or green hulk
- freaking out and defeating the entire MA team

anyone think those ideas are unreasonable or have some feats of their own that could save sentry some face in the wake of his shaky stalemate to WWH?

[Dan L]

And how does he deserve it?

the implication is that he was once was one of the top heroes in marvel...that he was the last line of defence during major crisis events...like WWH wherein he destroyed the stone ship thus freeing the gamma draining tech and revealing hulk for the puny wimp he really is to miek and the warbound. his part was instrumental in beating hulk. anyway, the idea is that he paid his dues during another era in the marvel-verse...then was mind-wiped by mastermind. his experience and memories were all but deleted. he was basically robbed of his place in the marvel-verse, so i'd say he deserves to have it back. just my two cents

[GalactaSurfer]

sentry is in need of some mammoth feats in my opinion. I really like the character, but he needs to beat down some A-list characters to justify the narrative implication that he's thor level or above. I'm thinking something along the lines of

- knocking out gladiator
- blocking a god blast from thor and/or grasping/keeping thor's hammer from thor
- a galactus encounter wherein galactus recounts their stalemate referenced in the mini- fighting an all out Thor to a draw
- defeating red hulk or green hulk
- freaking out and defeating the entire MA team

anyone think those ideas are unreasonable or have some feats of their own that could save sentry some face in the wake of his shaky stalemate to WWH?


I reject anything refering to Galactus or any of his heralds that has to do with Sentry. Imo no character should have a 1 panel win (or stalemate) over big G and his crew. That Sh#t is wiggity wack!

[Secret Identity]

I think the Sentry mini will go a little like this...

The Illuminati get together and decide, in the best interests of man kind, that a creature that is so unpredictable, powerful, and borderline insane, can't be kept here on earth...so they get a LMD of his wife to tell him to get on a shuttle to go fight to Annihlus (sp?) wave....SIKE...we're sending you away sentry. This will be followed by Planet Sentry and then the blockbuster World War Sentry!

[Wild Card13]

whats wrong with paul jenkins? loved his MK inhumans mini and what i read of the later JRjr sentry mini. also i picked up an old issue of hellblazer he wrote that i thought was mighty fine. i guess he must have done some bad comics, but it seems to me he has a pretty solid track record. what am i missing?

Anything with the words "Front Line" in the title.

Uuhm? :confused:

What the hell is it about Sentry that people like?

Is there anything to like? He hasnt done anything remotely interesting um ever.

I guess the reason that I like him is because I hate Superman. I hate how bland of a character he is, and I hate how he's so powerful as to make a lot of stories kinda pointless. The Sentry, on the other hand, is an interesting subversion of that. In body, he has all the power in the universe, but his psyche and self-esteem are so fragile that he's basically a glass colossus. I dunno, I just like that characterization, though I feel he's been grossly underused/misused.

And how does he deserve it?

Because he's been written to be a powerhouse, but we've yet to see him cut loose. The only time he's come close was in an event with the Hulk's name on it; of course this newer, faster, better, stronger Hulk was gonna win. It stands to reason that the Hulk can't lose World War Hulk. What the Sentry needs is for a writer to demonstrate exactly how much he deserves our respect without the fans saying, "Oh, they're just trying to force him on us."

Honestly, I feel like punching Thor's lights out might be the trick.

[Castiglione]

Anything with the words "Front Line" in the title.

I guess the reason that I like him is because I hate Superman. I hate how bland of a character he is, and I hate how he's so powerful as to make a lot of stories kinda pointless. The Sentry, on the other hand, is an interesting subversion of that. In body, he has all the power in the universe, but his psyche and self-esteem are so fragile that he's basically a glass colossus. I dunno, I just like that characterization, though I feel he's been grossly underused/misused.

Because he's been written to be a powerhouse, but we've yet to see him cut loose. The only time he's come close was in an event with the Hulk's name on it; of course this newer, faster, better, stronger Hulk was gonna win. It stands to reason that the Hulk can't lose World War Hulk. What the Sentry needs is for a writer to demonstrate exactly how much he deserves our respect without the fans saying, "Oh, they're just trying to force him on us."

Honestly, I feel like punching Thor's lights out might be the trick.

Actually the reason you like Sentry is alsao why a lot of people love Superman so much. For all Supes power it is probably his "humanity" (e.g. self doubt, fear etc.) that is played on by his enemies. Hell, Batman uses against all the time.

And you've done nothing to actually explain why Sentry deserves such recognition as a top line Marvel Icon. He was written to be a powerhouse sure, but that doesn't guarantee your place in the Marvel pantheon of great characters. A writer portraying him in a good light is not going to make him instantly loved, it takes a good deal of time for that.

[Bob-el]

Personally, I'd love to see the Sentry clean Thor's clock so he can finally ascend to the powerhouse status he so richly deserves, but I doubt any Sentry/Thor fight would end conclusively. And even if it did end with a victory for one, there's no doubt that two years later a rematch will happen where the other one wins.

And I would totally buy a Sentry ongoing, as long as Paul Jenkins wasn't writing it.

