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The Umberella Man
12-24-2007, 02:03 PM
I'm not a huge Superman fan, but these ideas just popped into my head and I had to ask somebody, so I'll ask you guys!
I'm wondering what the stories would be like if he had been brought up by the families of the other heroes.
What if Superman had...
...landed in the Wayne's back yard? Imagine Batman and Superman fighting crime together from their youth, what a menacing duo! Beats Robin anyway. How would that change Batsy's and Supermans attitudes?
...landed in the ocean and was found by the Atlantians? How would Superman act if he had spend his life under the rule of the magical Atlantis royalty, Aquaman himself? Would his powers be weakness by the lack of sunlight beneath the waves or would the pressure and constant swimming strengthen him?
...landed in the throne-room of the savage Amazons? How would the Amazons react to a man that could kick their asses? Imagine a hardened, battle trained Superman cutting off heads! Would Wonderwoman have a arranged marriage with ol' Supes, would their kids be the greatest warriors on Earth?
Spiffy
12-24-2007, 02:13 PM
Interesting.
Although its not like the idea of Superman's craft crashing elsewhere has been totally ignored up till now. I refer you to "Superman: Red Son".
I'm not positive, but I have some vague memories that at least one or two other possible crash sites may have been explored in a story at some point over the many years of Superman comics. The idea of Clark being raised by the Waynes sounds particularly familiar, although I'm sure it was from some very obscure long ago issue. My expectation is that a true "alternate" story would have him AS the Wayne's only son though, not as one of two.
Froggy
12-24-2007, 02:25 PM
I know this doesnt go witht he thread exactly but what if JIMMY OLSEN was superman?
hear me out on this as I extrapolate........later
The Umberella Man
12-24-2007, 02:32 PM
Interesting.
Although its not like the idea of Superman's craft crashing elsewhere has been totally ignored up till now. I refer you to "Superman: Red Son".
I'm not positive, but I have some vague memories that at least one or two other possible crash sites may have been explored in a story at some point over the many years of Superman comics. The idea of Clark being raised by the Waynes sounds particularly familiar, although I'm sure it was from some very obscure long ago issue. My expectation is that a true "alternate" story would have him AS the Wayne's only son though, not as one of two.
Yeah, Red Son is great, a friend gave me that a few months ago. There is also a badly written one where he lands in England, but it was written under the assumption that everyone is dull, polite and loves tea.
Kirayoshi
12-25-2007, 01:18 AM
What if Superman had...
...landed in the Wayne's back yard? Imagine Batman and Superman fighting crime together from their youth, what a menacing duo! Beats Robin anyway. How would that change Batsy's and Supermans attitudes?
IIRC there was an Imaginary Story that covered that territory in the old Silver Age Superman titles. And of course there was the Elseworlds book "Speeding Bullets" in which Thomas and Martha Wayne didn't have any children when they discovered Kal-El's spaceship, resulting in Kal-El becoming Bruce Wayne and then Batman.
Kirayoshi
12-25-2007, 01:26 AM
Yeah, Red Son is great, a friend gave me that a few months ago. There is also a badly written one where he lands in England, but it was written under the assumption that everyone is dull, polite and loves tea.
That was True Brit, written by John Cleese(yes, that John Cleese) and Kim "Howard" Johnson, with art by John Byrne(some of his worst pencils ever). More a parody than a legitimate Elseworlds. I dunno, maybe Cleese's writing translates better to the screen than the page.
Zacharius
12-25-2007, 01:34 AM
resulting in Kal-El becoming Bruce Wayne and then Batman.
Then he becomes Superman anyway at the end, just because he met Lois Lane.
Considering that according to the story Act of God, Lois would dump Supes if he lost his powers. Damn gold-digger.
marshal99
12-25-2007, 05:38 AM
What if Superman had...
...landed in the Wayne's back yard?
That would be something like the speeding bullets elseworld.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superman:_Speeding_Bullets
Spiffy
12-25-2007, 07:23 AM
That would be something like the speeding bullets elseworld.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superman:_Speeding_Bullets
I KNEW it sounded familiar.
David Atkins
12-25-2007, 12:14 PM
I especially like the 'Superman lands in the Ocean, raised in Atlantis' option.
Here's one for you: Superman lands just outside Gotham in, say, the 1930s/1940s and is raised by the 'Godfather' of a Corleone-esque crime family.
Yeah, Batman. Clean up that town. :D
maczero
12-25-2007, 12:55 PM
What if Kal-El was raised by Rev Run? (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=202783)
Christopher Cross Is God
12-25-2007, 04:27 PM
Interesting.
Although its not like the idea of Superman's craft crashing elsewhere has been totally ignored up till now. I refer you to "Superman: Red Son".
