Is Supergirl worth reading?

[elise]

I was thinking of picking up on the Supergirl series that's out now but I'm not hearing things all that great about it. Do you think it's worth reading right now?

Were any of the past arcs good? I'm considering just getting a TPB or two instead maybe.

Input appreciated. :)

[Bored at 3:00AM]

Not really. It was fun for a bit in a train-wreck kinda way, but now its just dull. I think the book still has its fans though...

[Solaris01]

I am just not interested in her. I kinda tolerate her in the Supes books.:evilsmile

Welcome, Elise,
I am also new here.

[Kage Kisaragi]

the last few stories since Kelly stopped writing haven't been worth reading. Despite how much people might have complained about Kelly's Supergirl run at least his stories were interesting to read. That is if you totally remove the last 4 or so issues of his run where he basically caved in to this boards and I can only suspect other comic community boards and tried to undo everything he was doing as the typical bad dream scenario.

[Rattlehead]

Not really, no. I have the Superman/Batman: Supergirl trade, and the Supergirl: Power trade, and I didn't realy enjoy them all that much. She was OK upon her debut, but she's become quite the annoying whiner since. I didn't find her to be likable at all, and the first arc of her own book was nothing more than a world tour of her fighting random DCU characters. It got a huge "bleh" from me.

[DarkCrisis]

No, not really. And I say this as a Kara fan. The new stuff has been pretty awful. The book has no direction at all.

Go find back issues of PAD's Linda Danvers Supergirl instead.

[elise]

Thanks for the replies, everyone! It's quite disappointing to hear that the series isn't very good since I quite like Kara in Batman/Superman and in the new The Brave and the Bold. Maybe (hopefully) someday they'll pull her series together and shape it up some.

[Johnny_Luck]

Everything since issue 19 has been a total character disaster however issues 5-9 and 13-16 are definately good reads and entertaining. Basically the character sucks now more so because they are making her light and fluffy like the few people who were complaining on the boards wanted rather than keeping it to what the people actually picking up the book were enjoying.

[DarkCrisis]

I much perfer the attitude change over Emo Kara.

At first it was understandable due to all the trauma but she seriously needed to get over herself.

But as I said the biggest problem is the book has no direction. Every 3 issues its a new writer/artist who gives some half-ass tale about her. She has no enemies to fight or place to protect or anything. She just exists. The book has no core. And it can't get one until they get a writer who will stick around for the long haul to create some substance and lore.

[Kage Kisaragi]

Everything since issue 19 has been a total character disaster however issues 5-9 and 13-16 are definately good reads and entertaining. Basically the character sucks now more so because they are making her light and fluffy like the few people who were complaining on the boards wanted rather than keeping it to what the people actually picking up the book were enjoying.

Quoted for Truth.

[Fatguy]

Yea, I liked Kelly's run. Up until the end, when they made her into the boring, typical teen hero. Then I dropped it and though about picking it up again when Puckett came on, but the reviews on that have nixed the idea.

I liked kinda crazy, kinda bitchy Supergirl. She was amusing and, if nothing else, different.

[Johnny_Luck]

I liked kinda crazy, kinda bitchy Supergirl. She was amusing and, if nothing else, different.

which exactly why she was awesome and interesting, she was fun and different.

[Draconomicon]

I... tried to read the book, but between the horrid art and the directionless stories, there was really nothing that kept me on it.
I recently got all the back issues for a few bucks and read it from issue 1 through, and its even worse than I remember. O_o.

[Young Avenger]

Everything since issue 19 has been a total character disaster however issues 5-9 and 13-16 are definately good reads and entertaining. Basically the character sucks now more so because they are making her light and fluffy like the few people who were complaining on the boards wanted rather than keeping it to what the people actually picking up the book were enjoying.

I agree with this post.

[Iroquois]

This book has been a gigantic trainwreck from the beginning. Heck, given the direction Loeb had given the character in Superman/Batman, it was a mess before it even started. During Kelly's run it was like "Bitch's Creek", with a highly unlikable Kara and now it's just boring.

[BYC]

They need to choose Silver Age Supergirl or emo Supergirl. At this point, it's inexcusable that DC or the writers haven't picked one or the other. Not everybody will love that choice, but I think it should be better than what it is right now, which is nobody likes her.

