Thor #5 *Spoilers*

[Trey]

Quick Summary


Heimdall shows Thor an area out west where he senses Asgardians.
Thor flies off alone and enters what looks like to be an abandoned military test site or base. Inside he finds human hosts imprisoned in cells. Thor is not happy. Down the hall someone or thing approaches......The Destroyer!!!!

Massive throw down underground between the 2.

Thor takes the fight outside to gain the advantage and spare the human hosts.

The Destoyer calls Thor the destroyer...Thor flies up and unleashes his power to all those below, releasing the Asgardians...and releasing the one in the Destroyer...Balder the Brave!!!!

All the Asgardians leave, except for one.......Loki, who is now a woman in this incarnation.

It is revealed that Loki tricked Thor into freeing all the Asgardians, both good and evil, who now walk the Earth!! But who helped Loki? wasn't he in the Void , just like Thor? Dr. Doom!!!

Finally, JMS puts events into motion. Thor will have some cleaning up to do, when Frost Giants show up in the Rockies!! And as always stellar art.

[Camron Amaya]

I must say genius way to trick him into releasing them all, in the heat of battle when he had no choice. Never saw the Doom thing coming.

Damn..what's gonna happen with all those Asgardian creatures walking the Earth. Giants, Hela, trolls, and even the Midgard Serpent is back.

It shows a glowing face talking to Doom...what if it wasn't Loki?

EDIT: Nevermind I just read it again and he clearly says "my brother...".

[disulz]

Man, Doom has his hands on everything these days. Good issue.

[Toboe]

Interesting issue. Loki as a woman is a fantastic twist, and his plan to trick Thor into releasing everyone was well conceived.

I didn't see Doom coming for sure. Looks like he will be a big figure next year, he's getting involved everywhere.

[Expletive Deleted]

Loki as a woman is a fantastic twist.How so? It seems kind of pointless to me.

[CMBMOOL]

With alliances with Loki and Namor and, if possible, the Black Panther and the Inhumans. I make you wonder what is Dr. Doom planning ? :(

Especially with his upcoming apperance in Mighty Avengers and his recent apperance in Captain America, it makes you wonder what is Dr. Doom Planning ? :(

Just what is the tin headed monarch planning that is so coniving that even the FF couldn't stop him this time. :(

What do you all think of this ? :(

[Camron Amaya]

With alliances with Loki and Namor and, if possible, the Black Panther and the Inhumans. I make you wonder what is Dr. Doom planning ? :(

Especially with his upcoming apperance in Mighty Avengers and his recent apperance in Captain America, it makes you wonder what is Dr. Doom Planning ? :(

Just what is the tin headed monarch planning that is so coniving that even the FF couldn't stop him this time. :(

What do you all think of this ? :(

I swear Marvel has an amazing opportunity here for a gigantic and great story but I honestly think thye'll just waste it.

This could be the mother of all conflicts/schemes....if done right.

[Red Lotus]

It is revealed that Loki tricked Thor into freeing all the Asgardians, both good and evil, who now walk the Earth!! But who helped Loki? wasn't he in the Void , just like Thor? Dr. Doom!!!
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You just said the magic words to make me get this issue.

[thronzeblast]

Correct me if I am wrong but should thor be able to block the destroyes beam with his hammer and them actually get hit with it and be completely fine..

[Camron Amaya]

Correct me if I am wrong but should thor be able to block the destroyes beam with his hammer and them actually get hit with it and be completely fine..

Before they described the beam as "powerfull enough to destroy almost anything..", but Thor seems stronger then ever too. Most likely cuz of whatevers left of the Odinforce in him. The hammer is a creation of Odin and so is the Destroyer so it's possible fo the hammer to block it too. Plus maybe Balder being in it had something to do with it..

[chrismileslord]

Another excellent issue. If they don't go somewhere with the Doom plot and make it into a crossover, I will be highly dissappointed.

[Omega the Unknown]

loki as a woman, meh. reminds me of universe x where loki had tricked odin into making thor female.

but loki and doom tricking thor into releasing all those bad guys....genius.

oh, copiel's art is awesome as usual.

[Omega Alpha]

This is the greatest issue of this book so far. I never thought about Doom being involved in this at all.

I swear Marvel has an amazing opportunity here for a gigantic and great story but I honestly think thye'll just waste it.

This could be the mother of all conflicts/schemes....if done right.

Oh, yeah, definitively. I wonder if Marvel has a plan and is setting up for something in 2009, or is just writers using Doom randomly, without a plan for anything except their own books.