For decades Marvel has maintained the relative equality of Thor and Hulk. Now that they have effectively demonstrated an equality between Sentry and Hulk there should at most be a three way tie. With Thor having reached Lord of Asgard level (Odin-class), I can't see Sentry credibly beating him but I can imagine Thor bringing to bear godly powers other than sheer strength to win . If Sentry was a particularly smart fighter, I could imagine him outmaneuvering Thor but Sentry isn't so I wouldn't expect that either.

If the fight goes down in MA, I'd be concerned that they would have Sentry win since that is his home mag currently and more often than not in hero fights the win goes to guy whose fans will be reading the issue.

[rZi]

I wanna see Thor throw the Sentry into the sun.

Amen to that.

[Camron Amaya]

the implication is that he was once was one of the top heroes in marvel...that he was the last line of defence during major crisis events...like WWH wherein he destroyed the stone ship thus freeing the gamma draining tech and revealing hulk for the puny wimp he really is to miek and the warbound. his part was instrumental in beating hulk. anyway, the idea is that he paid his dues during another era in the marvel-verse...then was mind-wiped by mastermind. his experience and memories were all but deleted. he was basically robbed of his place in the marvel-verse, so i'd say he deserves to have it back. just my two cents

Lol but he actualy ISN'T any of that. He was just invented and crammed in there, with people just SAYING THAT, not him actualy doing anything. Which is dissrespectfull to characters who have been 40 years in the making and gained respect that way.

Honestly, I feel like punching Thor's lights out might be the trick

Degrading other characters for no reason is always a easy way to build up new crappy ones! Yay!

If he couldn't beat Hulk he's not beating Thor who has 100000000 more powers. Not if it's logical anyway. But since Marvel never is I guess it's possible.

[Shyft]

Lol but he actualy ISN'T any of that. He was just invented and crammed in there, with people just SAYING THAT, not him actualy doing anything. Which is dissrespectfull to characters who have been 40 years in the making and gained respect that way.



Fought Hulk to a stand still. Hulk has often been shown to be on a par with Thor, and was the angriest and strongest he had ever been seen.

Beat up Ultron, nearly tearing it in half.

Almost took out Iron Man in Iron Man's solo book, was only stopped by Iron Man hacking Cloc.

Knocked out Wolverine without breaking a sweat.

Break's Terrax axe and stops Terrax dead without really trying.

Smashed through the head of some Atlantean guy.

Managed to keep The Collective(who had just killed Alpha Flight and mashed up Ms. Marvel AND Iron Man, ) busy.

In his Void form, stomped all over the X-Men, New Avengers, Inhumans and SHIELD.

Survived a Nuclear Bomb

Tore Carnage in Half

As the Void broke every bone in the Hulk's body.


Not bad for a character who hasnt been around that long. Of course he doesnt have as many feats as say Thor, but Thor has been around for decades. HOW ELSE IS A NEW CHARACTER MEANT TO BUILD UP A REPUTATION AS BEING POWERFUL IF NOT BY BEATING UP OTHER CHARACTERS AND ESTABLISHING A LIST OF FEATS?

[Slyfer]

The Sentry is the most powerful non -cosmic being in the Universe . I would love for Joss Whendon or Brubaker to get a hold of this dude or better yet Warren Ellis. Sweeeeeeeeet. But Sentry is way up there in the power set, reeeeeaaaaaaaaaalllllllly up there, he made the whole Universe forget he existed as a protective measure. Can raise the dead, Sub due the hulk with his energies.


I advise every one to read the Sentry before the New Avengers run. Trust me. This guy was like Superman Litearlly to all the Marvel characters and he knew everyone. He was literally Marvels most powerful Hero and Villan.

[PaidHero]

The Sentry PWNS and can sub due the Hulk. I wanna see who gets the belt if Thor and him fought.

[Castiglione]

Fought Hulk to a stand still. Hulk has often been shown to be on a par with Thor, and was the angriest and strongest he had ever been seen.

Beat up Ultron, nearly tearing it in half.

Almost took out Iron Man in Iron Man's solo book, was only stopped by Iron Man hacking Cloc.

Knocked out Wolverine without breaking a sweat.

Break's Terrax axe and stops Terrax dead without really trying.

Smashed through the head of some Atlantean guy.

Managed to keep The Collective(who had just killed Alpha Flight and mashed up Ms. Marvel AND Iron Man, ) busy.

In his Void form, stomped all over the X-Men, New Avengers, Inhumans and SHIELD.

Survived a Nuclear Bomb

Tore Carnage in Half

As the Void broke every bone in the Hulk's body.


Not bad for a character who hasnt been around that long. Of course he doesnt have as many feats as say Thor, but Thor has been around for decades. HOW ELSE IS A NEW CHARACTER MEANT TO BUILD UP A REPUTATION AS BEING POWERFUL IF NOT BY BEATING UP OTHER CHARACTERS AND ESTABLISHING A LIST OF FEATS?

Actually be a decent concept would be a start.