[NotSuper]

I wish Waid would write the title. His Kara (in Legion and Brave and the Bold) is quite good. Plus, he knows everything about the Superman mythos.

[Kage Kisaragi]

This book has been a gigantic trainwreck from the beginning. Heck, given the direction Loeb had given the character in Superman/Batman, it was a mess before it even started. During Kelly's run it was like "Bitch's Creek", with a highly unlikable Kara and now it's just boring.

be sure to label this as your opinion, as at least 4 other people on this very thread have voiced that the book was enjoyable for the most part of loeb and kelly's run.

[Iroquois]

I don't need to post a "IMO" disclaimer every time I post, in the off chance someone will be offended. It's pretty obvious I'm expressing an opinion.

And it works both ways. The positive opinions about the book neither negate nor are they more valid than my own. I didn't see you asking for disclaimers in those posts.

[Young Avenger]

I wish Waid would write the title. His Kara (in Legion and Brave and the Bold) is quite good. Plus, he knows everything about the Superman mythos.

I don't like Waid's Supergirl. She's boring and uninteresting

[NotSuper]

I don't like Waid's Supergirl. She's boring and uninteresting
But I DO like her and find her to be very interesting. So there you go.

[Kage Kisaragi]

This is why I try to point out, opinion vs opinion. If you don't, at least make the comment sound non intrusive. That way you don't go around pissing everyone who might like something you don't off.

Still, to the OP.. you mentioned you liked Loeb's start. Yes that was pretty nifty and I would have loved to see Kara spin off into a darker (evil) kryptonian for a while longer and not written off as mind conditioning by her father. Yet Loeb ditched this last minute, and Kelly picked up on it then ditched everything he did later on... Read the first two trades, and maybe issues 11-15.. those are probably more to your liking. (might be off with the single issues.)

[NotSuper]

I liked "The Supergirl From Krypton" arc and Kara's appearances outside her own title, but the book itself has always seemed to lack direction: no supporting cast, too many guest-stars from other books, no villains that are her very own, and a confusing backstory and origin (they should've taken care of this in the first or second issue).

[elise]

Thanks, I'll take a look through those when I visit a comic shop next. :D

The only time I've read Waid writing Supergirl is in the Brave and the Bold and from that at least, I don't know how anyone could say she was boring and uninteresting in that! I was really expecting her to fly away to pout after asking Hal, "You think I'm a child?" but instead most likely ignored emotions of the moment and instead came up with that plan... surprised me in a really good way. :)

[BYC]

Although it was only average, I overall liked Loeb's Supergirl (ignoring Darkseid's jobbing, and the lack of logic in Darkseid's defeats). I never read PAD's Linda, although I heard it's great from numerous sources. I am definitely one of those people who thought Supergirl should actually be Superman's cousin, not somebody who took up the mantle. Also, I've been a big fan of Ian Churchill, so when he left the book, my interest dropped a lot. Certainly the book has had problems, but I wish they would have chose a direction. Any direction. As I have stated already, Silver Age or Emo, I prefer Silver Age, but I would respect their decision to go Emo and build off of that and let Kara mature into a good character, possibly even similar to Silver Age version.

But instead, after 2 years, she's been pulled in some many directions that nobody is happy. Things like this frustate me so much. It seems like comics nowadays don't have direction. The writers just write a few stories, and then the next one comes along and contridicts or retcons those stories.

[d newton]

Everything since issue 19 has been a total character disaster.
Some examples of why this is would be nice.

[ForEverAncien]

A fellow/gal named mule1 at DC Supergirl Forum, give this explanation...

And to add, I have been calling on this, for this book, to be cancalled, for quite a while now.

It has been bad, it has gotten worse...
What really surprises me about these last two issues is that Drew Johnson has never done such a terrible job laying out Kelley Puckett's stories. Perhaps Lee Ferguson's artistic contribution is what made the sequential storytelling such a confusing disaster.

Having said this.... I think I "might" have some idea what puckett was wanting the artists (Johnson and Ferguson) to convey:

1. The entire involvement of the Green Lanterns in the first issue was just to heighten the sense that there was a war brewing that had to be stopped by Supergirl tracking the enemies courier ship back to the enemy base.... after which...presumeably.... the Green Lanterns would lock in on the signal and destroy the enemy base. (Oddly enough..... the "enemy" is not specifically mentioned.... nor is the "War" that Superman refers to. All Superman states is that ...."the stakes are significant".