I'm not positive, but I have some vague memories that at least one or two other possible crash sites may have been explored in a story at some point over the many years of Superman comics. The idea of Clark being raised by the Waynes sounds particularly familiar, although I'm sure it was from some very obscure long ago issue. My expectation is that a true "alternate" story would have him AS the Wayne's only son though, not as one of two.
There were some "what if" style stories in the Superman titles released back around 1999.
Superman #147 (Superman raised on Oa)
Adventures of Superman #570 (Superman raised on Rann)
Action Comics #757 (Superman raised on Thanagar)
Superman: The Man of Steel #92 (Superman raised on Mars)
There was also the Elseworlds series "The Nail", which had to do with Superman landing at the same spot on Earth as he was supposed to, but the Kents weren't in the area, so he didn't get found & raised by them.
Flash's Lightning
12-25-2007, 04:36 PM
Oooh, I vaguely remember a story with Supes being raised by Darkseid.
That makes me want to track it down again.
666MasterOfPuppets
12-26-2007, 06:39 AM
That's Superman: The Dark Side. I've heard it's pretty good, so I could track it down myself.
NotSuper
12-26-2007, 09:24 PM
The ship landing elsewhere was a good idea, but it's been done too much. I'd prefer seeing something different, like Superman coming to Earth as an ADULT (growing up in his ship with a VR simulated life, ala Power Girl).
666MasterOfPuppets
12-27-2007, 05:41 AM
Actually, that would be a good idea.
NotSuper
12-27-2007, 09:32 PM
Actually, that would be a good idea.
Thanks. It technically has been done before, but not in the comics. The Superman on the old radio show actually arrived on Earth as an adult and created the "Clark Kent" identity with help from Jimmy Olsen (who knew his secret).
Come to think of it, a world where Superman arrived as an adult might make a good parallel Earth in the new multiverse.
666MasterOfPuppets
12-28-2007, 05:43 AM
An interesting info that I didn't know. Thanx.
pariah-1972
12-29-2007, 03:24 PM
Has anyone read "last son on earth" where he crash landed on Krypton instead of earth?
haven't finished reading it yet but it has some amazing artwork.
marshal99
12-29-2007, 07:36 PM
What if Superman had...
...landed in the throne-room of the savage Amazons?
I posted this pic before but look out the world ! Here comes wonder woman man. :D
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e201/Clarkparker/wonderwomanMan.jpg
Slaughter
12-30-2007, 03:52 PM
I especially like the 'Superman lands in the Ocean, raised in Atlantis' option.
Here's one for you: Superman lands just outside Gotham in, say, the 1930s/1940s and is raised by the 'Godfather' of a Corleone-esque crime family.
Yeah, Batman. Clean up that town. :D
Porr Bats, when you think thugs, gangsters and the ocasional psycho are bad...
I've imagined something like that once: A tale where he's raised in a very violent neighborhood and eventually meddles with gangs and drugs in his teens. He eventually becomes some kind of Super-Gangster with the powers of a God and then the story truly begins...
spidervenom
12-30-2007, 05:01 PM
what if supes ship got sucked into a wormhole to the futuree and crashed into ambush bugs detective agency. Then he would be raised by ambush bug.
leothelion
01-08-2008, 07:54 PM
What if Superman landed next to Goku? Would it bring an end to Superman vs Goku matchs? Would he be considered a diffrent type of sayian.
comicola
01-10-2008, 06:02 PM
What if he landed in NYC and became a super stock broker! Oh wait, we have hedge fund managers already. My bad.
Slaughter
01-10-2008, 08:48 PM
What if Superman landed next to Goku? Would it bring an end to Superman vs Goku matchs? Would he be considered a diffrent type of sayian.
I think DBZ's seasons would be, like, 200% faster.
Khan Zor-El
01-11-2008, 01:20 AM
I like the idea not so much of "where" but "when". As in like 500 years ago in the empire of the Aztecs or even earlier like the Egyptian empire. He wouldn't be raised into a hero, but worshipped as a God, how would that play out? I know I've seen the Egyptian look before, like in a book that I read within the last few years, I just don't know which one. Batman and Wonder Woman were in it, it was a multiverse thing. Anyway, I'd like that idea along with serveral others that you guys posted.
reta-winter soldier
01-12-2008, 05:55 PM
mmm how about he landed in Mexico and later in life crossed the border? now that would be an illegal alien
Froggy
01-13-2008, 01:14 AM
Porr Bats, when you think thugs, gangsters and the ocasional psycho are bad...
I've imagined something like that once: A tale where he's raised in a very violent neighborhood and eventually meddles with gangs and drugs in his teens. He eventually becomes some kind of Super-Gangster with the powers of a God and then the story truly begins...
Tony MOntana as SUPERMAN?
scarface ends with Lex getting blowndafuggup
the justice league vs SUPERTHUG>>???
