View Full Version : Marvel.com's Top Ten Heroes of 2007
Ben Morse
12-31-2007, 11:19 PM
Well, with the early reaction to our Top Ten Villains, I'm sure this list will get some people talking...enjoy. :)
http://www.marvel.com/news/.2150.Take_Ten%3A_Top_Heroes_of_2007
Fatguy
12-31-2007, 11:21 PM
I really like the list, actually. Except Emma...that makes zero sense to me.
Diablito
12-31-2007, 11:28 PM
This was a really great list, and shoe horns that Iron Man is not the villain everyone thought he was. The only things wrong are that Captain America is too low, while Winter Soldier is too high on the list.
Apex Tech
12-31-2007, 11:33 PM
Nova is 4? Should be 2, at least.
DaeJi
12-31-2007, 11:40 PM
Emma Frost? Uh, no. Ms. Marvel, She-Hulk, Iron Fist, Quasar, Starlord, Mercury, Songbird, or hell, even Black Panther belong on that list way before she does.
Fatguy
12-31-2007, 11:42 PM
Emma Frost? Uh, no. Ms. Marvel, She-Hulk, Iron Fist, Quasar, Starlord, Mercury, Songbird, or hell, even Black Panther belong on that list way before she does.
Gah, yea, Iron Fist should DEFINITELY be on there in her place.
myslead
01-01-2008, 12:31 AM
it's funny how they try to shove down our throat that Iron-Man was actually the hero in CW.
worstblogever
01-01-2008, 12:38 AM
Note that Iron Man gets #1... and he has a movie out in a few months. HYPE MACHINE!
Don't ask me why Emma's at #9. I don't think she's done much at all this past year, except somehow being shown wielding more power (which isn't to say she's more powerful than) than Professor X. A lot of other X-Men have done more, and plenty of other heroes have done more, including...
Dr. Strange. Hell, Strangey-Poo has held together the New Avengers, fought Skrulls, got a new girlfriend, gone toe to toe with the Hood, fought the Warbound Hulk with Zom in him, and kept the N.A. hidden right under Stark and SHIELD's fascist noses.
My big surprise, though, is that Wolverine is nowhere on this list. Not that I think he deserves to be for anything but finally offing Sabretooth, but Marvel shoves him down our throats more than anybody.
Brad Barton
01-01-2008, 01:50 AM
How the hell is Hulk not on that list in the year of both "Planet Hulk" and "World War Hulk"?
And Iron Man as #1?...ugh. I'll rejoice the day the Comic world stops sucking Tony Stark's d--k.
GozertheGozarian
01-01-2008, 03:08 AM
Too much X and Civil War wanking to be an accurate list.
Emma hurrah, and cyke totaly deserves his spot.
Nova3333
01-01-2008, 03:14 AM
Nova is 4? Should be 2, at least.
I'm happy that he's on the list Period! Just shows how much has happened to the kid who got struck by an energy beam while sipping a sundie at Uncle Fudge's Ice Cream Parlour. One minute a looser, the next saving the Universe by plunging your fist down a would-be Universe destroyer! Now it can be rightly said that Rich Rider is a now a bona-fide Marvel legend!
Of course the downside is that Iron Man got top stop! And Captain America made it at No. 7! Daz.
Oh and one more thing: HAPPY 2008!!
SquidSquod
01-01-2008, 06:43 AM
I don't know about you, but start to like Iron Man or you'll get a heart attack by the end of the year. I got a feeling that he's gonna be more lacquered this year.
Libaax
01-01-2008, 06:58 AM
Its funny to see them being so desperate to make Iron Man the big hero of CW.
He was more like a villain. I mean how many heroes got hurt or died cause of his actions and his holy mission.
Cap was the real hero of CW. Cap was way too low, should have topped the list or been top three.
Good to see Nova up there.
Spidey was for too long too much lap dog for Iron Man to be ranked so high on the list.