2. Now ..... follow me on this guys..... because I have just as much difficulty making sense of that first issue as any of you..... BUT.... I think I can put piece the following together....

a. The Green Lantern tells Supergirl VERY SPECIFICALLY to

"Position yourself directly above the ship..... stay within 10 meters at all times...... do not deviate.....or you will be detected and attacked....."

The green lantern ended his instructions to Kara by emphasizing "I cannot stress HOW important,..." but for some very odd reason... the artist Puckett cut off the word balloon... so we don't know exactly how the GL was going to finish his sentence. ..... suggesting to me that MAYBE Puckett structured the scene that way to convey the idea that despite Kara's super-hearing.... she is overly hyper and does not actually pay attention to everything all the time. She is always overly confident and reslies too much on what she assumes is her all-powerful nature.

Which leads me to how last issue ended....

b. Supergilr FAILED. The ship that she was shadowing flew by a very bright sun and (strangely enough) instead of empowering her as most yellow suns do.... it caused her to lag behind the ship.... and she was detected. Upon detecting Supergirl.... the ship fired upon her and increased its speed. Supergirl recovered and tried to catch up to the ship.... but ran out of air..... forcing her to activate her 'return' device... which tteleported her back to the green lantern base..... where she says "I'm sorry" to Superman.

And the reason she says that "I'm sorry" is because she failed.

c. Having failed in her mission... Kara goes back home to her apartment....... and wallows in self-pity while looking in her bathroom mirror. She then appears to have a realization! .... and boldly exclaims "two hours" ....probably as a knee-jerk way to remind herself of how much time she will have in space when she goes back to pursue her plan.


Now..... we were not told at the end of issue 23 what Kara's revelation was.


BUT.... I think we were told in this latest issue (24).

Issue 24 begins with Supergilr returning to her apartment to find Superman there. Kara was very impressed with herself about what she was doing to try and find the courier ship. She tells Superman at the bottom of page 5 about how she "can use x-ray broad spectrum and long range vision all at the same time".... as a way of lookin for the ship.

(THUS.... we can infer that it was this "x-ray-broad spectrum" idea that Kara had at the end of issue 23.... that caused her to excitedly fly back into space and look for the ship again.... reminding herself that she only had two hours again).

d. Of course... Kara became depressed once again when Superman told her that he also had an idea.... but unlike hers..... his actually worked. And this is when Superman told her about his idea to use "Lensed Light" to track the ship.... and that it worked.

This caused Kara to feel a little down on herself as she probably felt that she did spent a total of 4 hours holding her breath essentially accomplishing nothing.... and despite her novelle idea.... she was unsuccessful.... but once again... her famouse cousin.... was not. I think the sequence of scenes shows Kara feeling down on herself.

Superman picked up on her mood.... and it coincided nicely with his desire to show Kara how the Lensed Light device could be used to view Krypton.

And that is exactly what Superman and Supergirl did. They looked in on the light waves that had passed Krypton long ago..... and viewed past events on krypton as filtered through the Lensed Light Device.

The rest of the issue is , I think fairly straightforward... with Kara embracing the irony that while she was essentially sent to earth to , among other things "babysit" Kal-el...... she ended up being the one mentored ..... by the very person she was sent to look after.

Thus..... I think Puckett as the writer was trying to tell a story that emphasized the above irony..... and ..... to SET SUPERGIRL APART from her cousin by showing that Kara was raised to her teenage years on krypton and has a different perspective. She has something that Kal-el does not.... first hand memories and experiences with not only her own parents.... but Kal's as well.

And THOSE MEMORIES are precious. They are nor filled with ridiculous phantoms and columbine-style massacres. The Lensed Light Device help remind Kara of how precious her memories are..... and exactly how that sets her apart from her cousin.

This latest issue ends with Kara telling Kal-el about his mother's beautiful singing voice.... something that perhaps Kal never really knew... or specifically remembered.

Thus... perhaps the point of this story (among others) is that while Kal has much to offer Kara in terms of mentoring her and teaching her.... Kara also has much she can offer him...... specifically her own memories of his parents. She can give Kal the gift of knowledge of who his parents were beyond his limited infant memories.