The Sentry is the most powerful non -cosmic being in the Universe . I would love for Joss Whendon or Brubaker to get a hold of this dude or better yet Warren Ellis. Sweeeeeeeeet. But Sentry is way up there in the power set, reeeeeaaaaaaaaaalllllllly up there, he made the whole Universe forget he existed as a protective measure. Can raise the dead, Sub due the hulk with his energies.

I advise every one to read the Sentry before the New Avengers run. Trust me. This guy was like Superman Litearlly to all the Marvel characters and he knew everyone. He was literally Marvels most powerful Hero and Villan.

Your talking like he was a lost great hero. The only thing he lost was a little bit of respect for the Marvel Universe when he was forced upon its readers.

[Castiglione]

The Sentry PWNS and can sub due the Hulk. I wanna see who gets the belt if Thor and him fought.

Had to say.

Though now that Thor "isn't holding back" and is the Lord of Asgard I'd say Thor would send the yellow spandex head case packing back to his watch-tower or wherever he lives these days.

[Shyft]

Actually be a decent concept would be a start.

A powerful schizophrenic hero who's own twisted alter-ego forces him to erase the memory of them both from every being on the planet? Your right, i bet you come up with better ideas ALL THE TIME!



Your talking like he was a lost great hero. The only thing he lost was a little bit of respect for the Marvel Universe when he was forced upon its readers.

Its simply terrible how Marvel force you to buy all those comics with the Sentry in them. You should write to your local political representative to complain about it.

[Castiglione]

A powerful schizophrenic hero who's own twisted alter-ego forces him to erase the memory of them both from every being on the planet? Your right, i bet you come up with better ideas ALL THE TIME!

Spoken like a true fanboy.

Its simply terrible how Marvel force you to buy all those comics with the Sentry in them. You should write to your local political representative to complain about it.

Currently I don't buy any comics with Sentry in them.

[Shyft]

Currently I don't buy any comics with Sentry in them. Chump.

So how are Marvel forcing the Sentry down your throat?

[Castiglione]

So how are Marvel forcing the Sentry down your throat?

If you actually read what I wrote you would see I said "readers" not "reader".

[Shyft]

If you actually read what I wrote you would see I said "readers" not "reader".

ok so how are they forcing it down ANYONES throat? Your not the only one with the power to not buy comics with the Sentry in.

[Castiglione]

ok so how are they forcing it down ANYONES throat? Your not the only one with the power to not buy comics with the Sentry in.

Sentry lacks a solo title and is present in how many team books? Mighty Avengers is the only one I can think of because I don’t read anything with him in it. He serves no purpose on that team as they already have a Wolverine/Thor type in Ares (as explained by the writer at the time). So what is his purpose in the MU. Apprenty he was used as an example by Paul Jenkins to show the difference Silver Age heroics and contemporary heroics. And his purpose now would be what? He is redundant as a character.

That is how he is being forced upon readers (not forced down their throats as you say.)

[vampireboy97]

is the sentry going to switch sides and join the new avengers?
in mighty avengers 7 you see his wife asking iron man to depower her husband or kill him before he kills everyone else and as many of you said, the mighty avengers already have a wolverine & a thor in the form of ares, so maybe he's gonna jump ship right?

did any of you guys read the civil war parodies? after golith gets killed spiderman yells out something like "we already have the sentry, but no, you had to make and evil clone of a guy just as powerful".

so i'd like to see thor vs the void and sentry vs the evil thor clone

what'd you think?

:eek:

[Castiglione]

is the sentry going to switch sides and join the new avengers?
in mighty avengers 7 you see his wife asking iron man to depower her husband or kill him before he kills everyone else and as many of you said, the mighty avengers already have a wolverine & a thor in the form of ares, so maybe he's gonna jump ship right?

did any of you guys read the civil war parodies? after golith gets killed spiderman yells out something like "we already have the sentry, but no, you had to make and evil clone of a guy just as powerful".

so i'd like to see thor vs the void and sentry vs the evil thor clone

what'd you think?

:eek:

Here's an idea.

Tony decides the Sentry is too much of a nutcase to risk leaving him with power/alive and attempts to restrain/kill/de-power the Sentry.

Sentry goes emo, loses it and bakes Stark, handing him yet another lesson in the "stop being a pompous ass" type of way.

Thor gets sick of Sentry's undeserved hype and after his warm up of thrashing the Destroyer flies over from Asgard and knocks the living piss out of Bob before giving him the thumbs down and knocking his head clean off with Mjolnir.

There you have it. Sentry dies to everyone’s relief. Stark finally learns his lesson and Thor ends the dispute out of who is more powerful between him and the retconned abomination.

[Camron Amaya]

Thor being a drooling infentile retard who forgets he has any powers besides his really big fists is the only way he would ever lose. Kinda like the reason he never just blows the HUlk's head off.

[Dan L]

you forgot the finale; the void shows up, swallows Thor and Tony and uses the hammer as a tooth pick as thor slowly digests in void's belly. void throws the hammer away and it lands on the punisher's head killing him instantly. the end.

[Camron Amaya]

lol @ the void. Has there ever been a more emo thing in comics?

Ohhhh my damaged fragile psyche ohhhhh help me it manifests as a big black void of darkness who mocks meeeeee heeeeeeeeelppppp

[Dan L]

try reading the comics. the sentry's angst is what you THINK is emo.