Holacik
01-01-2008, 07:03 AM
How the hell is Hulk not on that list in the year of both "Planet Hulk" and "World War Hulk"?
And Iron Man as #1?...ugh. I'll rejoice the day the Comic world stops sucking Tony Stark's d--k.
Considering that Iron Man was the most important figure in Civil War, weather or not you agree with his tactic or his cause, is what makes him the Hero of the Year. Plus you know there is this movie....
SquidSquod
01-01-2008, 07:17 AM
Its funny to see them being so desperate to make Iron Man the big hero of CW.
He was more like a villain. I mean how many heroes got hurt or died cause of his actions and his holy mission.
Cap was the real hero of CW. Cap was way too low, should have topped the list or been top three.
Good to see Nova up there.
Spidey was for too long too much lap dog for Iron Man to be ranked so high on the list.
Cap was last year hero. He's dead for half of the year, remember.
There will be more people got hurt if Iron Man doesn't go into action and US gov't goes by itself. Read What If? Civil War.
Alan2099
01-01-2008, 07:18 AM
Yeah, I'm not buying into that list at all. The fact that Bucky rates higher than Captain America and that Emma Frost is even on the list pretty much invalidates it to me.
40yearoldnovafan
01-01-2008, 07:34 AM
it's funny how they try to shove down our throat that Iron-Man was actually the hero in CW.
Happy New Year:
Marvel admits that Nova saves the whole freaking universe, but he only rates #4. I mean Iron Man and Luke Cage beat him out. Did any of them help save the universe? Give me a freaking break! I guess the criteria for being #4 is causing a war between heroes, hunting down friends, helping cause the death of several heroes, taking over an organization who is now hunting heroes, etc. Boy did they get this one wrong.
Jimmy
40yearoldnovafan
01-01-2008, 07:40 AM
Considering that Iron Man was the most important figure in Civil War, weather or not you agree with his tactic or his cause, is what makes him the Hero of the Year. Plus you know there is this movie....
Most important person (bad guy in my opinion) of Civil War does not make you the most important hero. He helped imprison many heroes and contributed to the death of two heroes. Maybe Cap should have been #1. I think he was a bit important during Civile War. And didn't Spiderman sacrifice his life for Civil War (Aunt's life, wife, etc)?
Tony Stark - no, don't think so.
GozertheGozarian
01-01-2008, 07:43 AM
The movie is exactly why Iron Man is hyped as the #1 hero. He certainly hasn't done anything heroic over the last year.
Libaax
01-01-2008, 08:01 AM
Most important person (bad guy in my opinion) of Civil War does not make you the most important hero. He helped imprison many heroes and contributed to the death of two heroes. Maybe Cap should have been #1. I think he was a bit important during Civile War. And didn't Spiderman sacrifice his life for Civil War (Aunt's life, wife, etc)?
Tony Stark - no, don't think so.
Well said !
Im thinking like others already said they need to hype Iron Man for his movie.
Dr. Banner
01-01-2008, 08:19 AM
Yeah, I'm not buying into that list at all. The fact that Bucky rates higher than Captain America and that Emma Frost is even on the list pretty much invalidates it to me.
Well, to be fair, Cap IS dead. Hard to do a lot of great things during the year when you're in a coffin and stuff...
Siddon
01-01-2008, 08:21 AM
Top Ten Heros
10. - Rogue
09. - Winter Soldier
08. - Doctor Strange
07. - Thing
06. - Captain America
05. - Nova
04. - Iron Man
03. - Ms Marvel
02. - Spider-man
01. - Madrox
Omega Alpha
01-01-2008, 08:25 AM
Good list, although I disagree with Emma being there- not that I am on the "oh, dear lord, Emma Frost is a bitch and a traitor that deserves to die!" wagon, but she hasn't done much in 2007. Iron Fist should be there. But I have nothing to complain about everyone else.