As for next issue..... I predict it will be filled with Kara discussing her feelings and memories about krypton..... a necessary thing given the poorly received "phantom-angle" crap.... and finding a deeper sense of self.


Or not.

[KET]

The rest of the issue is , I think fairly straightforward... with Kara embracing the irony that while she was essentially sent to earth to , among other things "babysit" Kal-el...... she ended up being the one mentored ..... by the very person she was sent to look after.

Thus..... I think Puckett as the writer was trying to tell a story that emphasized the above irony..... and ..... to SET SUPERGIRL APART from her cousin by showing that Kara was raised to her teenage years on krypton and has a different perspective. She has something that Kal-el does not.... first hand memories and experiences with not only her own parents.... but Kal's as well.

The basic problem with trying to establish this NOW is that it directly conflicts with the "Kara's fuzzy memories" shtick that Loeb and Kelly dragged out for several SUPERGIRL issues previous. Moreover, it looks more like DC's already retconning the character so she fits the backstory on SMALLVILLE.

What isn't in doubt is the current 'Supergirl' is STILL a cipher after all this time, as the lack of direction in her solo series makes the overall problem plainly obvious by now.

[Sean Whitmore]

This is why I try to point out, opinion vs opinion.

I think you can stop, cause we all get it.


SEAN

[G. Wayne]

It started out okay, but...

..
But as I said the biggest problem is the book has no direction. Every 3 issues its a new writer/artist who gives some half-ass tale about her. She has no enemies to fight or place to protect or anything. She just exists. The book has no core. And it can't get one until they get a writer who will stick around for the long haul to create some substance and lore.

...pretty much covers it exactly. I dropped it after that nigh-incomprehensible spaceship scene ForEverAncien quoted an explanatory thesis about a few posts back.

[Powerboy]

I was thinking of picking up on the Supergirl series that's out now but I'm not hearing things all that great about it. Do you think it's worth reading right now?

Were any of the past arcs good? I'm considering just getting a TPB or two instead maybe.

Input appreciated. :)

That's funny because I'm sitting here reading the Supergirl graphic novel collections inbetween posts.

When I was buying the comics one at a time and only getting a segment of the story a month, I didn't think it was very good and stopped at issue four. But now that I can sit and read an entire story arc at once by only buying the collections, I think the stories come together nicely.

[NotSuper]

I am definitely one of those people who thought Supergirl should actually be Superman's cousin, not somebody who took up the mantle.
I agree with you there. The origin for the first post-Crisis Supergirl (who wasn't really a girl, but instead a shape-shifting protoplasmic entity from a pocket universe...) was convoluted and needlessly complex. To be fair, though, I don't think Matrix was originally intended to be a permanent Supergirl.

Of course, DC kind of made the current Kara's origin needlessly complex as well. There's no need for Zor-El to be evil or for Kara to be some weapon. I'd prefer it if what Loeb established in the initial arc is kept while the rest is thrown out (which seems to be the way they're going).

But, most importantly, Kara needs her OWN cast and rogues gallery. She shouldn't borrow from others.

[ForEverAncien]

Hmmm, there is some irony here. The issue was out for a while, but no one said anything, posted nothing, excluding current company.

That shows the 'lack of interest' was deep.

I will not begrudge those who like the book, I was one who did, from the very beginning.

But come on...there is but so much garbage fill, one can take.

[ToxicTeen]

I find SuperGirl enjoyable to read(Especially when Joe Kelly was writing it) even though almost everyone else hates it now...:o

[Johnny_Luck]

Hmmm, there is some irony here. The issue was out for a while, but no one said anything, posted nothing, excluding current company.

That shows the 'lack of interest' was deep.

I will not begrudge those who like the book, I was one who did, from the very beginning.

But come on...there is but so much garbage fill, one can take.

I haven't got to the store yet to pick up the newest issue but if its like the last two its probably just more assassination of what makes supergirl as a character work rather than fixing whats wrong which is lack of rogues and clear stories.

Her cast should be Cassie and bring Boomer back into her life., she doesn't need a secret id or any human friends, two things of which Klly P probably thinks might be a good idea.