[genesis]

With alliances with Loki and Namor and, if possible, the Black Panther and the Inhumans. I make you wonder what is Dr. Doom planning ? :(

Especially with his upcoming apperance in Mighty Avengers and his recent apperance in Captain America, it makes you wonder what is Dr. Doom Planning ? :(

Just what is the tin headed monarch planning that is so coniving that even the FF couldn't stop him this time. :(

What do you all think of this ? :(

Dr. Doom is a skrull. Think of it this is the quickest way for marvel to have a whole universe of skrulls. SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER
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Black Bolt is a skrull so with the inhumans that is part of Doom's alliance and he'd be able to get Namor as a skrull as well as activating all of the sleeper cells. He can turn Black Panther and Storm into skrulls. As well as Penance who's power level is turning out to be amazing.
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Doom will be the leader of the skrull infestation. That or he is the one who will lead the fight against them he sees the threat and knows how to respond appropriately unlike the heroes questioning one another. The stuff he is doing is to big for it to not have an effect on Secret Invasion or knowing Marvel's style this is the basis for their '09 event.

[Psyco panda]

I'm still not quite sure what to make of this comic. Its pretty good, but i've never been a fan of the cinematic storytelling where they go pages without words. At least Thors found most of the gods so that nonsense is over with.

The art continues to be great and nice twist with Doom.

[DeadXMan]

why would Doom want the Asgardians release
Have Namor attack San Fran
and drop a venom bomb on NYC
and in 70 yrs come back to now and try to stop Reed from implementing Plan 101?

[jackolover]

Why would Doom want the Asgardians release?
Have Namor attack San Fran?
and drop a venom bomb on NYC?
and in 70 yrs come back to now and try to stop Reed from implementing Plan 101?

I haven't read a good 'Doom goes 70 years to the future, gets captured and escapes' plot in a long time. However, I'm not sure any of the above incidents are related. And you left out Doom trying to pick up Thors hammer, and Doom giving Red Skull a time machine. But Doom did oversee Namor in that storyline that saw the destruction of Atlantis, and Doom did offer a partnership with Panther during the Civil War. Now how many times did I write Doom?

[worstblogever]

Is that confirmed that the Asgardian Frost Giants will be in the Rockies? Because I have 2 great story ideas that could spawn out of that.

1) The Frost Giants learn of the existence of the Coors Brewery, and raid it for mead and Thor's gotta back it up.

2) A Thor/Thunderbolts crossover to help get rid of them. How sweet would that be?

[mikekerr3]

why would Doom want the Asgardians release
Have Namor attack San Fran
and drop a venom bomb on NYC
and in 70 yrs come back to now and try to stop Reed from implementing Plan 101?

Namor threatens San Fran he has not hurt anything yet.

I really don't think Doom sent the Venom Bomb. Not really his style. The government told Tony it came from doom , so we have no reliable sorce for that.

[Lanowar]

Dr. Doom is a skrull. Think of it this is the quickest way for marvel to have a whole universe of skrulls. SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER
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Black Bolt is a skrull so with the inhumans that is part of Doom's alliance and he'd be able to get Namor as a skrull as well as activating all of the sleeper cells. He can turn Black Panther and Storm into skrulls. As well as Penance who's power level is turning out to be amazing.
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Doom will be the leader of the skrull infestation. That or he is the one who will lead the fight against them he sees the threat and knows how to respond appropriately unlike the heroes questioning one another. The stuff he is doing is to big for it to not have an effect on Secret Invasion or knowing Marvel's style this is the basis for their '09 event.


I think it's quite the reverse, Doom knows of the Skrull Infection and does'nt trust the Avengers or the Fantastic Four and is building up allies to help fight of the Skrulls since he can't rule the world if the Skrulls beat him to it.

It's cool that Doom has his fingers in so many pies I am hoping it has a payoff.

[Bulky Brent]

The Coipel cover was sort of misleading I was Expecting to see Sif but even better Loki is a female now thats a twist. It was still a great issue either way. The fight with him and the destroyer war wicked. I'm really excited that JMS is starting to pick up the pace big time.

Aside from Doom making a cameo in the book and plotting with Loki some of Thor's real good rogue gallery has been brought back(Midgard Serpent, Enchantress Frost Giants and Hela). Can't wait for next issue.

[Charlie_1981]

The Coipel cover was sort of misleading I was Expecting to see Sif but even better Loki is a female now thats a twist. It was still a great issue either way. The fight with him and the destroyer war wicked. I'm really excited that JMS is starting to pick up the pace big time.