SquidSquod
01-01-2008, 08:55 AM
Happy New Year:
Marvel admits that Nova saves the whole freaking universe, but he only rates #4. I mean Iron Man and Luke Cage beat him out. Did any of them help save the universe? Give me a freaking break! I guess the criteria for being #4 is causing a war between heroes, hunting down friends, helping cause the death of several heroes, taking over an organization who is now hunting heroes, etc. Boy did they get this one wrong.
Jimmy
That doesn't mean anything if the character doesn't have a movie coming out. Iron Man is an A-lister, it's just Marvel presentation of making him a douche doesn't help him in the eyes of comics readers recently.
Eclips0
01-01-2008, 09:06 AM
I really like the list, actually. Except Emma...that makes zero sense to me.
She's been more of a hero over the last year then Iron Man and the reason he's on the list is to try and boost his sales and get people to look at him differently.
That doesn't mean anything if the character doesn't have a movie coming out. Iron Man is an A-lister, it's just Marvel presentation of making him a douche doesn't help him in the eyes of comics readers recently.
Well, if having a movie is critieria then Spider-Man man should have won since he had 3, the third of which broke opening day records.
SquidSquod
01-01-2008, 09:10 AM
Well, if having a movie is critieria then Spider-Man man should have won since he had 3, the third of which broke opening day records.
Well maybe in 2001/2003/2006, but does Spidey have another movie in 2008? No?
Happy New Year:
Marvel admits that Nova saves the whole freaking universe, but he only rates #4. I mean Iron Man and Luke Cage beat him out. Did any of them help save the universe? Give me a freaking break! I guess the criteria for being #4 is causing a war between heroes, hunting down friends, helping cause the death of several heroes, taking over an organization who is now hunting heroes, etc. Boy did they get this one wrong.
Jimmy
I agree. If the sole criteria for being the best hero is in fact being best hero and this isn't just a poorly disguised popularity contest then Nova got robbed here.
Well maybe in 2001/2003/2006, but does Spidey have another movie in 2008? No?
Well, then consider nominating Tony for Best Hero in 2008. I'm not sure what having a movie in 2008 has to do with choosing the best hero 2007 anyways.
If this is really a "who will have the best movie in 2008" poll, then I definately think Tony should be a top contender.
Libaax
01-01-2008, 09:23 AM
Cap was last year hero. He's dead for half of the year, remember.
There will be more people got hurt if Iron Man doesn't go into action and US gov't goes by itself. Read What If? Civil War.
Well Iron Man tops for CW and that wasnt 2007 either.
Spiderman big move was he stopped being Stark's poster boy and that was in CW too.
dabig2
01-01-2008, 09:55 AM
I find it awesome how everyone else on the list either actively opposes Stark or disproves of what he has done/is doing....yet Stark is given the #1.
"But in the end, the 50 State Initiative has proven a success and S.H.I.E.L.D. runs more efficiently than ever under Director Stark"
That's a load of bull
I find it awesome how everyone else on the list either actively opposes Stark or disproves of what he has done/is doing....yet Stark is given the #1.
"But in the end, the 50 State Initiative has proven a success and S.H.I.E.L.D. runs more efficiently than ever under Director Stark"
That's a load of bull
I DO think it's a bit of a slight for them to say that Director Stark (the guy that's sort of being removed from power in SHIELD as we speak at least in his own book, even though I'm assuming that's temporary) was better than Nick Fury.
SquidSquod
01-01-2008, 09:59 AM
Yeah, that's the problem with Marvel.
They have never said clearly that what Iron Man does is keeping away the possibility of a greater destruction. Call it inept story & writers management, but other than What If? there's none saying that would make Iron Man in a better light.
SquidSquod
01-01-2008, 10:09 AM
Well, then consider nominating Tony for Best Hero in 2008. I'm not sure what having a movie in 2008 has to do with choosing the best hero 2007 anyways.
If this is really a "who will have the best movie in 2008" poll, then I definately think Tony should be a top contender.
2008 is not here yet. 2007 is where all it counts.