Honestly they should just let Loeb back onto the book and give him permission to pretend issues 19-25 have not and never did exsist and allow him to save the character.

[ForEverAncien]

-Cries-

'Speechless'
I haven't got to the store yet to pick up the newest issue but if its like the last two its probably just more assassination of what makes supergirl as a character work rather than fixing whats wrong which is lack of rogues and clear stories.

Her cast should be Cassie and bring Boomer back into her life., she doesn't need a secret id or any human friends, two things of which Klly P probably thinks might be a good idea.

Honestly they should just let Loeb back onto the book and give him permission to pretend issues 19-25 have not and never did exsist and allow him to save the character.

[Sean Whitmore]

-Cries-

'Speechless'

Me too.

I wasn't aware anything made her work as a character.


SEAN

[Johnny_Luck]

Me too.

I wasn't aware anything made her work as a character.


SEAN

Her Character was solid, enjoyable and near perfect from issues 5-16, what wasn't was the stories, lack of rogues gallery and an unclear origin. That is what needed to be screwed around with and fixed not the character which has consistently been screwed around with since issue 19.

[Bat-Reader]

I dropped it in issue # 18... I like Supergirl but mostly i was around for that "Zor-El actually send her to kill baby Kal-El" twist and it turned out to be "there's no such a thing, she's just confused" and as a result here i'm whining i guess :D

[snarkbunny]

Her Character was solid, enjoyable and near perfect from issues 5-16, what wasn't was the stories, lack of rogues gallery and an unclear origin. That is what needed to be screwed around with and fixed not the character which has consistently been screwed around with since issue 19.

But that is still an opinion. I detested the emoKara version and I really enjoyed Tony Bedard's run and would have been happy to keep buying it. I tried Puckett's first issue and frankly I just dropped the book then and there.

I have no interest in reading about the character that was in issues 1-2,9-10,14,16 (which were the issues I bought and read before the Bedard run) and if the direction is to keep with that characterization then I'm gone. The fact that the artwork was very unappealing to me topped it off.

If DC wants to keep with emoKara and if you enjoy that style - great, enjoy the book, but I'm not coming back to that morass of unpleasantness.

[Alex L]

I dropped it in issue # 18... I like Supergirl but mostly i was around for that "Zor-El actually send her to kill baby Kal-El" twist and it turned out to be "there's no such a thing, she's just confused" and as a result here i'm whining i guess :D

I think that was some sort of cosmic-level test?

Don't remember if that plotline was introduced and resolved by the same writer -- it could very well have been forcibly ended by someone else.

...which all leads back in to the "no real direction" argument against the book.

I don't mind Kara's remembering her Kryptonian roots and her search for an Earthling life -- it helps set her apart from Superman, who was raised as a human and never knew anything else.

Kara is the immigrant experience.

[4thHorseman]

I really tried to get into Supergirl, but dropped it after issue 23. The last two issues had been complete crap with essentially no story that did nothing for her character. I didn't mind the slight characterization she had, but ever since Amazon Attacks, I've given up on the book she's mainly in. However, I don't have a problem with her in Teen Titans.

[PatrickG]

Of course, DC kind of made the current Kara's origin needlessly complex as well. There's no need for Zor-El to be evil or for Kara to be some weapon. I'd prefer it if what Loeb established in the initial arc is kept while the rest is thrown out (which seems to be the way they're going).


You might be interested to know the the current team appears to have retconned that.

Superman worked with the GLC to build a special set of scopes to exploit relativity in order to give Kara a glimpse of Krypton and it appears those hazy memories she was getting back weren't real at all.

I think they may just be chalked up to Dark Angel, Darkseid or both.

[KET]

You might be interested to know the the current team appears to have retconned that.

Superman worked with the GLC to build a special set of scopes to exploit relativity in order to give Kara a glimpse of Krypton and it appears those hazy memories she was getting back weren't real at all.

I think they may just be chalked up to Dark Angel, Darkseid or both.


Or in reality, the MULTIPLE WRITING MISFIRES on the book already needed a retcon, hence the change.

Keep in mind that if the SUPERGIRL sales slide continues unabated, any efforts by the 'current team' may also get retconned just as fast.

[Sean Whitmore]

You might be interested to know the the current team appears to have retconned that.