Aside from Doom making a cameo in the book and plotting with Loki some of Thor's real good rogue gallery has been brought back(Midgard Serpent, Enchantress Frost Giants and Hela). Can't wait for next issue.

Of the other characters it is possible to understand but ... the Enchantress? There will have to be a good reason because in opposite case it would be a clear ignorance of what has happened in the last years, she stopped being a villainess and she was on Thor´s side, to turn her in villainess again without reason for it, it would be a big mistake.

On the other hand a great issue, 5 issues of Thor and all of them, good reading.

[Camron Amaya]

Of the other characters it is possible to understand but ... the Enchantress? There will have to be a good reason because in opposite case it would be a clear ignorance of what has happened in the last years, she stopped being a villainess and she was on Thor´s side, to turn her in villainess again without reason for it, it would be a big mistake.

On the other hand a great issue, 5 issues of Thor and all of them, good reading.

He brought back good and bad both, and it showed her as one of them. Doesn't mean she's evil, just one of the important characters brought back.

[Charlie_1981]

You are right, though sometimes there can be strange surprises. Probably it is better to wait and see that it is what happens and that supposes it is going to do JMS with her, always and when it is something good and not something surrealistic and senseless.

[jade_nova]

I am surprised no one is talking about the first two or three pages of this issue. I thought a mailbox being setup in front of Asgard and Thor getting the mail was one of the funniest and oddly heartwarming thing I have read.

[Camron Amaya]

You are right, though sometimes there can be strange surprises. Probably it is better to wait and see that it is what happens and that supposes it is going to do JMS with her, always and when it is something good and not something surrealistic and senseless.

Still though I wouldn't be suprised if she's up to some s**t, she was never exactly "good".

[Tobias Drake]

Considering, with the exception of Loki and Balder, every single Asgardian that was released took off before Thor could get back and find out just who he let go, I'm not sure that he brought back "good and bad both". Wouldn't jovial allies of Thor stick around and possibly go up and help him fight the Destroyer (before they knew it was disabled now that Balder was released)?

[Camron Amaya]

Considering, with the exception of Loki and Balder, every single Asgardian that was released took off before Thor could get back and find out just who he let go, I'm not sure that he brought back "good and bad both". Wouldn't jovial allies of Thor stick around and possibly go up and help him fight the Destroyer (before they knew it was disabled now that Balder was released)?

That's true. So if the only good guys he's released so far are Balder, the warriors three and Heimdall...you aren't gonna have much of an army against all these baddies.

And I can't wait for Beta Ray Bill to meet up with Thor, I'm sure Thor would wonder where he went to as well.

[Tobias Drake]

I want to know where all those people populating Asgard all of a sudden came from. Did Thor release tons of regular denizens since last issue, or does he just have an open door policy towards the people of Oklahoma?

[StoneGold]

And I can't wait for Beta Ray Bill to meet up with Thor, I'm sure Thor would wonder where he went to as well.

I dunno, it's not like Bill doesn't have a tendency to not show up for a couple of years.

[Camron Amaya]

I want to know where all those people populating Asgard all of a sudden came from. Did Thor release tons of regular denizens since last issue, or does he just have an open door policy towards the people of Oklahoma?

Holy crap I didn't even notice the little people standing around Asgard in those first pages. I'm guessing he's done some realeasing in between issues, not like they have to show us every single one, only the important ones.

I dunno, it's not like Bill doesn't have a tendency to not show up for a couple of years.

Last I checked Bill was trapped in some dimension fighting demons in Omega Flight.

[Tobias Drake]

Holy crap I didn't even notice the little people standing around Asgard in those first pages. I'm guessing he's done some realeasing in between issues, not like they have to show us every single one, only the important ones.

Indeed. Either Thor's been busy or he's open for tourists. :p

[Cayman]

I am surprised no one is talking about the first two or three pages of this issue. I thought a mailbox being setup in front of Asgard and Thor getting the mail was one of the funniest and oddly heartwarming thing I have read.

Yeah, that was really cute and neighborly.

[Camron Amaya]

Indeed. Either Thor's been busy or he's open for tourists. :p

Why can't Heimdall find Sif though I wonder. What makes her any harder to find...

I mean this can't be the last of it, Thor's not just gonna give up and forget about her..

[Tobias Drake]

Why can't Heimdall find Sif though I wonder. What makes her any harder to find...

I mean this can't be the last of it, Thor's not just gonna give up and forget about her..