What if Superman landed next to Goku? Would it bring an end to Superman vs Goku matchs? Would he be considered a diffrent type of sayian.
DBZ would be a lot faster
a dbz esque superman would be interesting
I think DBZ's seasons would be, like, 200% faster.
500 percent faster
buu would show up in like, episode ten
marshal99
01-13-2008, 01:44 AM
I've imagined something like that once: A tale where he's raised in a very violent neighborhood and eventually meddles with gangs and drugs in his teens. He eventually becomes some kind of Super-Gangster with the powers of a God and then the story truly begins...
Then he'll be super-bully. A super crook complete with eye mask. :D
http://www.supermanartists.comics.org/superwhoswho/super-menace-Superman137.JPG
marshal99
01-13-2008, 01:45 AM
I've imagined something like that once: A tale where he's raised in a very violent neighborhood and eventually meddles with gangs and drugs in his teens. He eventually becomes some kind of Super-Gangster with the powers of a God and then the story truly begins...
Then he'll be super-bully. He'll grow up to become super menace and it's not an imaginary story. A super crook complete with eye mask. :D
http://www.supermanartists.comics.org/superwhoswho/super-menace-Superman137.JPG
saintsaucey
01-16-2008, 08:37 AM
Marvels Bullet points mini series did something like this where different heroes took different identities all because the scientist that created the captain america formula was killed before he administered it along with ben parker who was his guard.
Steve became Iron Man, Peter Became the hulk, reed became and agent of shield after the rocket carrying ben sue and johnny blew up i think banner became the silver spider.
I was wondering what wouls happen if dc did this who would it affect. I was thinking what if mr and mrs wayne survived and bruce was killed, they traveled to get over their grief and found kal el's shuttle. kal grows up to become batman to revenge his older brothers death. Thats as far as i got though.
chaplainandrews
01-16-2008, 02:14 PM
[QUOTE=Khan Zor-El;6139042]I like the idea not so much of "where" but "when". QUOTE]
I agree--there was (going off memory now) an issue that placed Superman in 2001 dated 1970's I can't remember the details write off, but it was an interesting take on what they thought would be different in 2001--like world peace.
But, what would happen if he arrived now?: Would we be as suprised? Or would anyone care? Would he be just another celebrity?
Flash's Lightning
01-16-2008, 03:13 PM
Then he'll be super-bully. He'll grow up to become super menace and it's not an imaginary story. A super crook complete with eye mask. :D [/IMG]
Oh, no! Super-bully don't touch the green rock!
...
Does he touch it? :eek:
LordEd1976
01-16-2008, 03:26 PM
...landed in the ocean and was found by the Atlantians? How would Superman act if he had spend his life under the rule of the magical Atlantis royalty, Aquaman himself? Would his powers be weakness by the lack of sunlight beneath the waves or would the pressure and constant swimming strengthen him?
Something like this was done in an old issue of Wizard. It was an article merging DC and Marvel characters together. Supes had his origin mixed with that of Sub-Mariner.
kent007
01-18-2008, 07:15 PM
Nice idea, But i m sure this would be happened never.I enjoyed reading your post.
Gadget3440
01-25-2008, 09:01 AM
There was a JLA elseworld's story a few back (seemed to focus more on the Supes character) called Shogun of Steel. It was set in feudal Japan where Supes crashlanded. He still had the humble beginings and all that, but he did use a sword. It was a pretty good read.
Micro
01-25-2008, 09:20 AM
I would think they have done this before, but has there ever been a "What if Krypton never exploded" and Superman grew up on his own homeworld?
I also think a "What if Superman landed in Ancient Rome" would be interesting.
marshal99
01-25-2008, 09:55 AM
I would think they have done this before, but has there ever been a "What if Krypton never exploded" and Superman grew up on his own homeworld?
I also think a "What if Superman landed in Ancient Rome" would be interesting.
What if Krypton never exploded was explored in the famous Alan Moore story "For the man who has everything" in Superman annual 11.
Not sure about superman landing in ancient rome but there was an old asterix homage in a pre-crisis issue where superman and Jimmy olsen ended up in ancient rome where there's a small gaul village with a magic potion keeping the romans at bay. Funny stuffs by Giffen.
Micro
01-25-2008, 12:29 PM
What if Krypton never exploded was explored in the famous Alan Moore story "For the man who has everything" in Superman annual 11.
I had always heard of that storyline before, but never knew what it was about. I just read a general summary of it, and it sounds a lot like the same concept they used in the Batman: the animated series episode, "Perchance to Dream." Interestly, this episode was appearitly based on an episode of the Twilight Zone by the same name. I wonder if Alan Moore partly based the idea of the same thing or if it is just a coincidence.
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