No having a movie in 2008 doesn't mean nothing if you don't have anything to show in 2007. But Marvel has shown for all its intention and purposes to make Iron Man a central figure in Marvel Universe. Way to market the guy for next year movie? Perhaps, since Iron Man is a not as famous as Spidey or Wolverine. Heck if there's movie on Spidey next year there won't be so much thing changed on Spidey, because Spidey is already famous.
BTW, 2007 is supposed to be Spidey year (basically OMD) by Joe witness in the mid of the year. Look how it fell down.
Fatguy
01-01-2008, 10:10 AM
She's been more of a hero over the last year then Iron Man and the reason he's on the list is to try and boost his sales and get people to look at him differently.
:rolleyes: Evil Joey Q, manipulating the universe through his clever use of lists.
Not that that has anything to do with whether or not Emma should be on this list. The list is supposed to be about the biggest heroes of 2007. Whether or not you think she's been more of a hero than somebody else on the list, doesnt change the fact that she's done NOTHING of note this past year. There's a long list of heroes who have been more remarkable.
SquidSquod
01-01-2008, 10:12 AM
I agree. If the sole criteria for being the best hero is in fact being best hero and this isn't just a poorly disguised popularity contest then Nova got robbed here.
Popularity things aside, the central core of the Marvel Universe is 616 Earth. Avengers, then X-Men. Cosmic characters are still periphery and unlike DC, it hasn't been able to integrate Earth and Cosmic characters seamlessly.
Kage Kisaragi
01-01-2008, 10:16 AM
Why the hell is Emma Frost up there? Even if they were looking to show some T&A, is there no one else who actually did something worthwhile available?
Nova didn't get #1? What does the dude got to do? He saved the friggin' Universe!
Other mentions:
Rogue, Starlord, Doc Strange, Layla, Cable, Beast.
Brian M.
01-01-2008, 12:35 PM
Great to see Cyclops at #3. Personally I think he should be #2, but whatever. Emma Frost is a joke.
Nightstar1441
01-01-2008, 12:52 PM
Nova didn't get #1? What does the dude got to do? He saved the friggin' Universe!
So agree...suprised Hulk did not make the list though and I gotta say Iron Man #1 with his movie coming out is a too much a coincidence
Ben Morse
01-01-2008, 02:51 PM
So agree...suprised Hulk did not make the list though and I gotta say Iron Man #1 with his movie coming out is a too much a coincidence
Y'know, Hulk's got a movie coming out too...just sayin'...;)
Karl H
01-01-2008, 02:52 PM
You guys are taking this thing FAR too seriously.
Popularity things aside, the central core of the Marvel Universe is 616 Earth. Avengers, then X-Men. Cosmic characters are still periphery and unlike DC, it hasn't been able to integrate Earth and Cosmic characters seamlessly.
If that's the criteria then it's not really a question of heroism. It's a question of which characters are more mainstream.
If the question is who showed more heroism, the winner is Nova. If the question is who is the more mainstream character, then Iron Man is definately ahead of Nova and should have won.
It's just a shame marvel would put such a misleading and innaccurate title on the list when clearly heroism isn't what's important.
DMike
01-01-2008, 04:42 PM
While Cap's book has been good all year, the man's been dead since like February or March, so it's no real surprise that he's not higher on the list (plus I think he won last year anyway, so he already got his props). Bucky actually makes sense being where he is for that reason.
As for the Hulk... eh, he did lead an alien invasion force upon the Earth as part of a revenge scheme, threaten to destroy New York if his demands weren't met, and almost accidentally destroy the planet by the end of WWH. If anything, 2007 was the year the Hulk practically became the monster everyone mistakenly thought him to be, so it's no real surprise that he's not on the list at all.
PunisherFan
01-01-2008, 04:49 PM
How is Luke Cage even on that list? Am I the only one not into him? And where is Daredevil on that list? And after One More Day I really don't think Spider-Man should be anywhere near that list
SquidSquod
01-01-2008, 05:08 PM
If that's the criteria then it's not really a question of heroism. It's a question of which characters are more mainstream.