Maybe she doesn't want to be found? I don't know, wild guess.

[Camron Amaya]

Maybe she doesn't want to be found? I don't know, wild guess.

Maybe Loki and Doom have her "spirit" or whatever. Makes a great bargaining chip for later, if you got Sif you pretty much got Thor by the balls Lol.

[Tobias Drake]

Maybe Loki and Doom have her "spirit" or whatever. Makes a great bargaining chip for later, if you got Sif you pretty much got Thor by the balls Lol.

Ooh, I know! Maybe she's a Skrull.

[Camron Amaya]

Mjolnir is a Skrull.

[StoneGold]

Last I checked Bill was trapped in some dimension fighting demons in Omega Flight.
Yeah, I'm just saying, given his tendency to not show up on panel for years at a time, there's no real reason for Thor to wonder where he was.

[Joe Acro]

I enjoyed the humor at the beginning and at the end (I love Volstagg), and the overall story itself. Loki being female now doesn't really seem like it adds much or changes anything, but time will tell. I find it more interesting that Doom is now involved and that he somehow gained access to the Destroyer armor. I anxiously await more.

[Tobias Drake]

Clearly, they're setting up Loki to be Thor's new love interest. :p You may all Squick (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Squick) now.

[Red Orion]

Indeed. Either Thor's been busy or he's open for tourists. :p

Heimdall clearly states Thor's been busy with this line:

"Though I have been able to lead you to many of our kind so that they may be restored over the last few days".

[Camron Amaya]

Heimdall clearly states Thor's been busy with this line:

"Though I have been able to lead you to many of our kind so that they may be restored over the last few days".

When you been waiting like a month to get your hands on the issue sometimes the little details slip you by :\

[Bulky Brent]

Of the other characters it is possible to understand but ... the Enchantress? There will have to be a good reason because in opposite case it would be a clear ignorance of what has happened in the last years, she stopped being a villainess and she was on Thor´s side, to turn her in villainess again without reason for it, it would be a big mistake.

On the other hand a great issue, 5 issues of Thor and all of them, good reading.
I don't know about that I kinda preferred her as a villain.

[Charlie_1981]

I don't know about that I kinda preferred her as a villain.

Some time ago that she stops being a villainess, always she was helping Thor and she save his life several times, to make that she returns to be a villainess without a convincing and coherent reason sounds so badly and turns out to be so ridiculous that I wouldn´t be able to define it.

The only thing for that I wait and wish is that JMS does the things well and doesn´t forget this so important detail. Not only I, but other persons who have read Thor for years, know perfectly that The Enchantress stopped being a villainess and she was on Thor´s side, to give up and to ignore this fact would be an insult to the intelligence of the readers except if a reason existed to do it and this reason is coherent.

[drwho]

Why can't Loki just turn himself back into a man. I dont really get the reveal much. I think what would have been better is somehow bring Loki back trapped in Lady Sifs body and Thor would be like WTF.

[Red Lotus]

I wonder if Marvel has a plan and is setting up for something in 2009, or is just writers using Doom randomly, without a plan for anything except their own books.

I hope that in Secret Invasion Spider-man turns out to be a Skrull. Then when its all over they show us Doom, The Red Skull, Loki and Mephisto. This would tie in to things that happen in Cap, Thor and Spider-man books.

[Drdmx]

Too much emphasis on just heroes being skrulls. What about villains? What about other characters maybe not in the main spotlight? Anyone fit the bill?

[Slyfer]

Ok Dr. Doom is my all time fav villan of the MU and seeing that Reveal was like goose bump mania. Good Lord that was sweet.

[ForEverAncien]

My mouth dropped, when I saw that page.

Then came, "Oh Frak!"
Man, Doom has his hands on everything these days. Good issue.

[genesis]

I think it's quite the reverse, Doom knows of the Skrull Infection and does'nt trust the Avengers or the Fantastic Four and is building up allies to help fight of the Skrulls since he can't rule the world if the Skrulls beat him to it.

It's cool that Doom has his fingers in so many pies I am hoping it has a payoff.

I had that as my second option after the spoilers, but as I said before he has his hands in too deep for him not to be involved in some big way with secret invasion.

[DjMichael691]

The issue was must better than 4 and story picked up perfectly. I loved the mail man and post box scene. That was priceless.

The only thing about this title I can not wrap my head arround is the whole Thor/Donald Blake thing.
How does that work? Are they the same person (Like Batman and Bruce Wayne) or are they two totally different people? Why were they talking to each other while the fight was happening? What happens to the other when the one appears (this goes the same for the others)?
This is confusing!