Superman worked with the GLC to build a special set of scopes to exploit relativity in order to give Kara a glimpse of Krypton and it appears those hazy memories she was getting back weren't real at all.

I think they may just be chalked up to Dark Angel, Darkseid or both.

On the one hand, geez, that's silly. Thank God I don't buy this book.

On the other hand, I can't fault the desire to lose that back story. Matrix/Supergirl was ditched, ostensibly, so that the original Supergirl could return. With that in mind, may as well write her like the original Supergirl, and not a "will she/won't she" assassin.


SEAN

[d newton]

That is what needed to be screwed around with and fixed not the character which has consistently been screwed around with since issue 19.

Reread post 26 of this thread.

[Mia]

the last few stories since Kelly stopped writing haven't been worth reading. Despite how much people might have complained about Kelly's Supergirl run at least his stories were interesting to read. That is if you totally remove the last 4 or so issues of his run where he basically caved in to this boards and I can only suspect other comic community boards and tried to undo everything he was doing as the typical bad dream scenario.

WORD.


I dropped the book for Beddard's run. But picked it up again when I heard that Puckett would be writing. But after two issues I just find it dull and boring and really have to wonder what the purpose of pulling Kelley off the book in the first place. I'm glad this topic came up because I was rather surprised to see that there was no thread started when the last issue came out. It's nice to see that I am not the only person disenchanted.


I'm giving it two more issues to improve then I'm done.

[Christopher Cross Is God]

the first arc of her own book was nothing more than a world tour of her fighting random DCU characters. It got a huge "bleh" from me.

I agree on that part, issues 1 & 2 were horrid.......Especially #2, which seemingly had Jeph Loeb coming up with any excuse he can think of for Supergirl to fight the Titans. It just seemed so forced & ridiculous.

And I didn't care much for the initial storyline in Superman/Batman, which was also by Loeb.

But, issues 3-5 of Supergirl (by Loeb) weren't bad.

Everything since issue 19 has been a total character disaster however issues 5-9 and 13-16 are definately good reads and entertaining. Basically the character sucks now more so because they are making her light and fluffy like the few people who were complaining on the boards wanted rather than keeping it to what the people actually picking up the book were enjoying.

I'm on the same boat with enjoying those earlier issues.........Myself, from what I remember, I liked issues 3-11 & 13-18.

I don't think the character sucks now because they made her light & fluffy, and I'm not going to complain that she was changed a bit. I'll just enjoy the older issues and ignore all the current mumbo jumbo going on in the title.......But light & fluffy can be done in an effective way, it's probably just bad writing in itself which has driven people away from the book. Plus, hasn't the book gone through creator changes a few too many times now?



I liked kinda crazy, kinda bitchy Supergirl. She was amusing and, if nothing else, different.

Exactly. She was an interesting & different type of character.

[ForEverAncien]

Issue #25 is out, and see...

No interest.

[Jack Zodiac]

I enjoyed some of the stories Loeb wrote in Superman/Batman, and the beginning of the ongoing was interesting, but the lack of direction afterwards was apparent. And I flat out hated Kelly's take on her character. Some of his storytelling was decent, but most of it was decompressed trash and I stopped reading midway through. I picked it up again towards the end, but it wasn't any better. It was only more confusing and contrived, especially his metatext commentary about people bitching about his Supergirl. After that, Bedard got stuck with some lame ass crossover issues that could've been a lot better if he weren't tethered to telling mandated stories, and aside from the first issue that was kind of interesting, Puckett's run so far has been severely underwhelming. I just finished the last issue and, while the villain Kara's fighting seems interesting, there's no plot, and the twenty-two pages of decompression and lackluster art weren't even close to worth three bucks.

Right now, if you wanna read a well-written Supergirl, ya' have to be reading McKeever's Teen Titans. That's who they should put on this book sometime.

[Johnny_Luck]

Reread post 26 of this thread.

Since Your incapable of actually reading my whole original post, plus all the majorities since I spell it out for you.

Crying + whining to the kents because your afraid of what superman a man who just came back into your life ten seconds ago(though it wasn't needed) thinks about what you did even though the two years previous you couldn't give two shits what he thought about you.

Losing your backbone

Needing Batman and Superman to show up more than you do in your own book so that they can make all the decisions on how you should act for you even when you were able to make them on your own beforehand.