[XPac]

lol @ the void. Has there ever been a more emo thing in comics?

Ohhhh my damaged fragile psyche ohhhhh help me it manifests as a big black void of darkness who mocks meeeeee heeeeeeeeelppppp

Like many marvel characters, he runs on a certain degree of angst that serves as a metaphor for the human condition.

Hulk kind of works the same way. You can call it emo, but over the past few decades I think it worked pretty well.

Peter Parker do a degree was fueled by a bit o emo teenage angst himself with the guilt he had over the death of Uncle Ben. I think elements like this are what humanize the MU characters and frankly make them superior to a lot of their DC counter parts (though obvuiosly that's just my opinion).

[Castiglione]

you forgot the finale; the void shows up, swallows Thor and Tony and uses the hammer as a tooth pick as thor slowly digests in void's belly. void throws the hammer away and it lands on the punisher's head killing him instantly. the end.

That not a finale. That's a What If? for sentry fanboys.

When Thor kills the Sentry the Void would realise tat he is redundant because he was the Sentry's balance. Therefore, the Void would top himself.

[Castiglione]

Like many marvel characters, he runs on a certain degree of angst that serves as a metaphor for the human condition.

Hulk kind of works the same way. You can call it emo, but over the past few decades I think it worked pretty well.

Peter Parker do a degree was fueled by a bit o emo teenage angst himself with the guilt he had over the death of Uncle Ben. I think elements like this are what humanize the MU characters and frankly make them superior to a lot of their DC counter parts (though obvuiosly that's just my opinion).

This true. Marvel is well known for incorparating real world issues into their characters.

But with Sentry all they've done is turn the volume up on his power and his problems. Some will say his mental problems are tried and true, realistic etc. Others say that it is old hat, a weak excuse and lack of creativity. When you look at the hoax Marvel (with the help of Wizard) created to generate the hype surronding the Sentry, you can see why people think he is a joke and are extremely cynical about his place in the MU.

[TotalWorldDomination]

When Thor kills the Sentry the Void would realise tat he is redundant because he was the Sentry's balance. Therefore, the Void would top himself.

No, when Thor kills sentry every hero in the MU suddenly realizes that the Thor Clone in civil war wasn't a murderer because of faulty programing, he was a murderer because he was based on thor who just slaughtered the sentry. You'd have a major world-wide team up to beat on the asgardians that would end with the illumnati banishing asgard from reality via some dr. strange spell or Richards/stark designed machine.

of course the more like likely ending to the sentince "when thor kills the sentry" is "pigs start flying". No way marvel has one major property murder another. killing is for clones, ex-villians and b-levelers.

[Castiglione]

No, when Thor kills sentry every hero in the MU suddenly realizes that the Thor Clone in civil war wasn't a murderer because of faulty programing, he was a murderer because he was based on thor who just slaughtered the sentry. You'd have a major world-wide team up to beat on the asgardians that would end with the illumnati banishing asgard from reality via some dr. strange spell or Richards/stark designed machine.

of course the more like likely ending to the sentince "when thor kills the sentry" is "pigs start flying". No way marvel has one major property murder another. killing is for clones, ex-villians and b-levelers.

Your right. Thor should just hand Sentry a tissue and tell him to get over it. Sentry's lip will tremble and then he'll banish himself from the world and living memory.

Though Thor has killed Loki before so there is a precedence. And it'd be cruel to let such a sick creature such as the Sentry live.

[Dan L]

That not a finale. That's a What If? for sentry fanboys.

When Thor kills the Sentry the Void would realise tat he is redundant because he was the Sentry's balance. Therefore, the Void would top himself.


no no no...the what if? is even better. Thor admits he only killed his thor clone dressed up as sentry. void and sentry proceed to string thor up like a pinata and pound on him with his hammer until they get bored and void eats him.

[Castiglione]

no no no...the what if? is even better. Thor admits he only killed his thor clone dressed up as sentry. void and sentry proceed to string thor up like a pinata and pound on him with his hammer until they get bored and void eats him.

That isn't a What If? Thats your wet dream.

[Will.S]

But with Sentry all they've done is turn the volume up on his power and his problems. Some will say his mental problems are tried and true, realistic etc. Others say that it is old hat, a weak excuse and lack of creativity. When you look at the hoax Marvel (with the help of Wizard) created to generate the hype surronding the Sentry, you can see why people think he is a joke and are extremely cynical about his place in the MU.
While I like the Sentry and I really didn't mind the way he was introduced, if they don't have anything interesting in mind with Sentry (beyond what Bendis does with him throughout MA and Secret Invasion) then I think it's time to shelf the character.

[Castiglione]

While I like the Sentry and I really didn't mind the way he was introduced, if they don't have anything interesting in mind with Sentry (beyond what Bendis does with him throughout MA and Secret Invasion) then I think it's time to shelf the character.

Sentry really has no place on Earth. His power level is better served in a cosmic setting.

But ultimately he is a poor concept.