[BeastieRunner]

After deciding to listen to my comic book shop owner, I bought it and read it. It was a lot better than I thought it was going to be. I enjoyed seeing Doom in it but I still think the female Loki twist was just plain unnecessary.

[Monty_Cristo]

maybe the Doom stuff is the prelude to a marvel magic company crossover. Mephisto, Doom, Loki, Morgan Lefey, Magik, Ian McNee, Hood, Strange, etc.

[DarKye]

I must say that having absolutely no previous knowledge of Thor and his allies and enemies, both my girlfriend & I are finding this book extremely enjoyable.

Props to JMS for a very entertaining read.

[kane]

As a poster said before, what prevents Loki form changing into a man again? This should be not a problem for a powerful magician like him.

[DeadXMan]

Maybe Loki realized he was living a lie?

Thor: by Odin mead stained beard! Whathas happen to you brother!!
LOKI: I don't know, But

I FEEL PRETTY OH SO PRETTY....!

[jackolover]

Have Loki and Doom ever cooperated together before? If not maybe Doom sees the pretty loki girl, and doesn't see the God of Mischief, and just likes to make deals with the devil, (which he has shown to be prone to do).

As to what those two are cooking up, (except for a marriage between Loki Girl and Doom), there maybe something Loki has initiated as well. Loki released all the good and the bad, back into the world, but a deal with a human like Doom means a little bit more human connected. Loki has no use for Doom, and shouldn't lower herself by making some alliance. What's in it for Doom? Loki can grant just about any kind of retribution on Reed Richards.

But Loki? She is a girl for a reason, now, and, the deal with Doom has something to do with Thor and Asgard, relating to the Earth. Nobody can beleive anything that comes out of the mouth of Loki, so her denying she will cause anymore Ragnoraks is a falsehood. I think she will use Doom to start something on earth, that Thor will be distracted with, and then Loki can use her womanly whiles on Balder the brave, in a most seductive way, and marry him. Blehhh!

[StoneGold]

Have Loki and Doom ever cooperated together before?

Does Acts of Vengeance count? Probably not, since Loki was manipulating everything, and Doom was probably a Doombot.

[shaxberd]

After seeing Doctor Doom appear in this, I'm actually wondering whether maybe Odin didn't come back inside Doctor Doom. On the one hand, it doesn't seem likely, but on the other hand, it makes perfect sense. More sense than Loki reporting to him or begging his favor, at any rate.

And Loki's female form looked a lot like his daughter, who was rescued by Spider-Man in Amazing Spider-Man, during JMS run. Makes me wonder whether Loki hasn't actually manifested yet. I mean, maybe he reappeared inside and is now acting through his daughter but hasn't actually been released yet?

[Will.S]

There seems to be a lot of behind the scenes Dr. Doom activity lately and since his comeback a good deal of writers have wanted to take dibs on the character. Ed Brubaker's doing something with him in Captain America, Bendis is doing something with him in Mighty Avengers, and now JMS with a pact between him and Loki.

I can't say that their pact is new since Stonegold mentioned their Acts of Vengeance crossover as well as a really well done version in the videogame Marvel: Ultimate Alliance. But a new version of their alliance should be really cool if they play that up slowly.

And Loki's female form looked a lot like his daughter, who was rescued by Spider-Man in Amazing Spider-Man, during JMS run. Makes me wonder whether Loki hasn't actually manifested yet. I mean, maybe he reappeared inside and is now acting through his daughter but hasn't actually been released yet?
Morwen right?

That would be a cool way of using JMS's old Spider-Man book continuity to tie into this. By the way, love this issue and all the stuff throughout. The mailbox, the Destroyer returning, the red herring cover, and the bigger scope of the asgardians returning at the end was a great thing to see now that they're all strewn about the earth. Coipel's art is as good as ever, the coloring took a slight hit since I can tell where Paul Mounts switch hit for Laura but Paul still did a good job with trying to maintain a consistent color tone.

[Camron Amaya]

After seeing Doctor Doom appear in this, I'm actually wondering whether maybe Odin didn't come back inside Doctor Doom. On the one hand, it doesn't seem likely, but on the other hand, it makes perfect sense. More sense than Loki reporting to him or begging his favor, at any rate.

And Loki's female form looked a lot like his daughter, who was rescued by Spider-Man in Amazing Spider-Man, during JMS run. Makes me wonder whether Loki hasn't actually manifested yet. I mean, maybe he reappeared inside and is now acting through his daughter but hasn't actually been released yet?

