Kevin 11 Vs Aang

[Holacik]

Kevin 11(ben 10)

Vs

Aang(Avatar the last airbender)

Standard arena match.

[maczero]

Hard one. I'm leaning toward Aang.

[mud]

how fast was big and ugly(kevin) agin?

[maczero]

how fast was big and ugly(kevin) agin?Supposedly his powers are 1/10th Ben's abilities. So Kevin's top speed would be 1/10th XLR8's speed.

[Basara]

And Kevin isn't very smart. He likes to overpower his foes and is easy to anger.

Aang is extremely elusive and loves to goad his opponents. I see Kevin easily losing control here. And then there is the Avatar state, which Kevin will have no defense for.

[master of read]

gotta agree with basara. kevin wasnt exactly a genius. i mean, he needed me to tell him how to combine powers.

aang's too smart and fast for kevin to deal with.

[Holacik]

gotta agree with basara. kevin wasnt exactly a genius. i mean, he needed me to tell him how to combine powers.

aang's too smart and fast for kevin to deal with.

I'm leaning towards Aang, but thanks to Ben 10 he has a few tricks up his sleeve, such as stinkfly spit/heatblast, and accerlerate speed/fourarm's strength and Diamond heads fist. It's possible that if Kev starts off using accelerate's speed he could blitz Aang, if Aang avoid it though he will easily frustrate kevin to the point where he leave himself opened to get crushed.

[master of read]

I'm leaning towards Aang, but thanks to Ben 10 he has a few tricks up his sleeve, such as stinkfly spit/heatblast, and accerlerate speed/fourarm's strength and Diamond heads fist. It's possible that if Kev starts off using accelerate's speed he could blitz Aang, if Aang avoid it though he will easily frustrate kevin to the point where he leave himself opened to get crushed.

that's right. ben would do that. but not kevin. kevin just relies on his brute force. he's really only used his powers smartly when ben told him how. otherwise, he's barely smarter than the hulk.

[Holacik]

that's right. ben would do that. but not kevin. kevin just relies on his brute force. he's really only used his powers smartly when ben told him how. otherwise, he's barely smarter than the hulk.

He has used those tricks after Ben told him, but he is way too dumb to figure any on his own, which is strange considering he should have 1/10 of Grey Matters brains. Maybe he has to activate it or something....

[master of read]

He has used those tricks after Ben told him, but he is way too dumb to figure any on his own, which is strange considering he should have 1/10 of Grey Matters brains. Maybe he has to activate it or something....

he could but still, kevin is just too dumb to really use his power wisely. but now that i think about it, ben must be pretty smart himself. beening able to control and master all those forms easily, especially with the master code.

[Holacik]

he could but still, kevin is just too dumb to really use his power wisely. but now that i think about it, ben must be pretty smart himself. beening able to control and master all those forms easily, especially with the master code.

Did he get the master code? I thought he still didn't have it.

[Sun Wukong]

Did he get the master code? I thought he still didn't have it.

keeps gettin it then losing it again

[Holacik]

keeps gettin it then losing it again

I only remember him having it when he fought Kevin 11 and Vilgax, and he did a damn good job on them with it.

[maczero]

I only remember him having it when he fought Kevin 11 and Vilgax, and he did a damn good job on them with it.It's assumed future Ben regains it since he changes between forms instantaneously.

[Holacik]

It's assumed future Ben regains it since he changes between forms instantaneously.

Yeah future ben (Ben 10,000) does have it. I meant now, current Ben doesn't.

[Basara]

I only remember him having it when he fought Kevin 11 and Vilgax, and he did a damn good job on them with it.

Yeah, that was, IIRC, the first time that Ben actually figured out the Master Code. He wiped it from the Omnitrix to keep Vilgax from using it when he bargained it for Gwen.

[Z-man]

He has used those tricks after Ben told him, but he is way too dumb to figure any on his own, which is strange considering he should have 1/10 of Grey Matters brains. Maybe he has to activate it or something....

I actually asked the creators this question in San Diego. Kevin got one of Greymatter's rarely seen other powers instead of intelligence

[Holacik]

I actually asked the creators this question in San Diego. Kevin got one of Greymatter's rarely seen other powers instead of intelligence

Okay, what is it? Or did they not say?

[maczero]

He has used those tricks after Ben told him, but he is way too dumb to figure any on his own, which is strange considering he should have 1/10 of Grey Matters brains. Maybe he has to activate it or something....I'd like to think that Grey Matter is more of a technical genius. That wouldn't necessarily make him a great strategist. Think of how many highly educated folks lack common sense.

[Holacik]

I'd like to think that Grey Matter is more of a technical genius. That wouldn't necessarily make him a great strategist. Think of how many highly educated folks lack common sense.
he still hasn't used it though, or upgrades ability(of course he's is probably harder to use) but either would have been handy to use when they we're both captured on the alien gladiator ship, and good old reliable Kevin always used the brawn and never considered the brains.

[Z-man]

Okay, what is it? Or did they not say?

Well, not only has Kevin not used it, but Ben has barely used it, either. telekinesis

[Holacik]

Well, not only has Kevin not used it, but Ben has barely used it, either. telekinesis

Well that's interesting, hopefully it comes up soon. Of course the creator of the omniatrix a grey matter also hadn't utilized it either. Well Kevin probably has a host of abilites he just doesn't use either through sheer stupidity(just relieing on strength) or just ignorance(he might simply not know he has them). Still doesn't help him here.

[Demon King Psycho]

Wasn't it mentioned Kev can't use Ghostfreak's or Upgrade's powers cause that requires that his entire body has those powers all at once?

[Holacik]

Wasn't it mentioned Kev can't use Ghostfreak's or Upgrade's powers cause that requires that his entire body has those powers all at once?
I'm not sure, but I don't see why. He still can make Diamond blade, and has both of stinkfly's ability(Flying/the goo spit) It just doesn't make a whole lot of sense that he can't at least partially use Ghostfreak and Upgrade. Does he even know what Ghostfreaks ability at all? If he doesn't then it would make sense why he hasn't used it. Of course considering that Ghost freak is sentiant in the watch, is it possible for ghost freak to take over Kevin?

[Z-man]

I'm not sure, but I don't see why. He still can make Diamond blade, and has both of stinkfly's ability(Flying/the goo spit) It just doesn't make a whole lot of sense that he can't at least partially use Ghostfreak and Upgrade. Does he even know what Ghostfreaks ability at all? If he doesn't then it would make sense why he hasn't used it. Of course considering that Ghost freak is sentiant in the watch, is it possible for ghost freak to take over Kevin?

This was my key question for the creators. I can answer this question as well, but it is, in fact, a HUGE spoiler. Let's just say that Ghostfreak and Kevin's relationship is a big deal and will be addressed soon, although I don't know if it'll happen this season or the next series.

[Demon King Psycho]

He still can make Diamond blade
Yea, out of Diamondhead's arm though. Upgrade's power requires his entire body, not just his shoulders, to be of that strange organic metal. Same for all of Ghostfreak's powers except maybe invisibility, maybe.