[Shellhead]

I advise every one to read the Sentry before the New Avengers run. Trust me. This guy was like Superman Litearlly to all the Marvel characters and he knew everyone. He was literally Marvels most powerful Hero and Villan.

In reality, Thor is one of Marvel's great foundation characters from the early '60s. He was one of the great characters that made Marvel become more popular and successful than DC by the early '70s. Sentry is just riding on those coattails, and not very successfully, judging by the fact that Thor has a monthly title again while Sentry is just filling a back row slot on the Mighty Avengers.

[reddog]

I went to WW philly last year and being a screen printer made a T-shirt with the marvel logo and the phrase ''no more Sentry'' on the bottom and was overwhelmed by people asking me for one. During the Cup o' Joe panel i waited my turn patiently and when it was my turn I simply asked Joe to please kill the Sentry the crowd clapped like crazy and Joe just said no. My point to this post is Simple the majority of long time marvel fans can't stand the Sentry and Its just another one of Joey Qs boys club pet projects.

[Slyfer]

Wow the love for Bob just died lol

[dabig2]

I went to WW philly last year and being a screen printer made a T-shirt with the marvel logo and the phrase ''no more Sentry'' on the bottom and was overwhelmed by people asking me for one. During the Cup o' Joe panel i waited my turn patiently and when it was my turn I simply asked Joe to please kill the Sentry the crowd clapped like crazy and Joe just said no. My point to this post is Simple the majority of long time marvel fans can't stand the Sentry and Its just another one of Joey Qs boys club pet projects.

Haha, that was you? :p
I remember laughing my ass off when I read that question/answer on one of the websites following the event.

[Dan L]

I went to WW philly last year and being a screen printer made a T-shirt with the marvel logo and the phrase ''no more Sentry'' on the bottom and was overwhelmed by people asking me for one. During the Cup o' Joe panel i waited my turn patiently and when it was my turn I simply asked Joe to please kill the Sentry the crowd clapped like crazy and Joe just said no. My point to this post is Simple the majority of long time marvel fans can't stand the Sentry and Its just another one of Joey Qs boys club pet projects

So the desires of long time marvel fans should supercede those of ALL marvel fans, new, fairly new (5-10 years), faithful, and casual alike? it doesn't matter that the minis sold well and he has loyal fans? it doesn't surprise me that you got that reaction at WW philly. many of your "supporters" were probably hardcore DC fans who saw this as an opportunity to protect the sanctity of superman. others likely only have a fleeting familiarity with the character and a knee jerk reaction. it's sad that their is so much resistance to one of the most creative concepts in years.

[Camron Amaya]

Alot of stuff that sucks balls, sells well. Doesn't mean s*it.

[scouse mouse]

Is Sentry getting a new mini and/or fighting Thor soon?

I hope not.

[GalactaSurfer]

So the desires of long time marvel fans should supercede those of ALL marvel fans, new, fairly new (5-10 years), faithful, and casual alike? it doesn't matter that the minis sold well and he has loyal fans? it doesn't surprise me that you got that reaction at WW philly. many of your "supporters" were probably hardcore DC fans who saw this as an opportunity to protect the sanctity of superman. others likely only have a fleeting familiarity with the character and a knee jerk reaction. it's sad that their is so much resistance to one of the most creative concepts in years.

Um yeah right! You cannot be serious!

Hes a superman rip dude. And Superman has no place on Marvel earth.

If you wanna see real creative concepts see Young Avengers and the Hood.

I hope i dont come across all hatery i just dont like Jesus cristo like super heros.

[XPac]

Um yeah right! You cannot be serious!

Hes a superman rip dude. And Superman has no place on Marvel earth.

If you wanna see real creative concepts see Young Avengers and the Hood.

I hope i dont come across all hatery i just dont like Jesus cristo like super heros.

He's really NOT that similiar to superman though. Yes, he has many of the same powers... but a LOT of people do.

His concept is very different, and the execution of that concept especially in the first mini was actually quite unique. His first mini in my opinion as one of the most creative introductions for a character I've ever seen.

I'm certainly not a huge fan, but he frankly hasn't done anything really deserving of the hatred he's getting. For the most part, he's just kind of there in the background. I honestly don't think he does enough to warrent a great deal of like or dislike at this point.

[Taskmaster]

Um yeah right! You cannot be serious!

Hes a superman rip dude. And Superman has no place on Marvel earth.

If you wanna see real creative concepts see Young Avengers and the Hood.

I hope i dont come across all hatery i just dont like Jesus cristo like super heros.

Every comic super-hero is a Superman rip in one way or another, there's no escaping it, pretty much anyone who puts on the tights is a Superman rip-off in one way or another. I've never understood that whole Sentry is bad because he's a Superman-like character, whats wrong with seeing Superman with a Marvel like characterization where he's actually interesting? Whats so wrong with that? And don't give me any of that he's too powerfull nonsense considering Silver Surfer, Thor and many other characters have much more power and fit in the MU just fine

[Camron Amaya]

Every comic super-hero is a Superman rip in one way or another, there's no escaping it, pretty much anyone who puts on the tights is a Superman rip-off in one way or another. I've never understood that whole Sentry is bad because he's a Superman-like character, whats wrong with seeing Superman with a Marvel like characterization where he's actually interesting? Whats so wrong with that? And don't give me any of that he's too powerfull nonsense considering Silver Surfer, Thor and many other characters have much more power and fit in the MU just fine

They fit better though becuz their positions actualy suit their power levels. Thor is a God from a extradimensional place called Asgard, Silver Surfer is Galactuses most powerful herald, both of them been from one end to the other of the universe.