Didn't seem like Loki was reporting to Doom, it semed like Doom was the one taking orders.

[Arilou]

Didn't seem like Loki was reporting to Doom, it semed like Doom was the one taking orders.

Which if so would be the grossest out-of-character moment ever.

Doom takes order from no one: Man or God. He *might* listen to suggestions if you ask properly though.

[Brian888]

Oh man. If Doom ends up being the person who spearheads Earth's defense against the Skrulls, I will never stop grinning.

[stingerman]

Good issue!

[DeadXMan]

Oh man. If Doom ends up being the person who spearheads Earth's defense against the Skrulls, I will never stop grinning.

Dittio Man

And you so know he's gonna rub it in Reed's face.

[Crimson]

I still find it odd that the entire premise of this book has been resolved in 5 issues... yet it still feel slow.

I was rather looking forward to Thor rebuilding Asgard but now it's back and rather glossed over.

[Ottmeister X]

This has been an entertaining read for me so far. I hope that JMS and Copiel have this plotted out for the next 2-3 years because it could build into a real great run. I think this pairing could rival Simonson's run if they stick with it and JMS doesn't lose focus on it.

We've waited awhile for Thor to come back and this has been worth the wait so far. It's in my Top 10 for now.

[Will.S]

I still find it odd that the entire premise of this book has been resolved in 5 issues... yet it still feel slow.

I was rather looking forward to Thor rebuilding Asgard but now it's back and rather glossed over.
I see what you mean but they haven't really explored Asgard itself. We've seen the main castle and chunks of forest and stuff like that but it's different from the old Asgard. From the looks of this issue it seems to be all spread out throughout the world rather than just that one spot, I'm wondering if the rainbow bridge will ever connect them since that was such an iconic aspect of Asgard.

I could understand if that will be considered over used though since they always use the broken bridge as a shocker that something big is going on.

[Lunal]

Thor should open up Asgard to tourism, definately. I could see one of those little Kodak photo spots being placed right next to Heimdall.

[Will.S]

Thor should open up Asgard to tourism, definately. I could see one of those little Kodak photo spots being placed right next to Heimdall.
That would be hilarious.

[jackolover]

So that's what Dooms connection is the Asgard. You have to go all the way back to FF #537 to see when Doom touched Thors Hammers, he let off a massive energy release, which Reed surmises, is Dooms touching the Asgardian energy release at Ragnorak, (while Doom was in Hell), and Doom retouching Thors Hammer, restated the Nordic Pantheon again, and made Mjoilnor live. Just like the first time David Banner, (no..,no,no, the other DB), Donald Blake touched Thors hammer, in Journey into Mystery #88, which also set off the Nordic Pantheon into existence again.

In some way, Doom reigniting the Asgardians, has come to the notice of Loki, and, in some other way, makes Doom a co-partner with Donald Blake.

[Bryson the Red]

So that's what Dooms connection is the Asgard. You have to go all the way back to FF #537 to see when Doom touched Thors Hammers, he let off a massive energy release, which Reed surmises, is Dooms touching the Asgardian energy release at Ragnorak, (while Doom was in Hell), and Doom retouching Thors Hammer, restated the Nordic Pantheon again, and made Mjoilnor live. Just like the first time David Banner, (no..,no,no, the other DB), Donald Blake touched Thors hammer, in Journey into Mystery #88, which also set off the Nordic Pantheon into existence again.

In some way, Doom reigniting the Asgardians, has come to the notice of Loki, and, in some other way, makes Doom a co-partner with Donald Blake.

Maybe its just me, but thats not how I interpreted what happened or is going on. I thought Doom coming back was just because he followed the hammer out, not that he re-awakened anything. As for Doom coming to Loki's notice I think it was the other way around. I was under the impression that Doom contacted Loki's spirit and make a deal with him to awaken all the baddies (pure speculation though since it hasn't really be covered yet)

[ThunderKat]

great issue, was a bit confused about the loki - doom conversation.
the mailbox scene was great and thor looking into to it, would've loved a bit more extention to the final scene where they visit the townhouse.
ah well, love JMS for pushing the right buttons with this.

In my top 2 with Iron Fist.
Awesome!

[Bulky Brent]

It was going at such a steady pace and was starting to quicken up the last thing we needed was this delay.

[jackolover]

Love to see Thor stick his foot on his 'sisters' throat, sometime in all this. And even punch 'her' out, when 'she' gets bad. What would Thor do, if Loki gets out of line? Would he send her to her room?