As for my Original Post about the subject which you seemed to have skipped.

Basically the character sucks now more so because they are making her light and fluffy like the few people who were complaining on the boards wanted rather than keeping it to what the people actually picking up the book were enjoying.



Right now, if you wanna read a well-written Supergirl, ya' have to be reading McKeever's Teen Titans. That's who they should put on this book sometime.

Yes, That is exactly How I feel right now. If Sean/Barrows could write and draw both books they both be super amazing.

[d newton]

Since Your incapable of actually reading my whole original post, plus all the majorities since I spell it out for you.
Nice, you call me incapable but can't even spell "you're" correctly.

Crying + whining to the kents because your afraid of what superman a man who just came back into your life ten seconds ago.
I assume this is a reference to issue 21 which you didn't pick up IIRC:
Everything since issue 19 has been a total character disaster.

Basically the character sucks now more so because they are making her light and fluffy like the few people who were complaining on the boards wanted rather than keeping it to what the people actually picking up the book were enjoying.
People are tired of angsty Kara at the moment.

[Sean Whitmore]

People are tired of angsty Kara at the moment.

I was tired of angsty Kara the moment she appeared.


SEAN

[Super Buddies Forever]

At this point, the only thing that could get me interested in the book and the character is if they bring in Linda Danvers as an occasional supporting character.

After all, the rapport between Hal and Kyle in the GL books has helped many of their fans accept the other character. It would be interesting to see the more experienced, mature, world-weary Supergirl tutor the new kid.

[Kage Kisaragi]

At this point, the only thing that could get me interested in the book and the character is if they bring in Linda Danvers as an occasional supporting character.

After all, the rapport between Hal and Kyle in the GL books has helped many of their fans accept the other character. It would be interesting to see the more experienced, mature, world-weary Supergirl tutor the new kid.

Except you know, Linda Danvers from what I understand isn't the real Supergirl while Kara is, so having someone who was a pretender to the title trying to tell you how to behaver is more like a slap in the face, and if you thought Kara was angsty then, you can just imagine how quickly she'll rip Linda a new for even daring. :)

[KET]

Except you know, Linda Danvers from what I understand isn't the real Supergirl while Kara is,

That sounds more like Dan DiDio's wish fulfillment than reality. :D

And from what I understand, they're both comic book characters. Neither of them are any more "real" than the other.

However, 'new Kara' has already acknowleged that there were Supergirl predecessors before her, so I don't think there's any problem with that perception from her point of view.


...so having someone who was a pretender to the title trying to tell you how to behaver is more like a slap in the face, and if you thought Kara was angsty then, you can just imagine how quickly she'll rip Linda a new for even daring. :)

Frankly, Linda could merely borrow some Kryptonite, and humble Kara in no time at all. :evilsmile

[Jack Zodiac]

Except you know, Linda Danvers from what I understand isn't the real Supergirl while Kara is, so having someone who was a pretender to the title trying to tell you how to behaver is more like a slap in the face, and if you thought Kara was angsty then, you can just imagine how quickly she'll rip Linda a new for even daring. :)

She may not have been Kryptonian, but even after years of Kara being around again, Linda's still the superior Supergirl. It helped that she had an excellent writer, of course.

[Schmakt]

I started reading this current Supergirl series when it came out based solely on how much I loved (and still love) Peter David's Supergirl from the late 90's. I don't read any regular DCU titles, so I really had no idea what to expect. Sure, I thought she looked freakin' fantastic, but I really hated the stories. I stuck with it through the first arc and then zapped it all on ebay.

For my money, Peter David's Supergirl is Supergirl. :)

[Slaughter]

At this point, the only thing that could get me interested in the book and the character is if they bring in Linda Danvers as an occasional supporting character.

After all, the rapport between Hal and Kyle in the GL books has helped many of their fans accept the other character. It would be interesting to see the more experienced, mature, world-weary Supergirl tutor the new kid.

I could't agree more. Linda had just as many personal demons as Kara. I would love to see her again. She was three times better than Kara.

[Fatguy]

I was tired of angsty Kara the moment she appeared.


SEAN

Great, now you've pissed off angsty Supergirl.

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(On a side note, while searching comicvine.com for SG pics, there sure are a lot of Supergirl kissing other women pictures.......)