Sentry drank a potion, and he never leaves the Earth.

I'm not saying he can't fit but just saying at least their power levels fit and are explained better.

[GalactaSurfer]

They fit better though becuz their positions actualy suit their power levels. Thor is a God from a extradimensional place called Asgard, Silver Surfer is Galactuses most powerful herald, both of them been from one end to the other of the universe.

Sentry drank a potion, and he never leaves the Earth.

I'm not saying he can't fit but just saying at least their power levels fit and are explained better.

And that makes me puke! Thats the part of the character thats really absurd. Like Superman his powers dont really fit his origin -imo. (apologies to Supes fans out there)

I Just want them to retcon is orgin and make him an Eternal/Deviant hybrid.
That would be cool and it would give the character some direction.

[XPac]

And that makes me puke! Thats the part of the character thats really absurd. Like Superman his powers dont really fit his origin -imo. (apologies to Supes fans out there)

I Just want them to retcon is orgin and make him an Eternal/Deviant hybrid.
That would be cool and it would give the character some direction.

The thing is though, the original concept for Sentry was that he was suppossed to be a forgotten pre-FF character Stan Lee created (even though he really wasn't). And at the time Stan Lee was creating heroes, getting your powers from a secret potion wasn't all that absurd.

I definately think that given the confusion of the characters exact origin, there's plenty of room to play with that down the line.

[Trey]

Reading this thread, I want to be thrown into the sun!

Seriously, the Sentry hate comes from the forced origin. And Thor fans (me) really,really,really, fly into a blind rage at his mention. He came around when Thor and Asgard dissappeared. The series was cancelled!! Sentry became the new Big hitter.

There was very little follow up to the missing Thor. Not even a mention in the Cap title or IM and barely a mention in New Avengers.

The hate is strong.

That said, I do find Sentry interesting and would like to see a good writer handle him. My hate for him has gone down after reading a few story with him in it.

[themanwiththehair]

They fit better though becuz their positions actualy suit their power levels. Thor is a God from a extradimensional place called Asgard, Silver Surfer is Galactuses most powerful herald, both of them been from one end to the other of the universe.

Sentry drank a potion, and he never leaves the Earth.

I'm not saying he can't fit but just saying at least their power levels fit and are explained better.

I think the Sentry is a good character with a bundle of potential, i also liked the way he was introduced (gotta come into existence somehow:P). However, yea i totally agree, the story behind his powers is just godawful.....doesnt he remind anyone of Bananaman? Or is that just me? "When billy eats a banana a wonderful thing occurs...."

[Shyft]

Reading this thread, I want to be thrown into the sun!

Seriously, the Sentry hate comes from the forced origin. And Thor fans (me) really,really,really, fly into a blind rage at his mention. He came around when Thor and Asgard dissappeared. The series was cancelled!! Sentry became the new Big hitter.

There was very little follow up to the missing Thor. Not even a mention in the Cap title or IM and barely a mention in New Avengers.

The hate is strong.

That said, I do find Sentry interesting and would like to see a good writer handle him. My hate for him has gone down after reading a few story with him in it.

how is any of that stuff the Sentry's fault?

[Trey]

how is any of that stuff the Sentry's fault?

Read my post again. I didn't post blame on anyone. Maybe the writer's a bit. I now find the Sentry has potential for real good stories.

[tkitna]

I've been reading Marvel comics since the early 70's and the Sentry has become my favorite hero. I think its interesting that he's far from perfect like Superman. As a matter of fact, I think thats the reason Superman grates on my nerves. The ultimate boyscout. Heck, even in the new JLA, the Black Lighting says to Superman that he was concerned because he HAS actually lost a few times. Superman looked at him and said, "Well that makes one of us". Who the hell wants a perfect superhero? With a decent writer, the Sentry could be a heck of a good time if everyone would just give it a chance.

As for the Sentry being a lame concept, wasnt Thor just borrowed from Norse mythology? How original was that?

[mikekerr3]

Every comic super-hero is a Superman rip in one way or another, there's no escaping it, pretty much anyone who puts on the tights is a Superman rip-off in one way or another. I've never understood that whole Sentry is bad because he's a Superman-like character, whats wrong with seeing Superman with a Marvel like characterization where he's actually interesting? Whats so wrong with that? And don't give me any of that he's too powerfull nonsense considering Silver Surfer, Thor and many other characters have much more power and fit in the MU just fine

Superman was a rip of a story by Philip Wylie.

[million_suns]

I never got how Marvel fans could complain about origin stories.

Spidey: Radiotactive sipder.
Hulk: Gamma radiation.
FF: Cosmic radiation.
X-Men: Mutants. And the prime culprit, besides incest, for causing mutations to occur? Yup. Radiation.