If the question is who showed more heroism, the winner is Nova. If the question is who is the more mainstream character, then Iron Man is definately ahead of Nova and should have won.
It's just a shame marvel would put such a misleading and innaccurate title on the list when clearly heroism isn't what's important.
Well heroism is a matter of opinion. Marvel think (hopefully with all their secrecy of knowing something we don't for 2008) that Iron Man is more heroic and does more helping people than Nova.
Again, if the criterion is just which hero is more mainstream, then the Satan-dealing Spidey is top of the list.
Well heroism is a matter of opinion. Marvel think (hopefully with all their secrecy of knowing something we don't for 2008) that Iron Man is more heroic and does more helping people than Nova.
Nova saved the universe. Is it even possible to be more helpful than that?
StoneGold
01-01-2008, 06:39 PM
Nova saved the universe. Is it even possible to be more helpful than that?
Yeah, he could have saved Quasar.
Kage Kisaragi
01-01-2008, 06:39 PM
How is Luke Cage even on that list? Am I the only one not into him? And where is Daredevil on that list? And after One More Day I really don't think Spider-Man should be anywhere near that list
I think you're all alone when it comes to Luke Cage. Actually many would argue its about time. Don't think of history and popularity, just think of which books are currently the most important and then pick the most important characters in those books and thats how they got the top 10.
Alan2099
01-01-2008, 06:50 PM
I like Luke Cage. That guy Bendis writes? Too bland to be Luke Cage. I can't see anything of the character I used to like in that guy. Guy doesn't even wear a costume. It's just generic black man.
You guys are taking this thing FAR too seriously.
Or you may be taking US far too seriously (at least me, I could care less about this kind of stuff).
SquidSquod
01-01-2008, 07:42 PM
Nova saved the universe. Is it even possible to be more helpful than that?
A comic universe doesn't exactly work like the real one.
+ Most of Annihilation is in 2006.
GrandMaster Funk
01-01-2008, 07:48 PM
I don't really understand Emma's inclusion on the list, I probably would've had Madrox up higher, and the list was lacking Iron Fist.
DasPoppen
01-01-2008, 08:23 PM
Swap Emma for Rogue, add Herc, and put Nova on top - then the list is fine.
A comic universe doesn't exactly work like the real one.
+ Most of Annihilation is in 2006.
Yeah, but Nova actually saved the universe in 2007. It outright mentions it on Nova's entry.
We'll have to agree to disagree about Nova act of saving the freaking universe. He was doing that while other heroes were busy fighting each other and even endangering lives. To me that deserves a lot more than 4 place. Maybe we're seeing a disconnect between what marvel views as a hero.
SquidSquod
01-01-2008, 09:52 PM
Yeah, but Nova actually saved the universe in 2007. It outright mentions it on Nova's entry.
We'll have to agree to disagree about Nova act of saving the freaking universe. He was doing that while other heroes were busy fighting each other and even endangering lives. To me that deserves a lot more than 4 place. Maybe we're seeing a disconnect between what marvel views as a hero.
Marvel is a business entity.
If it has in its lineup a hero that does something (by opinion) + has a movie coming out, it will pick that hero over a hero that does something better (by opinion).
It should be noted too that Iron Man is in mainstream comics (CW, WWH, Avengers) that sell better than Cosmic comics. More people know Iron Man and talk about him whether pro or con.
Marvel is a business entity.
If it has in its lineup a hero that does something (by opinion) + has a movie coming out, it will pick that hero over a hero that does something better (by opinion).
It should be noted too that Iron Man is in mainstream comics (CW, WWH, Avengers) that sell better than Cosmic comics. More people know Iron Man and talk about him whether pro or con.
Well, if that's the critieria for being number one then like I said, it's not a hero poll. Selling books and making movies does not equal heroism. If that's what this poll was REALLY about, then Spidey was robbed rather than Nova for the top spot.
SquidSquod
01-01-2008, 10:18 PM
Well, if that's the critieria for being number one then like I said, it's not a hero poll. Selling books and making movies does not equal heroism. If that's what this poll was REALLY about, then Spidey was robbed rather than Nova for the top spot.
Well Spidey is supposed to get the top spot, but his dealing with the devil at the end of the year lower his spot, fearing a backlash from conservatives.
:D
Seriously, it's a balance between popularism and heroism. Nova can be said to be heroic, but a significant number of marvel readers don't read and buy Annihilation comics. It's not their fault for not getting the heroism of Nova, because they don't know what Nova has done.
Drdmx
01-01-2008, 10:22 PM
Iron Fist is definitely a need on the list. Can't believe he didnt make it considering....
Cant put Hulk on a list of heroes, never saved a kitten in his life.
Take the Iron Man plugs with a grain of salt. To be frank, even though I like RDJ, that movie looks ridiculously horrible. How about that soundtrack at the end of the preview? "I AM IRON MAN!"... Mortal Kombat Nostalgia in full effect.
SquidSquod
01-01-2008, 10:26 PM
Take the Iron Man plugs with a grain of salt. To be frank, even though I like RDJ, that movie looks ridiculously horrible. How about that soundtrack at the end of the preview? "I AM IRON MAN!"... Mortal Kombat Nostalgia in full effect.
Can't blame Marvel (Studios) for the Freshman effort. ;)
Drdmx
01-01-2008, 10:30 PM
The movie seems to try and take so much away from Batman Returns. Granted its his basic origin that Tony was rich, captured, developed the armor, and developed his responsibility.
To be honst though, I dont like the way RDJ is having to depict Tony. I dont want to see him cracking jokes, I want to see him as a bastard. I thought whoever wrote him in Heroes Reborn did an awesome job with the Stark character, when he was more of just a Scrooge. Remember when Pepper Potts chewed him out?
"...and Pepper, just so we're clear.... you're fired". Classic.
SquidSquod
01-01-2008, 10:43 PM
If succesful, the movie definition of Stark may actually influence the comics to come. So it's just not a douche without a cause, it's actually the douche with a cause and can make jokes here and there.
StoneGold
01-02-2008, 12:16 AM
Iron Fist is definitely a need on the list. Can't believe he didnt make it considering....
Cant put Hulk on a list of heroes, never saved a kitten in his life.
Take the Iron Man plugs with a grain of salt. To be frank, even though I like RDJ, that movie looks ridiculously horrible. How about that soundtrack at the end of the preview? "I AM IRON MAN!"... Mortal Kombat Nostalgia in full effect.
For not recognizing the greatness of Black Sabbath, you lose at life.
And by that, I mean Tommy Iommi will go to your house and kill you.
40yearoldnovafan
01-02-2008, 10:06 AM
Yeah, but Nova actually saved the universe in 2007. It outright mentions it on Nova's entry.
We'll have to agree to disagree about Nova act of saving the freaking universe. He was doing that while other heroes were busy fighting each other and even endangering lives. To me that deserves a lot more than 4 place. Maybe we're seeing a disconnect between what marvel views as a hero.
Nuff Said!!
rwsmith
01-02-2008, 11:17 AM
Good list, although I disagree with Emma being there- not that I am on the "oh, dear lord, Emma Frost is a bitch and a traitor that deserves to die!" wagon, but she hasn't done much in 2007. Iron Fist should be there. But I have nothing to complain about everyone else.
Iron Fist, Cable and the Hulk all should've been on there before Emma Frost IMO, as she really hasn't done anything all that noteworthy in '07.
azuman
01-02-2008, 12:11 PM
iron man?,emma frost??,WINTER SOLDIER??? and this madrox dude:eek:
what's happening?!
can i just ask in 2005 did hawkeye make the list for sacrificing himself against the kree?:confused:
if he didn't:mad:
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