Captain America drinks a formula to boost human potential, and becomes an all time great. People love him.

A troubled teenager drinks a super-modified, exponentially saturated version of it, and becomes something else entirely, and the hatred begins?

Bob gets a lot of hate for being a teen junkie, yet Wolverine is a confirmed serial killer (Was he right to be? Was he wrong? Opinion).

Nobody complains about any other new-ish characters. X-23? Nah. No threat to Wolverine, because she's a hooker who gets us hot with revealing cleavage shots. Runaways? The O.C for the comic book generation. Not a threat to the tried and tested Marvel hierarchy.

It seems that if the House of Ideas dares to invent a new hard hitter, no matter how contrived their origin, that the Marvel old guard of readers will immediately conspire among themselves to assure each other that said new character isn't worthy of his/her status, and thus musat be consigned to endless hate on as many public forums as possible.

Guess what. Even though his effort was in vain? Sentry put out enough energy to hurt the most powerful version of the Hulk. A Hulk who has survived Solar trauma in the past with no real consequences.
Guess what. Sentry was well on his way to tearing the head off of the "new and improved" Ultron (The writer's words, vetted by the House of Ideas no less).

Ah hell. What does it matter. Sentry is the John Cena of comics to you people. If he loses out in battles, you people gloat. When he pulls feats worthy of his status (See Terrax), you people call it bad writing, whilst in the same breath reading WWH#5, and claiming that Hulk owned Sentry. What comic were you reading? Hulk talked Sentry down, then KO'd Bob once they'd both reverted.

Still. This is just setting myself up for much more of a flaming than I could imagine. Enough of a flaming to destroy a least a whole city block. Dig it?


For the record, Sentry is ONE of my favourite characters, including Avengers/Infinity Thor, Dr Doom, Iron Man (He was right!), Nova, MAX Punisher, Silver Surfer, Future Imperfect Hulk, Squadron Supreme's Hyperion and Nighthawk - not to mention Caps Marvel and America

It just grates on me how much hatred the guy gets from people.

[Will.S]

I never got how Marvel fans could complain about origin stories.

Spidey: Radiotactive sipder.
Hulk: Gamma radiation.
FF: Cosmic radiation.
X-Men: Mutants. And the prime culprit, besides incest, for causing mutations to occur? Yup. Radiation.

Captain America drinks a formula to boost human potential, and becomes an all time great. People love him.

A troubled teenager drinks a super-modified, exponentially saturated version of it, and becomes something else entirely, and the hatred begins?

Bob gets a lot of hate for being a teen junkie, yet Wolverine is a confirmed serial killer (Was he right to be? Was he wrong? Opinion).

Nobody complains about any other new-ish characters. X-23? Nah. No threat to Wolverine, because she's a hooker who gets us hot with revealing cleavage shots. Runaways? The O.C for the comic book generation. Not a threat to the tried and tested Marvel hierarchy.

It seems that if the House of Ideas dares to invent a new hard hitter, no matter how contrived their origin, that the Marvel old guard of readers will immediately conspire among themselves to assure each other that said new character isn't worthy of his/her status, and thus musat be consigned to endless hate on as many public forums as possible.

Guess what. Even though his effort was in vain? Sentry put out enough energy to hurt the most powerful version of the Hulk. A Hulk who has survived Solar trauma in the past with no real consequences.
Guess what. Sentry was well on his way to tearing the head off of the "new and improved" Ultron (The writer's words, vetted by the House of Ideas no less).

Ah hell. What does it matter. Sentry is the John Cena of comics to you people. If he loses out in battles, you people gloat. When he pulls feats worthy of his status (See Terrax), you people call it bad writing, whilst in the same breath reading WWH#5, and claiming that Hulk owned Sentry. What comic were you reading? Hulk talked Sentry down, then KO'd Bob once they'd both reverted.

Still. This is just setting myself up for much more of a flaming than I could imagine. Enough of a flaming to destroy a least a whole city block. Dig it?


For the record, Sentry is ONE of my favourite characters, including Avengers/Infinity Thor, Dr Doom, Iron Man (He was right!), Nova, MAX Punisher, Silver Surfer, Future Imperfect Hulk, Squadron Supreme's Hyperion and Nighthawk - not to mention Caps Marvel and America

It just grates on me how much hatred the guy gets from people.
What it basically comes down to is you can't please everyone.

[DocCook]

It's marvel's thing though to steal concepts, then tweek them. The Original Superman concept was incredibly similar to Captain America in their power sets (sans shield, where Supes is invulnerable) So, DC made him a true SUPERman.

Marvel Just decided to do it again with the Sentry, I don't know his story much, but outside looking in, He's like a giant fence-sitter. He doesn't seem to want to get involved. And as neither a Hulk fan or a Sentry Fan, I still say Sentry got Pwned in WWH. Sentry's strength wasn't enough, so he used that strange calming thing on Hulk, WWH version is smart enough to know that game and just out thought Sentry.

[mikekerr3]

So the desires of long time marvel fans should supercede those of ALL marvel fans, new, fairly new (5-10 years), faithful, and casual alike? it doesn't matter that the minis sold well and he has loyal fans? it doesn't surprise me that you got that reaction at WW philly. many of your "supporters" were probably hardcore DC fans who saw this as an opportunity to protect the sanctity of superman. others likely only have a fleeting familiarity with the character and a knee jerk reaction. it's sad that their is so much resistance to one of the most creative concepts in years.

A mentally unstable Superman-clone is one of the most creative concepts in years. For the sentry to be any more like Superman in nead of lithium there would have to be a DC on the cover.

I like the Sentry, I like his restraint but he should be used sparingly.

he is as inovative as the multiple spider women,

[DocCook]

A mentally unstable Superman-clone is one of the most creative concepts in years. For the sentry to be any more like Superman in nead of lithium there would have to be a DC on the cover.

I like the Sentry, I like his restraint but he should be used sparingly.

he is as inovative as the multiple spider women,

The only thing I can't stand about him is that even Supes gets beat. Sentry comes in outta nowhere and everyone wants him to beat down Gods, just because that god beat down someones favorite character. 40 years of historical kicka$$ery beats a few years of crap clonery imho.

[Jmacq1]

The only thing I can't stand about him is that even Supes gets beat. Sentry comes in outta nowhere and everyone wants him to beat down Gods, just because that god beat down someones favorite character. 40 years of historical kicka$$ery beats a few years of crap clonery imho.

Pre-freakin'-cisely.

I can't help but laugh when people talk about the power levels Sentry "deserves." What exactly has Sentry done to "deserve" anything? He's a basket-case Superman with a couple mini-series and a few dozen issues besides. A former junkie with the power of a "god." How deserving.

Most characters at his supposed level of power either leave Earth or are revealed as the plot devices they are and shuffled off into limbo or killed.

But it isn't even Sentry's power levels that bother me the most, it's his character. He's written as so much of a basket case that there's absolutely nothing relatable or likeable about the character. He just comes across as generally pathetic, at least until a writer wants to throw a plot device at a powerful foe.

The sooner he's done away with (one way or another), the better, IMO.

[Shyft]

Pre-freakin'-cisely.

I can't help but laugh when people talk about the power levels Sentry "deserves." What exactly has Sentry done to "deserve" anything? He's a basket-case Superman with a couple mini-series and a few dozen issues besides. A former junkie with the power of a "god." How deserving.

Most characters at his supposed level of power either leave Earth or are revealed as the plot devices they are and shuffled off into limbo or killed.

But it isn't even Sentry's power levels that bother me the most, it's his character. He's written as so much of a basket case that there's absolutely nothing relatable or likeable about the character. He just comes across as generally pathetic, at least until a writer wants to throw a plot device at a powerful foe.

The sooner he's done away with (one way or another), the better, IMO.

Thor and Hulk have managed to stay on Earth pretty easily. And why does a character need history to deserve good fights and stories? Marvel comics arent some sort of old-mans club where the oldest character gets to pull rank.

[TuPeT]

I Think Thor x Sentry would be a fenomenal fight, at least until Thor throw the first punch or hammer. :D

The Asgardian will show who's the real Blondy of Marvel!! :D

[bd2999]

Not sure of my feelings on Sentry. I thought he was alright in his original mini, because it sort of happened and was like a cool what if type of story. Not sure I like the fact that he is in the MU now. I find the character to have potential, but he has not come close to reaching it.

The mental illness aspect is interesting, but has been used more of a ploy or an excuse to keep him out of events until the very end or not at all (WWH and CW). His power levels are incredible, but at the same time are fluctuating in the same way Gladiators do. One minute he can beat a guy like Terrax with relative ease or pawn IM physically, the next he can't really hurt Hulk and even though he is super ticked he cannot beat Ultron right away. And how he has been used is very dull, especially in the last MA arc. A guy like Thor often showed up to bail the Avengers out but he alone did not win the day, he just turned the tide with his power and the others helped win it. With Sentry, Doom was beating everyone and Sentry just won the fight. In principal if a guy is that powerful there is no point for the rest of the time.

The unreliability aspect has not been played right really. I admitt to not being a fan of him being thrust in on us and often get annoyed when Sentry fans talk about vast untapped power he has. Not saying it is not true, but to date, aside from WWH, he has done nothing but hit things hard. Mostly that is what it takes to get the job done, but it is nothing special. This makes the superman clone comparison worse for him.

Could he hold an ongoing is the question more than anything else. I know the character has a loyal small fan base, as about every character does, but many Marvel fans are slow to embrace the character. I can see minis doing fine, and I thought there was talk of another one to tell the last part of the Sentry story that Jenkins had planed. I would like to see minis with him in the future though. I still think a character like this does not belong on Earth though, he will only be second fiddle or out of everything all of the time. He belongs in the cosmic world. Not in the ranks of a guy like Galactus but running around out there doing stuff. Not to mention in the depths of space he could be as much a hero as a villan and so on. He would find people out there who would be able to beat him around too. I would love to see Mephisto getting his hands in him.